Anatomy Perspective Help

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CLEARLY Im missing something here that doesnt make the transition from the sides of the stomach to the waist natural

[buoyant citrus]

Feel like you made the body a little too long. The waist would be higher up where the rib cage ends

Abs are also too long. I’d move the pelvis higher

[radiant maple]

youre not using the box guidelines to their full potential

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Haven't drawn in 2 months due to some life stuff 💔

[radiant maple]

lwkey same

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As of right now im trying to pretty much draw what i currently know and then study what I'm struggling on

And apparently, boxes

[radiant maple]

I had amethod for studying perspective that worked really well but its really difficult to communicate it with text tho

essentially you would take the human form and cut it up into its most basic shapes, learn those shapes until its imprinted on the inside of your skull, then you can take one of those shapes, change the angle of perspective and try your best to replicate it.

and once youre confident in one major shape (for example the stomach) then you can move on to another shape.

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https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

Genius

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Man, drawing a woman is killing me

Cant seem to draw one both static and dynamic

They have slimmer bodies

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@radiant maple got any tips on how to draw hands holding something?

[carmine basin]

anatomy is best drawn with a lot of lines side by side and constant adjustment imo

You already have the base square stuff for hip and ribcage bones

I think its a more fo start with blocking in the torso then drawing seperate muscle groups

[radiant maple]

I'm not near my digital pencil rn, getting home from work. I'll help you out later (if I don't forget lol)

For now, I suggest you continue with the wrm and end it at the wrist, because a big part of hand movements is how it connects to the forearm.

You can just start a new demo later and mark out the muscle groups and it will help you understand how things connect to the joint.

[carmine basin]

Idk why but i find it much easier drawing in a more "dynamic" and messy way

after this point i would slightly lessen my pencil and readjust some areas to make it look more correct

But drawing abs and each pec of the chest seperately can lead to more room for error to me its like drawing a face but starting from detailed facial features first and then drawing the head etc etc

[radiant maple]

This is the method I use for portraits, much easier to get the basic shape by outlining the major shapes in a messy way, found it a bit too inconsistent for anatomical figures though.

[carmine basin]

i think it depends on the preferenve then because whether i do anatomy from memeory or from ref img i start from action like block in the ribcage and pelvis and then make lots of gesture like lines

[radiant maple]

I also prefer to start with motion of the body, instead of a static pose. Seems more natural to me.

[carmine basin]

oo nice o:

[carmine basin]

yea i try doing that but i have gaps in individual muscle groups though like how the calve is shaped or stuff like that so i cant draw realistic anatomy without ref but when it comes to drawing ppl in action im more familiar w it

ill try working on muscle groups

[radiant maple]

Low-key i struggled with the abs the most.

In my experience learning to draw hands was easier.

[carmine basin]

oh wow😭 never even tried drawing abs properly

[radiant maple]

It's a whole rabbit hole.

Just give every character an apron from now on lol

[carmine basin]

Only thing harder then that i can imagine is the back muscle xd

[radiant maple]

For me that wasn't too big of a deal, 2 major muscle groups + shoulders.

It's the muscle groups that overlap and move a lot that kill me.

[carmine basin]

i genuinely cant draw the back from memory at all so respect that

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@carmine basin @radiant maple about that, i set that aside for now to work on another drawing which is this

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Now that i think of it

Dont you guys think the right arm is too long while the left is too small?

I might be tripping or something but it looks like it

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Okay yeah im genuinely struggling 😭

[radiant maple]

What on specifically?

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The arms

The proportions looks off

[radiant maple]

U want a guide on proportions?

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I think i fixed it

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Figured out what to do with it but now i need to put on this guy's summer coat, those vest thingies

[dense trellis]

I had to laugh a moment, your messy way is in fact the proper way! Its a Gesture!! As said prior its used to identify large forms and shapes of a figure or form, then you refine and re-refine untill you find "the truth" , and thats the line you punch in. Based on your drawing you have a clear understading of that! nice.

[carmine basin]

Thanks a lot
I took anatomy drawing class in highschool so yea i was taught that approach from what i can remember
But yeah a gesture sketch and refine after approach works surprisingly well👍

[oak helm]

I work sooo much better with a gestural and less "technical" style

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Kinda got a gist of how to do gesture drawings

(im trash at it and never tried it again after trying it for a few times on drawing humans)

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Dang

I just realized my lineart isnt that

Great

[carmine basin]

Looks very clean to me

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Cant tell if its just the lineart or the coloring

[carmine basin]

Your lineart needs more variety in width and i the rendering is a bit bland imo

Experiment with more brushes and add stronger shadows light and mabe even texture

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I mean rn i have this

Really struggling

I mean i could just resort to watching a youtube video but like i need something that fits with my artstyle

[carmine basin]

Oooo this ones nice

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Thing is that im struggling big time on what to do next

[carmine basin]

use more blue ish shadows for the clothing

you can also create a light source mabe from the top and add more shadow

[carmine basin]

the rendering for this one looks better than the other one though

i would also reccomend possibly looking for brushes with more texture and adding hard shadows to some areas

[young holly]

The arm look unatural

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Might make this my rendering choice