📨・general-help

[minor sable]

So should I cop her or hold out

[rustic stag]

For Nanaknight, do I have to only activate her ignition mode to get the fire shred, or do I also need to use her ignition ult?

[minor sable]

Not like I have any tickets but yk

[magic jolt]

Hold out

[south dragon]

You only have to build up stacks

[urban sinew]

clearing the lowest difficulty didn't really help

[south dragon]

So only hold ba for mark

[urban sinew]

considering I already cleared Haywire or idk

[ebon stone]

Yellow

[magic jolt]

Gotta get up to level 20

Scroll down for some extra powerups for the enemy

[rustic stag]

Hold BA and then switch out right?

[south dragon]

yes

[rustic stag]

Got it, ty

[south dragon]

Like Lilith

[ebon stone]

Hold yellow

[frigid gazelle]

whats hangyings rot for ss?

[gleaming cave]

F that's enough I quit

[frigid gazelle]

10 more u got this

[gleaming cave]

No f way

I am done with this

[gritty shore]

10 more for sss?

[gleaming cave]

Lmao first pull

I didn't unlock her yet

[frigid gazelle]

why didnt u pull on the 60 pity

[gleaming cave]

Idk 😐 I am crazy

[south dragon]

You just bricked yourself

[gleaming cave]

The real question is why I am still playing this

[south dragon]

idk

You can quit anytime, unless you have gun pointed at you

[gleaming cave]

So badly and it's not my first time

[south dragon]

BRO WHYYYYY

Maybe gachas aren't for you man

[gleaming cave]

Well I am not lucky 😞

I love gachas

[south dragon]

It's not even about luck you intentionally chose scam banner

It has fixed pity at 60 pulls

[gleaming cave]

Well it's fate 50 50? Isn't it

[south dragon]

idk what made you pull on fate

[south dragon]

They're both 100%

There's no 50/50 in pgr

[gleaming cave]

Plus I did this previous version to my self , I was a newbie

[south dragon]

Just read omg

[brisk adder]

my discord🥀 💔

[gleaming cave]

Nah I mean it's 50 percent chance to pull her in any pull from 1-80 and 80% from 80-99 100% in 100 pulls in fate

[south dragon]

idk, it's completely random

[gritty shore]

it's 1.5% per pull in fate vs 0.5% per pull in normal themed

and it doesnt go up

[ebon stone]

Dmnn u really are brickistan

[gleaming cave]

I didn't know that. U tell me there is a 0.5% to pull the character in normal themed below 60 pulls ?
I mean I thought there is no chance to get a character from normal unless you complete a full round (60 pulls)

[gleaming cave]

🥲🥲🥲

[gritty shore]

yeah

omega whales pull fate since they're going for SSS+ not base char or SS3 or smth, but then they push their luck or get punished for gambling

pulling base character on fate is gambling on steroids

[minor sable]

Does the replacement have cool anims?

[gleaming cave]

I am still confused 🤔 can we get a character in normal banner below 60 pulls?

[minor sable]

I like flashy animations

[vapid mist]

As a f2p is SS enough?

[gleaming cave]

Well it is much a headache

[gritty shore]

u have 0.5% to get it below pity on normal themed; fate themed below pity is 1.5%

[south dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7XXNUERHNk

[gleaming cave]

Dang no more fate gambling

[minor sable]

3 seconds into the video ion like her

[ebon stone]

Ss is basic human rights

[vapid mist]

Oh

[south dragon]

Ss + sig is basic human rights

[minor sable]

Man that character doesn't please me

Why she so graceful

You fighting with your life on the line here 💔

You should either be scared confident psycho happy or war hungry ngl

[south dragon]

I mean, this how she is in story

[ebon stone]

This is her btw

[south dragon]

She was a musician

[stable sable]

still would

[south dragon]

Oh nah

[frigid oyster]

penissimo ❤️

[lusty cloud]

Is there a like official main/extra/side story order so I can like get the full experience. I know that there are some side stories listed at the bottom of chapters, starting after chapter 9, but what about outside of that

[south dragon]

poopnissimo

[frigid oyster]

i forgot u a selena hater

[south dragon]

Once a hater always a hater

Thank Crapiccio for that

[surreal summit]

There was that story order png that got posted a while back in old gph... anyone got that?

[frigid oyster]

ok fair enough actually

[lusty cloud]

I think meta help is the old GHP channel still but I may be wrong

If not maybe they archived it?

[south dragon]

I mean, you could go ask in #🎲・glb-lore

[surreal summit]

https://x.com/ascnets/status/1926784198003605802

۟ (@ascnets)

Extensive (it would be more if i wasn’t limited to 4 slides) PGR Reading Order

For things like Alternative Interpretation: RDF & DFM, they should be read as you play. RDF can be skipped tbf

#punishinggrayraven

X · May 25, 2025, 11:35 PM

[lusty cloud]

Thanks

[surreal summit]

Found it

[lusty cloud]

What about side stories? Or does it not really matter

[sturdy crown]

How many bcs we are getting till collab

[sturdy crown]

➰

🪑

[lusty cloud]

That is absurd

Wild even, maybe even borderline too far

[old hull]

Rabbit hole is a garbage ending and so is the route to get it

[surreal summit]

The image includes side story and event records order too I believe

[lusty cloud]

Well side stories as in like character stories

But I can just follow the in game guide for that

[surreal summit]

Oh you mean the interludes?

[sturdy crown]

Do my built up pities goes 0 after DMC collab

[south dragon]

DMC has it's own banner, so no

[sturdy crown]

Kuro we HAVE TO talk NOW

[surreal summit]

Collabs have all been like that, and btw banner is bc only since collabs have their own special tickets

[sturdy crown]

how many bcs we will get till Collab? I have 10k currently saved up for daddies

[tired nexus]

How screwed am I

[south dragon]

Burnt

What happened?

[tall sentinel]

💳

[gritty shore]

pump those numbers

[sturdy crown]

Is nanami op or what why is she does more dmg without sig than pyroath with sig

[placid tiger]

do coatings change voicelines?

[south dragon]

You're prob using your pyroath wrong

Team composition also matters a lot

[minor sable]

Who put me on to Lilith bro

AHALKWJANSKWKES THIS CHARACTER IS EVERYTHING

Expressive sassy and funny

[sturdy crown]

Why pro licked keyboard mid texting

[minor sable]

I didn't lock the keyboard

Lick

Also I'm assuming I buy Lilith shards

[south dragon]

Use vouchers for her shards

[minor sable]

Oh who should I get then

Lamia?

[surreal summit]

Save the skulls for now

[south dragon]

Lamia is getting replaced the patch after dmc

[surreal summit]

Lamia is getting benched pretty soon unfortunately

Kusogames and their stupid phuking character release schedule

Powercreeping feesh before daren, so stupid

[south dragon]

Idc tbh

Just get lamia out of the team

[minor sable]

I like lamia 💔

But i LOVE lilith

[south dragon]

If I had a gun pointed to my head with a task to play solo lamia again, I would've asked for that bullet

[surreal summit]

Solo lamia is hardly the worst solo out there

Just completely braindead

[minor sable]

What's so bad about lamia

[south dragon]

idc I hate it

[surreal summit]

At least it's also doable with only 5* too

5* solo qu, eugh

[minor sable]

So is XXI still relevant in my team

[surreal summit]

Yeah

[digital quest]

is this the new gameplay help after it got morphed 3 times?

[south dragon]

A rank or S rank?

[minor sable]

Sss

[south dragon]

yes

[minor sable]

Ss*

Alr

[distant girder]

Hi, i have a question. I quit PGR at the beginning of 2023. Is it worth to continue with my old account (for sure there is alpha, bianca veritas, kamui tenebrion, camu, and rosetta), or just start a new account?

[brisk adder]

start over for sure

[vast robin]

Help i dont understand this stage

I collected the data from all the npcs i saw

And still nothing

[gritty shore]

talk to computer -> collect data -> talk again then u'll be able to brute force everything with fighting

[vast robin]

I already did all that

[gritty shore]

u need to switch to different data sets on computer

like 5-6 times total

[vast robin]

It only allowed me to switch at the start

Once

[patent radish]

How do u get lilith ult immediately upon swap in after 2 pings? for me it takes 2 pings and some basics

[craggy bane]

When is the next oatch coming?

[craggy bane]

Do u have cottie?

[patent radish]

oui

wait i have no harmony ig thats prob it

[spiral walrus]

How do I unlock phantom pain cage stages? I have only two bosses unlocked how do I unlock the other 4?

[craggy bane]

If u just started its normal, when u start going through ranks the third stage will onlock

And afaic theres no 6 bosses, only 3 each week

[spiral walrus]

Yeah I am new, I just wanna know how long will it take because I don't wanna miss out on the weekly BC. Like is it from story or just normal lvl up will do? Wdym by ranks

[gritty shore]

Iirc u need like 6 or 8 chapters done and be like 60lvl

[craggy bane]

Thats to jnlock it right?

[gritty shore]

To unlock third boss, then get lvl 80 for advanced ppc, score 1m here to unlock ultimate ppc

[craggy bane]

Because in order to unlock the third stage u just need to wait because on the next week or weeks u will get the third ublocked

At least thats how it was with me 1 mknth ago

[spiral walrus]

So basically you're saying it's impossible for me to get to stage 6 in a short time?

[gritty shore]

Stage 6?

[craggy bane]

We are talking about ppc right?

In ppc theres no stage 6, there are 2 or 3 bosses with 3 stages each boss

[gritty shore]

Can u screen shot context

[wide cedar]

Do I have any good characters

[viscid pollen]

Hmmm

[craggy bane]

I would say wanshi and feral

Dont know about the others ngl

[gritty shore]

Xxi is good budget dark tank when sss

[craggy bane]

Isnt tenebrion still better as a darl tank?

[gritty shore]

Without investment? Doubt

[spiral walrus]

When i click it takes me here but there is only a 3rd slot so i assume there is another screen for stages 4,5 and 6 @gritty shore @craggy bane

[gritty shore]

U need 55lvl be on second week, id suggest getting to 5th chapter in story just incase

[craggy bane]

I told u before, each boss have 3 stages, so 3+3 is 6

And about the third boss, u will unlock it with time

[gritty shore]

Also 1 boss has 3 difficulties

As Lazaro said above

I also suggest to get at least 55lvl and 5th chapter done before next week, cuz im not sure if 55lvl alone will get u third boss

[craggy bane]

And please, pleeeeease, ask before spending ppc skulls @spiral walrus they are a very scarce and valuable resource

[spiral walrus]

Spending what?

[spiral walrus]

Almost there ty, so it's locked for everyone till next week?

[gritty shore]

Locked for brand new players yes

Ur income is lower below 90lvl anyways

[craggy bane]

Ppc hives u a unique resource that are the skulls u see ln the left of ur sc, u can spend them on buying s rank units fragments to upgrade them to ss, but u need to be careful with who u spend them on, u wouldnt want to spend em on a less valuable unit

[gritty shore]

Cuz at 90lvl u unlock full potential of clash reflection, thus earning max amount of event tickets

[spiral walrus]

Oh understood. a quick question though, what in the screenshot shows that I spent some? Bc I don't remember I did

[craggy bane]

No, u didnt spemd any afaic, it was just an advise

So u dont spend em later on

Without knowing

[spiral walrus]

Okay thanks, So where can I find the shop for the shards to get my characters to SS? I only have nanami as a limited character and the two free ones along with a transcendent idk if he counts but he's S too

[craggy bane]

Go to ppc and in the bottom left corner it says shop

[gritty shore]

@spiral walrus also little advice when it comes to ppc keep in mind each difficulty of boss will eat 1 action point of all used characters in this stage if u save your score, so use your characters wisely to clear the bosses. If u arent satisfied with score and feel like u can push more then just cancel save and try again

Character has 3 action points

[worldly zealot]

Cursed Wave Guide Sheet by stagz
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZG9V0J0It5TcKRN1aPYTicje-Cb0gjA2tPR-SYH9H4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.5itufzyue7zr

Derived from Matrix Guide Sheet by koltuh
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ves3NSyv1TY031TwJ2SEHpe63c376khDNdRu53XgV3g/edit
Achievements Task Guide by 0_1234_5_6789_0
#📨・meta-help message

Awakening Tundra Endings by hex3393
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YkqeNmszBJ5ofB2yc3zzh8b9XhK6gV5L4vu2M_eenac/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[exotic dagger]

cw in 2025 is crazy

[fickle oasis]

I should prob do the gamemodes but... time :(

[dusty perch]

Can anyone tell me CW's optimal memory set? I wanna complete the event

[mellow widget]

whats the reward difference between Advance Zone and Ultimate Zone in Phantom pain

[storm pasture]

4sig2cottie

[viscid pollen]

sig being diesel

[storm pasture]

alot of variance
at most,the diff assuming max rewards is +10 skulls

[dusty perch]

Sig?

[dusty perch]

Ahh

[exotic dagger]

[candid palm]

Yo is this gameplay help channel but changed?

Can't find it anywhere so I'll ask help here now

[worldly zealot]

No this is new gph

[storm pasture]

it's casual help
old gph got renamed to #📨・meta-help

[worldly zealot]

That

[gritty shore]

change back so we dont have to lurk in both channels

[viscid pollen]

No thanks

[fickle oasis]

lower cd as well

[mellow widget]

So it's not that beneficial?

[candid palm]

Hmm I see

[storm pasture]

it's highly beneficial

extreme ppc is more valued

[candid palm]

Talk about physical element is it better to use dark element to deal more dmg than physical in warzone and every mode?

[spiral walrus]

Ok thanks

[gritty shore]

Iirc advanced full clear is like ultimate 1.55m bracket

Then its extra skulls if u reach next ones

[mellow widget]

So if I just want the weekly rewards, then should I just do Advanced?

[storm pasture]

sure

[verbal salmon]

Does Selena affix party deal more damage than Qu party to ice weakness stages?

[fickle oasis]

should in theory

[spiral walrus]

Should I upgrade everything on my characters?

[fickle oasis]

but you would prob have less up time with gallicization

[fickle oasis]

depends on character, and go ahead if you like them

[spiral walrus]

Also is it normal that I can get max lvl when I am barely lvl 50?

[fickle oasis]

I think? well, i doubt it matters much

[spiral walrus]

I am fairly new so some characters that I use now may not be used in the future, could you like give me a general good stopping point that I could get multiple characters to?

[whole pebble]

What's the timing to activate Pyroath's plasma beam effect on her first ult? I can't figure out when to hold the blue orb.

[fickle oasis]

well, knock yourself into #📨・meta-help for the most optimal advice. also to know what characters to use, use /glbteams to see gobal meta and use /cnteams to see future meta

[fickle oasis]

are you raw activiating ion/plasma with her only?

[whole pebble]

No I usually switch in from Lilith and can get a rotation in, but I can't rotate back to Lilith since she's on cooldown

So I'm trying to get 2 rotations in with Pyroath then switch off

[fickle oasis]

hmm, tbh, idk since I dont mess around with affix. search it up ig, or go ask in meta help..... cuz both channels are dead

[whole pebble]

Aight

[magic jolt]

you don't want to do the full rotation with Lucia on plasma because the plasma charge has a relatively short time, do a bunch of fast ults instead, and activate plasma as soon as you enter ult state for the first time

2 fast ults + one full ult is very easy to do but you can do even more fast ults

with SS3 Lucia

[rich orchid]

immediately

[surreal summit]

No, because glaciation isn't ice

[rich orchid]

as in when you hold ult to transform lucia to ult mode you instantly hold blue

[spiral walrus]

I got two selector one has until nanami pulse and the other till luna laurel. Ik all are kinda old but what are some good picks?

[rich orchid]

doesn't cuz affix cannot be used interchangeably on content

[magic jolt]

Just pick whoever you like tbh

[rich orchid]

glacio dmg doesn't do extra dmg against ice weak enemies
ice dmg doesn't do extra dmg against glacio weak enemies

[whole pebble]

Oh okay thank you

[rich orchid]

yes it really doesn't make sense but that's how kuro made it

[magic jolt]

I thought ice shred also increased glaciation damage

[rich orchid]

ice buffs benefit glacio

[worldly zealot]

Lith > pyro > nana > repeat

[spiral walrus]

Are they worth investing into?

[worldly zealot]

O was really scrolled up

[spiral walrus]

Probably not

[rich orchid]

but ice weakness/wz etc isn't the same

[magic jolt]

they're not meta on any team but sure why not? building characters in this game is pretty easy, and you need someone to start with

[rich orchid]

environmental modifiers don't benefit both

[magic jolt]

yeah

[rich orchid]

tbh you should have a free cw and feral to carry u no?

strictly speaking everyone in both early selectors is very very dead

to the point A ranks are doing their jobs

[magic jolt]

not like it matters, you can use whoever and still clear all the content

[verbal salmon]

So affix is just completely new element?

[rich orchid]

yeah i just mean for newbies better to raise the cw or their standard banner pick instead resource wise

would get them more mileage than any of the year1 units

[rich orchid]

yes
entirely different usage, entirely different teams

[surreal summit]

Pretty much

[magic jolt]

ultima slash highest scoring team? how the turns have tabled

[dusty perch]

Pyroath is the new meta fire damage dealer right?

[magic jolt]

yes

[rich orchid]

yes

and plasma dps too don't forget

[dusty perch]

So if I'm right, meta fire team is

Empyrea
Epitaph
Pyroath

[magic jolt]

Yes

[dusty perch]

Ok cool

[rich orchid]

then replace empyrea with geraivor later

[surreal summit]

Gayraver*

[dusty perch]

When is that coming?

[worldly zealot]

3 weeks

Technically closer to 2 now

[minor sable]

Should I pull for Ismael or save

[magic jolt]

Pull

[fickle oasis]

So basically, ice buff enhance glacio but ice weakness doesn't effect glacio?

[fickle oasis]

Pull everyone new

[minor sable]

Aiit bet (I only have enough for one 10x)

[rich orchid]

correct
side note affix wz is a little different

e.g. glacio wz

glacio does 30% more dmg
Ice does 20% less dmg
every other element does 70% less dmg

so 1.3x vs 0.8x vs 0.3x

[rapid idol]

This a functional void team?

[rich orchid]

ishmael cannot run with 2 amps/tanks

otherwise she doesn't function properly

[fickle oasis]

pretty much useless cuz of the resons stated by Aether. Addtionally, you need luna for void team

[rich orchid]

its a very bad team because ishmael isn't getting any buffs from any units here

[rapid idol]

Looks like I'm not making it to legend rank

At least I'm staying hero

[rich orchid]

you need to slot either luna or an attacker for the team to work in the first place
its not your fault its ishmael being a fraud

[rapid idol]

Will pyroath work?

[rich orchid]

kick nanami out for an attacker then ishmael will work

yeah pyroath works but you should still solo ishmael/maintain most of the field time on her

what rank is your lilith and ishmael

[rapid idol]

Lilith ss while parhelion at s0

[surreal summit]

Uh...

You can forget about it then

[rapid idol]

Damn

[fickle oasis]

u mayhaps wanna get parthelion to SS for sanity reasons

[surreal summit]

Any unit that isn't ss bare minimum is gonna be really bad to play

[rich orchid]

that's fine ishmael observer passive doesn't get affected by daren problems unless SS3 or higher
but yeah please SS your ishmael via ppc asap

SS is a mega powerspike

grind out ppc skulls for ishmael

[rapid idol]

Most likely parhelion ss going to be after solactune and Maybe Selena but I'll do that asap

Thanks

[fickle oasis]

do outlier for more easy skulls. should give enough to max out 1 or 2 char to ss

[rapid idol]

That's gone

[fickle oasis]

Ah

[rapid idol]

Used up by star trail pyroath epitaph and others

[fickle oasis]

Ah, oh well, have fun waiting

[rapid idol]

Hopefully solactune will be done this week as she at s6-7

[magic jolt]

you don't need Luna to play Ishmael

[spiral walrus]

Y'all how am I supposed to clear 6 stages of phantom pain while only having 3 attempts?

[magic jolt]

because you get 3 per day

[rapid idol]

Wait

[magic jolt]

on weekends you actually get 9

[rapid idol]

It takes 3 days for ppc so you be done by Wednesday

[spiral walrus]

Idk why it didn't say that I get more attempts I thought it was over lol

[fickle oasis]

why did they add that tho?

[magic jolt]

would be kinda impossible to finish if you didn't get more attempts xd

[spiral walrus]

Is it true that there is an anniversary banner during July?

[tired nexus]

There most likely will be

[rapid lintel]

Is next patch next wednesday

[rich orchid]

but u do need at least an attacker on the comp

[tired nexus]

However Kuro did announce they did want all the servers to be more allinged with CN calendar so maybe not this year

[rich orchid]

or ishmael literally can't shred void for herself

[spiral walrus]

How does it work?

[tired nexus]

Yes June 25th

Livestream should be tomorrow iirc

[magic jolt]

I don't know exactly when it is but yes. You can select any character up to a certain patch to get with 100% rate. And after you get them you can select another one if you want. You can select all of them assuming you have enough BC to pull all of them

Just be lucky and get everyone in 1 pull each 👍

[spiral walrus]

Insane strategy

[magic jolt]

there's also a discounted banner specifically for old characters but idk if we're getting that one

[tired nexus]

I think we should

No reason not to

[magic jolt]

there was one in Hanying patch I think, wouldn't it be too soon?

would probably save me a lot of money if it did run again

[spiral walrus]

After the synchronization ends, how do the game usually release characters? Like are there patches with no 5 stars?

[magic jolt]

Yes

Usually there's either an A rank or a free character in between S rank patches (each patch is one character)

I say usually because very soon we're getting 4 S ranks in a row 💀

[spiral walrus]

That's waaay too chill compared to HSR💀

[magic jolt]

granted one is free and another is discounted but still

[rich orchid]

well

[spiral walrus]

U mean collab right?

[magic jolt]

well yea HSR is a Hoyo game

[rich orchid]

there is an upcoming stretch of 4 S ranks in 3 patches

[magic jolt]

to be fair one of them is free, and the other is discounted, so it's still bad but not THAT bad

usually we get one A rank or one free S rank in between each S rank release, which is enough time to gather currency to guarantee every new S rank even as F2P

[rich orchid]

PGR is usually supposed to be one S -> A -> S -> A
but recently they have been getting more and more greedy trying to do 3 S ranks or 4 in a row
even if they are free their gear usually isn't and the free units are pretty greedy for ranks too

[magic jolt]

the weapon banner is permanently available so you don't need to pull the weapon with the character, you can leave it for later when you have more BC

[spiral walrus]

But isn't that normal considering it's a 3 or 2 in one patch?

[magic jolt]

or you can just... not pull the weapon xd

[rich orchid]

no that's glb exclusive bs

[magic jolt]

3 or 2 in one patch is because of sync, once we catch up we will go back to one character per patch

[rich orchid]

because they wanted GLB to "catch up" to CN you are speeding up

[spiral walrus]

That's a good thing though

[rich orchid]

once the sync is over expect a wave of complaints about the loss of income

[magic jolt]

this recent stretch of 4 S ranks is a row is pretty sus, I hope we go back to "normal"

[rich orchid]

cuz you've been coasting on 2x/3x rewards so far

[magic jolt]

in theory it's not really going to make a difference because yeah you got double rewards but you also got two characters, now you get 1x rewards but one character, but people are still going to complain

[rich orchid]

it would be good IF
and i mean IF
kuro didn't decide to be greedy as hell and run lots of S ranks back to back
even current GLB is going through basically 6 S ranks in 3 patches which is very abnormal

[spiral walrus]

I wonder what's actually doubled or tripled bc I don't think everything in the game is boosted, like for example the dailies give 60. Isn't that normal?

[magic jolt]

everything is doubled or tripled

[rich orchid]

everything is boosted

[magic jolt]

dailies weeklies endgame mode rewards everything

[spiral walrus]

Lol so what do dailies usually give. Like 30?

[magic jolt]

I think so yea

the daily as in the thing at the bottom you fill up to 100

[rich orchid]

they literally double/triple everything
they had some issues in the 1st sync patch but now its working

[magic jolt]

it doesn't really make a difference because yes you get double rewards but you get two patches in the same amount of time, when we go back to normal you will still get the same amount of rewards per patch more or less

[spiral walrus]

Understandable, But how are they supposed to do it otherwise? They gotta release the characters along theirs respective patches right?

[magic jolt]

but people who are used to getting triple rewards will be disappointed when we go back to 1x I guess xd

[magic jolt]

Basically we used to go S -> A -> S -> A but recently we have got S -> S -> S -> S, this is not related to the sync in any way, China is getting one character per patch and they just got 4 S ranks in a row

[rich orchid]

free S ranks aren't same as A rank as well
because there's the wep/cub/rank tax

[spiral walrus]

Oh so it's for both serevrs

[rich orchid]

but kuro treats free S ranks as "saving patches"

[magic jolt]

The problem is that under S -> A -> S -> A you get enough income to guarantee every character, but under S -> S -> S -> S that is obviously not the case

[wise ore]

They still count them as "filler"

[rich orchid]

when they are very much not outside of maybe lilith

[magic jolt]

skip dmc problem solved

[spiral walrus]

Aren't free S ranks good enough atleast when u get them to SS?

[wise ore]

Yeah i honestly will

[rich orchid]

it still has a cost to it which is why its so egregious that they handwave that problem

[magic jolt]

yeah everyone is good

[wise ore]

If they make them like lilith we should be good

[magic jolt]

every new character is meta, that includes the free ones

the free Lilith we just got this patch is the meta dark amplifier and the main DPS of the dark team

all the free dorm characters are also meta

[rich orchid]

typically free S ranks are meta yes
BUT they are also not always exactly... as strong as their paid counterparts
by free S ranks we don't mean the selectors they hand out every 6 months
we mean PERMANENTLY free units
older vets have ptsd about some of these units

they only started making these free units stronger recently

[magic jolt]

nah they're all good tbh Echo is the only sus one but that's because physical sucks

[rich orchid]

capri my good sir

echo is actually stupidly OP for what she is

[magic jolt]

Capriccio doesn't exist because Lilith is a thing now

[rich orchid]

esp post-leap anyways

[candid sorrel]

How essential would startrails SS be if i already have feral and crimson weave at SS plus all 3 of their sig's?

[magic jolt]

Echo is OP in the sense she makes physical a lot more playable (still a massive pain to play) but she really wants a 6 star weapon to harmonize which is not the case with the other free units

[rich orchid]

Startrail is the main dps of the team
her SS is the most important

[candid sorrel]

Damn, cheers for saying^^

[wise ore]

At least tonitrus exists

[magic jolt]

if you're new you can use Bianca's weapon from the weapon selector thing to cope I guess

[rich orchid]

its good enough

[magic jolt]

Just delete physical from the game honestly

[rich orchid]

you lose just 10% phys dmg bonus and 1 onfield orb lmao

[magic jolt]

I'm not even going to bother doing physical warzone

[spiral walrus]

I mean fair enough, For me as long as they still clear at f2p lvl I am satisfied bc it's to be expected that the whale lvl of investment is stronger and idk if weapons and cubs are a necessity to perform well

[magic jolt]

You can clear everything with anyone

[rich orchid]

cubs are usually just a dmg bonus
however weps can vary from double dps to support qol to literally half of their kit

[magic jolt]

The only reason to care about the performance of some character is to get a higher score in endgame modes but this is completely unnecessary

[rich orchid]

sigless pyroath or sigless qu are notably the worst offenders

[spiral walrus]

Oh damn, I got startrail and aiming to get oblivion next. Are their weapons necessary?

[magic jolt]

it's not like Star Rail where you get like 60 jades from the last couple MoC stages or whatever, here you get the BC for participation or incredibly easy to reach targets that you could reach with 4 year old characters without issue

like getting 200k score in warzone surely it's impossible to get lower than that

[worldly zealot]

Sounds like a hoyo refugee

[spiral walrus]

Bro what

[worldly zealot]

😔

[magic jolt]

the person I'm talking to plays Star Rail so it's useful to give a comparison

[rich orchid]

the weapon system in this game is arguably the worst gap between non signature and signature
if it weren't for how cheap the weapons are

(also the recent guaranteed qol, before that was hell)

[worldly zealot]

If you dont get it you're not there yet

[spiral walrus]

Lol that's kinda funny, I mean I've seen the scores and some of them look like ppl have spent their life savings to get there

[magic jolt]

weapons are a huge damage boost but like... the only reason to care about damage is to compete with people in warzone where you will never beat the people spending $5k per patch anyways

and you get nothing for doing it anyways

it's not like some PvP games out there where you actually get the majority of your currency from PvP modes

[rich orchid]

tbf the main reason why people get weps is for qol not for raw dmg usually

to make the characters feel less bad to play

esp when story trials are SSS+ r3 units

then you go back to base S 5* wep

[magic jolt]

I don't mind characters feeling "bad" to play most of the time, friction is good

I've seen more than one person say they enjoyed the game more when they actually had to dodge to trigger matrix and when they could actually die

the only character I think is really really horrendous to play without signature weapon is Luna Oblivion

[rich orchid]

ehhhh i feel like that's actually more a rare opinion than the general consensus regarding signatures

because kuro does actively rip out part of a character's kit into the wep half the time

[spiral walrus]

Ofc it had to be the one I want lol

[magic jolt]

true especially recently, they definitely do it on purpose

but like eh not a big deal tbh, you don't need to hyperoptimize everything to enjoy the game

[spiral walrus]

True that.

Weapons are guaranteed right?

@magic jolt pulling on skins is the way to go 😂

[fickle oasis]

make one of the new characters basically Danjin

high risk, high reward

[magic jolt]

Overused example but in Dark Souls people enjoy the struggle and friction and failure. If you could add a ring that made you invincible and instakilled every enemy on the screen, the metaslaves would use it and encourage everyone to use it, but that wouldn't necessarily make the experience of playing the game more enjoyable.

[rich orchid]

80% first pity
guaranteed second

you're lucky you didn't join prior to pyroath there was 0 guarantee

[spiral walrus]

Wait what? Explain pls

[magic jolt]

at least losing the 80/20 is not a complete waste since even if you can't use it on anyone you can use it for resonance

[magic jolt]

Before Pyroath patch there was no guarantee after losing 80/20, you could lose again

[fickle oasis]

No unless it's luna's skin, or lucias upcoming wedding one

[fickle oasis]

basically, there were poeple who lost wep banner like 3-4 times in a row

[magic jolt]

Imagine Staff of Homa incident but with way higher rates (80%)

[spiral walrus]

That's like the refinements of a weapon right?

[magic jolt]

Not rly it's a way to add extra effects to your character

[fickle oasis]

in a way, yes. but more of a booster

[spiral walrus]

Oh it's new effects

[magic jolt]

It's not just a numbers boost for the weapon

[spiral walrus]

How do u like it?

[magic jolt]

For example tanks can have Domain Deconstruction resonance on their weapon which gives more resistance shred

[fickle oasis]

Or dlt (deadline timing) which gives more orb

[spiral walrus]

How many times can you activate resonance for a weapon?

[magic jolt]

A lot. I got it day 1 and was counting the days until its release for many months ahead of time. I get all the Luna coatings.

[magic jolt]

Three, and you need one 6 star weapon or an item people call a weapon USB for each one

[fickle oasis]

Peak skin. only thing I dislike is the background being rc

[spiral walrus]

Based tbh, she only got this one on gacha right? The other two are only paid?

[magic jolt]

The weapon USBs are either rarely given for free in events (we just got 2 this patch from the Thunder Manual thing) or you get shards that can be exchanged for USBs by doing one of the endgame modes

so you don't HAVE to pull extra weapons for resonance

[lofty flicker]

It’s more like a Qol, some units feel a bit wacky without the resonance especially main dps (and you are using them solo)

[magic jolt]

At least I don't

[fickle oasis]

So idealy, you wanna save them, only using them to give characters dlt if they really need it

[magic jolt]

Yep

Any Luna content I whale for, shrimple as that

[spiral walrus]

I mean idk if I'll ever pull for weapons besides maybe luna since u said she's so bad without it but we'll see

[spiral walrus]

Based ngl, is that an S6?

[magic jolt]

yeah honestly she's the only one I think feels really bad without her weapon, at least weapons are 30 pulls and new players get a lot of pulls from one time sources

[magic jolt]

That's SSS+ (highest possible rank) which is 10 copies total

[fickle oasis]

around more then 100k bc

[magic jolt]

150k BC

assuming worst case scenario of going to 60 on every copy

[spiral walrus]

10 copies with the initial one? Like how in other games it's 7 with the initial one?

[magic jolt]

Yeah 10 copies with the initial one

[spiral walrus]

Was that the case for u?

[fickle oasis]

including ppc skulls (i think)

[magic jolt]

No but on my way from SSS to SSS+ which is 6 more copies I did go to 60 on each one (in fact I went to 60 on 8, because I pulled on 70/30 arrival banner and lost twice)

[spiral walrus]

Does each copy unlock a new rank?

[fickle oasis]

nop. you get 30 shards per copy

and you need bout like 3 to get from SS to SSS. (i think?)

[magic jolt]

No. You only get benefits at S5 (free with pain cage skulls), SS (free with pain cage skulls), SS3 (one extra copy), SSS (two more extra copies so 4 copies total including the initial one), SSS3 (two more copies), SSS6 (two more copies) and SSS+ (two more copies)

but the benefits past SSS are really minor tbh

SSS is the ideal spender stopping point, SSS+ is only for ultra whales or for a character you really like

[fickle oasis]

but honestly, stopping at SS3 is enough for most characters, anything above SSS is not really worth

[spiral walrus]

So after I get a character I would want to get them through S5 and then SS from pain cage skulls?

[magic jolt]

yeah honestly most characters work fine at SS, very few at SS3

[fickle oasis]

unless you like them, in which case, do what you want

[brittle seal]

clash reflection is so ez

[fickle oasis]

u can get them to SS by spending 500 skulls

[magic jolt]

Yep. SS is a huge quality of life boost for most characters. It's free with pain cage skulls but you mainly get those from weekly pain cage so you don't have an infinite supply. Though new players get a LOT from the outlier point thing.

[fickle oasis]

But once you finish it.... it becomes like your wallet
-# (for the non employed)

gaining more skulls is pretty dang slow and dry after. gotta wait for weekly referesh

[spiral walrus]

Is it S then SS or there is S5 bc u mentioned that

[fickle oasis]

SS is the max that PPC skulls can take u to

[magic jolt]

basically you go from S to S1 to S2 to S3 etc. up to "S10" which is SS

[fickle oasis]

which u wanna do for 90% of characters

[magic jolt]

it takes 30 shards to go from S0 to SS and you can get 30 shards with pain cage skulls

[fickle oasis]

as it makes them a lot more ideal and fun to play.

[magic jolt]

yeah SS is a huge boost tbh, S to SS is probably the biggest boost a character ever gets

[spiral walrus]

Yeah I see I was mainly curious about how the ranks go up when I asked about S5, turns out there is a whole lot of them lol

[magic jolt]

yep S1 S2 S3 etc. but they all give very minor damage boosts, the ones that unlock new skills are S5, SS, SS3, SSS, SSS3, SSS6, and SSS+

[spiral walrus]

How will it be for vergil though? I heard u pull one and get one for free. So does that make him automatically SS?

[magic jolt]

actually some of them don't even give damage boosts, they can give stuff like HP or crit which does nothing for almost everyone lol

[fickle oasis]

Yes

[spiral walrus]

Will that suffice?

[magic jolt]

it will suffice unless you want to pursue high scores

[fickle oasis]

should

[magic jolt]

some people enjoy getting high scores in itself

if you're not one of those people it doesn't rly matter

and if you're one of those people I'm sorry but the most effective way to increase your score is to spend a lot of money

[spiral walrus]

I mean high scores are cool but u can only go so far

[fickle oasis]

honestly, get 1 copy of him, wep, cub, then see. if you wanna spend, then go ahead since he's not returning. also He got this offer because colab char are not in ppc shop

[spiral walrus]

Yeah I figured

[magic jolt]

you don't get any rewards for chasing high scores, I mainly see it as a way to bait tryhards into spending money, everyone else just gets the benefits of the most F2P-friendly gacha I've seen

[spiral walrus]

And for Dante u get only S for free right?

[lofty flicker]

Right

[spiral walrus]

I won't bother, Not as motivated as vergil

[brittle pewter]

SS3 best stopping point for DMC for the majority of people

[lofty flicker]

Btw, i don’t like sync things we are having in GLB rn, the hell i jumped from CN to GLB just to see the pace of powercreept is increasing by a lot 💀

4 s ranks in a rows, and the life span of most gen 3 units and recent gen 2 has been cut off compare to themselves in CN

[brittle pewter]

Once sync is done we'll be moving at normal pace atleast

[lofty flicker]

Atleast newbie are enjoying the sync

[brittle pewter]

I'm definitely enjoying it

[hollow ginkgo]

Me yea

[rich orchid]

you mean skip

[hollow ginkgo]

Considering that after sync ends we will get less rewards than now is kinda sad

[lofty flicker]

Me personally don’t, but people happy then i do too 🫡

[hollow ginkgo]

also How good is SSS+ Jetavie
assuming I only have SS Lilith with cub and weapon as my dark character lol

[brittle pewter]

About as strong as you'd expect for an A rank

[hollow ginkgo]

So similar to Yata?

[brittle pewter]

Does she do more damage than Teddy atleast tho?

[fickle oasis]

much more

[brittle pewter]

That sounds good

[hollow ginkgo]

That's great
I low-key believe that if some A Rank characters had Time Lag Calculation they would be better than a lot of S ranks

[fickle oasis]

good enough to outclass lamia, if she had time stop during ult

[hollow ginkgo]

Yeahhhh

Awesomeness
Thanks

[lofty flicker]

Jeta in beta was absolutely bang for an A rank

[brittle pewter]

Than they nerfed her 😭

[hollow ginkgo]

Also does this game have redemption codes or something
Been wondering what that code redeem section in settings is used for

[lofty flicker]

But Kuro did what they do as usual, nerf it because Jeta is free

[brittle pewter]

Livestreams typically

[hollow ginkgo]

So I missed on 2 Livestream codes already

God Damn It

[wet bluff]

Where code

[hollow ginkgo]

wait 5 days

[wet bluff]

[hollow ginkgo]

also BIG QUESTION @brittle pewter @lofty flicker @fickle oasis

[fickle oasis]

Yes sir?

[hollow ginkgo]

Ok so I realized that after a game version ends, the characters get added to the Standard Banner Selector

does this mean that, If I save my standard banner pulls, I can get Selena or Vera?

[wet bluff]

Two versions

[lofty flicker]

Yeah, wait till dmc patch

[wet bluff]

If you still have the rate up 100% selector

[hollow ginkgo]

Yeah I still do

[wet bluff]

Then yes

[hollow ginkgo]

Assuming that dmc patch gets merged with bianca patch, it means that I can get selena or vera right

[fickle oasis]

You can, but u wanna use the s rank standered banner to get one of the older characters. but do note, s rank standard is one time. if you already have all meta so far then yes, save it for idealy slena or vera. or use it for Selena ss3

[wet bluff]

Yes

[hollow ginkgo]

Nah I'm fine

[fickle oasis]

Then go ahead. but I dont think not getting them fresh is a good idea, but then again, you are getting them slightly later

[hollow ginkgo]

I got most stuff already
Fire Pyroath (missing watanabe and liv)
Nihil almost complete
Ice team almost complete (missing a dps but I'm not getting qu, I'll wait for a new ice Character)
Physical team has SS Alissa and that's really it lol, I also have S Bianca if that works
Full Lightning Team
For dark I have Lilith and she's a menace lol

[fickle oasis]

throw watanabe into your fire team next patch, for phy, you do wanna get solace eventually

[hollow ginkgo]

Oh yeah I'm close

Just 3000 bc pull and I'll get the selector

[fickle oasis]

thats good. for dark, you can cope with jetavie until new Bianca comes out

[hollow ginkgo]

That's also my plan for Watanabe

I'm saving my 500 ppc skulls rn for either Vera or Selena

[fickle oasis]

selena prob would be better since shes attacker

main dps of phy

[hollow ginkgo]

rn I have: SS Pyroath (has weapon and resonance), SS Lilith (has cub and weapon), SS Ishmael (has weapon, still didn't choose a resonance), SS Nanami, SS Luna (has weapon), SS Crimson Weave (Has everything except resonance), SS Alissa and that's pretty much it

[lofty flicker]

You really need Selena over Vera lmao

You can cope with Ish as an fire amp

[hollow ginkgo]

I'm planning to get SSS Dante and Vergil

[lofty flicker]

But no one can replace Selena (if you care about score casue Bianca is ded ded ded)

[fickle oasis]

skip vera then

[hollow ginkgo]

Might brick my account for a few months but I'm planning to play this game for a looooong time

[hollow ginkgo]

U see I'm a lucky mf I got most of my characters in the free one pulls

[lofty flicker]

Vergil need Solacetune, and Vergil somehow cannot surpass Bianca in Phys at all lmao

[hollow ginkgo]

weapons included

[fickle oasis]

thats peak.

[hollow ginkgo]

I love gambling

[hollow ginkgo]

Really? That's a shame but I'll still get them

I heard that most of SSS Vergil's damage is outfield

because of his insane qte buffs

[fickle oasis]

yeah, he's qte nuke

[lofty flicker]

Okay, assuming you gonna cope with Vergil in Phys, you really need Solacetune for Ultima

[hollow ginkgo]

Kinda sad that Dante got nerfed but it is what it is, he was a little overturned

[lofty flicker]

Without Hanying, Vergil is death

[hollow ginkgo]

does Solacetune need to be ss or have weapon

[lofty flicker]

Really need it

[hollow ginkgo]

Both?

[lofty flicker]

Yeah

[hollow ginkgo]

Dang it
Guess ill use my ppc skulls on her lol

[fickle oasis]

u wanna get her to SS3 for ts (i think)

[hollow ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158163894871806063/1341262622498230364/Bartologue_Horror.gif

[lofty flicker]

Yeah, for more ease to use

Uhm SS acutally fine but you gonna have to do the rotation longer than SS3

Which is score losing anyway

[hollow ginkgo]

low-key fine with that

[fickle oasis]

yeah, went back and read it, SS3 is now a Qol upgrade for vergil

[hollow ginkgo]

I don't need insane records as long as I can stay in Hero wz I'm happy

[lofty flicker]

Yeah, rn get Hanying her SS and sig is your priority due to you gonna use Vergil for Phys and Ultima

[hollow ginkgo]

Dante will be my ignition goat too

dante naname and jetavie/vera

Vera is Nihil right? or fire amp

[lofty flicker]

Fire amp

But again, you atleast can cope with using Ish as an fire amp

[hollow ginkgo]

there goes liv emp lol

[lofty flicker]

[zinc edge]

Hi I’m new here, does anyone’s game freeze when they try to access the wither to shine 14 day sign

[calm rock]

can anyone tell me ishmael ss3 rotation in wz?

[magic jolt]

swap ult yellow red red dash dash ult blue ult red dash hold dash red dash ult hold dash ult red dash hold dash red dash ult swap out

[rich orchid]

fire darkflow amp

[magic jolt]

Ishmael has a bunch of different rotations tho

there's some rotation where you fit 4 ults into one swap

[fickle oasis]

fire amp, also can be used for nihil, but using liltih would be better since shes gonna be more build (likely)

[magic jolt]

wouldn't Ayla be better than Lilith then?

[pearl laurel]

yes, it's a known bug
you will get the missing rewards from there via mail after jun 25th

[magic jolt]

Ayla has the fast QTE + Ishmael would copy Wanshi shred which is better than Scire

and Ayla SSS is also free with vouchers

[fickle oasis]

idk, i just said that since most people would invest in lilith more cuz shes new and they prob got her near SSS

[magic jolt]

prob but assuming SSS Ayla and SSS Lilith rather go with Ayla imo

maybe when dark gets a new tank

[old hull]

I wouldnt be surprised if a ice amplifier got released next

[zinc edge]

Aight thanks

[magic jolt]

I'm expecting either dark tank or lightning attacker

[hollow ginkgo]

Next patch is probably ice character lets be real

which is why I'm not getting Qu

[magic jolt]

Shukra replacement trust

Ayla replacement would suck tbh since she's so good for new players

[old hull]

Midkra

[rough escarp]

Which one should I pull

[sturdy bough]

I'ma suggest you share your Huaxu
#📨・general-help message

cause hard to advise seeing you own everyone in the ss

[rough escarp]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/24174007/characters

[fickle oasis]

Would throw lucia into ss3 unless the selector updates next patch, which i would then reccomend throwing selena into ss3

[fringe elbow]

It doesn't

It's fixed to Nanaknight

If I'm not wrong

[fickle oasis]

idk which selector this is, but if it's thunderbolt then prob use it on lucia to get her to SS3

[fringe elbow]

Guys

Listen

Don't be mad

We won't get the space background nor the field background

[narrow hull]

what does the wattage mean in warzone? Like 521W.

[pearl laurel]

w = 10,000

[bitter night]

wattage

[jovial monolith]

Hi! Who should I get from the character selector that we get in the beginning?
I started yesterday.

[fresh burrow]

521W = 0.521 kW

[bitter night]

all the starting characters are pretty irrelevant long term (very bad compared to newer stuff) but the best is in general probably pulse

[sturdy bough]

did you get your S rank from the standard banner yet?

[jovial monolith]

u mean this banner?

[sturdy bough]

as usual tho, share your Huaxu so people can give better informed advice
#📨・general-help message

[sturdy bough]

yea

[jovial monolith]

No I did not get the S rank yet as I've only done 10 pulls on it so far.

[sturdy bough]

I'd say to wait until you get an S rank from there to see where you're lacking afterwards

[jovial monolith]

Alright. Where do I get the currency to pull on this banner tho?

[sturdy bough]

log in weekly, events, I think there should be some student missions in the guide tab that also give tickets

[unique egret]

just pick luna for ur first S rank on standard banner, pick any on the mail selector

[sturdy bough]

Oblivion converts everyone on her team to void damage so she's good for mixed teams when you don't have any other built teams yet

[jovial monolith]

I asked about which S rank to rate up on this banner and someone from here recommend me to get Nanami startrail, is she no good then?

[sturdy bough]

Nanami is still good, she's the newest electric tank

[jovial monolith]

So for long term, Nanami is the better pick i assume 🤔

[sturdy bough]

in a sense, cause void only has 2 characters that are void atm

putting it this way tho

if you wanna build lightning asap Nanami

because Alpha and 21 free

so you can get a full meta team quickly

[jovial monolith]

Alpha crimson weave you mean right

[sturdy bough]

Yup

[jovial monolith]

Yeah makes sense. I'll try to build a solid team first

[sturdy bough]

if you don't care to build teams quickly, aka trying to get one good char per element first, Oblivion

[jovial monolith]

Like to play for the long haul anyway : )

[wet bluff]

It doesn't meta what you choose

[sturdy bough]

eventually you'll need to build everyone

[unique egret]

meta mentioned, banned

[jovial monolith]

Oh... Cool then. I can just pick whoever looks good from the selector

[sturdy bough]

if you build lightning first tho, don't pick any of the lightning chara in here

[jovial monolith]

Oh. How's that?

[sturdy bough]

since there's gonna be more selectors

[tired nexus]

Nanami, Pyroath, Solacetune are the best options, but in the end it's up to you

[wet bluff]

What lightning character

[potent lynx]

hello, i wanna ask, what should i get here? i always get CW's shard here but since someone doesn't recommend it, i don't know what to get now

[sturdy bough]

cause if you get alpha, 21, and nanaknight first, the lightning chars will be useless

[sturdy bough]

there's the support selector later on iirc

[unique egret]

wanshe or lilick

[jovial monolith]

Yeah right, so Kamui looks good among the 5 . Any problem if I pick him then?

[sturdy bough]

np

I mistook that for the hekkin tank selector-- but anyways in the battle tab there's a section to help boost newbies

[jovial monolith]

No prob if the prioritise remain the same ; )

[brisk forge]

When is the standard selector banner resetting ?

[tired nexus]

It hasnt yet in CN

[magic jolt]

it reset this patch

[brisk forge]

Alright, thanks

[brisk forge]

Get Wanshi ASAP

[warm rivet]

Is Ishmael cub a huge upgrade?

[fringe elbow]

Wanshi and Lilith are best picks

[marble path]

Lilith shards or wanshi

[red sleet]

Should I use trade voucher for buy 6 star Wp resonance shard?

[unique egret]

no u use trade voucher to buy s rank char shards

[vernal violet]

Vouchers are very scarce if you're not a spender sadly, using it on Inver Shards is usually your best bet

[red sleet]

Then how we get material for resonance wp

[keen lion]

Norman

[tall trench]

Who is norman and why do I have to revive him

[red wing]

Yeah you could say that

[magic jolt]

Be fcking grateful she's graceful

[red wing]

• Ishmael CUB basically a permanent 40% ATK buff

[hard elk]

do i use qte or dps set for lillith on plasma affix team?

[mortal drift]

these the best skills for simulated siege?

[magic jolt]

It depends

[mortal drift]

Ok mcdonald

😂

[magic jolt]

Hey atleast I have a job

And I'm not a newbie at pgr

And I don't have to watch 16 minute guides on youtube

[mortal drift]

https://tenor.com/view/boogie-rage-fast-angry-gif-16637849

[magic jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tyunsmol-argue-whiteboard-white-man-gif-21851203

[red wing]

Pretty sure you use solo core alpha, if that's the one with the qte damage

[brisk forge]

QTE

[mortal drift]

i dont think so, but its alright ill just go with the video

probably dont matter too much anyway

[red wing]

Yeah you use this for solo school
And the one with +time after qte kill

And idk the 3rd one
But basically this solo core one shots bosses

[magic jolt]

Lowkey op

[mortal drift]

sheesh ok

[red wing]

If you read it, it's stackable
Gives you damage, and if you max it it just kills the boss usually

[magic jolt]

Qte spam

[red wing]

That's a given in ss

[magic jolt]

Wanshi 12drone ult spam

[mortal drift]

okidoke, think the most important one is the time as well

[magic jolt]

With solo + ishmael + time

Your 2minute and 30second siege turns into 15 minutes

irl at least

[mortal drift]

aww hell nah

[red wing]

https://tenor.com/view/za-warudo-toki-wo-tomare-gif-8629953

[mortal drift]

for the 2nd part of description, either i can't english or kuro can't english

[magic jolt]

She turned 10 seconds into 47 seconds irl

[magic jolt]

You can't english

[pearl laurel]

that's why I'm happy we didn't see that cutscene simulator in gb yet

[magic jolt]

How long is gb with lilith

[pearl laurel]

although lilith is already a cutscene spammer

[unique egret]

ohh eu didnt get any ish in gb? asia got her once so far

[pearl laurel]

nope, we dodged it so far

[unique egret]

insane

[red wing]

If you switch to a different character
And neither are the same class
You get a stack, and there is an attack

[mortal drift]

yep that's simple, but the 2nd part feels redundant, it says after effect is triggered 2 times, reduce 30% hp when effect is triggered the 3rd time

soooo basically just after effect is triggered 2 times then

[red wing]

No that seems like the 3rd time

Every 3rd swap you get big damage

[mortal drift]

oh i see, every 3rd time, ok i get it

[steady pond]

Who's in the next banner and when? and how worth is it

[red wing]

As for how worth it is
It is

[sharp atlas]

How to login to my account (PC) via Google account? It says 'Please go to the website to authorize sign-in'

[red wing]

Yeah it should open your browser

And then you login there with google

[teal frigate]

It automatically open your browser as a pop up

[red wing]

If it doesn't open then try again, or open your browser first and then try

[teal frigate]

Your browser setting should not block all pop ups

Put it into default setting

[sharp atlas]

Where can I find the setting? Already restarted the game but the browser won't auto open

[exotic dagger]

i saw a 12min run

[teal frigate]

Go to browser setting, reset default setting

[sharp atlas]

Is it this one? (Haven't downloaded discord on PC yet)

[west jackal]

how do i get more cogs

[sharp atlas]

Still won't pop up

[proud jay]

Battle > Resources > Simulated Battlefield
Buy Cog packs from there
Open em in your inventory

[west jackal]

alright thank you

[shy yoke]

Yuh

[cosmic merlin]

Hi i need guide for beginner like which character to pull first...etc

[prisma wadi]

realistically how long would it take to obtain all the event currency from the last 3?

[west jackal]

Can i just scrap which ever weapon i choose or

[proud jay]

uhh. yes
Tundra is the quickest, but only if you do a specific strat that makes it go really fast. its also the most boring
as for actual time, like, godsspeed. genuienly

[proud jay]

no. if you scroll to the right there should be a Tonitrus. grab that one

its for a future character you probably dont have yet. but can obtain for free in time

[west jackal]

is it veritas?

[proud jay]

Tonitrus is Veritas' weapon yes, but we'll be using it on Alisa: Echo instead. she REALLY wants any 6* weapon so that you can Harmonize it, whicch is a huge buff for her

[proud jay]

we have no full beginner guide. thats our job
you should have a selector on the standard banner. from there, grab Nanami Startrail (first image)
with your black cards and other resources, try to pull for Ishmael Parhelion on the Event Banner (second image)
DO **NOT ** pull on any banner that says "Fate" on it. always avoid those

[sharp atlas]

New to the pc stuff, what key binds are generally 'better' and also some tips

[dusky tree]

Should I leap stigmata?

Also rigor?

[proud jay]

if you go into battle, press Y once to enable your mouse to be used for combat. so that you can attack with leftclick and dodge with rightclick
i like to also change my interact button from I to F, but thats up to you.
your Orbs is another thing. some people like to keep it as-is, by going from 1-8. but others prefer making it so the first four orbs are covered in 1-4, and then 5-8 is done by holding shift and then pressing any number 1-4. completely up to you

[west jackal]

how exactly do you use these

[dusky tree]

Alway

[proud jay]

stigmata leap will only be used in "Ultima Slash" content, which is reserved to Hero-Rank warzone or higher. not needed. Stigma will be replaced out of physical by Selena next patch, which is why that doesnt matter
Rigor, sure. if shes your best tank

[proud jay]

it consumes those whenever you try to upgrade a weapon or memory

[elfin zealot]

I feel like CW is still meta imma leave this here

[west jackal]

oh okay

[proud jay]

well then you feel incorrectly

[elfin zealot]

Thank me later 😃

[dusky tree]

My best tank asap will startrail

[proud jay]

yea my bad. i was referring to your best PHYSICAL tank

[dusky tree]

Ohh that she’s

New Selena in next patch ?

[proud jay]

ayup. Physical attacker

[dusky tree]

Sadly my stigmata

[proud jay]

shes like 2 years old bro. let her rest 💔

[brisk forge]

I use both swaps on my mouse side buttons, Z > x > c > v... ect is my orb direction on QWERTY 75% keyboard, A key as cub, S key as ultimate or use Q and R respectively

[dusky tree]

Fr bro cuz I’m quit since 2024

And I alway play her

[tawny perch]

What would be vergil's bis?

[cerulean anvil]

Sparda's Virgin

Main DPS Set Set

Usage

Main DPS Set

Game Modes

High Difficulty, Pain Cage, Warzone, Clash Reflection, Norman

Description

Recommended for all ranks
General DPS set
This unit has not been released on Global yet. Please take these builds with a grain of salt as they are subject to change.

Memories

4x Patton
2x Cottie

Memory Resonances

Top Slot : 6x Any ATK+15 Variant
Bottom Slot: 6x Signature

Harmony Recommendation

Cottie

[proud jay]

the usual

[pseudo harbor]

Both Dante and Virgil have 4 Frederick setups for PPC/IB burst minmax

Get ready to learn dodge spamming again

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

[fringe elbow]

Oh that's actually in Vergil's kit

You have to dodge before JC anyways

[tawny perch]

I meant bis team 👉👈

[proud jay]

oo

[tawny perch]

Okie tyy

[magic jolt]

Keep playing her, no big deal

[turbid agate]

hi i have a question about 5 plasma ult pyroath would anyone be down to help me review my rotation?

[unique egret]

send vid

surely ur lucia is ss3 or above right?

[brisk forge]

If you're at SS, use this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdRrZrEStI&list=PL2d34TFHBG4E2g455eSTp2zUqS0Jkr69o&index=1

2nd rot is op, but difficult to pull off

[turbid agate]

sss and dlt, the whole package

[unique egret]

ur 2nd slash dont need to ping blue, just straight hold ba+ba

also u need to keep holding ur ult button while doing 3b 3b hold ba 3b

[turbid agate]

what would this do?

[unique egret]

so that u can ult instantly whenever available

[turbid agate]

also not sure why i'm always short on ult energy by the supposed last ult

[brisk forge]

Could be you're not using her full meter in ult 2 in the previous rot

[brittle pewter]

got to do another ping

[unique egret]

5 Slash

Swap > Red 3x > BA(must be on ground) > Hold Ult (Hold Blue to activate ion) > Slash

Hold BA > BA > Slash

3 Blue 2x > Hold BA > Slash

3 Blue 2x > Hold BA > 3 Blue > Slash

3 Blue 2x > Hold BA > Slash > 3 Blue

[brittle pewter]

Best strat to do is hold ult while doing it

[turbid agate]

thank you

i've seen like 2 guides that say to spam blue while holding down ult for the slash now is that a thing? cuz i don't think it'd do anything?

[brittle pewter]

pretty much that's what I do

[unique egret]

it is

[brittle pewter]

You literally need to be frame perfect on ults

otherwise won't have enough flash left for the 5th slash

[unique egret]

what i do is during every slash i let go ult key, then on first blue i just hold ult and continue doing 2nd blue hold ba and 3rd blue(if needed)

[brittle pewter]

Simply holding the ult button while doing your rot will mean you'll ult the second it's available

[brittle pewter]

basically this

[unique egret]

i wish we can just hold ult all the way without needing to let go

[turbid agate]

okok got it tysm 🙏 would you say 3+5 pyroath makes that much of a difference compared to just 3 ults? i haven't experimented around enough with her

[brittle pewter]

It's extremely noticable

[unique egret]

normal run u would just do 2s1e and get decent scores, slotting in 5 slash scales u higher

right now 33455 gives the highest score for this week i think

[brittle pewter]

33455?

[unique egret]

2s1e 2s1e 3s1e 5s 5s

[brittle pewter]

Oh I see

[unique egret]

but 33355 is good too

[brittle pewter]

I might try that

[unique egret]

for 3s1e need sss pyro if im not mistaken

timing is tighter than 5s

[brittle pewter]

So I gotta stick with 33355?

[unique egret]

ye better stick with 33355

[storm pasture]

wtf no nuke codes in my brick-help

wtfshit

[unique egret]

dont blame me, he asked in this chat instead of the holy sweat chat

[turbid agate]

wait you can get her on field 5 times? how?

[turbid agate]

should i have moved over to the meta chat? sorry i don't use discord much

[fierce shore]

[unique egret]

nanami sss

[red wing]

it doesn't really matter, both serve help purpose

[turbid agate]

nvm

[unique egret]

ah no worries, dont matter much

[pseudo harbor]

Below 3S Nana can 5 swap, just sacrifice some rotation times and don't reorder Lilith/Nana

[safe fossil]

Does anyone know what would be the upcoming Selena team ?

[proud jay]

that one

[tawny perch]

Ok just got luna's ss from ppc shop
Who should i prioritize next?
I have lilith ss too

[unique egret]

why ss luna first instead of ishmael?

[tawny perch]

Uhm 👉👈

[proud jay]

well, theres your answer

[tawny perch]

Oh yeah how many skulls can i get from the zone with forgotten bosses
Ultimate zone iirc

[ivory ermine]

Saving up skulls for the next S rank debut is also an option

[ivory ermine]

Outlier?

[proud jay]

ultimate zone only gives more than advanced if you get more than 1.5mil points
if you mean the outlier point (old bosses) that should be somewhere between 1.2k and 1.5k skulls

[ivory ermine]

Each of outlier bosses has achievement mission that you can complete by getting certain amount of score for the said bosses

Each bosses will give u 75 pain skulls after reaching 580.000 score total

Now just multiply that with all of the available bosses in the outlier

[unique egret]

9000 skulls

[keen vortex]

How to improve ( I know weapon is wrong don’t tell em about weapon)

[ivory ermine]

You are only left with weapon to upgrade i guess

Or higher rank

[keen vortex]

Yes

I’m tryna get to ss3

[unique egret]

using what

[fringe elbow]

To improve
You need to realise your bricked (you need teammates who work with her to make her functional btw)

But if you still wanna continue

use her sig

You get for free

Harmony it

[unique egret]

@ mods ban this guy, tosic chat

[livid tinsel]

is there any use to build the older S units like plume?

[unique egret]

nope

[fringe elbow]

Plume nah

[livid tinsel]

[ivory ermine]

Hey

Can you stop blaming people for playing?

You are literally one of the moderator

[tawny perch]

Yeahhh i meant outlier point
Tyyy
Should i get ishmael ss and then save or get startrail/lucid dreamer ss too?

[livid tinsel]

startrail is a really good unit so i honestly recommend getting her

[fringe elbow]

Look at what I said first and then blame me

I gave 2 options

[ivory ermine]

You are still threatening them

[brisk forge]

Sybau

[ivory ermine]

You are not helping that way

[fringe elbow]

That's a Threat?

Wow

[brisk forge]

They're good bro

[fringe elbow]

Then idk what isn't a Threat anymore

[brisk forge]

Literally not that deep

[keen vortex]

I’m using Ishmael, no21 and her (I’m missing nanami)

[fringe elbow]

Hmmm
Make sure Ishmael isn't holding Eins btw

Einsteina on Ishmael won't shred Lightning

[keen vortex]

They not

[ivory ermine]

"oh hey you choose the character you wanted, and now your account is bricked and by telling you this i will make you feel insecure with your experience playing the game "

[fringe elbow]

Good

[keen vortex]

I’m only level 90

[fringe elbow]

Make sure she's holding Heisen

[keen vortex]

I’m missing a bit

[fringe elbow]

She has sig?

[keen vortex]

I wanna see Ishmael?

[fringe elbow]

Yes sure

Send your Huaxu

[keen vortex]

I have memories but I’ll change eventually

This is just for nihil

[ivory ermine]

You could consider Ishmael after this

But Selena: Pianissimo debut is really close in the global server and she is definitely worth to consider from the fact that she is the main dps of physical element and the upcoming Glaciation effects

You might want to consider pain skulls for her first over Ishmael Parhelion

[tawny perch]

Hmm okiee tyy

[brisk forge]

You wanna use ticked for LD SS

[tawny perch]

Ld?

[ivory ermine]

Lucid Dreamer

[tawny perch]

Oh lucid dreamer

[ivory ermine]

Wanshi new frame

[twilit hare]

Im planning to get vera on the next patch, and then get pyroath on the free S rank construct. But then i realised she wont be there so im honestly thinking if i should just get pyroath and get epitaph on the free s rank and leave vera behind for a while. Whats the best choice? 😔🙏

[tawny perch]

Sorry im slow 🥀

[ivory ermine]

It is okay

No need to worry about it

[dapper onyx]

Pryroath is still a better choice if compared with vera..

[icy oracle]

Since karen isn’t retiring soon, should I just get her or wait more

[ivory ermine]

Considering i can not think of Pyroath rerun banner that will feature her with 100% drop, getting pyroath might be a challenge in this case and Geiravor would be easier to get because she is featured in Themed Event banner for 100% rate up

Getting Epitaph from the Free Selector and Geiravor from her debut banner would be safer route if you want to build a fire team

[brisk forge]

Don't get her

[ivory ermine]

You can also consider Dante from the upcoming DMC collab for a fire attacker

He can work as a fire attacker perfectly fine

[brisk forge]

Isn't the selector banner up to ish next patch????

[ivory ermine]

Obviously, Pyroath will perform better than him

But he is still a solid dps nonetheless

[ivory ermine]

It is not

You have likely to mix up several different selector

[brisk forge]

Okay

[fringe elbow]

Ok good good
If you are using her as lightning tank to solo with CW
Make her hold 4 Da Vinci 4 Heisen

While feral on 4 Guinevere 2 Einsteina

I'm sure you don't have sig for feral that's why

[ivory ermine]

Despite not retiring anytime soon, her perfomance is really awful if not built properly that will cost you to get her signature weapon and better rank.

Even Parhelion put in a Dark element team with full filing the circumstances needed to make her a dark element tank is a way better alternative in a case you do not have a dark tank for your dark team.

[brisk forge]

21 is very cute

[opaque prism]

Yo guys,can I give wanshi lucid dreamer with 4 Liston and 2 Chen ?

[vast robin]

Yeah this stage sucks

Even after obtaining all the data from devices it still shows me this like wtf am i supposed to do???

[ivory ermine]

Sure you can

[opaque prism]

I saw some people give him 2 einsteina instead

I don hv his sig

[ivory ermine]

That is also an option in a case you do have Qu: Shukra as the ice dps in the team and Lucid Dreamer as the Sub dps and tank in the game

[opaque prism]

I planning to get qu next patch

[ivory ermine]

If you do not have Qu: Shukra your option would be left with using Lucid Dreamer as a dps

And in that case he can use 2 Piece Chen Jiyuan instead

[brisk forge]

Click "log A" or go to he marked spot

[ivory ermine]

Well he would use Einsteina set then

[opaque prism]

So should I put 4 Liston and 2 einsteina

[ivory ermine]

So he can support Shukra as the Ice dps in the team