what can i fix?

[timber inlet]

i'm looking for things to fix and add into this piece because i think it's a little flat. i will not add lineart!!

[tribal tinsel]

I mean theres little to no shading going on. Plus the hair looks like two blobs of hair with no actual variation especially the front. Plus the front really blends in with the skin

Without lineart its really down to how you handle colors and shading

Also i find it odd the eyes are fully colored when theres hair blocking some if not all of it

[timber inlet]

cause i still want the eyes to show up

i'll add more shading and darken the front hair though

[tribal tinsel]

You dont have to fully color them

You can keep lineart

But its weird to show eye color when its covered with hair even if theres lineart for the eyes

[timber inlet]

ok

[bitter heart]

I think the eyes look fine like that. I've seen all kinds of styles where they choose the eyes to appear under n I think it's cute. The only glaring problem is the lack of clarity between the bangs n the skin. You could get around this by adding shading Orr you could make the skin like more fleshy, Add a blush. Your whites are very similar!

[tribal tinsel]

Im saying like this i see as normal. Showing all colors through hair idk i just find it weird. Imo the eye lineart should blend in with the hair but still obviously being eyes

[timber inlet]

ok bro i get it i understand 😭🙏🏼

how's this

[tribal tinsel]

Try and make the hair be easily discernible for where it ends and skin begins. It all really blends into eachother

If i turn the saturation off it looks like it is one and the same and that the hair and skin aren’t supposed to be different

[timber inlet]

like this?

what should i add to make it easily distinguishable

[brazen pumice]

That line does help a lot, maybe adding the same color to the eyebrows as the eyes would better Show that theyre under the hair

[tribal tinsel]

I was more meaning make the value be visibly different between the bangs and skin

[rustic knoll]

yeah, you could try putting the same gradient that's on the bottom of the hair on the bangs too

[tribal tinsel]

Bangs are also way more yellow than the rest of the hair which i do find a little odd

[timber inlet]

cus it's a light

[timber inlet]

zlawg i can't do that that's the character design...

[timber inlet]

that's the shadow

[main berry]

Make her left eye invisible

[tribal tinsel]

Why cant you make the bangs darker?

[timber inlet]

because the bangs are lighter??

than the um

back hir

hair

and if i made it even darker it'd be the same color

basically

[tribal tinsel]

Like its actually dyed a different color?

[timber inlet]

yes?

it's not just a stylistic choice

[brazen pumice]

But why do the bangs need to be the same value as the skin? That’s the main question

[main berry]

Her hairline is kinda weird ngl her eyes are not even halfway up her head

Huge ass forehead

[brazen pumice]

It's gonna look blended together if they're so similar

[timber inlet]

cause that's the design choice the person who wanted me to make the drawing wanted?

[tribal tinsel]

I still feel you can make the bangs and skin visibly different

[main berry]

Fr

[tribal tinsel]

Even if you want the bangs lighter

Than the rest of the hair

[timber inlet]

well first of all it's a guy 😭 and also they are he just has big bangs

[main berry]

My bad

[timber inlet]

i mean i'll like try to darken it

[brazen pumice]

If you have a comissioner, shouldn't you be asking them how they feel about the hair?

[timber inlet]

like this dark?

[tribal tinsel]

Down by the skin

[timber inlet]

i did and they wanted the front hair to be pale like the slin?

skin*

[timber inlet]

huh...

darken the hair or darken the skin

[tribal tinsel]

It still can be darker but also pale

[brazen pumice]

I mean if that's what they want then give them skin colored hair

[timber inlet]

that's not what i said

[brazen pumice]

As long as the Client is happy, values and shit don't really matter

[tribal tinsel]

And when it comes to picking colors you should experiment with how to make the different colors be easy to tell where it begins and ends

[brazen pumice]

"They want the hair pale like the skin"
Ig there's a few ways to interpret that but it sounds like they want skin colored hair to me

[timber inlet]

this is as dark as i can get it without getting it to blend into the bakc hair

BCK

back

i'll prob lower the shading too

[brazen pumice]

The values are still really similar but I honestly don't think that matters

[timber inlet]

does it look better

[brazen pumice]

The goal was to make it less flat and that has definitely happened

[brazen pumice]

Oh yeah man

Justcompare to what you started with

The change is insane

[timber inlet]

teeheehee

thanks

[brazen pumice]

💀

Never send that again

But you're welcome

[tribal tinsel]

Yeah that sticker combined with that response is… interesting to say the least💀

[main berry]

Whoever drew that emoji is not seeing the pearly gates