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This sounds like the Qu being "worthless" without sig written all over it xD
half the replies i see are trolls š
Oh ya is that true
Either way I did get her sig
man the way im playing it seems thats true for a lot of characters tbh
She's better with sig but she is functional and fine without it.
I heard wanshi is fine without sig
Just keep rot
The existence of Lucid Dreamer makes it possible
Yeah, he still needs to swap and she fills in the downtime.
we'll see how my S sigless qu fares in the ice uppc stage once I figure out how to actually play lucid
Iām using him without sigma
?
How do U play wanshi
same but mine is also s5 so he's 1/4 of his potential
He is so difficult
True, this channel was literally chill at first when it was made 
Everyone is fine without their sig, no-one NEEDS it, its always a nice to have.
u press da buttons and he go boom boom
I'm chill
Just report the troll to us
He can properly cast his signature move and utilize all of his Tank passive skills without signature weapon required
That's what I would say playable or "fine"

Non competitive

you charge his gun with 3p then you either hold red orb (ice rotation) or hold dodge (glaciation rotation) to aim
Oh wait the hold provides different element?
If you are F2P, the chances of being competitive are lower unless you get lucky or are a very good player.
Didn't know that it's either element or affixes
most people do that in ppc, actually
he clears faster, unless you have a fat q* (sss) to use
and he's way easier to sss too
yeah hold dodge gives glaciation stacks
Just the facts of gacha gaming.
Good to see some people like @normal night still being chill and not trolling 
they're both ice damage but it depends on what team you're using
Ye Iām never seeing anything above hero
Ice team tho, qu wanshi and ayla
Yes
You have two different ways to enter/cast his core passive skills
I usually press the red orb
Each of the methods has its own usage
like if you had alisa and paininosso youd use glaciation (dodge)
That's how you start his core passive for Ice element yes
I'm here to help, trolling isn't really my thing. I'll crack jokes but if a newbie really needs help, help is what I'll give.
You learn a lot of stuff if you take time to read the character skills
W š
should I pull selena to get her to replace stigmata or get startrail from S rank selector to add to lucia+feral at SS0 (skipping dmc collab either way)
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/10892834/characters
Explore the 30 characters of Diceman from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
I mean he has two ult no?
I've seen F2P in Legend but if you see em there, they are usually very good players.
i do the tutorials for every character I get and I dont learn anything so I just go to youtube 
My goal is to hit legend in a year or two
Yes he does
But with different core passive skills, you can technically say he has 4 types of ultimate/signature move skills
how can you know if they're f2p?
Use gpt to simplify their skills if you donāt understand it
In a year is very doable
You can usually tell by their units and investments.
they claim themselves as f2p, im f2p too and been retaining legend
Easily done, i'll give it 6 months at most.
Well as long as you only get the necessary character without wasting much black cards
ok but you could just lie
Your username gave me heart attack 
Retaining Legend is way different to hitting Legend.
Make them show the thing in ship
Man such a legend
yessir u got it, also legend is easy to get nowdays.
i wasted a bunch of bc because i was getting things i later came to realize were permanent
But one thing you can't lie about is how easy the competition is currently going in Warzone
u can stalk ppl though to know if hes f2p or not, by looking at his coating collection
like the thunderbolt research :/
guys.. this is help channel right?
I just noticed my Lilith outdps lamia
sometimes yeah
lol
And it's not by a lot, dark team is so bad
50/50
what if i say both?
@celest condor anyway if you're skipping collab you can probably get both but I'd get nanami first
lilith is the dark dps yes
You lost the 80/20 of someone not responding
Selena is the better pick since the selector is permanent, sorry I missed the message when it was first sent.
What infinitas do you guys recommend for selena pianassimo
get selena first bruh, nanami banner is perm
Ohh
My Geiravor outdps pyroath š
????
selena boring though
Because i dont have her
Ohh
and?
same...
Only wedding SKIN HAHAHAHA
They asked for the better option, we provided gameplay aside.

Vera still outdps pyroath At SS-SS3 invest btw 
and nanami arutimeto supekutakuru
ya 
and which one should I get to SS first? I've got a limited amount of skulls
Nergi!
Hai

nani ga suki?
Getting Selena SS will never hurt.
Shut up
also all good, it's surprisingly lively today
Choco minto
How does Lilith's signature works?
Do I
- 3 ping yellow then red
or - 2x 3 ping yellow then red?
do i max all skills which one is the prio?
nanami is alright at s but selena is kinda bad so get her ss first
all of them bro she's the main dps of the team
Max all, if you donāt have enough then just do the ones in special skills and common effects first
She wants everything maxed so it doesn't matter on Prio.
thanks yall, I've seen one guy I forgot his name say S rank nanami is useless
yes
damn okay

hi besty
Hi 
aight
S rank most units are useless
i alternate between yellow and red until it reaches 5 stacks then ult i guess that's optimal
She ofc would like SS but she's fine at base S for now.
guess how many bc i have
so 3Y 1R 3Y 1R 3Y 1R ult
yeah well, what can you do other than
(and PAIN cage)
Not enough 
30 
if she is on field all the time do i level up qte later?
or be patient lol, there's always enough shards somewhere to buy out to get to SS
Pain cage, its a waiting game.
Wait why 
I pulled vera's weap 
Truly pain cage 
allllot of patience, I've been playing for almost two years (on and off), and it takes forever, only now with the 3x patches is better
It is true pain, lives up to the name.
But good news are sss wanshi, echo on her way to sss too.
Iām not ready to build another set for her so Iām holding back 
and qu on her way to ss 
Saw a guide I should do
3 ping yellow > red > 3 ping yellow x2> red > ult
It should net me 4 card bar, but usually I don't get much
What am I missing?
pain cage and vouchers for some characters
Unfortunately when we are synced up to CN, its gonna go back to being slow.
idk i always get 5 cards
outside of the rewards, im actually getting burnt out on these minigames, ill welcome the slowdown
whats your lilith at evolution wise
Ranks donāt change her rots just her dmg iirc
yeah, hopefully they'll be more generous with the S rank selectors, I already see one for bianca patch but it's not up to date
Its a lot for sure, half way through the patch, it should slow down when you catch up/complete the events.
In wz itās better to not use 5 cards since the 3rd red ping has a long animation. I see a lot of 242 action
Is level 61 too late to get a instructor? And what are the benefits of getting one?
Nope, never too late. You get more exp and mats
i dont really play warzone tbh 
has anyone actually finished the curesed wave type minigames? like got all rewards and tickets
u become a slave to them, but ye do get mentor, its like a passive income
Well itās rare to use 5 cards even in ppc 
several people yeah
good rewards
I'd gladly take a free unit, ofc I would like newer units but it is what it is.
maybe im stupid then cuz i do 
Alr thx
Ohh sounds kinda fair ig...
Whatever works 
the rate of events and minigames will stay the exact same as now
kusogames actually cut out tons of events cuz of this ketchup plan, that's why we don't get all of them now, otherwise we would need to do 3x more events now cuz 3 patches in one
should i become an instructor š¤
I have 3 alt accounts so I could have benefits of the basic tix, didnāt even neeed them in the end 
its up to u, i stopped collecting them slaves bcs 98% of them actually quit at lvl78
With Wanshi, which skill do u use first. The hold red orb > hold basic attack. Or hold red orb > spam red orb?
why would they wtf š
what do you gain though aside from bluetix
Daemonissa rotation is very flexible especially with the Cottie set
Too flexible even
I still haven't understood the optimal rotation for her
What I do is first rot 12 bullet swap off. Next rot 18 bullet theb 30 flying ult then another 12 bullet 
instructor get exp bonus too but only if ur student do their guide mission
you gotta charge the revolver first with ||I think|| 2 3pings
Depends on the team he is in, If he is in ice, swap in, 3 ping and hold red and start popping off shots, if he is in Glacio, swap in 3 ping and hold dodge, pop off shots.
But I'm just playing her the way I understood
Ik ik, im asking after its charged
on ice i just hold red then hold ba
then sig after emptying
Qu cooldown too long just to do 2 ults 
i dont have her i cope solo wanshi at s5 
Swap in
3 blue orbs 3 times
Signature move 1
3 yellow orbs 1 time
Red orb
3 yellow orbs 2 times
Red orb
Signature move 2
3 blue orbs 2 times
Signature move 1
3 yellow orbs 1 time
Red orb
3 yellow orbs 1 time
Red orb
Signature move 2
_ _
2 rotation
i still have the selector i just dont know if its worth it considering i dont have enough for her sig or ss
In one swap
Oh, never done this tbh
Probably just wait until you have a stable income 
The timing for 30 flying ult is kinda tight since you need to ult instantly 
why 3x blue on swap in
I've only ever done 2
i might just skip a few meals tbh 
Lunch isnāt that important
Her blue orbs that you cast will be converted to her yellow orbs in her ultimate mode
but u get a matrix ping on that first ult
So I just use all of them to give me enough signal orbs for her
also isn't there a limit..?
You also need lingya on your amp
No
The only limit if there was one is gonna be the 16 signal orbs slot
oh ok
but thats unoptimal
I've never needed 3x blue to do a double ult rot tho
I usually do yellow red yellow red ult2, and then full for 2nd
she solos dark content for me since I dont have lamia
does alisa do anything on phys below 3s?
Yeah
Sheās the filler while Selena/hanying cooldown are up 
She's the reason why your Physical team can get a 100% crit hit rate on any attack
He probably meant dmg wise
u just swap in and ult as fast as u can xD
i dont have hanying is that why my damage is poopoo
not rly anything tangible compared to selena and hanying
Then solo Selena 
i am and damage is stil bad...
Because itās cope 
Selena flower ult debuff being tied (partially) to swaps makes her a pretty bad pick for solo xD
although if ur ss0 u don't need to worry abt that anyways
just to confirm alisa is 2x dv 4x signa right
Yes
She still wonāt do much itās just better for the team 
SS wanshi is a must but sig isn't required, am I right?
Sig isnāt required in his rotation similar to nanami but is a huge buff to their dmg
I mean I played him on a S rank just fine
But yes
He's already fully functional without his signature weapon
I am a bit annoyed that I need to double 3ping after swap to proc his pew pew mode, so I am considering his SS.
Every character needs SS to function properly
Yeah
His SS rank upgrade makes his rotation very smooth
which of the main elemental teams (aside from lightning) is most important to get all characters?
Do I get Liv or Lee with this one?
none
Id say fire (because of the stupid Vera weather) and void maybe since void characters can work in so many different teams
Least priority for full team rn id say is dark,lightning and ice is debatable
theres no means of getting void now tho
Bricked 
For context, I do need some kind of support for LuciWaif. Since I'm running on Sophia for support/heal but I feel like I'm still lacking damage, and Soph is raised well, no sig but is currently SSS1.
bricked by starting too late š
Hey guys is the selector getting reset or something
man i REALLY need pyroath but people keep convincing me to wait till anniversary
Phys team also kinda requires the whole team or itās just ehgh
Maybe during cn Anni
yeah next patch so spend yours now
I'm still saving my Ishmael Patch selector
Fr? wowzers
...Wait. Are trying to tell me to get Wata Epi?
Vera is on banner 
I have no pity count. I used it on Sele.
vera is on banner rn + theres a selector for epitaph
Itās not, itās likely during cn Anni
bro next patch is dmc i got them mixed up mb @hollow ginkgo
Oh alright
Guess I'm still saving it lol
You still have enough time to get her
where I can find that room that spider2b uses in his showcase videos? (I need to practice my rots)
Also epitaph already outclasses Lee who is also outclassed by both pyroath and Vera in the fire team
Battle > study > trial zone > and then the 2nd tab
@ruby lion did you use your selector
Trial zone should have the coatings image
nvm read above he did
Okay so what you could have done was
Save your selector until vera gets added there and get her
What I'm doing rn
Why wait until anni
cuz then its 100% instead of the 70/30 now on arrival
DMc has banners up to Selena 100% guarantee
Ahhhh
man it would've been so cool if DMC patch lasted longer
Players playing during or after Ishmael patch have it bad since they can only pick nana from basic banner and then pyroath from thunderbolt
Guess I'll whale again š
More appropriate sentence: If patch was a merge patch with bianca
really tempted on pushing my luck on arrival tho since if I don't get lucia i can at least get sss wanshi
Not yet. I'm still thinking.
I just realized I could get Watanabe with this as well.
I do need Ice tho. But my ice lineup... Let's say it's nonexistent.
Cn wouldāve rioted lmfao
Why
Wanshi can cope as solo ice dps 
because we get more chances at dante and Vergil?
cn are spoiled brats... ||dont tell them i said that tho||
That's what I'm doing rn LOL
They just got Bianca patch + yea ppl wouldāve had a lot of pulls for dmc
wait, so if I wana the new selena, can I wait till the next patch, or is it a different rate banner?
Yeah pretty much, itās 100% guarantee selector with unlimited selects 
Not great tho 
I have almost a million dormitory shop currency waiting for a new free character to drop
I just use them for hypertune mats
I'm betting on Scire becoming the next one
man i selected uppc because i needed the skulls but i really miss the BCs 
Nah
I hope veron is a dorm character
Or Empyrea
bro you only need 100k for a unit just spend it š
if you say so
also how do you play wanshi properly
how much you wanna bet there still wont be a new dark tank when that happens
Idk for solo 
he has 3 rotations
glaciation
ult
the spin ult
I only know his rot in qu team
how do people chain normal ult into his spin ult
I've just decided.
The only choices(that I think are good) are Liv-Emp, LeeReal, Wata, Rosetta... Or Qu(but she really doesn't need to be here).
12 bullet ult then 2x3p hold red and hold ba spin until 30 ult
I donāt do that but thatās how other ppl do it
Rest are either dupes or not good enough.
Only real choices are qu and Wata
why would you get liv empyrea at this point bro
Do you play by meta or nah
Lee real as I said is outclassed by epitaph in dmg and liv is outclassed by new Vera
A mix of both what I feel and yes, meta.
If you want to clear content then the only viable characters from selectors are; Nanamer, Solacetune, Ishmael, Pyroath, Watanabe, Lilith (?) idk if she there lol.
I mean, I have Karen ember thinking that she's good in my first days. 
Wrong selector 
lilith is good yes
Question mark is referring if shes in the standard selector
I don't think she's there yet
Also donāt get Watanabe from thunderbolt like I did 
she has free ss6 tho so whatever
FREE SS6? WHERE
Is getting 360k score pretty much impossible here?
I only got free ss
Which boss
The Emperor middle one probably
what invest
Looks like fushen
free unit from insatiable research + ppc + voucher shop
Outlier, this one is alpha
Alpha 
bruh why would u mald outlier
u can one shot her with Ishmael team
6 seconds and done
i should prioritize pyroath asap and get her sig right?
I'm referring to the one that only has up til Qu tho. Not the Thunderbolt one.
Why are you assuming I'm mald?
I'm just being curious here
I got her SS from insatiable research (got lucky on my pulls) and i still didn't get her vouchers or ppc
Probably not impossible if you just abuse Ishmael time stop 
This means I can get SSS?
how do i trade coating sketch to coating blueprint ? i forgot how
It's pretty easy anyway
Couple outlier I need to repeat to get final reward
well u did ask is it impossible to 360k a boss whos retired...
idk maybe
buy in dorm shop
convert to ticket in shop
Pure curiosity
Don't assume everyone is mald
nah eveyrone is malding
I didn't even know it's not possible
I am mald when I'm fighting the new bs ppc enemies 
some of them take too long
(Gwynplain)
I malded for so long in emeperor to get 600k
What score is generally impossible in outlier?
which orb for pyroath infinita? does it matter?
hamlet
definitely Hamlet imo
Doesnāt matter but red anyways 
alright thanks
Red
if i combine here does that just get him to ss or do i get the extra copy?
Scrap 3 to get any for free bro
So is it Watanabe then? I guess that's the general consensus here.

I mean the amount of score that is impossible
Like what's the max score possible at hard difficulty
He's weird
need 2 copies to get ss cub
on that tab yeah?
Dude said 360k was impossible
very Buggy, I can't get past 590k
If you don't have either then epitaph, especially if you missed pyroath
anything below 5 seconds is impossible as of now
Not at all
What score though
No hereās the tech, basically you craft 3 cubs with ores, scrap 3 and go into the exchange shop to get any 1 for free 
idk i never care abt scores, only time
He can go beyond 580k with lamia, oblivion, ishmael
Lots of units you can use
Hell 0:05
Final Score: 364872
there
Never SS cubs if youāre f2p
Okay idk if I'm mixing bosses
there's this enemy that won't shut the hell up and he has weird camera bugs and time lag calculation bugs whenever u ult
I do have Pyro tho.
i meant like was that the tab that i crafted the spare one in or was that the one to evolve him
i figured it out now, got the extra copy
He's in Outlier
hamlet?
No the exchange shop
what bug with him though
Hamlet doesnāt stop time during outros lmfao itās a feature
also for some reason motorbolt keeps getting unequipped why is that
hes super easy to kill, just stack alot of 3ping
I swear man, why cant all characters have Lilith matrix orb pick system, where if youre in matrix, it will only pick 1 orb as a 3 orb ping, even if the orb count is in 3 multiplication. As in 3,6,9,etc. Its so annoying sometimes knowing only 1 orb is needed for a 3 ping in matrix but having to waste 2 other orbs for no reason just because it is the same color next to each other.
Hamlet is the fastest kill you can get
Gen 3/leap stuff
Cw does it now too
Your team set ups dont have them equipped 
Welcome to upgraded gameplay 
Where the older frames do not have that feature.
true i forgor about that tyty
Just scrap motorbolt tbh
no i like having him in my collection
Also why tf doesnt jetavie have time lag brOOOoO
Sheās A rank
Fr
No A ranks have time stop 
Okay but she's cool and I wanted her to be meta
Haven't really tried. Maybe later and I'll see.
Her ult anim too damn long to not have one
Source: pfp
also motorbolt interactionss with cw are odd
sometimes it griefs me
but it's alright
No, shes SSS+ 

how much do cubs even help damage anyway
Because its confirmed for her to be SSS+ 
Wanshi cub gives him 2.5x on ult1 and 1.5x in ult 2
Nanami gives her 40% dmg boost
Selena gives permanent 40% atk buff
Same with Selena
how much gain does alpha cub gives?
-60% dmg for swapping to her
so like 10% from nihil boost, 5% from attack and 25% from that weird passive?
aww mannn 
Hey, Wanted to get some thoughts on smth I've been wondering. I have both Vera: Geiravor & Selena: Pianissimo. Vera's at SS from Phantom Pain while Selena's at S but I indeed to upgrade her to SS like I did for Vera.
My main question is: Who should I prioritize pulling copies for?
Donāt pull copies.
Don't pull copies, yet
If youāre f2p
Hi guys im a new player and I got the S-Rank Omniframe Choice pack that goes up to Qu Shukrah. Idk who to pick. I was thinking Alisa echo and Lamia lost lullaby looked cool but idk whos the best pick
no one
Focus on building your teams first
Alisa is free and lamia is dead
qu/wata
How is Alisa free?
Lamia Powercreep š damn you Kusogames
Dorm commissions
you can get her for free at the dormitories shop
She was my first S rank
Alr thx
So here's my lineup of Fire constructs.
The ones that aren't there is Karen A and Bridget.
Guess I'm going Wata (even tho I kinda like picking Liv for more sustain and I like Lee's playstyle.) 
you may also get wanshi: lucid dreamer and ayla: kaleido from that shop
for free
I really really really want this skin
Ayla is so washed
Get it then. 
And?
I still went for it knowing that. 
I can always whale for that skin later
Fair.
Where in the shop? I dont see any units
Number one priority is getting the limited sparda bros
Okay so, you need to enter the dormitory
Yeah
there's a shop button, click on it and find the option with
Uhhh I don't remember the name of the currency
but it's the commission currency
Basically they're shards, you convert 50 shards to a character
Yeah exactly
Oh alr i was looking at the other shop
Which one should i try to get first?
50****
Wanshi >echo
If we go by meta, Wanshi > Echo > Ayla
Depends on your agenda tho 
Alr
Alisa is the backbone of the phys team since she gives 100% crit
Thought that was Selena
No
i don't think 100% crit does anything if your character is a s rank bianca
It does surprisingly 
wow
Iāve seen that one windlao clip of him missing crits back in luminance days 
final question before I sleep
who should I invest on from the vouchers shop
Ok, I've gotten answers saying to not pull for copies. Is that cuz of the DMC event coming up? If so, then this is what Ik from the research I've done.
Any card that's not a black card is meaningless & cannot be converted to event cards for the DMC event. Including the Orange R&D Event Cards. So in my mind, they're not worth saving at this time.
Man this is getting difficult.
I managed to narrow it down to 3 candidates yet still hard to pick.
Liv (amplifier, sustain and some buffs[I have skill issues aight?])
Lee (attacker, I really like his playstyle, and he hot AF)
Wata ("tank", apparently eclipses everyone in the selection, need to learn later, and he hot AF as well)
Jeez I have never experienced this type of pressure before on a selection pack. 
You donāt need SS from pulling copies, itās generally a bad idea to pull copies at all if youāre f2p. If you want to SS3 someone then the list goes nanami > Selena > pyroath
Liv and Lee are both wayyyyyy out of meta
its not recommended because for the price of ss3 you could get a new character and for a f2p that might be better
if you're spending tho, go nuts
Lee got cooked after like 1 patch 
I know, and it's a shame cuz Lee's playstyle is cool.
I mean if he do get Leap, who knows.
Itās too late for that
if you dont have shukra she could also be a good choice but she does require a bit more investment ||or so ive heard||
DAMMIT WHY 
Sheās still sucky to play even with dlt cuz of orb rng
That could prove useful.
...if I ever invested on an Ice team. 
Wanshi is the cooler version of hyper Lee, quite literally
solo wanshi is proving to be hard tho
You have s5
Hang on imma try out Wata in tutorial. Brb.
i dont have any means of getting ss tho š
man yk what imma just go back to farming bc in story
cant touch uppc cant touch norman dont feel like doing wz
True, I was planning on Upgrading Selena to SS using Phantom Pain Cage anyways. Only problem with that order is I don't have Nanami or Pyroath.
True, cuz who knows. Maybe Kuro may actually release an S Rank Bridget Ardeo XD
Tho tbh, I've thought about Vera: Geiravor more in terms of copies cuz I've heard she's a good amplifier for Dante in the upcoming event.
Ok I just tested out Wata.
...and I can see why Lee's shafted real hard. 
Are there any working redeem codes rn
Yeah, still need to see that for myself. I need to get him a better weapon & maybe SS Rank him for bonus Shred first. Definitely the weapon first.
Nope
Try NewSelena010g and NewVera020g
wild jambu appears
What the heck is that
Damn nothing works
is the 7 days boon worth it
monthly pass A is slightly better RC to BC ratio, but if you want the quick BC then you could do 7 day boon but it's about 500 BC less than pass
holy starfarer back in the meta
We shouldn't have ping on? Oops, I apologize to those I've pinged without knowing š
I'll keep that in mind for later.
Can someone show the location of all the characters in the web event?
I'm stuck at 19/20
is this an example of a bricked account?
Web Event? Never heard of it.
the last one is in the share button, click the copy link
Oh thanks bro
What now?
Oh nvm it is already 20/20
Thanks
Huh, interesting. Is that happening rn?
Yes
Should I pull her or save bc for next update?
Till 8/11
Pull her only for yellow cards, save the black ones for the dmc if you want the collab characters
that banner's 70%, wait till next next patch to get her for 100%
Wait, now I'm confused. I don't have PGR on my phone so I'm on PC. How can I participate in this event? Just curious cuz of that QR code I get pulled up to on the link.
You don't want Vergil
login with google/apple account (enter that link first, it's in pgr global Twitter)
Ik I do. FOR POWER!!!!! XD
I'm already in the game.
were there any easter egg for Dante
you don't have to be in game, just login through browser
Ty yall
woah, where's that from?
Powercreep in aura farming
man stronghold from 22 is tedious asf
You mean the main website? If so, I don't see anything about loginning in.
Helo my good people
Piano Selena event in Vera's story
can you enter this link through browser?
chat I just went through the effort of learning ice team only for them to score worse than my nihil in ice ppc am I cooked š
yeah i have already completed it
Where another 1
same here... hopefully they'll have a new ice dps in the near future
shareeee button
ice amp liv that does dmg like lilith!
share button
Share or the vending machine
Ohh
Came here to ask anni when
What resonance should I give to feral??
go to inspect on your page and click this then refresh. this tricks the website into thinking you're on mobile
the liv in the Livestream? is it confirmed
not confirmed but it's like vaguely blueish
then what's your take on Veronica
How can you be sure she do dmg when its not even confirmed lol
you can find it on pgr website i do mine from there
pray to god she's a dark tank get daren outta here
Tbf she probably will but no one has any info on it yet
I use it too
But sometimes ppl recommend others and the website another
it was a response to a "hopefully" and my "hopefully" is that
I got all cog and serum fk unlucky
Will we get our anni
I've heard someone say it's supposed to be today in global (I don't see it though), cn is in like December
And will we get the background

Nothing happened yesterday 
Yeah ppl told me it should be yesterday
I Just wanna Catch Up with cn
Never!
And then i saw the countdown post today

Still no clue when anni

Not at the cost of crippling pull economy and other stuff
We follow cn anni now 
yesterday. it's over already, nothing to see, we get nothing. 
Well... I scanned the QR Code, Entered, found construsts, obtained rewards... but they're not transferring to my game. Did I do smth wrong?
Anyone know the ammount of BC you can get during dmc collab? I m skipping it for the next patch
Gotta redeem the code
What code? I didn't at all see 1.
ty
detector menu > my prizes > copy all those codes one by one
Do we know how good vergil and dante is? Im planning to get qu sig weapon and i only have 7k bc
Ok, now I see them. Thx for the help.
So like 11k BC ehhh that s a bit iffy but eh it will get me the construct. Gotta work hard for that SSS
Very good in their content
I'll keep this on hand too for my Black Card saving Investment plans. Thx X3
It s a bit of an iffy question. Their teams will be the best for their content but for ignite nanami startrail does pretty well unless dante is SSS. As for ultima slash.... Stigmata s dead either vegil or no ultima slash. Still i m skipping it for bianca
Or maybe get 1 vergil just cause i ll see
Id say they worth a bit more now that we have ts uppc
But their use case is still very limited in general
Does solo wanshi need dlt?
I mean noobs who aren t in hero won t really benefit
So unless youre playing competitively skipping them is not that bad
Lucia pyro still has higher fire dmg than dante right. I dont have nanami and there is free dante so i can use that right for ignite
Im skipping dante 
As a wanshi user before qukra. Yes
You will run out of orbs to fill the bar and has to hold evade to charge
Yeah but i do recommand getting nanami she s just amazing
Ignite dps? Check
Lightning dps? Check
Plasma team sub dps for waiting lucia to be off cd? Def. Check
Nanami has 100% uptime solo. She won t require teammates for orbs
When can i get her? Will she come back next patch or is she available in the next selector?
Zaza: check
Thunderbolt research
U dont have thunderbolt banner?
The next selector is up to qukra and epitaph
100% rate and the other stuff is better then standard gacha
I thought you can only get cw and weapon in the thunderbolt wth. Time to grind that
There should be like a permanent gacha there where the main prize is a selector up to nanami
15k bc cost
Thereās a separate banner that you can pull 
Thunderbolt research 
Here i am using arclight as qte because i dont have garnet when i can get nanami in thunderbolt
Whatās the rotation you use?
Can t say rn i d recommand u ask someone else
You cant grind this
Have to gacha
gacha š¤
Lurk #šØć»meta-help later today, there should be some malder who can help with that
I only know the triple ult rot
Do malders even solo wanshi 
I feel like ppl with solo wanshi just one tap and call it a day
Should i get nanami first before qu sig?
yes
ice sucks anyway
Is nanami the best i can get there? Bacause im missing oblivion, solacetune, pharphelion, dark tank and nanami
Nanami will always be the best pick
Aight, thanks everyone
Fork
Uhhhh... 17/09/25 for a date? What's that suppose to mean exactly?
17th september 2025
The american mind cant comprehend this
No we can't since we have the month & day numbers flipped lol
Excuse me . I tried trying pgr on my laptop but for some reason, this attack isn't working and I can't find where they said class camera mode and why and you change the attack button>?? Ok help
Press y to change camera mode
I mean, unless there is a 17th month, you can assume the order already 
What is the best memo for lucid?
do you have his sig
4liston 4chen or 4liston 2ein no sig
Grayravens website error?
if you're playing glaciation team echo will be the 3rd slot, she's free from dorm shop
Its down right now, if you need builds to go #šØć»bot-info type /build and the characters name.
don't forget to upgrade leap skills btw
Ty
Im looking for affix team comp and i want to read about affix cause i dont understand them as i am a returning player
Yeah i am replaying the story while using selena and wanshi for me to familiarize
What sets did u put on shulkra and Ayla?
If solo wanshi
shukra 4dv 2ein 2gloria with sig or just 2ein without sig, ayla 4guin 4sam or 2sam if no sig
Sam?
samantha, its a 5star memory
Will their qtes still do a lot of dmg?
Who would I use instead?
any amp
But Ayla is the amp
yea, just have another perferably vera or lilith
in that case ayla would hold 4dv and 2ein
What about it the other wanshi? Can I use him?
why not just luna lilick/vera(if they ahve harmo and weapon reso)
What does enabler enable in affix comp? And does it mean i should leap my CW so i have darkflow dps?
they probably dont have luna 
I do
enabler means activating the affix mode. and darkflow still dont have content
But for cubs tickets mode, I canāt use the same characters twice
Why DV on Qu? She is still usable and good. She helps for the downtime of Wanshi?
hes soloing wanshi
So what do I do if my Lilith Ishmael and Luna are locked
for example, using lilick in ion requires u to do
blue blue blue ult, hold attack and ult in order to enable ion
Interesting...

then u have to use qu using her own set
Itās cause they qu without weapon is a bust
Not true but she isn't her best.
qu can probably do 1 ult before leaving field
or u could borrow my qu if youre in Asia 
or ask anyone's qu if theyre from ur server
Ok
And this ppc, I canāt use Lilith right?
Bc sheās locked to plasma beam boss
honestly this ppc is kinda bust if you dont have SSS wanshi without qu or qu
ye emperor faking tank fk
I did fine without SSS Wanshi at 580k.
i malded for 2 straight hours to get 600k 
ok without qu tho
so real 
How does one use the blue orb of pyroath?
use lilith to enable plasma
fork
why wanshi feels weak? is it because i choose wrong memory thing? barely does any damage on warzone
no sig
so i need sig to make him strong?
bruh
i mean it goes the same for all characters 
hes gonna be just okay without his sig, still does rotations properly, with sig it makes him stronger
I dont think u need qu to 580k emperor if u have SSS wanshi
thats what i said 
Sig quite literally doubles the damage
if you have SSS wanshi or SS wanshi with qu then emperor is easy 
Ohh i thought u disagree with him

no its just super weak, i only can do 7 or 8 waves on warzone, my nanami weapon is also 5 star weapon but can do 10 waves

wanshi sig also boosted the whole team dps 
Nanami is a powerhouse
well im new
ahh fair enough then

U need his cubs. Basically double damage
His cubs staight better than his signature
gen chat when gray raven website gonna get fixed
probably send vid just for ppl to advice on how to play
i see
dedsite, just use bot
nuh uh weapon harmony
š i need to read the beginner guide they have
just curious, what else u guys looking for other than build in grr website?
wait we dont have beginner guide in here??
i dont have screen recorder, im afraid the game ban me if i use 3rd app to use screen recorder
@worldly briar was sleeping
the ones i found link the website specifically
nah it wont, i use 3rd party app to record gameplay all the time
btw check lina's twitter, i think she redirect u to other site like grr
this one
Np everyone has to 
omgg thank u
Who should i choose?
Depends on your account, the top two options are Qu Shukra and Watanabe Epitaph.
Ouuu, wait
yea
Explore the 24 characters of Lee-Sama from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
I'd choose Wata in your case, You can get Wanshi and Ayla for free in the dorm shop.
Ouuhhh, thanks
Guys what should I select for resonance?
Deadline timing for Selena.
So i should spend this on wanshi and ayla?
Wanshi first then Ayla.
wanshi > alisa > ayla
Ouhhh ight thankss
What do you do with them after getting those three and the dorm members
hypertune mats
i dont even have ayla
Thank you
Got it
Aylas my least like amp 
i like her shes just a little usesless in my roster
She's always been my most hated, her gameplay is pure ass.
Tbf, A lot of the amps are just ass to play, their buffs are just too good.
gen3 amps however 
ayla solo ppc back in the days was fun 
Nah I'd say they were okay for the most part
Empyrea especially
Empy was the only fun one imo.
Anyone know when daily reset is
Half an hour.
34 min 
everyday 7am UTC
9am cest

I just got the ticket for the frames, should I get empyrea or Epitaph watanabe for Pyroath or Selena?
epitpah, liv is already dead
Wata, Vera Geiravor replaces Liv and she is still on 100% debut.
I don't want to pull for vera
so watanabe it is?
Yep.

Can someone tell me which team I can form for now? I needa do some events with multiple teams and I rather quick clear em
why u dont want to pull for one of the best unit 
you can build like 1/3 of 2 teams 
why dat camu lvl80 
Because I got no one else to use..
Also i got this maybe it'll save my acc
solo alpha team, solo selena team
get nanami from basic selector, vera from on banner, pyroath from thunderbolt, wata from blissful, lilith from her free banner
then you have like 3 teams pretty much
most definitely, pick wata ig

I tried
Oblivion, Lilith, & Wanshi,
as well as
Vera, Lilith, & Wanshi,
but
Kaleido, Lilith, & Wanshi
gave me a much better score.
gotta try them all since I donāt have Qu lol
I wonder if an A rank Ice element attacker unit would give me better results tho -
like
Kaleido, Bambinata SSS+, & Wanshi
also dont forget to farm dorm
Thunderbolt?
Watanabe Epitaph?
yep yep
Oh im saving my Blackcards for dmc first š
dmc mentioned 
for 6 star weapon choice i pick tonitrus right
prob worse if u replace lilick with A rank bcs of lilick amp buff
I can show the rest but i got told tonitrus back then
get tonitrus indeed
u can get tonitrus or the lightning bow 
How much score
Does 5 star weapon choice matter
Im bouta choose for my Watanabe
not millions lol but
Oblivion, Lilith, and Wanshi ā 700k+
Vera, Lilith, and Wanshi ā 700k+
Kaleido, Lilith, and Wanshi got me up to 945k.
I thought Vera will get me higher score coz she's more invested than Kaleido
what abt lilith vs vera? whos more invested? kale > vera bcs kale give ice buffs which is more than atk buff alone
Sigless wanshi?
Lilith is more invested coz I don't have Vera's weapon. But Kaleido is not even hypertuned lol
ye kale dont need to ht, its like small small increase.
Cow was score decrease so idk
hey i ht qte bot 
Cow was base s rank sigless, wanshi was ss3 sigless, lilith ss3 r2
cursed mem position due to wrong planning 
Luna s rank with sig
interesting
i pulled luna sig tdy to harmo just to find out im missing 6 harmony mats 
U skipping dmc? 
Lul
Thank you
like 3atk
how messed up?
like 2ein 4liston
ohh
ein 12 liston 3456
not so messed up then
at least it aint like mine
Like this
where my 5* is on the bottom...
only my lamia has that 
why are her resonances so messed up
just gamba
wtf started 5 days and this much ss
also wtf how that crimeson abyss ss
any atk top or basic atk and ult bottom
Bless
thats true 5days and everybody SS????
I want that og alpha!!
Lmfao
i had to wait like 5 weeks before my first SS
I played back in 2019 for a month then dropped so crimson abyss was already s
You can mess sh up if ure obv a whel
The new characters r from 5 days ago tho
empl*yment feels great
Real
That HAS to be redacted? 
Should I just recycle my memories and redo it all
Ya i just bought 3x of both bp tiers 
you can re resonate its fine
Ohhh ok
you acnt scrap hypertuned mems anyways
But what abt positioning
ye just rereso and gamba
Nergi working arc when
Oh damn
I NEEEEEEEEEED THAT MY WANSHI IS STUCK ON SS3 FOR SOOOO LONG 
Ayeee me too
My wanshi just turned SSS
Alisa on her way
Ok is my positioning rly bad

my units have different investments, and I probably have some skill issues too - but I think itās a good reference lol
Should I make a new set
I want SS Qu like urs!!
SSS Wanshi feels real good
shut up

Mine doesnt have sig tho, has cib, still fine

Mine has sig no CUB 
Kaleido is sht
thats qu for me 
Kaleido perma qte
Bear claw 
horrible ice
Feral perma qte 
i sss feral using the selector but never get to use it til now...
I want to use cw bc shes alpha but sucks that she sucks at low investments
Okay reset brb
dw, just wait till alpha replaces alpha as the new lightning and darkflow attacker
Just fixed my reso thanks
Done dailies
at what point Wanshi can start doing solo? SSS plus weapon?
oh right reset
Just got 1.2k vouch from bp 
time to do the rest of my ppc
I had no choice but to solo him since i got him
80k bc enough for dante+vergil SSS + sig + weapon+cub?
yesnt
Damn. Thats a whole lot of bc
At least I have 450 now
You prop need to pull fate
š š
He just turned sss earlier, before that he was SS with cub no sig
SS3 with sig DLT ig?
100% Orb Recovery 
I didnt know i got that much lol
Not sure how good is that but sounds pretty cool
Ss3 plus weap is sufficient
I didnāt feel it 
My shukra is almost there š¤ without SS
how do I remove built memories? is there even a way to remove them and get back my materials?
Scrap
You can scrap them?
cant scrap hypertuned mems tho
I can only get one 6ā weapon holder per element (I think this is a good approach for me lol)
If you had to choose, would you choose Qu or Wanshi to get the weapon?
whoās more likely to get replaced earlier?
also, Wanshi can work in affix, while Qu only works on Ice, so I think getting Wanshiās weapon is better?
Does your gera has weap
I got 2 Selenaās sig. Only use I have for the extra is for weapon resonance right?
Pretty much yep.
yea
unless you have 2 selenas 
I have pianissmo and tempest 
wanshi is better

For weapon resonance, its deadline timing and afterglow right?
yea
yeah, I think Iām just going to get his weapon now and not wait for Qu. Iāll just let Qu stay crippled and have Wanshi solo instead lol
but wanshi doesnt need sig to work while qu is crippled, wouldnt it be better to enable full ice team rot rather than solo?
Thx
idk if sigless wanshi can glacio ornot tho havent tested
Guys I have a SSS Lilith now. I can go solo with her in any game mode right?
like norman? yea my ss3 lilith is enough to solo dark norman
with jetavie and 21 as qte bot
Cuz swapping into lullaby is gonna be dmg loss
hmmm, thatās a good question. but since Wanshi works on Affix, I think heās more likely to get replaced earlier than Qu?
norman doesnt have dmg check tho i dont think u strictly need solo
u dont solo with lilick in wz 
either dark swap team or zaza
But you can solo right? I donāt mind a little bit of dmg loss
idk wanshi still seems so strong whereas i heard some ppl say qu is getting outdated? or smth
its not abt the dmg loss, its abt orb sustain
I can have lullaby and 21 as qte bots right?
What abt with dead line timing on her weapon
same
U can offrate han and wanshi in gera weapon



