📨・general-help

[woeful scroll]

you didnt read the 50 other messages apparently

[atomic arch]

lying through your teteh

[lunar rampart]

You are guaranteed to get every single native pgr s rank coming

[south crater]

I mean compared to the standard wep it is...

[hollow egret]

Then it makes no sense to mention 100% chance, cos there's something else message say

[magic jolt]

Believe me I had no bc saved for this patch and I could get selena vera with their sigs. And vera cub as a bonus

[willow umbra]

I think he's trolling

[woeful scroll]

Maybe if you take into account sigs and other things, yeah probably not going to get those unless you save up for a little while longer but every patch gives you enough just to pull the event char

[lapis iron]

Mine still ss6 imma sss her on bianca patch

[atomic arch]

you get enough cards for every character as a f2p bro what are you talking about

[magic jolt]

We getting a selector?

[hollow egret]

Not good resource to take info from, and still only one char in whole team, and still you overkill a lot with other weapons, like there's no content to use it at all

[atomic arch]

bro is a fisherman apparently

[lunar rampart]

Too generous

[sharp escarp]

Is it worth investing into crimson lucia and feral in the early game?

[lapis iron]

Yup but no Lilith just 25 construct and worth to get wata and qu same like we have right now

[atomic arch]

no

[magic jolt]

Is lucid dreamer there?

[woeful scroll]

You dont overkill with Phrolova, you overkill with Phrolova BECAUSE OF THE TOA BUFF

[sharp escarp]

That’s a shame, they’re hot

[atomic arch]

ld is free from dorms

[magic jolt]

Ik I want to SSS him

[atomic arch]

i mean you get most of their stuff from thunderbolt anyway

[atomic arch]

farm vouchers

[magic jolt]

Would take forever

[sharp escarp]

Worth lvling for now until I pull better units then?

[atomic arch]

it free though

[magic jolt]

Unless bp

[woeful scroll]

those units are meta tho

[atomic arch]

if by invest you just mean leveling them up to 80 then yeah

[willow umbra]

Technically yes because you get handed a free copy, her sig and cub

[lapis iron]

The free s selector is same just like we have right now on bianca patch

[willow umbra]

So you have no choice but to get that much lol

[sharp escarp]

Oh are they? Nice then

[sinful rivet]

wait hold up Feral is mental age 22?

[willow umbra]

No, 21

[woeful scroll]

for lightning

[magic jolt]

I want more nihil characters their animations are reality bending i love that

[sharp escarp]

Also lvling their skills too ig. Idk, im still learning

[lunar rampart]

Yes, 22

[viscid sequoia]

It depends

[willow umbra]

I was making the pun

[hollow egret]

Yeah, assuming sigs for some chars or u can assume newer players who can get only new chars but not every older one. And there's Someone posted spreadsheet here with pulls you get thru all patches

[sharp escarp]

Okay, I’ll lvl them then

[atomic arch]

yeah i was surprised too
i guess she's small because of malnourishment or smth

[viscid sequoia]

Cw needs sss minimum to be sub dps with nanami

[woeful scroll]

Thing is, you didnt say that in your argument

[sinful rivet]

uh oh i started investin in cw already

[atomic arch]

you can just not pull sigs and do fine yk that right

[woeful scroll]

when you provide “oh you cant pull every new event char every time” is a lie because you have enough. instead you could have said “well you cant pull every new event char with their sig”

[magic jolt]

My SSS cw does the same damage as SS nanami

[willow umbra]

in other games you wouldnt even have the character to begin with, and dupes are out of the question for f2p players

The same applies to signature weapons in other games too

[hollow egret]

Not really, DPS breakpoints Very low and she easy to play, so you can confidently do 50k+ DPS without sig, that s way more than needed to clear everything

[lunar rampart]

The thing is

[atomic arch]

you cant get 4s + r3 sig + 4s cub so the game is actually really greedy!

[woeful scroll]

50k+ is terrible damage tho

[lunar rampart]

PGR gives more pulls because it's more competitive

[viscid sequoia]

Ur doing smth wrong on nanami then

[woeful scroll]

I mean 100k+ is fine

[atomic arch]

is your nanami level 1 with 4*?

[viscid sequoia]

Altho idek how its possible to do smth wrong on her

[hollow egret]

Toa and whiwa need less then 40k to get all rewards

[viscid sequoia]

Hows ur qte timing

[magic jolt]

I guess

[woeful scroll]

camellya is literally better

[lapis iron]

I need sss+ cw

Simp

[lunar rampart]

It's a little bit better than some gachas since you can atleast get every unit you like

[magic jolt]

Sig harmonized and resonated + SScub

[sinful rivet]

does voucher shop ever reset

[atomic arch]

yeah you def doing something wrong

[lunar rampart]

But it's not like you need every single unit in say wuwa or genshin

[magic jolt]

Mostly random

[lunar rampart]

Yeah well no wonder

[woeful scroll]

and toa and whiwa need less than 40k because the buff caters towards echo skills, which is obviously going to allow a phrolova (even if it isnt fully built) clear the middle tower easily

[lunar rampart]

Alot of her damage is a burst

[hollow egret]

True, but they become irrelevant very fast too

[sinful rivet]

i just spam the button if you see it blinking
...which usually ends up with me switching them in by accident

[atomic arch]

wdym reset

[magic jolt]

I guess because my cw still has her dps memories instead of support ones

[viscid sequoia]

Cw uses dps memories

[sinful rivet]

refresh
also im blind there is a big timer right there

[lunar rampart]

SSS CW still has a dps build

[atomic arch]

the amount resets so you can get 60 a day i think
the characters no, they're the same until they add more

[lapis iron]

I don't use cottie on my cw anymore

[atomic arch]

yeah but only if you're a fan of her

[magic jolt]

Anyway I can clear all the content in the game except intensive battle I cant even unlock it

[lunar rampart]

I guess? It's still meta though

[atomic arch]

i guess

[viscid sequoia]

It means u cant clear content to a good degree

[sinful rivet]

14 winstreak with all timers in clash reflection?

[atomic arch]

acting as if that's hard

[sinful rivet]

...i might not be good at this game

[atomic arch]

outside of vonnegut any team with basic invest easily clears cr lol

[viscid sequoia]

Clash reflection is ez if u have a dps at ss sig

U dont even need whole team to be full invested

[lapis iron]

I hate vonnegut

[lunar rampart]

I remember doing the first cr with the ice team

[sinful rivet]

i got one character somehwat invested and thats it

[lunar rampart]

What a pain

[sinful rivet]

one month into the game now

[atomic arch]

wdym somewhat? s5 no sig with cub?

[sinful rivet]

ss3 selena no sig yes cub

[viscid sequoia]

[lunar rampart]

Why would you get ss3 before sig

[sinful rivet]

good question
i didn't know what i was doing

[viscid sequoia]

Those r some worrying decisions you've made

[lunar rampart]

[iron mason]

I remembering doing the first cr with ca and alisa rigor

[sinful rivet]

spending $$$ time i guess

[atomic arch]

huh

why did you pull selena dupe instead of sig 😭?

[sinful rivet]

because i honestly have no idea what im doing

[viscid sequoia]

Havent u thought of asking somewhere

[sinful rivet]

uh

[atomic arch]

that's beyond crazy bruh

[sinful rivet]

no not rly
not until it was too late

[atomic arch]

im in disbelief honestly

[sinful rivet]

i guess i can grind main story and get sig

[woeful sable]

Who do I uh pick from this 💔

[woeful scroll]

poor financial decisions

[atomic arch]

epitaph

[sinful rivet]

get epitaph

[woeful sable]

kay

also is this worth it?

[sinful rivet]

i think so?
but its permanent, you can wait until after dmc or smth

[atomic arch]

yes

[sinful rivet]

save BC

[atomic arch]

but like joe said its there for good so no need to rush it

[woeful sable]

Trues I only came back becuz of Dante

[atomic arch]

also anni banner next patch so you just get who you need in there and save thunderbolt for whoever you missed

[ornate leaf]

Meta warzone team rn?

[sinful rivet]

oh i forgot about that ;-;
i rly need more BC

[atomic arch]

depends on node

[sinful rivet]

maybe go to #📨・meta-help

[sinful rivet]

i am still a f2p so far
im thinking maybe that might change later today

[atomic arch]

not to rush but if you plan on spending you should probably do it this patch still

the good bundles now might not be here later

[ivory vapor]

Hello people, will Dante and Vergil have their own signature sets?

[sinful rivet]

yea ik
someone was helping me last night calculate optimal spending

[iron mason]

Not
them use old set

[viscid sequoia]

Nope

[sinful rivet]

~$70 worth of RC
also gets me like 12k tickets from the fresh dawning and other thing
so i can also get vera i guess

[ivory vapor]

Oh no that's so bad

[viscid sequoia]

Honestly having signature sets is kinda a debuff since ur stuck to it

[ivory vapor]

Eh I guess

[viscid sequoia]

I'd rather have everything in the kit and have usual builds

[ivory vapor]

Valid opinion, true

[viscid sequoia]

Rather than locking essential stuff behind sig sets and wasting 4 slots of memory for it

[ivory vapor]

So that's the case with Dante and Vergil then

[viscid sequoia]

Vera has 4 hervor but u never use it cuz its useless, unless ur running her solo dps

[iron mason]

Not really
Cut with dazzal said

[viscid sequoia]

Even her main dps set is 4 shakes 4 cottie

[ivory vapor]

Damn I didn't know that about Vera

[iron mason]

Them more flexible with builds kinda

[atomic arch]

the twins are only used for one thing, meta wise
so it makes sense for them to have specialized memory sets ykwim

[atomic arch]

yeah can you imagine having solo vera

[viscid sequoia]

Eh

I still prefer having 4 shakes 4 cottie over 4 signature + 4 cottie or smth

[atomic arch]

my bridget uses 4 shakes so

[viscid sequoia]

U can switch sets on her

[hollow egret]

you whould cos higher chances to get characters and there's still pity. You just cant get every one as f2p, but only one's you like. Even if you meta slave you still fine with 4* chars. And chars you get wont powercreep to irrelevancy in 1 year

[viscid sequoia]

4 shakes is much more reliable on a main dps or a tank with good off field application

[sinful rivet]

is fate banner ever worth it

[willow umbra]

it doesnt matter how much powercreep happens if you have all the characters regardless

[main fractal]

nope unless you whale

[sinful rivet]

you mean like
pull a frick ton of times on it?

[main fractal]

yea

[willow umbra]

Yeah if you pull thousands of times on fate banner you probably will end up in a better spot

but unless you're some giga whale

[sinful rivet]

so about how many pulls on average makes fate more worth than standard banner

[main fractal]

80 if lucky

[willow umbra]

not easy to say bc it depends on your luck

[sinful rivet]

im sure there is some math that can be done tho?

[willow umbra]

What were the exact chances of fate banner giving a s rank char?

per pull

[sinful rivet]

1.5% i think

[main fractal]

im mean people already did the math and normal better

[hollow egret]

no one do 100k in wuwa, 80k is max and it assume frame perfect inputs and afk 1 wave boss, so big dps is aroun 60-70k, 50k is ok one. Phrolova best team do 60k+, i just assume that you dont have sigs and you dont play optimaly, so 50k is less what can you expect. Btw less then 40k cant clear all content. So sigs there dont do much, but in pgr they do, so not so generous after all

[atomic arch]

only use fate if you plan on getting sss+ because then you need like 10 copies

[main fractal]

no point forcing fate will be good

unless you whale

[atomic arch]

3 in 200

[sinful rivet]

... so there is a point then, where fate is better
its just after so many pulls that it isn't reasonable anymore

[atomic arch]

yeah you gotta be a giga whale for it to be worth it

[main fractal]

the chances are just bad so why bother

[viscid sequoia]

U can make arguments for both wuwa being more generous or pgr being more generous

But u cant deny wuwa has the trash ass rng gear system

[sinful rivet]

i wouldn't bother
i was just curious about it

[hollow egret]

most gacha players play for characters, so it's really a shame when character you like not relevent anymore. And if you meta slave you still dont need every new character, cos not every new is meta

[main fractal]

you can always do a 1 pull every patch pray for good luck lmao

[willow umbra]

A character becoming irrelevant is certainly a valid criticism, but also has nothing to do with your original point about game generosity.

[atomic arch]

fate has higher chance of S per roll but its still so low that you need to go waaaay above pity for you to begin to notice it

[sinful rivet]

... i guess that would eventually make it worth it?
like after a few dozen patches

wait no a lot more patches than that

[main fractal]

depends on your luck lmao

[hollow egret]

yeah, main point is that pgr gacha system not that generous when you play it and figure out things, it's not that simple that 100% 60 pity = most generous gacha or smthing, there's more to it

[tiny folio]

I’m sure someone asked this already but is the anniv banner gonna use the yellow event tickets or is it its own thing like the DMC collab?

[willow umbra]

pgr is objectively extremely generous for a gacha game, since you get every new character and can invest more in them

[atomic arch]

100 patches for guarantee on fate
you might have better luck on a random day tho, who knows?

[atomic arch]

yellow tickets apparently

[main fractal]

yellow always

[willow umbra]

In any other gacha game, its a challenge to even pull a copy of a character, let alone invest anything else in them

[sinful rivet]

i think just a normal banner except you can pick almost anyone

[tiny folio]

No Selena on anniv is depressing af

[atomic arch]

she's there right now bro

[willow umbra]

It really is as simple as this, actually

[sinful rivet]

can you still pull for selena sig after she is gone

[tiny folio]

I can’t guarantee getting her

[main fractal]

yes

[willow umbra]

100%, 60 pity along with pull income puts it into the top of generous gachas

[light patio]

People rather have almost all the characters thats why so in a sense it is

[atomic arch]

backpedalling again

[iron mason]

100 patch pgr sooner eos than u reach

[main fractal]

all character weapon can be pulled anytime

[hollow egret]

it is actually, after your lovely character powercreeped hard you need to pull for new one, when in other gachas it's not the case. And if you spend some amount of currency on more then 1 charater(on sigs, additional characters, collabs) - then you need to swipe for newer one

[south crater]

How much would it cost to get Vergil to sss,one copy of his wep, and his cub?

[sinful rivet]

ok great
so maybe getting selena to ss3 before sig was not a horrible idea
just a below-average-iq idea

[vapid tree]

dude always in here doomposting

[atomic arch]

third time you change your point lol

[light patio]

but it still cost less money to do that

[north peak]

Wait I know you

[hollow egret]

you have big issues with reading. like with bloodborne chalice thingy

[atomic arch]

you have big issues with admitting you're wrong

[main fractal]

i mean she kinda needs her waepon but yea just farm for it

all i want now is my fcking selena wedding skin

[hollow egret]

xD i guess same for you with missreading

[light patio]

imagine not getting carte weapon, she loses so much damage. So you basically need her weapon for her to be really good

[atomic arch]

"oh you cant guarantee every character"

you can
"not as f2p"
you can
"you cant guarantee every sig"
you dont need them
"but if you like old character they're not meta anymore"

[hollow egret]

not really, since in other gachas you dont need sigs at all to get all rewards, and you have a lot of 4*characters to do

[atomic arch]

you dont need sigs to get rewards in pgr either 😭

[hollow egret]

that's not what happened

[light patio]

In wuthering waves you do, carte needs her weapon lol or the dps is noticeable

[hollow egret]

you do actually, for like 60% rewards you dont, but for more you need it

[hollow egret]

she dont

[atomic arch]

for like 99% you mean

[light patio]

she does or shes clearly worse than other dps lol

[sinful rivet]

... i have returned to discord and i have gotten myself a selena sig weapon

[mental chasm]

who to SS first, lucid dreamer alisa or epitaph?

[willow umbra]

1. Yes, you need to pull for new one, but you will guaranteed have more than enough for the new one, even as a f2p

2. Characters take about 2 years to be powercreeped, which is comparable with a lot of other gachas. I would not consider PGR special in that regard

[atomic arch]

every weekly is participation reward you only need sigs for tryharding

[light patio]

you can literally look up the stats

[atomic arch]

ld

[willow umbra]

60% lmfao?

[ivory ermine]

Hmm

[mental chasm]

thank you

[hollow egret]

you wont score 155000 in every element without some sigs in ppc

[light patio]

also ciaconna is needed until s3 or the damage is noticeably worse again. How is that better than Pgr?

[ivory ermine]

Brew these things up people, it couldn't get worse than this

[tiny folio]

At the very least I wanted to get everything for Vergil (which I have enough for his SS and the other stuff) but even so I don’t have Solacetune

[atomic arch]

you can

[ivory ermine]

Who the hell is ciaconna

[willow umbra]

All that for a few extra skulls, nowhere close to 40%

[proven hamlet]

Wuwa character

[mental chasm]

bro my 5* weapon vera is so goated 🔥🔥

[atomic arch]

brewing ☕ 😋

[hollow egret]

she's not lol, use maygi calculator to figure it out by urself, she do same 50-60k dps sigless same as all other chars

[willow umbra]

you will get 90% of rewards fairly easily

[hollow egret]

and bc

[willow umbra]

how much bc we talking about

[atomic arch]

same bc as advanced so just go do that

[light patio]

i have s3r1 i literally know already, shes cleary worse than other dps without sig and ciaconna

[celest condor]

is there a 6* sig priority list?

[sage hazel]

Where i can find rotations for teams?

[light patio]

idk why you trying to lie

[sinful rivet]

whoever you use i guess?

[willow umbra]

Also wait, score 155000?

[atomic arch]

youtube

[atomic arch]

uppc

where 1.55m is the same rewards as advanced

[willow umbra]

Yeah but isnt it 1.8m for outlier zone

[atomic arch]

yeah

[willow umbra]

oh but thats easy to get, even without sigs

[hollow egret]

you dont really know, she as good with proofs, everything calculated. So if you cant do simple rotations then rip

[sinful rivet]

wait so what is the point of uppc then

[willow umbra]

Bc you get more if you get more than 1.55m

[atomic arch]

if you get 1.8m you unlock ib which gives more rewards

[light patio]

s1r0 without ciaconna is not as good as carlotta lol

[ivory ermine]

#📨・general-help message

[sinful rivet]

oh
im very not ok in uppc
i think moving there was a mistake...

[atomic arch]

wait is echo sig that important?

[willow umbra]

F2P players can also pull several sigs, surpassing 1.55m as a f2p is really easy

[iron mason]

Bro ss0 r0 enought to 580k every boss ss0 no sig thats low

[atomic arch]

still good to do outlier points, gives a TON of skulls if youre doing it for the first time

[mental chasm]

is it worth it to r1 selenas sig with dlt?

[ivory ermine]

Outlier bosses, is your main goal of joining the Ultimate Phantom Pain Cage for the first time

You can almost ignore the main bosses entirely at that point, until you can afford more stronger team

[atomic arch]

also if you can get 1.55 you didnt lose anything

[ivory ermine]

Yes

[light patio]

zani is also better but she needs phoebe, another character that completely is reliant upon another limited 5* but pgr is worse

[ivory ermine]

Yes

She's the core of the Physical team

[atomic arch]

still good to do the main bosses just for weekly participation rewards

[atomic arch]

damn so why do they recommend tonitrus then?

[sinful rivet]

yea i noticed
but i guess i could've gotten a bit more skulls in advanced instead, and gotten the outlier bosses later
but as usual i didn't know what i was getting myself into lol

[willow umbra]

how is startrail above solacetune and shukra for sig lmao

[proven hamlet]

Is Echo sig more important that Solacetune's?

[willow umbra]

you can barely even do a rotation with solacetune and for shukra you need to matrix dodge to even do a rotation without sig

[atomic arch]

she's last in the list that steve linked, so no

[celest condor]

awesome, one question, between selena and nanakight sig which one is more important to have?

[willow umbra]

At least startrail rotation is unaffected by sig or not

[proven hamlet]

Oh wait nvm

[ivory ermine]

That's already almost as good as her signature weapon, if you can get Tonitoris pulling Echo actual signature weapon wouldn't be necessary

[gritty shore]

Solacetune wants dlt if u want to do 2 rots

[proven hamlet]

[atomic arch]

wait so by "sig" you mean mainly "harmony" then?

[hollow egret]

same, she does not need that char to perform way more then needed, you have no clue even lol why bother writing it

[short cloak]

how does the anniversary banner work and can i pull 2 different characters from it?

[willow umbra]

100% solacetune is better

[atomic arch]

yeah

[ivory ermine]

This only applies to Echo, so no

[gritty shore]

Also Steve didnt list luna sig which is omega crucial in playing actual swap void

[mental chasm]

does echo need dlt to be used well in her team? sorry misread meant harmo**

[light patio]

you have to be trolling zani is almost unplayable without phoebe

[atomic arch]

yeah i meant "echo sig" ~= "echo harmony"

[short cloak]

so its not locked into 1 character after i select them?

[atomic arch]

yea

[willow umbra]

no since she's not there for dps

leave that to hanying and selena

[hollow egret]

ont sure you can do that with every element

[short cloak]

isnt she there for her signiture memory set?

[sinful rivet]

isn't this a pgr server not wuwa...

[atomic arch]

she still works without harmony but it's a major improvement
and if you just started playing you can get that for free so

[light patio]

im convinced you are trolling now and just want to complain about Pgr

[gritty shore]

Some sigs are worth to pull before the others because each signature weapon has different offrates. For example Vera Geiravor sig has Wanshi and Han signature weapons

[sharp escarp]

For the base member target banner, what s rank should I target as a new player? The amount of choices is a little overwhelming

[atomic arch]

nanami no question

[short cloak]

who do you have?

[ivory ermine]

Honestly, I still wasn't able to find the right spot to put Oblivion signature weapon

[sharp escarp]

Isn’t she an a rank?

[hollow egret]

google zani spectro rover toa videos

[short cloak]

they can get nanami from thunderbolt research tho while some characters arent there

[celest condor]

nanami: startrail

[atomic arch]

nanami startrail

[sinful rivet]

ohh thats a good point

[atomic arch]

better to get hanying or pyroath

[light patio]

google how much damage she loses without phoebe

[sharp escarp]

My only s ranks are Lucia crimson, feral and tenebrion

[willow umbra]

Wdym?

[mental chasm]

I have some spare harmony stuff, so what 2pc set would you want to harmonize for her? cottie?

[atomic arch]

i use 4 philip ii

[short cloak]

nanami:startrail she carries both lightning and ignition

[sharp escarp]

Ohh I didn’t even see her lol okay

[mental chasm]

ah okay interesting

[sharp escarp]

Okay I’ll target her thank you

[sinful rivet]

is there another way to get the aura basic units aside from cog shop?

[atomic arch]

wdym

[short cloak]

simulation shop

[short cloak]

the leap materials(thats how they are called)

[sinful rivet]

i can't find it 🙁

[short cloak]

1 second

[atomic arch]

from the main menu
battle -> resources -> simulated battlefield

[distant valley]

which tasks are the fastest to do in guide missions?

[willow umbra]

Is it like the weapons you get if you fail the 80/20?

[sinful rivet]

i meant i can't see it in the simulation shop

[atomic arch]

scroll

[gritty shore]

Pyroath > Selena > Parhelion > Nanami > Gera > Wanshi > Solacetune > Luna > [ Shukra / Wata ] > Echo

[willow umbra]

shukra should really be higher on that list

[ivory ermine]

No she shouldn't

[willow umbra]

she literally cant do a rotation without having to matrix dodge without a sig

[gritty shore]

Wanshi is sufficient

[atomic arch]

yeah but you can just use wanshi

[hollow egret]

not that much, still big overkill in toa and whiwa so you get all rewards without trouble

[lime oriole]

just solo wanshi

[ivory ermine]

Shukra performance compared to the other attackers are not comparable to justify the cost for her signature weapon

[gritty shore]

Thats probably best prio u can look for in weapons

[light patio]

do you have these characters?

[willow umbra]

Wanshi eats too many orbs lol

[light patio]

because i have them all

[gritty shore]

No he doesnt, just ss3 wanshi dlt

[lime oriole]

spam drone ult at ss3+

[ivory ermine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1383785490360172584/1395215576598577192/YouCut_20250717_082607208.mp4?ex=688cc103&is=688b6f83&hm=59a1e6c487b87e9407125c7f7a4c41e9b6b36e2dad7acb17a77ab572c1b14633&

You just need to learn how to play the game

Both of them has 5 star weapon only

[hollow egret]

so you'll lose 36 skulls + let's say top 50% 18 skulls from intensive battle so it's ~30% rewards and 90 bc if you in ultimate zone. You right that it's not that big of a deal, but still good amount every week, in comparison for all rewards in other gachas

[lime oriole]

alya has fieldtime, bricked run

[hollow egret]

yes

[gritty shore]

Can bring Luna higher one spot cuz zaza stuff

So ur zaza has one extra memory, big value

[ivory ermine]

It's not something that's possible to do without a SSS rank Lucid Dreamer

[light patio]

Okay so use zani without phoebe and tell me shes as good as jinhsi and carlotta

[lime oriole]

#🚀・off-topic-lobby

[ivory ermine]

Kaleido getting a field time doesn't mean your ice team is performing horribly

[gritty shore]

SS3 Wanshi Dlt can do pure solo run

[willow umbra]

What total score are you assuming you're getting here?

[lime oriole]

@hollow egret

[atomic arch]

cant you fill the gauge with only 1 3p on on switch in?

[gritty shore]

U just spam 30 > 30 > 30 > 30 > 30 > 30 > stunned > reset

[brittle terrace]

I found a qube

[lime oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1391016127781535775/QU_ball.gif

[sinful rivet]

literally what ive been trying to say
why so much wuwa discussion in this channel

[unreal crystal]

[brittle terrace]

Its a queer!

[lime oriole]

Iuno feet

[brittle terrace]

When was the last time we had ice wz?

I may have had ss0, ima have 3S now

I wonder how thats going to feel

[sinful rivet]

i need wanshi tutorial
idk how to best use his ult

[ivory ermine]

My Lucid Dreamer was only at S rank when recording that video

[brittle terrace]

2 rot u use first ult then 2nd ult

12 then 30

[atomic arch]

dam

[sinful rivet]

is there a reason you don't only use 2nd ult?

[brittle terrace]

U need to build stacks

[lime oriole]

3 weeks ago

[brittle terrace]

To nake it stronger

[sinful rivet]

glaciation stacks?

[brittle terrace]

Swiping gives u sss quickly damn

[proven hamlet]

my ice team is 22.31 155 100, do I still prioritize Shukra time over Wanshi's?

[atomic arch]

155?

[brittle terrace]

Nono revolver stacka by tapping red orb or holsing ba

[proven hamlet]

5* weapons on Wanshi and Ayla

[gritty shore]

If u had sig on wanshi u could just solo wanshi zaza

[lime oriole]

r1 5* 5*

[sinful rivet]

you mean the number in the middle that goes up to 30?

[brittle terrace]

Having luna comin in handy again😌

[gritty shore]

Pulling qu weap before wanshi smh

[atomic arch]

well if you got shukra ss0 r1 just use her

[lunar rampart]

No

[atomic arch]

i did that cuz i like shukra

[sinful rivet]

...maybe i should just stop being lazy and watch a video

[brittle terrace]

Disgraceful

[gritty shore]

Brick

[ivory ermine]

Your rotation remains unchanged from the usual Ice team rotation

[sinful rivet]

pls explain ;-;

[proven hamlet]

Aite

[gritty shore]

I have no qu and im pulling for jetavie sig now

[ivory ermine]

The ice team is one of the forgiven team when your investment is incomplete

The rotation changes is really negligible

[sinful rivet]

what do these numbers mean

[lime oriole]

is 02.31 014 010 ice bricked

[ivory ermine]

And then the Physical team is the most punishing team to be lacking in terms of Investment from how strict the character builds are

[gritty shore]

Just go zaza with luna

[ivory ermine]

The normal rotation is simply impossible when you're missing one of the character signature weapon

[willow umbra]

The ppc skull numbers here are accurate, but the mistake you're making here is that you're equating these rewards with other gachas

[lime oriole]

i can feel it with my garbage alisa

[sinful rivet]

cool thanks

[atomic arch]

0??????

[lime oriole]

no qu

[willow umbra]

Losing out on 36 skulls per week (in a triple patch, that is) is annoying, but you wouldnt even have a ppc like system in another gacha where you get free dupes

[lime oriole]

[atomic arch]

so you just use 2 characters? what

just put the other wanshi on the team bro

[willow umbra]

Its plain incorrect to say that PGR is less generous because of this

[gritty shore]

Do u have luna

[lime oriole]

yes

[gritty shore]

Just use luna lilith wanshi

[lime oriole]

i was just making a joke

[willow umbra]

This numbers system is wild

[ivory ermine]

Some people simply forget how swap in Cooldown works in this game

In a case you're wanting to "extend my attacker field time because my sub dps are not built"

The swap Cooldown for your attacker once you swapped them out will still be 15 seconds cooldown regardless how long you're going to keep them on the field.

Meaning you're still going to go through 15 seconds of your half built sub DPS and support before you're able to swap into your attacker again

Extending your strongest character time more than it should is just a bad idea and does nothing but reduces the amount of swap in you can get if you're only doing the necessary field time

[gritty shore]

|| femboy ||

[willow umbra]

its easier to just say the invest without translating it

[sinful rivet]

that... is a good point

[lime oriole]

what do you think of my ss3 6* r1 dlt harmo cub pyro, ss0 6* r2 dlt sar harmo cub vera and ss3 6* r1 dd harmo lingya wata

ts is NOT easier nor faster

[willow umbra]

That is much more understandable than a string of numbers

[sinful rivet]

yes... unless everyone else understands the numbers well

[lime oriole]

takes 20x longer to type out

[gritty shore]

Why even disclose 6* if u say next u have R2

[woeful scroll]

its like its own language

[lime oriole]

[ivory ermine]

Honestly, at this point I don't know anymore how many times I've seen people go with "because my team is barely built, I'm going to spend as much time as possible with my attacker before swapping to another character"

In that case, I was wondering why don't they just play solo dps team

[cursive slate]

what memory do i run on lucid if i run da vinci on ayla already

[ivory ermine]

Lucid Dreamer memory set is 4 Piece Liston and 2 Piece Einsteina in general

[lime oriole]

4 liston 4 chen/2 eins harmoless

[ivory ermine]

If you can get his Signature weapon, he can utilize 4 Piece Chen Jiyuan with the Harmony upgrade

Instead of Einsteina set

[cursive slate]

i don't want his signature

[ivory ermine]

Alright then

[lime oriole]

he doesnt want his signature

[cursive slate]

what resonance?

[frigid goblet]

Why is my Ish not a Tank with Echo on the team?

[cursive slate]

doesn't work with physical ig

[lime oriole]

cause shes stupid

[frigid goblet]

bro what

[sinful rivet]

well
isn't that basically what they are trying to do? solo dps with just their attacker and using the barely built characters as qte bots

[frigid goblet]

i hate physical man

[lime oriole]

ishmael loves getting physical with skk only

[ivory ermine]

Any random resonance would work just fine especially if you think you're low on resources/have the other character/team to build as well.

The optimal memory resonance are +Atk for the top slot resonance on each memory piece and signature move for the bottom slot resonance

[hushed delta]

in next patch normal rewards or x2 rewards ?

[lime oriole]

normal

[ivory ermine]

Ah

[sinful rivet]

does this mean only 30 BC for daily missions?

[lime oriole]

yes

[cursive slate]

|| touchy touchy in story ||

[ivory ermine]

I can't wait to see some of the players reaction getting the "normal" income of the game once the next version is arrived

[hollow egret]

True, but in other gachas you get way more modes that reward pull currency, and you get all rewards. While in pgr you get less pull curency and skulls which works not like pull currency but like a natural character progression, almost no characters you pulled very good at S so you dont need to use skulls on them, that's more like getting 48 items to level character from 80 to 90 in other gachas, but here its just skulls

[sinful rivet]

me
i started during this patch so ive never experienced normal income

[willow umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/speak-gif-9578947274896178319

you are the wall rn

[lime oriole]

new players getting a reality check next week

[willow umbra]

I give up, good night

[vapid tree]

😂

[sinful rivet]

😭

[willow umbra]

if someone else wants to endure the pain of getting him to understand, be my guest

[ivory ermine]

Low resources income + about 10 S rank character to build from the scratch

[lime oriole]

luckily its a filler patch so its fine

[ivory ermine]

Complaints are inevitable

[sinful rivet]

[timid dune]

most of them are gonna summon for dante nd vergil then quit cuz games too hard for them💀

[ivory ermine]

Also going to be one of the main reasons why one should not aim for a perfect memory resonance until they're done with most of their team

[lime oriole]

i expected the collab to have more rewards than a normal patch

[ivory ermine]

They won't realize how actually expensive it is to get the perfect memory resonance until they're running out of resources

[lime oriole]

laughs in 200k currency and 30 red usb

[atomic arch]

should i dump all my serum packs into simul battlefield before aug 6?

[ivory ermine]

Look at this Whale flexing his pocket

[north peak]

hi chat why is my sss vergil not doing dmg? im using a rank hanying and nanami teammates

[ivory ermine]

I would highly recommend to do so

[lime oriole]

no ishmael

[ivory ermine]

Try to get every bit of serum you can get and spend them all before the update arrived

[lime oriole]

she very op phys support

[timid dune]

[lime oriole]

💯

[atomic arch]

a rank hanying and ayla you mean

[north peak]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-damn-bro-daamn-that-was-obvious-realising-gif-24880382

[brittle terrace]

Oh why?

[sinful rivet]

or... we just don't care about perfect resonance?

[ivory ermine]

Yes

[atomic arch]

triple patch triple serum

[sinful rivet]

i still haven't figured out how to get it right so i stopped trying

[brittle terrace]

Yeah but y have to use it

[atomic arch]

cuz if you use it later its 1/3 rewards from simul

[north peak]

i heard nanami is super strong though

[timid dune]

isnt only the serum tripled?

[ivory ermine]

You shouldn't be concerned too much of the perfect memory resonance until you reach a certain point of the late game

[brittle terrace]

Feck

[flint fractal]

Is my account good

[brittle terrace]

So u get triple serum and triple rewards rn?

[atomic arch]

you get less serum per pack so less rewards per pack also

[atomic arch]

no ss nanami? brick

[north peak]

no you have tsubricki

[flint fractal]

🥀

[flint fractal]

Tsubricki is the way

[north peak]

the way to nowhere

[sinful rivet]

wait what
you mean simulated battlefield shop is gonna cost x3 more or smth?

[north peak]

[flint fractal]

True...

[ivory ermine]

It was meant for the majority of the new players that don't have much resources yet from the fact that the next version would be back to the normal resources income and very low serum income

[sinful rivet]

not me with no nanami

[timid dune]

u will get 1/3rd of the serum

[timid dune]

get nanami

[atomic arch]

no you'll just have 1/3 of the serum to spend

[brittle terrace]

Ah k, tbey gon complain so much lol

[cursive slate]

should i run 2pc guin on alya if i run eintien on lucid?

[sinful rivet]

oh. uh oh

[flint fractal]

Yes
That's the point of ayla

[sinful rivet]

should i be saving my serum right now then?

[atomic arch]

opposite
spend everything

[ivory ermine]

It technically won't cost 3x more

But considering the price stays the same but with your serum and resources income is back to its normal speed, might as well be one

[timid dune]

just spend it

[sinful rivet]

uh
i meant the capsules but ok

[atomic arch]

the capsules give 3x serum now so just dump it

[timid dune]

i mean what are u gonna need serum for

[sinful rivet]

wait so normally capsules give 20 serum?

[atomic arch]

story 🤣 jkjk

[timid dune]

unless u wanna go do story then do story

[hollow egret]

kinda funny how guy read arguments and gave up throwing 'he dont understand' card, lol

[lime oriole]

the capsules give the same serum

[sinful rivet]

im lost

[lime oriole]

you just get 3x of them and 3x simulated scores

[ivory ermine]

You're getting serum almost every day from everywhere, just spend them

[willow umbra]

I have explained it to you four or five times by now

[atomic arch]

yeah mb you get 3x capsules

[willow umbra]

that is the reason why

[timid dune]

u will only get 1 in dmc patch

[ivory ermine]

Unless you're planning to do some story chapter soon enough

[timid dune]

instead of 3

[gritty shore]

Use whole serum or u bricked

[atomic arch]

btw where do these come from anyway

[sinful rivet]

ok
do we keep the sim battlefield currency after patch

[ivory ermine]

We do

[timid dune]

ye

[lime oriole]

yes

[sinful rivet]

i try to keep my serum under the cap so i naturally regen

i got about 100 capsules rn

[lime oriole]

good boy

[hollow egret]

you said that skulls is unic currency that five dupes and its not exist in other gachas, and i answer to it, you didnt answer and just gave up

[atomic arch]

damn i only got 50k simul score what a shame

guess I'll go finish the interludes now

[sinful rivet]

what do i spend my serum on anyways

[ivory ermine]

Yeah, you definitely don't want to keep all of them until the next update

[gritty shore]

So u are chosing to brick, lil tip, u gonna get way less for it next patch

[atomic arch]

just use it and spend instantly

10 seconds wont make that much difference

[sinful rivet]

... you mean we got 20 serum per capsule?
i though someone said we only get x3 less capsules

[willow umbra]

As I said, have explained why pgr is one of the most generous gachas four times now

[timid dune]

no u will still get 60

[sinful rivet]

spend on sim battlefield?

[ivory ermine]

Either simulated battlefields for more resources, or story chapter if you want to progress your story progression or just getting black cards

It's your choice as long as you spend them

[cursive slate]

i got everything in this patch now what do i spend these on 😭

[gritty shore]

U get 3x less serum and 3x less simu coins

[lime oriole]

i mean it is true that ppc skulls are fake generous since ss0 is the base minimum for everyone

[gritty shore]

Next patch

[willow umbra]

Hoard em

[atomic arch]

i said that wrong mb you still get 60 per serum you'll just get less simu points per serum in single patch

[lime oriole]

we all know fgo is the most generous gacha

[sinful rivet]

ok got it thanks
just confused because someone else said im gonna get less for it next patch

[atomic arch]

but why would i play fate when i could just read it 🤔

[atomic arch]

you get less packs

[ivory ermine]

Keep them because you won't realize how valuable that is until you need them

[willow umbra]

To a certain extent, sure, but this guy was arguing about the game in general

[sinful rivet]

time to dump it all on sim battlefield ig
and maybe use it to level up all my characters at level 79

[atomic arch]

you only miss what you no longer have...

[gritty shore]

If u spend them on simu on next patch u will get 3x less coins for it

[sinful rivet]

wait rly

[gritty shore]

Than if u spent them now

[lime oriole]

cause fgo is mostly not animated?

[cursive slate]

don't they expire next patch?

[sinful rivet]

apparently not

[atomic arch]

neither is pgr

[willow umbra]

No

[ivory ermine]

Simulated battlefield currency is permanent anyway

No reason to rush

[willow umbra]

They stay permanently now

That was changed a few updates ago

[gritty shore]

Wut

[lime oriole]

[gritty shore]

What reason to not rush

[lime oriole]

pull uniframes and build them

[atomic arch]

the timer is only for the limited shop (which is only slightly cheaper memories anyway)

[sinful rivet]

ok nice
so next patch we get x3 less serum capsules AND x3 less simu currency?

[gritty shore]

U may have last chance to get big coins per serum spent

[willow umbra]

Selena tempest my goat

[atomic arch]

yeah so 9x less simu currency

[lime oriole]

mid

[sinful rivet]

so should i mass buy some of them if i want to eventually get the good resonance skills?

[lime oriole]

camu my goat

[north peak]

But x3 more time so overall x3 difference

[ivory ermine]

I was talking about "rushing to spend all of the currency"

[north peak]

Meaning u still wanna dump everything this triple patch

[willow umbra]

she got better burst and sustained damage than camu

[ivory ermine]

They're permanent at this point

[cursive slate]

i thought they expire so i used them all on previous patch but ig i will save now

[sinful rivet]

oh shoot
ok imma go mass spend the serum

[gritty shore]

Dude gonna inject so much he will jump from 60 to 80 lvl

[atomic arch]

mass buy everything cuz you can regenerate natural serum but capsules will eventually be worth less

[sinful rivet]

kk

[atomic arch]

just dont spend the points now if you dont need them

[lime oriole]

camu has the best solo in siege out of the uniframes

[atomic arch]

just keep them in bank

[sinful rivet]

im lvl 85 i think

6000 serum spent = 200 clears
= idk how much xp

[atomic arch]

i did that and jumped from 92 to 94

[willow umbra]

You sure?

Selena has performed better in my experience

[hollow egret]

and ignored what i said, ok, i dont think that this is most generous, or at least it's really close to other gachas for the reasons i explained

[atomic arch]

logarithmic progressison is harsh 😭

is there any reward for reaching 120 btw

[gritty shore]

All those serum hoarders smh

[lime oriole]

5 ht mats

[willow umbra]

You get to start over at level 0

I think at least

havent reached it myself yet

[cursive slate]

the coins stay on next right?

[sinful rivet]

my bad i didn't know how much the x3 patch affected anything
as ive never experienced a normal patch yet

[atomic arch]

i was hoping for a profile border or smth

[atomic arch]

yea

[lime oriole]

YES

[gritty shore]

Brace yourself cuz winter is coming next week

[sinful rivet]

how did you get large text

[lime oriole]

the storm and winter at the same time

[icy zephyr]

Hahahha

[atomic arch]

put hashtag before text

[sinful rivet]

noooo
bruh the 90 daily mission BC has been my lifeline

[cursive slate]

y'all sure? like ong

[atomic arch]

like this

[sinful rivet]

oh ok cool

[sinful rivet]

#like this?

[worldly zealot]

yea 30ºC winter, feeling really jolly

[gritty shore]

Divide everything 3x

[icy zephyr]

U need a space

[sinful rivet]

interesting...

[lime oriole]

I KNEW HE WOULD FO THAT

[gritty shore]

3k weeklies? Now 1k

[icy zephyr]

The weeklies giving so much BC is so good

[lime oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-hahaha-gif-22505124

[cursive slate]

wait really?

[sinful rivet]

💳 will save me
...still f2p rn but not for long i think

[atomic arch]

i will miss 10 pulls per week

[cursive slate]

that's so low

[sinful rivet]

you also started the game this patch?

[atomic arch]

characters wont launch as frequently after sync so you'll be good

[gritty shore]

3x patch = 3x rewards Clueless

[cursive slate]

i started some months ago

[sinful rivet]

oh. alr then

[cursive slate]

like January

[iron mason]

ANYONE know how to not trigger veronica slash?

[sinful rivet]

then... wouldn't you know how much weekly missions give normally?

[atomic arch]

which slash

[cursive slate]

nope

[sinful rivet]

...

[gritty shore]

Deal 1000 bars in 1 hit

[atomic arch]

a grand

[sinful rivet]

no i meant
they were suprised at how low it was

[atomic arch]

dont multi phase bosses interrupt your damage anyway?

[atomic arch]

sync started a while ago so

[cursive slate]

i got 0 pgr knowledge, i take guidance from my friend who plays pgr (cn version)

[sinful rivet]

damn i should have started the game eariler

[iron mason]

so sherd memo proc?

[sinful rivet]

how much xp do my characters get for 200 simu battlefields get

i have some characters at levels 76-79 and want to maximise xp gains

[lime oriole]

virtually none

[sinful rivet]

... ok
i mean, it has worked so far to level up a couple chars

[atomic arch]

just buy xp packs bro

[sinful rivet]

with what

[atomic arch]

simu points?

[gritty shore]

Simu currency

[sinful rivet]

ok am i blind
i need to go reopen the game and check the simu shop

apparently aura basic units are there but i can't find them

[gritty shore]

Scroll to right

[lime oriole]

they are in the 2nd tab on the right

[sinful rivet]

ok what the heck
i never tried scrolling
because the first section only had 5 things and it didn't look like there was anything else...

thank you guys

[iron mason]

thanks

[gritty shore]

Arutimeto supektakuru yaaa

[sinful rivet]

9 seconds?

[iron mason]

nooooo

[gritty shore]

I do whole CR under 2 mins

[sinful rivet]

... it takes me like 2 minutes for some stages

[lime oriole]

brick

[sinful rivet]

i think maybe i am just bad
and have weak chars

[lime oriole]

just use lilick

[atomic arch]

bruh i spend 2 minutes just clicking the continue button

[sinful rivet]

?

oh yea also are the inver-shard missions worth it at all

[lime oriole]

no

if you mean the a rank things

[sinful rivet]

yea

how bad is it...?

[iron mason]

8 sec my record

[slender willow]

How do I acquire the sacred sword item in Recitativo di Fantasia

[cursive frigate]

Good day
Which cubs are currently worth to pull?
I got 20 cub pulls saved thanks to Norma war

[proven hamlet]

Pianissimo one right now, then Nanami and Wanshi's

[cursive frigate]

Noted

[lavish wind]

Alisa is so a**😭😭

[sinful rivet]

ok done
201 simu battlefield clears
only got lvl one characters to lvl 41 and like 75% way to lvl 42
this sucks

[cursive frigate]

Done
Hes maxed out
Only need to SS him through Norman currency

[dusty perch]

HOW

[cursive frigate]

Alisa may be outdated but she still a good support

[dusty perch]

HOW JUST 9 SECONDS?!?!?!?!

[sinful rivet]

wow i am out of serum now
this sucks

[dusty perch]

I WANNA KNOW HOW TO DO THAT

[sinful rivet]

apparently their record is 8 seconds

[dusty perch]

(even though I should probably be studying)

[lavish wind]

She keep NOT getting me 3 three orb dawg

[lime oriole]

1 tap her with whel nanami

[sinful rivet]

you were right, virtually no xp

[dusty perch]

I wanna see their nanamer

[lime oriole]

[iron mason]

https://youtu.be/rS2yd2tBzi8

[lavish wind]

Do i need sig for alisa just to be good?

[sinful rivet]

what is average simu currency per run?

[lime oriole]

[sinful rivet]

250?
i got about 51k currency from 201 runs

idk
anyways thanks for the help guys
imma go cry in the corner now that im out of serum and now that ive realized how cooked i am after x3 patch is over

[north peak]

That checks out because divide by 3 is about 83

That's around what it usually was

Well

Still is in cn

[sinful rivet]

so... hypotheically if i spent a bunch of serum on a-rank invershards
how badly did i- would i have messed up

[bold cedar]

What are the current best units for the vergil team?

[north peak]

a rank shards where

Sim shop?

[bold cedar]

I was suggested the guitar girl a while ago. Who is the other?

[sinful rivet]

the resources tab of battle

[north peak]

Oh

That's pretty bad

[lime oriole]

^

[north peak]

What a ranks would you be ranking up

[sinful rivet]

lets say
hypotheically
that i did 18 different ones every day for like 2 weeks

[bold cedar]

Does it really take 100k black cards to max vergil? I am currently at almost 20k

[north peak]

[lime oriole]

probably

[woeful scroll]

probably

[sinful rivet]

keep in mind this doesn't take into account not getting the weapon first try

[north peak]

Yeah 100k lol

[bold cedar]

162k? That's a lot

[sinful rivet]

so hypotheically if i did that i wasted like 15k serum?

[north peak]

[bold cedar]

I thought dante was free?

[night sinew]

Sorry for the basic questions but are some coatings limited or do they come back in some kind of way? (I'm not that knowledgeable on the game)

[sinful rivet]

so i wasted like 126k simu currency...
i am going to actuall kill myself

[north peak]

A single copy is free

[bold cedar]

Could you please tell me what is the vergil team?

[sinful rivet]

see top right

[lime oriole]

[sinful rivet]

one copy is free, hence the ss3 instead of just ss for the basic invest threshold

[sinful rivet]

in exchange i got 504 random a rank shards

... ok i messed up pretty badly

[lime oriole]

reset irl

[cursive slate]

am i the only one skipping the dmc patch

[lime oriole]

enough to sss+ 1.5 a ranks

[lime oriole]

no

[sinful rivet]

no
im at 1.3k BC

[sinful rivet]

except those 504 are spread across 18 different a ranks

[cursive slate]

i am saving for Bianca

[sinful rivet]

me.

[sinful rivet]

so is 504 a ranks shards better or 153 million cogs better (or just 126k simu currency)

ah s***
this is really bad

[lime oriole]

(enough to build 6 characters)

[sinful rivet]

i need a time machine.

[pastel spade]

whats the best weapon for alisa echo

[timid dune]

wasting 126k sim currency 💀

[iron mason]

sorry apparently officaly just 11s
only shared a 11s screen on tropy room
and not have screen shot the 8s

[lapis iron]

Why Gloria memo debuff won't show here

[sinful rivet]

126k sim currency worth of serum

[iron mason]

need to hit with whos on
if its on a qte bot its will a qte skill enought with him/her

[pearl laurel]

some debuffs/buffs don't show up cuz kusogames lazy to add them
gloria is one of those missing debuffs, if I remember right

4pc samantha and 4pc dv effect doesn't show either

[rich jewel]

Can you not get luna from tainted moonrise?

[safe agate]

Guys did pgr have their anniversary already ?

[vapid tree]

no is just the skin

[lapis iron]

Oh I see

I just want to know if eins and Gloria do stack

[pearl laurel]

they do stack, no worries there

[rich jewel]

@vapid tree 😦 I thought it was another free s rank. Especially with the way the story was building her up

[iron mason]

thats true
even never realised that

[north peak]

not including all icons is such a strange decision

[iron mason]

like glass core similar icon

even needed to check twice when i reso a memo

[lime oriole]

kuso too lazy to make an image for it so its not included

[strange plinth]

Hey all!

I'm home again:)
Is it a good time to come back in, I haven't played since lamia, pretty much missing all the key units...

[unique egret]

Hello home again:)

[strange plinth]

Just saw my girl Bianca new frame and had to come back

Ive heard a lot had changed, so it's going to be confusing as hell, any place to catch up?

[woeful sable]

do i need epitah sig wep for him to work?

[quick bronze]

other units have higher prio on sig then him

[rain fossil]

Anyone know teddy rotation?

[proud jay]

okkay so
new permanent events like Thunderous Manual and Insatiable Research
those give you a grand total of:
CW
CW's sig-weapon
CW's CUB
21: Feral
Lilith: Daemonissa
Lilith's sig-weapon
lilith's CUB

all for free
the missions for these also force you to revisist all the forms of regular content, so its a solid way to get backk into it

[sharp escarp]

Is jetavie good? I’ve gotten alotta of her shards

[lunar rampart]

Decent for newbies

[fresh burrow]

A rank

no good

[sharp escarp]

Should I just stick with Lucia cw then

[fresh burrow]

good for g o o ning tho

[sharp escarp]

Yes

[fresh burrow]

dump cw

[proven hamlet]

[orchid gate]

Besides Vergil and Dante Banners, what other banners are coming with the collab? Are they giving characters or weapon tickets as well?

[fresh burrow]

anniversary banner up to selena

[lunar rampart]

Wasn't it only Lilith

[tiny folio]

I thought I saw up to Lilith for global which kinda sucks compared to CN

[lunar rampart]

How so

[fresh burrow]

im pretty sure it's up to selena

[tiny folio]

I thought CN was up to Selena or I misheard?

[lunar rampart]

Global patch

The image I saw only went up to Lilick

[tiny folio]

Yeah same

[proud jay]

simce you get a free lilith (dark main-dps), Jetavie will be a good dark sub-dps for her

[tiny folio]

It’s literally the same as CN but no Selena which would’ve been super nice

[orchid gate]

How does the anniversary banner work? What tickets are used in it?

[lunar rampart]

Black cards

[normal night]

This you mean?

[tiny folio]

Ah damn so it doesn’t use any of the yellow/blue tickets?

[lunar rampart]

No

[tiny folio]

Holy I’m so fried

My Dante gonna be found dead in a ditch cuz I’m pulling Vergil’s stuff first

[fresh burrow]

ah damn. so it is up to lilick.

[normal night]

Yeah.

[fresh burrow]

nanami is still in there, so there's that

[orchid gate]

Nice, going for Lucia to finish my fire team. Since I'm a low spender I don't think this collab is really worth it for me.

[rich jewel]

I'm new to PGR, can anyone tell me how many copies of both Dante and Virgil I would need total to get SSS rank?

Is it even worth trying to get them to SSS rank?

[fresh burrow]

are you f2p?

[rich jewel]

@fresh burrow yes

[tiny folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1383785490360172584/1400574759804207135/dmc-collab-total-bc-v0-qxleymx54vaf1.png?ex=688d2264&is=688bd0e4&hm=237dc9e2d2cdf14adf38e61c385ba89d4d445966d11bd0f5eb2e2f54eb230766&

Good luck

[fresh burrow]

then dont go SSS

you cant

unless really lucky

but even then

you're bricking your account

if you go all in

[normal night]

Not if they go to SSS.

[tiny folio]

Same thing was said with the Nier Automata collab I assume?

[lunar rampart]

No

[rich jewel]

Oh wow. Okay I did NOT realize how much BC I would need to do that. I will just get them to SS and be satisfied with their weapons.

[fresh burrow]

enjoy your DMC then

[lunar rampart]

Nier collab was crazy op

[normal night]

Nier was a different situation, nier was meta everywhere and we had time to see nier progress.

[lunar rampart]

And they received so much hate for making collab units so strong

[proud jay]

lmfao no
If you skipped nier, you were locked out of all competetive content for ages

Terrible mistake, that
Now they’re trying not to repeat it
Going well

[lunar rampart]

For now

[rich jewel]

I underestimated how money hungry a gacha game can be lol

[normal night]

Yeah, using Nier for that whole year and a bit was so depressing.

Nier was actually exactly like the DMC collab, it was cheap to SSS A2 who was the main unit. @rich jewel (cheap in comparison to SSSing A PGR unit)

[umbral grail]

what is the clash reflection extra rewards for clearing under 120 seconds

only operators?

[fresh burrow]

dmc is expensive if you want them to be SSS even with that discount.
also, they're only good at their own affix. for their ele? nah

[lunar rampart]

You can move on to the next stage

And get even more rewards

[rich jewel]

I wasn't aware of PGR at the time the nier collab was happening. Hopefully they bring it back someday cause I'd love to play with those characters. Of course without them breaking the game lol

[fresh burrow]

they wont

[lunar rampart]

No reruns

Too expensive

[rich jewel]

😦

[lunar rampart]

They already had one before

[tiny folio]

It’s a one time thing just like almost everything else

And I’m sure they’re powercrept since then

[lunar rampart]

They have been powercrept to absolute oblivion

[fresh burrow]

just like that girl i met in italy

[normal night]

Oh they don't compare to the new phys team.

[tiny folio]

So is the reason DMC is considering “bricking” because they simply aren’t as valuable as Selena and Vera?

[lunar rampart]

Kinda

[rich jewel]

So specifically for f2p players like me, what's a reachable rank to aim for characters to clear most content without being locked out of content?

[lunar rampart]

SS

[tiny folio]

Is there a character that’s better at Dante’s job at ignition?

[lunar rampart]

Not at executing it

[fresh burrow]

they force f2ps that are fans of DMC to skip meta units because of FOMO

[normal night]

"Bricking" is such a loose term but they aren't as valuable because they are mainly affix units at SS.

[lunar rampart]

Oh for goodness sake

Just realising my phone wasn't plugged in the entire night

[normal night]

Oof rough.

[lunar rampart]

Guess I'm not playing pgr

[tiny folio]

I’m guessing the term is also used in this case because once the event is over there’s no way to continue getting resources for them

[fresh burrow]

[rich jewel]

So specifically for f2p players like me, what's a reachable rank to aim for in order for characters to clear most content without being too weak?

[normal night]

There is also that, Affix content itself is very limited right now as well. Hero/Legend WZ and Ultimate PPC/Intensive battle, that's pretty much the only content they have.

[fresh burrow]

SS

[rich jewel]

@fresh burrow thank you!

[fresh burrow]

you pull 1 copy

you rank them to SS using skulls

[normal night]

You can't use PPC skulls to SS them.

[fresh burrow]

im not talking about dmc

[tiny folio]

Well yeah but you get the free copy of the character so it makes up for it

[celest condor]

is 4pc Barcelo/2pc cottie still the main dps build for lilith?

[rich jewel]

So should I go for pianissimo before she's gone? Is she part of the main game?

[fresh burrow]

she is

[normal night]

Even when she is Sub dps, that's still her current build.

[tiny folio]

Kinda sucks for Dante though you get the free copy but miss on his potential because you have to pull for SS

[normal night]

He gets SS3 instead which is fine.

[celest condor]

or more...

[tiny folio]

is SS Dante more valuable than S Dante + sig and cub?

[rich jewel]

@fresh burrow so I can just get pianissimo later when her banner comes back again?

[fresh burrow]

reruns are usually 70/30. it means you can lose

[normal night]

She will come back later but we don't know when exactly...that will be in a 70% banner which isn't really recommended to pull on.

[fresh burrow]

so it is never really recommended to be pulling on rerun banners unless you're ready for the consequence of losing

[celest condor]

isn't the ani banner up to pianissimo on JP server?

[normal night]

It is but not for us based on what Kuro has shown, it's up to Lilith.

[fresh burrow]

kuro racist istg

[rich jewel]

@normal night so would it be wise to pull her once now while she is guaranteed?

[normal night]

We can hope its a mistake I suppose but thats in the DMC vid they shown.

[fresh burrow]

yes

[tiny folio]

Realistically it’s best to prioritize Selena and Vera first since they’re more valuable

[normal night]

Yes ofc, unless PGR goes EOS or they RAMP up power creep next anniversary/half anni if we get that, she should still be meta xD

[tiny folio]

Plus Vera works well with Dante if you care about that

[fresh burrow]

yeah dante is vera's dog now

[celest condor]

honest question, is what separates gen 3 units from gen 2 is them having affixes and the others need leap to have them?

[tiny folio]

Fr and Vera is good for like 4 teams atm 💀

[rich jewel]

I have Vera already luckily. It costs what, 15k BC for a guaranteed pull on pianissimo right now?

[fresh burrow]

yep

[tiny folio]

unless you get lucky yeah

[celest condor]

darkflow content when😬

[normal night]

Generations themselves aren't character specific, its based on the roles: EG: Nanami Pulse (gen1) - Nanami mech (gen2)and Watanabe: EPH (Gen3)- All fire tanks.

Kuro hasn't said this, this is community thing.

[rich jewel]

I guess I have one last question then. Do we know how long the DMC event will last for?

[peak torrent]

does dante really need ss3 and vergil his sig for working k? or theyre fine at s+cub sigless (dante) and ss sigless (vergil)?

[fresh burrow]

should last for 42 days

[celest condor]

that makes sense

[fresh burrow]

for styling, no.

[mystic sleet]

but to ss3 dante you only need to pull him once right since we gonna get him 1 for free in the story ? (or twice i don't remember)

[proud jay]

also not true
Everyone has their own definitions for gen’s, so i would heavily advise against using the term
Like, the definition you described taka, is actually one that only a minority uses

[fresh burrow]

ye

[tropic nymph]

Quick question: my Lucia pyroath’s weapon is enhanced to the max, resonated with dead line timing, glorious afterglow, and incandescence.
I’ve harmonized her weapon to lvl one but ngl idk what that means. Can someone explain? And also, what does bind memory do? And what should I put on pyroath’s weapon for it?

[proud jay]

just causes a lot of confusion

[normal night]

Hmm really? I thought this was what everyone used for generations.

Mb then.

[gusty ridge]

What's the pull priority for DMC?

[peak torrent]

💔 does vergil really want ss+sig and dante ss3+cub?

[mystic sleet]

so if we pull for them each, it will end up with ss3 dante and ss vergil

[fresh burrow]

what most use gen for is:
gen 2: units with TLC
gen 3: units with TLC and Affix

but yes, this is just a community thing. it's best not to bother with it

[fresh burrow]

i mean are you competitive or no? coz the answer depends there

[fresh burrow]

yes

[peak torrent]

if you mean tryharding or getting high scores or complex rotations not rlly, i only want to clear the content for rewards and thats all

[fresh burrow]

oh then any invest works

[peak torrent]

ight nice, ig ill get ss vergil and dante's cub cuz i wanna get bianca and maybe pyro too

or just ss vergil for not risking it

[fresh burrow]

yeah, i wouldnt really recommended hyperinvesting on DMC units if you dont whale and arent competing in WZ and PPC

[gusty ridge]

What investment should f2ps stop at?

[fresh burrow]

pull 1 copy each, 1 copy of weapon each, and maybe cub (optional)

[gusty ridge]

ok thanks

[fresh burrow]

you get +1 copy for pulling 1 copy. so it's like 2 copies from the get-go

[mystic sleet]

i wanna know, back then collab with nier and BRS, does the gacha is the same like the DMC one ?

[celest condor]

could someone explain how ultima awaken and infinitas awaken work?

for example if there's a character like lilith which only uses blue orbs, does she need infintas to get ONLY blue orbs at the beginning or would ultima automatically convert all those 3 RNG orbs to blue