#📨・general-help
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is there even any point in rolling for reso on feral or echo?
should i change it into something else or is red orb fine?
Class skill
Doesnt matter, her orbs are locked
too bad you can't lend currency out, i'm stacked
lol i just realized my vera doesnt have any reso
@undone oxide
Wut

Shut up 
Bully

Are we really getting another discounted banner for the DMC update for older frames ?
Im also f2p newbie gimme some
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/20645345/characters is there any must pull in next patch rerun or just get vera/lucid sigs?
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Yes, but its not discounted
Pull everyone!!

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so its 100% chance for any previous frame up to Solacetune ?
up to lilith
even better
Oh no..
but fr ish seems kinda important but i dunno
I have 1k event currency💀
Just get Luna and hanying Ig
Class skill for lilith right?
The guin build? Yea
is it 1 time or you can pull multiple characters?
Ye ye ofc for zaza
u trolling or serious
multiple characters, infinite amount of times
I would never troll
Don’t trust Nergi

that answer makes me wonder even more
Oh wait u cant reso that on 5star mems😔
I pulled 3S Nanami Pulse bcs of your advice
Yea..
So no reso for those..
That was before I even met you 
aren't they bricked without sigs?
Everyone is 
is the green card thing for coating, only for A ranks characters?
It’s for coatings without vfx
vfx? oh the card that u need to use real money for?
my vera is never gonna get sig atp
Visual effects
VFX just means visual effect change.
Unfortunate time to start
but aren't mot of the chars in the shop that have free coating are bad?
Wut 
Personal preference really.
between 2 of them who is more prio
Who? Hanying and Luna?
y
like what?
Just her zaza teams in general
Soloish Lilith
Solo nanaknight
Solo wanshi
Thats what nerg said-
Yea
Man, I hate Lilith gameplay 
Her class converts elemental buffs/debuffs to make them universal
We all do 
Yeah no kidding increased my lightning by 1.5mil
Nana is genuinly fun to play im ngl
Nana goated af
I’m so glad lilick is getting knocked down to 2 ults after Walter
Real
Lilith in dark just feels like winging it
so her sig not needed for qte bot right?
Ok so i m curious. In a neutral enviroment does selena do more physical damage or more glacio damage?
No but it’s nice to have for nihil wz as well
do you know how many stacks for ult? or it just depends
I think it just depends, that’s mostly how she is rn 
so imma just get her
Glacio, affix generally have higher multipliers
my phys is cooked either way so time to get vera her sig
What buffs should I pick for Selena's CUB?
is the moonrise stage gonna return?
Last 2
Glaciation just does way more dmg its funny
How about Lilith's and Qu's?
She's way more of a glaciation unit than she's physical honestly
Usually it’s whatever’s unique to the characters and the element buff
I see, should be easy enough then
Is there a customer service email or something adjacent I can contact? Hoping this is the right place, sorry if not 🙇♀️
The amp buff doesn't stack if that's what you want to know.
ph
ngl pgr has the easiest character building i have ever seen
how exactly does the annihlator class work
Why is epitaph visiting me at 3am
nah reverse 1999 is the easiest i've seen tbh you just have to level up character to build them
Nah pgr easier than reverse
Her class converts elemental buffs/debuffs to make them universal
Not the case for phys
Reverse that dust is annoying
better him than lilith
What does core passive in selena build mean memory resonance?
so i can run like any tank and any amplifier
From what I remember getting pysche cubes were a pain in the ass.
how many bc does it cost for a stage?
I want Lilith to visit 
it means it putd an extra level
yeah its event psychubes or farm for 3 weeks😭
so it does more damage
Freaky
It’s extremely easy tho what lol
Getting them outside of events weren't.
i mean for the love's dawn and the moon event
What bout blue orbs?
in complexity i would say reverse 1999 is the easiest,in farming amount pgr 100%
is 1999 the card game or smt
doesnt do enough the core passive gives your dash attack more damage and her signature orbs more damage
Balatro
yeah kinda
With the most simple answer yes, however you can use 2-3 of same cards to buff other cards.
eh...
its like the ping system in pgr the more used the stronger the multiplier
can you ss vergil from ppc shop? from s
why is vera used with startrail i thought the shred stuff didnt stack
can i use orange card to pull vergil or only black card
bc only
you cant even get S vergil, pulling him once gets him immediately to SS
how tf
buy one get one free for DMC characters
wasn't that dante
ya
anything to grab from anniversary banner?
Guys should i pull for vera or save up for DMC?
how exactly does entropic distortion work? I thought I was doing well using my nihil team, yet at the end I scored only 1.8m
vera is better for your account than DMC characters
am I supposed to be doing the affix portion of it
Does anyone have Geiravor 9s rotation?
What does upper, lowerz hypertune mean
don't reso through that menu
its just how you have two hypertunes and each one can guve you a skill up of a certain stat
it doesnt let you use simulation score
dmc is a single patch right?
yes
So last one is combination of both
But why gove separately then?
and bianca patch next month?
So how to do it
Is this worth it? Or should i try to get vera instead?
this is permanent vera is not
ya, on september 19
Got it tyty
click on your memory here
then click one of the resonance slots
yours should be empty
where it go i can't find it
Is the gacha pull history permanent or will they fall off over time?
So always use memories?
Hypertune there does?
Its locked says its get u locked when resonance is set
ya, always use that blue currency from simulation shop for resonating
hypertune increases base stats of the memory, can only do it after you fully resonate the memory
when you hypertune, start with the bottom 3 memories because those are the ones that have ATK stats
What does it do
In memory section it shows memories to set
I buy memory first using blue coins n then set it?
Who do I build next?https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters
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you buy the initial memory first from simulation shop, then use the blue currency to resonate it
it'll give you a random resonance
and you can keep going until you get the resonance you want, but you're dirt poor on the blue currency so just stick with what you get for now lol
Is this good setup?
Oh so even if i use memory it will give me rng resonance n decide to set it or not
Right?
yes
Too much gambling
sigless goes 2 eins instead of heisen
Yah im low on coins i exchanged memories few hrs ago
Mine T on her as well xD
Does this do anything? Like am I gonna get a loading screen if I complete this?
you just want to get 12 resonances on your memories so you can ultima awaken your characters, doesn't matter if it's perfect
just a collectible that you can put on your collection wall, nothing else special
Whats ultima awaken
Wait really?😭😭
extra 3 starting orbs on your character
Eins better than heison?😭
Always get 3 extra orb while attacking?
Ah, the game never tells if i got a loading screen so i was guessing
Are u using eins too?
No
fym no 🔥
@inner hull
or 5 star 💀💀💀
Ohhh so thats correct?
Checked from guide n tutorial
Yes
But i need her wep 🥹
Then why someone saying eins better😔
I only get 5 star😭
My advice giver said that is enough to make her op
farel i will beat you up

Which one
i have to go for a bit
farel, piss off and actually contribute to the guild
❤️
This?
AHH YES THAT
i forgor to do half the stages last time 
The black spike was diff wep mbmb
U exchanged or pulled?
Its easy to exchange
Should have waited
Now u can't get wep for selena or vera once u get em
Uhave to wait for awhile
aint no way ppl here have guild
fr guilds suck
just leave it
Im not even sure if I can get it or not TvT
I just joined one xD
R u on asia?
U can atleast get one
Its easy
U got the freebies
Just farm
Im at 30/60 rn
60?
69!!1!
Yes
guys 69
My vera is 69
laugh pls
no
btw eu or na cause I need cogs
eu 
in the rush of button mashing I accidentally trigger darkflow instead of fire Vera
Who tf thought affix on hold ultimate was a good idea
you press the button 0.5s too long and suddenly vera deals no dmg
Pretty much 
me when i accidentally hold ult on luna oblivion and ruin my WZ run
Go ahead eat it
Eat not drink
Overeating

Is there a way to see the most optimal 5* weapon for each character on grayravens.com?
Each character has their 5* weapon
Its easy to get, you get weapon shards from dailies and recycle them
Who should I build next? Should I go for Selena rn? https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters
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Also, I hear stuff about "coop" for resources, does that mean I should be playing coop somewhere to get resources?
coop got axed
Ita dailies instead of coop now
Okay, thank you
Spend 300 stamina and you get the shards
i mean you should get selena, but considering dmc in 2 days, better save up
unless you're skipping dmc
I couldn't care less about the dmc collab
then get selena
Alright. In the meantime who should I be building?
So.. the only way to get free 6* weapons is to spend those blue tickets on a non-targeted weapon banner and recycle them to buy the 6*?
free
spend
since I read that as a f2p, you're not supposed to spend the gold black cards to pull 6*
if I only have 1 weapon usb, should I use it in lilith or save it for future characters
Yes.
Spending black cards on it?
Lilith is fine getting a resonance.
Yes if you aren't saving it for DMC.
Eh, I've been told that DMC will not be meta
and I enjoy playing the meta/BiS
I'm f2p but I wanna work towards getting some strong teams
They are in their affix but outside of that, they are ok.
they are meta, but only for ultima slash and ignition content
niche*
actually 🤓 they are meta
Who else does Ignition
just nana lol
Vergil is bigger than the others, does that mean anything
I have just found out that Refulgence is a thing
We are dying with all these afix teams, lol
more like the names
what
glow refulgence
Does it mean that Dante is the stronger pick out of the bunch
crepescule
literally read the note next to it
I see but I just knew the first 5 ones ;-;
I need help finding something there was a guide window and it had all of these event and rewards and I cant rememeb where it is
ye thats dante not vergi
Nope, its just the way its been listed.
Oh ok
Do you mean this?
turn on fullscreen 
but not the R&D
thunder manual in top left
Oooh...
Was it Thunderbolt?
Or was it in Event?
I know what you say but I don't remember the place
its like there was a S selector i think
I haven't been lucky up until this moment.. I just got the weapon on my first 10, what should I do with the other two golds? Who's the arm for?
this?
YES
Should I recycle the sword since it's for Pyroath as well?
I forgot whee it is
Vro I dont have qu because I got wata, I dont have wanshi or kaleido because I been playing for a week and they take up time to get
click Event button in your lobby and scroll to Thunderbolt Manual
top left thunder manual
thnkx
farel gimme ur huaxu I need cogs
The first one is Pyroath's and the other one is Noctis'. If you don't want to give it to them, you can use it to resonance other 5* weapons
it's permanent
so its like for new player?
no, it was free for everyone
Use it? How do I use them to get other 5*s? Could you show me?
just get startrail
so starrail just that good?
yes
startrail is basically almost every element's go to tank
It's one of the best 
If you have another character with a 5*
Go to their profile in "Members" and click on their weapon
Then:
What's this 66% discount? Is it for the first 10 shards?
ya, 10 for first 10, then 20 for the next 20
first 10 shards then its -33%
Click on those things in which says "resonance" and put the weapons in it
Be careful and choose wisely DX
Okay, thank you 
Not my point
You will need 500 pain cage skulls to fully buy a characters shards, The discount reduces after the first 10 shards.
Is there a chart to show how many skulls are needed for each interval?
100 then 400
How much for SS rank?
500
500
so you expect me to get kaleido and wanshi within the first week of playing
dorm commissions dont give you that much
i dont think that's possible
it does later on, but not at first
skill issue
Damn.. I should be more careful with spending these then.. is it usually main dps > sub dps for priority?
yeah it gives me 10k+ I think cus I got the purples now
or does it depend on what the SS actually offers
- im not even in a high wz it doesnt matter
Should i get 6* weapon resonance shard? Or hyper tune crystal ?
none
No, i expect u not to spread misinfo about pulling dmc
neither, character shards only
Neither, these are very limited for F2P so character shards only.
I mean on this one
Usually yes, but have in mind that it's better to use skulls with the most newest characters
bro, you arent “bricking” your account if you pull dmc tho
you can still get to hero and pull dmc
the issue is that people take it out of proportion

Clue
Uve been playing for a week
What if i dont have the character? Should i still buy cards?
People here talk about "bricking" your account too freely
But if you make a mistake now, you can easily "recover" your account in months (most of the time)
You are tho as f2p for a while
Then what about Geiravor? I've built the fire team with Pyroath, which one should I consider if I were to actually spend skulls?
You can wait until you get the characters
wata u will get eventually, wanshi and lilith ss3 are prio
who said I was f2p
You can get all of these for free outside of Watanabe right now - Wanshi, Ayla and Alisa are in the dorm shop and Lilith is free from the insatiable research event.
for lilith u need to just buy 7 shards with vouchers and rest with skulls
just remember that dmc is the reason why majority of people are playing anyways
Not abt u but abt u advising others to pull dmc as f2p💀
Its not advised
What other characters have you got? DX
yes exactly, but it takes time to build your account with all the needed chars. the issue is that you never have the option to pull any of those chars unless another selector comes up or a banner where you can guarantee a character
i didnt say that, I said that dmc wont fully brick your account
Is there an easy way to show you? This is all I have
which is what many people say in this chat
Where do i get hypertune easily?
guild and dorm are the biggest sources
Clash reflection, Norman, Dorm and Guild.
I dont have guild😭
Yes, I mean... I recommend every player to stick to meta teams and all that (or wait until they get replaced)
But if you make a bad choice, is not that you have to throw your account away. You probably will be okay with time
Who's on asia here lemme join ur guild pls😔
use this https://huaxu.app/ when asking about account help
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I'd advise getting into an active one, they will really help your account. They aren't very social though so that's a bonus? xD
Does monthly pass b and c stack?
No, you can only have monthly A or C.
How do i know if its active or not tho?
thing is tho right now people act like you can just go and get all the meta chars but it isnt even possible. you only have 1 banner selector, thunderbolt selector, if you started this patch you have blissful gift to get wata or qu, guaranteed vera/selena, then what else?
You can check the guild itself to see how many people have been active and there should be total weekly activity number on the guild itself.
how about that guy who pulled cw from base banner
- getting vergil + dante isnt a total mistake, they are literally part of the meta, just not the highest priority tho
do u think his account would be in good shape
Geiravor, Lilith, Lucia, CW and Luna are your best characters...
Which one have you got built?
(You could sent your huaxu link like someone said)
thats what I was also tryna say, that there could be even worse mistakes
where startrail
Yes ;-;
I get that because when I started the game it took me almost two years to get every meta character
or guy who skipped every gen 3 unit for dmc
Didn't pull for her
Oh my 💀
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why
I hope they like Vergil and Dante way too much because... XDD
I heard she's "good" but I haven't looked into building proper teams and I haven't spent any black cards until today
there are ways to omega brick ur account
poor decisions they could easily pull dmc and pull all gen 3
are u planning to get selena
No
like pulling for dmc
so u plan to brick lightning, plasma and glacio?
Should I? I don't wanna overcommit to too many characters, I don't even know what I'm doing
I don't even know anything about elements other than you want to pair them together, why do you need a team for every element?
the thing is they expected me to have wanshi and kaleido within the first week of me playing
skipping characters is bad idea, but in the end u do u, just don't throw a fit when u can't clear norman or smth 
Well... then, yes. If I were you I would SS Lucia or Geiravor using skulls
Maybe Lucia because you have her sign?
wanshi should be first character u spend dorm currency for
I don't think people expect that, they just offer advice on saying just get Wanshi first ect.
and i still dont have him
Yeah, I just pulled her and her sig just now, but do I need the dupes? Is it possible to clear all content for rewards with zero dupes?
someone did because I dont have the chars for ice wz in my tier rn
u can get ss0 for free with skulls
You can get free character dupes or SS0 on phantom pain cage using PPC skulls
It's "possible" to clear it even with A characters...
Idk, if you are new in the game it's better if you just focus on getting more characters than doing that
Yeah, I'll be using skulls, but I'm just asking if it's for more comfort, or is SS a requirement to clear harder content and not just for score chasing?
but SS characters change everything lol
Okay, I'll just save the skulls for when I need it then
show me vid clearing norman with only a ranks

That's another thing... 
You can't clear norman or clash
Anyway, have in mind that the better you perform, the more rewards you get
So at least having an SS character will be good for now XD
They are clearly misguided, you DON'T have to do have these characters right now just as long as you work towards them, they will benefit your account, meta or not.
i mean maybe be a bit realistic tho, you probably have s rank chars if you are doing norman
How far does that go? Is there a cutoff?
Like on s0 a units could even a raw fish (90% of chara like that)or just less dmg
(When i said less dmg i not saing incomperable dmg)

There is one but... only whales/doplhins/really good players can get everything XD
Interesting
Not to mention veterans
Epitaph for the fire team, what weapon should I use on him?
Personally i think
If u had the base kit and
Ss0 sig cub
U could get very far
rocket launcher
What is that
i was joking
its just their 5* weapon if you dont have their 6*
Can I just leave the 4* weapon on him or is that gonna brick my team
Signiture if u able to affort
But 5* of u cant
Okay, I'll buy the 5* weapon then
5* is enough but ofc his 6* is better.
Yup
no pre download for next update ?
I'll have to learn two teams when I have the time, hopefully they're not too difficult to learn
It's still 2 days away,
can you get 8k bp normally?
nah thats whale bp
cthulhu
only maxed out at SSS+ rank
7600 it's the max I've ever seen without whaling...
Just not start minmaxing
mine is 7803
so in theory, it is possible to get norman perfect without electricity 

I hate norman
All my homies hate norman
i love norman
Hey I was thinking about purchasing and leveling memories for Vergil and Dante early so that I can play them right away, does anyone know what the meta build for them is? Or is there not one established yet?
easiest "endgame" mode
free bbc
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.
4x Patton
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature
Cottie
But the last Norman stage is almost impossible for me ;-;
clash is easier
You mean bc not BBC @lime oriole
i wont admit that as long as it has vonnegut
I love BBC (bountiful black cards)
nugget is easy squishy
not when you dont have nihil team
What's that BBC is it something dirty
@cerulean anvil thank you!
no it just means bountiful black cards 
yuo're welcome
lilith is nihil?
Idk why 1shoted clash is very good to do

no, she's dark wdym
She's in the team because there's only two nihil characters
bro selena cub is mad broken holy hell
how broken
mad
Just 40% atk wdym
40% more damage is broken
Yeah the dmg diff is noticable
btw why do certain resonances give more bp than others?
Mire wierd
My frend luna is 8162
But theres a ppl luna whuch same build same reso even wep reso
But that luna is 8163 bp
maybe its memory placement?
No
same build i mean same placement
uh
my selena and my shukra are at the exact same invest, yet my shukra has 10 more bp than my selena
probably 1 is like ss0 and the other ss1
nah, evolution gives more bp than that
8162 bp is sss+ r3
a
how do you guys get so many whel friends
whel minds think alike
connections
mentors to lovers!?
Bruh im not a gay

Who is a rich man in asia here that has a lot of sss+
( I need to borrow chars for norman 💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏)
you dont need 4s for norman lol but gl finding a loan shark
who is a rich man in asia that can just give me their account
would be found in #📨・meta-help
But not need s+ for norman
I might need it for an experiment later
just borrowing it, huh? 
Should we finish this week's warzone and ppc before dmc collab hits? Or should we do it after the update?
doesnt matter tbh
I just need help here
cw with higher invest than nanami 💔
I just got back ok
Invest?
And sadly im in eu
So icant lend u 3s nanami
I'm currently pulling for nana weap rn
put 200 elec on light team
Do I need to do it all again?
No
Who should I build next?
WATA
wata then echo
wata will be in voucher shop in 2 patches also so remember to save those
Does each battle u fight in cursed waves increase the amount of xp u get at the end?
So after finally not need to use nanami in fire
you're supposed to get to the end so yeah
Alright. This is my whole roster btw https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters
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Basicaly no
Max the ending give u sone extra
What's the point of giving gifts to characters? Do you get anything from it?
Ok
a few achievements but nothing major iirc
So basically just for fun
unique dorm furniture
get wanshi ss first then
they get more yap lines
and you feel good
and nana also, they carry their respective teams
That's like third on my priority list(nanami,vera,wanshi)
yeah that's pretty much it
Should I spend black cards on the Thunderbolt Research?
Would Startrail actually save my account
idk what your account is but the answer is yes 
wait, did you not spend your blue ticket selector?
I'm basically a new player
Hmm? What's that
the basic banner
there's supposed to be an s rank selector there, goes up to nanami
if you didnt get it yet you're better off getting her from there
Hmmm..
When you go into base banner and member target, there should be a box which lets you select an S rank and an A rank.
I'll relaunch the game and take a look
it will show on the right of the screen.
Ahh so you've used it.
This is how it looks like, I picked up Pyroath just now on this banner
Yeah
was it a mistake
Have you done the thunderbolt selector?
as long as u get nanami other way u are good
What is thunderbolt selector
Go into events and scroll down to thunderbolt manual, there will be thunderbolt research in there.
You can get a selector up to Nanami in there.
honestly yeah, but if you were planning to get thunderbolt it doesnt really matter
Oh, that's the one I'm asking about
wutda
As long as you get her from there eventually, you will be fine.
kianegut
I haven't done it at all, how much does it cost?
It will just take some time and 15k bc or yellow tickets.
7k-15k depends how omega carried u are
You can get lucky, we always just say the max amount because pulls % are quite low on here.
Alright
Is getting crimson weave in cursed waves rarer than other characters or no
next patch would it be better to get nanami already from the thunderbolt research or get pyro from the anni banner? i dont think i can get both cuz i also wanna get vergil and bianca, rn i have +15k bc and mpa+7 days bloon+monthly bc supplies, and my characters r vera selena wata solacetune echo daemonissa
i dont think so
thunderbolt is permanent so do anni first
Thanks
k
get nanami from anni
actually it may be better to get nanami from anni
you can have a fire team without pyroath, but a light team without nanami is bricked
i havent thought about this
at least i have like 1.5k left from cursed waves
I got it before the pity
do you have solacetune or nah
nope
she's needed for vergil's team 
she's on thunderbolt tho so you can always get her later
how do i get clash of wills achievmentin the bridget story boss fight
i spent a little ill be fine
thank you what website is this
can i get the low battery background on pc?
maybe if you're on a laptop idk
cant even imagine playing ts on a laptop
i love you
was forced to play wuwa and pgr on laptop till i got a desktop
am I missing somethig or Gwynplaine just has a ton of hp?
this mfer takes forever to kill
ya, he's tanky as hell, 30 mil hp on hell
well, at least the ice boss is easy
yeah, and my dark team is just Lilth and Jetavie
, paitiently waiting for Bianca
cradle last week was also tanky
same tier/batch of boss hp?
you can see the exact numbers of boss HP with the /exppc command
can i use nanaknight in plasma shred instead of scire
the comp is pyrooath/lilith
ya, you're supposed to use nanaknight instead of scire
oh ok thx
youre supposed to use nanakknight
scire dead as hell
chat how do I not suck as bad there's a couple scary people who haven't done it yet I don't wanna get demoted aaaaa
i don't think youre getting demoted anyway, you have demotion protection
ok true but
but doesn't feel good to be in demotion zone
what u used for lightning
Mald
so only lilith will stack plasma?
ss0 r1 nanaknight with cw and feral rocking support mems
damn I play on iPhone
now fix your mistake and do nana luna and lilith
Also what is equilibrium field
that's all you need
🙄 fine
time for zaza
it's the purple hp bar on enemies that you use nihil damage to shred faster
luna: 4dv 2 gloria 2 ein
lilith: 4sam 4 guin
Ohhhh
I thought that was just a shield 😭
qte timing: right before slam
yes
I did this like u said
lilith too?
yes
both luna and lilith are r0 so ig I'm missing out on reso bonuses but
I ain't spending allat
luna reso wouldnt give u anything
ice making me want to end myself
no sig luli
will this be gone on dmc collab
poor lucid
no
ok ty
What should I use my 26 energy refill things on
you mean serum bundles?
sim battlefield
ye probably unless you wanna save some to do some story
Aight
Spend all serum on battlefield while it's still 3x effective
How big is the update? (Pc)
so do we not get access to vera OST as a menu ost option?

I guess a 9 minute ost is too long for them to add to main menu : (
It’s 9 minutes?!
the official soundtrack posted by VSS is 8:40
the pianissimmo one is only 4 minutes
this is one of the longer ones since moonlit occultation for luna iirc
actually nanaknight's was 7:40 and they still added it, so was teddy's "In my memory"
Or it could just be a bit before they add it yet
Idk how quickly they add songs to the main menu
is it worth doing resonations on 5 star weapons for characters if I dont intend to pull their weapons (esp for ones that dont require them)? how big of a difference is it (ex. like startrail or something)
feel like it's probably not bad tbh bc there's no other us for extra 5 star weapons you get anyways
if you've got the spare shards why not
it's a decent attack bonus
most funny thing is watching your friend who hates Lilith so much that they are trying to beat primal projection with Jetavie

Damn that's a rough time for them.
getting a decent score is hard enough with lilith how tf are they scorin with jetavie
Lasted 4min28s but they finished it 
alr
also another question, is there a specific character I should try to get from teh 100% rerun banner next patch? I have startrail and watanabe from the selectors, not sure who to go for from the rerun now though, I could get pyroath maybe to finish fire team or is oblivion an option?
SSS+ liv
the world is healing
2 selena enjoyers and 1 skipper
I have enough trade vouchers to SSS Lilith from SS3 but with Wata coming in the shop, will I get enough trade vouchers to SSS him too?
brooo 
doesnt matter, as long as he's active

read like a book
None of mine are active 🥲. Also, do we know the size of the update?
i hope it's smol
Can I use black cards to get the last 10 pull to get Lilith or wait 11 days for a free 10 pull
No you can't use bc
update tomorrow?
Other than serum, what other resources/currency should I use before the patch is over?
I am the storm
should i go for vergil if i have selena already?
I need more power
Do u care for dmc characters or are they just kinda cool?

Where's your motivation?
Unless u LOVE them, id skip
DMC cool but expensive 
Ss3+sig is the stopping point for f2p no?
Or SS/sig/cub?
Then they'll gonna be replaced by a cute girl in 3+ patches
❤️
kinda cool
vergil looks like aura farmer
Does the dmc collab rerun after? Like do they rerun banners? Or will he go in the pool of existing characters with a chance to be pulled on existing banners?
ngl man as long as I can maintain hero I do not care at all
they will be GONE
never obtainable again
We can't say about a rerun but when the collab ends, they are gone.
i think gone forever
like nier and black rock
Are they in the pool?
No.
Has there ever been reruns of collabs?
Nier had 1 a few years ago.
whats epitaph ice tank build
Wata is Fire tank.
Stopping point is end of this patch...
disappear

Pretty sure it'll rerun seeing how popular dmc is
Should I get Nanami and Lucia to SS3 first then Wanshi to SS or vice versa https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters
Explore the 23 characters of xdsagecat from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Because STORM
how much for sss+ vergil and dante
can't you just voucher wanshi y is he included
I was told 100k each
hell nah 💀
time to swipe bby

or just skip 🙂
Granted that is SSS+ cub, you could lose a few cubs to lower the cost but yeah still expensive and SSS+ is just damage.
sss+ vergil better than sss selena?
If I had been playing nonstop, and knew dmc was coming, I'd have saved a lot more
When do they rotate out?
they don't rotate the quantity you can buy just refreshes
But who could have anticipated such a thing?!
i skip for mommy
in trueslash yes otherwise prob no lmao
The last character I pulled on was the geno like guy
in fact definitely no
Didn't even pulled him
so only for cosmetic
No, the shop itself refreshes the discount every month. They stay in there.
and hero/legend wz
I need more power
doesn't selena do that
Should I go for daemonissa SS3 or Wanshi SS first? dae is at SS rn
hero/legend has affix content which selena is glaciation not trueslash
wanshi SS
SS Wanshi then SS3 Wanshi first.
oh ok
Alright
what memory set does qu use for wz
4x Ji boan 2x chen jiyuan.
and 2 chen harmo
Gonna finish the rest of these tomorrow just did 10 of them 9 left to go
Or Darwin, doesn't really matter.
better be 580k'ing them 🙂
see 4pc 4pc looks nicer thooo
STORM
someone send that you didn't pull his teammates and now he has no power meme
What form of power is this?
Eh I'll go back to them once my characters are stronger
I hate you musashi
is not that hard
you should be able to nuke the early ones

if you can't what are you doing in ultimate ppc 🤣
2k bc enough for 1 vergil?
cant nuke musashi
if you spend every last bc from the dmc patch yes
10.5k for 1 (technically 2) copy
to hit pity on either Brother is 10,500, DMC patch gives roughly 11k so you should be fine.
and what like 11k from the patch
can i get early
yes but don't count on it
Sure but we don't assume that on PGR since the rates are low.
Yeah I probably could, just to lazy to try again. I haven't even learned rotations yet

learn them
that's like 25 skulls per outlier boss ur missing
adds up FAST
How much BC for Dante and Vergil with their all 6 star weapons
75 in total for 580k on each boss.
there should be nero too in collab
If he was, I would SSS+ but nah.
I was talking specifically the 580k goal since that's the one he was missing
or the lady
Lol I'm going to go back to them,just after I do the other ones and use the skulls from them
No way id leave those free skulls behind lmao
fair ig
just means wayyyy more effort
One copy of Dante or Vergil cost 10,500 and one wep IF you win the 80/20 is 7500. So if you get lucky, its 18k BC per brother and wep.
It means memories which you equip onto your character.
I think it would be less. The skulls from 9 sub 580k are still a lot
wouldn't weapons count too'
Sure I think so.
i only have 9 lvl 45 memories tho
It's not like I haven't gotten past 580 too, just showed the ones I didn't
ok but that still means going back to each hell stage and maybe the chaos ones too on all the bosses you've done
oh so both work then?
would sound like it
Is 23k BC enough for weapons and both character at SS
Unfortunately no, you'd need 36k not including their cub ofc.
not unless you get insanely lucky
How bad they will be without their cub
not bad
Please do note that's 36k IF you win the 80/20 on the weapons, it could be even more if you lose.
cubs really aren't necessary they're extra / unlock more of their dmc5 moves
What about without both cub and weapon
I heard that vergil will not really affected by his cub, but dante really need it
couldn't tell ya about sigless 🤷♂️
Dunno, i plan to skip them anyway

Is Wata getting added to the voucher shop? I saw someone say this somewhere
it was at the discord patch if happening at all
in which case still like 3 patches away kek
Yes he is during the Discord patch which is after Bianca.
Ah alright
wait are there different outliers for ultimate ppc and the easier one?
outlier only exists for ultimate ppc
ah fair enough
which construct shoul i pull in the beginner banner?
Nanami Startrail.
blue card selector? nanaknight
aka startrail
Oh thanks
Any A ranks you recomend? i played with Bambinata and loved her playstile but i accept some tips
A lot of people will recommend No.21 XXI, she's a dark A rank tank who will want SSS.
ngl should I get selena? I was planning on building an ultima slash team for vergil but they share teammates
selena is wife you must pull her
eh
If you can afford Selena and Vergil why not, she is the meta Phys and Glacio dps.
i got like 39k bc rn
Thanks!
do it
wrong reply?
alright why not, was contemplating getting her anyway
is this the proper position
how much is pity again?
Thanks!
15k
kk thats fine then
15k for Selena and 10,500 for Vergil.
I think nanaknight should be on yellow
does she need her sig?
cause she can ping red/blues but yellow is her form change
She doesn't NEED it but its heavily advised if you can.
lets say we compare it to pyroath's want for her sig
Nanami cannot ping yellow so put her there.
how much does she want it in comparison
slightly less important than pyroath's I think you can still rot without it
It pretty much doesn't matter tho, nanami will go solo anyways
ok but slightly more efficient qtes...
S5 pretty much has built in qte for new chara
CW is a qte bot also why is she leader
Selena is prob #2 after Pyroath, she REALLY would like her wep but she can still function with 5*
When they do core and ult, so it's fine
another one fell for the cw bait
might just shill for her in that case
Nanamid solo and leader feral and alphawho are just for qte
nanabricki with tsubricki and feral
Tsubricki
all 3 nasty stinky
you die

I die between Ish and/or Hanyings arms
hanying mid as hell
ishy is peak tho
alr cool got both and also startrail's sig
rage bait hanying also peak
15k bc down but thats just whatever
beacause i like her
i refuse to play nana solo
ok but ur lightning scores are gonna be 🧱
well I can’t force you just use
ok
the cradle that is approaching...
Oh nice, enjoy em. Nanami gonna show you how broken she really is now.
lightning sucks anyways 2/3 stinky characters and the non stinky is on the bench
how good is nanamis sig anyway
can’t wait for new lightning attacker
Bro
It's pretty good but it's not a HIGH priority cause she functions pretty much the same with or without it, just damage output.
another quick question, how good is solacetune's sig?
okay thanks
very important to her
😔
such is the way of pgr
by the end of this im gonna have no bc left
you can get all the chars but they require triple the investment to hit peak performance
I havent even started investing into solace cuz of hypertuning
how is that a problem just hypertune mems 4-6
