struggle drawing girls

[flint tree]

So, I can draw guys really well and even developed my own style with them. But when it comes to girls, the eyes and face shape and etc look so weird and like I’m back at beginner level. I have tried tracing other artists work of girls and women fanart, and I can copy it just fine. But when I try to copy their style again in a pose I haven’t seen them draw in particular, it again looks weird for me. I have tried to fix the eyes and face shapes but drawing girls have not been my strong suit at all in my years of drawing 🫠 I’d love any tips and advice on how to combat this problem, which is ironic since I’m a girl myself

Head shape or anatomy itself??

[flint tree]

I mean I like stylizing things so head shape and overall face stylizing, with girls specifically lol

Okay I’m not the greatest expert but I’ll say from my experience/examples

I’ve studied realism before too so it doesn’t make sense to me that girls I struggle with

The shape should be more like an hourglass - usually you can draw a line c curve or s curve into the pose you’d like, and you build off from that - studying the anatomy of a skeleton is helpful too!!

For the head shape, the jawline isn’t as thick as a males

I’ll pull up some examples one sec

So I practiced anatomy but I sttted with the base skeleton

The end one

Last one*

Oh I have tried the anatomy method you just mentioned but it doesn’t work for me 😭 I don’t have a problem with female anatomy it’s just the face stylization
And okay! Thank you

[flint tree]

Oh I can help w face I’m so sorry

[flint tree]

First try w akseleton

Studying a skeleton is top priority because that’s the human anatomy

You can build once you have it

Remember that hips are the middle of your drawing!!

Okay I’ll try a skeleton

Thank you

Yw!!

Keep practicing them, and try regular head angles

Ears aligned with eyes and nose, mouth connected with the cupid bow

Yes I know that fact pretty well 😂 I draw guys a lot so I’ve become all too familiar with the golden ratio

It’s just girls faces I struggle to stylize regardless of me using all those anatomy tips lol

Realism with girls I do pretty well

Do you mind if you can send some of your work currently? I can try correcting here

[flint tree]

Ohh you want it in like an anime/stylized style

I’m a realistic drawer 😖😖

[astral timber]

Can I see one of your normal drawings just to see what advice??

[flint tree]

This is my style

I got lucky with her

Wait I love ur style

WDYM IT LOOKS GOOD HELP ME

[flint tree]

IM CRYING TJATS SO GOOD

My digital is a mess

But for some reason I can’t seem to get girls to look good when I try to draw them or use my other drawings for reference

[flint tree]

Lmao thank you so much!!!

[flint tree]

Okay NOW I can try helping

There’s barely anything I see wrong

Actually it looks rly good but

I just can’t get girls to look like the actual irl girls I want to draw lol

I’d say try softening the chin, make it more curved so it looks more natural + the ear looks a lil off and the hair wouldn’t be tucked into that angle

Actually I can’t even draw girls from imagination so there’s that

[flint tree]

Yeah I kinda traced the reference there and those 2 are my 6-7th try so I left the ear alone in frustration

[astral timber]

Alright, so this actually doesn’t look too bad, I think that’s just your brain telling you that. But I’d suggest making the chin and features a bit more soft

[flint tree]

I guess I could try doing that again

I think you should try again - believe in yourself!

We’re always in doubt but sometimes we need others to keep us onto the right track, I THINK my dms are always open so I’m always available

(I redownloaded discord today so I’m bad w the new settings$

You’re good 😭 I just struggle with “cutifying” girls and softening their features made it uglier than those 2 but I guesssss I’ll try again some other time

By the way I don’t do digital so I’m so sorry if I’m inexperienced but I am going off my traditional experience ☹️☹️

[flint tree]

Try curving the chin a bit maybe?? Like the left one

Although it looks cool stylized how you did it actually

[flint tree]

Dw most of the time I draw traditionally first to then translate it into digital!

Traditional for the win >> 😍😍

[astral timber]

Use the liquify also, if your chin is too sharp, it adjusts the line without actually having to redraw it

[flint tree]

See it doesn’t look like the girl I was trying to stylize 😭 that’s what makes me want to throw it away basically

[flint tree]

Ahh thank you!

[flint tree]

Is yours the first or second?

[astral timber]

Np, the liquify has come in clutch so many times for me

[flint tree]

It’s both mine lol they’re my 6th and 7th try at stylizing a girl I was looking at

[flint tree]

OHHHH Okok that makes more sense

Ya my digital is not it I just sent to check LOL

[flint tree]

I’d say keep going and try sketches

I do sketches all the time

I draw traditionally pretty often

Like Rough wips (I think that’s what it’s called?) online

Ohhhhh

Yeah I’ve tried that too 😭 im just hopeless with stylizing girls but I guess I can try softening features once more

Yes try softening it and resend how it’s looking

And try working the ear in

[flint tree]

Until I am satisfied with the face I am ignoring the ear 😅

Yup do it in your comfort

[sly gull]

same issue man

[flint tree]

Yep! a lot of people say to soften female features which is true but I don’t see it making a difference 🫠

[flint tree]

How’d it go

[flint tree]

Yeah i gave up already, stylizing women’s faces hasn’t worked for me & I’ve tried everything lol

Hm do you have any photos of your realism?

[flint tree]

No im not home where my old sketchbooks are either but I do know the basics of human anatomy, I don’t have issues with the anatomy. It’s just women, and stylizing their faces specifically. I already know the golden ratio rule for faces so no need for another proportions advice

Alright good - why don’t you practice realism instead? Styling will come

[flint tree]

Uhhh?- but I just told you I’ve already done realism and know the basics of anatomy and the golden ratio rule for faces…

I can stylize men it’s just women. Idk if it’ll come since I’ve tried for 2 years but I’ll see 🤷🏻‍♀️

[flint tree]

no I know like practice styling on paper

practice different eyes, shapes, noses, etc

I’ve done that for literally all my life before switching to digital

Try everything differently

And I still do that on paper

Ah im Sorry im Not a digital artist I may not be the best to help here 😭😭

I’m pretty sure I’ve already mentioned that I often draw on paper more than digital

[flint tree]

Yes I’m just tryna think of solutions

Thanks for your help but it’s not anything I don’t already know 😭 it’s just a personal problem so hopefully someone else who was in the same boat as me in the past can see this

[flint tree]

I think it may be art block as well

A bit of that at least

[flint tree]

Nope not at all, I’ve been drawing nonstop this past month

It’s really just a personal issue with women stylization

Thanks again for trying to help tho