#📨・general-help
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Check out a YouTube channel called “Spider2B” he goes into detail on how to use which character, which team they go with and so on
Start alisa(make sure she's fully leaped)
Swap wanshi > 3p > hold dodge > spam red orb until 12 shots > ult
Swap to selena > 3p > hold basic(keep holding it) > matrix ping > ult > hold dodge > 6 concerto orbs(the white ones) > hold dodge > ult
Make sure you use alisa's qte during the second hold dodge to extend the glaciation timer, otherwise it runs out
guild siege participation and what not
I can also make video rotation if you want
Im curious with three schools is the best?
hi im new, i remember coming here to pull and got these characters, i left a while after, is there any current banner that i should pull? these are the ones im using
i honestly dont remember what those do by the icon
I'm gonna see if I can make it work with their normal builds cause I ain't building an extra set of mems for both wanshi and alisa rn 💔
but u just usually get buffs so u can never swap
solo school, energy recharge, alpha and time beyond
Wanshi works with liston/eins
Alisa wants 4dv4guin however
see that's the thing I'm flat broke rn don't think I'll have the simscore to reso a second alisa set
^ ye since its not phys u dont need her signa set for glaciation
Depends on the boss and what units are available
Sometimes solo is better, sometimes you want to swap
Ok that makes sence
always solo
its a bit annoying cos its a lot of pressing same thing for like 4minutes long xD
does Crushing waves, awakening Tundra, etc reset?? or its just once and then done?
Once
damn, my voucher income..
also where does Cub and weapons tickets from?? i had 37k BC but barely have 1k or so of those
1 month player
weapons and cubs only matter if you care about ppc/wz
and you should really
if you care about those 
Events give maybe one or two weapon pulls
Cub tickets farm from norman revival plan
oh, i forgot about Norman, Norman always reset right?
but some units are necessary to have signature, no?
basically all new s-ranks want their sigs
but if you're f2p, you don't have the bc for that
unless long-time, lucky veteran f2p player
not really, you don't need sigs for any normal content
Best team against cardle ppc?
Nanami
and you can limp through ppc/wz for basic income without sigs just fine
Preferably with Luna and your best non physical amp excluding lilith
What other members and rotation?
alright
You have to make up your own
cardle
Lilith
Lucia SSS or nanam SS?
Nanami
Both
It's a lithtning boss, Lucia won't do sht

Its sss0
Crimson weave
Why do u think pyro in a light boss
Alpha also lucia
I feel like SSS Lucia = SS nanami
anything good i should pick?
feral+startrail+garnet
Nah
Garnet is a surprise
shes called alpha
Crimson weave
Well I won't compare different element characters it doesn't make sense
qtebot
we've all seen enough people try this tho lol
I'm trying to unlock intensive battle what score should aim for in each difficulty
But it does
Generaly lucia is the gray raven lucia
Alpha is the acentant one
imagine I say "21+nanami+vera" and someone makes a team with XXI+Storm+rozen 💀
this is why calling startrail nanaknight is superior
??
Bruh
bro can't do math 💔
I meant in those difficulties hell chaos and the other one
I didn't say stages i said difficulties
No need to act smart
well I'd assume something like 340k on hell
170k on chaos
and like 88k on knight or smth
actually a bit higher that only adds up to 598
Wait ss0 nanamy cant 600 cradle
what combo did you guys use on Lilith?
For where?
combo as in rot or what
As in card number for hell ppc
3
I'm an unoptimized loser running a cope dark team so 5
Did 54, but it looks like it can be optimized 
2 cant kill it
3 overkill
So take that 3

i know i asked this before but i forgot
aside from feral and nanami, who do i use on lightning team if my cw has bad invest?
and with what build
I used 4dv 2 eins on CW with 4 sam 2 gui on feral
Sorry i guess u had ss0 or ss3 lilith
SS3, yeah
Which ur support?
would it be better to use the 6 star weapon resonator with nanami: Startrail's weapon instead of using it on Alpha: CW's six star weapon?
is it confirmed that selena is going to be on the anni banner? dont wanna risk missing her cuz i wanna use my savings on dmc before pulling her and nanami (from the thunderbolt reseaech)
Ishmael on 4 Sothot 4 Cottie and Luna on 2 Gloria 4 DV 2 Eins
I start with 1 Ishmael rota then finish the rest with Lilith
Uhhh
i dont remember but i dont think so
Selena'll be in anniversary banner afaik, but she's the last that banner goes to
No scire?
oh nice
Nop 
Rip
why would it go further kek nothing would have released other than collab chars
hope that selena rlly appears on the anni banner otherwise my acc gets bricked 💔✌️
there is nothing further it COULD go to
actually yeah its vera who wont be in the banner, right?
since selena technically launched 3 patches prior to anni
yeeeee
man im kind of regretting not picking pyroath from thunderbolt because my fire team is still so poopoo 
Also u bathlon less
And not really needs to use ish onfield so could 4 soth and 4 any shreds mem
Even with Vera?
L bozo
even? i ONLY have vera
vera is enough for fire
lemme try that
without sig or cub?
5.5m?
I got like 3m with ss0 + sig but that's just casually following a double rot with her and pyroath no cancelling stuff
no bc
I guess 5m is acceptble cope
also ss0 i mean like luna and 3s wanshi 
I got 45k bc which is worth to get more in dmc collab
so youre cooked if its literally solo vera
solo vera means solo vera
i literally have no one else on fire
solo means with luna zaza
when I said solo vera I really meant just her
Vera with complete fire team gets to 7-8m
she's still playable without zaza her rot is same
even wo sig her rot us same
way slower if you're doing over 3 rots tho
memory 4 sig 2 cottie
https://youtu.be/OJtcBtxqg3g I do this rot
#punishinggrayravenglobal #vera #pgrwarzone #nanami #startrail #pgrgameplay #luna #oblivion #herowarzone #pgrglobal #pgr
luna is top 2 priority from anni it seems
luna is a life saver for new players
Solo means us solo dps with 2 supports (whos u never swap)
yea and those 2 supports are A ranks so it's still really bad
A ranks or S rank
Not matter dmg wise them unusable
But them buff ur main carry
You'd still want a gen 3 tank res shred tho
Luna zaza makes it possible with Nanami or Wanshi 
but i dont have her 😭 she wasnt on banner when i started playing
will the dmc cub banenrs be 100%
Hey I'm looking at a wiki for memory resonance, but I don't know what 'class skill level+1' means, can anyone tell me? I don't know if it means or ping skills or basic attack.
yes
same rules as regular banners
also means 2 off rate sigs in weap banner
it means "class skill level" resonance
thats what it's called

No, its the class skil (res shred for tanks or dmg buff + atk for amps)
See in common skill tab
@atomic arch but when I use the item that allows you to choose which resonance you want, it doesn't appear as an option
its on bottom resonance
It's ok we just gotta not lose 
do we know which ones they are?
The other sparda brother's weapon and luna oblivion weapon
they really want you to get both twins huh
@atomic arch oh my God I feel so stupid 😂 I thought top and bottom went the slots for memories my bad. TYSM
U i guess tried to use it on upper row
Glass is on bottom row
yeah when it says "bottom resonance" it means lower resonance
@atomic arch @iron mason yep I sure did try to use it on top resonance not realizing there was a difference lol! Oh well I know now!
Can I get the Alpha skin or am I cooked?
You are cooked
you're cooked, baked, fried, sautéed
sorry bud
better luck next time
Damn 😔
no worries though you'll probably be able to get that for 68 rc later 

Nah ain't paying anything. Got no money
Its collab skin
TBF not that I use Alpha that much anyway (No 21, Bridget and Noctis Main rn)
use 21 noctis and vera
Or is in cn could buy?
See
That's the neat part
I don't have Vera
idk i made the price up
vera rozen 
Guess I know who to get from my a rank selector now
Watanabe leap'll only be available in Bianca patch?
seems like it
since it'll launch with discord iirc
I see
anyone know why would i want to fill all 4 bases?
In 2 patches basically
so your constructs have a place to rest
Does it any additional reward??
yeah but not something you really need
more happy residents -> more dorm coins and gifts
Does it give more dispatch certificates??
no
Ok
you do need dorm coins to upgrade the comission level tho
i.e. unlock more comissions each day and more teams to dispatch at once
but not much needed tho
if you have 2 dorms built you'll probably have enough
Should I use harmony accelerator on Tonitrus or should I get Echo sig? 
tonitrus is free so
unless echo sig has some banger off rate weapons
Not at all
Haicma and CW sigs
- I don't have fire team
- My best team is lighting with Nanami Startrail SS3 + Sig
In fire war zone, which one is better to use, Nanami's lightning damage or ignition damage?
Jetavie sig is the one who has insane off-rates, Nanami and Pyro's
Ignition damage, she can shred fire resistance there
Vera sig offrates are nice too
Yep
Can you elaborate a bit on this
How does shredding fire resistance work for ignition?
Its in her kit, if she has active ignition marks, she shreds fire res instead of lightning res

Astral Armament - Structural Meltdown
When Startrail deals damage using the Shield Axe, enemies will be weakened.
- Applies a Turbulence Interference effect to enemies, reducing their Lightning Resistance by 25% for 2s.
- If a Blazing Mark is active when dealing damage, it will instead apply a Scorching Invasion effect to enemies, reducing their Fire Resistance by 25% for 2s.
here
No fire damage dealer tho
Is fire resistance affect ignition damage?
no vera? no pyroath?
vera's is also pretty good, ld and solacetune
it be like that sometimes..
brick
No

saving for dmc and ignoring the support for dante's team is crazy


My my got a slacking bracket again 
Going to legend with solo Selena without Hanying
I mean the issue is already stated here
- I don't have fire team
- My best team is lighting with Nanami Startrail SS3 + Sig
In fire war zone, which one is better to use, Nanami's lightning damage or ignition damage?
If it make you any better, yeah I'm saving
nanami wont deal any damage in fire warzone. she only shreds fire resistance. so yea you're cucked in fire warzone.
That's better answer than earlier
brick city, brick city
Curious how u ended up with ss3 nana but no vera
but tbh if ur not in hero or above ur prob better off just doing lightning
🧱🧱🧱🧱
Even with dlt I dont think you'll have enough orbs to do ignition nana consistently for enough fire dmg
Thunderbolt mission pull, newbie pulls, and PPC skull
Oh, you didnt grab anyone else?
Or are u just going for dante?
I know you guys meant to joke but keep repeating the same brick jokes every time is tasteless
Even more in this channel when people going for help

So how fried is the fire team if you have Vera and Epitaph but not Pyroath?
I'm not even sure who's to pull tbh
not that bad tbh
I don't got a clue when I'm getting her
I mean, there isn't much to do, there's literally no one todo fire dmg
you can cope with vera shakes-cottie
hanying if ur going for vergil ig
Esp when idk I don't have Solacetune and Shukra
I'm just saving until gen4 perhaps lol
Not bad, Vera can solo or you can do Watanabe and Vera and someone else to be QTE bot
if wanshi ss he can carry
I really want Solacetune for Vergil don't I...
Yes
shukra you can get in bianca patch
solacetune from thunderbolt if you really need her over pyroath
there's anniv banner
Then there's me, who picked Luna in basic and Nanami in thunderbolt, pulling for Pyroath and Solacetune in anniv banner 
I got nana vera and hanying on my dmc only acc so I'm ok there at least 
Wish I started playing like a month earlier to take advantage of the extra rewards
yeah but if they're pulling dmc they might not have enough ykwim
i know i wont 
with i started playing 2 years earlier
I started on the exact final day in order to get the Alpha CW coating if I don't miss a day
this is the issue with collab units
. it's bricking all players due to fomo 
but you see, anni doesn't have fomo since its every year 
lowkey I might pull dmc just because of sunk cost fallacy
Why?
Please what build is recommended for my fire team?
I have Pyroath at SS with 1r Sig
Vera at SS with Sig no reso yet
Wata at S With no Sig
cuz i started playing for them so it'd be weird for me to do all this work and then skip them
it's like spending 2 months learning guitar and then buying a violin ykwim
S Wata? You got nanami?
get wata ss
nvm i just saw you were asking for the build itself
pyroath - 4 heraclitus 4 cottie
vera - 4 dv 4 guin
wata - 4 alphonse 2 eins
Wouldn't Vera do more dmg with 4 Shakespeare? He has sig 
Got wata from this patch selector so he's still down there. I have nanami at SS with 1r Sig and cub
Or is it due to the lack of Da Vinci in the team?
nowhere to put dv other than her
Yeah
besides, she is fine on dv
I can guess I will not be the first or last person to ask this but who is worth out of the first s rank omniframe choice you get? (sorry for sending this probably obious questions)
Yeah... Just wanted to know what I can use on them for now cuz my fire team is my worst team currently. I needed something that can work now.
Unfortunately I don't think I feel like investing in wata since he may be replaced maybe this year
The option of 5 frames?
yes
since selena is supossed to stay on the anniversary banner, do i pull her first or pull on the thunderbolt research banner for nanami? i want to get atleast ss vergil and maybe sig tho but idk if i can get enough for everything, rn i have +11k bc and i got some content left to farm (im lvl 68 commander)
rn i only have vera wata and solacetune
he's getting leap soon so you'll at least use him for something
Leap? Damn. Maybe I'd SS him at least. May I assume weapon ain't relevant at this point?
idk but probably not
still relevant if you wanna compete
not as much as vera's at least
Alright... Lemme do so now
I'm purely f2p so I think I'd save my BC if that's the case. I'd manage my Hero rank till whenever
yeah as f2p, getting units are priorities over getting sigs
Are these limited event stuff or nah?
Nah... They are permanent but that first one refreshes
Its permanent, Norman Revival Plan resets every 15 days tho
Ohh oke thx
You could use her instead but idk I might be biased cuz I hated playing wata at s 
they're always there but you only get their rewards once (its a lot of stuff though)
What is a support character?
norman, on the other hand, updates biweekly though
a character that's on the team to provide buffs to the main damage dealer, usually through qte
You mean like amps and healers or like support characters in norman?
if i only have solacetune wata and vera do i prioritize getting nanami over selena? i still have the thunderbolt research avaliable
Tough choice
Honestly, if you are going to get Vergil in the next version update of DMC collaboration, he can work as your Physical dps alongside Solacetune rather than just Solo dps solacetune
In that case, you can get Startrail from the Thunderbolt research
tbh i might just get ss vergil for collection since they said he isnt to be that good on meta, so maybe if i farm enough i could get him+selena and nanami later cuz the research is perm ig
Ha... I see. I would love to use nanami anyday and time but PPC restricts me sometimes then Nanami herself is too good and used in alot of teams
Good point
although idk if to get selena now since i have 10 pity on the featured banner or wait for the anni banner (they dont share pity i think)
since i wanna get vergil before her
Ah wata for ppc is fine, pyro and vera doing most of the work there anyways 
I about to play the story mode so excited✨️
I have a question about
Are there gonna be voice overs or just reading all the story
will trial of simulacrums come back?
Most of it is just reading iirc
Sad
hi fellow f2ps
is it known how much will vergil need his sig or can i cope with ss
i dont think risking my selena pulls is worth his sig
In next patch, dmc version tho
Besides damage increase, his signature weapon provides you access to weapon resonance skills
- permanent
phew... that's a relief. i forgot and missed it
With Deadline Timing weapon resonance skill, Vergil can consistently do 2 rotation per swap in ultima slash
oh 😭 ig selena is still more important?

Without his signature weapon, Vergil can only do 1 rotation
Yes

Pianissimo is more useful because she's used in multiple different team
Vergil is only good for Ultima slash
ill use the leftover pulls on his sig then
cuz i can get nanami anytime on the thunderbolt research
although i might be cooked for ignition bc i dont think sigless s dante is going to do something
Unfortunately tho I think u still missed the rewards from this ver 
I guess either Shukra or Solacetune is being left to the Thunderbolt research. Who to get over the other idk all I know is Solace is important for physical and ultima while Shukra is essential for ice
thats fine!! i only want the nametags there. its still nanami crimson weave and hanying right?
Shukra will be on selector in bianca patch
Aight so Solace is being left for the Thunderbolt then
Getting shafted until after DMC
Who worth it SSS Lilith or Wanshi?
Which sorta sucks considering both Selena and Vergil want her on their teams
Wanshi 1st
Then lilith

I think it's the sparda brothers and vera next time, not too sure myself I've only seen a glimpse
What does ss3 oblivion do
Then her ss

what does the assessment manual shard choice gives?
just shards? or the actual frame?
just shards
thanks
Who should I pick?
just whoever you need shards the most for
since you already have qu and wata
out of curiosity, How come Lilith doesn’t have some of the cool moves that boss Lilith has? Like throwing cards or hurling her umbrella to spin around?
I don't have Hyperreel at all should I get him?
Nope
Only Shukra and Epitaph that's really valuable in the blissful s rank selector
Maybe Scire if you have her signature weapon
I have SS3 Scire
Otherwise, if you already own both Shukra and Epitaph, you can get Epitaph dupe for his SS3 rank upgrade
he is very good for meta
if youre not getting him for meta then dont get him at all
It's good because it increases Epitaph Fire resistance reduction by another 10%
It's a team wide boost
SS3 rank Shukra is damage increase after casting her Core Passive
Which is mostly just a personal upgrade
test
make sure you check what level your characters already are, they max out at different points
it's in this screen
sounds about right, all of the alternative interpretation game modes give 4-5 levels per run
not sure about the run length though, i havent done dfm in a long time

was that 2.0x vs 2.5x? idr
i think i was doing 2.5x when i did it, but it's up to you i guess, i'm not sure how much longer it takes you
i always did the longest routes though but it's probably better to just spam the short route on 2.5x
alright thanks @robust flax! I think I'm gonna stick on 2.0x lol
How to unlock darkflow vera
hold ult
Ss3?
It's didn't work
Lemme try again
select darkflow as affix also
but you should still be able to enter df mode regardless
Ty bro it's worked
hold ult for darkflow seems to be the new thing
yo i just started the game cuz its gona have a dmc collab is it true?
with wata leap and vera
both being identical to fire forms
the only difference is press vs hold ult
selena also has a hold ult to enter affix mode
it is but its not great frankly
but you never notice cause wanshi activates glacio
Yes I forgot cuz I got her after pianissimo and forgot how to play haha🤣
why?
If you are playing purely for dmc collab we’d simply tell you to go play dmc instead

nah nah i was planning to play this
for a bit cuz i heard it had good combat
but its mostly that the dmc collab kinda pushed my lazy ahh to finally start it
really? thats what i heard from my friend nari and speck
endgame boils down to press the same buttons in order to do max dmg for dps check
Yall who's gonna skip DMC for bianca
all endgames is just timer based stuff
i am
is the game worth starting rn
Me too I love mommy Bianca 😋🤤
dam its that bad?
well that sucks ;/
The devs keep make questionable decisions day after day 
you can have a lot of fun with casual play

even tho you are kinda forced to meta
questionable decisions are putting it lightly tho lol
ah dam really i was expecting it be like wuwa since wuwa is pretty f2p friendly and easy to start for new players
unlike wuwa this game has a good gacha system
true but atleast they doing stuff for new players
?
is the pity low or the odds high or
ok but that doesn’t count because people keep trying to gamble arrival
they’re addicted to being brainless
That's on them
100% rate with pretty low pity
The game expects you to get every non free s rank as a consequence
Yeah
The worst it gets is 70/30 on arrival which you never should do
80/20 on weapons
so when a char just comesout its a 70/30 and lateron becomes a 100%?
And weapons at only 30 pity unlike the fkass 80 or 90 or whatever in wuwa
100% on release
opposite
oNLY 30???
70/30 scam banner arrival
WHAT
Occasionally other 100% rates with wishing and anniv banners
debut banner is 100%
reruns are 70%/30% except for 2 times a year wher they’re 100%
NEVER roll reruns
There is a tradeoff
but 1 major question tho how bad is the pull farming
unless you are pure pure casual
You have to roll everyone new
There is no such thing as skipping
i am mostly casual ya
is the next patch just DMC collab or is new bianca in it too
Just dmc
story doesn’t let you use your own characters past chapter 10~ or so
i never really got into much of the endgame stuff
Ch16 forces trial units
just events building chars and story is mostly what i do in gachagames or some stages of the tower
Endgame in PGR is literally the only content once you’re done with story
events are the cheap ass minigames or maybe randomly a combat event
Story forces trial units so you can’t even enjoy your own units
oh dam
just try playing tbh. try to get crimson weave asap, she has a very fun gameplay that might hook you into wondering what more the game has to offer. pgr isn't like those games like wuwa, hsr, and genshin which gives you an explosive amount of things. pgr was just really specifically designed for people to play long-term so it relies on weeklies
so i have to forcefully pull for EVERYONE?
do u happen to have the bc needed for each invest level for the collab or no
The best way to casually enjoy your units is to fight bosses in celicas class 
if you wish to participate in endgame at all yes
you are expected to have everyone
so if someone starts new are they cooked?
since yk a LOT of units missing
And fight bosses over and over again 
pgr players are crazy

the endgame here is pretty different btw
also its half pvp cuz its leaderboard/score competition based among your server

wait question tho how hard is it farm rerolls
not worth it
Takes too long
Your standard banner has 100% rateup once
since i just started idk if i can even saveup enough pulls for dmc
Also I’m sorry to say but DMC is also technically
alr i worded it wrong
i meant pull
one of the least useful things a new player should ever get
pgr gives you enough pull to guarantee that you get every new character at their release. the real struggle is farming their shards to make them stronger
though imo, pgr is best played casually. i have an account where i slave over meta and another one where i really just play casually and go for characters that i truly like
and i'm having more fun in the casual account
wait wa why
like if you want to play pgr outside of dmc collab itself
This is an unfortunate time to start because we're at the end of a triple patch, you need two units to get urgently, and the next patch is a single
Lol
You shouldn’t be rolling the dmc units
Cooked
u cant use them for endgame?
Kuro wants to milk their playerbase ofc
They're just too expensive for what they are
too niche to be worth it when other options exist that cover far more endgame teams
lmao i love how vera is now the main fire dps
aw :C
You can. Just extremely suboptimal depending on where you use them plus invest
alao the content you’d see dmc used in is pretty far into the endgame ranking
Also their teammates are equally important
Please cook 18 mil fire 
alr so who are the chars i gota pull for rn
and yeah their teammates are super important
expecting them to solo dps would fall flat instantly
do you guys think there will be a huge number of players who will quit pgr after 3x synch because they got spoiled during it

i whine alot
70% of gacha game players in general are whiny babies tbh
@rich orchidbtw so who do u think i need to pull for rn first
Nanami Startrail from standard banner
Crimson Weave and Feral scent are free
startrail and geiravor
Probably vera geiravor using your event tickets/bc
^
If you really want to use dante, she's one of his most important teammates
no - but it’s going to be a slow process, especially after the sync. I think you can skip one or two units and still be fine in the endgame, as long as you’ve completed every single team
what is the sync
anyway i hear ppl talk about here what is that
the global server was about a year behind the cn server. the sync combines patches on the global server to catch it up
tldr this game’s China server started first
Global server started a lot later
so they had the bright idea of rushing 2-3 cn patches per global patch duration to catch up to CN
"i think you can skip one or two units and still be fine"
wow thanks, i'll skip dante and vergil 
F2P income was increased accordingly but all spending packs etc weren’t
so pianissimo, daybreak, and geiravoir would be 3 seperate patches (over apprx 4 months). but bcs of the sync theyre all combined into just one
this game has a LOT of stuff going on ay
the more you know
Right now, yeah
too much its too different from the genshin formula games
You will 999% have a culture shock playing this
both for good and bad reasons

lets hope there is more good then bad
who’s gonna tell him /s
I mean tbf if you’re casual you’ll see less of the bad side
but its definitely still there and getting more prominent over time
only good thing that happened is.....
the biggest bad thing ingame imo is mental ages. they make no sense and make the game weird if u take them seriously
its so ironic my casual (an account i labelled as brick cuz i pulled pyroath instead of startrail in the standard banner) account might actually become much better than my meta account long-term wise just because i pulled ishmael in 11 pity 
hmmm
No not even
that’s a minor detail
one of the first "off" thing i noticed as a new player atleast 
The game’s story itself goes too far into technobabble time travel alternate universe with villain of the week slop

oh yes story wise
get ready to say "ok sure why not" a lot

wat the
you start to run out of ideas after 6 years
lol but seriously - I know everyone keeps saying you can’t skip new units if you want to stay relevant, but I think it’s still fine to skip a few, as long as you’ve completed all your teams
new players don’t have a lot of characters, but that doesn’t mean they’re bricked right - so missing one or two as an older player shoudn't be a big deal either
“fine to skip a few” is uh
Its only really applicable to DMC
Dam they made the collab units that mid ay
i mean theyre quite good in their affix teams. just reliant on other units and only good for those specific teams
Hello
What’s the difference between Themed event and Fate themed construct?
And anyone in those banners worth getting rn for DPS?
just not a good allocation of resources
dmc too expensive for f2ps
dont do fate.
Are there any packs worth whaling for in the upcoming patch
Fate is 1% increase in rates while making you spend about 1.5x currency in the worst case scenario
Basically, never pull fate as f2p
Oooh
Understood
Well ig I skip the dmc collab then sadly and pull for the meta units rn
If you're a spender
Maybe the 30 shard pack of dante/vergil for like 299 rc iirc 
in the past year lets review all the new non collab S ranks
Bianca - Obliterates Lamia + needed for new Element
Vera - Literally cornerstone of several teams and can work as fire main dps
Selena - Free Glacio teammates, needed for 2 elements
Ishmael - Nihil Main DPS + good filler unit for other elemental comps
Startrail - Literally quadruple meta, the most relevant and long lived unit in meta this game will EVER have
Pyroath - Meta attacker for 2 elements
Lilith - least impactful meta unit in the year but she’s entirely free including signature and cub so moot point
Literally none of them have been “skippable”
Only DMC’s niche usage allows you to skip them
especially since they’re sandwiched between other S ranks and most people don’t have spare BC for them if they plan efficiently
$50 for a dupe copy of vergil/dante or smth
you get dante for free at least ignore that he needs at least SS
Are Vera or Selena strong?
Worth pulling?
My only good DPS is Lucia

yes, yes, and yes
So he needs copys?
all new debut S ranks = strong
Absolutely
Bet
oh yeah so basically this game is basically
Every unit needs 1 dupe for some basic functionality qol
non collab units can grind out a free copy from endgame
but collab units can’t so
pretty much all S-ranks want SS, its just that dante's and vergils SS arent free
Its a bit wack
which is annoying
but other non collab units have basically a free dupe if you participate in endgame
and grind it over time
work work
$50 for a dupe huh
some units only work in one team - like Qu and Wata. If they start doing that again, I think those units are skippable as long as you’ve completed every team or have old units to replace them. I know it’s not as good as getting the new character, but what I’m saying is your account will still be fine in the endgame - unless you have a meta mindset, yeah, skipping isn’t great for your account
wata is getting a leap and will work in 2 teams btw
but anyway those two are kinda free because of the free selector this patch and on bianca's
will his shards be in voucher shop then?
or in bp
3000 more years of alpha meta
sadly alpha will not be in darkflow meta team. atleast that's how it's looking rn


lamia new frame when? (never)
what's the team for solo ignition bananami?
Wata is meta in fire/darkflow
useful in Ignition PPC
And that’s only the pre affix units
you can do nanami-vera-another harmo amp. or you can do nanami-oblivion-sss lilith
if anything the “work in one team” only applies to DMC and Qu now
everyone else has 2 or more i think
sure would be nice if darkflow had content
how bout never

surely cw can help getting 10 mil in darkflow
besides

cw leap 2

We’re getting another set of elements
refulgence
So maybe 16 teams by the end of 2026
it's so stupid 
karenina? ig plasma might count. probably getting replaced soon so might not rlly matter
where do I get the feeling they made glow just so vergil's lifespan is longer

wait wtf the official name for glow is refulgence how didnt i know 
it's stupid and funny. lol wth
what would be the build for the 2nd amp?
kuro's thesaurus strikes again
wellllllll about that


kuso be doing anything but simplicity
the umbra 95% shred comp
then: from Ionization/Flux to Plasma
now: from Glow to Refulgence lmao

evolving backwards
me when veronica
please excuse indie company
somebody answer pls 
can daren die alr
no
ive specifically avoided SSSing her because i keep thinking shes going to get replaced soon.
2nd leap. trust
too bad for you 

just sss her using bp shards selector
someone who can hold 4 dv 4guin
me seeing a lot of ppc guides having Lantern and wondering what the heck should I do
For tundra, which ending should I go for when farming exp?
replace the lantern with gloria and pray
Bruhh that pfp is cursed 
peak
@hardy arrow hi guys , i am getting a weird bug in story 12-24. during the battle, when the instructions are given, that instructions banner freezes on the screen
Tap where it wants you to tap

Or show screenshot
wait a few seconds
if thats the case, try restart the battle
Pterygota
no pythagoras
Also who the hell did he ping
ye idk 

this instruction banner remains here, it does not close
clicking the X with your mouse doesnt work?
right
Press Y
it does not. i have tried everything repairing, re installling nothing is working
oh it does now

thanks
😭
who would have thought simply pressing Y does solve the issue
Its a game feature 


Is it confirmed that Nanami old Ult voice line will be back?
I think so? Why

nanami change voice?
Friends
Hello mister
Friends
Is jetavie day break worth investing? I do not have any good attacker for dark team
Aight aight
how does the crit rate boost from echos 4piece work? does the ult have to be popped or just a three ping yellow?
Is it just from any heal?
Physical DMG increases by 5% and Extra DMG Bonus increases by 5%.
Base DMG of Imprisoning Co-Strike and Soulbreaking Co-Strike increases by 100%. Allies healed by Echo gain an extra 20% CRIT DMG and 75% CRIT Rate for 8s. Triggering this effect again will renew its duration.
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its just whenever she does a heal
It just heal
ah okay, and only her ult triggers heal field right?
no qtes also heals
oh interesting I see, thank you
that’s how I was trying to use it LOL
literally only buffs hanying then 
I have s rank selector who should i get for fire team?
was so confused on how it is supposed to make piano good but I get it with QTE
forced to alisa start 
and forced to mald crit for phys ppc
Do you mean in glacio?
back to red liv luminance crit mald
nah I meant physical
You deal with this rai I'm going to eat
Wasn't that how Luminance Leap worked back then?
deal with what 
Maybe I didn't read my kit
yes, now imagine that with ppc
and you have non-sss luminance
red liv days
red liv
I was barely in uppc in the redliv days
I only started uppc after the alisa rework
if not more, stupid ass crit
plus float
Damn I've already got enough bc to get walter + sig
Is there anyone from the 30 choice Omni frame that goes well with Selena:pianissimo ?
hanying solacetune
but you should pick nanami startrail if you don’t already own her from standard banner
Ok thanks I already got nanami from standard
As a new player, who should I choose for member target banner?
nanami startrail
Thanks! And for A rank?
XXI
Alright!
is there an estimated BC income for the next DMC patch?
11k
welcome to how pgr is supposed to be
Btw they consider collab patches A rank
so technically you’re supposed to save
if geiravor and epitaph are currently my only fire frames, should vera still be on da Vinci? (I do plan on getting Dante too)
Vera should be on hervor if you don’t have pyroath
Do these disappear once the banners leave or do they change to another currency?
yeah i would love to if they didnt make the collab characters meta
They stay
okay thank you
Is there a reason to save them?
For new characters
you use them to get the debut units
quick follow up, with Dante will Vera continue to stay on her sig set or would I then opt for da vinci?
In the ignition team she runs dv yea
okay thank you
do i bother slapping einsteina harmony for feral or not
Most prob u need eins if u dont have 333 team
does solacetune need dlt or can she run dd only?
She would need Deadline Timing weapon resonance skills for double rotation in a Physical team
Can I sub ish for vera on dante teams 

Who do I pick with the selector, lmao.
Should I just get Qu and SS3 her?
Only missing is Nanami Pulse and Starfarer. Karenina is at SS3
theoretically yeah i guess so as a qte bot
not for ignition
oh wait does ish not work for affix?
if you do dante-nanami-ishmael igntion, ishmael becomes a lightning amp
for fire it's ok but use wata

Is recycling a 5 star weapon the only way to get this weapon shard ..?😭
No
you get them from dailies now
Complete your daily mission for some 5 star weapon boxes
yall is her weapon coating worth to pull? or should i just keep her with her coating only?
that's up to you and your funds
so um are resonances like substats for an equipment in gacha
and is there like a limit to how many you can reroll
Not really
im confuzzled then
memories are the equipment in this game right
yk what ima just watch a video
try look for grayraven vids explaining memories
Wdym
if you do dante-watanabe-ishmael for fire, ishmael becomes a fire amplifier (still deals void dmg though)
Ah well I needed a sub for ignition lols
Since dante sucks for fire vs oath no
And I alrd have oath
then nanami is needed
Vera sub 
Oh so I can still cope slot liv
I kinda trolled and pulled Selena instead of pulling vera and using the standard selector for selena
you need sss empyrea to even match base s vera buffs
Is she atleast gonna be in standard by bianca patch LOL
bianca patch yes
Ok so 40 days of coping
I can live with that
Still hoping they pull a 180 last moment and add her to standard in dmc patch but it's not gonna happen
When is danteh
Danteh where are danteh
Go back to Mirror dungeon danteh

Thanksssssss
Got it, thank uuu
What are the best fire element to team up with The fire lady in the r & d events...?
wata epitaph and lucia pyroath
you can get her from thunderbolt manual research, if you dont already have nanami startrail i do reccommend getting her first
Dang i already got startrail..
from the thunderbolt manual?
From r & d
you mean the basic banner selector?
Yes in the base selector i put her on S and when i got her the S option dissappear
then yea you can work towards getting pyro from thunderbolt manual
Do i need black card to get her..?
bc and rnd
Coz i spent all my black card to get the fire lady in r & d event
its permanant so you can always pull later
Ohhhhhhh that's great
Thanksssssss
what should I resonate on vera? Ult or class skill?
whats your fire team invest
Her and wata are my only fire characters
then ult
her sig set 4cot and just solo with vera
3S Lilith rotation?
you have 3S now? 
I was right ur both whels 

Is there still some form of coop bosses in the game?
Like the Celica bosses or smth
No
Can we get sig for vergil with only using free collab tickets?
no
I’m good with my savings, just wanna know if something changes when I get her wep coating
should i only pull only 1 vergil (+the extra copy) then get selena from the anni banner? idk about their sigs, and dante has good alternatives for ignition? i dont think s dante sigless will be good
is sss vergil a power boost or is it a more
It's a Power boost
Any SSS rank upgrade is a Power boost
If you're a f2p player, Vergil or Dante shouldn't be any of your main concern
Unless you want them of course
Getting Vergil once is already good enough
not like cw or luna obv
i do want them but if selena is that important ill only get sigless ss vergil
Nanami: Startrail can be your alternative Burn main dps
I mean you can even just use the fire element team along with Startrail as the burn tank and get a decent score with it
Pyroath, Startrail and Geiravor
It's a valid alternative team for the Burn warzone
And yeah, by value wise Pianissimo is more important than the collaboration
for dante being a better alt than pyro he needs ss3+sig+cub? or not everything
I wouldn't know for certain
No one has played Dante to know the power difference between 2 characters
At least in the global server
But let's just assume that about the same investment for both Pyroath and Dante, Dante is better specifically for Burn content
Investment would affect the results if you have sloped investment
ig i should invest in dante and vergil if i somehow have enough after getting selena? idk
bottom reso for geiravor?
Is SS3 dark bianca a must?
No
Nobody needs their SS3 rank upgrade in the game at this point
SS rank is already properly usable
Okay
Your call
Those collaboration characters are quite expensive even with discounted character banner
You have to decide either investing on Pianissimo probably or join the collaboration
ill js pull ss vergil first then selena
Class Passive for 4 Piece Davinci and 2 Piece Guinevere
If you have her signature weapon along with 1 weapon resonance skill at least, you can build her as a dps/sub DPS with a different memory set
Davinci set then
how do i claim the stuff here? unlike the pass from the supply pack its not given through mail
daily login
Its auto claim on daily
For that specific Monthly pass, it's given the moment you logged in to the game
oh oke thx
It's already sent to your total currency
i was curious its not popping up in my face like the ones in mihoyo games or wuwa when logging in
it does popped up actually
Its included in this view
see the blue thing at the bottom, that shows that u a whel
this pic not mine btw
Is there any working redeem codes rn?
No
just ishmael it brother
It is NOT worth it
she needs like, billionaire invest to be viable
Hey newbie here, I'm wondering why selena has two stories one as floating records and one voiced vn in character trials?
send huaxu
@lavish silo 
Explore the 39 characters of Cyltreon from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
only free sigs
floating record likely typo
(lost the 80/20 to lamia weapon 😭 )
it's just journey of promise + main story
prob get alisa shard if youre gonna buy consistent bp
this one only goes up to here
and if not very consistent bp?
alisa shards starting this patch
The vn is her affection story. Recent s-rank characters give you free access to the affection stories, cause before you always had to level up friendship first
The chapter in Floating record is basically main story
then can pick any or hoard bcs ur account get 0 changes with that 10 shards
hoard it is ig, will it ever get new characters?
Thanks 
no, new bp gives new bp shard selector
ye no wonder u dont have alisa xD
who should i prio from vouchers?
uhh anyone pls send the voucher prio, i dont save it
This thing?
yes thanks
I don't remember where I got it, probably here 
yippe thx

can replace alisa sss with wata sss







