Drawing Heads + Loomis Method

[lavish cairn]

I made this drawing today, and I need/want tips for improvement.
People have told me to study the Loomis method but I don't understand and/or enjoy it! I created my own "method" which I can share if wanted. But anyways, any tips?

--> I did the shading with a mechanical pencil(Stupid idea, lol). So simples tips for shading would help

--> I can not provide the reference image because the person I drew it not comfortable with it!

--> This drawing was made in a partial rush and I did not bother to take a screenshot and flip the image(to see the mistakes)

--> As for the tags, I do not know if I'm a beginner artist or an intermediate one...
I put intermediate because I have been drawing for a few years. But my artstyles/ways of drawing change daily

[dense hatch]

you don't really need loomis it's very technical i prefer simpler methods . here are the things u gotta improve first- 1.proportions 2. fixing the regular mistakes when drawing the proportions ; as for the method of constructing head i am gonna post it below

[lavish cairn]

Proportions as in the 3 3/4??

[dense hatch]

proportion in general

[lavish cairn]

Ok!

[lavish cairn]

You mean constructing a head as in the guidlines to drawing one?

[dense hatch]

yeah almost everyone uses to correctly draw proportions/maintain the actual ratio

[lavish cairn]

Oh yeaa

Even with stylized drawings

[dense hatch]

u just need a line/plane and circle to draw faces after you master it

[lavish cairn]

Faces make me question life. Whereas bodies are somehow easy

I understand the base of drawing a head(mostly cartoon artstyles) but the jaw, chin and rest confuse me

[dense hatch]

here's a simple one

[lavish cairn]

Ty!

Is that the loomis method or similar?

[dense hatch]

loomis is more complicated it's easier

[mossy wolf]

Is this not Loomis?

[lavish cairn]

Ohh

[dense hatch]

i studied loomis a long ago if i recall correctly its simplified form

[lavish cairn]

This was my "method" it's kind of similar, pls correct me in a few things/areas

[mossy wolf]

That's a Loomis head

It is definitely the best template for a head

[lavish cairn]

The gap between the jawline and line coming from ear is cheekbone/cheek, and the ear helps you place on of the chins sides and the jawline form there

[lavish cairn]

It seems more complicated, like as in, you'd spend hours perfecting the head? Or am i wrong

[mossy wolf]

It builds off itself so it really isn't very difficult

[lavish cairn]

Oh?

[mossy wolf]

You don't actually need to know the proportions to get it to be the right proportions with loomis

Usually

[dense hatch]

loomis includes 3d mechanics and planes of face i dont think my post is exactly loomis

[lavish cairn]

I have a question for spliting the face into 3 areas. Where do facial features go in those 3 areas?

[mossy wolf]

3d mechanics and planes of face?

I've never seen that

[dense hatch]

ya

[mossy wolf]

The top line is the brow line I believe and the middle line is bottom of nose the 3rd line is bottom of the chin

[lavish cairn]

Ty!

[mossy wolf]

And since they're always equal you don't have to guess at proportions

[lavish cairn]

Like this?

[lavish cairn]

Ohh yes!

[mossy wolf]

Yeah more or less, of course with different people and different proportions you would change it to match

[dense hatch]

here's the actual loomis

[mossy wolf]

Wtf is that 😭

[dense hatch]

it's the book written by loomis ig

[mossy wolf]

Oh you know what

That's like a properly explained version

Okay maybe

Then the one I sent must be a simplified version

[lavish cairn]

Exactly why i gave up on learning it💔

[mossy wolf]

I've watched a bunch of videos of the Loomis method and I've never seen it like that before

[dense hatch]

the axis mechanic is too hard for beginners

[lavish cairn]

Found this on pinterest

(The facial feature part is helpful)

[dense hatch]

this is the plane diagram many pros follow

[lavish cairn]

Is this a good way to draw heads?
(The lines are shaky, its 1AM dont judge me😔)

[lavish cairn]

....it went from a helmet to a face...?

[dense hatch]

use the simple one i provided

[lavish cairn]

Ok, but how do I know where the chin/jaw goes?

And like not everyone has super sharp jaws

[dense hatch]

everyone has same skull structure(in general) u just gotta add the connective tissue depending on the person

[lavish cairn]

Ok!

[outer light]

@lavish cairn you mentioned your own method? i'm curious what your approach is

[dense hatch]

here's the stuff u need

[lavish cairn]

Tyy!

[lavish cairn]

Ofc!

Also smth from last night:

[outer light]

so i do see a flaw with your current approach. it seems like the starting circle’s size changes depending on the angle you’re trying to draw. that might be making it harder for you to figure out where to attach the jaw

[lavish cairn]

I sort of understand. But i drew the circles in gallery(without a stylus) that may be why?

[outer light]

i’m leaning towards the probability that you may not be 100% sure what you’re drawing the circle for. i say this because what i imagine is your starting point (the circle) being different sizes means your other guides and landmarks will be affected if you are going based of that.

i agree with your distaste of the loomis method, but it may be worth studying. the learning process can be tough and unpleasant. and i deffo do not like to make all those measurements and guides. but it did help me to learn what guides work for me, and it also helped me learn how to have a consistent starting point

there’s another artist who has a similar method that might be more pleasant for you. Michael Hampton’s approach isn’t so convoluted

[lavish cairn]

Tysm!!
And i get what you're saying. Tbh I use the circle as a starting point, kinda where the brain would be

And also I feel like the loomis method may be worth it!

Thanks a lot:3

[lavish cairn]

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