📨・general-help

[brittle terrace]

One of them atleast

[craggy imp]

Really hope they are just a free unit one of them

[brittle terrace]

Hell yeah, sss r3

[quick bronze]

i did not sss lilith do not like her gameplay i pref her to be davinci bot

[brittle terrace]

Fair

[quick bronze]

[craggy imp]

Solo Bianca?

She’s probably sufficient enough to solo

[brittle terrace]

I like lil but not solo

Id prefer to switch

[quick bronze]

orb regen goes crazy

i have her with 5star on cn

[craggy imp]

Does she need dlt for dark swap

[quick bronze]

i think with ss3 would be possible

cause u get orbs back

[brittle terrace]

Im getting that ss3

I must

[craggy imp]

I’m getting that..SS

[brittle terrace]

[quick bronze]

i still have the basic banner selector

[brittle terrace]

Isnt ss3 really good?

[quick bronze]

wanted to hold for liv but idk if it gets reset by then

[craggy imp]

Assuming liv isn’t released during cn Anni probably not

[quick bronze]

have to wait for global release cn no on ttalks

[craggy imp]

[brittle terrace]

Damn, cuz idk if ill be skipping anni banner

[quick bronze]

translation might be wrong idk

[quick bronze]

what u missing

[craggy imp]

A lot of words

[craggy imp]

They’re missing Luna and pyroath

[brittle terrace]

A lot

[craggy imp]

Oh and hanying

[brittle terrace]

Yup-

[quick bronze]

damn

[brittle terrace]

Wow good memory hun

[quick bronze]

dmc gonna be a bit boring for me

[craggy imp]

[quick bronze]

not pulling any char and its just them

[brittle terrace]

Yeah..

[craggy imp]

Yea it’s just entirely savings patch

Maybe I’ll pull Vera sig when I have enough HTs

[brittle terrace]

Boring but atleast ill be a bit less poor

[brittle terrace]

You should.

[craggy imp]

I have 2k bc after pulling Luna sig

I’ll have like 16k by the end of dmc maybe

Still have at least 4K from story

[brittle terrace]

Farm something, 10 pull? 3sigs in one

[quick bronze]

bianca patch will have alot of bc again

[craggy imp]

Ye

Does cn even celebrate 5.5 Anni

[brittle terrace]

Got any estimates?

[quick bronze]

selector for my qu

[craggy imp]

Ig they did with the selector and pulls

[brittle terrace]

Dmc is like 11k

[quick bronze]

i think when i logged in i just got 5k from mail already

[craggy imp]

[brittle terrace]

Wait how much left for tjis patch

[quick bronze]

20days?

[craggy imp]

Like 9k from weeklies, a little more from Norman and clash

And dailies too

[brittle terrace]

How many bc?

[brittle terrace]

Ah lovely

[languid pasture]

what should be my priority now

[craggy imp]

About 12k left

[craggy imp]

Ishmael doesn’t work in phys team btw

[brittle terrace]

Shpuld i just assume arpund 10k?

[craggy imp]

Better to use nanami storm

[brittle terrace]

Ah okay

[languid pasture]

yeah im missing a phys tank

[quick bronze]

dont have rosetta picked from the beginer mission selector?

[craggy imp]

You can use nanami storm with 5* or Rosetta with 6* but I recommend just getting tonitrus for Alisa

[brittle terrace]

Ight that'll all be gone on sigs

[languid pasture]

nope, nobody told me to pick rosetta at that time

[quick bronze]

[craggy imp]

[atomic arch]

norman gives bc?

[craggy imp]

Theb nanami storm with 5* will suffice

[brittle terrace]

So ig 11k from dmc and the bianca patch for bianca and praydge ss3

[craggy imp]

Yea 400, 1200 cuz of triple

Clash gives rnd tickets not bc btw

[atomic arch]

triple patch scales a lot huh im definitely going to miss it 😔

[craggy imp]

It won’t be gone for long

My brain is so cooked

[atomic arch]

after bianca it will 😭

[craggy imp]

At least the characters won’t be as quickly replaced

[brittle terrace]

And then prob only ss veronica/liv with sss for the other if dorm unit

[stable pilot]

hii does anyone know how much copies i need to sss+ an s rank?

[brittle terrace]

💀

10?

[atomic arch]

20

[languid pasture]

i think 11?

[stable pilot]

ty

[craggy imp]

From SSS to 4S is more than from S to SSS

[languid pasture]

i forgor 💀

[brittle terrace]

Ik its 4 for sss with ppc

[stable pilot]

so around 600 pulls?

[atomic arch]

nah man

[brittle terrace]

What?

[craggy imp]

It’s 3 with shards from ppc

[brittle terrace]

S + ppc is ss, then 3 more and sss

[languid pasture]

you'd go for gambling banner if you aim for sss+

[brittle terrace]

Yeah if u already have the s rank

[craggy imp]

3 copies, 4 pulls

[stable pilot]

why would i do that

doesnt that take more bc?

[languid pasture]

no really at most of the time if your aim is sss+

[craggy imp]

Not if you’re lucky

[atomic arch]

cuz gambling is fun :D

[stable pilot]

but it says u only get em between 80-100

[languid pasture]

if you're just aiming for sss then i'd recommend regular banner

[stable pilot]

oh nvm i should read better

[craggy imp]

It’s higher rates but higher pity as well

[stable pilot]

but still tho u can get earlies on the normal banner no?

[craggy imp]

Yea

[stable pilot]

ill just pull on the normal banner then

[craggy imp]

I’m not sure if soft pity exists on gamble banner

[languid pasture]

most likely not in average because how low the drop rates are in normal banners

[stable pilot]

oh

[atomic arch]

it's tripled rates compared to normal banner and if you're getting sss+ you're already whaling anyway so might as well

[craggy imp]

0.5% for normal, 1.5% for fate

[stable pilot]

im not gonna whaleee

[atomic arch]

no sss+ for you then

[craggy imp]

[languid pasture]

if you pull normal banners then you are aiming for the guaranteed, if you pull fate banners then you aim for early drops

[stable pilot]

saving exists😔

[craggy imp]

They have SSS punchy I’m not surprised

[stable pilot]

fair

[atomic arch]

me skipping 5 characters so i can get sss+

[stable pilot]

i dont even skip i just use tickets

[craggy imp]

Way more than 5

[languid pasture]

In conclusion
SSS or lower: Regular Banner
SSS+: Fate Banner

[atomic arch]

tickets in a patch arent enough for a character bro 😭

[stable pilot]

ill just aim for sss🙂‍↕️

[stable pilot]

well i got lucky

[craggy imp]

4S is unreasonable if you don’t spend

[brittle terrace]

Ngl tho, sss+ isnt worth for anyone

[languid pasture]

smart choice, cuz you can literally get 6 more s ranks if you're not going for sss+
unless you're a rich p2w of course

[atomic arch]

if you get 100k allowance from your billionaire dad it might be

[brittle terrace]

Even for spenders value per copy is best sss

[stable pilot]

i mean im trying to get my hyperreal to sss+ but i just use free character selector for that

[craggy imp]

100k gets you like 4S for the next 10 years until eos

[brittle terrace]

For fun yeah, i need a sugar daddy asap

[old garnet]

When do the weekly missions reset?

[craggy imp]

I need a sugar daddy too

[stable pilot]

monday

[craggy imp]

Every week

[atomic arch]

next week

[craggy imp]

Monday 7 am utc

[old garnet]

Thanks

[brittle terrace]

Ss/ss3 for f2p and low soenders, sss + sig r3 +cub for whels

[stable pilot]

is this peak guys

[craggy imp]

SS3 multiple characters is possible if you’ve been playing since release

[languid pasture]

all thanks to rich ppl who pulls sss+ on every char to keep pgr server still running 🙏🙏🙏

[craggy imp]

Sss is possible for low spenders too

[craggy imp]

Empress my goat

Makes the shortest yet most effective rotation guides ever

[brittle terrace]

True but prob also ww helps out

[atomic arch]

i mean if ww was profitable and pgr wasnt, wouldnt they just shut down pgr

[craggy imp]

Pgr is definitely profitable

[brittle terrace]

No ofc, im just saying ww defo helped out expand budget

[craggy imp]

This game is mostly low spender friendly

[atomic arch]

obv, im saying "y game keeps x game afloat" aint a thing

[craggy imp]

It definitely is a thing if it’s the same company

Or it helps expand the budget

[brittle terrace]

I consider becoming a low spender but im also proud f2p, i would be spender but problem is i feel i shoulda started spending earlier so i feel like i missed out ;-;

[atomic arch]

i dont think they would keep pgr afloat if it was causing a loss in revenue

[craggy imp]

I don’t want to be a proud f2p I just want MY WANSHI SSS

[stable pilot]

get itt

[craggy imp]

[stable pilot]

i can do it bro

[craggy imp]

No money for bp

[languid pasture]

pgr'd become even more f2p if ww goes more profitable 🙏

[brittle terrace]

BASED

[stable pilot]

if i could do it in one patch you can also do it

[brittle terrace]

Wanshi is such a cutie patootie, he deserves sss

[craggy imp]

Yea I didn’t say that I’m just saying it expands the budget so pgr can be better

[brittle terrace]

I have like £3000 savings but idk

[craggy imp]

Triple patch only gives enough for 30 shards

[stable pilot]

yeahhh i got him like 3 times from normal banner on like 10 pity so i got really lucky😭

[craggy imp]

Life savings?

[brittle terrace]

Yeah

[craggy imp]

[atomic arch]

invest in bitcoin 🤑

[stable pilot]

i only spend money on skins tbh

[brittle terrace]

Yeah

[sweet sand]

I watched a couple of YouTube videos of people trying to SSS+ units and they used the Fate banner and actually saved more BC

[atomic arch]

you buy coatings and not characters?

[stable pilot]

thats peak

[brittle terrace]

I wish i could spend in skins without getting ingame bonuses

[stable pilot]

i buy coatings for characters i already have yes

[languid pasture]

isnt that the only necessary paying part of pgr?

[atomic arch]

but you never buy characters themselves?

[atomic arch]

depends on the skin

[stable pilot]

i think so too

[brittle terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/vera-geiravor-geiravor-pgr-vera-pgr-vera-geiravor-vera-gif-7055653584799750815

[stable pilot]

nope i do get like bonus event tickets so i use those on event banner but otherwise no

but u basically get the event tickets for free when u spen rc

[craggy imp]

[brittle terrace]

Not like id spend all on pgr💀. But even using £100would get me monthly pass and bp for quite a while

[atomic arch]

you can get that one for bc cant you? just skip a few

[brittle terrace]

Nop

[craggy imp]

Do it, wanshi needs his sss

[brittle terrace]

🥲

Its temtping...

[stable pilot]

but what if i dont have streamer luck

[atomic arch]

download obs

[stable pilot]

whats that

[stable pilot]

dont spend money on characters in gacha games pleaseee😭😭 use the money for something useful

[craggy imp]

Obs studios

It’s only 10 bucks

[atomic arch]

something useful like skins

[craggy imp]

Although 10 bucks over here can buy you breakfast for 10 days

[brittle terrace]

I mean ill prob need some for uni ngl

[stable pilot]

skins arent useful either but at least u can use em guaranteed whenever u want

[stable pilot]

save it for uni

[brittle terrace]

But generally im bad at spending, everyone always encourages me

[cobalt hornet]

Paying your bills is useful

[stable pilot]

me too bro but u gotta control urself for this one

[craggy imp]

I’ve forgotten how to spell without autocorrect

[atomic arch]

me pondering should i buy monthly pass or dinner

[stable pilot]

dinner

[craggy imp]

Monthly pass

[stable pilot]

actually buy ingredients and make dinner youll save money

[brittle terrace]

Ur prob right, i should use it on clothes for when i touch grass and try dating one day💀💀💀

[stable pilot]

yes

[atomic arch]

im kinda overweight so i'll just skip a few meals

[stable pilot]

my popsicle broke in half and fell

[craggy imp]

Dating? What’s that

[stable pilot]

im also kinda overweight but that dont mean h gotta skip

[brittle terrace]

Then i can get my partner to be my sugar parent and buy me all the pgr passes

[stable pilot]

besides u prolly have money left for monthly if u buy ingredients and cook

[craggy imp]

W motivation , were pulling the sparda brothers with this one

[craggy imp]

When pgr eos yea

[atomic arch]

im not that hungry

[stable pilot]

oh im definitely pulling them

[craggy imp]

[stable pilot]

you do you ur probably a grown adult anyway

[craggy imp]

Am I the only minor here

[atomic arch]

i'll skip a meal and find a horse

[stable pilot]

nope me too

[brittle terrace]

Ur almost not though?

[craggy imp]

[craggy imp]

Next year

[brittle terrace]

Im just about not minor😔

[atomic arch]

17 yr 11 monts 29 days old

[languid pasture]

im minor

[stable pilot]

is everyone 17

[craggy imp]

I’m so hungry I could eat a hor-. Why the long face

[atomic arch]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-reaction-reaction-elite-dangerous-borann-boys-gif-25049405

[brittle terrace]

Im 18 but lookslike everyone else is

[craggy imp]

That’s pretty much major territory

[stable pilot]

im turning 18 in September so i cant say twinning😔

[brittle terrace]

😔

[craggy imp]

Is it the 11th

[stable pilot]

10th

[craggy imp]

[stable pilot]

donu think dmc will be there then

cuz ik its coming next month

[craggy imp]

DMc is going until mid September most likely

[stable pilot]

yay

[craggy imp]

If it’s the usual 6week sched

[atomic arch]

ask for 600 rc as a birthday gift

[stable pilot]

im spending all my birthday money

[stable pilot]

should i ask kuro

or lee

[craggy imp]

No thdy just give you a birthday cake

[languid pasture]

ask boss qu lol

[tropic remnant]

is jetavie good?

[stable pilot]

but im very special

[sweet sand]

from what I've seen, I don't think so. I believe you'll save more on the Fate banner. but like the other person said - it's only worth it if you're aiming for SSS+, otherwise, the regular banner might be the better choice

[craggy imp]

No, she works as a sub dps for lilick tho

[stable pilot]

alr ty

[tropic remnant]

what does a sub dps do

[stable pilot]

who is jetavie

[languid pasture]

that lil a rank devil

[craggy imp]

Do secondary dmg to the main dps

[atomic arch]

https://tenor.com/view/pgr-jetavie-wink-punishing-gray-raven-gif-12047241739936685671

[stable pilot]

oh the new one

she lowk ugly😭

[craggy imp]

She thinks coffee is for the weak

[craggy imp]

THANK YOU OMG

Lowk not as pretty

[stable pilot]

peak

[languid pasture]

lowk mesugaki starter 🤯

[atomic arch]

you better take that back...

[stable pilot]

no its not the end of the world

[craggy imp]

[stable pilot]

is anyone also just building random chars

[daring tangle]

[atomic arch]

im out of characters to build tbh

[craggy imp]

I have 96 sim points

[stable pilot]

bro built everyone

[daring tangle]

Building Hypergoat rn

[arctic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/cocking-pistol-john-wick-keanu-reeves-john-wick-chapter-4-jw4-gif-2438417231913206222

[craggy imp]

I spent loke 80k the past 2 days making ppc sets

[languid pasture]

just spent 40k bc and realizing i had no resources to build none of them 🥀

[stable pilot]

😭

[atomic arch]

no i just dont have that many characters 💔

[stable pilot]

it feels like i have infinite resources lmao

[atomic arch]

all my teams are coping

[stable pilot]

fair

[stable pilot]

no

[daring tangle]

I built Camu for zaza dark just to realize he is only dark in ult

[craggy imp]

My phys team is coping until I get hanying to ss

[arctic wasp]

💔

[languid pasture]

why'd bro even build a uniframe 🥀

[daring tangle]

For fun

[craggy imp]

For siege trust

[stable pilot]

i built kamui and cera yesterday cuz i had too much resources

VERA

[craggy imp]

You can never have too much wheb you play meta

[warm kindle]

Ya all I have a question: my fire team lacks a DPS (I have no S attackers, especially no Pyroath) but I have Vera and Watanabe. What should I do to fill out the last spot while Dante's still not out yet?

[stable pilot]

but its the same for every character

[violet leaf]

Man

[craggy imp]

Just use another amp. Vera works as a fire dps. Dante is also not a fire dps

[atomic arch]

bro where tf do you need 8k average bp

[vapid tree]

norman

[violet leaf]

Is bro fr

[craggy imp]

For perfect tactics in nrp

You don’t need it tho

[warm kindle]

He ain't fire element? I mean, I know that he's used in meta ignition, but doesn't he have base fire element?

[stable pilot]

wait guys i need ur opinions on something

[violet leaf]

I dont, but it just bruh'd me so bad

[stable pilot]

Should i buy this

[craggy imp]

His fire dmg is better than hyperlee but that’s not a very high bar to set. Vera solo works better than he does since hes 10% fire and 90% ignition

[atomic arch]

yeah but as a fire dps he's lackluster compared to pyroath

[craggy imp]

Just give another reso to one of your characters

[warm kindle]

Alright. So another amp? Like, any element?

[craggy imp]

Yep, or Sophia if you can’t

[warm kindle]

The issue is I don't have Pyroath

[warm kindle]

Alr

Thank ya

[atomic arch]

solo vera still better

[violet leaf]

All of them got reso, im just uhh outta hypertune currencies atm

[craggy imp]

R2

[violet leaf]

O

[craggy imp]

Genhelp died down, time to sleep

[violet leaf]

Ah, solved it

[languid pasture]

If he's on your fe〇〇h then yes, as long as you don't see another better skin and regret
If you care about the stats then no, he's retired

[stray patrol]

How the heck cursed waves work?

[old garnet]

7.9k ur a demon

[snow pecan]

shoul i choose qu here?

[livid tinsel]

what does SSS wanshi do?

[atomic arch]

damage

[livid tinsel]

SSS wanshi is not needed for glaciation?

[hollow egret]

no

but more damage tho

[craggy imp]

Dmg, more shred and -3s on cd

Not needed but heavily buffs glacio

And ice too

[quick bronze]

im thinking of sss3 wanshi

[craggy imp]

Do it frick your sss liv

[vast rain]

Y'all what resonance should I use on no.21...? (The website doesn't work for me for some reason)

[craggy imp]

No resonances

Oh wait probably meant memo

Class passive

[vast rain]

Aight thanks alot

[quick bronze]

they need to add new unit to shards in bp

[vast rain]

I am getting an Error 1014 on the gray raven website lol.

[craggy imp]

Yea gray ravens is down atm

[vast rain]

I see. Thanks alot man

[vast rain]

You mean core passive?

[craggy imp]

Class

[vernal scarab]

Can someone help, I'm new to PGR and im trying to put some codes in, but they're not working for some reason.

[vast rain]

Oh the class skill... Thanks alot

[craggy imp]

Expired

[vernal scarab]

fr? I thought it would say expired on the screen or something, but it kept sayin invalid, like i put it in wrong. Ok then, thx

[languid pasture]

New to PGR?
Build these characters 👍

[vernal scarab]

ummmm, ok??????

[languid pasture]

||jk do not||

[craggy imp]

Bricked

[vernal scarab]

lmao

[vast rain]

Less bricked than my account after the collab

[vernal scarab]

collab?

[vast rain]

Yea the dmc collab. It's on the next patch

[vernal scarab]

OMG FR!!!!!!!!!!!?😱

[languid pasture]

Crossovers

[craggy imp]

Can’t wait to skip

[languid pasture]

Skip it, get em on alt or be bricked

[vernal scarab]

Ik, i was asking what collab are they doing? lol

[vernal scarab]

I mean im new to the game, so is it really bricked? I just started an hour ago

[languid pasture]

Collab characters won't stand high long in the versions, they retire way faster than the local characters

[craggy imp]

Also just bad value tbh

Collab there to attract dmc fans and make f2ps think they’re forced to pull

[vernal scarab]

I mean I understand that, im just here to enjoy the game and play something new

Thats just how I am, and plus I feel like collabs in games like these don't come around as often IMO

[languid pasture]

If you wanna enjoy then skip it, or you're just gonna sit in the prison until you get more black cards to pull strong characters

Unless by that, you mean you enjoy the game as a fe〇〇h main

[craggy imp]

[vernal scarab]

whose Feooh or whatever that name is? lol

[languid pasture]

Means you pull characters by how much you like them instead of how strong they are

Not sure if I can say that word here

[vernal scarab]

I mean whats wrong with that? I don't see the problem

lol

[languid pasture]

There is no problem with that

It's just that your game experiences on weekly challenges will feel like sitting in a prison

Later on

[cursive frigate]

Is Vera usable whitout her sig?
I dont have her sig but she still deals more damage than liv at SS+Sig+Harmony

[languid pasture]

Vera Geiravor?

[livid tinsel]

liv never deals dmg lmao

[craggy imp]

She doesn’t need it for proper rotations, however if you get her sig she becomes the main dps of the fire team

[cursive frigate]

Yes
which one else?

[cursive frigate]

Liv was main dps until nanamech came

[languid pasture]

There are 3 Vera's including Geiravor

[vernal scarab]

@languid pasture is it easy to get pulls on PGR?

[livid tinsel]

😱

[cursive frigate]

Understandable
After loosing my weapon 50/50 i tought about skipping veras sig

[craggy imp]

Yeah but they said liv so irrelevant

[languid pasture]

You just randomly receive another 10 pulls on random reasons 🤷

[craggy imp]

NOTHING HAPPENED ON JUNE 30TH 2025

[vernal scarab]

um I don't think that answers my question lol. I mean like in general when it comes to grinding events, etc?

[craggy imp]

You don’t really pull characters in this game like traditional Gacha

Every patch will give enough to guarantee the character on banner

Usually the patch after is a savings patch so you can guarantee their sig

[languid pasture]

It's easy, Gen3 Frames like Geiravor beats most Gen2 Frames easily

So yes

Usable, but her Sig doubles her signature dmg

[languid pasture]

They usually give enough for a regular S-banner. Especially the combined patches recently to catch up with the CN server. Either doubled rewards or tripled, but I'm pretty sure this will possibly be the last second combined patch

[vast rain]

That's why I love this game over genshin...

[languid pasture]

Yet most resources come from weeklies

[vernal scarab]

im guessing thats a yes? lol

[languid pasture]

I'm pretty sure you can still get another 10k black cards in the rest of this version

[languid pasture]

Plus newbies should be able to get around 20k black cards

With several chapters and beginner missions

[vast rain]

The earlier story missions give more bc right?

[lime oriole]

yea

[languid pasture]

Yes because they are all battles

[lime oriole]

and hidden gives 50 instead of 30

[craggy imp]

But uses more serum

Why new chp only give 180

[languid pasture]

Serum aint problems in those combined patches haha

[craggy imp]

It’s better to use serum on story during dmc patch so I’m holding off on doing story

[slim cloak]

does new bianca need sig

[craggy imp]

Probably

Heard her orb regen is crazy tho

[languid pasture]

Carry Frames always need their sig lol

[craggy imp]

Every character needs sig

Stat stick or not

[hollow moat]

Why does jetavie says she doesn't need hers

[languid pasture]

For stats, yes. For cycles, not all

[craggy imp]

Jeta A rank

[craggy imp]

Playing glacio without wanshi sig was so bad

246w Score

[hollow moat]

Me in my alt

[craggy imp]

Literally doing half the dmg I’m doing now

[languid pasture]

Im already giving up my ice team lmao

[hollow moat]

My ice team has all their sigs

[craggy imp]

I’ll give up on it when it’s not in rotation anymore

[languid pasture]

Maybe if you'd put these resources on fire team

[hollow moat]

Same for the fire team

[languid pasture]

Holy cow child you're invincible

[craggy imp]

I’m not gonna give Vera her sig just yet, I don’t have enough tuners

[hollow moat]

I got Vera's sig on 17 pulls and epitaph on 11 pulls

So I had to put it on them

[languid pasture]

I need Sig for epitaph to elbow more dmg 🥀

[craggy imp]

Epitaph sig not worth, just use nanaknight

[hollow moat]

I got a double red on Startrail's sig I got startrail and Wanshi's sig

[languid pasture]

I'm irritated to his elbowing

[hollow moat]

Do I need to harmo the sig for Kaleido and shukra

I mean my Kaleido is support build

[tranquil ledge]

Well uhhh I don't have a j*b anymore so I cannot turn myself into a whale 💔

[plush oak]

Anyone know when is the next base banner s rank selector

[lime oriole]

next year maybe

[fringe rock]

should i hypertune her? only 5* weapon for now

[ivory ermine]

Sure

If you only have a limited amount of Hypertune materials, you can choose to only hypertune the memory slot 04 05 and 06

[lime oriole]

jobless!!!

[ivory ermine]

The first 3 memories wouldn't be needed just yet

[lime oriole]

unemployed!!!!

[somber ingot]

Is there a way to skip intro outro animations? I started doing stronghold and it's driving me insane

[ivory ermine]

No

[lime oriole]

no

a 3s animation is driving him crazy 😔

[hollow moat]

It's only an animation after that it's done

[somber ingot]

bro, 3s animation times 200 fights is a lottta seconds

[quick bronze]

yea

[lime oriole]

[hollow moat]

Honestly I have no problem with the animation it's just 3secs after that your going to fight

[lime oriole]

just enjoy it

[somber ingot]

I enjoyed it the first 50 times, I guess it's time to take a break

[hollow moat]

It's only one time everytime you fight what's there to fuss about

[pastel gorge]

why cant i set collab images as loading screens?

[atomic arch]

please censor the j word

[atomic arch]

get family guy funny moments on your second monitor if you're that impatient

[somber ingot]

I would if I had a second monitor

[atomic arch]

alt tab

[ember panther]

chat why does ice suck so bad 🥀

[lime oriole]

its ice

[ember panther]

I wasted so many resources building it just for my nihil to score higher IN ICE CONTENT

at least lucid is fun to play ig

[fringe rock]

how long will the selector last?

[bitter night]

it doesn't expire

it's just a one time thing on standard banner

[dawn sorrel]

hello can someone ping tier list chat?

[bitter night]

but if you don't use it by the time they reset it next cn anniversary patch you lose it

[sinful rivet]

how tf did I fail Selena sig 80/20 twice
do i try again or start saving bc

[vapid tree]

if you fail the first one you cant fail the 2nd one

[dawn sorrel]

pls✌️🥀

[sinful rivet]

...am i stupid

i just realized it is not set to selena's rn

[hollow moat]

Why

That's why

[sinful rivet]

frick i just pulled for different one 2nd time

[grizzled patrol]

is it worth to pull for ishamel in arrival construct?

[sinful rivet]

ok what do i do
start saving for dmc or try to get signature again

[hollow moat]

No it isn't because there's a 30% that'll go offrate

[hollow moat]

How many bc do you have ?

[grizzled patrol]

so what's the got-to way to get constructs that are not available outside of arrival construct like ishmael?

[sinful rivet]

uhhh
like
less than 100

[hollow moat]

Then I'll probably save

[hollow moat]

The 100% rate up

[grizzled patrol]

do they rerun older chars in the 100% banner?

[sinful rivet]

how much bc should i get just to get vergil and dante once
and realistically how much can i save by the time dmc ends

[hollow moat]

Next banner there are 2 100% which are Selena and Alisa

[hollow moat]

No cub and sig wep or with cub and sig wep

[sinful rivet]

uh
what do you think i can get if i start saving now

[hollow moat]

Well since Dante is free you can probably get just the ss it's 10,500

For Vergil

If for SS and SS3 Dante it's 21k but for full set it's 46k

That's the basic investment

[dawn sorrel]

whats the diff between this 2

only pity?

[hollow moat]

Well at the themed one you get it at 60 pulls at fate there's a chance you might get lucky but that's slim and plus fate is only for whales don't pull on fate

[faint locust]

when is next cn anniversary?

[sinful rivet]

alr thanks
weekly missions for next 3 weeks is ~3k bc, right? and then daily is 90. so that is like, 11k bc ish
how do i get more?

[grizzled patrol]

never ever use fate

[dawn sorrel]

fate is golden?

[sinful rivet]

yes

[dawn sorrel]

aigh

[hollow moat]

I guess stronghold and some events that reward bc

[dawn sorrel]

so fate like guranteed that its gonna be that char on common its not am i right?

[atomic arch]

how do i do the selena boss battle in under 180s?

[calm radish]

the banners have it the name you know

[faint locust]

second one is bait, it has marginally higher per pull chance in exchange for far higher pitty

[sinful rivet]

ok, thank you!
im not gonna make it lol

[atomic arch]

fate is only if you're whaling and want sss+

[wanton osprey]

Why does it say invalid?

[sinful rivet]

resonance on a different character

[atomic arch]

cuz that reso is tied to nanami so if you select it outside of nanami it wont be active

[dawn sorrel]

✌️thx

[sinful rivet]

i messed up on day 2 or 3 and did that

[wanton osprey]

so I can't use it then?

[atomic arch]

nope

[sinful rivet]

you'd just have to only use the memory on nanami or resonate again

[wanton osprey]

ah alr thanks

[dawn sorrel]

what should i pull for a start(i like camellya alter ego girl)

so i should pull for dark chars?

[hollow moat]

Are you new or a returnee

[dawn sorrel]

new

(played couple of time but everytime make new acc)

[atomic arch]

how do i do the moon eater boss on the event under 180s?

[hollow moat]

The one in Selena's trial the last one

[lime oriole]

what event

[hollow moat]

The trial for each character

[lime oriole]

[dawn sorrel]

u me?

[lime oriole]

just use your best team/trials

[atomic arch]

songstress' lone dance

[hollow moat]

Well that's the thing Selena's the only trial

[lime oriole]

i just go with dark in every event where i have to fight

[atomic arch]

the boss is weak to glaciation though (supposedly)

but even then my glacio team isnt doing enough damage to finish it under 180s

[lime oriole]

either invest/rotation issue

[lime oriole]

whats ur glacio invest

[ivory ermine]

You're likely to play it wrong

[atomic arch]

ss selena pretty much

[lime oriole]

wanshi and alya?

[atomic arch]

yeah but theyre not ss yet

alisa has her leap too, obv

[grizzled patrol]

grayravens is down?

[safe agate]

Guys is ss3 Selena possible without pulling another dupe ?

[grizzled patrol]

no

[hollow moat]

Yeah no

[safe agate]

Is it worth to pull that instead of Vera ?

[grizzled patrol]

you get 30 shards from skulls, that's it

[lime oriole]

no

[grizzled patrol]

and you need 57 shards for SS3

[lime oriole]

new chara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pulling dupes

[cursive slate]

30 is free from pc u need 27

[grizzled patrol]

30 from cage get you to SS and then another 27 for ss3

[cursive slate]

yes

[safe agate]

Do we know when dark flow team fully completes ?

[faint locust]

anyone know why grayravens.com is down?

[safe agate]

Does glaciation crit ?

[ivory ermine]

No

[charred lotus]

what do i do with my overflow shards?

[sinful rivet]

i hated this one so much but still finished on my day 3 of playing game
you gotta read the descriptions of the modifers
some random attacks gonna be doing 1200% more dmg after certain attacks or parries or smth
and also atk is 100% higher after parry?
it was annoying but i could solo it with selena and any tank for QTE (I used A rank wanshi)
there is probably a better way but it is possible this way (it still took me like 30 minutes to do it after i actually read the modifers)

wait hold on no the 1200% was something else

[safe agate]

it counts as ice dmg correct ?

[sinful rivet]

but the 100% attack up is after a parry using basic attack, i just checked
so you gotta signature right after a parry

[ivory ermine]

No that's not how it works

Ice damage and Glaciation damage is still 2 different damage

[sinful rivet]

i basically just solo with selena by spamming her dmg cycle and keeping constant 100% atk up with parries

[sinful rivet]

so what exactly does the glaciation bar do
i see it build up when using selena but it only rly says "congelation" at 10 stacks and then starts doing more dmg
i don't rly know how glaciation works its too confusing

[atomic arch]

a rank wanshi isnt a tank

[sinful rivet]

oh my bad
i thnk i used s rank wanshi then

[atomic arch]

yeah i have him but his shred isnt doing much

[sinful rivet]

but any tank rly, just for the qte and extra dmg debuff on boss

[atomic arch]

the guy doesnt attack much so i didnt even think about parrying

[safe agate]

Oh ok

[atomic arch]

get other shards

[sinful rivet]

solo with selena, trust

[marble tinsel]

doss this warzone guide have a video version or any vid that comes close?

https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1221666582326149171

[atomic arch]

i am she's still bad 😭

[sinful rivet]

i have 118 extra jetavie shards 💀

[charred lotus]

how do i get rid of it or cant i convert it to a different shard?

[sinful rivet]

idk man
signature was taking out like 12 bars of boss hp each time

6 if i didn't have the 100% atk buff

so i had to do ~7 signatures, once every 22-25 seconds ish
and just spammed restart button if i missed or did a sig without atk buff
took a while but you get the hang of it

[atomic arch]

shop

[charred lotus]

can u pls be more specific?

[atomic arch]

idr

probably exchange shop

[sinful rivet]

2 sets of 3-pings
and also use the blue orb (not too often cuz i don't think it time freezes)
then signautre
parry before signature again
spam more 3 pings and signautes
make sure to parry with basic attack every 6-8 seconds
and make sure to hold down the signature button to use the glaciation (i still don't know how it works but it seems to only do glacation dmg for a very short time after 10 stacks when it turns into colgelation or smth... i kinda just retried many times until something worked)

[sinful rivet]

shard shop

[charred lotus]

thanks

[grizzled patrol]

do we already know who's gonna be next after bianca crepuscule?

[sinful rivet]

can buy almost any A rank shard for 15 a-class inver materials
or a singular 6 star memory shard for 2 materials

[zinc rock]

why rosetta in norman plan does more damage than gabriel and that other boss both...

[atomic arch]

cuz gabriel is a bum

[zinc rock]

i have only trial chars left and she just slices them with two hits after we get to her 20 or lower bars)

[safe agate]

Who to SS next , shukra , epitaph or Lucia pyroath

[wide roost]

hii does anyone have a guide on plasma team?

[ionic wadi]

lucia

[atomic arch]

theres trial characters in norman?

[sinful rivet]

also is grayravens,com down right now

[atomic arch]

has been for a few days now

[sinful rivet]

oh

rly?
i had a couple tabs open on it ~32 hours ago

[atomic arch]

if it was open before it wont crash just dont reload it

[sinful rivet]

right now anything i had open from a few days ago is working but if i try to navigate to a different page it stops working
reloading is fine it seems and i can navigate back to the page

hm interesting
any idea when it'll be back up

[atomic arch]

let me go grab my crystal orb rq

mhm

[sinful rivet]

...

[atomic arch]

says here it'll back up...

soon

[hollow egret]

what cub is better/more value, Vera or Pianissimo one?

[dusky fiber]

Pianissimo

[hollow egret]

why?

[dusky fiber]

A lot of people asked this question and this was the answer
I didnt ask why tbh lol

Didnt want to leave you hanging

[hollow egret]

ok, mb someone else knew

[tropic bough]

Memo for Wata and Geiravor?

I just got both of em, gonna replace lee

[narrow swift]

Help

[deft otter]

just do /build in #📨・bot-info

if you are looking for memories

[narrow swift]

Thx

[tropic bough]

which build should I get tho? ( Epitaph )
Main tank build require Sig + h ( which I dont have )

that leaves me with Alt DPS and Alt Tank
( + which slot should I put the 2 set on )

or should I just get Alt tank and use Vera as my Alt DPS?

[ivory ermine]

Use the Alternative Tank set to boost Geiravor damage

[tropic bough]

alr, 2 set where?

up or lower slot?

[ivory ermine]

Upper slot

[tropic bough]

so Vera as Alt DPS right? the 2 set placement also the same?

Im still using Pyro as my main

[thin mantle]

could use 4dv 2 ein 2 gloria on epitath

in ppc

[tropic bough]

I dont have the sig.

and maybe not getting it anytime soon

[thin mantle]

ah

[marble tinsel]

does unlocking these nodes matter? if so, for what?

[thin mantle]

understandable

[charred lotus]

does vera garnet have an exclusive cub?

[viral minnow]

nope

dont think so

[charred lotus]

more missions to do when u unlock the whole base 1

[rich jewel]

Question. Can you have more than one monthly pass active at a time? I specifically mean the passes that give you BC as login rewards

[marble tinsel]

which orb infinita for geiravor, CW and startrail?

[worldly briar]

Yes, not the monthly pass A, the other black card monthly supply thing, you can get two at the same time

[rich jewel]

@worldly briar I initially bought the monthly pass C to try and stock up on BC a couple of a week and a half ago. But I saw a bundle in the store that rewards 2,250 BC in one week of logins. I bought it, but now I'm worried that it overwrote and disabled the one I had previously.

[vapid tree]

nah you will get both

[worldly briar]

Idk the 2,250 one, but I dont think it did. Some passes are delivered by mail

[lone quarry]

Do you hold dodge with wanshi

[marble tinsel]

another question how long does QTEs last after you ping 3 orbs? do they even disappear?

[rich jewel]

Oh wait I think I'm good. I was wrong, it wasn't the monthly pass A or C. Rather the first one I got was the "Black card monthly pass supply" in the limited supply. It still is showing as 1 of 2 so I think I'm okay.

[worldly briar]

Yes that one, you can stack that too

[pearl laurel]

they do get inactive after some time if you don't use em
it's 5 seconds I think or something like that
well, you can always check it ingame

[fringe rock]

guys,do i simp for selena or get vergil? XD https://huaxu.app/eu/players/29746945/characters

[rich jewel]

@worldly briar thank you for relieving my nerves! About gave myself a heart attack thinking I wasted money!

[worldly briar]

I wasted tons across so many games, even if u did you’ll get used to it

[boreal viper]

which dorm chara are said to be paired with her ?

[hollow egret]

wanshi and kaleido

[boreal viper]

there is no wanshi

[pearl laurel]

literally the 1st char there

[hollow egret]

lucid dreamear is wanshi

[boreal viper]

oh k thanks

[marble tinsel]

which infinita orb for her and nanami?

[hollow egret]

crimson weave do nothing in nanami team, unless you SSS her

[pearl laurel]

doesn't matter for her
Nana can take blue or red, whichever works for your team positions

[marble tinsel]

nanami is still S base for now and i'm just building her for modes that needs 4 teams + she's cute

[hollow egret]

still nanami just solo playing and cw just qte bot

but if you want then sure play cw

np

[marble tinsel]

qte bot CW? whats the memories and resonance for that?

[fresh burrow]

might as well just use another amp tbh

[marble tinsel]

no 21 and vera are my only amps

[ivory ermine]

In a real case scenario, Yoh wouldn't even use Crimson Weave in the team if she's not SSS rank

Using a second support is always going to perform better

[ivory ermine]

Where's your Daemonissa

[fringe rock]

can selena be kept on-field permanently or she needs to rotate ?

[ivory ermine]

She's entirely free

[marble tinsel]

got very unlucky in the gacha and have to wait 14 more days for her

[fresh burrow]

just use vera gei

[ivory ermine]

I guess you can indefinitely play her on the field as much as you want.

Rotation team is still going to be the optimal way to play any character or team in the game

[hollow egret]

she dont do anything so you can use any other amplifier. Memos: 4 davinci + 2 einsteina

[ivory ermine]

Well that's unfortunate

I mean technically I'm also waiting for mine for 7 days more

[marble tinsel]

my geiravor's on main dps build

[sweet gyro]

Guys, what's missing? I don't understand.

[fresh burrow]

buy 4 dv and 2 guin. no need to upgrade

[pearl laurel]

you still don't have lilick? I thought you older player

[forest barn]

Memory enhancers

[ivory ermine]

Use a different memory set and Just leave it as it is

You don't have to upgrade to resonate anything for this Solo Dps Startrail team

[ivory ermine]

I was

But I recently came back

So it still takes some time to get her

[pearl laurel]

[ivory ermine]

Especially after I got both of her weapon and the coin first before herself

How unlucky I can get really

[marble tinsel]

oh oki. but i can still build CW for modes that need 3 or 4 teams right?

[ivory ermine]

Sure

If you have the resources for it that is

[sweet gyro]

There is no such thing Memory enhancers here

[fresh burrow]

btw, off topic a bit. is your first name mayhaps be "Da"?

[marble tinsel]

no i dont own hoyoverse

[fresh burrow]

[south acorn]

You can buy memory enhancers from simulated battlefield shop and scroll right to see more of available items to buy.

[sweet gyro]

But what is missing here?

[marble tinsel]

is it worth levelling this guy up to 4.7k bp? for stronghold where i can use lightning team without nanami since nanami can solo an entire another round on her own

[south acorn]

Press the bar that has cost preview and select material

[forest barn]

Those are mats u need for overclocking memories, lvling memories use memory enhancers

[fresh burrow]

nah, just solo with your gen 2/3 units

[forest barn]

They look like this

[marble tinsel]

thanks

[placid tiger]

what infinita orb does epitaph want?

[pearl laurel]

doesn't matter, he can only get blue at start

ohh wait, he can get yellow too

choose blue or yellow based on your team positions

[exotic dagger]

[wet veldt]

What happened with Gray ravens? I cant access it

[exotic dagger]

eos

[rich jewel]

Hey I'm at only chapter 6 of the main story, if I do the "Dream till the timeless end" will I receive spoilers to the main story?

[oak oriole]

yes

[lunar rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/gmail-burning-chair-dog-fat-gif-14603985714283483667

[proven hamlet]

Gray Ravens got a new site: https://pgr.miraheze.org/wiki/GRAY_RAVENS

[worldly briar]

I never do the newest chapters, I go through the story patch by patch https://pgr.miraheze.org/wiki/Patches

[rich jewel]

@worldly briar oh it's actually a continuation of the main story? Why does it say available for __ days?

[marble tinsel]

for some reason i chose pyroath over nanami for my standard banner in my other acc, how will this affect the account's progression?

[worldly briar]

related to the current patch

[proven hamlet]

You'll struggle to do:

• lightning content
• ignition content
• even plasma beam content which is pyroath's crown because no proper tank unless daren is leaped
• any elemental zaza teams with Luna

[marble tinsel]

bricked!!

i guess only thunderbolt research and standard banner reset can fix that account now?

if so, i'll keep doing the PPC and Warzone for preparation

[proven hamlet]

There'll be anniversary banner next patch

You can pull everyone up to Pianissimo

Its in the same patch of DMC so if you also wants the twin sons of Sparda, 💳

[marble tinsel]

wait anniv banner is same as dmc patch? i thought dmc patch is standalone

[proven hamlet]

It is a standalone patch, but'll also feature anniversary banner

[marble tinsel]

oki thanks

[atomic arch]

who should i bring as cope teams in this weeks uppc? i still want to get some of the rewards at least

[proven hamlet]

Whats your roster?

[atomic arch]

rn it's this but i havent spent my selector yet

[proven hamlet]

Fu Shen - Selena, Alisa, Rigor (Selena can solo this boss pretty easily)

[ivory ermine]

It's not really that bad to be honest

Just a slight exaggeration

[proven hamlet]

Can you get Wanshi to SS before the end of this week?

[marble tinsel]

can thunderbolt research fix it

[ivory ermine]

You still can use your Crimson Weave for some of the lightning content decently

[atomic arch]

maybe

[ivory ermine]

I mean if you can afford it then sure

[mint zealot]

Do collab character have their own banners?

[marble tinsel]

what if f2p

[atomic arch]

me buying most of it cuz i didnt realise i wasnt supposed to

[ivory ermine]

It's permanently available

[atomic arch]

yea

[ivory ermine]

It's just the matter of when you will finish it

[proven hamlet]

If so, then for Emperor you can solo Wanshi with Kaleido and the other Wanshi

Veronica is really DPS Lilith sharing field time with Nanami

Its cope without Pyroath but its what it is

[mint zealot]

Can CW still clear lightning content

[proven hamlet]

Early game yeah, end game only if SSS

[atomic arch]

i thought about getting shukra from the selector would that be a good idea?

actually hold on let me do the math on how much i got left on outlier

[proven hamlet]

Its a good idea, but its an even better idea to be able to afford her 6* sig

[mint zealot]

What is considered end game? Im still just lvl 79 is that early or mid

[atomic arch]

i got 6k bc 🤔

[atomic arch]

most endgame content is unlocked at 80-90

[mint zealot]

I see

[atomic arch]

stuff like legend wz and ultimate ppc

[proven hamlet]

Hero wz, legend is whale zone

[atomic arch]

actually no hold on i dont remember if wz is locked behind level

[proven hamlet]

It is, but past 80 you are put in the same bracket as veterans

[mint zealot]

Damn

[proven hamlet]

So don't be discouraged if you take some time to reach hero warzone (its the sweet spot for f2p investment)

[atomic arch]

80-120 is such a huge range tbh

[mint zealot]

Ill do what I can with just SS CW ig

[atomic arch]

you think its possible to clear latter outlier stages with my roster?

[proven hamlet]

Yeah, outlier can be cleard at any time and any attempts

[atomic arch]

this week i mean

[proven hamlet]

Reaching 580k is also easy on early ppc bosses

[proven hamlet]

Any time, it doesn't reset

[atomic arch]

ik but i need it this week for shukra's ss i mean

[proven hamlet]

Ohh, even if you can't score 580k, I think with the skulls from all of them you can SS her

You get enough skulls for 2 SS with all the outlier bosses I think

[atomic arch]

bruh i already got 2 ss from them am i gigacooked

[proven hamlet]

Depends, how much of its already done?

[mint zealot]

What does station do

[proven hamlet]

Mindscape pact?

[mint zealot]

The awaken thing

[proven hamlet]

Awakening tundra?

[mint zealot]

Infinitas

This thing

Bottom right

[proven hamlet]

Oh, you can station it in one of the zones in sequence pact

Its an account dmg bonus buff to all hypertuned memories

[mint zealot]

Ohhh

Like global buff sort of?

[proven hamlet]

Yep

[mint zealot]

I see

[atomic arch]

nevermind i did the math for the outliers and i still got at least 400+ left

is shukra ss no sig better than wanshi ss no sig tho

[proven hamlet]

So 1 SS

[atomic arch]

assuming i lose the 80/20

[proven hamlet]

Nay, Wanshi is better in this case

[atomic arch]

damn

should i pull first then lol

[proven hamlet]

How many vouchers do you have?

[atomic arch]

1912

[proven hamlet]

Time to grind

[atomic arch]

nooooo 😭

icl i still dont know how to play tundra but i shall do it anyway

[mint zealot]

Are A ranks worth building

[proven hamlet]

Nop

[mint zealot]

I see

[proven hamlet]

Unless if you simp for them

Like my 7200 bp Bridget

[mint zealot]

Can they clear some content tho

Or do u need to invest a ton

[proven hamlet]

Mostly its guild simulated siege

[mint zealot]

Oh

[proven hamlet]

But then you also get trial versions of them

[shell matrix]

For the Pact Zone, does the placement of characters also have a specific impact?

[proven hamlet]

So... no, its not really wise to invest on them

[mint zealot]

I see

[proven hamlet]

Yes, each station buffs a specific skill

[atomic arch]

wasnt there a guide on roguelikes?

sorry didnt mean to ping

[dreamy socket]

do we have an exact date for pgr x dmc global

[proven hamlet]

Yeah, its on the pins

[atomic arch]

sankyu

[mint zealot]

Like 19 days from now

[dreamy socket]

otay

[wind tulip]

What’s the best way to farm the red and orange hyper tune crystal things?

[atomic arch]

august 6

[dreamy socket]

cool\

[proven hamlet]

Events, dorm and guild

[mint zealot]

Has a collab been reran

Kinda sad I missed out on BRS collab

[proven hamlet]

NieR collab reran once but I've heard Kuro regretted it

[dreamy socket]

collab characters never come back

[mint zealot]

Why

[proven hamlet]

One reason is that the collab chars were too op

So since they've been doing them kinda bad, BRS was an A-rank, and the DMC brothers are niche

[mint zealot]

LMFAO

[tribal igloo]

Who’s cub should I get first, pianissimo, geiravor, star trail or pyroath

[worldly briar]

bc of how easy it is to start an alt I'm thinking of starting an F2p account on NA

[worldly briar]

startrail

[icy zephyr]

startrail cub is insanely good

[tribal igloo]

ok ty

[atomic arch]

wait were they still meta when they reran?

[proven hamlet]

No idea

[ivory ermine]

It's too strong, back in the days using the Nier collaboration unit is better than using any other correct element team

[icy zephyr]

yes they were still the meta phys team

[atomic arch]

thats crazy but it kinda makes sense

[ivory ermine]

It literally just "just Nier it"

[mint zealot]

What made em OP

Are they still useable

[ivory ermine]

A functional Tank

[ivory ermine]

Obviously no

[proven hamlet]

Nay, they've been long powercrept

[worldly briar]

I want basic nier even just displays for collection

[icy zephyr]

not even remotely lol in terms of performance in wz or ppc

[ivory ermine]

What is it, 2022 content?

It was years ago

[mint zealot]

How long has it been

[icy zephyr]

yup

[mint zealot]

Oh no wonder

[tribal igloo]

Ok I just got startrail’s cub, which one next

[ivory ermine]

Pianissimo Cub is good

Especially because it has 100% drop rate on pity

[tribal igloo]

ok

[icy zephyr]

Wanshi gets a huge boost from his cub too

[undone pewter]

who should i get from this pack?
i have solacetune on the 40/60 base banner check rn

[proven hamlet]

Qukra if you can also get her 6* sig, or Watanabe

[undone pewter]

is qu unusable without her sig?

[ivory ermine]

No

It helps with extending her rotation, but she's still functional with a 5 star weapon

[worldly briar]

Ice kinda sucks without them having to do 2 rots bc kaleido is perma QTE

[ivory ermine]

Everyone is fine when they have to Solo with Daemonissa or swap to off element character in a Dark Warzone

[icy zephyr]

it feels awful

[ivory ermine]

But when the ice team has a 3 seconds of Kaleido time, they lost they crap

[icy zephyr]

she's as close to "needing" her sig as u can get

with DLT

[celest condor]

she's usable without, but it's still better to get it whenever you can, it smoothes out her rotation

[ivory ermine]

It's just such a weird standard

[arctic wasp]

Like Mahoraga without adaptation
Qu without sig
It works but not that much

[worldly briar]

I think everyone is meant to be 'enjoyed' as the game intended with at least SSR1

[icy zephyr]

no like a bunch of characters are perfectly fine without their sig cuz their rotation is not locked behind it

[arctic wasp]

I never knew most dps needed SS to be functional till a year ago

[ivory ermine]

Enjoying the game is not caring about any standard and enjoy what you have

[icy zephyr]

like Geiravor, Nanami, Wanshi...

[ivory ermine]

It's just such a Meta slave mindset

[icy zephyr]

obv they're way better and do way more dmg with the sig + resos but their rotations don't change

[worldly briar]

'as the game intended' is most likely meta, if it's not, there'll be no meta

[icy zephyr]

Qu lowkey feels like a gen 1 without her sig lmao

[atomic arch]

daemonissa gets like 4 rots at ss0 tho

[worldly briar]

ok not everyone

[ivory ermine]

In that case

The game "intended way" of rotation and even memory sets are entirely different with what Meta actually have

[arctic wasp]

Daemonissa is on demon time cause they gave her sig and made her SS for free and she's a new frame so she's crushing it

[ivory ermine]

You just mixed up 2 different things that shouldn't be the same thing

[atomic arch]

ss6 for free nonetheless 😂

[celest condor]

does painissimo need hanyin and alisa to function? because I don't have/won't have either

(I got Rosetta and another amp though)

[atomic arch]

alisa is free

[celest condor]

also I know alisa is free, but I still have to build her

[arctic wasp]

Just get Alisa from dorms
It isn't hard

[worldly briar]

what's the intended way, and what's the meta? What's the diff?

[ivory ermine]

Pianissimo is going to need Echo more than Solactune

But yes Echo is free

[atomic arch]

so do it⁉️

[arctic wasp]

Don't ht or reso her then

[icy zephyr]

alisa is ok as qte bot, she gives the 100% crit rate which is rly important

[atomic arch]

how much does crit improve damage per hit anyway?

[icy zephyr]

pianissimo just twirls around and deletes the entire screen

[celest condor]

don't have enough resources yall, I've got tons of units to build first than alisa

[icy zephyr]

always 2x

[ivory ermine]

Doubled your physical damage

[atomic arch]

skill issue just dump 5000 serum into simulated battlefield

[icy zephyr]

so Alisa is pretty much non-negotiable

[ivory ermine]

Yes

[icy zephyr]

ur halving ur dmg without her lol

[ivory ermine]

Any existing Physical team is basically useless without Echo

Because how much of a damage loss you have

[atomic arch]

seems like every improvement ends up being 2x in this game

[icy zephyr]

all the constructs kits are extremely loaded nowadays

[onyx hazel]

Hello anyone here know if there's redeem code?

[icy zephyr]

remember when we actually had to learn PPC bosses' atk patterns and dodge them

[celest condor]

and about solactune, I always see people doing 4x rotations with here in WZ, so I thought she'd be more important go get

[icy zephyr]

now it's just who can sh*t out their rotation the fastest lmao

[celest condor]

not really (most stream codes are already expired)

[icy zephyr]

she only ever did double ult in WZ

[atomic arch]

theres the ones from the mobile event but they're kinda bad

[ivory ermine]

It's not about who's important or not

[icy zephyr]

and now in some cases she only does 1

[ivory ermine]

It's about which one that has an alternative that you don't have

Like what we've discussed, Echo is non-negotiable as Libero said

But

Solacetune is just another Physical tank

[icy zephyr]

echo is* non-negotiable

[ivory ermine]

If you don't have one, you have other characters that are also a Physical Tank

[icy zephyr]

Hanying so annoying to play anyways

you'll do fine without her

[ivory ermine]

For example Rosetta: Rigor is still a Valid physical tank for any physical team

[atomic arch]

is there a way to "optimize" the roguelikes time-wise or is it really just spamming them

[ivory ermine]

Anyone who says otherwise doesn't actually play the game

[celest condor]

I see, so the tank is there mainly for the buffs, guess I'll cope with rosseta then

[ivory ermine]

Not that I know one

[icy zephyr]

well, if Rosetta isn't SSS she's prob not gonna be clearing any WZ waves for u

Hanying can finish off a ton of waves in a single rot

so there is a performance loss there but in PPC u literally don't care

[ivory ermine]

If you can't even afford Solacetune in the first place, Optimal damage shouldn't be any of your concern

Whether it's going to kill or not

Don't overthink it

You're just going to overwhelm yourself putting an impossible standard for your own capability

[icy zephyr]

i think for new players it's not a question of can't afford, it's they don't have access to her rn lol

[ivory ermine]

It's such a common issue nowadays

[proven hamlet]

Just build a complete team with the most recent units of said roguelike and grab most of dmg cards you can get to speed it up, may as well look at guides in pinned messages to unlock different endiings and achievements that also add to xp. Do the 2nd hardest difficulty

[icy zephyr]

oh actually the beginner banner ig but there's higher prios

[ivory ermine]

They keep considering standards that are simply far from what they actually own

[worldly briar]

what are roguelikes

[icy zephyr]

yea that is true, most ppl here have a goal of actually scoring high in hero+ WZ and UPPC which is completely diff world from newer players games

[atomic arch]

the challenges on the alternative interpretation

[celest condor]

it's not about standers and more about having a reliable team, like I don't care about high scores I just need a useable team for each element

[atomic arch]

cursed waves
derived from matrix
awakening tundra

[icy zephyr]

like in meta-help you'll see us literally optimizing to clear a boss 1s faster xD

[celest condor]

like I've missed what's practicaly 1 and half year of units with the 3x patches

[worldly briar]

ahh I finished those, I forgot haha

[icy zephyr]

dw I left in 2022, came back ishy's patch and alr caught up (minus dark team)

kuro is very generous