#questions-and-help
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I think what you fail to comprehend is you aren't bidoof nor is anyone you are recommending to risk being banned over something trivial.
It's a strawman argument exempt of any logic.
Just because he decides to risk his account and can probably get away with it, doesn't mean anyone else can.
Looking at the facts, Moderator said they have seen people get banned without it being NSFW or political.
You really don't have any argument lol.
If you want to risk being banned fine, but don't tell others to take that risk as well.
Mods need to chill or i resort to violence
There are people using fishing macros that haven't been banned, but I also personally know people who have.
Just because one gets away, doesn't mean everyone will.
Wth is fishing macros
They too lazy to fish lmao
ngl they shud just add auto fishing
Damn they deserve ban
theres already auto mahjong
WOW
Imagine fishing in tis game
my guy
https://youtu.be/92tEKP8BReo?t=10 this is what you sound like
My favourite scene from Dragon Ball Z :D I can't stop laughing every time I see it :P
1: Sayian saga, episode 14: The snake princess ;)
is there a basic buffs bar and other things tracker preset to download for zdps that anyones made yet?
may I know if the only the specified character will only get the ban or will the rest of your other chars be affected as well?
It was an account wide ban unfortunately

any ai slop is to be shot down ON SIGHT
from where i can farm this
Any Cocoon
You can also dismantle the dropped factors
tysm
this is much needed.. but I also agree that they should just make fishing afk lol
yes
Fishing’s whole purpose is to give you an alternative way of completing guild cargo quests without spending luno or focus and instead wastes your time. 
Doesn't waste your time if you are doing something while fishing 
For example: Watching a movie vs. watching a movie while fishing
though, the rewards for the last 5 levels are a spit in the face of everyone who is actually fishing
They took that away too really.. fish rarely appeared in the guild cargo after S2 started. It was almost all culinary and alchemy stuff.
Bro just watch a movie regularly
Is it really worth it to afk farm with half of your brain and barely enjoy a movie with the other half
For some fish levels
At least movies are human
you are really unlucky then
because 98% of my cargos until now always have a type of fish
Mine didn't starting in S2.. every rare once in a while it would ask for S2 fish but it was 90% culinary and alchemy.
S1 was easy street because always fish.
Wait this is a general question for the discord more than the game. If people are mad there is not a mentor event couldn't they just apply to make their own with the #community-tournament-application? reading the rules there is nothing saying it wouldn't work, although it puts the responsibility on the player hosting to keep track
You can try sending an app I suppose

so why is the first person mode essentially pointless on desktop :c
hasnt worked on desktop since game release lmao
just go in normal mode and move the camera around
For Gundam Code for those who were asking.
Uhhh. That's not a great one. lol
THIS ONE IS SO GOOD
oh this is so helpful
The ridiculousness of '2112' is how I thought I was missing something with the code mechanic lol, but no, it's just that luck based
This is for phase 3. (:
Any good place to farm bound Luno?
anyone know what mats are the s3 imagines are
yeah was thinking if i should save all the boxes i collected during s2
No
you can't save ahead
s3 won’t have the mats convert anymore?
just straight new mats?
It's the same way from s1 to s2
You don't actually get anything from saving boxes
more so random "trash" you got from stimen can be used for the other imagine material
yeah saving boxes won't mean getting s3 mats from them, it's at most saving for if you want an s1/2 imagine or not
i see thanks
already got back all my wp gear lmao, once my MS push is done I'm switching right back
which thankfully is this week since the final dungs are open
oh wow, you're capped at like m13 oof
u hvnt swapped to all 160?
i hit the "get 100 ocean f2p" dream but at the cost of dropping 2k ability score and a ton of illusion strength
dps went up though

I see
How come my season 1 load times are like under 10 seconds. Then Season 2 load times like 1 minute plus etc. I mean sure nvme and on Nvidia driver 591.87 I think. Can anyone give me suggestions? (Have not tried reinstalling since the game literally downloaded itself again on season updates)
here it is JoeSnail
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thank you

That’s normal
Game horribly unoptimized
But it doesn't happen to everyone apparently . It's a serious pain watching that loading screen then suddenly end up in a can't attack bug or something like that
How much stuff is in your inventory?
Had a suspicion that cluttered inventories lead to bad load times
That and the steam version of the game is laggier than the official launcher for some reason
True I'm the trash collector. I did try once to dump the stuff in warehouse once. But didn't really make a difference at that time. I'm running from official launcher. Also deleted settings. Since apparently people said it's because I changed something. I suppose I can try delete mails and messages too
How much dreamwave dust can you get from a dungeon run ? I know M11 is 5
Is lifewave 6 by itself worth using? or no
Depends on your class spec.
I feel like I need another lvl 6 module with it for it to be worth
are we getting kanamia food buff for m20 push?
If u use a class reset key does it only give u back the class books or selection books?
mind explaining how? and possible what i should do better?
im zornino just for info
i did increase my crit after that
or is it jsut luck difference?
well, "how" is a quite generic question. Would be nice if you were a bit more specific.
but the first things that comes to mind...
You will never outheal a Smite in a raid.
The two other lifebinds are quite far ahead of you in terms of AS, which can mean a lot 
Class books
why won't i outheal a smite? i though lifebind does more healing?
I heard we’re getting something like that during the last 3 weeks of the season
the thing is...
Lifebind does more healing by itself, but smite converts damage into healing. Not it's own damage. Everyone's damage.
Smite heals more in raids since their heals can hit all 20
Look. Symbiotic mark is damage converted into healing.
The remaining 10% is smite's own healing
-# Of course, it's 10% is in my case. Results may vary smite to smite and with different party composition
i see? thx
as a lifebind, you are there to heal when there is no target (smite can't really heal without target) and to provide the party with the glorious +[whatever]% buff 
k understood boss
Question, is there a limit on how many we can get Glinting Stellar Cores per week?
yes, 4
excluding any chest drops you get
really? only 4
even we the new Nightmare?
...
it's done deal then.
Far sea weapon is only for whales
it's always been meant that way since it was announced
Wait replied to wrong person
I thought that was obvious
yeah but they did give us some false hope that we can catch up
When?
Its not
You just wont get it without spending any Luno
I have already bought over 20 SEA materials without spending any money, @storm badge has bought 17 same boat. I started working on it late Season 1 and he started working on it in Season 2.
I have a friend who could buy 40 F2P because they didnt work on imagines
which unironically might be optimal 
I dont understand why people look at the far sea weapon as "I can get this without spending any luno at all"
Also, if they ever let you get more cores per week then expect the amount you need for further weapon levels to increase as well, again you wont be able to get and use it without spending Luno.
If they did suddenly let you get 8 per week, hypothetically, then all the people who spent money on it would feel "bait and switched" and want their money back, huge backlash because now its extremely unfair to them lol
Imagine you spent 2000 or 3000$ however much it is to max it out
Then they increase the drops and you have a ton of excess
People ( especially CN ) would crash out
there's no assurance it stays at that much to keep pace too, mind
S3 already ramped up each upgrade tier while not increasing core drop rate
20/25/30 -> 25/30/35
TRUE GIMME MY CORES
not only is price up, we have 8 less cores going into S3 vs CN
but the upgrade cost might still be the same
awesome
Wud be easy fix to hand out in events
super easy, trivial even
S3 is 17 weeks (68 cores) and the core upkeep is 90 cores for upgrades. Thats a 22 core deficit
If it remains this pace you'll need to spend 20m+ luno each season to even remain on pace
Sadly
It is subscription based
where can i see this place
Just look on YouTube
If I’m not wrong, it’s outside of the dragon raid dungeon. On the right side
What’s the new pink stones in the gear exchange store for, how much would we need and when would we be able to utilize them?
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Dang it
I was eating raviolis

was killing the golem '-- now my pt wiped :/
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🛐 thank you mods
Its your fault
It would help if you had a picture 
Going off assumptions, its just to get extra pieces of Raid gear for alts or 6 set
How much you need varies on you
When and if you can utilize it also depends on you
did we get a lot of 160 reforge stones this week? got 1166 reforge for some reason
You probably bought 999 from exchange shop instead of 15
ohh yeah, looked there now, lol
Has anyone gotten the login error w/out code where it just says try again in 5 min?
I had the bug where you couldn't do anything so I tried to relog and now I can't get back in.
How do I get currency to pull on the costume banner?
3 per week for 450 bound rose orbs in the shop, we get some from events/codes occasionally. or swipe for like 2.5$/pull
you get 3 bound a week from colorful shop
season pass gives you some amount of unbound
the rest must be through paid orbs

WAIT HOLD UP
ITS THAT EXPENSIVE PER PULL?!
idk the orb rate i didn't know it was that high
hard pity would be like 200$

how many cheer up boosted dungeon runs to hit limit?
7 I think?

save your cheer ups for 160 gear
But it also depends on what you mean by "hit limit"
If you are talking about reforge stones? omg lazy then there's 40 reforge stones per week
each run drops 2
and cheer up would make that 6
if you are talking about the solo mode drop limit 
bro the bots outDPS me cuz im too lazy in building >:D ill save cheer up treats after today >>
i got good gear 120, got lazy 140
Including the bonus orbs it's about $21 per 10 pull. 1500 orbs per 10 pull, approx 7200 orbs for $100 (if you buy through site; if through Steam it's like $10 to total more due to tax)
Topup site is down?
Loads for me

is there a way to dye the hair bows on certain hairstyles to match the rest of the hair/fit? 
I wish

yo, anyone noticed his lucky strikes not proccing/being halved?
meter showing people having half of their supposed luck%
any clue what the chance is? anyone have any firsthand experience with an unbound sigil?
I haven't personally got one but I know a bunch of people who got one, sometimes even multiple
As for the chance, no clue, entirely RNG

certain attacks can't hit lucky strike, for example valor cyclone on wind knight (unless you get the factor that enables it) or healing melody on concerto
if you mean on something like moonstrike, I'm curious if they are lagging
goonstrike*
No, not that
luck wasnt working at all, smite get ducked, icicle doesnt get his crystals etc
yeah idk I'd just blame lag then
a pal that normally hitted 1.1m and meter showed 40%~ luck did & meter showed 20%~ luck
picked my attention than the goonstrike didnt suffer any of that xD
is it everyone in an instance?
No, it was being 3 people
1 smite, 1 icicle & the tank (he switched even specs)
meanwhile the moonstrike didnt suffered noticeable problems on meter nor dps
does anyone have SGK
so what you're saying is the goonstrike is sabatoging you

NEVER TRUST A GOONSTRIKE
NEVER
affecting the others and not the goonstrike would be kinda weird xD
goonstrike is unfortunately
not affected that much by lag
if they full auto
whereas classes like
icicle, skyward, iaido
happened on another party too
EXTREMELY lag sensitive
skyward was pumping fine
yeah even if it freezes on ur end the auto keeps fighting
so if I'm lagging like 2000 ping it will keep going?
wtf

I mean, input buffering exist for a reason
if u notice ur lagging hard turn on auto and it basically doesnt affect how it plays 
wish i had a video on hand
but ive had times where im frozen for 5 seconds
EX: at weekly reset
diff comes when its a freeze
and then i suddenly jump up 8m damage
xd
wild
yeah it kept fighting for me LOL
I had to switch off moonstrike cause I was ghosting basically everything lmao
thats cause u were one of the honorable ones ( no auto )

spam same skill and use the rest together/when available
even if its straightforward
ur going to be freezing or delayed on inputs
but if u let auto make that up
instead of losing a ton of dps in raid u would lose like 5-10%
if that

yeah I had to test it and I literally only lost 10% dps from going full manual to full auto
on moon
for some ppl its a dps gain cause they dont lag
(me)

actually it's crazy to ghost like everything you have
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vDKBTayd_Q
Does anyone know how the undead revival pattern at 02:04 in this video was countered?

seems that everyone ran to the gates and clicked, so everyone lost the power of revival...
tho, I would really expect the team to wipe if you do that 
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Insta click portal to skip mech then survive with tatta
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for this, it's what is in the honor store
which I think is 10?
yeah
is it 10? thank you!
either 10 or 5, one of the two
I need a firm answer. Do S2 easy raids still drop ocean mats?
they have the same chest drop rate as the other ones that can drop it
but not the free core
Bet. Thank you. 🤍
It's 10 on the Honor Store which is Also the same for the Gold Dusts
I am on line 1 if u need help
im from SEA T-T
ohh
thats why this map just openned
yes yes
thankyouu
10
i think you will still do dragons nm
You need to keep doing nightmare dragons until the s2 nightmare raids come out
@white bison btw is twax smelting?
Yeah. Talking about S2 raids though.
if i wanna make gear
I feel like the Axes are Probably gonna be Smelting Life Skill unlock just like Stormblade, Shield.K, Heavy.G & Wind.K
nah it's obviously gonna be weaving
sb is weaving

(they're talking about the weapons)
See told ya so
the armor will be smelting anyway cause it's a strength class

I only play is Beat Performer as my Secondary setup, My main is still Storm but my 3rd gonna be Twin Striker
Hey yall just starting, kinda overwhelmed, any new player guides? Or like a daily list you want done.
Track daily, weekly, and monthly checklist progress on a focused page.
welcome! let me know when ur on

we can run dungeons if ud like 

Do your story, do your trial path, do aironas talent training quests, get some basic 160 gear (should have gotten some already for free), find the reclaim hub in the shop, go to maxroll and follow a guide for the class you want
it sounds like a lot, and it kind of is, but it shouldnt take too long
my daily list is something like
check mystery store for good items
guild checkin/cargo
spend focus points if near cap
use boss and elite keys if near cap
do unstable space
do bureau commissions (at least until I max everything out in bahamar)
tend to my homestead
if Im not at 500 daily points in the season hub by then I tend to go do something to reach it
bureau comms/homestead/daily points arent very useful, so Id skip them if Im low on time, and the rest doesnt take very long
bureau commissions useful for the 1 weekly wish coin, some cosmetics, and bound luno
daily points important for dream exp and rose orbs
homestead isnt that useful if you didnt focus on it day 1. you'd be too far behind on lifeskill levels to do anything with it
oh no homestead would be useless if you only wanted lifeskills
the point is the max level homestead commission
since it can give tokiwa or apples that you can use focus to turn into luno
bureau comms are useful for the weekly wish coin but you don't really need to do it daily in that case it would go into my weekly activities
cosmetics all get bought eventually but don't go away either
you'll probably have 200 daily points (the important goal) by the time you do the other dailies
homestead have a resource gathering commission that brings in a sizeable amount of crafting mats passively every 16 hours. but yeah if you're not planning to craft your own gear, its pretty useless.
i use homestead coins exclusively for leveling my lifeskills
yeah but as you said if you're just starting and your levels are at like 0 then it's kinda pointless
in the first place you can make like what, 5 equipment per week?
🥀
I wonder if they're gonna do anything to crafting
considering next season it becomes very easy to get bis
purple lines can be selected next season right?
just need to farm for the correct advanced stats
you talking about s3?

so we going back to s1 crafted gear where its ass again?
man who makes these headass decisions
I don't mind for Season 3, but If it Season 4 along with 1st anniversary,
I am going to lose my mind
insane
I mean I don't really mind it
they should just remove crafting gear
lmao
or maaaaybe
redirect crafting into something useful liiiiike
crafting for focused life skills

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thank you
I saw an imagine somewhere that it costs 100 refine mats to change the purple line
Not sure if it just gets randomized or you get to pick exactly what you want
from what I've heard the refine mats are the way to guarantee it but there's another resource that you can use to just reroll normally
by that point I'll have like nothing else to use refine mats on so I don't mind that it's so expensive
actually that's a lie I'm super behind on refine mats compared to most people
but I still don't mind cause I'd rather spend those mats than grind dungeons
Yea its quite expensive, but might be worth it for some who are buying cheerups anyways
(me)
Unless 100 refine mats is just to reroll, not choose. Then itll only be for the blubbiest whales
well only buying cheerups with borbs at least
if 100 refine mats is just to reroll then it's 🛌
I mean I'd still do it if I manage to max my refines somehow I suppose
hello, im trying to get into the game again, im having trouble knowing what i should be picking and doing for my specific classes
are there any recent guides on what to do, and how to play
I don't know of any guide that exists on what to do in specific, but I was talking about it earlier so I'll link it
which is just a tiny bit up in this channel actually
In CN now what you buy from trade center will be bound after purchased right?
can someone explain why eightfold skyflow is better than mirage shot?
correct
Alrighty
why cant i use bound to purchase skins?
so you cant use bound rose for all skins at shop?
there are some that are bound
aight thanks thought i could buy those skins using bound lol
ones that have ⛓️ on the orb are bound orb ones, other ones are the paid ones
Hi. Do i need 5 or 6 superior achievement trophies for outfit?
i think so, i've reached to a point where my grey ones are above the needed amount, so i think it won't proceed until i get a superior one
should be 6 iirc
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Any working codes aside from “HAPPYPMMAY”?
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Guess that one is expired
i believe it's +30% damage to the base, making it 165+30=195 per arrow. it'll cap out at 195x8=1560%, compared to 165x10=1650%. i think you need about 22 procs of PA for the 10 shots to finally start doing more total damage, which you start getting after about 2 minutes of battle
@sullen bobcat actually
its because mirage shot has hidden dream damage
not shown on tooltip
tests done on left and right node
right node has a 15% dream dmg increase
so while right node scales slower, you can prestack it to make it better
are you sure it wasn't just damage variance? when i did testing my arrows had 3 different damage numbers with no change to the tree
also no change to buffs
some classes introduce damage variance by changing mastery via life wave, damage stack, or crit damage or so on
but this game does not introduce variance by itself
there is no range of values so to speak
Can confirm eightfold better than mirage shot. At least when I tested it 
The only time this isn’t true is in stimens where you can’t prestack arrows
hm, strange. i don't know what it could have been then, cuz i didn't activate any sort of buffs
also made sure to not crit
damage stack, possibly talents are often culprits
didn't have damage stack on
guildmates maybe
no one around
muku scout shouldn't have been active cuz i was casting 1 skill every 10 seconds
oh okay, i think i know what it was. my movement was probably putting me in range of other dummies at various times, changing my ATK
does anyone know in what time you have to clear DoD m18 to get exactly 656 score? xD
does boss in cage in any way scale if you don't open all the elite portals in it?
no
its just impossible to finish spatial on time if you don't open 2 portals
and if you have enough dps to finish on time, then you can finish on time faster by opening more portals
, because you wouldn't be struggling with spatial
but if you only 2 portals does that do anything to the boss as opposed to 3?
err
the phase where they shoot lasers at the crystal
might have an additional projectile line
but its pretty minimal
since I know the open portals pulse AoE in phase 2, doing 2 gives you more space than doing all 3, so I'm wondering if any penalty for that
yeah and the pulsing
just checking after finding out about the stupid snake egg debuff
that there nothing unintuitive going on like that 
like I didn't see any debuff on me or buff on boss
but idk maybe I missed something
the circle explosions that occur around the portal
those only happen if you actiate them
so if you skip the collosus (where boss will later spawn)
you can chill in there
I know that but I'm more asking like did you take any thing that makes dps check worse or harder somehow if you do that?

thank you very much appreciated the info
whats is the highest lvl for gears?
Wait for daily storage withdrawal on homestead, is that per person?
Or everyone on the homestead
Ty!
What's a wandering nappo
its for a quest
yes
Does anyone know how many Mischievous Nappo boxes we can get per week in total?
Is it 5 on Easy/Hard + 5 on M1 + 5 on M6 (and up)? So 15? Or is it 5 on Easy/Hard/M1 + 5 on M6 (and up) for a total of 10?
15
Okie, thank you! 
can anyone confirm that on CN in s3, that s2 imagine mats can be converted to energy source as well?
What's better for Falconry: 160 gear without a set? Or i can craft 3 items with 140 and do 4 out of 4 sets? Im newbie play 1 week. Losing ~150 agility for the set is good, I think.
most classes take 4pc over extra 160 pieces
I can confirm, i saw it from bidoof2d's stream but i don't have any screenshot
thank you

so, i've heard mixed information about that atk debuff you get in snake. some say if you break 2 or more eggs, everyone gets it, but i've also heard it's only the people who actually break the eggs that get it. idk, does anyone know exactly how it works in detail?
Hey hey... Any idea about this slowmo because of this setting ? https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13029943352744662736/39758246410BC85965CD1BC411160CED3868F6ED/
everyone gets it lasts for 25 seconds or so and was -30% atk at least at m15
I got the debuff as tank and tank never breaks eggs to avoid swipes
that's weird, i could swear that there were times i didn't get it, even when we break 2 eggs. and as you said, i'm a tank so don't usually break them
there might be some range limitation perhaps dunno
but like keeping a non-green snake up isnt that big of a deal for the potential dps loss
i think there must be more to it. like, i heard destroying all the eggs gives a 90% debuff as well. i'd like to do some tests but i don't think it would be possible with bots
I literally redirected you to the test in question.
Hello, I get this error when attempting to connect my Crunchyroll account. Any ideas?
ah, i see. i don't use discord so had no idea what you were doing
<@&1372169443110813706> hello, any news on the guild dance being bug right now?
whats the bug
guild dance isn't active I think
not starting
aight, if its all weekend long it probably wont get fixed before next week tho but will forward it
thanks!
i just made my crunchyroll account right now how is it linked already?
idk whats happening
I have the same problem with Crunchyroll could there be a problem if you use different emails for Blue protocol and crunchyroll ?
nope same email on both
hmm than idk i only know i cant connect my accounts too
i have the same issue
i try with both launchers, native and steam
nothing works
is guild dance ded
how can i recover from the loss of 50 guild coins and 100 bound luno
this is unacceptable
i demand 10k unbound orbs compensation
is anyone here got a way to fix the CR link issue?, im trying to get the items and it says "Bind Failed"
same
lol
<@&1372169443110813706> any way to fix the CR problem?

If I stopped playing after season1 ended, how far behind am I? I was a spender and was pretty strong at the end of S1
Like is it realistic for me to catch up?
yeah reclaim hub pretty much gets you to a good spot, just need to spam dungeons and get enough gears to join raids
shouldnt be a problem
I mean you'll be behind on refines, but season stuff is easy catch up now from reclaim & quests
if your imagines & refines were good already shouldnt be too bad
Yeah I had a lv5 muku which was meta back then and I was almost maxed on refines
I've never been able to link my account since release
Always tells me it is in use, I log only with it and it is a fresh account
Complaining to Bokura/Aplus makes them direct you to Crunchyroll, which will then direct you to Bokura, so nothing gets done.
This is after waiting 60+ days to try again
As I tried deleting that fresh account that appeared when I logged only with CR. It says it takes 30 days to delete it so I waited more than twice as long
as long as you dont care about having an ocean
it only takes 1-2 weeks to be back on track
outside of imagine and refines which are relatively cheap in comparison to ocean
ocean is beyond fucked if you miss a week
If I already post my Master Score in #master-score-event , I already got the ✅ and in the website is updated my Score, but I didn't got the "Dream Chaser" title, what I need to do? @stray moat
i dont think titles are distributed yet
You aren't a Wolf right
Guys where or who should i go to for some problem with topups?
Use the in game support or email them
he is indeed a wolfbow
have fun explaining to him that wb is something rn
Any chance yall know the email that i should contact with?
Might just be blind but could not find it
I was more concerned about the "Chief meta"
Muku Chief meta is already over. Move on
Chief was bad even in S1 for wolf too 

Appreciate it
ye I am, why?
wolfpack was top1 dps s1 so I guess it got giganerfed?
its more that others got buffed and added synergy w/dream tree stuff
wolfpack still can do good numbers, but NEEDS crimson fox
faloncry is generally more accessible of the two afaik
well no, given how high master/nm raid dungeons are scaled, wp's scaling got pretty hard screwed
3 wps almost certainly would not be able to m20 clear all dungeons for example
that sucks, I used to run m19-m20 attempts on s1 and wolfpack was pretty much needed due to high dmg and deter shot
is deter still a thing?
it might be, but the issue is wp damage is just not there to justify their presence anymore
more niche atm for bosssing they leaned more on magic dmg for stuff
wps have to fight to even get a whiff of 1m dps on bosses, which falcons can almost trivially achieve if they built since day 1 of the season
idk one of my MM besties showed it wasnt that bad compared to falconry, but deter isn't a game changer like in s1
well what boss
dummy/stimen boss 60 would suggest the damage is still there, but in raids/dungeons it just plummets
so basically unless I p2w fox im cooked?
roro over flier? eh?
well in S3 wp apparently shoots back up, and the bis imagines there are also the same as in S2 (fox/flier)
so my muku5 is useless rip
they mained falconry this season they just wanted to find way to make wolfbow work
its bis on falconry 
yeah chief tumbles out for wp because we finally have imagines that actually get more use for the spec lol
it remains bis on falcon tho yeah
well it can "work"
It wasnt even top 3
in S1
much in the way that any spec can do m20 if there's 4 super meta juicers lol
it was the best by far
issue is wp's s2 buffs were really lackluster
we didn't have much options
for scaling
You could always go Falconry, and WP is very strong in Season 3 which is in like... less than a month
Trust me, it wasnt lol
just use one of these
if want to give falconry a go
all that people remember of s1 is whales going moonstrike anyway
too far back to matter now
*a lot of them are icicles now
pretty much
Whales will follow meta class, no matter what
Kinda cringe but true
what were the top 3 for wp then? ik theres no point in arguing about past stuff but just curious
I thought both bows were kinda mid in s1
they were outside of "we arent geared but can use deter to cheese min score m20"
wolfbow did decent enough, but deter shot was a game changer lol
Iaido Goonstrike Vanguard were stronger, M20 meta was essentially 3x stormblade + Disso for max clear m20
yeah deter shot was crazy
Yeah the disconnect is most likely
Deter for min score clear vs talking about cap score / highest score
wp started omega op, slid to barely above average by end game, but since m20 99% of the time needed cheese bringing deter made wp popular anyway
only gigawhales were able to outdmg me, I was always top 1-3 dps in any raids
Do you have a pic? curious how my F2P iaido compared 
that's funny cause the same thing happened to me
but I was moonstrike
bows were always bottom half of dps
sure I just need to look for it
*also in S1 we had multiple times the game pop we do now
so going into S3 most likely we'll finally have juicers overlap into the same raids and a more coherent story for dps will emerge
yeah most wp sucked at the end of s1, only a few of us pumped good dmg
the only time I saw a good bow player was the time I was pushing m20s I found a couple people I'm pretty sure were whaling
but I have no way to confirm of course
Yeah im talking about end s1
I mean m20 you HAVE to be a whale to get all clears in S1
they fell off super hard with 80 gear
m20 S1 was way harder than S2 m20
m20 towering was quite literally not possible for wp due to the target bug
but yeah wp in s2 had so many different changes screw it vs s1 that it basically plummeted for 99% of players
mastery scaling made worse, stats made worse, etc.
set bonus worse
and ofc no pet ai fixes
the one change that was finally a buff we got was making wildcall no longer rng
unless
🐛
found this 21st dic 2025, light dragon raid I think? I was dead and still far off from the rest
thats really low no? 
I am aware
was probably before completed 80 gear
ahh makes sense
most ppl couldn't even break 100k dps on that time
wait, light nm was near finished 80 no?
when was that?
End of S1
yeah you had better gear
my screenshot is 21st dec lv 60 gear not 80, my gs was high cuz of maxed imagines
but lower power than lv 80 gear with lower gs
tbf max imagines go a long way for not nearly finished gear
You are aware that 60 gear it was not possible to hit 31k rating correct?
End of S1 the leviathans were barely 32k with maxed everything
Dec 21 also was 80 gear, full set
dw XD u just got back
you doubled the dmg from your pt
which also looked stacked lol
atleast better than mine
we had M11-20 come out at the start of Dec, 80s was well in play by then lol
The point I wanted to get across was mainly, WP wasnt that strong end of S1 so you should be fine playing it this season if you enjoy it 

(you might face this accusation in s3 tho)
tho apparently
much to Kithi's despair, Moon's initial S3 plummet appears to be something the devs are aiming to reverse
Yeah, I guess I was strong b4 I quit cuz of my gear but the class mightve fell down
but I guess that doesn't matter when iaido's cracked and skyward apparently explodes
we just didn't scale well end-game, the fact that we had to take MC of all imagines for BiS is proof of it
ya look what OLDMAN if you remember him, omega maxed out WP said
If you didnt omega whale you were doing really low dps, then even omega whale vs omega whale you werent top 3
come S2/3 we finally get imagines that line up, but in S2 the scaling is beyond awful - something belatedly fixed in S3
and because not all classes do the same huge dps with whaling, whales naturaly want the most bang for their buck
hence when MS was found to be best S1 whale spec they went that, and for S2 they all switched to icicle
S3 for now it looks like they're gonna be more all over the place because CN hasn't figured out THE dominant S3 spec yet
oh ye I used to discuss with that guy
I miss him 
Imo though, just play for fun
Like, dont worry about the DPS tier
Yeah, WP isnt in the best spot right now but gets much much better next season, if you have fun with something keep playing it
yeah oldman switched to falcon at start of s2 and then got attrited as all of his buddies left
unlike a certain WP who went to falcon and broke my heart 
if you start now, wp's playstyle in s2 is nearly identical to how it plays in s3
and the statting route's basically the same too, which is super nice
if I wait until s3 is there much of a diff vs if I start now? like id still have to farm new mats and stuff
if you want mats start now
wp bis imagines aren't from S3
they're S1/2
Flier (s1) and Fox (s2)
so you got every reason to start grabbing their mats ASAP
How can I reach to bahamas highland deepreach plz tell me

"don't worry about dps" says the guy with top dps
OH ALSO SOMETHING IMPORTANT I FORGOT TO MENTION @worn briar
WP is strong enough to like
clear 99% of content
So its not like you wont be able to raid or anything like that
but what about s2!
gotcha, yeah ill stick with it and save mats so I can be strong again in s3

welcome back 
WP should be in a much better spot in s3 than it was in s1
and its not a deter slave anymore either
so thats alot to look forward to
I have had SO much more issues with people not doing enough dps in s2 than in s1
true
like
M15 in S2 is way harder
than M15 in s1
that's also due to scaling though
still painge
in fairness s2 is now way more possible to push on stat scaling - it's just meaner on the mechs
our atk doesn't go up as fast in comparison to before
because the scaling sadly
whole specs were hardlocked out of certain M18-20s in S1
In S1 I could basically solo DPS M16 and we still had a chance to clear, in S2 If my team isnt strong we are cooked
now they aren't
I for one preferred it when Icicle was hardlocked out of M18-M20

so I'd guess m15 is more like m16 but the scaling is slower so m18 is probably more like m17
I haven't actually done any masters above 6 this season so I'm talking out my ass though
this is the kind of logic that has them make an S4 dungeon set that's impossible for Iaido to do more than 100k dps past like M11 lol
Yeah something like that, Id say M15 felt like M17 but M20 feels like M19, something weirdge like that

pls no
get ready for the WK in Snake experience(tm)
m16 is just pain
, the scale form m15 > m16 is so huge
err and people are saying you can clear m20 as f2p this season?
nappo yes
just play tank easy clear
if you picked meta specs

only nappo lmao
and mmh, serpent with a bug
and to a lesser extent shrine-ish
but you REALLY needed to have optimized well
3 f2p moonstrikes continuing from S1 probably can do shrine 20
yeah unfortunately I'm completely locked out from m20
technically on CN f2ps cleared alot of m20s other than nappo so its not technically wrong but it was like mostly tryhard comps and hardcore minmaxers doing 100% optimized rots
so like @storm badge levels of sweaty
yeah even when bidoof said in the title event that m20s are possible
this is what I get for not hard focusing muku chief
yeah
indeed
I don't think I'll even be able to reach above 4k this season though
I think you are forgetting something important
nobody wants a concerto with basi a3 for high level content
oh right I have tina 0
mf f2p have like tina 5 by now
Why I cannot hear sound while talking to npc
they don't make sound
Ty
rather only special story dialogues will have sound
Oooo
if you mean can't hear ANY sound in general, I have no idea though
music should still play during dialogue I believe
nappo, soundless, wraith, & DoD all probably doable if you make use of buffs w/strong team
but cage & snake dps checks for full f2p team are brutal
also the 500 attribute buff food next week
my perspective of f2p is skewed a bit
if you have a5 gold then you're beyond what I imagine as f2p
I know it's completely reasonable for a day one player to have by now but what about the people who just started this season? they'd have to sacrifice a ton and still probably won't have it
I mean depends as well how fashion prioritized
ehhh
i have a friend who started s2
and just got t5 chief like a week ago

i think its more so cooked if u DONT have one by now
as an active player thats not like brand new
theres also @storm badge who went from no chief to T5 Chief
from like 2 weeks before S2 to now
and he didnt spend any red orbs on it
most day 1 f2p players have 2 T5 SR's by now
as long as they're not getting more than 2 imagines
switching means they prob did pick up a 3rd if not more
but that's also why f2ps are pretty reliant on being patient to see balance patches before committing
wtf
my account is so bricked from fashion man
the highest imagine i have is t1 funnily enough, and i've played every day since launch
it's time for me to post The Screenshot once again
this + I focus on fashion as a f2p
dorothy, nice
how was I supposed to know that it was just better to offclass a class in a main stat I don't even have
in 140 gear
like
why is she SO BAD
like I was doing more damage with undergeared frostbeam in 140 gear
with no skill books
hey, what's bad to you is amazing damage to a LB
I'm a concerto though
and I still think it's bad
like a lb can switch to frostbeam too
i don't think anyone is saying dorothy is good, but she does have some crowd-control i suppose, which is something
lol did you change classes like 5x + focus on fashion
its ok though, s3 is like a catchup season
just 3 classes
moonstrike, block, and concerto
WHY DO YOU HAVE THAT MANY OF THOSE
what is this? Should have at least one T5 Gold Imagine.. what is this impostor
my account is so cooked
I have a choice between making muku 3 and basi 3 right now
Most F2P player right now should have at least one T5 Gold Imagine
yeah but I pursue fashion
and multiclass
so
it's cooked
hopefully one day they let me undo my mistake of making dorothy
I also multiclass as well
I mean I only went for her will cause I had the mats laying around so it's not like I'd use those on anything else though
but that's a whole bunch of fragments I could use
what
even t5 is terrible surely?
even if you made her twice as strong I think she'd still be bad
nearly all of my luno goes into fashion
I have 4 ssr rn and I should be able to get the alt version of the next banner when it comes out
and pretty much every clothing I own is dyed, some several times
so if I hard focused one class I'd probably have a tier 5 right now but unfortunately I couldn't stick to one class
didn't realize she have pickaxe on her back the whole time
so she's a miner huh

?
WHERES MY T5 TINA
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Well yeah going for 3 NPCs as f2p unless you lucked hard on gacha is huge resource sink
Plus spreading yourself for imagines for every role rather specialized it seems like 
Is global going to do the same thing CN did with trade center, that if you buy something from trade center its perma bound?
Wow that's alot
Bro I'm not sweaty
afaik yes
Okay got it
I had enough mats laying around for all of the npcs so all I had to do was pull
where do you get more of these kind of emotes?
Money
yes but where in the store? i dont see other ones that people are using
Oh idk i was just being cryptic
There was a set of airona emotes that was sold in the store for $5 but it’s gone now
i dont think full f2p comps are possible tbh for some masters
you need like ~3.5-4m dps for most of these bosses, and that's pretty hard to hit without t5 tina & support imagines
Possible on cn because they get literally 10 times as much stuff for free
tru
200 cheer up treats from a recent event
700 rose orbs WEEKLY as their weekly maint compensation
CN gets more cores going into each season too
2 full week’s worth ahead of us going into S3 respectively
Plus all the delay comp
So they be swimming
Cn f2p and global f2p are completely different because they can get like a t2 npc imagine for free in one season just due to handouts, shouldn’t use cn f2p as a metric
LMAO TRUE
Nah
it's more like
Should be checking their refines/imagines instead
GLB can get T3 NPC imagine for free, CN gets T4
It would have been comparable if the devs didn't make the 200 iq play to replace the anticipated accessible mentor event with red orbs for a whale only m17 speedrun event 
The devs did not decide to do that
The mentor event also wasn’t from the devs
It was by some guy
I never heard of it being a community event before, what are you talking about 
Mr118 isn’t an official dev or staff
I didn't see it as him being the one who started and managed the event, but someone in charge of helping for the event because of his community helper role.
He hadn't really talked before that either.
it was bidoof's idea no?
He was managing the whole event by himself, not unlike how starlights handling the current mastery score event by themselves
and afaik APLUS simply signed off on it
oh you mean the S1 thing
which they're now formalizing into the game-ish next season?
I remember several members of the community team mentioning how they were manually approving / disapproving mentor applications
So I highly doubt he was managing the entire thing by himself

Yea for the discord side of things
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ty
Dang so close

approving / disapproving was pretty minimal work
in comparison to the dump that was the end work of the confirmation of scores
They made it sound like it was a ton of work so I hav e no clue xD
But yeah... true
Did they confirm scores though?

I could be skewed but multiple of my mentees never had their scores confirmed initially
I got the full double orbs so I don’t care about anyone else experiences yippee
wow
and that was the mistake, since aside from free will wish coins, every 10 pulls is 4 gold mats w/o mystery discount.... that adds up fast to pull you behind on mats
vertical progression is so important to be on top
64 mats if I pulled all of them, though a decent amount of those pulls were for free
I still wouldnt have an a5 with those extra mats though
I only had like separate materials but I didn't get the ones exactly as boss drops or form Vaults so I had too make my time gaining these things
?
Any good farming spot for Luno Bound?
reclaim hub
Reclaim hub? Why
most people dont reclaim their luno
I do that alot actually whenever Resets happen










