Critism please?

[frozen hound]

I think this is by far my best piece in terms of lineart. And a good place to be at 1.5 years in. However I want to continue improving so please give all you criticism for me.

[rough thicket]

It's very nice, although, you'd need to improve how the fabric overlap with the character's body

[vale bane]

What are their arms doing?

[atomic wigeon]

Looks really good for this artstyle, but one tiny thing you can add to boost the work is like weight to your line art

#1249217438374170654

There's some other things id change but they're not all too important, if you'd like to hear them lmk.

[half blade]

Looks nice!
A few improvements would be changing the chest as it does not follow the direction of the torso, because the whole body is pointi to the right and the chest looks as if it was looking straight at the viewer. The mouth should also be placed more to the right, even if it's stylized it could look better. And the clothing wrinkles are too much and look random, try to make them based on how clothing would wrap around the body in the different areas, and draw them mainly in areas where the clothing is folding and bending such as the armpits or where it's tucked in the skirt. In the chest it doesn't make sense to have that many wrinkles as clothing in that area is being pushed forward instead of folded. Hope it made sense lol

[half blade]

This is an example of how clothing folds work. Notice how there's only a crease on areas like the armpits, the waist or under the chest where fabric is being folded, but the chest area looks completely smooth because the fabric is being stretched outwards so no crease will form

And now that I'm looking at it, her left arm also looks odd, especially if thats meant to be the back of the hand, because the wrist can't bend that way. Did you use a reference for this??

[vale bane]

This work looks traced, the head looks too nice, but then the rest of the figure is oddly positioned especially with the left hand having the pinkie being on the left instead of the right. Prob ai trace

[half blade]

I don't think so, I think the head matches the level of the rest of the body because the head also looks slightly off. I think he just struggles with clothing and chose a difficult pose for the body. Maybe tried following a reference and didn't get it totally right

Also the hand is too detailed to be traced from ai, ai would do a meat mush

[vale bane]

I don't think AI struggles with hands anymore, not at least for an anime art style no? I've seen some recently and they arent terrible as they used to be. But it doesn't mean they could've just not traced the subtly of the hand mush

[topaz musk]

minor nitpick since people have already listed the major points
the gap in lineart for her chin doesnt line up with the other end

[frozen hound]

I got a timelapse if you want. it is not ai or traced it uses sevral refreneces which i probably should have creadited tho.

I also tried to fix the body after looking at more refrences and looking into tyipcal anime folds.

These are the lines and stars int he background since its a place holder. I just wanted a idea of how it would look otherwise it may become too crowded on the canvas and distract from the focus the girl.

[frozen hound]

Some anime and anime artist do that so I do as well. Its just a stylistic thing Im sure dosent bother peoplke to much.

[frozen hound]

Done this hope it looks better now

[frozen hound]

He right, Im so used to charecter in the void that most of the time their either standing up straight or thier legs are mostly off camera.

[half blade]

You mean I'm right or the guy I was replying to is right??

[frozen hound]

You

I dont trace and i try not to use the clip studio models for more than practice.

[half blade]

Oh nice

[half blade]

The main issues are still there tbh

The chest is an improvement but it should be even more firm bc it looks too saggy for a pose that is pushing the chest forward

The folds are still too much (even tho they make more sense now), and the arm is in a very weird and uncomfortable pose

But I like the fixes u made

[frozen hound]

The one on our right? (For the arm)

[half blade]

Can I draw over it and show u how I think it would look nicer?

[frozen hound]

Yeah sure

[half blade]

All the clothing folds. There are too much of them

[half blade]

this makes more sense because folds should only appear when the cloth is being creased, like when something bends inwards, and that doesnt really happen in the torso, because she is pushing it outwards

you can add more folds at the bottom where the fabric is being kinda pinched by the skirt, if u know what i mean, but everywhere else they were too much

specially because it looks a bit tight

i also touched up the skirt, the mouth and remade the arm. the arm looks horrible, i know, but its just to show more or less the idea

[hard sandal]

hi first time here didn’t know i was in this chat. my opinion..extend the face. fix the hand, bend the other arm in, put the subject higher so that you can add just a little more leg and skirt…overall, great job with the composition. you’re heading towards the right direction. keep going.

[atomic wigeon]

Looks much better, but if I were you I'd go over it with a slightly larger brush and add line weight specifically to where I want the viewer to look first, or where there is a lot of weight in the clothing

[little glacier]

Left hand looks odd also it has too many details compared to other part that it draws too much attention

Every time i try to look at her face her left hand is always pulling me to look at it

[frozen hound]

The arm leg and skirt is cause i didnt want to draw them/ tried to a failed so i cut them off. And I dont know what you mean by extend the face like vertically or horizontaly cause i thing her forehead is already to big.

[frozen hound]

How comes you redrew the hands and arms?

Are you suggesting i change them?

[half blade]

Her left arm definitely needs change tbh

[frozen hound]

Cause the back of the hand was showing so that she can show of the hand mark from the show

[hard sandal]

horizontal

[half blade]

I like that detail but the pose of the arm is physically impossible

You could try to do a pose in the mirror and reference it for the arm

[frozen hound]

The one on screen?

[hard sandal]

use yourself as reference

[half blade]

Yep

[hard sandal]

to get the arm

[half blade]

Exactly

[hard sandal]

it’s okay if you don’t want to do it but for it to be more…complete you’ll have to put the effort on doing what you don’t want to do

[frozen hound]

Maybe i'm double jointed cause I did the arm pose?

[hard sandal]

if you want to take a break and just practice arms, legs and hands it’ll help you get better in composition

hey thanks to you i’m going to draw today

[frozen hound]

I cant remember if i sent this before so ill wend it now this is the charecter in the drawing.

[frozen hound]

Yeah Anime skirts tend to be short for ... reasons and my autisic ass likes being as accurate to the show as possible so sorry if it looks... wierd.

Also I just reakised she has dots on her sleeves

[hard sandal]

the skirt is actually fine i would just add a little more thigh to the drawing

[frozen hound]

And that their not like jumper sleeves like in the games

shit

[hard sandal]

don’t forget the tism gives you powers

just look up tennis skirts and learn folds

they’re very IN now

[frozen hound]

Learn fold and anatomy are the too things i always get told

[hard sandal]

sounds like you’re heading towards the right direction

[frozen hound]

I treied anotomy and just got bored since I already do it in colledge

[hard sandal]

i’m teaching my siblings to draw and paint. what people don’t tell you is that

drawing is NOT fun

drawing becomes fun after you learn all the technical shit

[frozen hound]

Eh I got away with mostly natrual skill so far since im a shit study

[hard sandal]

yeah you’ll be bored (i’ve been there) but being stuck in the same place just bc you didn’t want to make small improvements isn’t favorable either

[frozen hound]

I just look up the stuff when i need it

[hard sandal]

that’s all you need just be consistent and sprinkle some knowledge like the anatomy of a hand or arm or somethigg

[frozen hound]

I know how muscles look since im a biology major its just drawing it thats a pain in the ass

[hard sandal]

like i said..drawing is NOT fun

good luck tho

[frozen hound]

Like i know about the three main muscles in the shoulder and how they look but making it look good is so hard.

[hard sandal]

cause you have to draw what you don’t see

foreshortening

you’re overthinking it

it happens

just have an anatomy book next to you to figure out what you need and break it down by lines n shapes

again i am no teacher i just…got experience

my goal this year is to draw portraits

anatomy is my strong suit

i can draw a body with no problem

my faces are kinda uhhhh busted LOL

[frozen hound]

Im shit with faces if you couldnt tell

[hard sandal]

yours looks better than mine (:

[frozen hound]

Im not gonna lie I think i think may faces are worse then they are

I just looked back at my porfolio and was shocked

Is this normal or am i just wierd?

[hard sandal]

it’s normal

ive looked back on things ive made and was like

i made that? wtf? wow i remember when i thought it sucked

then i think

if i was consistent

where would i be

but whatever idc about what ifs and what can be