help with fundamentals.

[honest shard]

i checked out a video sent previously in this channel and tried to do an animation with 3d space in mind, it isn't uh. good per se. but i wanna know if im on the right track

oops

didn't gif correctly

give me a sec

noticed i have 0 idea how to export a video from krita

gonna have to make do with obs

[vernal nebula]

Nice

But very little
Fundamentals actually implemented

What were you aiming for with this one?

[honest shard]

honestly? just rotating the cube around, added making it into a sphere at the end because i wanted to do more

i might suck....

[fossil pebble]

I would recommend taking Down the frame rate so we can see what’s going on a bit better

[vernal nebula]

No this is fine

[honest shard]

ok give me a second again

[vernal nebula]

Probably should be faster tbh

[vernal nebula]

I think rube rotations should probably be done statically first before dropping it

[honest shard]

yeah the og one is at 65%

[vernal nebula]

With a fall/bouncing ball, we’re looking for 2 things.

Slow fast.

[honest shard]

i thought it would be fun so i did it, became very clear that i need to do it statically first, thank you

[vernal nebula]

You know how to make things slow, you know how to make things faster right?

[fossil pebble]

It looks pretty good, the first couple flaws are that the cube’s lines are very scratchy which makes it kinda hard to tell what you’re looking at, also the speed is a bit off.

[honest shard]

i was thinking of incorporating the scratchiness into my future art style because i was born with messed up wrists and they're still messed up to this moment

i cannot draw straight for my life

[honest shard]

yeah, by adding more or less frames, right?

[vernal nebula]

Somewhat… but we can also think of it in spacing

How much space a subject moves each frame

[honest shard]

yeah i meant that, as in you use less frames for the same amount of movement therefore it appears faster

[vernal nebula]

So to make it slow, we need the subject to move only a little bit each frame.

And to make it fast, it needs to kove more

It’s probably the same result but its a way you can see it differently, anyways why is this important.

If I hold a cube, drop it, it’ll accelerate to the ground

Which means it needs to go from slow to fast.

So start with small movements, and then gradually increase the speed until it hits the ground.

[obtuse pebble]

im also a beginner but what helped me draw better and straighter lines were the first lessons of draw a box

[vernal nebula]

That’s the animation side of it, now for the rotation . Cube rotations are some of the trickiest things in animation, but they’re much more about perspective.

I’d recommend getting at least 3 point perspective down before animating it coz its rly rly complex.

[fossil pebble]

For something falling, I’d recommend this be it’s relative path.

Start slow, get faster, and then hit the ground and squash a bit.

[honest shard]

mhm, i was trying to build off the techniques in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcYTAiCQyQ since i saw it and thought it was helpful. i might need to practice earnestly instead of experimenting because things won't work out great otherwise for now

thank you a lot for all the help

[honest shard]

ok i sorta uh, suck at this for now, right path?

[vernal nebula]

Vanishing points

What are they, why do things converge

[honest shard]

alright do i look up vanishing points? because that is knowledge i lack

[vernal nebula]

Hehe that would gelp

[honest shard]

also i know that my spheres suck but the rest is uh

meh

better at least?

[vernal nebula]

The Simple idea is that

• as things go far away, it gets smaller.

Now imagine standing in the midle of train tracks and looking far

What you would see looking down the trzcks, is that The train tracks would converge into a point in the horizon

It vanishes in the horizon, The vanishing point

[honest shard]

i see, i get the idea

[vernal nebula]

Now the train tracks don’t actually touch at the end, they’re still perfectly parallel

But that gives us a guide, into how much things should converge

If you look at any parallel lines or objects irl, you would see a slight convergence

Anyways, there’s more to this and there are several videos out there about it

Just too much for me to type tbh lol

[honest shard]

true

[vernal nebula]

But searching up Perspective basics and stuff can be helpful

[honest shard]

can you tell me what you think i did right and what do you think i did wrong, so i can try reinforcing the good things and working on the bad

i know i didn't work on vanishing points but i want to know if there's anything further than that

ofc if it wouldn't bother you

[vernal nebula]

You’re drawing that’s great for me

Too many people focus too much on theory and never draw

For you though I would recommend doing a little more research

[honest shard]

ok, so i should research vanishing points, anything else i should research?

[vernal nebula]

You’ll likely end up learning about 1 point, 2 point and 3 point perspective.

3 point perspective would be a good goal to aim for.

[honest shard]

i see, thanks again

[vernal nebula]

Being able to draw a bunch of cubes and having it feel like it’s in the same image and not seperate floating entities, that’s another goal

Still, perspective learning differs from person to person. You may take a while, you may be very quick.

So keep at it and have fun :)

Mix in some fun stuff by drawing object in your room or doing whatever

[obtuse pebble]

honestly learning how to draw and rotate boxes in perspective is really helpful

at least thats what ive heard

then the next step could be cylinders or any 3d shape

Heres the video that I found to be the most helpful

https://youtu.be/qKqpGhTrmJM?si=3wXBbxRNnJxC3f_J

[honest shard]

here, i tried doing some basic 3 point stuff it might've not gone perfect because i freehand everything and i still don't have the hand eye coordination to accurately use my plug-in drawing tablet but i think i did something at least, i don't think i did it well in theory either though. one pic is with the squares hidden and the other shows the squares and the points (i looked it up and they told me to try using squares to guide myself for doing more angular structures)

[honest shard]

and now i'll work on this

it seems fun to do another animation of the cube just spinning even though it will NOT be good in terms of animation

[obtuse pebble]

just do what u like man

Honestly im finding a balance between what i like to draw and what i need to draw

[honest shard]

yeah, im mainly asking here because i want to show y'all my progress and ask if im on the right track (i've said this exact thing 3 times in this thread, i need to be more creative)

[obtuse pebble]

hahahaha dw

honestly im basically in the same path as u

i have some experience bc ive tried this shi out before but It didnt work out

really

after u see the video that I sent u

U Will be able to draw some things in perspective

[honest shard]

i've tried before but i never really tried to learn from other and more tried to figure out my own style, but of course that was when i was younger (14 or less)

so i think im new at learning but not really at art?

[obtuse pebble]

i could say the same

like ive always loved the art behind mangas and all that

thats the reason i started drawing

[honest shard]

i generally just love art, to be honest

almost all forms of it

[obtuse pebble]

even better, more inspiration

[honest shard]

music, sculptures, drawings, paintings, etc.

[obtuse pebble]

i recommend this but also not at the same time

a course named draw a box

its free but its extremely dense

[honest shard]

i see

might check it out

[obtuse pebble]

It was the reason as of why i stopped drawing

[obtuse pebble]

i saw u struggle with cubes and 3d shapes

[honest shard]

my artist's self esteem could not be lower so i don't think there'll really be an effect

[obtuse pebble]

so i would start with the video i just sent u

And from there learn 1,2,3 point perspective or at least how It works

And then start practicing

[honest shard]

alright! thanks! im gonna make that cube animation now

[obtuse pebble]

Oh trust me

It can get lower

[obtuse pebble]

aight cool i Will be waiting for it

also if u want some extra motivation

u can update this Channel every day bc i said u wanted to post ur progress

Like my art journey day 1

[honest shard]

sort of uh, got bored at one point and made it ouroboros

well not bored, more like confused

[obtuse pebble]

yeah so from what i see

you struggle with the perspective

so very simple

if u are looking from above

the cube appears to be shorter

meanwhile if u look from underneath

It Will look a bit bigger

the lines should always converge to the vanishing point

[honest shard]

true, though my intention was to rotate it in place, with it being a solid cube with no holes

[obtuse pebble]

yeah but it looked a bit wonky

[honest shard]

that might have been messed up by my uh, refusal to use a virtual ruler or a real ruler

[obtuse pebble]

no need to use it

remember that all the lines should converge

I looked at the animation and In some frames

some lines were just pointing away from each other

but thats ok

that comes with practice

[honest shard]

yeah i remembered just now, i was preoccupied just tracing the cube and rotating it while traced so it would take up the same amount of space

of course tracing it from the last onion layer

[obtuse pebble]

ohhh i see

well try it again

maybe u do It better now

[bright cloud]

cant really explain the fundamentals of animation in one message

u should lower the frames per second tho that cube is spinning way too fast

also the shape of thr cube remains very inconsistent thru the animation

[vernal nebula]

Alright give me a 1 point drawing, then 2 point then 3 point

The fundamental stuff might seem boring but they’re called fundamentals for a reason

[honest shard]

alright, i'll do that in a bit because my little brother's asking to do an animation in my pc

here's a retry of the cube thing, might have made it weird but i got the idea. i think.

[obtuse pebble]

Much better

but they still dont converge

It looks better tho for sure

[honest shard]

true but that's more of an issue of me eyeballing everything

[honest shard]

coming right up, one sec

rough but it's there

i do NOT draw well

yet

[bright cloud]

u cant just eyeball everything-

[honest shard]

i uh

do

should i not

makes it feel more lighthearted and free