side view help

[tardy jetty]

I need help. Can anyone teach me how to make proper side profiles? They always end up not looking like the actual character every time I try to do it. Im great with angles and perspective but side profiles really just mess me up.

Same thing with side profiles for the entire body.. although I don't really draw side profiles often it'd be nice to learn how to do so because I'll be opening commissions soon. ^_^

[steady orchid]

A piece of advice that has help me a lot is, when you have the front view of the character, draw horizontal lines to delimit all the facial features and then match the side profile to that. Also you need to adjust the neck and the back of the head because your side profile looks more like a 3/4 view than an actual side profile

Lemme give examples

[tardy jetty]

this is actually insane too because like

I can do side profile with reference traditionally

Im very much capable of drawing side profiles with references but the thing is

I don't have a reference for my own oc, I have to make it

Realism is usually my go to as well, but I can't really do much of it on digital.

[steady orchid]

So this drawing is horrendous but you get the idea. This is what I mean by tracing lines so the features match

Looks awesome!! Is that uh the German artist with controversial opinions?

[tardy jetty]

yyyyyes......

[tardy jetty]

Lines.. so many lines... dies.

😔

[steady orchid]

Interesting choice

[steady orchid]

True. I mean I wouldn't do that for every side profile drawing, but if you REALLY want the side profile to match the front (for example, for a reference sheet of your oc), I'd do that

[tardy jetty]

sighs.. but what about the body... 💔

[steady orchid]

Also about your side profiles @tardy jetty, I think u and op have the same problem. It doesn't look like a side profile, it looks slightly tilted to the front. But tbh I find that harder to do so the fact that u did it on accident deserves an applause

[tardy jetty]

😭 ITS ALWAYS THE LOW EFFORT DOODLES THAT GET IT GOOD

or maybe cuz I had a reference..

ok lemme try side profiling my persona now

[steady orchid]

Very quick tracing of a male side profile.
The main thing about your side profile ( @tardy jetty this goes to you too lmao) is that there is not enough space between the ear and the back of the head, and there is too much space between the eye and the bridge of the nose, which creates the illusion that the head is slightly tilted to the front instead of looking at the side

[steady orchid]

You improvise

Also notice how the neck meets the jawline at its middle more or less, while yours meets the jawline almost at the chin, which also gives the illusion that that's not a side profile

This is basically the angle y'all drew

[tardy jetty]

Mmmmm I love and hate this angle with all my might...

I draw this angle but I deviously tilt the nose at an awkward angle so I don't have to draw that angled eye 🫶

[steady orchid]

Based tbh

I was just pointing out the difference between that angle and a side profile in case you were aiming for the second

[tardy jetty]

Yo

Did I get it right?

I struggled on the hair and nose way too much

[plush terrace]

What race is he?

Side profiles change a lot depending on race.

[tardy jetty]

Filipino °^° I'm Filipino myself so I modeled him a lil after me

[plush terrace]

Right now he looks indigenous. But in your original drawing more asian?

Ohhh okay

[tardy jetty]

Pluh

[plush terrace]

I've never seen a philipino person so lemme search it

😭😭😭

[tardy jetty]

😭😭 WE'RE EVERYWHERE BRO

we usually have large noses for the most part

[plush terrace]

I live in the middle of nowhere white America 🥲

I haven't even seen a black person in months

[tardy jetty]

I finna cry I searched up Filipino side profile on Google and it had the most inaccurate bullshit I've ever seen

😢

[tardy jetty]

😔

[plush terrace]

Oh then idk if the advice I'd have given would be correct bur

I was going to say push the forehead in more

[tardy jetty]

tis okay, I need a lil work on the lips..

I hate side view lips. So badly. Especially when they're closed.

When they're open it's even worse because how do I draw a side profile laugh

😢...

[plush terrace]

Kakakak I love drawing side profile mouths! It's my favourite

[steady orchid]

Why did I realize just now that you are OP and not another commenter??💀

Bro I always confuse random people with OP and OP with random people, sorry for referring to you earlier as a different person than OP lmaooo

[plush terrace]

Idk if this is what he looks like

I tried as best as I could but again I've never seen anyone philipino. So idk how different it's supposed to look but

[steady orchid]

Looks super nice!! I would change a few things tho, can I draw over it?

[tardy jetty]

YESSS PLEASE.

[tardy jetty]

😭 yeah I thought youw ere confused too hb

[tardy jetty]

oh my gyatt thank you imma cry 💔💔💔💔

[steady orchid]

I forgot to mention what I changed

So basically I fixed the neck bc it was still not meeting the jawline at the middle and so it didn't completely look like a side view. I also make the hair go over the back of the neck. I moved the ear too to match the proportions of a side view and leave enough space at the back of the head, brought the eye and eyebrows forward (the eyebrows are important as they will be almost touching the end of the face or however you call that, because the eyebrow bone protrudes forward) and fixed the bridge of the nose to reflect the dent at eye level

Hope this helps!!