potent spire
Im having issues on starting a drawing, I'll try to start, look at it and not like it, and than promptly give up. I don't think any of my work is good, and although I've got bright ideas and some kind of hope for the future I just cant see it being done with the way I do things. (Attached photo is me using my 100% pure creative freedom)
civic wagon
Hello
Just recovering from art block my slef
Try relearning some art stuff like anotomy or lighting casue that help me gain back my "fun ness of art"(hope it make sense)
potent spire
Hello
Just recovering from art block my slef
Try relearning some art stuff like...
How do I "relearn" though?
civic wagon
Rewarch some videos try some online classes ect
ancient iron
Hey man so if you think you have some great ideas but give up because you can draw it, it’s because you’re not familiar with what you’re drawing.
Drawing from imagination is fun and personally what I do a lot, but give yourself knowledge on what you’re drawing.
I forced myself to learn how to draw the human form and faces from angles by watching other people and their process, daily practice, and trying new things that’ll help me
potent spire
Hey man so if you think you have some great ideas but give up because you can dr...
I think this is more of an issue from outside of art, I have horrible self esteem and seeing people of younger age do 100x better than me really discourages me
I really feel like just quitting altogether because I’m not good enough.
I want to be able to be similar to the work I aspire to and I know that takes time but I hate how I’m not even a millionth there
noble summit
you could try to avoid the social media aspect of art and focus solely on improving.
ancient iron
I think this is more of an issue from outside of art, I have horrible self estee...
All artist think alike. You’re not alone but you have to remember to have fun
potent spire
But I don’t have fun I’m too busy thinking about how shit my art is.
ancient iron
I’m 20 struggling to find my style and trying to catch up to pros that started earlier or later than me
noble summit
But I don’t have fun I’m too busy thinking about how shit my art is.
you dont enjoy the process of making the art?
potent spire
you dont enjoy the process of making the art?
I don’t know.
I can’t remember
When it’s something I like and it’s working out yeah
ancient iron
Don’t compare yourself it’s your journey
potent spire
But that’s almost never
My aspirations are high but I do little to nothing to reach them.
ancient iron
I can’t draw everything I want so I just practice, sleep, and try again tmrw
I’m telling you, all artist think alike
My sister is the same exact way
You’re not at the level you want to be at but you’re at a point where you can work towards your goal
potent spire
You’re not at the level you want to be at but you’re at a point where you can wo...
My goal is quite high.
ancient iron
Dude
restive terrace
Try breaking it down into smaller more achievable goals. You'll feel better after accomplishing each sub goal
ancient iron
I want my painting to be framed in a museum, but I can’t have that yet so I have to keep practicing
Don’t let your mind control your process, let your hand and knowledge do the work
You just have to keep doing it
potent spire
I just can’t accept anything, and I’m too ignorant. I think it leads more into my mental problems than my art.
ancient iron
I’m the same way
But it won’t help if I sit on my ass pondering about the future of my art career
potent spire
I don’t know where to start
It was going swell
I saw improvement and now I’ve hit a ditch where nothing changes
restive terrace
I don’t know where to start
Start by identifying what you like and don't like about your art, but don't be emotional about it and be like everything sucks. Try and be objective and figure out what exactly should be improved first
It's gonna hurt but if you do it properly, you'll see improvement
potent spire
Start by identifying what you like and don't like about your art, but don't be e...
Well… that’s kinda hard for me… does anyone wanna gander?
restive terrace
We can help you identify your core weakness if you really can't tell
But the big trap is seeing your weaknesses and just falling into despair after looking at all of it
You gotta push on afterwards, I know it's tough
potent spire
This is my favorite piece, ironically it’s unfinished because I felt like I would only make it worse.
restive terrace
Sure thanks for sharing
For one thing, I see an emphasis on shapes but not so much on volume
noble summit
the composition is nice, it clearly leads my eyes towards the ceiling and the monsters face
restive terrace
Yeah perspective is not bad
potent spire
For one thing, I see an emphasis on shapes but not so much on volume
What exactly does that mean?
restive terrace
As in, you're not thinking enough about the depth of the forms
You're thinking in 2d compared to 3d
potent spire
oh
yeah I guess so
an issue I have is
bodies
any body
I cant draw bodies for shisa
restive terrace
There's unconfident lines as well
potent spire
There's unconfident lines as well
?
restive terrace
Like in general there is a bit of wobbliness which often comes from doing line art too slow
potent spire
oh.
restive terrace
So okay since this is just an example I won't go through everything but we've covered forms and line confidence
Now you have 2 goals that are a bit better defined
Compared to if you just think u need to make my art not suck
potent spire
The goal I aim for influences alot of how my work should be drawn
it's like im aiming for its style
restive terrace
Style comes after fundementals usually
ancient iron
^^
restive terrace
And is also pretty subjective
potent spire
Style comes after fundementals usually
I kinda dont do that.
potent spire
it's like im aiming for its style
the worst part is that its kinda... not easy? im kinda going for a hard style.
restive terrace
I kinda dont do that.
Well you can do both together but it can get overwhelming
I never really learnt hyperrealism but I know the basics of how realism works
potent spire
the worst part is that its kinda... not easy? im kinda going for a hard style.
The inspiration/influence, is Studio Trigger, especially their previous work, Gurren Lagann.
restive terrace
Oh i love gurren lagann
potent spire
But thats the issue for me.
Gurren Lagann' style is so complex and fluid that it's hard?
Well.
I mean
Something about Trigger gives me "polygonal" style feeling.
Which I try to acomplish my my drawings by using as little curves ass possible.
Kinda like Panty and Stocking.
restive terrace
Yea I can see that influence
The issue with trying to replicate a style without fundementals is that you might not be able to understand why or how things are stylised
potent spire
For instance on my recent drawing, Miku's shoulder is quite literally only like 5 lines.
I try to create my own style whilst trying to be like trigger.
another influence is Tatsuki Fujimoto.
IN GENERAL
restive terrace
But see, if you are only practicing a polygonal look, you will not hv a chance to practice curves
potent spire
I focus too much on how things look than how they are
restive terrace
You need a more, uh, holistic approach
potent spire
Idk what that word even means.
potent spire
So than...
restive terrace
Like for example if I play music, I shouldn't limit myself to 1 genre
Bcs that genre will only give me the opportunity to practice certain aspects of music more than others
Same for art, if you only practice 1 style you're only going to be able to draw that one style
If you want that then sure
But it gets pretty boring
potent spire
I also just like, cant draw by myself though. I always need something to go off of.
I cant draw a body without something showing me how.
But I cant do it myself.
restive terrace
That's alright if you need references
But again, not being able to draw without them indicates that your fundementals are still lacking in some way
Now back to art block, if you're getting satisfaction only by reaching your own standards, you have to adjust your standards
Not lower them but make them more achievable
Having a goal like I need to draw better is never going to be satisfying because you'll always change what better means
potent spire
than what?
restive terrace
Make targeted, well defined goals
Like, I need to improve my knowledge of facial anatomy
Or, Im going to practice line quality until it's not shaky
potent spire
but I dont wanna study 
restive terrace
Well you still have to put in the work if your goals are so high
Do you want to do it or not?
restive terrace
I can't help you with that
ancient iron
but I dont wanna study <:freesia:1290208948212858961>
Study
potent spire
Well.
restive terrace
I'm sorry but we're literally just text on a screen. We can't solve that kind of stuff
potent spire
Yeah I dont expect you guys too, thanks for the advice.
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I'll see if theres anything I can study on.
ancient iron
There’s always something to study
Artist who have taught classes or made books, still study and have a routine they can follow when they need it
When you wake up you’ll have something new that you learned from the day before, and even you’ll be able to draw something you couldn’t get the grasp of
If you can’t trust your ability to learn and keep trying, then art will most likely just be a hobby to you
You don’t have to treat it like a competitive sport, it’s supposed to be fun
Don’t get caught up in your feelings about your standards, look forward to making something new atleast
restive terrace
It's okay to just have it as a hobby too but you have to decide if that's what you want
I play guitar, that's my hobby and I don't expect anything out of it beyond just enjoying it for myself. I'm probably never going to be a pro and I'm okay with that
ancient iron
Please give yourself time too
restive terrace
Mhm professionals have drawn for decades
ancient iron
It won’t happen overnight or right away after finding a new approach, just give it time