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oh shiet, brb š³
Oh so 3s vera better then damn
What is the next 3S priority again? Wata and Echo?
Ur still partial pak whel, no?
Why'd you even tell others that? 
I just realized with Wata Leap he might become a QTE bot
Just Vera Pyro doing the rot
What?
3s nana?
I'm entirely F2P

that's already the case for me bc he's S sigless vs SS r1 pyr and vera
he only gets swapped in for like 5 secs to cover downtime before the double rot comes in full swing
Is this good?
absolutely not lol
Sup anyone can help me with team build?
I mean my shadow forest was like 1.2m in hero with lilith + zaza so not that far off
I suppose that's leader
Dark
Depends also who they used, maybe theu used rozen
mistake was using rozen then
Screenshot grabbed for google. I see. š
3k rc for an a rank character 
Cuz idk what i should pick between selena, lucia wedding coating and vergil so... Yea..
Just follow your heart
lucia weddbrick skin
If you want to marry Lucia, go for that
Where to get the thing that she wants
the custom visuals aren't that good ngl
I love slacc bracket
gl on legend
my hero bracket is capping at 6.4m 
Lilith and Daybreak
Invest?
is there any way to make stronghold less boring
fine for me tho I'd be cooked otherwise
this is what i need on Qu sig ?
do like 2 or 3 of them a day to pace urself
especially the last like 5 are bad to try and do in 1 day aka
thanks, any idea what her harmony are ?im using her sig ji boan with chen jiyuan
Demon
Is there any reason I shouldnt pull
Please resonate her...
My heart is scared of bad decision
SS her please
Nope, you can pull and save 10k for when it resets again.
r3 but not SS...
Its a good score for s and no reso or ht but WHY TF NO RESO OR HT
If anyone could point me to a good guide for plasma I will owe you my life
you shoul dsave it for when u have guarenteed selector like this
Iāve struggled with all the guides Iāve seen
I canāt I have exactly 7 of those red paper and I need them for Vergil
follow yo heart ā„ļø
ā¦
U dont need red paper
My heart giving me sub mil scores my boy
Just use blue event currency
your heart is telling you to demote 
It is a bad decision, but having no regrets is more important 
My fire team wayyyyy out scoring n my plasma rn, brute force
Exactly
I want but I still donāt have enough to buy 9 shards in the VS
wdym 
This blue currwncy can be used for resonating
Never
Ur good af
Is that not a second account?
Hmm, ye cus idk if I will have enough if there's another check event
You do realize you can just use the farming stage currency to resonate right
You know how hard is this??? It give me random
You don't need the red usb to do that
Its not hard...
because its literally a random s rank. You could get Liv Luminance for all you know
Someone helpš
lol
We don't know when the blue ticket selector will reset, the only time was during Ishmael.
That's the whole point
Random???
Because you're using the currency, the resonance is random
But you can get it by spending serum anyway
I'm casual 
ig I'll wait until I have like 10k+ blue ticket to be sure
So not like you'll run out of it super easily
Better than me
I am F2P
U random reso everything then u can keeo trying for the right ones after
Even tho I feel like it wont reset anytime soon
Hmm okay

Right right... smo..
fellow f2p
That is the truth 
Yes
You can change it whenever you want though
(sounds like lies)
Keep the feeling while they still last
Didnt u start a week ago...
Hero lobby 
10 days ago now
Just u wait imma be top 100
Ss0 for everyone I assume?
Best thing to watch would probably be an example warzone run tbh
Yes. No banners to pull on. Except pyroath I have her ss3
@brittle terrace How I do it with the blue? Because it only gives me with the red paper
oh ss3 makes stuff easier
That was my spirit. But not anymore
Donāt ask how I completely forgot
SS3 Pyro do 33555 
where can i find the damage dummy in celica class
Can't do 33555, that's 3s shenanigans
Back when the game first dropped first three months I was ranked 1 consistently⦠completely different game now but I gotta try
Send me the right wayyyyy
And 5s is pretty damn sweaty ngl
whats that
Plasma rot
the heck is 3 and 5 
How I do it without the red paper
2s1e/2s1e/5s/5s/5s

You can use the simulation shop currency to rng it, but the red usbs are the only way to select them.
Iāll do it just please send a video
I just need something I can grind rn
Click the memory itself
Oh okay Ty
Not on the resonance space
https://youtu.be/wB2j0_IpNik?si=uY9w0ODeJ5qHgEFy
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I know that like... Selena is gonna get rerun but I feel like when she actually gets rerun she won't be meta anymore
Or on a 70% banner... Which means my luck ain't saving nothin
why does norman not reset alongside the other weeklies
where do i find the gardener 
She might appear in a selector again, cling to hope 
Here is another reference
SS0 Lucia + SS0 Nanami + SS3 Lilith
Hero Flux, single mob
Flux zone rotation
Applicable team rank and weapon resonance: Lucia SS0 (with DLT)ļ¼Nanami SS0ļ¼Lilith SS0
Rotation order: Nanami ā® Lilith ā® Lucia ā® Nanami ā® ...
[Nanami, Starter]
ā¬
[Lilith 1]
1: šµšµ ā® ult
2: hold A ā® Ult
ā¬
[Lucia 1]
hold ult
1: šµšµ + hold ...
This is already helpful
Thank you so much
hes asking ss3 not ss0
Also this might be a hard question to answer butā¦
Which team is gonna score higher brute force
Cause ik plasma is op
But itās weaker for me
My plasma is buns
Ofc plasma'll do less, ignition is the activated affix 
Wait wtfā¦
WOW THANK U
I didnāt even think abt that no wonder my plasma was so damn weak
What is the resonance?
ss0 stuff is still applicable to ss3
ss3 will just have easier rotation due to energy recover from fadeaway
BA and Sig move is good?
ok but where can i find the gardener 

in celicas class
You want wata start
Lemme reword that
You want to open with wata rot, not vera
How tf can you send a minute long video on discord??
Compression
Do you have nitro?
Or nitro
No
Idk
That never works for me
helppp
Vera can do 2 rota on Cottie build
U keep going
Otherwise new waves won't have tank damage reduction which is big damage loss
But did I do his rot right?
I didnāt know this. Start with wata or immediately switch to him
We can do ignition now right ?
Uh no, you did not
Tarzan move is not used
next patch
are Qu memory ji boan with chen jiyuan ? and what about her harmony ?
Ah ok ok
You can do pyroath start, then swap to wata
Most broken team incoming
did you scrap billie 
After wata does his rotation swap to vera
Nah, you want to actually use the 3 blaze orbs and not the grapple hook move.
I held basic by accident and saw the 3 bars on his ult, I thought I unlocked the shortened version lol

Shouldnt the fire team be stronger lorewise
Wait till df up release
nihil š§
I forgor š
So get 3 pellets, 3x basic attack, then 3 special red orbs, then ult?
he forger
Ok beside nihil
Lmk how ur score changes after avtivating plasma-
Is this okay? From some reason I have feeling itās bad
If you don't want to think about it, you can do it that way
The sweaty way to play him is to animation cancel all the moves
For the fastest rotation possible
Ive got those two character they are incredibly powerful
In a very simple way sure.
Who that. Or whats that.
Thank you Ace omgšāØļø
I donāt play sweaty. My phone wonāt let me lol
probably fire since pyro wheelchairs it it
idk how strong selena is lorewiese
Then doing what you typed will be enough.
That score I showed was w fire but Iāll do a comparison for you. Keep in mind I donāt have the proper rotation yet tho
copium for the weakest team š«
Yw you help me with the pulls so itās a small thing
What about the pyroath rot I did?
Then just do the simple way
where can i find the gardener 
I'd laugh if DF outdamages ice.
Ice is so ASS.
It probably will, if daren shred still stacks with df shred from wata
What is DF, im retar.ed
That's 95% shred excluding stuff like bathlon
darkflow
oh
Oh yeah ur fire is crazy idk what sort of whel u did to get that invest in first week
Wait, the double shred is a real thing?
I doubt they will keep that 95% is stupid, this aint nier š
Fair
Oh omg hanying?
thats most likely a bug since nanami and daren dont stack
60% shred at 3s is already nuts
is this ok? or should i replace lux with No.21?
Let me check.
Wanshi still bbg
Yeah I got her after I talk with you here
where nanami
who
Why is daren still relevant.... Why does it have to be the one old char I dont have
He might be a cool character pun not intended but his team sucks.
wasn't she on last baner or sum?
2025 + triple patches and karenina is STILL META
Even worse, because dark is so strong rn even with daren it's gonna be a while until new dark tank releases
Cool character ..hah...hahaha...hahahhahahaha...
Dark strong?
Since solon was idiot and made bianca too stronk
omg dont say that 
True tho liv amp needed
It's matching affix teams in strength
dark isnt yowai now 
Bianca saved dark lmao
Ok good I thought I was bad w my fire ngl. And I went hard lol
The top strongest teams in cn I'm pretty sure are ultima slash, ignition, dark, and fire with wata leap
is vera gairevor good with upcoming dante ?
All at 18m+ score
Unless veronica
Its the best 3rd slot for him yea
who is the other ? nanami lol ?
Yes
oh wow
yes
Remember dark b4 lilithš
Donate me that pyroath asap lol
Honestly tho the fact that fire became one of the strongest teams after wata leap is so cathartic
Capriccio and Daren making company for fish 
2 of the worst units uniting
š
But if Bianca is that absurdly strong, then maybe Veronica'll replace Watanabe indeed 
I wouldn't do that but I don't think I play Pyroath optimal myself. There is videos out there that could guide you better on Pyroath.
Maybe...
Doubt it
Since again, fire became a top scorer in cn after his leap
Veronica will probably be another element
Leaping him then replacing him a patch later is nasty work, surely they won't do that.
I gotta see the fire scire differences after leap
She could be darkflow attacker for all that we know 
Tbh fire was peob the most modern elemental team anyway
Just wait until sheās sss
Killing cw before any darkflow content releases would unironically be so funny 
Wouldnāt u rather that Vera?
If they start making affixes their main element ima be sad
Is this better guys
Damn how much moneycu got and dropping on a gachaš
WELL OFC but i have vera so id rather a pyroath
Ahh fair enough
It's better yeah
More coherent team rotations for sure
I prefer normal elements and affixes just being a second lart of their kit like with pyro or selena or nana
If you could transfer plasma knowledge into my head Iād def gift that pyroath this s hard ash
Ooo nice
Thx for funding the game btwšāØļø
Might not be the most optimal rotations but that's only up to you if you want to follow that
I get that
But ur bank accountš
Of course
Am I doing everyone basic rotations correctly?
I need Veronica to replace 21
Dw I only spend whatās comfortable
what invest is that team at? all SSS?
Thats good atleast, homeless characters> homeless gamer
with veras first rotation just do blue > dunk > ult
you'll save a lot of time :3
So 1 blue ping? Not 2?
her dunk gives her a lot of energy and loads 3 yellow
Why do ppl do the charged attack for vera at all again?
only in the first rotation for meter
3 she doesnāt use yellow? Right?
Charge attack?
when you use her blue, she gets an equal amount of yellow, those yellows turn into red when you ult
you want 6 yellow in the small bar above her blue orbs before you ult, to get 6 red
Meter?
(it will only show 5 iirc)
sorry fighting game brainrot, energy
Oh but dont u have enough energy anyway
oh right i get enough cus im running dps set whoops
i guess you can do 2 blue into dunk then
Is she ss?
that should give enough
yeah SS
Got it
Strange..
No wonder
my highest is SS3 and vera isnt that
Play different
How do I increase wataās orbs?
Im using 4 shakes 4 cottie
wata rotation takes a bit, what are your memories on him?
And no orb problems
I stick to vera support build
Why...
on vera?
Yeah ofx
Work well for me
Alphonse 4x, 2x cottie
yeah Im doing hervor, does that give more energy on dunk? i dont think so
Whats ur pyro invest
I have both build for vera
Sss r3
wata rotation is swap > ult1 > tap attack > hold dodge as it comes out > hold attack immediately after you see the grappling hook > mash red > ult
UR USING HERVOR AND NOT ENOUGH ORBS AND ENERGY?!
oh no im getting enough
Well that makes sense then
Ah thats good
Ohhh omg sorryšš
How did it go sir
Hervor just gives more orbs for comfortable solo vera
Still learning but I gotta two rot of Lucia and Lilith down
Im still going back and forth to see which one goes higher in score
You'll get used to it 
Makes sense it also depends on wata invest
he was mashing blue till he ran out then dunking
5s takes some time getting used to
Bad bad
i was just telling him to do 1 blue into dunk
Pretty much no room for error either
to get energy to ult in the first rot
Is Jeanie worth using if I donāt have lamia?
I don't use wata since he ss3, i replace him with nanami
then just do 2 blue > ult in all the other ones
If you're too slow, plasma timer runs out
Oh is his vera s only?
Itās coming to me
Wait who?
Speed is the one thing I have down pat
Oh so why u not using dps vera...
Jetavie*
Not really
Better off using the solo lilith team with your strongest tank and luna oblivion
its doing WHAT
Itās just the memorization of the actual rot that gets me and the variance between investment
What is the most efficient build for Vera Geiravor? gray ravens website shows sub dps and main dps
Lmfao
It depends on your pyroath invest
depends on the rest of your team
Is electric current the plasma timer?
Dont own Pyroath, i'm newer player
If your pyroath is ss0/ss3 and wata has his sig, use the subdps set of 4 shakes 4 cottie
Get yo mind out the gutter
main DPS
I run her as a main dps basically
Then use 4 hervor 4 shakespeare
She shreds
Tbh i just like her on her support build
She does good damage on support
Thats main dps set but yea best set for under 3s pyro
4 shakes 4 cottie not better? (and throwing 4DV 2 Guin on a healer)
Solo vera won't have enough orbs to sustain rotations
i see
Very true
Yeah most of her damage is built into her kit and sig weapon ofc
S ranks i own as of right now are Luna Oblivion, Crimson Weave, Nanami Startrail, Lilith, Alisa Echo, Lucia Crymson Abyss, No 21 Feral and Watanabe Epitaph, could i make a team with her with any of these
is DPS vera still better than support if you have minimum SS3 dante?
It is better yeah
cus then you can technically suggest that as everyone getting dante next patch
Dante is ignition, in ignition shes support
(i dont need it I have low invest meta teams across)
(cant he technically fire tho)
or is it just abyssmal
Yeah but vera will do like 5x the damage prob
slightly better than vergils case
You can still use him
Oh, I know. I was thinking more about a full guide on every choice like the Cradle one has
Yeah
Fire team
In ignition team or fire team?
Sending
Because if fire, you may as well still just solo vera
Guys whatās wrong with my rotation
Is this right?
Pls dont sss+ him-
Why not?
Slightly weaker than sss0 pyroath
What do you mean
I can deal with that
you didnt ping another 3 blue on 2nd vera rot
Not much change from sss to sss+, ss to sss has significantlu greater boist and is much cheaper
I would not recommend s+ dante however
and why are yiu using hervor 
Ohhh. I ping two blue even tho super comes in at 1?
do two blues on second vera rotation
Ok thank you
they convert 1:1 into red orbs
If u ever like an s rank u sss them
I guess ill stay at sss for him
Looks fine
Its just never worth
U could get multiple sss
Which are amazing value
I mainly s+ unit i really like
whel
How much u dropping on a gachaš
Let keep that a secret lmaooo
Even if i had millions i wouldnt s+ unitsš
where can i find the gardener in celica class
Gimme a general estimate...
You mean the testing dummy?
Its in trial zone
Im genuinly curious how much s+ players spend
me making 50 considerations if i wanna SS3 a unit

Real it took me 4 years to swipe that card
i just occasionally monthly pass
With the 2 spender plus my vouncher i don't spend much
its not even consistent lol, and most of my RC is spent on coatings anyway
s+ takes 150k bc normally, and that's only for the unit
Not counting sig and cub
Around 300
Usd?
Thats over Ā£200š
I think thats what I've spent overall
And tahts one character
Holy, that's like $40 in my local currency
If sync wasn't around i would've just been chillen
and you use that on 1 unit 
I work a lot
I work too, im just a research intern lmao (i make dirt)
Ive spent 80? I think but literally after 40 i got 3 cubs, enough f9r sss wanshi (from like halway ss3), nana sig, enough for 2 spare s ranks and more
š
well in my case its more coatings
Ima get wanshi coating, i might get the green ish one
If I like a gacha coating I consider getting it (like I didnt get tsubaki, but got the wedding dress cus 31 broke me)
The coating are pretty peak
fk whels
Im only dissapointed i spent on vera skin on my second account cuz i thought i wouldnt spend on main

Thats tuff
im hanging on a thread 
not even 20m 
he wont get another wave trust
Ā£40š
need more resos
It only the first day, u can catch up
Like literally everything or just how to get the endings?
Wow huge difference. Any issues here? Besides the occasional misclick
time to use your 6 usbs 
Guys you just brought be from top 30 in leader to top5 thank you
U will mald if needed
lol
the power of rotations
Despite patches being slow after synch, atleast money will be better
ok your pyroath rotations need WORK
LOL
is this cottie vera
why use cottie if ur not capitalising on it 
tell me what to do. I just figured out my fire rotation myself never learned it properly
SS/SS3/SSS?
Ss3
I was gonna say the same about your pyro, that what holding u back
Got it got it
Yup, probably just gonna stick to ss3
YOO THATS AMAZING
what memories u use on gera
AYEEE U LIKED IT
Shakes cot
What score u got so far thesis?
Like literally everything
Swap > 3Red >tap attack (let her hit the ground dont cancel early) > activate ult > slash ult (the hold one) > Hold attack > tap attack after letting go of the button> eclipse ult (the tap one) > 3 red > tap attack (no need to hit the ground) > activate ult > hold attack > hold ult > swap of
its a lot, go slowly
have good one
Such as the "-30% movement speed when hit" eyeballs"
On the fire I got 5.1 in leader
Easier to buy skins aswell without so many good value packs
U can definitely get higher
Bless
Because that is one hell of a debuff.
And bless
impressive you got a 5.1m
Such a good community here
Ofc ur improvement is crazy,really getting the hang of things, idk much about pyroath rn tho
im just a fighting game player who likes optimizing combos lol
Lmaooo thank you very much. Pyroath still needs some work but still a week in!!
I love that
i can help with pyroath :3
Ur whole team is ss3
just a quick note, if u dont do blue ping before swap out on gera, on swap in u do two 3p of blues [ i just didnt bothered to note it down in notes ]
if you need help with other teams lemme know
Got it thank you
Will do
Thank you
it wasnt worthy enought to be on notes š
im usually in lore chat (read story)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Ves3NSyv1TY031TwJ2SEHpe63c376khDNdRu53XgV3g/htmlview#
Found this on reddit you can check it out
its just goes natural after malding double rot for hours 
what's your score
50milš
š
5.3m 222.3 111 
how much shards needed from S to SSS exactly?
i will mald later. i have lots of competition in my bracket now
i'll get plenty of ss3 next patch
5 3S players 
I only got 2.4mil rip
soon tm
question?
GOATED, thanks
120 I think
4 copies???
Yeah it 120 shards
alright, thanks
5 copys i think
bricked
ok
Rip
thanks yall
What should i be getting then?
no worries, i just woke up from my sleep lol, thats the answer i needed to drift off again, its 3am over here
Can't seem to get 6 orbs for 2nd rot gera in first swap 
Maybe I'm doing it too fast or something
Curious, who you trying to sss?
What should i be getting with this? Vera sigless
do u have lingya on pre swap char to gera
Hopefully vera
Ah lingya wata

how many bc do we get during DMC patch?
Makes sense now
She worth it
But tbh it's not like I'll be using that rotation anyway since gera isn't my mdps
it was Nanamin, before someone told me that you can only get her shards from dupe, and 30 only from ppc
Just wanted to try it out
ye, lingya and dlt mandatory 
Around 11k
My favorite tank 
my SS r1 vera out dmging ss3 r2 pyroath
hard carry, best girl
100% Rerun banner will happen next patch
now i sleep again, later
Cya man
you mean Base selector or arrival?
too bad im gonna get Hanying for selector
need to build physcal rooster
unless theres future physcal tank
anniv banner up to selena
Probably gonna be a while to replace hanying
Echo feel good with her leap 
how much voucher tickets can we expect during dmc? wanna know if i can 3s wata when his leap comes
f2p?
yea
Ah pyroath looks so goodš
That gera rot feels pretty cool to do
Dodge cancel?
Just the specific character swaps
Yeah fire team fun af tho
I'm doing wata-pyro-vera, not wata-vera-pyro
Fair it all depends on invest
about 5k
Might brick my bricked phys harder
Its now between luna and pyro
Thats depressing
27k if u buy bps 
Even better after wata leap
One of the highest scoring teams in cn lmao
Surpassing even some affix teams
Only thing is solo wanshi and solo lilith will be painful for a while
Dayum
Is it cuz of his own damage of the shred or both?
And luna will help with cope affix teams aswell
But pyro will help fire and plasma
Im so indecisive ;-;
Bp is just such good value
Qte procs shred field like garnet and nanami and range is also increased
Also helps that he's able to do 6 stack ult at sss so he does decent damage
Oh thats lovely
Doesnt sss increase his damage anyway
also smooth rota no dodge cancers
Still amgery that he does df shred instead of dark shred
...just remembered why I hate derived from matrix
Why not
Wym the dodge cancels were the fun part


i want to turn off brain for most part 
Fair
Could've given me Yata or Parhelion tbh.
wdym
I don't understand Lamia at all,why am I not doing any damage with her
I pull her on her first banner and barely use her
She have her weapon and she is SS
I am playing the Shadow Forest where I am supposed to do more dark damage
She's been powercrept in terms of damage by lilith
do you think they will add more affix elements, or will next lightning and ice attackers powercreep dmc characters
Yata and Parhelion aren't available in derived iirc, though Luna eclipse is.
And dark bianca is arriving in 2 patches, completely replacing lamia all together
want cheap speedrun strat? take pyroath, take signa + diesel and spam red orbs, everything dies instantly
if u need tundra speedrun, hmu
And then there's Image of Desire to kill.
Yeah but max he could do before his leap was 4 stacks to not take time for vera/pyro
Before vera, it was 4/5 stack for double rot
Tundra and crimson waves (I think its cradle's mode name) are a breeze. I get stuck in Derived.
Do the thing i sent
I get this pathetic score with her
What bracket are u in
I presume veronica will not be fire tank after wata leap
Pls not an affix attacker
I just saw fire score very high
Darkflow 
leader
My eyes are gone
Id rather i be activated like with pyro but main element dark
What rank is your lilith also do u have luna oblivion
Ima have to take a look rq
Tbh tho I wish leap didn't give 2 stack on ult and instead just more blaze orbs
Since his damage comes from blaze orbs and not ult
True
Lilith and Luna are SS and have their weapon
Now my guess is vero eill be dark tank with some other affix or surprise attacker
Not like the two extra blaze orbs would steal much time anyway, since he speeds up his blaze orb animation at 3s
It's almost instant by the time you do 4th blaze orb
zamn
But i cannot afford sig so rip
Gimme that luna pls
It from pgr sea mb fam
I get her from the standard banner selector(the previous one,not the current one)
Wait does SS hanying just not work for ultima slash

well i wont go legend so no reason to get more
dont think i can get 5m without piano sig on phsyical
22.33 is 7m 

Piano dont deserve sig..
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pull selena
Piano would be good
Hmm if I drop my account here would you guys judge it
Sure go ahead
Okay give me a second
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You think I can get both her and Vergil? I might have already leveled up rosetta thinking I wouldnt have enough pulls
Vergil ?
Just how important are cubs? Should I be getting them for my other dps characters I have?
Better than mine for sureš
Just get wanshi nana and lilith to ss atleast pls
Luna has sig so ss aswell prob
its a limited unit so theres no way of ever getting it, since u are focused on getting him why not get everything
Will do when I have the skulls for them
Generally cubs arent that important but i heard for dmc its oart of their kit
Now I'm thinking if I should just pull Vergil then go
U done outlier i presume?
U could always swipe
I'm not that rich okay if I could I would
She does now because vergil can generate some stacks of his own
š
But ss3 is still a very big qol for slash
If you're not pulling vergil though then you need ss3 hanying to work with balter
What if u dont have hanying or balterš„¹
Are these gonna be usable on the dmc banners?
Nope
Only bc
Nah I experienced Collab they're bc only
Then ts ded
But not like you're missing out on much lol
Okay I'm sure now that I wont be getting any Vergil's
Ts is only high scoring due to the damage scaling of sss+
If someone sponsored me I'd pull at least SS3
Do I spend them on piano girl I like her design
Yeah true lol, id rather get luna or pyroath
Pianissimo idk the proper spelling
I need me a sugar parent asap
Lmk if u find one

You mean Selena sure if you like her go ahead
Selena is really good ofc
Selena good
Mb midlena is really good
Okay me pull Selena and be selenaful
kinda sucks u can't use these event tickets on the Collab banner
š
I know I've experienced true pain in the nier Collab back when it was still 1x
Omg nier was goated tho
get lucky on fate
The farming was painful

I know
Is the fate banner a meme?
Yeah
Otherwise do not touch with a 100 metre stick
U can get lucky on normal, dont encourage gambling
Wait the cub won't stay after he leaves? Oh damn yeah I have to
How big is the difference in drop rates
Like 1% i think
1% I think
Yeah 1%
Triple the rate tho

ignore the fact that it's 0.5% vs 1.5%
But like i got ish 9/60
ofc it wont its vergils cub so its just collab
I have 20 pulls for dmc are we maxing out Vergil and Dante
...
i have Qu hypertuned with signature and dlt but after the first ult she is out of orbs, how do people get 7 orbs after every ult ? not just Qu but other characters too, are the other 2 of the team related to that ?
The stopping point is SSS not SSS+
Btw is vera geiravor good
ss as well? Theb you're likely doing her rotation wrong
Yes, very
Ofc
Sounds about enough doesn't it
Is 43k bc good for dmc ?
What in the name is that
oh mine isnt SS, does SS grant the infinite orb ?
I did the same mistake, went for fate banner on Vera Geiravor, had to pity 80 to get her (-5k bc)
Well ss gives you an extra ult stack
46k if you want double SS and SS3 with s cub and sig wep
So that's why you're running out of orbs
You're using more that you're supposed to
i see
Who should I pick up from here
Watanabe or qu
Are you required to go that far otherwise it's not worth it?
Yuh pretty much
Itās the bare minimum to get both characters with cubs and weapons
If you want the basic investment yeah pretty much
I wanted to get them but I'm too broke and I don't want to no life so I guess I'll just not pull
I'll probably only pull Vergil then I'll go
U have plenty of time so save up for both characters at least (excluding weapons/cub)
I mean if they'll underperform might as well not
Good point
Well fair point but some people want to pull for them
how big is the performance drop off?
is it still possible to clear stuff with only 1 copy and weapon
Iām personally not a Dante fan so I will try to SSS Vergil and get his equipment.
Then probably 80k+ if SSS Vergil
Isnāt it just around 44 k
selena gacha skin in dmc collab version or the next one?
Why aren't you going to get his sig too as well
Next
I meant both cub and weapon when saying equipment
Yeah 3S is a good stopping point if you want
And the banners discontinued to 175
Yeah 78k if both SSS well I guess if your a whale you can probably do that
Iām f2p, maybe if lucks on my side
+15k if you lose the 50/50 on weapon
Well better start earning I'll probably just get Vergil I mean I can probably live off with the 5* weapon
? Do u mean that I canāt pick whoās weapon Iām gonna get on the last pull
No you can
Its +15k if you lose 50/50 for both weapons
I think the weapon has their own banners
Weapons are not guaranteed
Good luck
You'll need it
I don't know if I'll stick with balter or just pull for Vergil
Thx, GL 2 u 2 and everyone who reads this š 
watanabe >>> qu cos we know he gets leap
Watanabe has always been a higher priority since the dawn of fcing time
Should I SS3 Watanabe or Qu in the next selector
Bro
I picked qu
How do I make Nanami do fire shred? Do I just get ignition stacks and don't use ult?
You have to ult
ss3 wata is better
How bad are Dante and Virgil without weapons cub and stuff
Bad bad I've heard
Oh rigt
Like really bad
Get ignition stacks and ult
u can just look up on wiki and figure out
its not so much damage its more qol tbh
if stuff affects core passive it might be really annoying to play without it
what are you even meant to do when voodoo starts spamming the lightning in clash reflection?
it lasts seemingly so long and 1/2 shots for some ungodly reason
kill her before she moves
You kill her before that 

???
my selena and solacetune are SS + sig and I can only get to like 60 bars before she does it
I don't remember
Hit her until she dies faster
Use flower ult
spam alisa glacio
it's usually already used before it happens š„ do I deliberately slow down to make it happen
I assume you don't have any other team besides physical?
Ok
hey why not use glacio on clash 
You could
Not like they have resistances
And selena glacio 3x better anyway lmao
0 clue how to use glacio and assumed since it had a phys damage buff I was supposed to use phys
imagine following clash weathers
Is clash not nana weather rn
Not specifically
also this
Or is clash different for everyone
+30% dmg for 3s after a basic attack
We did have to follow weather on the first clash
Atleast for f2p
Cause it was bugged
It was actually you that had the phys res shred
So you were the one that took more damage
Sure
Fym 1:01
Is there easier cr I kinda forgor
There is right
If so that makes sense
There is one below a certain level
O
But you can also do that with spamming glacio
below 85 you get gutted clash
I was gonna say how tf you get 1:01 with veronica
Vera
Does sdt have a time limit for the dmc characters?
has a huge black border in the left corner of the screen how do you remove it...
send pic
Veronica sub-20s is possible? 
You can hardly see it by screenshot
prob pc thing
what harmony should I choose for selena's weapon, I have Burana 4pc Cottie 2pc
Wym pc thing 
I need to know
I can get sub-1 cr that means
Your window resolution might not fit your game's set resolution
Need to somehow shave off 13s
ty
makes sense
no i ment to that black bar thing the other person sent
O
maybe?
You said you wantap veronica
40s at hell Cradle
when will blue banner reset?
No idea
is it like a once a year or sumn
ou okay thanks
Supposedly its once a year, but only happened once
Will Selena story be gone after the 6th forever
No
Oh ok
2027
but its better to follow chapters in order anyway
what about bianca patch, it wont reset yet by then right
Probably not
Hi
So, does Discord come directly after Bianca?
Yes
Fck 
i assume by the time pgr collab is over veronica will be close to coming out or will come out already on cn, so possible 3x patch to sync up in the end 
I've already been doing that
who can't wait to fight veronica with veronica 
I hope they do that
i bet veronica just gonna replace either dark tank or alpha
dont see her fitting anywhere else
Ok, physical against skych won't do, let's try glacio 
Please, please, please Kuro
Let Veronica be a dark tank XDDD
veronica fire tank
LIGHTNING ATTACKER DARKFLOW
No Hanying 
We need to let Daren die
thats why i feel she might replace lightning dps
2dark units in a row?
makes me doubt
True... ;----;
she could still get darkflow
is discord an a-rank
wow i can finally save
A rank with timestop
the timestop and her damage is so questionable
that its cool that she is "modern" with TLC but its not gonna help much
Well, glacio indeed did better than solo phys Selena 
damn this clash was fast
Kuro making veronica dark tank would unironically make it the highest scoring team in cn
But maybe solon is crazy enough to do it for bianca 

need to skip 1:13 
Dark Bianca is good?
Yes
new units always good cuz powercreep
it will easily be good cos lamia is so old now
lamia is so old that even lilith does more damage

cr voodoo is rigged maaaan
been trying for like an hour with my phys team and the moment it does the lightning rage thing it's just over
idek what I'm supposed to do
Pretty sure the only solution is to kill it before then
Yeah it's a bug that never got fixed
Damage reduction goes to your units instead of her
So you take extra damage 
fasteset way to get hypertune materials?
guild dorm and events
there is no "fast" way once you've burned em all
oh okay š
which is why unless u need infinitas it's probably better to just hypertune memories 4-6
since they give atk
Have wanshi and leaped alisa?
ye I do, tho alisa's running tonitrus and wanshi's sigless
