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Well I have mostly bought only BP and skins. And i am doing pretty well
I started with pyrotah release.
My recent big pull was Selena and got her to Ss from the Thunderbolt Pass
Got her weapon too
I get most of my pulls from BP and skull shop for SS
I did get lots of stuff from events by using premium currency though
Most notably feral BP
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My id if you want to check
Oooh send ur huaxu
Whatever that is xD idk they told me about it
No joke I came back for dmc this now being my 2nd gacha game
should I spend my currency on this thing as a new player?
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Who's better with sig ss0 qukra or ss0 Watanabe
Qu would like the wep more.
Thank you for making me choose qukra more
Im camba addict I do the 100 cards 1 :D
Ubstarted when?
Omg wow
Well im unemployed
So its hard to get 30 usd worth of the pass
YouTube money can only pay so much
Id rather earn less from home then having to go back to worm though
Well having Asian parents be like that
Where do i get blue tickets again?
I didn't know Bianca was given for free
why am I being told to download 40gb again for update 3.4.0 even though i have the game installed
I beeeelieve when it resets itāll put you in
Oh ok ty!
I could be wrong
I have to recharge for blue tickets base?
Oh those ones from daily cube card thingy
The base banner tickets
Operation Guardians gives some
Dang only that
U did a lot since April in the game
Pretty sure events and stuff aswelll
Let's be honest wallet carryed me a lot
is placements of memories matter? like 2 piece set should be bottom or top?
It does but barly its like 132 atk or 135 on some
Oh shoot I see an Arabic name
whats 132 and 135
Which should i pick ?
What selector is this?
like this is good? can i resonate all of them?
Im on ch9....on story. Im missing 30k bc there LOL
From gift event
Ch 14. I have watched youtube video about the story till ch 34 lol
should i pull for kitasan black?
Oh so ur wallet did help u got it
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There is a spending event i could take advantage
If I buy the passes
Guys is it possible to play Qu at base S rank with no sig
š I really donāt want to invest in her
Do you want to get your balls kicked in with spikes ?
Thought so
Hell no
I guess Iāll just solo wanshi
This game too generous to be playing sparingly
Not sure
how do u even solo with wanshi
I just donāt like Qu that much lol
This part
lmao how
Oh u can yes
I would like to keep my 30k bc for future liv and Selena skin s
https://huaxu.app/eu/players/25521947/characters
started late feb and i got like everything i should need
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So
I can't hold that long
Everything is fully built except vera
and some amps dont have weapons. but thats not needed
I got everyoneās wep besides watanabe
And 6 dupes š but in my eyes Qu is not worth it
Getting older charcter sometimes kinda sucks
qu is worth it
Yeah I got rossetta off my standard pity
So easy to play
Ima just cope ice with glaciation SS3 Selena
Qu is old for me
Qu is pretty old considering that lamia already got powercrept
With Bianca
Attackers usually get power creeped first
So what i have is good for Dark
But Qu still gonna last a good half year plus
They said ss3 the tanks like Wanshi Starrail etc
More value
Thatās true
yea... some by having no attacker
cough cough luna on dark team
But wife over meta
Im picking Watanabe on the free pull cause more men. And he can dos
I was contemplating whether I should SSS Selena but like new liv frame so
so invest qu!!! easy!!
I would Pick Lee tho gl
But Qu isnāt my wife
#needthat
You right she want ME
i like this one more
I was gonna be patient and wait for Vera off standard select
for fighting gwynplaine do i just have to apply fire damage or what?
who can you standard select
I uncoped my fire team
hanying?
Everyone up to Lilith rn
who WILL you
I have an urge to stalk yalls profile to see ur accounts
I was thinking SS3 pyraoth or save for new Bianca
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..easy pick
For.motivation
I own everyone for every element and affix team currently
will you skip dmc
Might invest in Dante
free
Not Vergil tho
Who skipped nier
i heard he sucks for ignition
SS3 and wep and cub
and nanami is better
ss3 i think tho
Plot twist. No one was around during Nier here
?
also what is a good team for gwynplaine for ppc
Well youāre going to need Dante with startrail tho
when in doubt you can always rely on arutimeto spektakuru for big scores
and yes I'm doing this because my dante invest is s0 5* wep without cub
if you're curious what score playing this invest dante gives, I got 4.2m
SS3 Startrail - 4sig 4cottie
SS0 Oblivion - 4shakes 2eins
SSS Daemonissa - 4dv 4guin
Wow ur account is wow
vera so buns
Don't say that when im about to pull her
my vera so buns
My plan is Watanabe on selector then Vera
Vera is not buns
Replacing her on my fire team doubled my wz score
Free selector*
š my Vera probably does double the damage pyraoth does on fire rn
And both same investment level so

Fair they are the best class
And that. Obv
Yes that part
For me its amps ngl
Idk i invest in whoever i like š there isnāt one class thatās super invested in for my account
For me its being tanky but doing so much damage
Besides Selena š
Yeye me too just many happen to be amps
Nanami can POP and I dont have her yet
Actually I think I have my attackers least invested in
The only two attackers I have well invested in rn is pyraoth and Selena
I solo startrail for lightning
I solo Lilith for dark
I solo wanshi for ice or cope glaciation
Wanshi is my first ice then ill get watanabe for first fire
Or maybe the other attackers just donāt do damage
I think Selena is my perfectly built unit for a f2pish player
Who was the attacker b4 pyro again
Lets seešāØļø
Wait I need to find my huaxu
Oh last proper attacker was qu
So yes mist are outdated
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My account needs work
bianca about to change that
Is there fast way to get cogs?
That simulated
simulated battlefield
Event shop
be like me and buy 135m cogs
Well thats fine seems u didnt start that long ago or are a returning player
Ice ? Qu isn't that old
very general help indeed
is it in the shop?
I started a yr and a half ago. I came back this June
qu is underperforming currently
Yeah but theres quite a gap between qu and pyroath
Iām praying new liv ice so I can just solo liv
or ice in general
Like solo Vera
Wrong chat my apologies
Ofcourse, but seriously, wanshi don't really shame her. Ayla in the contrary really need a replacement
qu laughs
Yeah i go by cn times and tbh any character that came out during early mid synch is cooked soon, glad vera came out near the end of it
I feel like the only ones cooked are Hangying
And Luna possibly
Me too, i have a weird addiction to amp solo's
hey how do i deal with the combustible modifier?
But the new affix system
So once the gen 2s get replaced they might just focus on that
Nah makes sense, u do need general help, maybe more tho tbhš
Since it was made as a solution to how fast people left the meta
And also after synch things are gonna go very slow
So even the people mid synch or before synch are gonna last a year or more
Yeah i like that, i also like that it allows for greater cope
use fire for it
Exactly
is applying the dmg enough or i gotta do something groovy?
You still gonna need old dps for much longer
Cuz we really donāt know how many affixes theyāre gonna make
who shall i SS first
Also Karenina is still meta and not yet replaced so
Atleast one for every 'normal' element
I wouldnāt worry about people like hangying
because i am running the appropriate team but i am unable to get the score i want whereas nanami startrail is singlehandedly carrying electro
The affix system is nice, multiple rotations for the same char in a different team, I like it
Selena
She NEEDS TO GTFO
Selena then Vera donāt buy Lilith shards
If youāre a beginner since you can get her high ranks without pain cage skulls
Oof it took me a while to find that
by voucher?
Yeah
U can SS her for free
it's gonna take a looong time though
wait a fkin minute
I basically SSS her the first week
Needed to wait for monthly shard reset
Now Iām trying to SSS wanshi
vera geiravoir shards can be bought with vouchers?
Yeah exactly and also dark is harder coping rn, fire is literally the most updated
Fire is the most updated
They usually available post this patch right?
Ice is going to be the most cope soon
yea and the most annoying too
Next patch*
do we get another selector next patch
No unless your S rank got leaped or came out in dorm (is a permanent free S rank like Lilith) then they not voucherable
Damn that's a Gag
i have lucia epi and vera and all of them are outdone by nanami startrail
Oh damn, took me a while as f2p cuz i returned during the patch but i pulled an extra copy in the limited event and used skulls to ss3, then used vouchers untill sss which i got last week
I was saying Selena SS first then Vera
So Watanabe can't be vouchers?
I saved many patches so
Or Nanami?
Watanbe canāt
Salute to u BTW...I cant
Nanami canāt
Not my daddy
Kinda is already, lilith cooks as a solo
But Liv will save ice
So how these f2p people's be ss3ing them?
Should I? 
Good luck or they skip a character
Worth every serum
Cuz a F2P can get every character
.......where?
But thatās it, usually they get weps if they lucky
The latest character that we can buy shards with voucher is CW, which is old now
Hi f2p over here
If you play everyday every f2p can definitely get every character
I spent 5 bucks but I'll call myself f2p
Fair i might save for a bit and if no one comes to voucher then ill use on wanshi soon
lilith, wanshi, echo
Really?
Cubs, weps, and extra rank ups are only possible if you spend a little or get really lucky
I guess f2ps can get a few weapons here and there
I don't count them since they're an exception because they are free
But still depends on luck
Weapons seem.more easy to get
Ss3 is fairly doable as f2p , its sss thats pain and requires loads of skipping which aint great
But basically you are right
Unless u LOVE them
If you keep hitting the 30 pity and loose the 80-20 then you doomed
Just a reminder that I prolly won't be getting her sig. And that's a disappoinment. 
as a new player. what should i be spending by black cards on now? I pulled both vera and selena and for my member target, I have hanying chosen. Do I just start saving now? And what should I use these selectors on?
Youāre still gonna need to skip unless you get lucky tho
should i use the free char picker on watanabe or should i go with whatever
@lime oriole No SS Pyroath š«µšš«µ
My first time was pulling was selenas weapon and I got both her weapons in that pull
Esp if you want weps too
what
Those selectors super old
I Canāt get her ( S aināt that bad tho )
great, now im wondering whether i should select qu shukra or watanabe, if i go for qu i have to go for her weapon... it's bad enough that i need to pull weapon for new characters, now i needa pull for old ones too
no living privilage
If you care about having a fun time playing Selena her wep is really important
Watanabe
so it doesn't matter who I choose?
if i get qu shukra weapon, she'll get obsolete soon anyway
At least ur blessing work and I got her sig

Exactly, but i have a seconsmd account for that. Atleast up until i have full teams for every element, then ill start sss my favs
what a game design fk me
Also hangying as the select for standard is a bit iffy cuz sheās def not a crazy priority rn

alright, guess ill pull for her weapon next
oh I saw she was paired with selena so I thought I should pull her, do you have any other recs?
Rn the most meta character is Nanami startrail
She's our Ultimaslash applicator
if veronica will be a dark tank then i hate to say it but dark will be the best team
You can pick rossetta and cope with her
10 years luck in those 10 pulls š¤
With one of the beginner selectors
remember we talked about skipping Solacetune from the Thunderbolt to save black cards and focus on new characters? lol well I thought back then she's skippable and I could just use Nanami or other physical tanks, but she's not skippable coz no one's gonna replace her from ultima slash since she's the enabler for that affix lol I already started pulling from Thunderbolt using orange tickets
š£ļø
If you care about warzone, Hanying is a must have
Yeah but sheās only good at being an enabler at SS3
affixes arent even mandatory to begin with
Oh by the way itās thereās a correct order to use Warzone?
Why, we love dark
And Vergil without high investment doesnāt even do crazy dmg
So true slash is not a priority team
yeah but idk, im kinda lost now, game is a mess to me
True slash becomes the best scoring team
Saving for the new Bianca?
Only once everyone is SSS+ so

guess in the end i dont really care that much about meta, ill just go for whoever is fun, even if i earn lesser bc in the end
Baby steps. EVENT guide is ur friend
I saw a SS Vergil run and true slash only hit 3.8 mil
Plasma F2P can hit 6.6 mil if you got skills
Like a lot of skill, but like even with some scuffed rotations at least 4 mil+
Ofc, after i get vera on main, i might try ss3 bianca if lucky, she seems rly fun so
just kinda stuck with what to do about the new selector
just skip dmc
Bianca is after DMC right?
whats the highest true slash score
Yup
I recommend Nanami star trail
Obv
I think it was like 17 mil? Or 20
Everyone SSS+ tho
Dang
Rank ups do a lot for both DMC characters
I need to start Pre farming I guess Bianca teammates will be Daemonissa and Starrail right?
Watanabe ofc
and I can just slap her on with selena for now?
No you canāt, but you wanted someone to pick off your selectors right?
The beginner selector has rossetta which was the old physical tank
She can be used for now
True, amps have the longest i think
Everyone in the beginner selector is old so
yeah, personally i like qu more, but then i'll have to pull her weapon, but if i do that, she'll be obsolete and i will be behind the future character/weapons, going for watanabe is good, but i prefer qu, but then in the future my acc will be bricked maybe, or guess ill wait for new ice dps, but now ill suffer without good ice team
Liv Empyrea
Rossetta probably the most usable
the highest i found is 17m and dark with SCIRE on the team has 17.8m
it's a long spiral of thoughts, but i guess ill just go qu
When i came back. Same. I wanted qu but the investment..
No
Oh well I didnāt include the new dark team with Bianca
true slash outperformed by dark out of all things
What does this mean?
harmony
Omg i respect her for carrying my fire team for so long, shes earned her rest
Kk
Send ur profile
Imma check
Huaxu it
Do i need to harmonize that or can I harmonize all of them?
Which can do on 6 star weapons
do you want to oull sig for a character on the worst team
here
U can link it xD
No u dont,u wanna cope wanshi till liv
Me rn
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My wanshi took 4000 serum
ah ok so use rossetta with selena and then pull for nanami?
Literally
Heās
if i dont, she'll feel "uncomfortable" to play as said by others
I aint a fan of qu but ayla can khs
Yes, rossetta Alisa and Selena for physical works
Ur acco7nt is good i see that Vera
ayla fr, her milkers are too big fook me
not uncomfortable, shes purely ass without it
If u have fera get Watanabe
xD, dont got her weapon yet though

Her wep is not important unless for dmg
Yeah but u have Pyroath
Thats the fire team
alright i guess ill juz go watanabe for now
I want to say that I have pyroath and her sig and Vera with her sig does in fact do significantly more dmg than pyraoth
Nah still way smaller than her ugly,annoying af, tasteless weird personality, and unicorn puke ahh design
But pyroath is so fun on plasma so donāt skip out on her
Pyroath goated
Highest scoring wz slight investment is def plasma
Ill have Dante before Pyroath
Like if you just have wep and DLT on pyroath you can still score like 5 mil in plasma
If everyone else is SS
Both work, pyroath is defo better in fire tho
Or well Lilith SS3
I had the same question - i even lied that i already picked Qu on a post just to check other people's opinion on how bad my choice is lol. but yeah, we need her weapon for smoother rotation or she kinda broken without it, so i'm just going for Watanabe. someone told me yesterday that in two months we'll get another free S selector up to Qu again - so i'll just get her next time (not sure if that's true tho lol)
But Lilith SS3 super easy to get so
Pyroath way better in plasma LOL
She does triple the dmg in plasma
Her multipliers are significantly higher
plasma huh, ok ill learn her rotation for my wz this week
Its more safe
another question, should I save my event construct tickets now or just keep trying to pull for selena copies?
I scored 5.5 mil in plasma this week with SSr1 everyone no cubs
I dont like meta but its for comfort and safety as a f2p
Besides Lilith whoās cub isnāt even used for plasma
Qu will get quilled by Liv
true, watanabe is indeed safer, but qu's thighs š , i guess ill have to think about the thunderbolt manual next too for solacetune
Speaking of multipliers, yall know the multipliers for parent element in affix and vice versa? (Like ice in glation, and glaciation in ice)
Oh wait I forgot SSS Lilith oops but the only thing she contributes to plasma at SSS that SS3 doesnāt is 10% dmg increase and slightly more dmg
You'll get better thighs
cheers to better thighs in the future
Ayla said hi
Needless to say Iāve seen SS3 liliths with my team do 6 mil in plasma so
Highly skill dependent
her boba is monstrously big, i'm scared
I mean, althougj hidden, wanshi has great ones too
Its okay
YEssssssss WOOH
I need a dps wanshi sword frame
Which sword?
I mean just not gun as weapon, i find swords more satisfying
oh actually i went and see ayla's boba, it was not as big as i last remembered lol, i take that back
Oh a SWORD I thought..that sword
OH
She wishes she was Dr Curvy
you can start pulling on the Thunderbolt if you already got Selena and Vera, coz there's nothing else we can use orange tickets for, (unless you getting weapon) and we're only gonna use black cards on DMC - only use orange tickets on the Thunderbolt
||That one tooš||
You know it
indeed, BUT what about the upcoming bianca (i think that's the new character after dmc patch)

yez, but what's gonna replace my funds if i pull on thunderbolt manual š
Wwe superstars be replacing them
Grind more
The credit card
i think that's too far to think about - we're still on this patch, then dmc, then Bianca
All my serum went to Wanshi
aight fair, i forgot the grind option, ive been stuck on story chapter 12 for a month now lmao
I have so much u completed story and all the cursed waves and the other 3 long ass modes
My selena can one shot them
aight bet, ima go pull now
....oof
Ill do it for ss3 bianca
I have to do em
Event Guide is ur friend
aight, happy grinding then
Worth every serum
Now i have stockpile again
im dreading it
See this is the problem how can I do story
When stamina is so high
Sure I had 10k serum saved but their gone
Forgot story uses serum
One hidden stage is 24
I know right..
Anyone uses Jetavie here?
Use bc
Um I need a simp atp
Jk ofc pls dont
Does the pass give Serum?
I mean u are dr curvy should be ez, no?
Just know itās never as good
Well im vanilla
I didn't live when I was a teenager lol
and @DMC In August shared a picture before that you can get around 26k black cards from the main story and side story. if we just do one chapter every day, we'll be able to finish it before Bianca comes out and already have more than enough black cards saved lol
Ofc ofc but better than off element i might ask in meta them run away b4 i get murdered
Liv likely a amplifier but gen 3 amplifiers all do massive dmg so yes
Unless ur like 70 ,uve got time to live heh
yezzir, im now 5 pulls in, no selector so far, how far you in
Well kids think im coffin age so
I was called a dad once
My prediction is Veronica dark tank with dark flow to complete the team (welcome back crimson weave), Liv ice amp maybe with the glow/light affix (same as new Bianca) and during CN anni we getting a new lightning dps
U 50 or sth?š
Thatās my prediction š
Worse 25
Letās see if Iām right
No im not talking about dmg and whatnot, I just need to know if theres a Jetavie enthusiast out there or smth. Because I have an issue with her where after switching to her blue or yellow orb seems to cannot be held immediately. (Yeah i use her, dont have fish lady)
UR STILL YOUNG CHILL, ONLY LIKE 1/3RD OR 1/4TH THE WAY THERE
i'm on my 7th pull lol thinking of grinding cursed waves and matrix because i'm out of orange tickets lol
Of course there's jetavie enthusiasts if you know where to look
I never experienced what teens did. Single since birth not that im worried lol
That would be cool tbh, then i could leave dark for like 2 yrs
Milk party?

What team is meta for nanami except cw one?(since cw require big investment to be worth it)
Iām also thinking Veronica might be voucherable
Yeah u dont need to worry tbh, also 25 is normal imo, maybe when 40 it gets a lil lonely
Nanami is meta in lightning (solo with 2 QTE bots), plasma (lightning shred is important for this affix), the new glow effect with new Bianca in the future, ignition (can solo in this affix too) and can be used as a cope fire tank if you donāt have Watanbe
THAT, WOULD BE GREAT
I saw a BL Drama called "thinfs I wanna do when I turn 40" first ep hits real
Itās about time we get another voucher S rank
If you look at the approximate time of each
It could be possible
We gonna need to wait 80 days tho
Never watched a bl somehow, gotta try one day
š to see and by then we likely would have caught up
Whats sad is thats thenonly thing I watch
This is why nanami currently most meta
Yeah agreed, especially with all the new s ranks and synch
And also DMC Bianca followed by only 1 A rank patch then another S rank is super rough for f2ps
who's qte bots?
Kuro wonāt do us dirty like that right?
Might also be amp liv which replaces ayla
They like voucherable amps
Feral and Liv Lux on 4 pc da Vinci and guin
Welp, manifest enough and it will become realityšāØļø
I am xd
Basically lightning supports running 4 pc da Vinci and 2 pc guin (4 pc guin if you have 6 star wep)
both wearing da vinci?
Oh they will for sure
Idk if i should hypertune wepi at this point
Yeah or you can run nanami with some of the void characters
Lemme see if I can find a vid
someone said that oblivion + vera would be good
Yes they are
Yeah
If you have Oblivion
i dont
If you don't then yeah
Luna + Vera (or Lilith)
i have vera tho
Then Nanami, feral scent (sheās free) and Liv lux
Daemonissa would be better simply because her rank up upgrades is free to get
do i need any shards or smthing for them?
No
Newbie evebt
Feral scent gains no dmg boosting effect from SS
Only damage so S rank should do the trick
Lux needs SSS tho for maximum effects
So for now you can run feral with Vera
Guys, do I need to get all CW's leap skills or should I unlock them when she's SSS?
I saw someone run feral with empy so should work ish
so its nanami, daemonissa + vera?
Should be feral plus daemonissa or Vera
Feral actually buffs lightning and sheās free
that's crazy good! i thought off element penalty was like 80%? (i don't even know if that's real, coz i asked the person where they got that number but they didnāt provide any evidence)
Plasma is an affix
I can try to find the video for the plasma team if you want
vera need something specific?
vera geiravor yeah?
No I was talking about how plasma is the highest scoring F2P team
So i know theres affix and whatnot, my only question is why to use them?
Yeah
Cuz most of them score higher than the base element
does she need anything for that team?
She needs da Vinci and guin
The basic support build for her
And also future bosses will probably have affix weakness in pain cage
Itās already happening in ultimate if you hit 1.8 mil in score
so no weapons, no rank SS or higher, no skills to level?
Wep is not needed
You should still at least level your amp class skill
so i keep lvl 1 weapon for her or i need like leveled 5*?
Weapon Tix are really hard to get. Where do you even get those?
Iām pretty sure you donāt need SS cuz it just gives herself dmg
You could
Event and you get very little
Usually like 1 pull per update
The red ones
so her weapon and dmg dont do anything if she's qte botting?
Yeah if youāre a QTE bot you basically donāt do dmg you just run da Vinci and boost the solo
thanks a lot man
Like for example Vera can also solo in fire with her sig, DLT and her signature memory set with 2 QTE bots
Do you have Nanami signature weapon?
no
but i'm like on 5-1 missions atm
DLT allows you to completely solo, without it, it still works but itās significantly less effective
Still works to some degree tho
Since nanami is not crazy orb hungry like Vera solo or Selena or pyraoth.
O damn, I forgot that Intensive battle is even there. i dont even know what its like in there, and the fked up part is Ive almost reached 1.8 :(. No hope for this week i dont have fire team at all
how to activate dlt?
I think during DMC ignition and or true slash might get a boss in pain cage not sure tho
Someone needs to fact check me
It's not that bad in here just alternative rotations/teams.
You need signature weapon and resonate it
With another 6 star wep or the wep resonance material
For F2P donāt use 6 star weps unless theyāre dupes
Or like a wep for a super old A rank or something
Or like a super old S rank
this one material?
Yep
DLT activates itself.
You can also resonate without this usb, you can use another 6* weapon
y'all think pulling for jetavie signature is worth it?
iirc a true slash boss to ppc and an ignition one for intensive battle
Nope, unless you really like her.
ok, but i'll get like 6 usb's so i guess i can use them
Oh yeah for sure, just letting you know the alternative way.
alr thanks haha I like her but she's not replacing Lamia in dark team for me š
btw what's harmoney do and how to activate it?
You also get them for free through the norman game mode.
Aight, now I need one final decision.
I got Nanami, but I don't have her main sig. Then there's Sele.
I only have enough resources to get one. Which one do I get?
if you need Selena for physical team then get her ig
Harmony needs account lvl 80 and a 6* weapon, you can navigate to it on the character menu by clicking the wep.
You need special capsules to unlock the weapon, once its unlocked you can then "put" two memories inside of there for the set bonuses, you don't get the additional stats though.
Selena first, weapons are permanent
I meant sigs.
Ohh ic
I just got her by pity.
btw what's her amp skill? Qte one?
Amp skills are class passives.
hmm
i just dont see that name in skills
It should be called class skill in passives I think
Yeah that
Woah
Well she is both, you qte bot her and the passive buff is just there.
How do you get to +7?
Resonance on memories and +1 for Border pact.
Well QTE buff is just a term for people who have no on field time and just run Da Vinci with some other support set
but her qte says that she do damage, what's the point of doing that
Itās to activate the buffs
Like da Vinci which boosts your on fielder atk by 30% after QTE
All qte skills do damage but its usually to proc buffs/debuffs or traits of skills.
make sense now
That reminds me, if I hypertune my memories for a construct, can I modify the resonances later?
Yes
Yeah I got the border pact but not sure how to get the other 6
Memory resonance on Class skill will do the trick.
Its different from character to character, build to build.
My vera is on support, thats why she is using it, if she were on sub/main, I would be using ultimate.
Daemonissa, Star rail will be Bianca team right?

Depends on the team
For dark itās lilith new Bianca and karenina
Oh yea right I forgot about Karina lol
For glow itās Bianca and Nanami it doesnāt have a full team yet so no content
I think I saw Empress use Bianca, Feral and Nanami for Glow.
But this could be a placeholder who knows...
@normal night Also question, what should i do with blue tickets after selector? Wait for another selector?
Crazy how a cope dps will do better than the actual dps
Oh ok cool.
Bianca isn't really even cope lol
As long as you have 15k, you can spend them outside the banner, but min 15k.
She's pretty great
True but in terms of the fact shes the affix of the parent
I need advice on how to build wata based on my account
Explore the 52 characters of Lumi from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Ill get vera eventually
In this patch
So Vera is gonna be your fire dps then?
Do i need nanami ss or higher btw? would it work with qte bots?
Probably as it will take a while till i get pyroath
SS is fine
You could just have him on 2Shake and 4 Alph and since you don't have his sig...If you do eventually grab it reso shake.
Ah yeah that might take a while as f2p, especially when i still need selena sig and with bianca veronica and liv...
also about that, so if my nanami have 6* then both qte bots run 4pc guin?
Yeah, I don't know if it will outdamage lee without sig but rn I don't think putting him on dv or anything would actually help.
Have the random 3rd be the dv holder.
Who should I get?
There's a new S-Rank choice pack and I don't know who to choose
I'm lacking the fire team, ice team, and dark team right now
Depends on your account, the two top picks are Wata and Qu.
Yeah vera will hravily outdamage both once i get her, should i reso damage or the one that increases shred?
I got neither of them. I could complete the ice team with Qu, but I'll also need Watanabe for Dante
Class skill I suppose, he will be ready for when you get Vera.
Class skill thats the one
You could cope with having Wanshi as your main ice dps and go Wata.
Thats the one that increases shred right?
It's the one which buffs the tank debuff passive yeah.
Hmmmm
What's the build for Lilith dps? Are these set of memories correct?
Yeah okay thx ill do the same on second acc cuz ill have 3s vera there so wata qte bot prob
Yeah, usually cottie bottom tho for extra attack
To be fair, I don't use the Ice team (I haven't even upgraded Wanshi) but other than Startrail, I also don't have any characters like Pyroath to pair with Wata
This is her main dps build yep, she wants ult as bottom resonance.
Id get herr to ss using either vouchers or ppc
Since you mentioned DMC, I presume you are saving for that and not pulling vera as well?
I'll save the choice pack for now and use it after the DMC collab so I'll know who to use
I am pulling Vera
I'm trying my best to get all yellow tickets
Since I'm 9 pulls away from her
Then yes, I'd suggest Wata and just using Wanshi as main ice dps, he will be better than nothing.
Would you go for qus sig as well if you got her?
Alright. I'll consider that
Hmm.. I don't know. I'm not planning for an Ice team yet.
That's another point for Wata in that case, he is cheaper to build.
Alright. Tysm for the help!
Np.
Yeah, he's not competing with that.
Even when she is on support, it still feels like he is playing catch up.
Still wonder whether veronica will kill scire or wata
Yeah ikr, newer units ig
I do like the approach tho that supports actually do damage and teams can rotate between members
Yep...and man if Karen dodges again.
I want a new dark tank...I love Kamui but plz.
Amp privileges.
Yeah shes second longest after liv rn
Yeah maybe hecan be fire tank, his personality fits fire aswell
They knew they had to make Veras Sig memo set ass cause she would just dominate the fire team.
Good thing amps liv so longš
I see what you did there
@normal night do you know about that?
Yeah, shame tbh, shed have even more longevity
Ehe
If Daren doesn't get replaced right after Bianca patch she will be longer serving than liv
Oh no...
I was okay with livs long life , but daren, this bish pissin me off now
Too expensive to be functional for f2p aswell
Buffs like Davinci and Guin don't stack so you'll have one on DV guin, most likely your amp so Feral, and CW or whoever you are using 2x einsteina with something else...my brain has just died...can't think of any other memo sets outside of 5* Gloria.

nanami, feral, vera. Person said that if i have 6* then i run 4pc guin instead of 4pc dv4
i'm not sure when you run 4pc guin
Oh also forgot to ask whether i should get wata to ss or save kulls for when i get vera, prob vera especially if i use as dps?
I need General help
You do after that thing b4š
What help
You can run 4 DV and 4 Guin on Feral when you unlock Harmony for sure since its about healing and amps heal. Then your Vera could run 2x Eins.
I have solo nanami with feral and lux as support
Lux -> 4 DV 2 eins
Feral -> 4 guin 2 sam
I actually forgot Sam existed..actual goober.
what would vera wear as 4pc then?
Should i even bother hypertuning wata?, im kinda short on resources
Me as usual being terrible with build crafting, Airreloads build actually is better.
hmmge
Since you are running double amp, it doesn't really matter who holds what.
ok, thank for help anyway
My bad dude sorry.
it's ok xD chill
Does anyone have a Watanabeless rotation with, say, Pyroath, Geiravor, Parhelion?
Prob doing more rots with bothš„²
Guys im confused
Altho would prob have to stick dlt on em
I have 281 achievements but the exam isnt unlocked
š?
2 Vera rot and 2 Pyro rot ig?
that might work
Yeah vera rots are slow below 3s so should take up time
how useable is the nihil team without ishmael? like if I just have geiravor + oblivion is it chill and I could fill the slot with a random tank or nah
If you have a good gen 3 tank youre fine
like epitaph?
yeah anything wata or newer
alr just wondering bc I wouldn't be able to get ishmael until there was a rerun banner or something if I wanted to go for that team
which one you should use exactly depends on your investment into them but any of wata/wanshi/nana is fine fpr coping as long as you have luna
I see
ig I actually could get nana instead of wata bc she would fit in to the lightning team anyways
just trying to figure out which characters to get from the two selectors from the blissful gift + thunderbolt research
well I think actually the "best" to get from them would be wata + nana but I'm thinking in terms of what teams it would allow me to go for, bc I could get wata and then use him with vera for a cope fire team and then get oblivion and use them for nihil as well, or just get pyroath and wata for full fire team, or something else idrk
Who did u get from the standard banner selector?
shukra
Nah im cooked using wata gave me less than ishh for fireš
Wasn't your Ish ss and he was base S?
Ic hmmm
Yep true
I lowkey regret it bc I could've gotten someone else but I got it at 20 pity and also you can make her full team for free so its' not the worst ig
Should i ss him or vera
Vera as she is gonna be your main dps.
Damn what do i do with wata...
Sad time to be wata rn/
I think this one is fine but the next one possibly being up to qu as well oof.
there's another one coming out?
We don't know for certain, CN got one during Bianca is all.
I see
Oh is it not confirmed?
oh ya bianca is gonna be new dark dps right? so lamia will be out?
Yup
Until we see Korea with it, that's the only time tbh.
Or Kuro says it themselves ofc.
rip I was kinda looking forward to maybe getting her, ig I still could but I also want bianca so it'll be useless
every when is the reset for the S selector on the regular ticket?
No-one knows, Ishmael was the first reset
I think the one a few months ago was the first time ever
ohhhh, i thought it is every patch
I saw somewhere someone say they might do it every year but we wont really know until they say they're doing another
Nah, that would be way too good.
that'd be pretty crazy
thank you
also,
who should i get for my S selector for my dante team?
nanami or watanabe?
Nanami startrail is gonna be better for your Ignition team and very good in other teams, wata for fire.
but which is the least investment needed?
Honestly both of them work really well at SS.
ok thank you so much guys
With the new selector what is better? ss3 qu or wata
Wata
Dante can build up Burn himself? 
Or is that not important
does anyone have any ideas for this btw?
From where?
Nana from Thunderbolt and Qu if you pull sig, else Wata
blissful gift + thunderous research selectors
Hmm
I alr have qu
Then Wata
I did hear that for Qu you really want her sig but I haven't tried pulling for it yet at all
It's fine now
Oh then sheās beyond cooked
You don't necessarily needs Shurka signature weapon for her to function
We have Lucid Dreamer now to assist Shurka in her downtime
At least only SS rank Shukra is needed for a proper damage
I forgot this is gen help
Why would that matters
yeah dw I'm not trying for meta or crazy max builds I started the game a week ago
meta
The community itself is already brainwashed towards meta
Less damage = entirely useless
You honestly do not even want to play Qukra sigless
Itās unenjoyable
I haven't really toucher her anyways bc I dont have an even copeful team for her
I just picked her from beginner banner bc she looked cool
Compared to solo dps Lucid Dreamer whenever they have to do Ice element content, Rotation play with 5* Lucid Dreamer and 5* Shukra is more bearable
How do you guys get 580k on Gwynplaine without Watanabe 
There is some yt vids out there that use Bridget instead.
Check Windbell
But he aint fun to get 580k...
yeah, he's a pain in the ass
Glacio can get 580k btw 
On that fat dude??
For epitaph 4x alphonse 2x Shakespeare or 4x alphonse 2x cottie which should I use? And resonances ?
https://youtu.be/5K81FB4so48
Always check dalaos runs before asking
Another way to do Gwynplaine without fire team. You really need that SSS Wanshi for -3s swap CD.
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so nana + wata is best, but is going oblivion if I want instead of nana ok or is it too cooked?
Depends on the team
Nana is used in 4 teams
Sigless? 4 DV 2 Ein
For general purposes when you have Geiravor that can work as a Dps in the fire team, when you use Epitaph on the field, 4 Piece Alphonse and 2 Piece Einsteina,
Gonna use him with pyraoth, Geiravor
That works too in that case
Yes no sig
4 Piece Heraclitus 2 Piece Cottie on Pyroath
4 Piece Alphonse 2 Piece Einsteina on Epitaph
4 Piece Davinci 2 Piece Guinevere on Geiravor
Thanks
I only know of the 3 she's on in the command but for those teams I'd need further characters to start using right? if not then it's a pretty easy choice tho
She can solo Igni if you skip DMC
She is the solo carry in Lightning
She is the Tank in future Light/Glow team
She can be used in place of Wata in Fire
Resonance for epitaph?
Class Passive
And don't forget about high invest nihil
What
Wait that's geiravor
well I wouldn't need her for fire team bc I'll have wata anyways but I see what you mean
meta in 4 teams, usable substitute in another 2 for cope teams
To be honest
If you have Oblivion and Startrail, you can technically use her as a Tank for any elemental team
Quite crazy
Upper reso is red orb right?
I don't think it would matter much by this point
But the optimal resonance is Red orb yes
You can get away with +ATK resonance if you're low on resources to be honest
Ok
Red is his main dmg skill
Do i need vera sig weap if she is ss3
I'd go for it if she is SS3.
who should I get from the blissful gift S rank frame choice? Iām thinking either epitaph or Qu shukra
I already have geiravor, star trail, and crimson weave
They are the two best options, if you intend on getting Qu's wep go for her as she doesn't feel great to play without it, if you are lower on currency, go for wata.
I donāt have enough to go for sig weapon unfortunately, is epitaph fine with just 5*?
Both of them are fine with 5* just wata feels better to play at that investment.
ah okay i see
does it matter that I donāt have a ice member yet? although I am going for wanshi so I will have someone soon
can wata function on pyro/vera team w/o sig?
ALSO does the next 100% selector go away after you get your target?
Yes, he can.
Yes.
Wait
NOOOOOO
Wanshi can be your main/sub dps for now while you wait for Qu or her replacement if it takes that long.
I WAS GONNA SWIPE 
Do you play him as a qte bot or actually rotate to him
After u get ur target the selector disappears until it resets
awesome, thank you! 
All of fire gets a rotation.
gotcha
He's fine if u don't have nanami or Ishmael with their sigs
Without wata sig, u either sacrifice his off field shred or 4p davinci passive
It's good if you can afford it
im saving cub for vergil's...
Well if you want Vergil Cub more than her cub then you can pass for now
What do you mean? I guess i need to know what his sig does LOL
No CUB is a must
No
Stop saying stuff you're not even sure with yourself
there are no free characters out now right? I can just summon for Vera?
His sig allows you to do 4 Alphonse 4 DV
Cubs are never a must, they are nice to have.
Also this is #šØć»general-help
No free character for now
Yeah I said No CUB is a must? I donāt think Iād say otherwise even in meta chat 
wait isn't blissful a free-
But it doesn't have new characters in it
But you can consider it as a free character I guess
Ah alright. I have him on 4 Alp and 2 Eins rn
not is good 2 characters with 2 piece (einsteina) in one team right?
Pardon me?
Correct, they don't stack.
ok then I'll have to go with the alternative build for Kaleido
2 Piece Guinevere is a good alternative
Or just put guin instead eins
Hi takashi ma goat
Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer
4x Liston
2x Einsteina
Ayla: Kaleido
4x Da Vinci
2x Guinevere
Qu: Shukra
4x Ji Bo'an
2x Chen Jiyuan
2x Chen Jiyuan (Harmony)
Hey.
which is better build for Watanabe?
Einsteina
2-Piece Set
QTE and 3-Ping skills reduce the target's corresponding Elemental Resistance by 15% for 8s. 10s cooldown.
Shakespeare
2-Piece Set
All ATK increases by 3% and Fire DMG increases by 7%.
Cuz im curious
with pyroath and geiravor in the team i'd use the alternative tank set
Both works perfectly fine
Shakespeare set is stronger than the Einsteina set because Shakespeare Fire resistance reduction is not limited to qte skills
But it requires 4 Piece Effects
Which would need Harmony upgrade to pair with 4 Piece Alphonse
Hii any idea what to use my blue tickets from i already got the Sstar selector or should i just save it or pull for a random s rank character?
You can save until you got 15k and then you can start pulling on it after you have excess
Does ss wata get a qte shr3d improvement?
Save for the next selector banner that comes out
They come back every once in a while
Well we don't know that yet for sure cause it's only reset once.
wata with no sig should have cottie right? Shakespeare wouldnāt have enough energy?
No only at ss3
Cott for dps wata
If he's not main dps he uses 4dv
ah okay, if I have 4davinci on vera then still cottie correct?
If you have davinci on Vera, you want 4 shakespeare and 2x Alph x2 Alph
ah interesting, not 4x Alphonse?
How do I trigger Selena's flower ult?
I canāt do harmony due to no sig
Ah k then ill keep him at s, hes just a qte bot for sss(soon) vera
Then 4 alph and 2 eins since shake won't do too much.
sounds good, thank you!
SS, you have to use her first ult then wait for the gauge to fill up, you can speed this up by holding basic with music notes and spamming the concerto orbs, hold dodge. When the gauge is full, the flower ultimate becomes available. Then it goes on a cooldown.
I just realized i shouldn't just follow the bot build - I need to have a clear plan for each character, like whether I'm getting their weapon or not
my Geiravor shouldāve had
4x hervor
2x cottie
and Watanabe shouldāve been the one holding the DV instead
my current build for Geiravor is
4x da vinci
2x guinevere
but this set only best if you have her 6 star weapon and it's harmonized
I can't just change their builds now though, since i already hypertuned them - and that cost a lot of resources lol
Isn't flower ult just hold dodge white orbs hold dodge
She could also hold Shakespeare too.
I forgot the hold dodge, edited.
Also at ss she can't flower ult twice in a row
U need the weaker longer ult in between
At ss3 she can flower more
And flower ult is like 3Ć the dmg
That's why ss3 selena goated
Btw @normal night is ur main acc in sea
oh youāre saying with 6* weapon vera shouldnāt hold davinci? that makes sense to me, I have her super minimal invested though and I plan to use her on ignition so itās kinda just simpler to make her hold davinci
