questions-and-help

[daring basin]

Save ur life skill for Refines imo, as that is what will hold u back the most out of anything. That and Imagins

[pale kite]

Thank you!

[sullen bobcat]

<@&599291260301344768> ^

[hallow sedge]

kek they got another one

[meager pilot]

bro clicked on the egirl server invite

[hearty bison]

[idle saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-shooting-gif-8418996078338346483

[sullen bobcat]

ty doom

[outer heath]

ive been told the games on its dying breath how true is that statement?

[sullen bobcat]

honestly I have no idea

big incident just happened yesterday

[outer heath]

what happened?

[sullen bobcat]

game sent mail to players with 100$ of premium currency
removed those orbs from players asap, but many already spent the orbs
so they decided to make those players go into debt

[outer heath]

oh damn

[meager pilot]

aint nobody giving USDT

[sullen bobcat]

if you make a f2p go into debt, they aren't paying anyway so they won't care

if you make a low spender go into debt, they'll stop buying rose orbs at the least

I saw a few higher spenders getting mad at it too but idk how many that is in the total game

[outer heath]

i just want a new game to call home lol and i hear nothing but bad about anything with raids and gear grind

[sullen bobcat]

including, people who are f2p and didn't get to go into debt are now mad that they are a whole tier behind the f2p who did get to go into debt

[neon needle]

Gotta say if I got resources from an official in-game system and then got penalized for spending it, I'd be done. X'D

[meager pilot]

this game is great you should play

[sullen bobcat]

personally, I'm quitting
but the game is great

it's just managed poorly in global, but that's not the devs doing

[meager pilot]

^

[neon needle]

Global is terrible.

[outer heath]

ok well seems like its doing terribly i guess i can look elsewhere

[sullen bobcat]

it depends on why you wanna play really

[neon needle]

China, possibly SEA, great.

[sullen bobcat]

for the reasons I want to play, there's no better game

[outer heath]

wanna do raids, dungeons, gear grind etc etc

[sullen bobcat]

mm yeah this game is just okay for that

[outer heath]

im a destiny orphan so its been kinda painful

[sullen bobcat]

seasonal so you don't really keep a lot of stuff

so far there's been 6 dungeons per season at 3 difficulty levels, but they aren't really that hard (aside from wallet check)

raids have been getting better but also just a wallet check

day 1 f2p or people hard chasing the meta can probably compete in the higher tier stuff but otherwise it's kinda eh

[outer heath]

wallet check meaning i gotta whale to even do content?

[sullen bobcat]

^

[meager pilot]

the hardest part about the raids is getting 20 idiots in a room to stand in the right spots

[sullen bobcat]

though in s3 I heard it's "much more balanced"

[sullen bobcat]

on god

[sullen bobcat]

whether this stays true in global is to be seen

[pure nacelle]

idk wallet check isnt even that bad

[sullen bobcat]

personally I liked to take pictures and generally play as my character, the combat is very fun too

[pure nacelle]

it depends on how you frame the game tbh

[sullen bobcat]

like I said for day 1 f2p who don't chase cosmetics, or hard chasing meta

then it's fine

[pure nacelle]

no I mean like, a single T5 imagine + purple is more than enough to get you into M17s

[outer heath]

whats m17?

[pure nacelle]

and even less if your team compensates

uh so dungeons scale

[sullen bobcat]

oh I wasn't saying for m16-17

I mean higher tier stuff

m20

[pure nacelle]

you have normal > hard > Master 1 -> 20 dungeons

[sullen bobcat]

I think everyone should be able to beat m17s aside from DoD and snake with 2 purples

[outer heath]

so you said imagines thats the summons right?

[pure nacelle]

basically the same dungeon with just harder mechs / hp scaling / damage scaling

[sullen bobcat]

yes

[outer heath]

so is that what the end game grind is, getting better imagines or does gear still play a role

[sullen bobcat]

it's the long term progression

[pure nacelle]

end game grind is just maxing imagines; gear is seasonal

you throw away gear every season

[sullen bobcat]

it's not even a "grind" because you can't grind it

you do like 5 things per week and you're done until the next

[pure nacelle]

its more of a daily checkin for sure yeah

its pretty time gated grind

[outer heath]

hmmm ok

[sullen bobcat]

you can grind the dungeon gear

but they are also making it easier

so idk

[pure nacelle]

thye might or may not adjust how imagines are obtained and the grind factor

it does seem like to be a popular thing for discussion these days & bpsr is still pretty young

[outer heath]

so whats the point in raids is it just for imagines?

[pure nacelle]

so uh

i guess the season goes like this

[sullen bobcat]

raids gives special gear

[outer heath]

😍

[sullen bobcat]

set bonus with a good effect on some classes and a completely mediocre effect on others

a bit of increased stats otherwise

but once you have the gear, no point in raiding

it's time gated too, can only raid once a week

[novel remnant]

but you'll be throwing away that gear like a month after you're done grinding it

[sullen bobcat]

can't catch up if you miss a week

which is my biggest complaint

well

one of my many biggest complaints

I'm so done...

[outer heath]

o.... so its completely pointless to do them basically

[pure nacelle]

Normal Dungeons > Hard Dungeons + first Raid difficulty (for first raid set)
you then progress into the next tier

M1 for farming upgraded gear
Second raid difficulty releases along side M1->M5, so you complete your second raid set
M2->M5 (M5 being the first challenge in the season where you put your gear against a score grind)

M6 for farming last cycle of gear + Nightmare raid are the last cycle of the season
Then you score push as high as you can, up to M20s.

Raids & Dungeons are pretty tied together as the gameplay cycle

[novel remnant]

honestly, everything is pointless in this game unless you think it's fun, then it totally has a point. But the gear treadmill in this game is very fast. Once you get BiS you're right back to farming again.

[pure nacelle]

but if score pushing isn't a thing you enjoy, then you can just do raids for fun with a group you like

call it a season, play next game until new season

[outer heath]

ok that all makes sense, seems like it wont be something for me

[sullen bobcat]

have fun with whatever you do find

[pure nacelle]

yeah its a pretty seasonal game

[outer heath]

im also a dad of 3 so i dont have time to hard grind week in day out

[pure nacelle]

this game is actually

really good for low grind players

[novel remnant]

well in season 3 the gear farming will be much easier

[pure nacelle]

there's no reason to farm BIS if your goals are set low

[novel remnant]

you really won't have to grind that much

[pure nacelle]

and even then, season 3 is seeing a lot of revamp to gear farming to reduce grind by introducing different avenues to improving gear

[outer heath]

my favourite thing is doing raids and hard content for the prestige items for example in destiny i would attempt day 1's hard modes etc etc

that in game flex kind of thing

[sullen bobcat]

yeah day 1 raids are just wallet check or day 1 players

[pure nacelle]

yeah in terms of prestige items, rn the prestige comes from clearing m15/16 and having a high enough master score, which implies you've done all of the gameplay required

[novel remnant]

oh there's no prestige items for doing raid. only gear that you will end up replacing.

have you tried Warframe? seems like a more sensible game to switch to after Destiny.

[outer heath]

played warframe for years alongside destiny issue is absolutely 0 end game

[novel remnant]

this game has even less endgame than Warframe

[outer heath]

oh god nvm then lol

[pure nacelle]

yeah no endgame, we just play for season end

[outer heath]

thanks for your insights guys 100% helpful

[pure nacelle]

and then repeat

and then just jerk on the dps meters

[novel remnant]

have you tried FFXIV? the free trial got or is getting expanded to include the base game and the first 3 expansions. A lot of prestige items from raids because armor and weapons can be used as skins, and also prestige titles from doing stuff like ultimate raids.

oh and mounts from savage raids are very prestigous

[outer heath]

did all of that yeah

[novel remnant]

ah okie lol

[outer heath]

been playing that since original ff14

[sullen bobcat]

Have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV that has-

[novel remnant]

if Blue Protocol had more meaningful content to grind then it might scratch your itch but i dunno if they're gonna figure out how to do that ever

however, it's free so there's no harm in just trying it out

[sullen bobcat]

only content to grind is line 1 asterleeds

[novel remnant]

[sullen bobcat]

I think the game shines the most in the character creator and combat feel

I still haven't found an mmo with either of those as much as I liked bpsr

[novel remnant]

yeah, combat is very fun and i love my character

[sullen bobcat]

and if there is a really good character creator out there, I won't find it cause it's not gonna be anime style

[novel remnant]

Phantasy Star Online 2 has an amazing character creator. I played when it first released but there was literally nothing to do at endgame and then i never went back.

[sullen bobcat]

I liked the character creator a little less than bpsr

it gave a lot more freedom in some aspects, but what I really care about is the hair and eyes

which... is not very good in pso2...

and the combat is bad

[novel remnant]

you thought BSPR is better than THIS?

[sullen bobcat]

what the hell

[novel remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/phantasy-pso2-booty-dance-drop-gif-22402170

[sullen bobcat]

😭

[pure nacelle]

OKAY EYES RUINED

enough maincord for the day

[candid quest]

Bleach

[sullen bobcat]

I forgot what I made my character look like

actually wasn't too bad

just not close enough to what I wanted

but the main thing was combat, and I heard game was already dead so no point in playing

well I was trying pso2ngs

but I want a rotation

[novel remnant]

i thought the combat was pretty fun bit BPSR is better

[sullen bobcat]

I mean it was nice and flashy but I could just go play swapslop

[novel remnant]

oh yeah i forgot there were two PSO2 games. I only played NGS

[sullen bobcat]

oh ok

I only tried ngs

I might try it again

I couldn't warrant having that and bpsr installed, filesize too big

[novel remnant]

the game was also poorly optimized and i didn't have in on my ssd

[worn hearth]

help, should i claim this?

seems legit

[nocturne shoal]

Do it

[hallow sedge]

legit, i asked frankieee to send that to you

[worn hearth]

[neon needle]

don't spend those :x

(points to feedback)

[next goblet]

Did it go negative or

[shut harness]

yes claim it

[vivid spade]

Asking: for those who got -8165, whats gonna happen to them? Did they get banned if they didnt pay it back or?

[safe cliff]

no one's getting banned over this

either the negative balance stays or there's going to be some more comprehensive individual account revert thing some mods seem to be implying

I wouldn't necessarily hold my breath for the latter though

[vivid spade]

I see, but what if they spent it on consign?

Im from SEA server, just wonderin what would happen next

[safe cliff]

still the above 2 possibilities - they either keep the consigned luno + negative balance, or maybe APLUS eventually has a revert solution

[vivid spade]

I see, having the player get their -8165 is kinda schmuck thing to do right? Shoudn't it be the dev's accountability?

[safe cliff]

players only get -8165 if they spent the orbs

otherwise nothing happened

[next goblet]

If they revert luno but u bought serum and food with it

How they gonna revert that 🤣

[safe cliff]

this is exactly why I'm skeptical of their mods toying with the idea that they can individually revert accounts at this point

it's such a complicated mess to revert now

[drowsy atlas]

Negative luno

[vivid spade]

I think the devs should just take their loss over in game currency, no?

[drowsy atlas]

🤓

[vivid spade]

Why bother -8165 their players

[next goblet]

For every luno spent -8165 🤣

[safe cliff]

personally I don't think so, because this benefits people with tons of alts

[drowsy atlas]

On steam chart plauer base peaked at 810 before the reset

So im going to say that there was a total of 1600 players ingame

Maybe a bit less

That claimed it

[vivid spade]

Even so.. making their player pay for the devs mistake isnt a good look either

[safe cliff]

I think the players are paying for the orbs they spent. And even then, some players may never pay and happily sit with a negative balance instead.

[safe cliff]

yeah, the problem isn't that only 1600 got the 8165 orbs. It's that if they let those people have the orbs, then everyone has to have the orbs. So that's the entire player population + all their alts.

[drowsy atlas]

Ah, im on the side that the orbs being removed is fine

So dw

[vivid spade]

Ig

Just dont ban the people that have their -8165 cz afaik mihoyo ban their players if they didnt pay up the - balance

[safe cliff]

yep, banning would be a really stupid move

that's more for negative balance from chargeback though

[vivid spade]

Yea

As long as they didnt ban the players im good

Frankiee gonna get the heat 🤣

[safe cliff]

frankieee is hiding from the pitchfork mobs now

[ornate otter]

anybody know which mpkg or file(#) is needed for the custom img since recent maintenace, its not m79 or m91 or file180

[silk sluice]

that sounds like something they would do for ppl that charged back or things like that...

[silk sluice]

someone with a brain!

not to mention crash the market

[pure nacelle]

Different scenario; bpsr does ban players for charging back with negative balance > ban; and mihoyo does the same for charge back scenarios.

[silk sluice]

not all players in game claimed it.. also, not all players that claimed used it

[pure nacelle]

There's a few mods here who said that bans for negative balance are not going to happen (or very unlikely) if its due to this issue

[silk sluice]

I mean, if they ban for that, that would be ultimate stupidity, but who knows

as Cows said, some will gladly sit negative for the rest of time... while others may recover slowly or quickly... that is all up to them

[pure nacelle]

pretty much

[silk sluice]

I just dont get how some ppl seem to think this reversal of orbs impacted NEGATIVELY anyone that claimed/used them

[pure nacelle]

exactly

idk

salty mindset

crybabies

"wish i could've abused this too"

eh

The real legitimate concern is just the failure of A+ handling the situation with regards to communications

[silk sluice]

yep

they shouldve said something by now, apologize, give some sort of explanation

but oh well

[pure nacelle]

idk the amount of feedback targetted at "rose orbs"

and nothing else is uh

player priorities I guess

[silk sluice]

i hope they send something in-game too.. because relying only on comms via discord is really dumb

not all players are on discord x.x

[next goblet]

Game is suck

[pure nacelle]

Game is pretty chill unironically

as a side game it's enjoyable

[silk sluice]

too bad i dont have a core one to have this as side 🤣

[pure nacelle]

and there's depth to building as well (ofc flaws exist aka imagine system being garbage)

[silk sluice]

but agree, for a casual game, its pretty decent

[pure nacelle]

but if you put aside the competitive aspect of dps meter parse brains

pretty chill game

[dawn trail]

ya i agree, its a pretty chill side game. you can be somewhat competitive while spending little time in the game

also idk why theres so many players complaining about the 8k orbs as if they think the game owes them it

[daring basin]

People saying they are gonna sue APlus for negative orbs has to be the funniest thing I have read

[jade blaze]

What does "luck" attribute mean? Is it entirely separated from crit?

[uncut remnant]

this is awkward question, but im curious, What dps class is still considered good as f2p (using 2 purple imagine T5) ?

[daring basin]

Yes Luck and Crit are different

[daring basin]

Hmm, this season Icicle is the best class, so I imagine it is good with purples also. But next season they all change due to balance changes

Moonblade has been consisitent through all season and a top performer

Beam is meant to be good next season also

[uncut remnant]

i see, i just want to know if new people just start next season can handle enough to consider as 'Dps' even with purple imagine

okay okay, thankyou

[daring basin]

Hmm, I think purple imagines are fine, a Gold T3 is = to a Purple T5 on most aspects

If u are starting new, only build 1x Gold Imagin at a time and get it to T5 before u start the 2nd one

[nocturne shoal]

Wildpack on Emerald Caprahorn and Muku Scout

People who start new can get a t3 gold imagine pretty fast the reclaim hub I think

[languid furnace]

Is frost assault stronger than continuous stream for bossing?

[hallow sedge]

yes

[languid furnace]

Thanks for reaching back with an answer :D

[autumn glacier]

Uhm, we tryed to do S1 NM Dragons just now and the challange screen showed we alrdy did them as we didnt got items for it, but we sure didnt do them this week D: So no stellar for us poor f2p :/ has anyone else this problem?

[umbral lintel]

Do it again and open the chest

Otherwise do nm s2 raids

[autumn glacier]

Welp, we did open chest and i wasnt only one ~ but oh well guess nm s2 but thx

[dim axle]

How does one reclaim the Homestead Property? I would've expected it to either be the Osric NPC or via the Homestead menu but neither have the option.

[daring basin]

H to go into the edit menu and pick stuff up

[dim axle]

Are you saying I have to pick everything up before I can leave my Homestead for a different Homestead?

[daring basin]

Oh leave for a new one?

Now u can just leave

and join a new one

Anything u make, is urs. In any homestead

[dim axle]

I don't have the option anywhere as I mentioned.

[daring basin]

For what?

[dim axle]

To reclaim the Homestead.

[daring basin]

Wdym reclaim homestead?

[dim axle]

Trying to leave my homestead and then join friends homestead, they are their own host, we have level 5 friendship.

Is there maybe a cooldown after I terminate a roommate? The roommate accepted the termination within 24 hours rather than it going through the 7 day count.

[umbral lintel]

<@&599291260301344768>

[cinder beacon]

bro

[burnt osprey]

Bro

[idle saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-shooting-gif-8418996078338346483

[burnt osprey]

[dim axle]

finally worked after a while

[hearty bison]

bro

[pale kite]

How many chapters are in seasons 2?

[pure nacelle]

[errant monolith]

Mods 💔

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

[meager finch]

<@&599291260301344768>

[main latch]

iirc was 4?

[pale kite]

I think so. just finished it I think? The MSQ icon says to be continued now.

[main latch]

yeah should be finished then

[pale kite]

Sweet. Did you have to finsh the season 2 story to progress with season 3? Im assuming yes

[pure nacelle]

nope

[timber warren]

max range of lv 160 aspd(purple line)?

does it go up from 2%(lv 140)?

[jade blaze]

If you dismantle a perfected gear, will the materials be returned?

[pure nacelle]

outside of embeds yes

all reforges, even the ones used to reroll the reforge lines, will be returned

it will also return all craft materials if it is a raid piece

[jade blaze]

Oh sweet, thx!

[twilit stirrup]

Hello anyone knows how many days till returner get the sprout icon?

[sullen bobcat]

I believe it's 30 days of inactivity

[alpine needle]

Can someone please tell me how to change your namecard to a custom image?

[raven arch]

Its not loading...

[last inlet]

been an issue on mobile ever since they patch something when they're fixing the lines

[scenic grail]

how many days of inactivity to be returnee/having leaf ?
oh wait someone asked it kek

[timber lantern]

Not recommended cause there is a 50-50 chance you acc get banned

[tiny panther]

wouldn't say 50/50

way less than that

[umbral lintel]

Way way less

If you spent money, even less so

They only care if it’s nsfw

[tiny panther]

do you get put in the category of people who spent money if you spent 4.99$

😔

[umbral lintel]

Probably not

[tiny panther]

goddamit

[umbral lintel]

😂

Maybe if you bought the monthly pass/battle pass every month

[alpine needle]

I know, I don't mind, just want to know how to do it

[tiny panther]

psst

dms

[uncut remnant]

how to get this weapon skin?

cant search

[vague thistle]

not available

has never been unlockable either as of now

CN doesn't have it either lol

[high storm]

always wanted that skin too ;a;

[timber lantern]

Orobo weapons aren't available

I do admit the oboro lance looks lil out of all

[high storm]

i dont like any of the bow skins we currently have

s1 dung skin is oki, if only we could dye it

[timber lantern]

Voidborn series is the best in my opinion and yes bow skins are somewhat dogshit

[solemn bough]

did they do anything about the 8k rose orbs incident?

[hallow sedge]

<@&599291260301344768>

[pastel eagle]

Ty

[distant lynx]

When upgrading a guild to level 2, I am in the Guild Center, but clicking "Upgrade" says: "The target map cannot be viewed in the scene". The Upgrade UI has checkmarks for Guild EXP., Guild Fund, and Buildings. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[tardy frigate]

does any1 know whether gear refinement after lvl 30, it still use the same mats for upgrade.

[unborn dagger]

Stops at lvl 30 in s3

So have to wait for s4 before we get new info

[coarse rain]

Is slumber dream valley event gonna be here through s3 as well? Like does it make any sense saving the remnant and crystals?

[manic matrix]

Slumberdream will go away in S3

[stray knot]

any of you know which mat, key boss that we can do on day 1 drop?

of the season 3

[jade blaze]

Did I miss anything or why can't I equip this thing I bought?

[umbral lintel]

You checked your personal page? You equip the profile card cosmetic there

[potent aspen]

I have a silly question. I'm not going to have access to my steam for a few days. If I download the PC version (without steam) and log in with my A Plus account, will the character be there, or will it force me to make a new one? Are the accounts linked together or not really?

[thorny moss]

itll be there too

[grim dome]

With the new gear modifications how do we get higher stat%?

[umbral lintel]

Wym? Just keep rerolling the purple line until it’s at max %

[grim dome]

So does reroll change the % or is it depending on what it already started with?

If not i now have to farm for materials to reroll instead of the gear?

[umbral lintel]

Actually no wait. I think I misremembered. So it needs mats to change to your preferred purple line and it needs additional mats to upgrade the stat.

From what I can tell, it uses the refine mats to do this

[grim dome]

thanks!

[tardy arch]

Anyone know if stimen vault ends early cause of s3?

[next goblet]

Don’t think so it will reset on Monday as usual

Like after s3 release it will reset on Monday probably

[dawn trail]

it's may 18-may 27(mon - wed) and may 28 - june 7 (thurs- sun) then resumes back to normal

[umbral grove]

when the controler support

[next fulcrum]

1. Is it not possible to trade purchased items between characters - even if those characters are on the same account?

2. Could it ever be made possible to transfer a character to a different account? (I only found out recently after switching from mobile to PC, that I can't sign in with two characters at the same time if they're on the same account, so one can farm while I play the other, which I guess everyone else has been doing this whole time, but I don't want to start over, for obvious reasons...)

3. Why did the people who used the unbound rose orbs allowed to keep their stuff? It feels so unfair. Aniimo is being released soon and I will probably just leave bpsr if this isn't resolved more fairly by then cause it sucks to log in every day and see everyone who got their free costumes and/or converted it to unbound luno for progression boost, while I paid for a few items cause I wanted to support the game. Feels like the people who have spent money so far are being punished and the ones who used the free orbs get to keep their stuff, even if they are f2p players. If it had been a gift for everyone, as someone who has spent on this game before, I would have been more motivated to continue to support this game in the future even with it's many other problems. But I'm extremely demotivated now and feel more like quitting.

Don't know where else to post this since I don't normally use the game discord so...

[umbral lintel]

1. No
2. Currently no and I doubt they have the technical know how to enable such a feature.
3. No clue. They apparently chose the worst option on how to handle the 8k orbs issue. Those who spent the orbs currently have the amount deducted with many going into negatives. This doesn’t really affect f2p since they were never gonna top up in the first place.

[sullen bobcat]

1. you can trade between characters using the trading center, items have a certain time before they go up on the market after being setup
   they get taken off the market after 24 hours, so if you want to buy a minimum price item from yourself, wait about 24 hours (but no later) and then buy the item

2. and 3. are what the other person said

[umbral lintel]

I think they’re talking about purchased cosmetics being able to be shared between characters

[sullen bobcat]

oh

[umbral lintel]

Which can’t be done once the box is open

[sullen bobcat]

in that case no

gg

[umbral lintel]

Kinda weird though. Maplestory solved this didn’t they? And it’s like a 20 year old game lol

Same reason why we can’t change genders either.

Since each version counts as a separate cosmetic in their system

[sullen bobcat]

yeah

[rich sonnet]

fellow aniimo enjoyer 👋

[next fulcrum]

Yep

[next fulcrum]

Yay! I'll probably see you there when it officially releases!

[rich sonnet]

aka MinMax on their official discord. im sure you'll see me lol

[next fulcrum]

I never really took advantage of discord before but starting to see it's usefulness - I'll say hi if I see u there later!

[sullen bobcat]

what is aniimo?

[buoyant crescent]

<@&599291260301344768>

[tardy frigate]

Oh no, bought extra mats for upgrading stuff beyond 30

[unborn dagger]

u can still use it for this

[rich sonnet]

what pokemon should of been in 2026 lol. not the discord to talk about it though. you can dm me if your curious

[sullen bobcat]

ah

[sullen bobcat]

would be really unfortunate if they
if they made raid gear really good so that every class would want 6pc

[unborn dagger]

its already unfortunate that it costs refine materials

[sullen bobcat]

yeah

[unborn dagger]

i wouldnt use it unless i was extremely desperate

[sullen bobcat]

I would 100% use it

only 50 mats

[unborn dagger]

its about 100k

[sullen bobcat]

luno?

[unborn dagger]

id rather just put it into refines

yeah

[sullen bobcat]

yeah that's not too bad

you can make 1m a week easy

[unborn dagger]

😔 i wish i was that goated

[sullen bobcat]

not right now cause market is kill

but

540k just from focus alone

then any other sellable material you drop from killing bosses, stimen, unstables, etc

if you're bad at using focus it'll be more like 360k per week from focus

either way, I don't think it's all that expensive

[muted berry]

Guys does anyone know the charavters fully dissapear or not in starland like boyce and rorola? I took picture with boyce and he dissapeared, I thought I could take more picture kater before event ends

[next goblet]

How u make 1M a week

[deep nacelle]

if you sell all the starforge crystal may be possible

[next goblet]

Like 350k a week understandable

1M is a bit extreme lol

[deep nacelle]

14 key a week for elite and boss

with chance to drop starforge and other material to sell

[umbral lintel]

no way you make 1 mil a week 😩

[deep nacelle]

only with that

even so really luck base

[umbral lintel]

starforge doesnt sell unless you use an alt

[sullen bobcat]

360k per week from focus is a low amount

[deep nacelle]

yup he is probably counting that

[umbral lintel]

refine mat market crashed. getting 187 luno an ore now

getting about 40k a day. times that by 7 and thats 280k

guild cargo is whatever. most of the time i dont get the full 18k unless fish is involved

[sullen bobcat]

well yeah don't sell the worst things on the market

[tardy frigate]

cool thanks

[umbral lintel]

what do you use focus on then?

[deep nacelle]

there isnt really good thing now

mabye botany dunno

[sullen bobcat]

last I checked it was one of the botany materials is worth 120lpf

but I last checked 3 days ago so I'm not sure if it changed

[deep nacelle]

for me right now is the best time to start crafting smelting for refine

[sullen bobcat]

also making sure to do homestead to get tokiwa/apples

[deep nacelle]

for your use

until season 3

[umbral lintel]

you save money if you buy the ore and smelt them yourself so yeah best time to lvl your refines to lvl 30

[sullen bobcat]

I would personally buy ore for cheap right now and then sell smelting once demand goes back up in s3
I assume demand will go back up at least, there's no way to know

[umbral lintel]

you really gonna wait the 90 days to sell the ore?

[deep nacelle]

i have my doubts

[sullen bobcat]

no no to craft out of it

it's a 50/50 on how many people are willing to sacrifice a little money for not having to grind gear

[deep nacelle]

the thing is level 220 gear isnt worth farming

there isnt any content for it

[sullen bobcat]

yeah

that's why I say I dunno

mystery metal is for sure dead

[deep nacelle]

i think twax sigil materials gonna be nice

and maybe serums day 1?

[sullen bobcat]

potions and food can be decent

even non day 1

[deep nacelle]

serums worked for season 2

[sullen bobcat]

just have to snipe good opportunities

[deep nacelle]

but was only 1 or 2 days

and when the purple rarity got released didnt even last 1 day

[next goblet]

what u selling with ur focus for luno

[sullen bobcat]

well not right now of course

forced to be low amount right now

I was selling ores/metals before they crashed

[deep nacelle]

juicy buy a lot of twax sigil material

need that money

[sullen bobcat]

now I sell that one botany material that's slightly annoying to farm

[next goblet]

what are the twin axe sigil

like haste

?

[deep nacelle]

good question

[sullen bobcat]

either way the other sellables you can get in a week make up the other half of your money

[next goblet]

i mean it depends what spec u going for

[sullen bobcat]

just selling to an alt, it's pretty easy to setup

make a character, do a tiny bit of stuff to get reclaim hub materials, log on once every 5 days and dump into a crafting lifeskill

then when you have enough money, put the unsellables on the market, wait roughly 24 hours, and buy with the alt

unfortunately I have several million in unsellables so I have to minmax my alts money making as well

[grim dome]

do we auto get twin axe or do we need to spend on a hero radiance?

[deep nacelle]

good question

i saw bidoof stream

and it seems he didnt use anything

[next goblet]

saw someone said its free

but prob not

[deep nacelle]

i hope we get 1 hero radiance

[sullen bobcat]

they already gave a hero radiance last time 🥀

if you buy every class and they give a hero radiance every time they add a new one, I'm going to have an extra radiance until the end of time

[next goblet]

hope they give discount LOL

1 time thing

[deep nacelle]

true 680 is expensive

[next goblet]

yea im broke

every luno i make i try to snipe mask XD

just need 27 more weee

[soft topaz]

Iirc you get a class reset

[next goblet]

i wanna convery my books 🙁

[tiny panther]

Does this actually mean that SV resets tomorrow?

[soft topaz]

No, that’s wrong now

[tiny panther]

Man.

[bold heath]

yeh it should be

then on thursday it resets again

just like when we went from s1 to s2

https://bpevents.poofcakes.com/

[cobalt solar]

the peirod shall be from 18~28

[tiny panther]

where's my orbs frankie

[cobalt solar]

extra orbs?

[tiny panther]

extra's orbs

send me 36 unbound orbs and i'll bribe you with a good well written AI feedback

[next goblet]

I want extra orbs 👀

[storm barn]

wasnt SV supposed to reset?

[manic matrix]

Yesn't

[soft topaz]

They changed it, it’s still the same as last week

Next reset is Thur

[bold heath]

dam this season changed

rip

no short stimen

no mentor

and no 8k gift

it didnt reset yep

[manic matrix]

Are we not supposed to have a shorter pioneer reward cycle with S3 coming soon ?

[umbral lintel]

apparently not

[manic matrix]

Misread the patch notes

Well that means I can keep my focus potions and have more free time for other things

[short coral]

I don't think you did. They just fucked them up and changed them later...

[manic matrix]

I think the edit was for the SV cycle. They thought that the reset would happen on the 25th, but it was not the case so they corrected it

[quick void]

saw this a mile away. Dont think the guys making the announcement actually plays the game to know SV cycles

[short coral]

I doubt APlus has any damn clue about the game...

[nocturne shoal]

I can say with 99.9% certainty that they don't have support staff for Global

Maybe 1-2 devs

[short coral]

doubt they are devs

most likely some random office-person

[nocturne shoal]

You still need someone to push all the updates to the server

So 1 dev/intern at least

[short coral]

"Here's a file, double-click that when we tell you"

[nocturne shoal]

I think they did have support staff back in s1

and maybe early s2

[short coral]

It's sad that this is a very common occurence when it comes to eastern games

[nocturne shoal]

so they pull support once player count goes down?

[short coral]

China/Japan make a great game and a publisher for the western market sends it to shit

505 games fucking over Duoyi's Gunfire Reborn are the same story

Except Duoyi cared, so they took legal action against 505

[nocturne shoal]

they give a lot more free orbs to CN player base

so I can imagine f2ps there having a much better experience, which keeps the game healthy

[short coral]

well, for us to get orbs, APlus would have to put in effort

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Bokura didn't even know things are so dire

We had exactly that on a project...
100k crashes in the first week... nobody said anything until I accidentally stumbled onto it myself and started digging
producer was "holding the reports till they can send them in bulk"

when we requested everything to be sent immediately, we got 800 reports

[vital egret]

Is anyone else on a mobile phone seeing this problem with their direct message chats???

It never refreshes

[vestal dove]

this is how mine has looked all week

[vital egret]

It's frustrating because I can't receive any direct messages.

[lyric musk]

if i embed ocean 100, and upgrade to 120, do i lose embeds?

[tranquil solar]

is it me or this new update has been crashing my game more often now?

[limpid arrow]

For the new season, should I craft the basic Oceanic weapon? Or will it be useless at level 100?

[autumn marsh]

ill forward it

[buoyant crescent]

should be ok for like easy/hard/m5 but not for m20 due to IS, unsure about m6

generally whatever content that doesnt have IS restrictions or where u go over the required IS with an underleveled ocean wep

[limpid arrow]

oh thanks

[hearty bison]

m16 already

can be low IS

[quick basin]

Hi, i have question is Tatta good? I'm a SK

[hearty bison]

a very niche will

[scenic grail]

is oblivion still active even the holder dead?

[quick basin]

can be very useful here

[tacit flame]

What the heck is going on here. My eyes hurts

Laser and Circle.. How the heck do you even survive that.

[last inlet]

seems like this gonna be fun

kinda reminds me of boss mechanics from my old mmo

[safe cliff]

everyone void arachnocrab!

into 2 charges of frost shelter

[vestal dove]

that looks so chaotic

[drowsy atlas]

everyone was on the same zone

just separate parties to be each one in one of the 4 zones and the people that gets lasers on the further sides of the arena

ah no nvm

its not a wall like bone

[subtle trout]

Ngl that shit doesn’t seem hard once you find the best place to put the laser attack it’ll be free

But I bet mobile won’t be able to see anything so it’ll be unplayable for them

Looks like a aoe on everyone too so need to spread out move the laser attack and find a safe spot lol

[quick basin]

maybe those that get lasers should go to one side and use void arachnocrab, next that gets lasers use theirs for the 2nd lasers

[subtle trout]

Ya I’m sure there’s some easy ways to cheese it but don’t seem that hard tbh

[quick basin]

or iframe it just need to time perfectly

[subtle trout]

Ya doesn’t seem like the tank bubble saved there but I think they hit it to soon

[quick basin]

it seems the marks above them controls the blue zone, it should be easy to tell where the lasers coming from after that

[subtle trout]

Ya it looks like the marked players set the path for the lasers

Those can be set looks like the triangle spinning is gonna be the thing you can’t control that will randomize the safe zones

Just wish the colors where different lol

I know color blind people are gonna struggle finding safe zones

[drowsy atlas]

just saw a full raid video

this is how theyre clearing it

[drowsy atlas]

it repeats the attack 3 times

after boss dies

[drowsy atlas]

looks messy, but the arena is divided in 4 sections that we should rotate along the fight and at the end you will be back at the 1st section (there seems to be a bug where you skip the necesity to rotate)

then the "intended way" without using bugs or shi is putting 2 markers, one on the left (1) and one on the right (2) on the section 1

the people that gets targeted by the laser should stand on marker the left (marker 1), and the people that doesnt have lasers on them should look for a safe zone in marker 2

the safe zones in the example are ticked with green (the pink stuff is the carrusel -> when the carrusel stops does 1 laser barrage and then keeps rotating it occurs before the lasers)

then people is supposed to wait on marker 2

and repeat the same

people that gets laser waits on the marker 2, and the rest goes to marker 1 to find a safe zone

^this mechs occurs apparently only after killing the raid boss, so if only 1 person survives after the boss is done with the mech its going to be a clear

iframing doesnt seem like an option because the lasers last for 5s

[last inlet]

holy mechanics

[grizzled sage]

I started getting Unity crashes today, still trying to figure out the cause

[next goblet]

i better see some happy feet in pug LMAO

[brave umbra]

nm goat unlocked on jp/kr (& sea I assume) this week; for the color coded damage share, is positioning the stacks farther away from their respective sheep simply convention, or is there a survival benifit to it as well?

[soft topaz]

it makes it clear for people to group

since if you're with an aoe and a guy with a diff color string is in it, it counts as a fail

keeping max distance ensures best odds of not accidentally screwing the mech up

[brave umbra]

🤔

[hearty bison]

the 2 6 mech?

[brave umbra]

sry I found the explanation lacking so I logged into global to read the documentation

[soft topaz]

yeah

[brave umbra]

the fact that it explicitly mentions to check your position after the damage share makes me think the knockback damage is scaled based on distance from your linked sheep

hence why the convention is to position them farther

[hearty bison]

important is

dont move

after the mech share Hits

until you get pulled by the lines

[brave umbra]

yea cuz people would run toward their assigned sheep, shortening the distance

[hearty bison]

ye

that can wipe the party

[brave umbra]

oki ty

[storm barn]

yeah the mech will knock you back when its safe to move

just stay stacked with like colors till then

[gilded egret]

wasn't there a title to claim for getting master score or something? How is that done ?

[rustic temple]

#master-score-event

Read the pin.

[gilded egret]

thanks ❤️

[woeful meteor]

Will we get another of the skill book reset item after Thursday maint?

[soft topaz]

Most likely.

[tacit flame]

2 months

[sullen bobcat]

6 times??

[pure nacelle]

yeah

they're really letting you experiment with classes

for the first 2 months

before you lock in for m5->20s

[nocturne shoal]

It takes 2 months for M10 release?

[soft topaz]

M5 event begins a month after s3 release

So sounds about right

[scarlet flame]

when the maintaince will end?

[nocturne shoal]

Not sure if I'll be motivated enough to play for that long lol

[subtle pagoda]

do we share homestead furniture with our other housemates? or can we only place homestead furniture that we ourselves crafted and own?

[pure nacelle]

latter

you need to own it to place it / move

[nocturne grail]

you can recycle furniture your roommates have placed down though, and effectively 'steal' it for yourself

[worn ivy]

<@&599291260301344768>

[frosty vale]

Thanks o/

https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-cocky-arrogant-ill-kill-you-firearm-gif-13324051

[uncut remnant]

anyway can explain for me, what the different about dream dmg expertise skill +20% and expertise skill +20% ?

is that different buff like refined atk type?

[blissful fractal]

Anyone correct me if im wrong there but afaik you just have a few exceptions where dream dmg isnt applied (aka guild hall dummy) but any actual content (dungeons/raids) its always applied so youll always have that dream dmg on when doing content
But its not applied when doing dmg rotation on dummy

[uncut remnant]

oh okay, so its usual dmg

[uncut remnant]

Is it included in the regular expertise skill or is it separated in the dps meter?

[blissful fractal]

If it works the same way as the atk factor, it should be included

i dont remember seeing an extra line for this so i think its included

[pearl idol]

hi guys i kinda confused how the raid gear for moonstrike works

i want to use the 2nd effect for 2pcs set
so how i know if its active? should i build my aspd to 86%+ (in town/before dungeon) so the 1st effect is replaced by the 2nd effect?

[lapis walrus]

it will look like your attack speed is 86% but when it goes over to 87% it goes over the threshold and it will go to 80%. one way to test it is to ask a Lifebind to help test it. set your atksp at 84-85% and ask them to buff you you can see your attack speed go either to 80% or it can go 89% then you have way to much.

[pearl idol]

aah i see... thankyou for the explanation

[craggy gazelle]

im guessing no pioneer rewards until next week?

[manic matrix]

Yes, they're disabled until S3 hits the server

So we should have a short pioneer cycle

[craggy gazelle]

i see, the game is yelling at me that i need to collect thi8ngs from here LOL

[tiny panther]

<@&599291260301344768> where's my orbs

[pastel eagle]

ty

[frosty vale]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-headshot-gif-22464808

[west hatch]

What currency should I convert to? Yen?

[soft topaz]

that's in RMB (also 0 chance we get this content)

[dim bane]

do we have details on when exactly and duration of s3 maintenance?

[soft topaz]

Starts at reset time on Thursday, for 7 hours expected

[uncut remnant]

is this frost mage?

[uncut remnant]

or new class?

the staff weapon still same as fm tho...

[soft topaz]

yeah that's frost mage for sure

[pure nacelle]

not true; dream applies on dummy

@uncut remnant

Dream DMG% and DMG% are completely different multipliers

think of it as buckets

you have elemental DMG%, DMG%, Versatility DMG%, Mastery DMG%, Crit DMG%, and others

I believe for Goblin Chief, it is a Expertise Skill is a limiter on that DMG% in particular? But I have not tested this

meaning its a DMG% that applies to Expertise Skill

[blissful fractal]

I never said its applied to all dmg, we talking exclusively about expertize skill here

Im saying its only applied to content where dream dmg affect stuff 🤔

[pure nacelle]

edited

[blissful fractal]

aka not guild hall dummy

[pure nacelle]

meant to say dream applies on dummy

its quite easy to test

unequip an expertise dream and reequip it

dmg will change on dummy

[blissful fractal]

Fair enough

[pure nacelle]

i believe the only dmg that doesnt apply to the elite dummy is any form of boss dmg%

[oak arch]

when/how long is server maintenance for S3?

[soft topaz]

7 hours

starting at thur reset time

[dim plaza]

So I am in canada, and Im at 140ms ping constantly, but once i turn on vpn and set my location to canada, all the sudden my ping is 40ms, math aint mathing

[lone owl]

im trying to delete my account on mobile because i wanted to link my acc to my steam account. i made the mobile acc first so i guess it seems like i can only link from steam to mobile not mobile to steam. i tried deleting my acc to link it, it says to not log into the acc for 30 days for it to be deleted. its been 30+ days and i still cant link it. what should i do?

[livid egret]

Weren't we suposed to exchange our Monogatari Series - Gold Meow Point into Astral gold meow tickets II after the event has ended? All this time that choice was locked and i was waiting for it, but now the astral shop is completely removed like what..

[sly glacier]

No. Only those who whale on the banner and empty the prize pool at least once can exchange them during the banner period. Afterwards they are only good for turning into starland medals.

[livid egret]

Ohhhh i didnt know that, that is....unfortunate

[frosty vale]

(sorry for late response)

Did you try logging in via the website (here) ? Log in through APlus, and then link the account to gmail

from what i understand in your description, it seems the google account hasn't been deleted yet, right?

if the google account is still active after 30 days, i suggest contacting Customer Service before (here). Initially, a bot will assist you, but after a while, the humans will show up 🤣

and my last attempt would be to log in via google and link it to APlus 🤔

from customer service you'll find some tips

[nocturne shoal]

Is there any plan for fsr4 support? Like in CN server

[dusk falcon]

did you ever find a solution? I'm going crazy as frost mage

[safe cliff]

I got used to it 😭

[errant monolith]

<@&599291260301344768>

[pastel eagle]

Ty

[errant monolith]

No

Problem

[idle saddle]

[errant monolith]

[pastel eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[sharp mirage]

Ey, wait, was about to redeem those 2k$.

[pastel eagle]

Careful, they might take it back and put you in negative.

[dusk falcon]

is there any ranged class that doesn't have that problem? or they all have it?

[safe cliff]

I never tried other dps classes

[pure nacelle]

try turning off all camera settings?

including camera correction

[kind karma]

Will reclaim have the stuff I don't buy in Honor coin shop this week

[vague thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372608873805910027/1506877324342202399/s8drn0z.gif

[tawny topaz]

Ever since the orb maintenance my whisper chat has been like this I play on mobile. Anyone else getting this? Or is there a possible fix soon or something

[vestal dove]

same

[cobalt solar]

on the Android device?

[tawny topaz]

iPhone

I can’t even whisper anyone at all

Or receive any

[pure nacelle]

Seven's reply a few days ago: #questions-and-help message

@cobalt solar Seven said he'd do something about it but it's been a pretty bad bug on mobile this entire week (at least iPhone), so if you could raise visibility, would be very welcome 🙏
My post on it: #questions-and-help message

[cobalt solar]

Ikr, the issue will be fixed in next patch

[pure nacelle]

[tawny topaz]

Ty for the info

[nocturne shoal]

<@&599291260301344768> spam bot

[pastel eagle]

Thanks

[sly glacier]

These Weeklies won't reset after maint on the 28th with the launch of S3 right?

[wind quartz]

good question

[manic matrix]

Since they're supposed to give season exp in S3, they might be reset / autoclaimed

Would love some clarifications on that

[edgy mountain]

If they dont reset Im bricked

[sly glacier]

I have a feeling it not gonna reset. Would be too generous, can't allow for 2 Meowlux Special Universal Tickets in a single week.

[scenic grail]

hello homestead planters , what time is pollination phase for hydragea?

[manic matrix]

Not like it would matter, collabs cap the ticket exchange anyway 💀

[sly glacier]

Correct. But as someone else mentioned the S3 rewards for these weeklies will include a decent amount of Season XP and Season Elite Store currency.
So, some might potentially end up missing out on first week of currency and XP.

[unborn dagger]

S2 exp is resetting iirc

[sly glacier]

Is that just a statement, or did you have a question bout it?

[unborn dagger]

Ah I misread the question

[craggy gazelle]

uh i collected from trading center, monery first ehem timed out items, and one of them said "this item does not exist in the trading center" and it didnt go back in my bag... i just lost an imagine will? and i didnt get anymore luno for taking it..
wtf just happened

??

and support isnt working :p this is such a great game .-.

[neon needle]

Support is non-existent really in global BPSR

[craggy gazelle]

clearly

so i guess i just lose the gloomy cabbage will

noluno or dismantling it

[hearty bison]

purple?

[craggy gazelle]

yeah

[hearty bison]

doesnt matter

this shi doesnt sell anyway

[craggy gazelle]

thats the point

i could dismantle it

i did that last season with all my left overs

[hearty bison]

I guess you dont have double gold?

[craggy gazelle]

i dont

i dont even have t2 muku right now

[hearty bison]

damn

[hearty bison]

[craggy gazelle]

rng is bad in this man

atleast for my account

[hearty bison]

why

when did you start

[craggy gazelle]

your asking me LOL

day one global launch

[hearty bison]

why is your muku not even t2

[craggy gazelle]

i had to buy my two will for it

ive gotten 0 muku will drops since playing

[hearty bison]

I dismantle wills i dont need for the wills i need

[craggy gazelle]

ive gotten a total of 7 wills in this game

[sly glacier]

Did you invest into a different gold imagine?

[hearty bison]

im at t5 muku t4 rorola wirhout spending

[craggy gazelle]

t2 muku and t5 mukuscouyt

unmade roro

she was my last will ive gotten

[sly glacier]

you can't unlearn an imagine

[hearty bison]

Do you spend your orbs for other stuff?

and luno

[craggy gazelle]

the illegal ones?

[hearty bison]

no overall

[craggy gazelle]

im f2p, people ahve bought me outfits

[hearty bison]

damn

[craggy gazelle]

i am a stay at home mom i dont have money for games LOL

[hearty bison]

but should have at least 1 t5 will

[hearty bison]

[craggy gazelle]

i do, my purple muku scout

i play frostbeam

[sly glacier]

the better question is how many days have you missed since launch, i guess

[craggy gazelle]

total of about 2 weeks

around season two start

[hearty bison]

I mean gold

[sly glacier]

i feel like you missed more than that scattered throughout

[craggy gazelle]

oh yeah, so season 1 in the verty beginning i didnt know how this game worked, this is my first mmo, i had a t3 veno and i dont remember the other

[hearty bison]

if you got ppl to carry you then its fine

[hearty bison]

ah

that explains it

[sly glacier]

oh you have a t3 veno? that where all ur mats are

[craggy gazelle]

i dont have that anymore

[hearty bison]

new acc?

[craggy gazelle]

someone who "helped me" had me dismantle it

it was useless for my class

[hearty bison]

ah well yeah

s3 will have new beam image

[craggy gazelle]

about time

[hearty bison]

mount carry is horrible

came out of a 40 min snek

[craggy gazelle]

i dont think we had to touch snake for me to get my mount

[hearty bison]

damn

I did some snakes

the curse of beeing a high dps

[craggy gazelle]

i haate snake

[hearty bison]

[quick basalt]

whale dps*

[hearty bison]

you are

[wraith stag]

Chief isn't BIS for beam anymore in S3 btw

New Imagines, stop working on chief if you hardcore main beam.

But yeah uh, even with "bad rng" you shoulda had 1 or 2 gold imagines t5 by now completely f2p ( if you knew what you were doing )

[wraith stag]

I know someone with 0 will drops that has T5 and T4 gold f2p for example

and they aren't a day 1

[wraith stag]

Also, don't run bosses for will drops

Run for the imagine upgrade material

[craggy gazelle]

i also know people who have been playing since launch and dont have t5 or wouldnt without spending money lol - besides me

[wraith stag]

I mean, casual players exist in every game

Nothing wrong with that

[craggy gazelle]

yeah your right

but for someone to play damn near every day to not be able to get a t5 gold is crazy

[wraith stag]

I have a friend who only has a T3 because she has like 25 imagines

Not even casual just plays every class

[craggy gazelle]

ive only put mats into one other imagine thats gold and i never got it to 5

[wraith stag]

If you don't know what you are doing it becomes kinda impossible

there's many new player "traps"

[craggy gazelle]

i didnt for half of the first season

but even then,. i have the mats.

i need the wills

i could at least have a t3 if i could get the will for muku

[wraith stag]

Common things that makes it hard for unaware players to progress imagine

• Spending focus on refine instead of selling materials for imagine mats
• Not buying wills, they won't drop
• Spending red orbs on the gacha with horrible rates without wanting the SSR ( basically wastes all orbs )
• Not selling basically everything to get luno for will/cheap mats

• Running the wrong daily boss ( should be the one that gives materials for upgrade )

But instead because they don't have the boss that drops the will drop the materials for it

That tricks people into being like

OMG LET ME RUN FOR MUKU CHIEF DROP ( under 1% chance )

where the imagine upgrade materials drop pretty commonly and is much much better to run for

This season I must have gotten 30~ drops ( around 6 mil luno compared to coping for a single chief drop valued at only 1.8m )

[craggy gazelle]

with the game literally taking my unbound luno or items that im trying to sell im in a bind really

multiple times the game has revoked unbound luno for no reason given and im stuck just shy of being able to do anyhting i need to

[wraith stag]

If that's happened with many large sales then that could explain some things, wonder why and how it bugs for you

I haven't heard of that happening before

[craggy gazelle]

im still waiting for a response but the ai bot closed the chat around 9.30

and i dont understand that at all

it really pisses me off

[wraith stag]

How much Luno would you say you make per week

[craggy gazelle]

per week?

no clue

i go some days with nothing selling at all

[wraith stag]

How do you spend your focus

[craggy gazelle]

the lognest ive gone with no sales is 2 weeks

[hearty bison]

[wraith stag]

For most of S2 you could get around 1m per week as an average player

which should make it easier to buy the wills

[craggy gazelle]

i mill per week???

[wraith stag]

ya

[craggy gazelle]

im lucky to get 50k

[wraith stag]

that... is impossible

[craggy gazelle]

idk what to say LOL

[wraith stag]

are you not using focus at all

[craggy gazelle]

i use my focus

[wraith stag]

[craggy gazelle]

but also my highest refine is at 22

[hearty bison]

if you sell ore alone

thats like 50k daily

[quick basalt]

50k weekly..

[wraith stag]

yeah ...

[craggy gazelle]

so i give up my refinements and sell instead???

[quick basalt]

yeah

[wraith stag]

Well now we know why Imagines are low

but yeah

[hearty bison]

well will gives you more

[wraith stag]

refinement is one of the biggest new player traps

[hearty bison]

i spent all for refine too

almost whole season

[wraith stag]

42k Daily over 7 days
53k Lifeskill ( 480k weekly )
126k guild mission

650k Luno per week without any RNG involved, add in weekly / boss drops and this goes up to around 1m on average.

[craggy gazelle]

that just doesnt make any sense

[wraith stag]

[wraith stag]

What doesn't

[hearty bison]

but i have t4 rorola xD

[wraith stag]

I can explain it better real fast before I leave for lunch

[wraith stag]

[craggy gazelle]

giving up your refinement so you can make luno

[quick basalt]

whale

[wraith stag]

• Refinement doesn't benefit you nearly as much as you think
• Refinement should be upgraded passively - the cap doesn't increase in S3
• If you don't "give up refinement" you won't have any Luno income to work on imagines which helps 10x more

You can clear M20's with +15 armors

You don't need higher than that

[craggy gazelle]

m20s are done

have been for a week or longer

[wraith stag]

Not the point

I'm saying you don't need to go past 15 to be able to clear it

Which you can do passively without spending focus on it...

So "F2P Optimal" would be to ignore refines, yes

The DPS gained from having half decent imagines would be way better than slightly higher refines for the same cost.

As it is right now you basically have two purple imagines as a day 1 player

[craggy gazelle]

i guess

[wraith stag]

It's not the end of the world though, Chief is being replaced for Beam in S3

Because Ice arrow has 100% crit rate

It's not "bad" just not best in slot anymore because of furball and spider ( new s3 imagines )

So imo, save for working on that, don't spend focus on refine use it to sell materials and focus on imagine

For a comparison, getting all refines from 20 -> 30 gives roughly 7% DPS

Muku Chief from T2 to T3 would give around the same DPS gain while being alot cheaper

Also if you are tryhard, make an alt and buy stuff from your main

Can get millions ( no exaggeration ) of luno that way, just selling the starforge crystals you get as a drop

^

[craggy gazelle]

i dont have time for all that shit LMAO

i dont just sit on a game for 24/7 min maxing with alts

i have a family and a whole ass baby to take care of

[wraith stag]

you realize

it only takes an extra 5 mins per day

[craggy gazelle]

i barely have 10 mins a day to try to get raids done once a week

[wraith stag]

I mean, you went for 3650 score so it's not like you have no free time at all lol

If you don't want to do it ... you don't need to

[craggy gazelle]

your right i do have some time every now and then on saturdays

but the whole reason i was in here was because the game literally took a will from me and i cant get any word from anyone

[wraith stag]

This is the type of company to make everyone -8165 after their mistake

[craggy gazelle]

and i lost either Luno or Mats

[wraith stag]

you won't get reply on ticket

[sick tulip]

where do i use this ?

[craggy gazelle]

the AI bot closed the chat because it assumed i was talking about unbound rose orbs.

[quick basalt]

js mail the shit out of them

i did that when i had issues with logging on epic

[craggy gazelle]

"this item does not exist in the trading center"

[quick basalt]

after 10 mails or wtv i got a real person to help me

[wraith stag]

[craggy gazelle]

it keeps opening the same page on me i cant get through to anything

but that shit didnt sell and its not in my bag

[quick basalt]

[e-mail]

spam them

maybe one day

they help you

[wraith stag]

What was it you were trying to sell again

[craggy gazelle]

gloomy cabbage will

at cheapest price cause duh

nothing special

[wraith stag]

If it was embed material I'd ask if they made it bind early

[craggy gazelle]

the screenie with me sitting is everything it put back in my bag

i should have screenshotted it but the mesage was so fast i didnt really know what tf happened- it took me a second to figure out what didnt sell

but the will just poofed - and it didnt sell so it should have went back in my bag

the two TC screenies are of everythings sold lastnight and today

[vestal dove]

emailing just gets u a Ai response

i would known been emailing them and each time i get the same basic computer generated answer

[quick basalt]

i got a non ai response tho

after days of emailing

[quick basalt]

send email wsit 2 days for ai response insta email again

[vestal dove]

this is all i get everytime i email them

[quick basalt]

took like 9 days tho but i got 3 responses that did not look like ai

unless im too dumb to see that it is ai

[vestal dove]

the first time i emailed i though go an actual response but since then its been the same message and no issue has been resolved

[quick basalt]

i got same ai message saying that i cant unlink epic account 2 or 3 times before that

[vestal dove]

i think i’m getting more ai cause the issue im emailing about they aren’t gonna address 😹

[tropic vigil]

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[idle saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-shooting-gif-8418996078338346483

[frosty vale]

that was fast

https://tenor.com/view/damn-old-gif-4327453260111621237

[idle saddle]

I was already in general chat lamenting

[fallow crystal]

do we think someday we'll be able to redo old quests?

[umbral lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[fallow crystal]

i want to be a nappo again

[vapid obsidian]

Maybe to see old cutscenes with the new character look or recording

[daring basin]

What time does servers come up?

[velvet ingot]

well the notice says in 12 hours, but for some reason people are saying in 13. idk if they postponed it or people are just bad because they can't figure out summer time xD

[daring basin]

o: oh thanks haha

I will take it as roughly 12x hours

[velvet ingot]

yeah we will know forsure if the server shut down an hour before reset or on reset xD

[short coral]

I will assume 16 and be hopefully positively surprised

[muted berry]

Is it possible to farm 600 dust anymore till the meintance?

[grim dome]

<@&1372169443110813706>

[muted berry]

Forgot what role to ping noe I got it thank you corda

[pure nacelle]

uhh in 3h? probably nkt

if you havent knocked out dust weeklies u can do those for a quick 300 dust

and then another 300 dust manually but