Help With Shading/Lines

[glad cloak]

I drew a mouth, but the shading and lines are throwing me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

[scarlet tundra]

I think the lines are so flat they should be more round, like if they were on a circle and the shadow looks like no different in darkness, try to make the parts where the light hits lighter and the further is darker, preferably look for a reference of a mouth in shading

[glad cloak]

Thank you so much! I'll give that a go, and keep at it! I seriously appreciate it.

[scarlet tundra]

Ure welcome

I'm not good at all at drawing lips but I know a lil about shadows

[glad cloak]

Those actually are incredibly helpful! I'll use those to figure out the shading and lines for sure.

[scarlet tundra]

Good job

[glad cloak]

How's this? I tried to work on the shading some more and more detailing.

I think there's some improvement? 🤔 I'll keep drawing lips until I get them perfect. I'm too OCD about shit. Lmao!

[scarlet tundra]

They are better than last one

Try to draw a bit smaller ones like in the pic

What is Ur pencil hardness btw

[glad cloak]

Okay, can do! And I was using what they recommended in the tutorial. B, 3B, and 5B.

[scarlet tundra]

I see

Draw small ones and show me

[glad cloak]

I didn't draw small ones yet, but I will get to that! I had finished this one, though. Third attempt.

Someone suggested less teeth showing, so I gave that a go as well as making the shading a bit more visible as well as fixing the shading on the teeth. Per recommendations.

[scarlet tundra]

Great job!!

I have noticed smth in my drawing and urs

[scarlet tundra]

Look at this space, and in our drawings

We should make them closer

[scarlet tundra]

Also the lower lip looks more triangular widen it a lil

[scarlet tundra]

Lower lip always should be bigger than the upper one