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It gives 20 pulls too I believe which isnāt bad
Should i pull one more Selena for SS3?
with what bc
this was exactly the issue tysm
Why i need Vera? I dont like her 

Is the leader vera now or is it still pyro? 2.322 fire invesst
pyro
you can do whatever you like then
Wait im goated
I was pulling that out of my ass
i havent even done those fancy openers before zamn
you absolutely are tysm
Oh wait this is general
vera dmg is Insane icl with double rot dash tec
Mb bro empy is gud
Advice?
magma
Youre in general help
you tell them the meta pick
If they say nah, you explain why
If they say nah again, you put em on ignore 
if they say nah once i doubt theyre gonna change their mind
Why ignore, just double down the Zaza 
had a couple cases of it happening
Idk i havent kept count

I should pull Vera only because of meta?
Yes her face is meta 
In this game itās very recommended to get every unit. If u really donāt want to just know it doesnāt feel as fun cause u have way less teams to clear with. But itās up to u
i mean its the help channel
We cant judge your personal opinion, so we can only say whats better from a neutral perspective
Vera is perfectly capable of doing fire solo, which is huge value for you in the early game
omg praised by dalao-senpai 
I skipped lee hyperreal and STILL donāt have him lmao turns out I didnāt need him anyway but that was lucky
Oh, okay. So after Selenaās cub Iāll get Vera
S0 Vera is enough?
daren skippers still in shambles
Lmaooo fr. I started during her banner and pulled her despite ppl saying to skip. Best decision tbh
useable. Definetly enough for your early stages
see i did it 

(Also yes i dont have a daren boo-hoo its the only meta unit i dont own)
Iām missing nanami star trail thatās it.
thats a pretty big miss then 
shame
I have the event box with her in it tho. The one thatās permanent
oooo goodie
you sure? I can and will judge anyone's personal opinion 
So Iāll get her from there
Right now I wanna max my wife Selena team. What I need for her? Echo with her sign and Solacetune with her sign?
just discovered stigmata and dooming that she isnt ery relevant rn
@proud jay yo, someone recommended me to save my pulls until I have enough for 2 chars of the same element that is not ice. Do you think this is a good idea? For context, I only have CW, Feral, and Startrail.
character is so cool 
its ok
walter is infinitely cooler
whats a good 3rd character with Wanshi and Selena?
and stronger
You mightve pinged the wrong dmc lmfao
and better
OH HAHAHAH
who is walter LOL
Echo is good once she has any 6* wep. Not neccessarily her sig
Do you have a old 6-star weapon selector?
yeah I wanted to send it to you @proud jay

Nah, I just started a few days ago, so I donāt have anything 
Did you start for DMC?
You get it for free thru some beginner missions
Dont gotta pull echo sig
bianca crepuscule
No, for WIFE Selena and her future wife gacha skin
OH THE NEW ONE
okay yeah we are on the same page then LOL
Iām a simple creature
bllleeeeehhh pass
Its simpler and more effective to just always pull on current-banner units (and skip dmc if you want to perform well, but i know most people wont do that)
okay then we are ABSOLUTELY on the same page 

may I ask why I should skip dmc? I've always wanted to skip them anyway so this is good news for me
why is bianca called walter tho? is this story stuff
it has layers of meaning
walter
white balter
white bianca alter
white bianca stigmata
holy
you have to be on like level 5 of pgr community lore to know tbf
thats insane LOL
Every modern S rank unit is always meta in atleast 2 teams, sometimes more (one element team, one affix team)
Dmc units cost about as much to gear up as any other unit, however they are only meta in one team each
That means they have a terrible value-per-price
once sync patches end, do we get the same rewards as CN server?
is publishing handled by the same company for all servers now? (i ask cause Black beacon has different publishers, and EN gets shafted, but we're on same schedule)
Yes
Yes
Publishing was always handled by kuro. This wont change
Well in theory this wont change
Who knows if kuro wants to be slightly more racist
Im not a messiah
i hope it's a two way street and we can be racist right back
wait no i dont hope that, no one be racist pls
Ah I see. To add to that, why do we even need so many teams in the first place? Iirc, it's 6 elements and 5 affinity, right?
And also, I heard the DMC units need some extra copies and their sig. weapon to work, is this true?
6 element and 6 effects
(7 really but we dont count one)
-
This is because of how the endgame here is structured. Elemental and affix weaknesses of enemies are EVERYTHING. Because if you try to fight an enemy with an element theyre not weak to, youre gonna get hit with a -70% damage penalty
-
Both of the twins need to be pulled atleast once and have their sig, to reaally be relevant in meta
-70%?!?! HOLY
it feels worse than 70 even
like in ppc (i think these were ppc numbers? Correct me magma)
The correct element does 1.3x damage
Wrong elements do 0.3x
can capri be used for cope phys team with piano?
wha
does capri even give phys buffs
I highly doubt it. Check her class skill
they are both phys and i dont have a lot of options and shes freeee
OH SHES DAARK
theyre probably wz numbers too
Aight bet bet, I'll try to plan my pulls to complete all the elements and affixes then. Thank you so much!!!!
if its wrong nobodys ever bothered to correct it
but we know many values from the game from the files so


if i huff enough copium
physical aint an element 

what does a pure phys amp like alisa have for the description actually
lol
woah
WAIT
whether or not phys is an element is very wishy washy
THIS WORKS THEN LMFAO
i think the official term for element is 'energy'?
Itll have to do until i get solace
and phys is not an energy
i mean you wont have crit rata, but yea amp buff is amp buff
only the ATK part of that buff will work if you use carpi in phy team
this is premium copium
Is there an in-game data bank feature where I can look all the released characters?
mhm!
it where you can try them out as well, excluding colab characters (might be wrong)
Top left on your profile in the main menu
And then therr should be a button called members in the bottom left?
Or you can do
Main Menu > Battle > Study > Celicas Class
oooh that's sick, thank you guys
you get minor minor rewards if you play out the character tutorial as well
How do I do the 6 star res skills
I also didn't know this existed lmao, always practicing from the banner
The memories attached to the characters need to have resonance on them
once you get all 12 slots filled youre done
Xav.
Rate is super low Lol.
ironic i got selena's weapon in 12
yes darling
Make it quick i wanna sleep
Weapon rate is extremely high
Character rate is extremely low. I get all my weapons first 10 pull lol
also on the members tab, they made it that you can't view the units' kit/description unless you own them -_- smh
Im a man. Anyway but does having āattack/critā on resonance not necessary? Is it fine with āHp/Attackā?!?
you can be a man and his darling

this part
yes. Very fine
Only physical characters can crit, so crit is an utterly useless stat on elemental characters
so long as its atk, doesnt matter if hp, def or crit
Its FINE
They cost the red looking card right
I only have one red card how do I get more
the amount of rnd tickets in the event guide im missing...
i couldve gotten vera lol
what element are seeshell and thorny supposed to be used for
how expensive is a gacha coating with bc again? 17.5k?
yup
17.5 with bg, 10.5 without
After getting my standard selector from pulling should I spend my standard tickets on characters or weps
We need more filler patches
well their rushing
We better get 2 back to back filler patches right after alla this. I haven't had any savings ever since ishmeals patch

lowkey would make dmc patch as a filler oop-
so it technically is 15k that u spend
since u get a few tickets
I skip dmc
yeah
i swear someone said you get about 5k in ticket back....Unless my minds doubling it
Yeah, u get 5k back
brave
i get cuz exclusive + to honor my homie who cant get it cuz his phone has no storage (64 gb) and his pc doesnt got storage as well (256 gb)
real
agh, my team sucks. i can barly make it passed wave 10 in awr zone.
pgr is in my hard drive
All yours 
Are you using the element the enemy is weak to?
yes.....and no. i don't have a full team so i basically just use lilith and jetavie with the element character
i seeee
Yeaa, dark team is in a bad state. Even the meta dark team struggles
You got a XXI?
i don't a lot of fire chars or good ones. so i use the new vera with lilith and jetvaie. same with the ice event but with qu
or tenebrion?
i got xxi
thats your third member in dark team
Is tenebrion SS better than xxi Sss
yes
also i'm aimming to have a fire team as well
if i get the free s rank chars, i will pick the guy who can work with dante and new vera
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alr, go get unc wanatabe
Lilith, xx 21, and jetavie. Thats the base dark cope team.... Not sure if ishmeal running as tank would be better not
Lilith ishmael Daybreak
Ish will run 4x soth 4x DV
You speedrun her first ult at the start (not the bite ult)
Then swap between jet and lili for the rest of the fight
2 or 3 ultimates Lilith
i'm so bad at doing xxl ult
run ishmael instead
Tysm
i still dont know how that one works ngl
But also, xxi does no damage nowadays. You shouldnt even be giving her field time
Tysm
Should I get watanabe epitaph from check event (blue ticket) or get another character (I plan on getting qu shukra from the other select character event)
follow dmc in agust's guide. better then mine
Qu shitra is mid as hell. dont get her
NOT wata waddahell
Need a look at your account to say who
I have alpha/lamia/ayla/lilith/alisa/vera geirsvor and some stuff that are not in the meta team
Also no.21 feral
But I donāt plan on switching out alpha in a battle, she can go on forever
.....
then atleast use nanami as an off-field support
Also nanami goes into way more teams than lightning
glow as well?
So donāt get any of these? (I do have Dante in mind)
Glow aswell
Lucia is peak fire dps, hanying is good for vergil,
Startrail is ur dante tank
nanami is an essential teammate of dante. He cannot function without her
Oh no bro
what is glow even about? š
and how does nana be the best tank for it?
You can
Lightning, plasma and glow are all one family
Plasma profits from lightning buffs
Lightning profits from plasma buffs
Ligh/plasma do NOT profit from glow buffs
HOWEVER glow profits from light/plasma buffs
could but it like a solid 4-10 hours or something
this is LOOONG yeh
I see, thanks.
I only have vera for fire team, and wanshi + ayla for ice, and only alisa for physical, so Iām weak in those teams
Donāt get happy it takes hours to do lol
more like days
Washi + ayla is enough for ice, dont get qu shitra.
Get epith for fire, and dante can be ur cope fire dps
Star trail for ur lightning team (which is free) and for dantes tank
WHAT
QU SLANDER
at least i know there is a crap ton of rewards at the end of the tunnel
True
I dont want a old heavy investment unit. Im already broke as hell š
So get watanabe from select pack and nanami for blue tickets yea?
yeah. thunderbolt for hanying if u wanna get virgils tank (in my opinion)
Hm?
I came back from a 291 day sleep, so I have a lot of characters that I donāt have
is it worth doing ultimate zone if I can't hit the 1.55m black card goal? I'm averaging about 1.5m
Thunderbolt reserch can let u get any character up to starrail. but it's 15k bc
Yeah. more rewards and skulls im pretty sure
I think I should save those BCs for dante
gooot it, just didn't know if the like 5 (15 on triple patch) bc loss was worth the extra scars
Correct me if Iām wrong
well, if u dont care about virgil then go ahead. but honestly, you get ss3 dante with just a single pull of him
-# and doing story
Is Piano 6* weapon? Mandatory?!? Iām a f2p
Well, no, but does improve gameplay a lot. U can still run SS + 5 star
Doing story?
Also donāt I need to get his cub and weapon too?
For dante
dmc will have their own story in pgr, letting u get a copy of dante for free
could get em. idk how much it impacts gameplay but u should get them
Also I almost forgot, should I get sub-dps & support set for vera or main dps, asking for hypertune material wise
Ah
I heard they were needed
ask in meta help
then get them
Done
Honestly, we shouldnt even need to say with dlt anymore. every new dps... hell every new frame requires it atp
meta but least meta units
Entirely fine to skip dmc
selena and lucia can both cover their stuff
I do get a free dante so why should I not use that
Well because its base S 5*
free copy without ss, sig or cub is notably always going to feel like ass
dmc is very much not f2p friendly
So Dante needs SS + sig + cub?
It is a collab so
youād get ss3 if you roll a copy but yes
Oh right true
no pgr collabs are different
Wait whatās the pity for cub
they range from either completely f2p friendly to greedy pos like this
20
dmc is one of the worst precedents the game has set
Is S cub fine?
Honestly as much as I like Dante Iām skipping. Iāll take my one copy to look at him.
yes but you also need to know that dante is not useful in a lot of modes
heās only usable in one element and you can just sub lucia/nanami
Hmm
if youāre going to roll smth roll others
Since when did alpha become sub-dps/support
Since nanami
Crazy
SS Nanami does more dmg than sss leaped alpha
new bianca also can just sub for alpha too
so alpha despite being free is now effectively dead
feral is used for bianca glow team
Ok nvm
CW still technically has umbrasurge

Tragic
I really liked alpha
Garbage unit istl
Donāt trash talk my favorite
trash
Yeah she is

š®

Nah she pretty cool, but defo prefer other units
for vera, whatās the difference between holding basic and 3p blue, vs just 3p blue x 2? isnāt the latter option faster?
was the co-op mode to farm 5 star weapons removed?
Fire team isogood early game hahaha
U get daily shards, you can find them in the inventory
Another coop thing is coming but idk what it is
Hi I'm newbie. do these choices actually matter, or can I pick freely? Are there any big decisions I should watch out for??
Donāt matter
fake choices, doesn't matter
Explore players and other data from the Punishing: Gray Raven outside of the game.
most just change 1-2 lines and that's it
Ahhh leaving my digital foot print in this goated game
Goodnight and thanks for the tips
is that you in pfp
blocked flashed me with this ugly fish muncher
cat hater identified, block used 
censor the c word please
we only censor m*les 
they evil and scary its normal
pak yu 
Pulling the skins with RC is more cost effective than pulling with the bc right
if you hab the rc for it, yes
Hey
Question
How many pain cage skulls do you get in advanced zone if you get top 5%
Thank you
Vs if you get like top 20% in ultimate
Say you do horrendous in ultimate zone and her only 120000 points
But you get max points in advanced
Which gives more skulls
https://grayravens.com/wiki/Phantom_Pain_Cage
math it out 
Guys do i spin for (pianosima i think thats her name) or should I just keep my tickets?
so... this weeks fire bonus for warzone... Fire dmg +50% for 23 sec when hp is below 40%... oh man how
Geiravor shilling
she converts hp in shield
1.5m ult > 1.1m adv (max rewards)
Whats the 2 passive skills i should max and equip?
i usually go for the 10% element dmg + the chara exclusive skill for the cub
Alright thanks
usually bottom 2
You mean the first two?
this game loves giving me 6* weapons off single pulls
I caved
Got both Vera and her wep
DMC is only one patch and I canāt wait 80 days to get her off standard
š
@viral axle just give into her
I was like if her wep comes early ima get and I got her wep in 16 pulls so I caved mad hard
Honestly love her play style I have no regrets
she looks sick too
And I donāt care much about DMC but also still have 30k bc left for Selena skin
Her playstyle is so fun lol so much slashing
looks good and plays good
Plays very smooth too
Itās all guide battleās fault
Letting me try Vera
Should I save my standard select for S Bianca?
Or use to SS3 pyroath
SS3 rank upgrade for Pyroath is pretty juicy
Likely
The value of the new Bianca is still vague with the results of Glow content
I think Iāll just save it
Iām 50 pity on standard rn
I can score 5.5 mil in plasma rn I think thatās pretty good for now
Just find out biancas ss3 is a huge upgrade like selenas
Idk who i should get ss3
Im skipping dmc though
rule of thumb is if youre playing meta to always go for the new units as they tend to shelf old ones
Yeah by A LOT
whyā¦
i wouldnt skip vergil
ultima blade teams he seems to be the preferred
plus if you get him once, you get a free copy two times
so one pull is instant SS
jusy get one vergil copy thats minimum
does ss vergil beat sss+ bianca in ultima slash
I never really played any of the games so have no like interest or nostalgia for them, and also they aren't the best besides affix zones which idc abt
erm
What it's a legitimate question lol
it shows whats needed/prefered with bianca
Youll need SS3 solace if you keep bianca
you donāt care about affix? damn what my boy affix do to you
my account is sss so thats not an issue
oh then you should be fine then
just trying to figure out where the collab units slot in because im not super keen on invested in them just for one affix
Oh I think thats all they slot for LOL
Well tbh rn the teams just dont feel that fun and also im not always in hero
But yeah im getting neither of them so ill can get an extra bianca
if you got s+ bianca whats the point of vergil
lets be honest
im just going by what the info says
if anything we jsut gotta wait till he comes out and see what happens
Or selena but tbh i dont enjoy selena so might not bother, as long as i have a phys team that can get above 1-2mil idc much
affix will hella matter
playing for fun is how you play longer, good shi
fk selena I donāt like her gameplay AT ALL
its clunky and weird
Ik it does but i still get most rewards, im not gon rush with affix teams, they'll replace dmc like a year later anyway
Ewwww dark warzone again
ew vera simp who doesnāt bark on entry
I still have some dignity 
doesnāt exist when its Vera icl
Fair enough
Alright
Yeah, tbh i like balancing both, meta enough to get most rewards and not be the worst of all and get most(if not all) new units. Atleast 1 copy but if like them then maybe ss3, or sss if i REALLY like them
IKR
Istg its been 3 times in a row
Yup
Tbh its good for my accounts as dark is my most stable team on both accounts (solo lilith
)
Also, for ultimate ppc reward more than advanced, I need to score at least 1.5m right?
am I reading this right? I deal more damage and enemies take more damage?
And if I wait till round 3 of selector to complete the weeklies, will I be able to do tasks of round 2 and 3, or do I need to complete round 2 to do round 3?
probably means allies instead of enemies
red is debuff iirc
new player here what should i do?
U can do both prob but i dont think it matters cuz after u do 1 and 2 u have 12/15 for selector so only need 3 more
S-rank selector is right, Startrail is priority
A-rank selector priority is nĀŗ 21: XXI
Yeah, I'm just trying to get this one as soon as possible
ty
Nop
Imma wait till 07/09 to see what it is
Fair
wat should i be focusing on as lvl 11?
Join a sensei in guide page and join a guild, it'll help you lvl up faster and unlock rewards
Like how you even fight that you just die
Its stronger than Watanabe shield?
Guys, for the selector, Should i take wata (no sig) to complete my fire team (Lucia sig, vera no sig) or should i take qu (no sig) to complete my ice team (wanshi sig, ayla no sig)
You just die
Yeah idk I guess I have no choice but to tally on account of boss with unblocked unavoidable insta kill hax
Oh gosh, ss is not a problem because of ppc but i don't think i will attempt to get her sig. I'm planning to save for Bianca.
Fair id just cope with wanshi tbh
Wanshi solo with Ayla and another QTE bot 
Though i could probably get her signature if i exchange some signatures (wanshi lucid, rosetta, and alpha cw). Should I?
Yep
Alright, thanks for the information
Liv pls save usšāØļø
NOOOO
Yeah, u can also reso him for class skill i think,so he shreds more rather than for damage, as pyroath and vera both do much more
Noted š«”
Thanks guys.
Oh wait, one more question. Should i build vera with da vinci or her signature memories? She's ss and no sig weapon
Da vinci, especially if you have pyroath
Her sig mems are mainly for dps build and weapon is needed for hugher damage
Alright. Thanks again.
And I'm still wondering wtf I put in 3rd slot of fire team
I'm using Vera as DPS, no matter what
Daybreak

I LOVE that.
Sorry
I need to stop barking
Probably ish? Idk
Or liv
now that you say
Highest scoring clears in warzone and pain cage have Geiravor in the place of Lamia in dark teams, so indeed a 2nd amplifier can do
is there a channel to find instructors 
The guide page in bottom left corner
on discord?
No, in the game main menu
im asking about discord
No idea
Yeah how does that work, i was told amps only buff their element but istg it aint true
It was true
Hii
So im planning on building Dante team,
should i get nanami or watanabe?
Nanami
nanami better than watanabe?
Yup, Nanami is best ignition applier atm, which Dante needs to do dmg
should i also get her weapon?
No need, her weapon is just dmg
S rank is also good for her or do i need to atleast SS her?
Its still true, but it also gives 20% atk and memory bonuses, so ig its better than nothing 
How long is the dmc collab gonna be?
Oh, because of affixes! If Vera has darkflow stacks ongoing, then she buffs dark dmg instead of fire
How 20% atk
THATS IT
However there isnt a single ignition based amplifier to buff aside of Vera
Its in the class skill of every gen 3 amplifier
I forgot abt affix elements
Which is why i saw someone use cw in dark wz cuz of darkflow
Exactly so it does buff just by being amp
Is it right to say: "Uncle without sig, is like burger without meat"?
https://huaxu.app/na/players/24988659/characters what do i do for dark team
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On field or not?
No
He still able to do his job without his signature weapon as a fire tank
Just overall lower damage
If you want to put it that way
A burger without a pickle
For now off field
If I buy the monthly pass 3 times does it give me plus 30 levels?
I doubled my wz score compared to empy using dps Vera
Vera is def a sub DPs on the fire team rn
On ignition sheās def gonna run da Vinci and guin
Just use 200 black cards on serum Iām Cook, Reroll?
Do not use bc on serum, but if your account is super new like day one thereās no reason not to reroll to just get some characters to kick start your account
I mean, yeah, Empyrea even required to double rotation Watanabe just so you can charge her ult 
Just use to speed run and build Piano but starting to regret IT LMAO
( 1 day account btw. )
Never use serum, but if you got lucky on Pianissimo then just keep the account
200 bc isnāt that bad
Its ok
Doesnt hurt in the long run, and game gives a lot of serum anwyays
Newcomer legit gets 10k serum
Use all em
For Piano
On simulator.
Bad luck in resonance RNG 
You want to reroll for 200 bc on serum? what the fck
This reroll culture is certainly something
Why would you use bc on serum second why would you reroll because of it
If the reasoning is "I wasted 200 bc"
From the selector?
just to note
Oh you're new
Ish is the best choice honestly
Yeah
i have luna's sig weapon.
Also since you have the Oblivion sig I assume you have her
Unless you offrated it and don't actually have her
no i do not
random free pull 1
and got luna's sig.
so yeah.
from dorms should I get alisia or wanshin first? I have no physical or ice elements currently
Why did u level it up
should i get luna.
mistake more so was drunk while playing pgr
uh, I mean with Sig she's not bad but she's not good anymore either
lesson: never play pgr drunk
She's the definition of average tbh, I guess you can use her to brute force for now but I won't say she's a good pull
friend said shes still for being the only nihil
Nihil content is not that important
ishmael is also nihil
is ish really that goated?
Not really
Ish is just a very good character for beginners cuz of her passive, but ish as a character is average, nihil is average in general lol
im like middle late game
I overthink sometime ( a 1 day account btw )
anybody got suggestions for this? Iām thinking lucid dreamer since he is newer
i just went for wanshi first and got alisia
Wanshi is priority
Wanshi 100%
Not only he's newer, his SS is the biggest upgrade among the dorm units
okay great thank you guys 
anyways who do i pull.
Spotlight new unit is priority, unless you are missing only one for a functional team

Is basic better on pyraoth or atk top
just put any atk
stroll up
scroll up*
go get luna, shes good for all team
@sage stump 
You should buy everything
Who do you already have?
Lucia
Then yeah, Startrail easily
i also have the thunder bolt
Thunderbolt has her so probably not her
He can use thunderbolt to get Lucia or Hanying
True
do even need lucia rn cause i know dante is like a good
WWHERE IS THAT COATING
and unique
which
Crimson Weave coating isn't here anymore
anyone got a list of packs available during DMC collab patch?
Cope option is Ardeo, however she stacks little ignition compared to Startrail
Does anyone know if I'm able to get my progress back if it's lost? I tried logging in cuz I've been gone for a while but it seems I've reset to lvl 1
I plan on it, just takes a while for those dorm points to build up
funny
You sure you havent chosen wrong server?
Yep tried all of them
Bro's using the wrong Gmail
Weirdge
should i juice my team up? I dont wanna spend mats when its not needed
Oh great heavens
just be skilled
Nah dw despite the higher lvls, early chapters are easy
@formal umbra see thats what I thought too so I tried all of my emails and servers for each one and I still haven't found my account
okay
Wat da fak
@proven hamlet so i gotta go nanami?
Hardest I've ever had experienced in story was The Surviving Lucem in an infinite protect Lee mission with a lot of RNG on goddamned Plume
itd be a waste for my luna sig
Yeah, considering your roster and Dante, she's the best choice
Why I have a feeling Physical team is the hardest team to build?
Yep, Geiravor is the best 3rd slot for Dante team
i gota geravor (forced to used 1 pull)
What is this luck dude
So sak
To build? I donāt think so, but Alisa Echo is extra important bcs of the CR buff
In that case, you can use the thunderbolt to get Hanying (Vergil needs her)
Well, I feel like that because Hanying is so hard to get 
And all of them need sigs to work
Trueslash is kinda f'd without SS3 Hanying
Not really
Vergil with SS0 rank Solacetune can function properly already for trueslash content
Yeah but damn is the difference kinda vile
SS3 rank Solacetune is required
Is an old new
My Hanying and Alisa still sigless, and I think Glacio Selena is so strong for multiple contents
It's not
I've been lied to then huge
Where did you even get that
im guessing i should get epitaph from blissful gift
From everyone a month ago
decent for beginners
absolute useless fraud by lategame
When none of those "everyone" has actually played Vergil?
I mean Vergil was out in CN by that time
You know how much BC we can get in the Collab patch
Up to you, because Startrail has ignition, she can shred fire defense too, just not as good as Epitaph
Like can you believe this https://youtu.be/5K81FB4so48
Another way to do Gwynplaine without fire team. You really need that SSS Wanshi for -3s swap CD.
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Alright gonna try the good ol uninstalling and reinstalling trick. Wish me luck everyone šš¼
Plus people were testing it so I kinda believed em
Its not necessary
but ss3 hanying is still a damn big dps difference for vergil
its only dmg loss now unlike ts balter
Oh yes how is the Vergil and Dante Gameplay?
but it is still a significant amount of dmg loss
no from this event it only has epitaph
The difference between now and back then is that SS3 Solacetune is "required" to make ultima slash function in the first place
But with Vergil now, it is no longer "required" to make ultima slash team to function
It has Qu Shukra too
dante is the worst designed kit to play in pgr 
Wild
not really needing ice rn though
Ayo
More reason to skip ā
You would still perform decently with SS0 rank Vergil Ultima Slash team compared to the previous Ultima slash team with stigmata that is literally scoring so insignificant
Well there's not much places you can get Qukra for free
And you'll get a selector with Epitaph later
Ice team is also the most fun team no bias I swear
i just solo hanying for ultima
How is it?
Certain skills are annoying to cast?
Have you tried new Fire
fck ed
Ult moves him forward into invisible borders of the stage
while forcing the camera to not be able to turn around
This time full bias

and dante moves a LOT
like cw alpha levels of jumping around
so imagine that fun moment when the ult camera decides to face the wall
Ah yes using Dante in Siege will be š„
Except Qu
and you canāt see for sh*t
Accurate DMC camera 
Fraudra my despised
Can you tell us how much BC we can get in the Collab patch aetherlao
Oh
Unnecessary dash
I can tell how bad that is
What happened to the #1 Qu hater anyways
Sounds to me someone just likes to hear katsura
dante anims canāt be cancelled or repositioned btw
Nah just Wanshi propaganda
A meta friend compared him to sophia in clunkiness 
What the fu
how many Virgil I'll have to pull to Sss+ him ?
Holy mackerel
Sophia in the big 25
š„ š„ š„
Ya know I'm fine with this
hmmm.
9 copies
A lot
You don't have epitaph?
not worth it
if youāre here to ask about dmc the general answer will be please donāt dump everything into them
that seems impossible, anyways thanks
When you are a whale
Exactly
Just bad investment 
Anyways Tatyana frame when 
Bro's asking the real questions
I mean you could just use that money to buy DMC5 
They cooked with her design bro, her hair and face are pretty as hell
Maybe when they complete her story in awakening tundra
She's also a badass
But what if I have them all already 
asking whom should i pull.
Cheaper too 
Huaxu?
Its the basic banner selector? Startrail
basic.
and what about the thunder bolt selector.
Hanying I guess
Either Pyroath or Hanying. Maybe Hanying is better because you are going to pull for Vergil
and for the other free s rankaswell
Since you should have Selena and Alisa is free
Also that
which selena
Pianissimo
Pianissimo
By the time this patch ends you'll have enough to get Selena
He'll pull for collab tho
If he aims to have full geared SS twins of Sparda he'll need likely 46k
Dante is free and Vergil is pretty much free cause you can always get every S rank
See now that changes things
Selena skipping hurts my soul but if it must be done
i mainly wanna do vergil.
wonder if my luck can pull through
rn since i have 4 10 pulls
You gonna say fck it we ball?
Norman should help you get the other two tens
hmm.
And Clash gives only gold tickets specifically
PULL FATE!!!

@formal umbra ill try doing norman in vc rn
You can also grind the roguelike modes if you have time, they give a bunch of yellow tickets
You probably won't be able to complete Norman fully with your units but if memory serves you get like 1200 from just one run minus the final stage
And since there's this one and 2 others left this patch it's around 3600
This isn't including Clash
I need an advice regarding my account. I am a returnee so basically i stopped playing since bianca stigmata patch so i have only her at ss3 + weapon as viable character + crimson weave and feral from the event. My goal is to build multiple teams as many as possible even if it is weak for now but can work i am ok. I just want to get my rewards from the events and stages. It is not worth to build meta team and just when warzone drops stage for other element team the result is wasting resources right?!. so for what i am planning to do, first of all i will have this patch s rank ticket but unfortunately it only offers s characters until shukra. so i guess the best option from there is epitaph + geiravor + free dante from next patch and this sets my fire team. There is an event that allow me to target 100% rate s character so getting startrail from there sets up my light team since i have feral + weave crimson so with this i will only have one selector from thunder bolt research event so i am planning to get hanying since i have stigmata + echo from dorm this sets physical team. the only main elements left are dark, ice + nihil. for dark i am planning to pull for next dark bainca so for now i am playing with jetavie + selene + No.21.
for ice i will get the two characters from the dorm so when i have an available selector i will get shukra and this sets ice. but only nihil i can't afford to build for now. so to wrap things up the teams available to me after reaching dmc patch.
startrail + weave crimson + feral (light)
stigmata + hayning + echo (physical)
dante + epitaph + geiravor (fire)
jetavie + selene + No.21 (dark)
lucid dreamer + ayla + shukra (ice) hopefully getting an s selector in dmc patch for shukra.
for effect teams:
physical team works for ultima slash
geivor + crimson for dark flow
startrail + dante + geivor for ignition.
so hopefully after dmc patch i will only lack nihil , glaciation and plasma teams.
What do you think guys? any helpful ideas? or if there's any flaws don't hesitate to point it out.
sorry for the long message guys
I just want your opinion if possible
any guide or tips for cursed waves for beginners?
Check pins
Anyone know how to find someone with the "PGR customer support" role?
First, for dark you want Daemonissa
She's free, and the DPS of the team (until Bianca arrives)
yeah i forgot her thanks for pointing that out. i will definitely use her when i get her
Second, Dante is a terrible fire DPS (but good ignition DPS), if you dont intend to acquire Lucia Pyroath soon, use Geiravor as fire DPS
Should I SS3 pyraoth or save standard pick for new Bianca?
Bro my tenants are thinking about a bed, I already crafted one Bed. Why aren't they still happy
The thing is i don't have resources to get her 
So i guess dante is usable at least as subdps for geivravor?
I suppose yes, probably he'd work there as QTE bot while you swap between Geiravor and Epitaph
great as a free character i won't complain 
Though a 2nd amplifier would be better, I suppose
Daemonissa can fit, even if she cant buff completely
Empyrea also works, but she's almost impossible to get at this point
Liv my goat your new frame will be glorious
But isn't building dante good for ignition?
yes pretty much impossible
Yeah, but we are talking about fire team, aren't we?
you need to click and drag them to bed, they are too lazy to move on their own 
Dante is the best ignition damage dealer
yes I am just thinking if i need to build him properly or just use him as bot
For fire, as a bot, for ignition, you need to build him properly
Got it
Any other suggestions/ points to notice ?
when i started, i refered to the bot team list and build up from there
hey guys, i need help, iām level 100 and i just released this team is kinda weak and i would like to ask u for help to improve this team :))
I guess if i am using geiravor as dps wouldn't her weapon and cup necessary?
If you want her to compete with Lucia, yeah, but she doesnt really need it
is teddy any good?
Very easy way to improve this team would be to SS both Nanami and Feral through Pain cage.
yes i am using it as reference for what i am planning too. but my goal is to build multiple teams over one meta team
thatās all?
Pretty much, Nanami does more damage than 5 Alphas
change feral memo into 4 davinci 2guin
Thanks a lot
okay okay
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/18241866/characters
With this account can I use the free selector thing on the blissful gift for vera garnet? I wanna sss her
Explore the 57 characters of Yui from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
also if possible, SS nanami asap
Pretty much, also put Nanami on 4 herschell and 4 Heisen through Harmony and let her main dps at SS. Feral should be on the 4dv and 2 Guin.
okayy
dont forget to leap cw
Leap doesn't do anything for Lightning content so not important.
Damn
I was about to just send the bot team earlier and say nothing, but I didnāt bother - felt like sending it without replying would be kinda disrespectful, especially after his long message lol
personally, as a f2p, what i did was pull all the main dps of each team in the list. and then added luna oblivion (her passive is useful for some zaza teams) to my list. wont be competitive, but at least you do some decent scores in some content. as time goes by, slowly build all the teams
Does
U got the edb to the ult
And orb convert
@normal night u there?
and also which team is better? lucya pyroath, watanabe epitaph and the new vera or instead vera lilith??
the blue orb convert really important tho
besides that, always pull the newest chara since they powercreep previous ones
I am here.
Vera. She's irreplaceable in fire team
okay thank you
@normal night ( finally right? After so the 16th re rolling? ) waste 20k serum and 200 black cards for serum.
What do you mean by zaza teams?
It's a nice to have but I wouldn't say its a must. @little musk @iron mason
Unless you are doing the task for Thunderbolt, I'd leave it for now. The energy for ult is more important than the orb too.
Oblivion has the ability of converting any elemental damage into a general element, so she can allow amplifiers and tanks of different elements work together
Can't believe Thunderbolt forced me to use CW š
Real, wasted resources in awakening her ultimate
At least now I can use her weapon as reso fodder
If it made me get her to SS I was gonna crashout
She looks good, is that core passive on the bottom reso slot?
Yes
Yea itās core.
sss+ cw best omni. wdym 
Then she is sorted, just work on SS
So after the 16th time im good?@normal night

Just gotta make sure cause Class skill looks exactly the same.
You got it homie.

When Nero wasnt a deadweight
I agreed
If u not wanna invest cw she qte bot or out of the team
But if want its must
Sss0 unleaped is to slow on 2nd ult to fit 2 ult under 10s
And also feral to week how cover the remain 5s
But 3 ult cw impossble without leap under 15s
For ppc is it better if i run a SSS Garnet with my nanami instead of a SSS3 Alpha
I get what you are saying, they eventually will Leap her anyways if they are completing Thunderbolt.
Takashi
Yes Shin?
What element will the new Bianca be?
Dark/Glow
We donāt know her team yet?
It's exactly the same as Lamia team, Lamia is just kicked to the curb.
At least Daemonissa is free
fish getting bbq
The imortal karen 
Lamia became sushi

fish asam pedas
Is fire amp Vera going to be on the blue ticket s rank selector next patch?
One of my favorite
yes
Next patch Selena is gonna be in there first.
ty
Oh yeah, end of Synchronization
the dmc collab banner is gonn have a pity system right? is it gonna start from 0 or where i picked off from the vera banner?
Just for the DMC collab, we might have 1 last synch patch to catch us up.
They have their own separate banner, so it doesnt carry from event banner
i guess that's a good thing, will save the yellow tickets for the new char after dmc
This chat has a different vibes now that vera has a new frame
they look so similar I thought dante was fighting himself
I guess we doin singles now
leave me alone
they all looked the same in the older games

except the reboot (dead middle child)
The reboot was...ok...I suppose...
I actually didnt hate his look
I like the "stance" switching but that's pretty much it.
I wonder if dmc5 is still on sale
Just realized I have no good physical construct, any recommendation?
Selena is the strongest Phys dps construct right now and she is 100% rate up due to debut.
wait for our lord and savior
Rip I just pulled for Vera lol, I might have to go with Vergil path
We still get 12k from weeklies alone
He can phys zone but it won't be as good as Selena.
For the rest of this patch
Well, if only DMC shards are available on PPC shop
they arenāt
And you can't use the normal gold tickets for DMC so
understatement
You could try to get Selena with those 
Otherwise your Phys team is cooked, beyond cooked
Fair enough
how much BC would it cost to SS Dante and SS Vergil?
pulling both once each
10,500 for Vergil and 10500 you'll get SS3 Dante since 1 copy is free.
Yeah I'm cooked cause my strongest physical is crimson abyss
their banner is discounted so its 21k
get selena please for the love of the game sheās really the worst thing to skip rn
Get Selena I beg of you
At this point just use Hanying as physical DPS
Please get Selena 
Yeah I don't have one
Oh my god it's worse than I thought
Welp, physical is beyond cooked
no joke dmc is a scam 
Trueslash is cooked too š
But I just pulled for Vera with pity
Yeah...unfortunately Selena might be your best option over the DMC collab unless you are a HUGE DMC fan.
trueass
Do you WANT another Nier situation
I'm cooked
Invincible

