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28603822 this is it
Get Nanami Startrail then
she carries
Startrail
i wanted to ask for hypercarry do i do basic to get overload stacks or do basic hold on nanami ?
oh so i dont go to 300?
i see thank you
The slam makes it go to 300
really?oh lol ive been playing her unoptimally then😭
is this charecter good and should i prio this?
Basic till 195 uppercut
then Hold to 300 stack slam
Nah, she's outdated
get it but nanami carries her
she looks cool
alr bet thank you
But get her, she's a good DV holder
im 21/40 on that banner right now also fur the 4 star who should i choose
Mega outdated yet meta at insanely high rank
Get her from the free, don't invest
21 XXI
already have
SSS?
no A rank
A ranks are pretty useless overall they arent used
If you get enough dupes, you can rank up her to SSS
Then she becomes 2nd best dark tank
Downloaded game few hrs ago
What banner to go for
Whats pity in this game for wep n unit
Don't get excited though, its because current best dark tank sucks
To the point of an A-rank being a viable alternative
isnt ishmael second best dark tank?(ik she isnt really dark shes universal)
Ishmael isn't a dark tank per se
I'd use Bianca ishmael Lilith
same daren is too outdated and needs to much investment
Doesn't look like the rookie got Ishmael though
So 21 XXI being SSS is a solid investment for them
ig but they dont even have a dark dps so its like maybe if they get a dark dps in the near future
Lilith is free, they'll unlock her soon
Can someone help me with this
actually yeah isnt she like really good as a dps?
I heard evt ends in 4days unfortunately
She is the dark DPS and amp 
Until walter
Which is in a month, and I'm damn sure Kuro'll put a dark ppc all the 6 weeks until there 
2 more weeks of dark then plasma
is there a single channel/material source about this game that uses only 1x copy of the banner unit as a baseline in teams? like no sigs, cubs or resonances
I mean its so normal to find in other gachas "c0r0" teams but in pgr it feels lowkey impossible
Ss0 r1 is baseline
no the game requires atleast ss for everyone but your luck is ss is free it just takes time to farm
welp gg then
And ss0 is free for every unit, because ppc
plus sig isnt mandatory always some characters are okay with 5 star weapons
it is but it takes too much time... like its weeks and weeks to get 500x skulls
well, worse than I thought then lol
isnt it 100 for the first 10 and then 600 for the next 20?
10x10 + 20x20
oh its only 20 i thought its 30 mb
Outlier bosses give you enough to SS two characters in one go
but like dont u need 5x teams at least? only talking about base elements
somewhat around 15 units
oh wow and how do you get those?
yea but like u will eventually bottleneck in skulls, right? or am I crazy
im a new players so idk how to get those
Level up 80, score 1m in advanced, join ultimate and u are free to do outliner
Get to ultimate pain cage (unlocks at account lvl 80 iirc)
can i do that in 1 go or do i need to do 1m in advanced and then wait a week for the reset?
but like lets say skulls isnt the problem, shouldnt the baseline be SS0 R0 then?
Lvl 80, if u do it mid week u wait for reset for advanced, score 1m then wait for next reset
some sig are required to play the characters
some characters just dont work without sig or they are just awful to use
oh well
Attackers in general need their weapons to be even playable
and then you need dlt
woudlnt mind just doing small numbers, but character usage/kit locked behind sig is kinda braindead ngl
But whether its worth it or not, you need to gauge how old it is in comparison to other teamates
well it is what it is the game give a lot of rewards anyways
Gen 2 attacker weapons usually aren't worth because gen 3 amps or tanks perform better than them
oh okay thank you then ig in 2 weeks i can get my nanami ishmael luna and hanying to ss
not yet but today i can get both to ss
You better than me
Nice, im gathering skulls for walter now
I stand pyroless
this is my roaster after selena and pyro who would be good to get to ss first(ik the baseline is ss but i gotta know for who to get it first)
Ss Cw 🧱
i pulled her on release 😭 ik shes ass now so i wont invest in her anymore
will the collab cubs be part of the cub banner? or will it have a seperate event cub banner?
separate
So im fairly new to the game and im trying to figure out a good healer unit
but like I just managed to get base S rank nanami startrail (cant get her to SS cause lack skulls) and my team would be cw (ss + free sig/cub from event), feral (ss) and her
like do I play solo startrail even she being base S, swap beteween her and CW, idk the team rotation is very confused based on investment
On SS without sig she already can solo as long as it's not a long battle
CW becomes a QTE bot in this case
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wtf is this crypto guy saying
I suppose early content she can clear nice
but like base S she already is taking full field time?
I suppose?
or I play swapping her and cw
If she doesnt get enough orbs then swap
hmm k, ty
So im trying to figure out what are good healer units as a rookie that already has gotten some time in the game
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?gid=0#gid=0
basically whoevers the meta amplifier
How much i need for dante and vergil SS full + cub?
Around 46k bc iirc
is ss0 r1 hanying useable with selena? or do i need more investment
Yeah i hardly get any of these charts or elemental statuses
Nah, you good fam
Hanying Solacetune is her meta tank.
Im pretty new so im still in unga bunga mode a bit
yeah but i heard shes pretty ass without ss3 lol
No lol...
She gets a good SS3 upgrade, but SS is enough
SS is enough for EVERYONE.
what should i buy here (new player btw)
even ultima slash?Another complaint i heard is she doesnt generate enough
that is for ultima with bianca
but with vergil ss0 han fine
depends on who you have
You buy memories for characters you own, so who do you own so we can help.
but get nanami's signiture set
So Feral is able to heal teammates when attacking? Or how does she work
you don't have to spare those coins until you need anything from there
Cottie always good to have in hand there 
She heals with QTE
i saw they only have luminance and thats it and are getting nanami from standard
this is the charecter i plan on getting
she heals herself when attacking with purple mark filled after 3 ping orbs and holding attack
nice
Herself. What about her allies?
qte
1 3 einstein and 2 4 5 6 herschell
Thats also another concept i dont get. What are QTEs exactly?
How do i trigger them
when you ping 3 orbs of the same color you activate the qte of the character in that colored(the same as the 3 you just pinged) spot
when you play another character and ping 3 orbs or 1 orb after a perfect dodge, you can push q or e buttons to get support skills from characters that are now on standby
they flash at the time when available
that was her qte
when in her icon shine
when u press her she done her qte move instead swap to her
If that's the case you can buy 4xHerschell and 2 einsteina - If you end up getting her weapon, you want 4x Herschell and 2 Heisens.
this is feral qte skill
oooh is this shop to buy the gearing system in this game?
Yes
Pretty much everything your character needs, that shop has.
Once you 3-ping the color corresponding to her team slot or do a core skill if you have S5 or more, her icon will glow, tapping that glow triggers her QTE
So for her QTE to activate i put her on my blue slot then while using someone else i do a blue 3ping then press her portrait?
does it matter which one i buy?
also qte is one of the important things when you choose what colour your main character will take in battle roster
for example pianissimo can't trigger blue qte good, so she goes in blue slot for me
^
I think i get it somehow
If you put her in blue, her QTE will trigger on a blue 3 ping you do with someone else
I see
Any other good heal options? Been using regular Liv but she can only get me so far
Also why people talk of B-Liv vs A-Liv etc?
Is there going to be another S-rank target for base summoning anytime soon? i got 10k blue tickets 
Im trying to figure out one good healer unit to work on. I cant afford spending too many resources right now. Not with Dante around the corner
cause theres more than one liv
How do I get a leap? I’m tryna finish the phase mission for it
we had lots of liv
rozen?)
I just got crimson weave and feral are they good?(crimson from event)
We don't know.
with dante?
these skills
i mean u wanna fund a healer for dante?
i don't like crimson with all those parries
Hi, does anyone know when will this reset or it will stay there until i spend?
What is this?
the 59/60
Id say so
Yeah, but what is the banner?
Im 1000% running around with Dante when he drops
feral is good with nanami,cw is getting carried by nanami
selena banner
how many yellow rnd card u had?
it will stay like this
It'll stay till next event banner, no idea if it will apply to anniversary though
Wth, I don’t see those skills for crimson weave tho
it wont most likely but the anniversary banner is fire
will it stay until bianca banner?
The pity stays and a new character will take Selena/Veras place after DMC.
i can get luna and hanying with a 100% chance
it will stay forever
last ones in bottom right corner
Yes
These?
That's cool, thamk guys
OOH I found them, thank you
How do i get those alts? Crimson has some sick looking alt coats i need in my life
i'm stuck with crimson phase mission too being unable to handle norman)
Swipe for them unfortunately or they have gone for now.
either buy or get them from daily login(rn theres one for 14 days of login this patch if you didnt join like 9 days ago then you wont get it)
i think i got it for free somehow, do not remember
daily login
It was a login
is there a practice area in this game i wanna change my key binds and stuff
A game about gambling uh oh, can't have the naughty word.
btw how long until phase missions end?
hi can anyone tell me why my Pianissimo deals barely any damage?
her 3rd challenge (the current event one) took me 10 minutes...
Until the game dies
you didnt use the glaciation buff most likely you played her physical when the 3rd challenge is for her glaciation playstyle
Why is her hypertune on blue ping tho?
yes
and u not have enougth for vera geiravor with only yellow cards
on her debut banner needs 15k for garanteed, (u will luckass if u get her less than 60)
cuz s she is the best fire and ignition healer
that challenge is sick
i did, even outside of her challange she barely deals dmg
She's S rank, Physical teams suck without Alisa.
do you have alisa?
So that pic i sent you. Those are the yellow cards?
yep
Physical teams suck without Solacetune too, its the most expensive team in the game
got all my starting free funds into selena)
Alisa: Echo? yes but she is lvl 0 xD
tbh im coping with rosseta for 5 more days till anniversary banner but yeah
Yeah, Physical always sucks.
shes op because she buffs crit dmg and crit rate with her signiture memory set
Lvl up her and give her 4 Signa 4 DV (on the tonitrus you may have gotten from starter weapon selector)
also s0 selena
my dmg just doubled with alisa so use her shes really really important
As it should because she gives 100% crit.
wanshi helps a lot too (sadly he has to stay on the field for some time for that)
Ok so i got a bunch. What about them?
nah thats if you dont play physical
is there any point not doing glaciation?
Yes, during Physical content.
u need 15k for Vera geiravor
she is the best healer for dante
double amplifier stacks? like for example my fire team is missing pyro and I mostly play vera <-> wata swap with a 3rd slot being a qte bot (like sophia or whatever unit that can proc the memory)
but if double amplifier stack I should replace sophia with feral/liv/lilith or whatever other amplifier right?
Double amplifier buff doesnt stack
Whats a good second line then? I obviously cant go for her right now
In PGR, things with the same name tends to not stack.
However a 2nd amplifier can still buff the team with healer sets like Samantha and Guinevere
so 3rd unit in this case doesnt matter right? whatever unit that can proc the memory set is enough
Yeah
If I buy monthly pass a and c do they both work or does one replace the other
You can only buy one or the other.
Ok
the best qte bot is luna rn since you can run any tank with her
@iron mason I just want a good healer that wont take me an eternity to get cause base liv is reaching her limits
wdym
Luna makes amp and tank buffs work for all elements
luna makes any buff/debuff universal(except physical buffs/debuffs)
so if I have luna I can just run for every element something like
luna/amp (whatever amp)/element carry?
Luna + any elemental amp + any elemental tank
oh, needs to be a tank
It works well because you can pair gen 3 amps and tanks together
the 2nd is liv empyrea
but she hard to get for a rookie
so i guess any healer, who had amplifier role
and the fastest who u could get is alisa echo in dorm(u unlocked or unlock later on thats a chibi system in this game)
holy... I might get luna then on the 15k selector, so I swap sophia with her and run luna/vera/wata
I happen to have Feral lying around btw
IDK how i got her
You got her from the thunderbolt event.
so will be she
i forget how u get her with crimson weave
Funny cause i do have crimson weave
I heard she was the strongest Version of Lucia so i went for her
So in my particular case i should just work on feral for a healer?
yep
And use her QTE?
okay why is lucia unplayable at s rank like just got her ss and she feels so much better 😭 like shes finally playable
yes, she not good and onfield.
Alright. I can picture in a few days imma end up with a team of Dante Crimson weave and Feral
Hows Vera Rozen BTW
Vera is even worse to play as S-rank I've heard 
💀
She's... 5 or 6 years old
I mean as a healer 🗿
Terrible 
Im new here and im trying to put together a half decent team
good temporaly healer for dark
until u get lilith
She was good at launch, but there are many better A-ranks even
She will work I suppose, Lilith would prob be better who is also free.
But she still has that aura
i wish feral was an attacker. her mechanics with timings are just cute)
way more interesting than holding dodge on crimson)
yeah she very fun
until i faced a w18 bear in wz(personal trauma nvm)
Why is Nanami so good
cuz nanami
Nanami is Nanami
nanami voice actor is working very hard
No-one of us know why...delete Nanami 😄
Veronica boutta thrust this mf 
Every version of her has been meta in some way...
She was still meta even though she was horribly jank.
literally most players just used Pulse
also that team:
will look like dante, nanami startrial and feral
crimson specially not really good with paired with ignition units
how does that work BTW?
does she get weaker?
In that case i gotta ask: whats a good general purpose heal unit then
Im not really looking for meta right now, just something i can survive and do content for the time being
Feral?
FERAL?
FERAL?
IN IGNITION?
he unable to pull vera
🧱
im new here. i barely know what Im doing
she makes fire from sparks when entering the battle?)
Oh yea new
HE'S NEW
he won't even use Ignition
He can't
i guess for super early stuff doesnt really matter which healer you use
but theres no "general purpose healer", you are gonna wanna make teams for each element
still better to file your ranks with one element teams)
@fringe elbow Well then whats a good healer for the time being? My options are limited
im kinda lost here
IDK about elemental affinities either
Use Feral, which is free, for Nanami Startrail
Amplifier/Support depends on what team you are using
you dont need one
Im probably gonna be running around with Crimson weave and Dante for now until i get some more mileage and the chance to make actual element matching teams
i need a 3rd, a support/heal unit to go along
Roland is good ,
oh man I love spreading misinformation
xd
U know I actually agree
He is jester I like that about him
u can never trust him
you need vera and nanami startrail for dante
is that good enough?
all normal skills maxed, leap are lvl 8,
lower resonance all class skill level
for upper resonance i just went random and no hypertune for now...
need mats for dmc colab xD
should i level any of the leap skills more? kinda dont want to right now xD
I can't wait to replace alpha with Vergil
both vera and nanami dont need heals and good solo chaRS
Good enough, yeah, you dont need to leap her for Vergil nor any content in the near future
Gen 2 alpha
YES I KNOW IM AN IDIOT. But I got her randomly, I didn't have any physical dps so I made her my physical dps
tbh theres the anniversary banner so there is no rush lol
Leap skills for her are mainly for glacio anyways, everything else is fine.
I made so many leaps it makes me feel like I bricked my acc 

Btw dose leaps comes to new characters?
Watanabe eph is the next character.
Or they just stay without leaps forever?
Oooh
Well np I have maybe 1k left or sm
I can always buy some from warzone if I remember correctly
CW leap was done dirty
Question it may spoil for me but eh I'm curious
What happened to wata after the nukes went off ?
Cw?
Crimson Weave
||shh he dont know||
nanami startrail?
I made her leaps.
You mean the end of Aeon Reforged?
no I think it was star fallen or something
Before the eternal engine
yeah she's like best char in game that works for many teams, and one who you need for dante team
where do i get her?
why is he getting a leap I thought he was already strong
He is but the leap is mainly giving him Darkflow affix.
blue tickets 100% selector or with thunderbolt selector
Oh, he went back to the surface to aid the Gray Ravens deal with the hetero core and dipped back to lead the Forsaken
Ohh thats pretty good
leap skills are being introduced at some time after character creation?
nice. That i can do, thanks
So my short term lineup is looking as Lucia Crimson Weave, Dante and Nanami startrail
There isn't a set pattern for them, some characters which people expected to get leaps....Lee Hyperreal - Lamia were just skipped so who knows.
yeah she can solo most of the game content, esp if you make her ss with skulls and get her wep
hes the weakest fire member + if a dark tank released it would make dark way too op so wata got a darkflow leap to complete the team
And do his meetings with Ballard I suppose 
What the -
I just destroyed the hetero core in the chapter "eternal engine" he didn't show up
The story says he still missing
you need vera after that, for dante too
that i will take some more time. Nanami looks much closer by
ofc its lcw
Oh nvm then, said wrong stuff, but he survived and went back to the surface
hes not missing play the next 2 chapters (im playing them rn)
I'm replaying them later I need to recharge my phone
Yeah he comes back for Kowloong battle
can i reinstall the game without deleting?
You can restore/repair files
i need to reinstall on ssd, cuz this game works bad on hdd
I am so fukin confused about how tf do I play Pyroath
I feel like in doing the same comboes as in tutorial but somehow abilities just don't work
For fire or for plasma?
To the point Vera Ryzen does more damage than her and she's built just to heal
Fire
tutorial somehow skips half the mechanics
sig + dlt?
Once you swap to her, do a basic to build her sword bar, then hold ult, then ping red orb 3 times to get 9 stacks, do a basic, hold ult again, hold atk, do a basic, tap ult, hold atk, tap ult again
Needs sig + DLT
i still don't get how jetavie can regen her orbs outside perfect dodges(
Idk, it says do few basics, then signature, then hold blue orb, then spam basics, one heavy attack, and signature is apparently supposed to be up
Once I actually attempt playing this, I can't do the held blue orb and when I try doing anything else she just stands there
must be some requirement as you know, they give you everything tutorial needs to progress
Blue orb is for plasma rotation, don't do that on fire
is next week still a triple patch?
yes
copie all ur files where u wanna move on
after on the launcher change the directory on the settings/downloads
repair files
at least thats what i do when i moved to my ssd
Oh, I see thanks, ig that was one of the confusions I had with this character
Yeah, unless you have plasma stacks from Lilith blue orbs dont do anything
Also tried that and now it worked more or less.
I missed the part were I had to use some red orbs before charging her other signatures
Any advice on what healer do I pair with Pyroath?
If not Vera, any amp can cope
vera gardevoir
Damn I thought she was a carry lmao
she is the main dps 
Other than monthly cards what are other good packs for Black cards??
That 7-day login
Help, how do u build the outpost in this event? I’m new and can’t move forward what I missing here??
If you are wanting to spend - follow this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1--NFm3o__MguetZJQsEIjIbx4bvp3MPm0QWlA4q26zk/edit?gid=1509250371#gid=1509250371
Click on the hammer, build sentry tower in the spot below the high risk zone
Thanks
Is the in game recommended 4pc set and 2pc set for Selena’s memories good to use?
Nay
appreciate it worked perfectly
Follow the celica bot
Main DPS Set
Main DPS
High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman
Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
4x Burana
2x Cottie
Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Core Passive
Cottie
Selenas go to build is 4x Burana and 2x cottie.
The in game recommend is kinda ehhh.
7 day boon is the weekly right?
Thanks
Yeag, you get like 1500 bc over a week, login daily
For 24 rc
Oh so just gotta change the 2pc then
Yep.
Thanks got it
wdym by version limited? does this mean u cant get it anymore after the ver ends?
I like how newbie refuse to come here for gameplay advice
You wont get the memories discounted, and the gifts and furniture, yeah, you wont get it there anymore
those are discounted
after the patch, they will no longer be discounted
It just means these memories are lower price because these are signature memories of the banner unit.
It's more discounted during the banner's duration
Makes it cheaper to roll good stats
just force them, aboose your forking mod powa 
That's not how it works

Hi Fork, how are we?
Good, u?
Good.
Too many ppl giving advices in pgr general rn and probably confuses them
PGR general being responsible for once? 
10K BC for a guaranteed Vergil right ? And 7.5K for the weapon?
if they only confuse them, that's the better outcome
but those peepz there more often troll than actually help lul
10,500 to be exact for vergil and yep.
Man I spend all my BC on Geiravor now
Nope
Not anymore


We still have a week left of 3x so you can get him still during DMC patch if you collect all the bc goodies.
I know but I can't do anything if they don't want to come here for advice
Isn't dmc in 4 days
I malded 2 hours yesterday, only to realize today that I used the wrong team leader the entire time and bricced my dmg 
Yeah, but first week will still have 3x rewards
Ok
It is but we can still do the weeklies.
Started playing 2 days ago. Is it possible to get Vergil and his weapons if I do the story mode and other mode for BC? I might buy a monthly and weekly pack
Yes it is.
DMC will arrive in wednesday 
Thanks, you are goated 🔥
combine that with 2 weeklies 3x and that's 6000 bc on top of that
You'll need 46k for full DMC kits
3x meaning this patch?
yeah
Yeah.
Going by my math if you do want to spend money this would be the patch
You should have around 43k bc assuming you do all of that
Yeah if you are going to spend, grab this patch goodies instead.
Ok time to grind the story mode.
Btw how hard are the end chapters? I have the main lightning team, almost fully built according to the Gray raven website
Main story pretty ez since you get trial characters for later chapters
The later chapters give you trial characters for the story, there is no worries/
Ah nice
Just use Jetavie for ez story clears
So should I buy the 2 monthly+ 1 weekly?
I'd buy the two monthly supply packs - these are different to monthly pack A and the 7 day boon.
Got it 👍🏻
Just to make sure we are on the same page - these.
Help, does hypertune all really make a difference? dont wanna throw away black rings if it’s trash.
That along with monthly pass a will give the most amount of black cards you can receive
If you are low on Hypertuning, you can hypertune slot 4,5,6 as this gives you more attack and leave 1,2,3 as these don't give atk - so when you have spare hypertune materials. But yes when you unlock all the nodes of sequence pact which requires fully hypertuned units, it's very good.
Just bottom row is good
These two packs right?
But more importantly, what am I looking at
Yep those two.
indeed
monthly packs in topup stack btw
And they're mailed unlike the pass
Yep, that's why I suggested those over the regular monthly pass for now in case they only want to spend a little.
Pass also stacks with them so you can get alot of bc that way
What are these two??
These function the same way as the monthly supply packs, you get 100 black cards every day for 30 days, you can only have Monthly pass A or C.
for 114 rc it's 12400 bc you're getting out of it (If you get pass A, 2 monthly packs, and 7 day boon)
Ahh so these monthly packs are different from those?
Thanks, might as well hypertune it all for max gains
indeed getting multiple monthly passes only extends the time, they don't stack like the pack variant does
There is no point in ever getting pass c btw
always go for pass a
Ok
How good is SSS+ jetavie
Does the weekly pack resets weekly or patch?
We get different packs for different patches.
Ahh
SS Lamia > SSS+ Jetavie > S0 Lamia
Like during DMC the packs will be very specific to the collab.
Yeah I saw the banner currency is different
The next A rank coming out tho from what I hear is actually pretty competitive with Stigmata and can outperform her in true slash
Can A rank be stronger
So far no
But Discord seems like she will be usable in endgame content by the looks of it
We'll have to see when the patch releases where they will sit in the meta
In beta a lot of the characters look/are very strong then get nerfed/tweaked.
Things could be different to handle the Vergil situation tbh
However creeping vergil two months after his patch would be funny as f.
Most I see her being comparable too is SS no sig Vergil
Yeah no, I doubt that will be her release state.
Dont think so, Kuro wouldnt fumble collab like that
SSS+ Discord will be slightly worse than S-rank Vergil at best
She might be a better scorer in warzone than low invest Vergil just looking at her kit
In physical? prob his physical is quite ass at low invest.
Vergil has a huge problem of overkilling
From what I hear in anyway
She not getting anywhere near his ppc scores tho
Ultimately we'll see when the patch drops
How much hp does Powered have? 
I just saw a glacio run at SS3 Selena clear it at 600k so maybe 580 for SS0 mald?
its not all lost
guys what the hell are 6* resonance skills Im so lost 😭
Resonance on 6 star memories
ohhh
These.
yeah I see them now thank you!
How am i supposed to unlock these?
Gotcha
is it confirmed the anni next patch wont reset blue ticks selector?
Yes
Kuro has posted like 2-3 vids on their yt covering the DMC patch/anniversary and it wasn't mentioned so I think we are safe to assume it won't reset I suppose.
aighttt ty
selena ass
hey guys, im new and i got this character up (due to alot of recommendation) And i promoted her to hero and lvl80 and was wondering what skill should I lvl up
You level everything.
ooooh okke
also I aint even goin lie im lowkey just spaming everything and dodging cause idk how to play properly 😭
I come from the other kuro game😭
that's fine, you'll get use to the dodging ect the more you play. Nanami is a good character for that since she is fundementally simple.
Grats, your Vergil and Selena are happy.
tyty. but my question is. Is it still worth for vergil without hanying ss3?
Yes.

ah i figured it out nvm
No characters SS3 is necessary.
is it worth going for sss vera?
If you have the means then yes, its a good upgrade.
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is there anyone here that is really good with starrail?
You have startrails meta team already, the game gives you feral and Crimson weave, however Lucia Crimson weave can be swapped out for someone else if she is not SSS which she most likely isn't.
You can get startrail's team from the thunderbolt thingy
like this?
Move Nanami over to Yellow as she can't ping yellow.
Correct.
alr thank youuu
so i have a question and im wondering if its honestly worth investing in crimson weave, because i do have her built but the resonances are horrible, and she isnt hypertuned, harmonized or wp resonated, and all im wondering is if its even worth it since shes quite old and will get replaced either way?
We can't say for certain how she will perform in the Darkflow team as that's her only saving grace right now but outside of that, if she isn't SSS then most likely not.
shes sadly only s0 because i struggle with skulls alreafy and im saving them for bianca
especially with next patches rewards being lowered
That's fine, Bianca will get more usage out of SS than CW right now unless they release darkflow content very soon.
OKAY TYSM FOR THE HELP
Does orb generated by Qu's Inscription or Glyph able to stay outside Ult window?
Like if I'm doing Will Bearer, a 3ping during Ult can generate 2 ult stacks already, so I can save 1 3ping for next use or something
i know it saves you orbs when you do the hold dodge during a matrix instead of holding basic attack
Yea that's called Will Bearer
Only save if I only have 1 or 2 inscription stacks when doing that
i mean for me i dont have issues with orbs, i really hope you have her sig and dlt at least
If there's 3 stacks already, you get 3x3ping for ult but ult stack will be full just after 2 3 ping
I don't
Btw, can you enter matrix manually when you only have 2 Inscription stacks with signature, or does it need to be 3 stacks?
Saw her signature enable her to enter matrix by entering "into the fray" hold BA version (Mountain Caller)
But "into the fray" Mountain Caller can only be done with 3 stacks of inscription
It's automatically go matrix if u have her sig
mhm
So can't enter matrix by hold ba with just 2 stacks of inscription?
Mhm don't really answer my question lol
I don't necessarily get your question
Ah let me rephrase is, I got "into the fray" state wrong
It can but u need enemy to proc it for u
HELP SORRY I WAS AGREEING WITH THE PERSON WHO SAID YOU AUTO GO MATRIX WITH SIGNATURE
But if you have 3 stacks on Shurka core passive in the next time you cast signature move, you will get 3 pairs of 3 signal orb pings
If you use hold dodge before, you would only need 2 pairs of 3 signal orbs ping for a full gauge
With full gauge, any remaining signal orbs will be kept after signature move
That's why qu without sig is cripple
If you have SS rank Shukra you would only need 1 set of 3 signal orbs to fill all 4 gauge of Shukra signature move
Okay, into the fray is the 3+any ping right, when that any ping is tapped
So if you had 3 stacks of her core passive, you would only need 1 set of 3 signal orbs and get to keep the 2 pairs of 3 signal orbs
When in that state I can do 3ping tap to get additional inscription stacks
That or under certain circumstances you can use basic attack to enter her core passive
Am I correct so far?
But that won't give you any stack
Yes
If you have a SS rank Shukra, after swap in you can use a singular orb ping to enter her core passive and get 1 stack already
Even if you only used a singular orb ping
Very good to have
Damn, that signature sure is super powerful
Can do 3 ping, any ping (gain 1 stack) and enter "into the fray" + matrix, then just hold dodge to convert stack, ult + 1x3ping already giving 2 stacks (3 stacks at SS)
Is that correct?
It's actually 4 stacks with SS rank if you use hold dodge within her core passive
But yes
Yeah, but alternate between hold dodge and hold ba only if u soloing with qu
With Deadline Timing resonance, it provides you enough signal orbs to do hold basic twice within her core passive of requiring to do hold dodge
Is that because SS gives 1 initial stack during Ult and hold dodge version gives 3 (normally 2)?
If you follow the rule to only use singular signal orb after every 3 signal orbs that is
Some people used 3 signal orbs + 3 signal orbs on Shurka to enter her core passive
A crucial mistake
Yeah, I get that
Yes
Damn she's scuffed as fk without signature
Why does kuro make her like that
Giving you all 4 stacks with only 1 set of 3 signal orbs
Who knows
Scire had it worse
And arguably several frames before
We can only hope they follow this kind of design mistake again...but Selena just released and she is wonky without hers as well.
The latest to almost latest frame can be said to have a less punishing mechanism compared to the older frames
Dunno, kuro sorta make attackers cripple without their sig
New tanks and amps quite good without their sig, but not before
Crippled or not, that would be down to your interpretation of "crippled"
They are still usable without sigs, it's just much more annoying to manage.
Does 1 stack + hold dodge gives enough energy to ult though? Or do I still need to do 1 extra 3ping to get enough energy for ult?
With SS rank Shukra, using swap in + 1 signal orbs and then hold dodge can provide you sufficient energy already
But then, if you haven't realized it already
You can only use hold dodge when Matrix is active/currently present
You would need her signature weapon in that case you make it easier
I can't test it because I still don't have her signature
Matrix version is hard as fk to do without signature since the time window to do it is very small
That's why old pgr is hell
Since we already have Lucid Dreamer at this point, I just went out to do Shurka strong rotation once with her 5 star weapon and swap out afterwards
Miss matrix > die
It's just that much of a hassle to do her hold dodge rotation variations without her signature weapon
She doesn't necessarily need to carry the ice element team damage output when Lucid Dreamer is capable of doing almost the same
Like i said before, hold dodge qu if only ur soloing her, if u already have wanshi just do the hold ba one
First I need to enter "fray" with 3+any ping
Then within 8s I need to successfully dodge an attack, after that I only have 4s window to to hold dodge to do Will Bearer
During 4s window if I do any 3 ping I can easily miss that window to do hold dodge
Scuffed AF
Honestly even a base S rank Lucid Dreamer is already capable to be a valid sub DPS for Shurka
How much of a damage boost is Alisa's cub?
Dunno i dont have her cub
Is spamming Snow Drifter (hold BA when inscription stacks <3) even optimal lol?
Since there's a lot of time I can't get 3 stacks to do Mountain Caller (hold BA but with 3 stacks)
Nope
But is that the best thing to do when I can't switch out and can't get more inscription?
If not, what are the alternative?
Just continue basic attack and possibly hold the enemies for matrix so you can get a matrix ping for an easy 1 stack
I can't consistently dodge lol
It's increasing crit dmg by 75% after ult, tho i dunno if it's only for alisa only or for the whole team
Lemme try check further
With the way its worded in game, it's her ult that is buffed by 75%
yeah i know its a noob question but... where do I get cub materials? 😭
The simulation shop has majority of the resources you need for characters and cubs.
just scroll right.
What's the fastest way to farm levels in derived from matrix?
You'll get used to it soon
okay so i need tips, im more of a meta player just a quick warning, so were getting the thing where we choose a characzzer on a banner right until lilith for anniversary, well, i plan on getting bianca, her weapon and selena gacha costing. But i still want sss shukra, id get sss if i pulled, but i dont have much saved, hardly enough for bianca and selena so idk if i should just go for it and get shukra sss or save
Way better to save atp
Shukra is the last of gen 2 units so she's gonna have powercreep sooner than the others
yea since she only got 1 element
pyro already got powercrept in fire by vera by alot
but she is still the main dps in plasma
We don't know the element of the two teased frames yet so they could be ice and that would make SSS even more "risky" as they could power creep her in damage. I'd personally save your currency for Bianca and just hang out with a SS Qu+Sig and Wanshi for now.
Wanshi much better to SSS imo
Being a tank means that SSS will be huge for both ice and glacio
Wanshi is gonna have the longer shelf life at this moment in time.
okay thanks you two
yeah i was mainly getting sss lilith
but im wondering if i should get sss wanshi or echo?
Easily Wanshi
Wanshi no question.
Wanshi has the best SSS of the free units imo
To confirm you mean SSS Wanshi or SSS Alisa right?
mhm
Ok yeah still Wanshi
Wanshi literally carries ice for me rn
i honestly didnt know what got over me bit i spent all my vouchers getting karenina not knowing that shes literally one of the oldest gen 2, i def couldve gotten at least ss3 wanshi/echo 💔
Happens, I'd usually say hopefully she isn't power crept but honestly...we need a new dark tank sorry.
mine sadly doesent do much damage since he doesent have his sig and is ss0 so its honestly shukra carrying me 💔💔
Only reason I got her was because I had her idol coating lmao
wanshi sss gonna have higher prio then lilith and wata for a long time
yeah but im honestly praying veronica will be a fire tank cause i ditched wata for ss3 shukra in the free selector-
If only she's not high maintenance 
Planning on SSS+ Wanshi during the sync
No way they leap him and power creep him a patch later...that would be diabolical.
Wata getting leap so he can go sss tho
honestly id do the same now shes lvl 1 in my account rotting (including lamia which i got from standard recently)
need discord patch so bad now
atp I wouldn't bother 💀
cries 💔💔
that 10k better on anything else lol
We might get a selector during Bianca so there is hope for your wata.
Atleast you can use her as a shred qte bot by simply having her
my liliths sss so she clearly beats lamia since shes a faster character
Lamia slowpoke
my original plan was going for another shukra since i now have ss3, if i chose then pulled her thatd be sss but now with our rewards being cut in half i just gave up
atp ill choose bianca veritas from the selector cause i cant be bothered to build wata
Lamia can actually ult faster than Lilith with the tech. problem is invest level and her damage isn't there
Can't wait for Bianca ngl
Only during DMC, we will have a double or triple patch after depending on CN patch lengths.
Still wish she powercrept scire lol
The question is, why u want veritas?
arent the rewards also lowered during bianca patch cause in cn iz is
SAME
Cn is currently on Bianca but when we get onto Bianca they will be on discord or MAYBE Veronica/Liv.
Guess it's only 2x if sync still happens, i heard that cn runs 50 days per patch now
I got a question. Who is the better fire tank overall? Watanabe or Nanami star trail?
wata for fire easily
Startrail is the cope option
idk i love veritas and knowing how horrible my alpha is id love to build and use veritas instead (no i would not care that my warzone would be horrid)
isnt nanami only usable at sss?
It's always like that, sync in 2025 just there for dmc collab to happen earlier
as a fire tank
OH
No?
Veritas is the best Bianca Frame, the rest are mid.
really? i was told sss nanami would be a good fire tank? not replace wata but still
Otherwise u need to wait for one year just to see dmc in glb
@brittle pewter Cause I choose Watanabe as one of my selector options, but when I heard Nanami Star trail would be available next patch I wondered if I squandered my selector
We still having sync after dmc right?
Is Nanami a decent Lightning tank?
atleast one more right?
Like i said prob the last one in sept
Not decent, dps in lightning
Well they wanted to do the sync before DMC happened no?
sighs dramatically knowing i cant get ss luna because i have 500 skulls rn and with bianca release + rewards being lowered im done for
and overall im horrid at getting skulls so
That's prob why, I'm at a skull overload rn
They stated like that but i also heard from people that capcom really stingy if collab want to happen
I wish I knew about PGR way sooner. It sucks knowing I joined at the tail end of the triple rewards period.
Before the end of the year
You are fine, there will be an anniversary banner she will be in but if you haven't used your blue ticket selector or the thunderbolt, you can get her from there instead as they are permanent.
Try getting the selector if possible
test
@normal night I already used both of those to get characters I saw were recommended. I.E Hanying and Watanabe.
also question but whats more worth it ti get? ss vera or ss luna? adter i get ss bianca ill def spend my skulls on one of them but idk who
also i suddenly remembered my hanying zitherwoe dps build-
Vera and it's not even a question
Vera
I won't lie using either of those for Watanabe is rough...since he was free in the blissful gift.
Vera IS the main dps of fire
Luna's dmg too fall off and we now mainly use her for zaza team as nihil content somehow forgotten
use Lucid Dreamer as your main DPS (or whoever you want) and let the other two slots be for leveling up other characters so you can progress your upgrade tree
I noticed ending 1 is shorter but only gives you 3 levels, and it only takes 15 minutes to finish
I tried other endings and it took me 30 minutes, but it only gave me 4 levels (sometimes 5)
I also tried difficulty 2.5 - it’s harder, takes 45 minutes, and gave me 6 levels
(I don’t know how much you can get from this because I wasn’t able to kill the boss at the end everytime - only got 6 levels for not being able to kill the boss)
so I’m gonna say choose
-Difficulty 2
-Ending 1
-skip all the fights you can
-kill the boss and get 3 levels
-repeat
takes 15 mins to speed run 3 levels
is there shuffling duel event guide? the turnbase event one..
real (i say with my dps vera build which i accidentally got cause i didnt know the memory set from the shop was her dps one)
The matching one eh? Iirc some ytbers already did the video, try searching it
There's multiple sets she can run
U have fire team or not?
i do (i have lucia at least but not wata-) so i use an actual support build
Keeps her on field pretty much permanently
Just run her dps set then
oh?
thanks a lot man
also what about feral is she even worth hypertuning/getting ss
Honestly not really, her SS is damage and she doesn't get field time.
Dunno, lightning now aside nanami not really worth investing
oh 💔 thats honestly disappointing
Unless u can invest further on cw and feral to sss and have weap reso, i can say yes
@normal night wait actually now that I think about it, I used the one from blissful gift to get him. I use the blue ticket banner to get Hanying, and used the s rank selector from the challenge log (I forget what it was called.) to get Nanami pulse. And yes I'm aware that was a bad choice, that was before I started using the discord channel.
do i get dlt for echo?
lol no
She dont really need dlt, get axial ray instead
Do you still have this one available?
Theres a free s rank omniframe event can you even do it anymore?
is that the one which increases damage wtv by 8%
yeah
It's called Blessful Gift
Yeah that's buffing ur whole team
OH?
@normal night I do! Funny as I was JUST about to ask if it's worth going for!
ok let me check the requirements for it
Ok, you can get Nanami startrail from there eventually then since that selector in there is permanent - It costs 15k like a regular banner though.
@normal night is Nanami star trail what you would recommend getting from that selector?
100% since you don't have her.
yeah
i couldnt get her cause i didnt have enough pulls during lucia patch and i suffered with the permanent event which made you waste 15k bc for the selector
it was hell before owning her
Easily her and Vera are the most valuable units in the game rn
Yes
now shes mainly in plasma beam or dos lilith team
@normal night I was thinking about getting her as a sort of hybrid tank for my lightning and fire teams. Since she can fill both rolls till I get specialized ones
@brittle pewter good to know!
Absolutely, u can run her as lightning dps, cope tank for fire team, tank in plasma beam, can be quite strong dps in ignition team if u have her ss3 and tank for upcoming glow affix
ig good thing I got vera instead of selena
although I liked selenas gameplay more
Anniv will use event cards right?
You can't go wrong with startrail😎 a must unit to have
Nanami is a different breed, her damage is disgusting for Lightning and used as support in Ignition, Plasma and Glow.
Yeah, same as the themed one
@normal night should i summon on limited or save?
Depends really, who are you aiming to summon for and do you like DMC?
and shes also used as a tank alongside luna oblivion in some dps amplifier teams like vera or lilith
looking for active guild ph region
@normal night I think what I'll do is save up 45k BC to get the sparda brothers, then use the next 15k I save for Nanami star trail afterwards
ooh shi devil may cry colab forgot when is it?
6th august.
in like 4 days
how much you have?
Nanaknight can mostly fit any elem just have to switch some memos
Good plan, Dante wants her as tank too ^^
shi like 1k black card but im brand new Im like 3rd chapter main story
Except phys and ts, those 2 are different breed
@normal night YEESSIRR!!!
Most selfish team
You're so cooked 💀 🫡
goodluck.... esp with the rewards being cut by half you wont even have a guarenteed single s rank
Try to speed to weeklies if you haven't yet
Damn that's rough, you gotta play a fair bit then to knock out the story, get that bc and you'll get roughly 11k throughout the entire DMC patch as well.
is this game fairly F2p?
It is.
@normal night I won't lie. I have been solely planning my character hunts around building teams for the sparda brothers since the moment I got into pgr
mhm
It is you just joined at the worst time lol
Tail end of the 3x patch
Chill just save everything on dmc patch and nothing to worry 😁
Still better than later 
On 2 of the most valuable characters in the game
when does bp end?after the daily missions reset or before?
If you play daily/consistently you can pity every debut character from your start date.
honestly the fact that people who just joined only for dmc rn cant even have a guarenteed vergil hurts me-
They still can
i mean yeah with starter rewards
Vergil is 10.5k, DMC gives 11kbc
oh? doesent it give 7.5k....?
Roughly 11k
each day i find out i was fed more and more lies what-
This game is hella f2p

i was said that rewards normally are 15k per patch and during dmc would be 7.5k
If they just started on the first day and before the dmc patch ended they surely gonna have around 35k+ bc
My friends are at 30k+ in dmc savings
Wait is dmc a single patch 
Yea
yup
yeah
AAAAAA
how long is dmc patch
Yeah nah, they've never NOT given enough to pity a debut S rank since I've played and I've played since launch and took a few breaks here and there.
Let’s protest immediately/j
Around 6 weeks?
U want people rioting paired with bianca?
No it should be double since Dante and Vergil.
44 days, the longest one we have in glb so far
the sync patch is ending?
Yeah, it has 1 week
The most expensive patch for this reason 💀
Nah, it's one cus dmc
oh... at least ill have a guarenteed selena skin if dmc patch will give around 10k (i alr have almost 20k savings for bianca but yk)
Wait so we not catching up to Cn perfectly?
wait so what about the cn Bianca patch
Bianca will be the last or 2nd last synch patch after DMC
50 days
Will DMC have a spending event?
Dunno
Hopefully
Am I better just buying the skins rn?
oh so 1 more sync patch
We can hope.
I've heard at bianca were at 90percent sync on CN server
You and me both BRUTHER.
I have nothing to pull 
You have incomplete teams? 
yes we are cuz next is just discord and Veronica
Is Dante free? Is Vergil Guaranteed?
I took a break during Hanying xD
dante is free
Ripge physical, like me
vergil yeah but you gotta work hard
Kinda hard to chase every unit specially f2p
After 2 years of pgr I finally have all teams complete
Huh?
It’s pretty easy f2p.
How much black card? Including the weapon and cub
Yeah...I've always hated building physical, if you miss one piece the entire team kinda feels ass.
It's hard to hyperinvest as f2p
and i out here started during hanying patch, lucky me cause i actually got every meta character 🥹 (except watanabe but hes getting replaced in 2 patches so)
To get every unit. I only spent cause I got every unit + weapon + cub. If I didn’t pull sigs or cubs I’d have hundreds of pulls rn
But you can definitely have minimum invest on anyone as f2p easily
And thats why I'm thankful for collabs and A-ranks, these are weapon + cub spending patches
Getting just the base trial unit it is but to make them viable and unlock their perks and gimmicks is too expensive
WHAT
ngl I didn't even need to spend to have everything I have with how many pulls I'm at now
HOWEVER
same
the replacing wata is a lie btw but hes getting replaced eventually since hes an old gen 2
Erm...we can't got CONCRETE evidence he is gonna be replaced but I highly doubt they will do that after just giving him a leap.
SSS Vergil
👍
wym make them viable SS is free and is enough.
We are not sure if Veronica replaces Watanabe, most like she replaces Crimson Weave
yeah youre right about that though
Oh y’all scared me
where exactly do people go to for build guides ? new to game lol
are the events easy to do for new player? cause if so ima dedicate my life to this game for the next 2 days😖
I can’t wait for weave to leave
Yes very easy
gatta get good at both Kuro games💀
is it bad i wanna get sss discord so i dont have to build stigmata for ultima slash-
So I can scrap her 2 weapons
Isn’t SSS free
Discord SSS+ is free
Nothing wrong with that.
So go for it ig
oh i thought we werent getting free sss+ anymore...?
We are
While its sync patch we are
Uhm I recently started playing again after like months I'm lvl 47 I believe, and is there any characters I should focus on, or people anyone recommends pulling for? Here's my characters
Every A rank during sync is free sss+
Well Veronica might ended up lightning attacker if we're goin to base it on the prev roadmap or Veronica will be tank and replaced karen or wata and probably she is darkflow
Nanami Startrail
oh
Use the blue ticket banner to pull Nanami startrail.
make sure to get to lv 40 before the end of saturday so you can do warzone
That is not possible I think lol
Wow when I started playing it took me 2 weeks
Just join a guide instructor and spend lots of stamina
with guide easily
you have guide missions from ppl who are level 100+ that give thousands of exp
honestly i went for hanying on my na and asia then got selena, free echo, thats alr a phys team
And weeklys give like 1000+ exp too
3x patch also gives crazy xp
they made it rlly easy to get xp
Y’all is the 3x bp worth it?
Just get nanami startrail and just chill for the lightning team ATM after all crimson weave and feral are free just don't invest to much on them . Only on startrail
Hanying is also fine, we just tend to recommend on the general overrall best in there and that's currently Nanami.
yeah cause nanami is act super useful
Her and Vera are just bonkers for value right now.
best tank ive seen while playing for like 4 months
yeah im glad i have them both
Yes for sure



