📨・general-help

[undone oxide]

So 16s is extra fast already

But overkill too much

[glacial dagger]

If there are good characters in anniversary banner then i won't pull dmc , i already have selena and vera , instead i will just save to pull Bianca ,

[unique egret]

definitely not me

[normal night]

Everyone from Lamia to Selena I believe.

[cinder zinc]

i caught 2 people last night

[unique egret]

damn flexing in gen help

[normal night]

You get a copy of them, their weps/cubs then invest in their dupes.

[craggy imp]

@undone oxide

[urban lily]

thanks alot

[undone oxide]

Does Vera have something similar for her QTE

[craggy imp]

maybe

[unique egret]

why not put dv on vera so u can have double qte lucia?

oh wait nvm

[craggy imp]

vera was on 4guin

4guin 2ein cuz no sig

[unique egret]

ye its only can work if u use wata ish instead of vera ish

[craggy imp]

i have wata i just used ish cuz shes R1

[undone oxide]

Pyro 4 sig 4 Cot
Vera 4 Guin 2 Ein
Ish 4 DV 4 Shakes?

[craggy imp]

yea

[wooden hornet]

Hi guys I'm a newbie actually so I wanted to know
HOW THE HELL YOU GET THE RED TARGET WEAPON TICKETS 😭😭

[unique egret]

u swipe

[light quartz]

After the update do they disappear?

[normal night]

They are very rare, you usually have to convert Black cards to red weapon tickets.

[unique egret]

nope

[stray patrol]

Should I grind for the other boss? Or this is enough since i already got 1500 pts.

[normal night]

Go into overflow set and complete them all in there.

[unique egret]

go do overflow for bosses that u miss

[light quartz]

Ok thanks i was using my serum because its 3x

[stray patrol]

Alr. Thanks

[wooden hornet]

So that means there is no fixed way to get that beginner 30 pity target weapon??

[unique egret]

ye just keep chugging

[woeful cloud]

not anymore, they carry over

[craggy imp]

@undone oxide i just got 24s hell but i already saved my 25s run

[light quartz]

Oh i got scared when u said not anymore lol

[craggy imp]

im gonna kms

[normal night]

Wep banner are all 30 pity and selectable,its also permanent so outside of exchanging BC to Wep tickets nope.

[woeful cloud]

well, there was a time when farming stage currency DID NOT carry over
so all it turned into cogs if you forgot to spend it

[normal night]

Yes...the pain.

[stray patrol]

When will 3x end?

[unique egret]

fun times though

[woeful cloud]

and the exchange rate was awful

[light quartz]

Yeah i know i hated going to lvl 25 i just built the s rank and stopped

[undone oxide]

Is Pyro on GA or smth? I feel like I'm not doing your dmg at all

[unique egret]

we would bet on who gets to become millionaire

[light quartz]

Dmc ?

[normal night]

It ends briefly during DMC and then we might go back into 2x or 3x after dmc.

[light quartz]

me

[craggy imp]

yes shes on ga bro what its 1e

[undone oxide]

[wooden hornet]

Ohhh okay then thx

[stray patrol]

I better rush my srerum ill stop pushing story

[craggy imp]

@undone oxide

[wooden hornet]

Also is Ishmael and Oblivion Luna with Daemonissa a good team??

[craggy imp]

yes

unless ishmael is SS3

[wooden hornet]

So gotta get Ishmael to Ss3 right?

[undone oxide]

[craggy imp]

no if ishmael is ss3 then lilith is not good in void team

[craggy imp]

wth why is it 7bars

[wooden hornet]

Ohh then what should I do mine is ss7 already eeep

[craggy imp]

pyroath should get it to >= 6 bars

[craggy imp]

use vera instead

[final pumice]

what i can do with these blue cards

[craggy imp]

save

[normal night]

Hold onto them until you hit 15k and then start spending excess which goes above 15k.

[wooden hornet]

This patch's vera right??
(Sorry lol I'm new so eee getting confused)

[craggy imp]

yes

[wooden hornet]

Okay tyy

[undone oxide]

I think I just do smth fundamentally wrong

[craggy imp]

youre supposed to 3ping with vera starter

and then > pyroath swap ba ult > double qtes

so then during sword waves theres double qtes

like about halfway through

[undone oxide]

So this?

[craggy imp]

ye

3p with vera > swap pyroath > hold ut and double qtes

the ish part with her ult is inconsistent as well it will sometimes bring shortie to 1 bar

idk why youre doing this you got a better score than me

you can probbakly do not full sword waves

since your vera has sig and mine doesnt

[hollow isle]

should i build my epitaph as a sub-dps for my DPS vera geiravor? or is epitaph as qte bot better?

[untold otter]

guys,do Dante n Vergil need SSS to play on Hero WZ?

[craggy imp]

hero is easy to retain no need

[craggy imp]

solo vera is better

[unique egret]

yes

[untold otter]

does SS3 make any difference?

[craggy imp]

a big difference

[unique egret]

get ssss+

[craggy imp]

true 4S or useless collab

[untold otter]

[unique egret]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-vergil-you-should-motivate-yourself-now-low-tier-gif-5868574977371925905

[undone oxide]

Feels like it's a bit faster than 2 Vera Ult

[craggy imp]

if you dont do full sword waves maybe

you have higher invest so its possible

[untold otter]

no

[undone oxide]

Okay it changes nothing

[unique egret]

[undone oxide]

I'm done with minmaxing PPC, I need to do WuWa

[untold otter]

dante freebie comes with his sig n motocycle?

[craggy imp]

[craggy imp]

no only dante

[untold otter]

no, i dont wanna play with 80% signature rate

[cobalt laurel]

can i see PGR contribution log siege via online?

[undone oxide]

@craggy imp Pull Vera

[craggy imp]

what if you dont dodge cancel + use sophia and wata?

[undone oxide]

Wata sigless...

[craggy imp]

does ishmael get confused with 2 healers in comp

[undone oxide]

For F2P?

[undone oxide]

Yes

[craggy imp]

bruh

[undone oxide]

I like how you call her confuse

[craggy imp]

i was gonna say use ishmael and shakespeare burst for ender with vera not canceling reds and hold ba

but ig that wont work now would it

[languid robin]

What is the exact date of pgr x dmc Collab?

[craggy imp]

aug 6

[languid robin]

Thx

[frank sinew]

Berry delight

[craggy imp]

whats the time for knight vera @undone oxide

12s?

[undone oxide]

If I can end in 1 rot yeah

[craggy imp]

pyroath can only get 14s so sad

if i only i whaled so i can get vera sig

[distant valley]

would vera be the only one that needs a sig?
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/20645345/characters

[craggy imp]

vera nanami and wanshi

those are just dmg boosts but are huge

[ivory ermine]

Probably Pyroath too

[craggy imp]

his selena already has sig

same with pyroath

[distant valley]

all of them already have it

[ivory ermine]

I guess I didn't check them further

My apologies

[craggy imp]

vera and wanshi would benefit a lot from sig
vera > wanshi tho

[ivory ermine]

I'll see myself out

[craggy imp]

actually wanshi > vera since you already have pyroath innit

[distant valley]

adios bro

[craggy imp]

pyroaths enough to 580k all fire ppc

[distant valley]

gotcha

thanks

[stray patrol]

Eyy we started the dame day

[craggy imp]

[hollow isle]

bianca stigmata is my i think my best physical dps, should i invest on her or wait for vergil?

[craggy imp]

bianca is not very good

[hollow isle]

so wait for vergil?

[craggy imp]

if you want a trush slash dps then go for vergil

most of the time you can just skip trash slash content tho

[hollow isle]

trash slash?

i cant skip vergil cause dmc is the whole reason why i came back to pgr

[normal night]

It has very limited usages at this moment in time so heavily investing in it aint the best thing for a returner/new.

[normal night]

If that's why you returned/started then just pull em.

[stray patrol]

For the fire team

Pyroath 4main sig 4 cottie
Vera 4 shakespeare 4 cottie
Watanabe 4alphonse 4 shakespeare?

Is this right?

[craggy imp]

4alph 4dv

and pyroath uses eins although 4cot is good for break points

[hollow isle]

i know... but the question was if i should invest on bianca (for now) to clear physical related things or its not worth it

[craggy imp]

bianca isnt very good for phys content considering hanying already outdpses her and selena is on banner

[normal night]

Its 2 weeks away, you can get by without phys right now. we only have warzone phys at this moment in time.

[hollow isle]

oh, guess ill have to wait for hanying/vergil

[hollow isle]

2 weeks already? sweet

[ivory ermine]

Echo + Rigor is probably going to perform as good as Echo Rigor and Stigmata considering you barely have enough recourse to upgrade Stigmata to a decent state

[normal night]

Vergil is gonna suck for Physical though just to let you know.

[hollow isle]

i know

but i can still make him viable through teams and stuff

[undone oxide]

No you can't

Unless you S+ R3 3S CUB him then maybe

He will do better than SS Piano

[ivory ermine]

Well, despite how bad he is for Physical content

He's certainly going to be better than S rank stigmata

[undone oxide]

[hollow isle]

3whats 3S?

[ivory ermine]

But that's if you don't have Pianissimo yeah

[hollow isle]

SSS?

[normal night]

SSS+ and 3S = SSS.

[undone oxide]

SSS+ R3 SSS CUB

[hollow isle]

oh, nah i dont think ill have enough to spare for the cubs

[undone oxide]

In HSR terms: E11S4 and CUB

[hollow isle]

E6

[undone oxide]

No 11 bcs you need 11 copies

[normal night]

You need multiple copies for rank up so its not as simple as E6.

[hollow isle]

i know, but E6 is max, and SSS+ is max in pgr

soo

[undone oxide]

[hollow isle]

just feels right

[undone oxide]

Well it's not the main point so

[hollow isle]

i only got 37k currently

[normal night]

You can get the basic investment, we still have 2 weeks and the DMC patch is gonna give roughly 11k.

[hollow isle]

alright

[ivory ermine]

Hmm

23.000

[iron mason]

Atleast i not need to worried about that patch finally

[ashen willow]

Any replacement for Shukra in ice team?

[ivory ermine]

I think I'll get Vergil

Just out of curiosity

[normal night]

I'm just buying the pack myself.

[ivory ermine]

I should be fine, already bought some Monthly for more Black cards

[red sleet]

I'll get Bianca for Dark dps and Ulti slash

[ivory ermine]

What kind of pack is it?

[normal night]

It's not the greatest value but its 30 shards/frags of dante or vergil depending on what pack you buy ofc.

[ivory ermine]

Really?

How much?

[normal night]

Its gonna be 299 iirc.

[ivory ermine]

Hmm

[regal wigeon]

help i keep dying to this move how do i even dodge it i tried it and it just doesnt work my team is weak as hell they dont have their sigs and rank phase

[ivory ermine]

How much is that in US dollars

[ivory ermine]

I see

Wait

Is it just 30 shards?

Can I just unlock Vergil that way?

[craggy imp]

dont dodge just hit him

[normal night]

Yeah that's what I am doing.

[craggy imp]

oh wait nvm no sig and ss

[normal night]

Oh wait we can't

[craggy imp]

uh just pray you get a run under 3 minutes

[normal night]

we need 50

[ivory ermine]

Ouch

[normal night]

My brain actually forgot the other 20 shards.

Mb G.

[ivory ermine]

It's fine

[regal wigeon]

im screwed my team is weak ashell 😭

can i even iframe it

[craggy imp]

if you had SS and sig we couldve helped

but idk rots for S becasue we have none

[ivory ermine]

Actually, I might get some more packs in the next version to complete Vergil and probably his team

Do we know what kind of packs we're going to get ?

[normal night]

If you gimme a sec, i'll get you the post I saw.

[ivory ermine]

Okay

[sweet sand]

no - that’s why it’s better to get Qu than Wata lol

[craggy imp]

nah wata is better if you cant invest for qu definitely

[normal night]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1kt14fy/dmc_collab_rc_shop_packs_and_their_value/ Take with a grain of salt ofc but its roughly this.

[ivory ermine]

Thanks

[craggy imp]

you could keep bringing the argument that you can just use nanami but she doesnt work in ppc

[regal wigeon]

for whom?

[normal night]

No worries.

[craggy imp]

for pyroath and vera

[sweet sand]

of course Wata is better than Nanami, but what I’m saying is that Nanami can be a good replacement for Wata

[regal wigeon]

i have many frames to ss and sig im almost bout to ss nanami and saving for her wep but i just have alot of frames to invest on

[hollow egret]

there's no meaning in that btw, true slash just another 'element', they all equal

[craggy imp]

yea but im js it doesnt work for ppc since she has to be in rotation for her shred to actually work so its a huge time loss, wanshi can solo most of the ppcs just fine

emperor might be a little sus if you dont have SSS wanshi but its alright

[ivory ermine]

Hmmm

[sweet sand]

why can’t you accept my argument? you’re only bringing up PPC - what about WZ? what about when there’s no Fire content, like last week, where the Fire team wasn’t even usable? all I’m saying is, spread out your team investment

[craggy imp]

no i am accepting it im just bringing up the other side of the argument that is ppc which she is not good for

[ivory ermine]

Wait

What is the current version name again?

[lunar rampart]

Wata is generally better

In most cases it should be wata

I've only seen a few instances where qu is better

[normal night]

Dream till the timeless end I think.

[ivory ermine]

Thanks

[fallen marsh]

is he good

[undone oxide]

So bad

[lunar rampart]

Poopfire

[craggy imp]

no a ranks are good

[normal night]

Hmm?

[craggy imp]

wagwan smoochse

[undone oxide]

Chillin and WuWa

[undone oxide]

The packs are

[normal night]

He's not good.

[normal night]

Yeah they aren't the greatest value.

[frank sinew]

If you're new. You should get some of the few S ranks that are new, they're really strong

[craggy imp]

he favorited nanami pulse

[fallen marsh]

also any of my units good

[frank sinew]

She's good at the start. I favorited Lucia Lotus at the start

[craggy imp]

all of your unit are outdated

[fallen marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/peta-farbar-petr-farbar-peter-farbar-gif-15417317830124358582

[craggy imp]

lotus was ass

i only liked lucia for pyro

[fallen marsh]

Im still new

[frank sinew]

Shut

Lotus honestly felt good to play. Also a really good character for teaching core skills and stuff

[craggy imp]

i skipped allat

[glad birch]

Should I pull new Vera weapon first or Lucia weapon first?

[craggy imp]

lucia

[pastel ledge]

O feel like x3 is so fast

[craggy imp]

wait which lucia

[glad birch]

Pyroath

[craggy imp]

actually both are similar priority

vera needs it cuz shes the main dps and pyroath needs it for proper rotations

[glad birch]

Hmmm

[craggy imp]

depends on who you ask

[frank sinew]

If you're new. Just play whoever character you enjoy. And when you get a bit farther, try to claim the free S rank units. I recommend getting Alpha Crimson Weave, she's free and she's super fun. Check her on the Thunderbolt Manual on the event tab (left side on menu)

[winged turret]

Invincibility frames

[glad birch]

So Vera doesn't need much unless she wanna be main dps?

Or she has to be main dps

[craggy imp]

she IS the main dps but pyro needs her sigs for proper rotation

[winged turret]

You can you just need Alisa on lingya cub

[craggy imp]

where as vera needs her sig to double rot

[undone oxide]

Vera needs sig to become main DPS too

[glad birch]

Oh doubling her damage

[undone oxide]

PPC finisher, WZ never use

[craggy imp]

id say vera > pyroath tho since rn i assume you just need it for ppc which vera can solo ppc just fine

[cerulean anvil]

vera is not a valid weapon name. Please try again.

[glad birch]

She can solo it?

[craggy imp]

although plasma warzone is this week

[craggy imp]

@undone oxide send your ppc footage

can you rename yourself "vera IS main dps"

[glad birch]

Alright

[undone oxide]

[craggy imp]

[glad birch]

Does Vera need like SS3

[craggy imp]

no just SS

[glad birch]

Or SSS

Okay thanks

[undone oxide]

Is this okay

[craggy imp]

at SS3 and below vera does more dmg than pyroath

[craggy imp]

that works ig

[glad birch]

This CN merge bricked my account too fast lmao

[craggy imp]

@undone oxide if i dont get it in the next pull i kiwi

[autumn fable]

Vera or nanami..who needs their cubs more?

[craggy imp]

would you look at that

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WTF

[normal night]

Bianca is now homeless.

[craggy imp]

o7

its fine vera still has no reso i can cope with main dps lucia

until next week when norman resets

[undone oxide]

Hax

[craggy imp]

kuro doesnt want me to kiwi

[undone oxide]

I can see the day Nergi buy MP

[craggy imp]

idc if i brick myself atp

[undone oxide]

Just skip DMC

[craggy imp]

i will never spend money

dmc is savings patch anyways so i think ill be fine

[normal night]

If you skip DMC, Bianca won't be homeless.

[craggy imp]

ofc why wouldnt I

welp i have all meta characters with sigs now

thats cool..Ig..

only took 3 months

[glad birch]

I forgot to chance my weapon selection to Vera weapon

And pulled pyroath weapon instead

[craggy imp]

what

[glad birch]

I should have paid attention

[craggy imp]

its ok pyroath can do shortie relatively fast too

[pastel ledge]

Wait dmc update is still x3?

[glad birch]

No

[gray birch]

How to play gen 3 ice team (Shukra, Lucid Dreamer, Kaleido)?

[craggy imp]

@undone oxide i just made this set this morning too omgomgomgomgomgomg

[vernal zenith]

Vera:Rozen recommended leaper??

[craggy imp]

no shes incredibly old

[vernal zenith]

aight

[craggy imp]

watch wz videos

[nimble plank]

wth, why isnt it called rebellion

[gray birch]

Wz who?

[craggy imp]

watch firefly if you have SS invest only

[gray birch]

They're still at S rank, all of them

[fallen marsh]

have u played DMC 5

[undone oxide]

BluStar

[craggy imp]

then i cant help im sorry

[fallen marsh]

or at least watched it

[craggy imp]

no

[nimble plank]

I've played all of them, Dante's iconic sword is Rebellion

[undone oxide]

BluStar has SS Ice rot

[nimble plank]

wth is "devil sword dante" wtf

[craggy imp]

no

is it 12 18 30

[undone oxide]

[fallen marsh]

oh okay I guess they added Devil Sword Dante because Rebellion has already been destroyed

[gray birch]

I guess the one he's using here is not the iconic one

[craggy imp]

omg vera with sig feels so good smoochse-kun

[nimble plank]

he's not in devil trigger form all the time, it doesnt make sense to make the default name the transformed name (which really should still be called rebellion anyway, it's just upgraded)

[undone oxide]

[craggy imp]

i still cant 12s knight tho cuz no harmony

[fallen marsh]

but Dante doesn't need SDT to use Devil Sword Dante

he can still wield that in his human form

[nimble plank]

it's fine i guess, i would have preferred they separated out the three swords, but ill take it

[obsidian dust]

Does memory positioning and resonance placement matter?

[nimble plank]

minimally, not enough to mald over

[craggy imp]

not really except for reusablity

[ashen willow]

How to get a weapon resonance material? 6* btw

[normal night]

It's not enough to lose sleep over but resonance themselves of memories have importance, especially the bottom row.

[craggy imp]

from norman revival plan or use other 6* weaps as resonances

[nimble plank]

its slow, only from norman revival plan (and a certain monthly pass)

[fallen marsh]

Uhh is Lamia: Lost Lullaby recommended for new players

[obsidian dust]

why is the bottom resonance important?

[nimble plank]

I'm at 17/30 for Epitaph weapon, should i just sit on it for Bianca weapon after dmc collab

[craggy imp]

definitely not

[craggy imp]

epi doesnt really need weap

[fallen marsh]

how about Ishmael

[normal night]

Not really, she is getting replaced in a month and half give or take.

[nimble plank]

epi also seems extremely weak in a team of Vera and pyroath dps

[craggy imp]

wait gwynplaine mado and ishmael week is no longer bricked omg

[craggy imp]

he is incredibly weak when compared to the 2

[marble tinsel]

what is this how do i get more

[nimble plank]

what does epitaph do, does he plant fire weakness or something, why should ie ver switch to him

[normal night]

Because that's where the class skill/tank skill or ultimate resonances are. These are the usually most common bottom row memory resonances.

[craggy imp]

i reccomend it but nanami startrail is a better pick

[craggy imp]

what is that

[lunar rampart]

Yes

[obsidian dust]

oh those only go on the bottom row? gotcha

[lunar rampart]

You switch to him to proc off field shred

[marble tinsel]

i clicked the cost preview for a memory

[nimble plank]

is that the same for Feral, does she increase damage of the other team members startrail and CW, bc everytime i switch to her, i feel a steep drop in dps

[craggy imp]

[lunar rampart]

You don't swap to feral because you want damage lol

You swap to feral to proc lingya and as filler

[normal night]

Yeah, top row resonance is mostly orbs or +15 atk for 95% of every character.

[nimble plank]

so if you can avoid swapping to her and just use her as qte bot, you should?

But then at that point, why not just a stronger off element qte bot

[marble tinsel]

oh

[lunar rampart]

Because...

Using an off element qte bot would have INSAAAAAAANEEE damage loss overall

No innate amp or heal buff

[craggy imp]

or just use zaza its better without sss cw

[lunar rampart]

A "stronger" off element qte bot would need to be significantly significantly higher invest

[nimble plank]

who is this

[lunar rampart]

Luna with Lilith

And just solo nanami

[craggy imp]

[nimble plank]

hmm, i dont have luna, and nanami is just ss, she can't infinite rotate yet

[lunar rampart]

Yes she can

No dlt?

[nimble plank]

after like 3 ults the pings arent enough

[lunar rampart]

She can still inf rotate

[ashen willow]

Anyone useful in here

[craggy imp]

nanami can solo rot if you have dlt and lingya cub from what i know

[lunar rampart]

With a little bit of basics

Just dlt is enough

[nimble plank]

ill get DLT i guess, everyone needs dlt

[craggy imp]

rosetta if you dont have hanying

[nimble plank]

WHEN NORMAN GIVES ME MORE

[normal night]

Rigor is good if you are going to pull Selena from the debut banner.

[lunar rampart]

What

[craggy imp]

its 75 per 2 weeks rn

[lunar rampart]

Norman gives you more what

[craggy imp]

get them while you can cuz its bouta run out

[nimble plank]

more weapon resonances

[obsidian dust]

Do you use Rosetta on field or is she only QTE bot?

[lunar rampart]

If selena, qte bot

[craggy imp]

for selena only qte bot

[craggy imp]

twinsies

[lunar rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/holding-hands-hold-hands-couple-gif-13127612

[nimble plank]

yeah but i started 2 months ago, and they've all needed dlt>

it's a much shorter list on who doesnt need dlt as their first weapon resonance

[obsidian dust]

Great. Found she a bit clunky to play.

[craggy imp]

i mean youre not f2p right

[ashen willow]

Yeah, I have Selena and Echo already

[craggy imp]

just buy feral bp

[normal night]

Yeah then Rigor the best pick if you don't own Hanying.

[lunar rampart]

Wanshi Lucid Dreamer... Bianca Crepuscule... That's all from gen 3 so far

[craggy imp]

walter doesnt need dlt? omg first gen3 attacker without need for dlt

or just gen3 entirely

[lunar rampart]

First gen 3 so far

[craggy imp]

you could make the argument nanami doesnt need dlt if you have SSS cw

and wanshi needs it if no qu

[lunar rampart]

Assuming normal f2p invest

[craggy imp]

[nimble plank]

yes, i did, and to be fair, in those 2 months, i've given...6 chars their first resonance

and i probably need to focus on wanshi, since my shukra is shiiite, i dont like kaleido, and my ice scores are terrible

[craggy imp]

dont need to like ayla

shes replacable if ishmael is higher invest

i didnt even get ayla from dorm since my ish is SSR1

[nimble plank]

oh i have this

[lunar rampart]

SS0 5* ayla vs SS0 R3 ishmael

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320940656738173032.webp?size=48&animated=true

[craggy imp]

she will rot till the end of time

[fallen marsh]

Is she good i just got her

[craggy imp]

all aranks are bad

[lunar rampart]

Decent for now

[nimble plank]

all a ranks are filler

[craggy imp]

use them if you want

its early game so it doesnt matter

[lunar rampart]

Since toue my roster is drier than my balls

[fallen marsh]

Damn that's one life quote to remember

[frank sinew]

HAHA GAA-

[lunar rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-guns-gif-11247557

[nimble plank]

jetavie's playstyle is fun though

[green helm]

should i run 4dv2ein or 4shake2ein on wata in fire ppc?

[craggy imp]

if you call holding a button till eternity fun then sure

[lunar rampart]

Experiment with both

[nimble plank]

And the design is what Camellya should have BEEN

[craggy imp]

vera holds shakes

4dv 2ein for no sig will be better

[nimble plank]

yes, vera's fun the same way 😄

[lunar rampart]

In my ppc run vera didn't hold shakes

[green helm]

oh mine has 4dv2guin

no sig

[lunar rampart]

Yeah get rid of that

[craggy imp]

i mean, she at least has some form of thinking when you double rot her

[lunar rampart]

She's not a qte bot anymore

[craggy imp]

no sig

[nimble plank]

idk, i find vera the simplest char to play

[craggy imp]

actually no sig for hell i used her main dps set

[green helm]

oh really? so whats the rotation then? my pyroath is ss0 with sig

[lunar rampart]

Vera is the mdps at equal invest

[craggy imp]

[lunar rampart]

Might be a bit harder for you since you don't have dlt

[green helm]

pyroath has dlt

[lunar rampart]

No vera doesn't

[green helm]

oh ye

[lunar rampart]

Why in tf are you using billie on vera

[craggy imp]

5% edb and 100 atk im homeless

[lunar rampart]

Is that even better than 10% fire dmg

[craggy imp]

my pyroath is holding it

and i have no other yuan yes

[lunar rampart]

You don't have 2 fire cubs?

[craggy imp]

no

[lunar rampart]

Me neither

[craggy imp]

[lunar rampart]

Wait no pyro has her cub

[craggy imp]

this was vera no sig as well

[lunar rampart]

Wata on lingya and vera on yuanye

[green helm]

so i swap from wata, do 1 full pyroath ult and swap to vera?

[craggy imp]

vera has no cub for me

[green helm]

while vera holds 4shake?

[craggy imp]

from wata 3p > pyroath 1s1e > vera 1 ult + half ult

[lunar rampart]

Why u no dodge cancel

[urban island]

Im going to get ishmael and starrail nanami from annivesary banner next patch so does this two really need they signature weapon?

[craggy imp]

to get enough energy for her 2nd ult

[lunar rampart]

The basic attacks

You have enough anyway

[craggy imp]

if i dodge cancel all its not enough energy

[craggy imp]

both need it

[lunar rampart]

Unless you're not using cottie?

[green helm]

1s1e means?

[craggy imp]

i am

[lunar rampart]

Vera should have enough energy then

[craggy imp]

i dodged cancel everything the previous runs and not enough energy

[nimble plank]

does anyone know the cost of those packages in shop that give dante/vergil 30 shards

[lunar rampart]

Skill eesyu smh

[craggy imp]

1hold ult 1 tap ult

[green helm]

oh okay

[craggy imp]

???? skill issue when the game doesnt give me enough energy?

[green helm]

how do i do vera half ult?

[lunar rampart]

U not doing it properly

[craggy imp]

its just her ult1

[green helm]

oh okay

[nimble plank]

halfway through the ult, close the app

[green helm]

she holds 4shake2ein right? (no sig)

[green helm]

damn 🤯

[craggy imp]

i did 4shakes2cot so i can minmax time

[lunar rampart]

4shakes 2cottie

[green helm]

ah alright

thanks

[craggy imp]

she doesnt get enough energy smh

am i supposed to be blocking everything

still not enough smh

[lunar rampart]

Sig doesn't give extra energy

[green helm]

i really wanna try and pull vera sig but dmc is around the corner

[nimble plank]

does anyone know how many DMC specific pulls we get, not counting the BC we accumulate before/during* patch

[lunar rampart]

You should have enough if you dodge cancel her hold basic

If you're not getting enough it's because you're cancelling her entire hold basic

[craggy imp]

i dont bomboclyaat i dont get enough energy

[lunar rampart]

Idk what ur doing

[hollow egret]

small amount mb for like 10 pulls or even less

[lunar rampart]

But she should have enough

[craggy imp]

my vera is defficient

[lunar rampart]

Volskyius shows you

Watch volskyius vid

[nimble plank]

anniversary patches usually do more than this, but i havent been here for a pgr anniversary, just 10 really?

[lunar rampart]

You're taking too long to hold basic again

[hollow egret]

anniversary part give select banner and orange cards for 10 pulls, orange one not work for dmc

[craggy imp]

yea i only get enough if i dont cancel the basics

which i didnt do for the 24s run

[lunar rampart]

smh

[nimble plank]

yeah yeah, im talking specifically about pulls for dante and vergil, not about the orange cards

there's 2 events that give it, it sucks if it's only total 10 pulls

[hollow egret]

as i said dmc quests reward you with like 10 special pulls or less. It's special cards for dmc only, so if you aim to get vergil dante then you need to save black cards for it

also this patch is x1, so you get less rewards overall

[nimble plank]

i have 59k bc atm, i was expecting to have enough for just ss + sig and cub, but i think i could potentially go for SSS now, im just looking at all the resources i can accumulate

watch me get screweeed on the weapon banner

wait is dmc weapon banner 100%

[hollow egret]

if you lucky you can get sss for one of them, but at least you guarantee ss+sig+cubs for both of them with ur bc amounts

[ivory ermine]

Nope

But it's not really as bad as you would think

[nimble plank]

even if it's bad once, i just need it to not be bad ever on dmc

[ivory ermine]

Because we also have Calibration system

[nimble plank]

whats this

[ivory ermine]

Guarantee the next weapon drop if you lose the rate up

[nimble plank]

ok that's a given, i was expecting that

[normal night]

If you off rate one of the brothers weps, its possible you can get the other, then you have 100% to get the other.

[nimble plank]

the offrate pool is just the DMC stuff?

[nimble plank]

oh wth it's literally just 3 weapons? this isnt bad at all

[lunar rampart]

Wouldve been insane if it was cw

[nimble plank]

why is luna special lol

[green helm]

ehh i have around 6k bc. should i just pull vera sig? my pity there is 16/30. i hope ill have enough for dmc after some grinding

[nimble plank]

dont pull with BC

[craggy imp]

you wont have enough for dmc

[normal night]

Save if you are aiming for DMC.

[craggy imp]

its either get vera sig or save for dmc

[ivory ermine]

You probably should hold that

[green helm]

oh boy, alright

[craggy imp]

no in between

[ivory ermine]

Geiravor weapon banner is permanent

[green helm]

nah ill save

[ivory ermine]

But not the DMC collaboration banner

[green helm]

yeah, true

[nimble plank]

Is Dante's Cub Trish

[normal night]

Nah, its the bike from DMC 5.

[nimble plank]

aw man, i was hoping it was lady or trish

Vergi;

cub should be nero

[ivory ermine]

Uhhh

How is that going to work

Miniature nero

[nimble plank]

why miniature, nero has to be full size, and run around on all fours, maybe with Red queen for arms, and you can rev and ride him like a motorcycle

[normal night]

Nero..I mean Noan is already in the game.

[lunar rampart]

:worr

Oh man

[ivory ermine]

Huh

[lunar rampart]

My keyoarr

[ivory ermine]

Is it dead?

[nimble plank]

i hope lady and trish have cameo appearances in story at least

[lunar rampart]

[ivory ermine]

Also what is that name

[lunar rampart]

No im outside my phone is in a plastic bag

Storm "Dante" is coming tomorrow

Double trouble

[nimble plank]

thre anniversary patch has a 100% rate up on chars...is that in the basic banner? I have 40/60 on it for a random s rank, but i wanna hold it

[normal night]

Nope, its a different banner.

[nimble plank]

oof orange cards

[craggy imp]

[vital helm]

Hey all quick question, are you able to use the same CUB on different characters on Phantom Pain Cage? Like can I swap the same one onto a different character after their stamina is done or is it locked off?

[stray patrol]

For 4 shkes 4 cottie vera. What reso do u need?

Attk upper
Sig bottom?

[ivory ermine]

You can use the same Cub that you've already used in the other bosses in Phantom Pain Cage

Only the characters that are locked, all of the equipment remain unbothered

[vital helm]

ty friend 🙏

tfw you pick the ultimate difficulty in ppc by accident... wish me luck

[normal night]

Outlier is a good thing to use while you are accidentally in ultimate ppc

[red wing]

Yes

[craggy imp]

Yep

[stray patrol]

Thank u

[vital helm]

there is hope! thanks!

[marble path]

Nergi where

I need that ppc advice

[zinc rock]

where can i read something about equilibrium field?

[frank sinew]

@craggy imp

[marble path]

[umbral grail]

i only got 39k BC for the collab can i somehow get all the double pulls sigs and cubs?

[hearty palm]

I still don't know where can I play the piano

Was it a previous patch?

[normal night]

You could double pull the sigs but honestly...incredibly unlikely and the cubs are 100% rate up so no double pull for both brothers cubs.

[umbral grail]

i meant the characters lol

i still dont know whats the go to way to farm the balck cards tho

feels too slow as of now

[craggy imp]

just watch windlao smile

[normal night]

Weeklies, Story and events are pretty much the best way to get bc.

[umbral grail]

alr thank you

[uneven siren]

Best build for lilith?

[craggy imp]

4barcelo 4cot dark main dps

[marble path]

U are my dalao

[normal night]

4 Barcelo and 4 Cottie .

[craggy imp]

4dv 4guin for other content

[craggy imp]

my runs are so much slower than his tho

cuz i have poverty invest + i dont wanna build more sets

[marble path]

That's why U are my dalao

Ur not a whale

[craggy imp]

[marble path]

Or are u

[storm harness]

[marble path]

[exotic dagger]

[craggy imp]

i would never whel

not cuz i dont want to its cuz i cant

[exotic dagger]

brokie

[craggy imp]

✅

[sudden prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

[craggy imp]

[undone oxide]

Anyone need PPC help

Else I’m gonna do it now

[craggy imp]

@marble path

[marble path]

?

[craggy imp]

wait what time did you get for tb

[craggy imp]

hes gonna help with ppc

[cerulean anvil]

Chaos 0:12

Final Score: 178369

[craggy imp]

no i meant hell

[cerulean anvil]

Hell 0:13

Final Score: 355592

[craggy imp]

did you use patton

[undone oxide]

SS3 Flower

[craggy imp]

do you not use blue for ss3

ah ss3 doubles her flower ult bar from concerto orbs

[undone oxide]

6 Orbs then Flower

[craggy imp]

[gentle hawk]

Blue is too whel to use

[craggy imp]

no blue to flower ult for tb

[gentle hawk]

[craggy imp]

[marble path]

Ohh

It's ok for now I'll asktmr

Cuz I'ma sleep soon

[craggy imp]

i dont think he can help he has whel invest

[craggy imp]

aw ok gn

[undone oxide]

whel what

[craggy imp]

whel invest

[undone oxide]

Who

[craggy imp]

ok ill do my ppc too ig

[craggy imp]

you

[undone oxide]

I’m never whel

[craggy imp]

whel

3S nanami

[undone oxide]

What time did you got for Ish

[craggy imp]

hell?

[cerulean anvil]

Chaos 0:19

Final Score: 174400

[undone oxide]

I need to do 44

[cerulean anvil]

Chaos 0:21

Final Score: 173284

[craggy imp]

ill 600k her in 2 weeks

[crude arrow]

could pianissimio work with virgil

[craggy imp]

no theyre both attackers

[crude arrow]

cant u have 2 attackers thouigh?

[lavish silo]

never recommended

[craggy imp]

the dps of the team decreases drasticly

[lavish silo]

it's always been attacker-tank-amplifier

[craggy imp]

a team without tank or amp is a dead team
a team without attackers sometimes works if the attacker is mid

[gentle hawk]

If u play in casual mode then go, but for competitive one no

[bright sun]

Will the blue banner reset next patch?

[crude arrow]

tanks dont need to be the same element though right

[craggy imp]

have to

[craggy imp]

we dont know, it might be on cn anni but not confirmed

[bright sun]

I see

[crude arrow]

guess im gonna use brilliance for pianissimo

[craggy imp]

nanami storm works better if you dont have rosetta

[gentle hawk]

Why many people thought blue banner reset on dmc patch tho? Dmc patch dont even an anniv patch on cn

[crude arrow]

should i get her with the selector then?

[gentle hawk]

And yea we dont know when blue banner will reset to predict it

[undone oxide]

I think they ask that for every patch

[bright sun]

I think cuz the dmc patch and dark bianca patch are merged

[gentle hawk]

Hurm, already become a beggar huh

[craggy imp]

no?

[gentle hawk]

No

[craggy imp]

Cn is gonna crashout if they did that

[bright sun]

Wait really? I guess I got some inaccurate news

[gentle hawk]

Bianca probably merged with discord/veronica but not dmc

[undone oxide]

That is not how I would phrase it but okay

[craggy imp]

also they want to squeeze as much money as possible from dmc

[lavish silo]

no wonder the anniv rewards got delayed

[gentle hawk]

Where do u get tho?

[bright sun]

Saw someone post about it on tt

[bronze crane]

is the game down? i keep getting login error stuff even though im on 300 mbps

[craggy imp]

just clever marketing tbh

[gentle hawk]

There will be small maintenance but i forgot when, is it supposed to be now?

[lavish silo]

yea, I'm just disappointed as someone who doesn't care for the collab

I heard next patch is a dry one

[undone oxide]

@craggy imp

[gentle hawk]

Dead patch

[lavish silo]

and I heard this from someone who played in jp (currently in dmc patch)

[bronze crane]

idk i cant get in

login network error stuff

[craggy imp]

whel

[undone oxide]

What

[tired pebble]

Is Vera's sig a need? Or can I skip it for now to save for the dmc collab?

[craggy imp]

good to have especially when shes the main dps

imo if you already have pyroath you dont need it

[gentle hawk]

The maintenance supposedly tomorrow on 8 pm for 2 hours (server time) and i have no problem login to the game dunno why u cant enter the game tho

[bronze crane]

i got in now, i just reseted my pc

[gentle hawk]

I see then

[gentle hawk]

She still works fine without her sig

[tired pebble]

Alr then

Guess I'll save

[craggy imp]

its still enough to 580k gwyn so its all g

[honest iris]

How long will the DMC collab last??

[bronze crane]

do i get watanabe sig or Selena sig?

[crude arrow]

with rigor i just need to upg her qte leap right

[craggy imp]

selena by a lot

[craggy imp]

aug 6th

[craggy imp]

no need if shes just a qte bot

[gentle hawk]

42 days like this patch i guess, since someone predict bianca patch on sept 17

6 weeks

[crude arrow]

oh so i can keep her leap at lv 1?

cus leaps are expsneive

[honest iris]

How to get BC fast??

[ember panther]

do da weeklies and play da game

[honest iris]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[thorny spear]

Is the BP worth it , the 2 of em , should I buy it?

[ember panther]

stay f2p 🤫

[gentle hawk]

Speedrun everything or swipe

[thorny spear]

Alr I'll try but I have the urge

[iron mason]

If u wanna spend the 2nd or 3rd best value

[honest iris]

BP is 100% worth it

[gentle hawk]

Tier 2 mainly for cub tix while tier 3 mainly for yellow tix, up to u

[ember panther]

realistically if you don't pull a 🧱 move you should have enough for every char not including sigs

[rich jewel]

Do Event tickets turn into black cards after this event is over? Or are they just discarded?

[ember panther]

wdym event tickets? the yellow pulls?

no, they're their own thing

[rich jewel]

@ember panther I think so. It's the pulls for Vera and pianissimo

[ember panther]

ye those aren't converted or anything

they stay from patch to patch

consider them the same as bc but less useful since you can't convert them to the type of pull you want or use them on dmc

[shell matrix]

physical team no Hanying, need alternative team and memo 🙂

[ember panther]

use rosetta if you have her

[proven hamlet]

Rosetta

[shell matrix]

Don't have

[rich jewel]

@ember panther Okay. Cause I obtained enough to get Vera, and there is a couple of side activities I can do to get another 2500. So I was thinking of spending the remaining yellow tickets on the fate banner in a vein attempt to try and get pianissimo since I don't have enough for pity

[shell matrix]

[ember panther]

don't pull on fate it is scam ❌

[proven hamlet]

Then Brilliance (the A-rank)

[craggy imp]

nanami is better

[proven hamlet]

Though at this point its better to just have a second physical attacker

[ember panther]

ok but nanami's voice is like nails on chalkboard

[quick bronze]

[proven hamlet]

I never know whether its pulse or storm, so I refrain of mentioning her

[rich jewel]

@ember panther I know it is a scam for the most part, but since pity won't carry over to the next event, I think it might be best to take my chances with the fate banner regardless of the incremental increased chance of pull.

[ember panther]

🧱

[proven hamlet]

Its better to not bet on luck

[rocky fox]

if you know pity wont carry over then if you brick youre cooked complaetely

your logic doesnt make sense

[proven hamlet]

It cant guarantee, then skip and wait for a better opportunity

[rich jewel]

What does it mean to brick? @rocky fox

[rocky fox]

you pull fate and dont get anything

also youre talking about vera banner?

[ember panther]

to mess up your account for a while due to a decision you make

[proven hamlet]

Can happen, especially if the pity extends far beyond 80

[rocky fox]

pity does carry over

[quick bronze]

look what i had running on pyro

[old garnet]

Will event tickets not be used at all in the next patch?

[lavish silo]

No

[proven hamlet]

I mean, thats her fire build nowadays

[rich jewel]

@rocky fox yeah I already got the pity and pulled Vera. So pity will carry over?

[old garnet]

Ahh

[quick bronze]

[lavish silo]

anniversary banner does use event tickets though

[rocky fox]

if you have left over pity from current event banner it will carry over to the next one

pity carries over for same type of banner

[rich jewel]

@rocky fox ah okay I thought that it didn't. I'll just use the rest for pity increase then! Thanks!

[rocky fox]

its best to just save the rest for next banner

[sudden prairie]

Who can be used in place of solace for phys team?

[rocky fox]

the next banner is dmc collab so pity doesnt carry over to that

[craggy imp]

rosetta with 6* or nanami storm with 5*

[proven hamlet]

I used that 6* weapon selector on tonitrus

[old garnet]

When is this

[sudden prairie]

There was a link floating around here that was a google doc that showed all the characters and how relevant they are from left to right

and i cannot find it now

[proven hamlet]

Aug 6

[old garnet]

Oo I’d want that too

[old garnet]

Thank you

[proven hamlet]

I believe it will

[old garnet]

Will save for then

[sudden prairie]

@old garnet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SusxJ3tYwsBqY3dPwJ9BG2tDW0ox5GqVJgGZHYnAqa8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[old garnet]

Bless

[proven hamlet]

Skip DMC, pull for missing meta characters

[old garnet]

That’s what I’m gonna do

I just started so I only have my fire team

Need more meta

Is watanabe epitaph a free ss

Mine is stick on s and wondering if it’ll be like that for a while

[sudden prairie]

we are getting an anni selector during dps so you should be able to fill some more gaps

[proven hamlet]

Everyone SS is free

[old garnet]

Ohhhh

[sudden prairie]

any unit you get will be SS for free due to PPC skulls

[old garnet]

Ok ok thanks

[sudden prairie]

I'm seeing a lot of different phys selena rotations going around
Does her rot change drastically between SS0 and SS3?

[craggy imp]

yes because at ss3 she can spam flower ults

ss3 is massive to selena

[sudden prairie]

Oh that's a pretty big change

[gentle hawk]

Yes phys selena has different rotation for ss0 and ss3 but not glacio selena

[proven hamlet]

SS3 is slowly becoming standard for every unit

[sudden prairie]

yeah glacio is the same thankfully

[sudden prairie]

inflation has hit pgr

[proven hamlet]

Wanna 580k on new boss? Pull for SS3

[craggy imp]

thats not even true tho

exaggerated a tiny bit

[proven hamlet]

Yeah

But I dont like where this is going

[craggy imp]

you can 600k gwyn with SS vera

[gentle hawk]

Ss3 attackers get busted qte after doing their ult, sss tanks get -3s switch cd, sss amps get refresh qte for each swap

So yeah, ss3 attackers gonna be standard, while other ss3 for extra shred/ buff dmg and their affix dmg

[sudden prairie]

I got lucky with my piano getting her twice so thnkfully I can ppc her to SS3 but maaaaaaaaan thats such a drag knowing that

[craggy imp]

man

i went to pity for those

at least im lucky with weapons

[gentle hawk]

Yessa since ss is free

[sudden prairie]

dont worry ull get walter at 20

[gentle hawk]

That's why they do that to milk us

[sudden prairie]

[craggy imp]

@sudden prairie

[sudden prairie]

LOL

[craggy imp]

ill get dps vera next weekc uz rn no harmo or reso

[sudden prairie]

still cant believe vera dps ended up doing more than pyroath

and her rot has way less sht going on

[ember panther]

counterpoint pyroath is cooler

doing the flying slashes is so satisfying 🤤

[craggy imp]

pyroath is still meta in plasma ofc

[proven hamlet]

Vera smile tho

[sudden prairie]

vera smile is peak

[craggy imp]

vera feels so satisfying to play

[proven hamlet]

And Darth Maul gameplay

[craggy imp]

the dodge cancels omg

[sudden prairie]

but doing the pyro rot FEEELS so nice

[ember panther]

vera feels kinda monke brained

[brittle terrace]

[sudden prairie]

oh she is LOL

[proven hamlet]

Dog brained

[gentle hawk]

Too meta to give pb wz for 3 weeks straight, im bored already

[craggy imp]

yea i kinda wanna do glacio

i wanna compare 222 155 100 to 22.32 111 111

[brittle terrace]

lovee pyroath she seems rly cool and vera is simple but satisfying

[rocky fox]

what is 155

[sudden prairie]

Speaking of glacio, now that I've gotten the piano HA down, ITS SO MUCH FUN TO DO

[craggy imp]

5*

[gentle hawk]

U have 5 weap reso? Wow

[craggy imp]

[gentle hawk]

[craggy imp]

did i type it wrong hol on

[gentle hawk]

See the writing here

[dire sonnet]

do we notate 5* as -1?

[sudden prairie]

I've chosen to understand this notation chart later.

[craggy imp]

i note 5* as 5 like most people

[gentle hawk]

That i dunno

[craggy imp]

it makes the most sense imo

[dire sonnet]

true

5* R3

[gentle hawk]

U gotta need to ask for the malder one

[sudden prairie]

theres a worse version of this?

[gentle hawk]

Even i only knew this notation now when i already played for almost 2 years

[sudden prairie]

Also I finally got wata to SS, my fire team is finally functioning

[dire sonnet]

super confusing at first

[dire sonnet]

nice

[gentle hawk]

My brain not functioning

[sudden prairie]

its kinda ugly, esp this part

the multiple ways to do SS3 and SS0 and SSS0 just make it one way

[craggy imp]

2.3 makes the most sense

[gentle hawk]

I suppose

[sudden prairie]

2.3 does make the most sense

[craggy imp]

[rocky fox]

how mfs be feeling after typing 3.0 instead of 3

[sudden prairie]

LIKE

WHY ARE WE MAKING EXTRA INSTEAD OF 3

[proven hamlet]

2.0

[forest barn]

How come ss3 can be 2.1 or 2.3 but sss3 can't be 3.3

[gentle hawk]

Dont ask us

We dont know the ans

[rocky fox]

some ppl want to feel special

2.3 is what most ppl type

[gentle hawk]

I heard cn players made that notation

[craggy imp]

makes sense

[gentle hawk]

[proven hamlet]

[stable pilot]

Who should i pick

[craggy imp]

nanami

[bleak otter]

Nanami

[gentle hawk]

Nanami

[stable pilot]

But why her i need reasons

[ebon dagger]

Easy to play and does tons of damage

[gentle hawk]

Lightning, plasma beam, ignition, glow

[craggy imp]

shes the most busted character in the game, shes the entire lightning team and carries 4 other teams

[stable pilot]

Ok ty guys

[gentle hawk]

U got to be in 4 teams just by building her

[bleak otter]

Strongest char for now
The best in her class - tank
Free to play friendly
Works in several elements and affixes
Flexible and easy sky rocket damage

[ebon dagger]

What harmony on jetavie ?

[stable pilot]

What about luna

[subtle shale]

How does vergil compare to selena and dante compare to lucia pyroath?

[bleak otter]

Piece of trash

[stable pilot]

Dante mentioned

[proven hamlet]

Good to have, but not priority

[stable pilot]

Ok nanami it is

[bleak otter]

Nanami

[gentle hawk]

In phys and fire, dmc not worth mentioning as dmc meta in their affix

[bleak otter]

Luna is a qte bot rn

[stable pilot]

Tho i thought luna was good with ishmael

[proven hamlet]

She is

[subtle shale]

What is affix?

[umbral grail]

how do you even clear norman revival plan part 5

[proven hamlet]

But that's one team

[stable pilot]

Fair

[umbral grail]

second stage is so hard

[stable pilot]

I wanted to know cuz o accidentally pulled ishmael

[gentle hawk]

New system, it's kinda like sub element

[umbral grail]

do i have to whale on my characters? or play the game like a damn soulslike

[subtle shale]

"accidentally"

[stable pilot]

Yeah misclicked the banner

I dont even mnow how

[subtle shale]

Avg gacha addict

[subtle shale]

I see

[bleak otter]

They are both one part of the nihil team. Luna is a kind of burst damage dealer, while Ishmael deals sustainably high damage for the whole time on field.
Though Luna feels weak anyway

[viscid sequoia]

Ss sig on main dps is enough

[gentle hawk]

Just left her for now, nihil content kinda forgotten

[stable pilot]

I picked entropy

[umbral grail]

my crimson waeve just gets destroyed she has 6.7k bp too

[proven hamlet]

Nihil occasionally appears, this week' wz and cr has nihil

[gentle hawk]

Yes after a month kek

[umbral grail]

dont wanna use startrail cuz there are other stages and i dont have enough teams

[bleak otter]

Nihil is a mistake

[craggy imp]

I’m glad it was gone

[bleak otter]

[craggy imp]

Cw is an old and weak character

[gentle hawk]

I even forgot 2.3 ishmael rotation now, need to relearn it again, dang it