#questions-and-help

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outer ice
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i shall try my best

wraith stag
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LMAO

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Go to season store -> Reclaim Hub

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should have a ton of freebies in there, currency too

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can buy both easily

outer ice
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okii

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also, how can I climb walls :')?

outer ice
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imma change my game to eng rly quick

outer ice
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yeah i saw it but i saw that u can get some sort of "boss" items there

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should I really "waste" mmy currency (50k) on the luna?

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this ig?

sullen bobcat
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poor guy posted raid comm in world chat

sullen bobcat
sullen bobcat
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click on your adventurer level in the profile menu, then click on the potential tab

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doesn't work in most dungeons and you need stamina to do it as well

outer ice
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just activate them all thanks alot <3

sullen bobcat
sullen bobcat
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I usually keep a few off like wall jump, auto vault, and air dance

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just a personal preference

outer ice
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idk what air dance is il try it all out with playing tbh

sullen bobcat
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if you hold spacebar for long enough you'll start floating upwards

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it kills all momentum and is really slow

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useful in only a few situations

outer ice
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i could asume catch fall dmg or smth like that xd

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OMG ARE THOSE EARS?

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:O

sullen bobcat
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it only works after a jump, so you can't catch fall damage with it

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I don't think they are ears

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in the first place I don't think there is fall damage

outer ice
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sry fopr capslock

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what the diff between bound and unbound luna?

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( wanted to buy the talent thingies to then go iton iaido spec xd, thought i got get more dmg after taking 3 minutes or smth for a few golbins :c )

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i assume thunder sigils are the icons the thunder emojis if i may say and the intent is th 16/100?

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,actually nvm i really gotta go to bed now
gn yall sleep and dream well ๐Ÿซถ

solid turtle
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how do i do the "A Familiar face" quest to get 3 encounters for the 3 collab summons? when i click the quest it just takes me to the harbor

pure nacelle
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it only exists if you don't have potentials on tho

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so after like early game fall damage is turned off

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but you can always test it by turning off all the potentials and then jumping off a cliff

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actually here i got you

sullen bobcat
pure nacelle
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i believe like once you get your fourth or fifth jump

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you no longer take fall damage

sullen bobcat
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oh that would make sense

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idk why anyone would turn jumps off

short coral
crisp relic
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do you get notif raid party if you open trade market? just browse market then close it, not in party anymore

keen mortar
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shield spec do Ineed a lot of haste or balance out with mastery?

buoyant pebble
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<@&599291260301344768>

dusty hamlet
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i accidently brought 2x the same G10 boxes and opened them can i dismantle and buy the correct G10 i want?

wraith stag
dusty hamlet
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๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿ˜ž

keen mortar
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should I just leave thisthing?

umbral lintel
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Those things can drop a rare cosmetic

keen mortar
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yeah no ones coming I think

tacit flame
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That's because everyone is doing raid, dungeon, sitmen vault and etc

keen mortar
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welp I should try killing it

umbral lintel
keen mortar
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Im just gonna play league

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dunno that discord

umbral lintel
keen mortar
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ye

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line 20

umbral lintel
keen mortar
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dunno but I know there is sfj guy always on world chat if that will help

umbral lintel
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That would explain why nothing is there for me.

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Cuz this server is for global

keen mortar
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im on sea?

umbral lintel
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Idk.

keen mortar
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I also play on PC so I thought Im on global

grim dome
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Does anyone know if there are plans for another mentor event before it's added in game in s3?

pastel eagle
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they have a catch up system

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i think new players start at 2400 IS?

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nah

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they increase your base stats

next cargo
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does anyone know how to fix ms issues my ms used to be 20-40 now its stuck at 233ms and now my zdps wont work either but for anything else my internet is perfectly fine.

tacit flame
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what is the M15/M16 IS requirement?

gentle totem
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They said it will take up to s4 to fix lag

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It's a deep issue

grim dome
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I don't think a discord event takes away from dev๐Ÿค” and the last one event was fun, anything to get people together more ๐Ÿ˜

grim dome
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Damn sorry that happened but I've had nothing but good experience with being mentored and mentoring. Do hope we at least get an answer on if there are plans for it AironaDone

wraith stag
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Turns out, if you teach new players ( omg ) they can clear while being far under the "normal" Ability Score

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As long as they hit the IS requirements, which should be easy if you login more than once per week, should be fine.

wraith stag
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We don't get all M15's unlocked for another...

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It might look hard to hit 3150 right now, but on CN new players spawned at 3k IS towards the end of the season

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If anything, the main issue wouldn't be the IS but the time frame

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You'd have under 3 weeks to finish before S3

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May 29 is S3

umbral lintel
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Oh right they shortened season 2

wraith stag
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ThinkPika they did?

umbral lintel
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It used to be June 4th

wraith stag
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:thonk

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so i wasn't crazy

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I had that on my calendar

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thought i just messed up

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didn't know they shortened it

wraith stag
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new players should get 6 piece raid for free from Reclaim hub

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unironically

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They'd get to jump from 4 piece to 6 piece 170

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And they should get weapon from Reclaim Hub too

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So I don't think new players would have much issue with IS, they'd only need to farm 4 pieces of 160 gear and reforge it

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Reclaim gets them most of the way to level 100 too

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CMIIW though, but I never saw the event as "find brand new player, drag them through M15/M16 when they haven't even learned their character much less the game yet"

wraith stag
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Had to teach him the pathing, but after he learned it he did great ThinkPika

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we were definitely jailed for some of the runs though TeriRead

wraith stag
vital gate
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Ive been in two different homesteads. One lvled to max, the other at lvl 7 now. And yet this achievement is only at 1/2. anyone know how to get this in shared homestead?

spark current
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I think u need to expand the actual home island

rustic temple
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You need to talk with the NPC that you do the daily turn-ins with

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He have a dialogue option for " expanding ", it costs a bunch of homestead coins

river gate
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any way to level up homestead faster?

untold yew
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just tried the game for the first time today and from the couple hours i played im really disappointed, the story quests are pretty bad imo - half of the interactions arent even voiced and whenever you get a cinematic for a boss fight, it dies in 2 hits

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should i just use the lvl 60 boost or is the story worth doing?

wraith stag
untold yew
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hows the game after that? is it the usual grind, do harder dungeons, get better gear, repeat?

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from what i saw the combat has some depth to it and possibly a skill ceiling for optimizing rotations so id like to give that a try at least, but felt kinda bleh when everything dies in 1 hit even as level 1

tiny zodiac
untold yew
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hm guess ill see how it goes with the lvl boost

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ty for the quick replies

keen mortar
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So what do now kinda feeling stuck

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do I grind gears?

deft elm
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Hi I'm maining LB as an F2P and I often don't have time to grind content. When I do get extra mats/gears tho, which F2P Friendly DPS would be good for S2 (and maybe can push through S3) - icicle, falcon, MS or ?

brave spade
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When you place an item on the market, I noticed it's not immediately visible for sale. How long does it take for it to become visible?

tiny zodiac
brave spade
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mostly curious so i can figure out if its possible to sell my main stuff at min price from an alt (to minimize fees etc)

tiny zodiac
# keen mortar do I grind gears?

Yes grind gear, make sure all your gear is at least 120 first and grind dungeons for their respective reforge stones to upgrade said gear. Then grind 140 gear, etc etc

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Reclaim hub should be able to get you your 4 piece raid set by now? Maybe more

tiny zodiac
brave spade
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the sniping is what im concerned about yeah, but for example for items that sell at max price typically, was thinking i could sell them at min if the timing is 10mins exact every time, might be possible to do?

tiny zodiac
brave spade
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i see

wraith stag
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What are you trying to do this with

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if it's say, refine materials, that's kinda random

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If it's Imagine materials or the Imagine itself, it's an hour after listing

keen mortar
tiny zodiac
# keen mortar raid set?

You get raid gear components for completing the Dreambloom raids, clash + brutal gives you pieces for 140 raid gear and nightmare gives you components for 160. The honor coin shop will also give you raid gear components, you'll see some fragments in there with dreamer/Weaver in their names.

So basically just farm out gold gear and get stronger, illusion score really matters this season. Then when you're at a point where you can challenge the raids, you do that so that you can get raid gear

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Raid gear is strong for the majority of the classes, as they'll give higher stats as well as giving you a set bonus at 2 and 4 pieces

woeful canyon
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Are there any google docs or youtube videos fairly up to date I should see as a new player who just started two days ago?

I'm noticing that even with lv. 160 equipment, I'm outputting pretty much no damage, so I'm assuming refinements play a huge role towards that but I'm unsure what substats I should prioritize as a frost mage.

dawn trail
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you get reforge stones from weekly honor coins, weekly gear shop, daily instable dungeons and weekly chaotic dungeons m6+ clears

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use your reclaim hub if you haven't, should probably be able to max out your skills to level 6

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also if your illusion score is lower than the required amount, you deal like 95% less damage

woeful canyon
wraith stag
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First of all welcome to the game! Heart

  • There are class guides, what class are you?
  • If you don't have enough Illusion Score, you will do greatly reduced damage, it's possible you are fighting something you aren't ready for yet.
  • If you are Frostbeam, It's an AoE only class and the weakest single target DPS in the game, so that could be a factor.
  • Refinements don't play a huge role in that, It's mostly Imagines and Reforges ThinkPika
  • Have you gotten everything you can from the reclaim hub?
  • Can I see a picture of your stats? Gasp
woeful canyon
wraith stag
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ThinkPika missing a bit from reclaim hub for adventurer level

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Probably missing the skill levels + advancements too

woeful canyon
wraith stag
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kekpat yeah

gilded mason
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im laggy on obtianing how to fix?

wraith stag
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You can get some pieces of raid gear with the Alloy too

wraith stag
woeful canyon
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Is there anything else I should be buying?

dawn trail
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buy attack modules, select modules, both stardusts, and 140 reforge stones

wraith stag
# woeful canyon Just the occasional NPCs I had to fight during story quest, as well as some lvl ...

ThinkPika If the level 20 boss happened to be a world boss then it's not something meant to be soloed so that would explain it

Your stats aren't the best but you technically haven't done any endgame dungeons / raids yet so you have alot of room to build up, especially from reclaim hub.

As for what to buy, you will be able to buy everything but you should prioritize - oh wait you got most of the important stuff already ThinkPika

dawn trail
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then eventually dream bloom sigil shards

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we have 160 gear but we dont have enough stones. you probably got some gear for a level 140 raid piece set, you can use those level 140 stones to get it to 100 reforge

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level 140 raid piece set and 160 shares the raid effect so you can mix them

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idk how much reclaim hub coins you have left remaining. if you still have a lot, you can go for the rest of the modules. save them if you ever want to change classes or you can dismantle it

tiny panther
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@wraith stag what is the best fish research for catching mythical fish easily

wind quartz
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i thought research only increases chance that the fish will be 5 star but not increase the chance to catch it

static glade
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how to avoid knockback in soundless?

pure nacelle
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stand on stack, or have super armor

ember prism
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Is there will be 180s gear or nah ?

manic matrix
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160-170 gears is the last set of S2

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Only the ocean weapon goes to 180 I believe, S3 starts end of May and we'll jump to 220 gears

solemn bough
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when are we gonna hit 3250 IS without ocean oO

tiny panther
manic matrix
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Stellar Squirrelfish maybe ? Less tension while pulling
Lantern puffer and Longnose Gar are also supposed to reduce the fish swimming speed, but never got to test it

wraith stag
main latch
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and lv100

drifting bobcat
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Is there a table for how much IS do player need to do M1 - M20?

wraith stag
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I have no clue before M10 ThinkPika

tardy arch
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๐Ÿ˜ญ I thought I was gonna be able to be Kithi's 1/100 mentee this season

wraith stag
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LOL

wraith stag
wraith stag
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hard to see how they'd do event before then

drifting bobcat
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Do M20 even available right now?

wraith stag
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The first one is

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But I don't even have 3k IS ThinkPika

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let alone 3250

drifting bobcat
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Right now is only DoD unlocked?

wraith stag
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  • DoD APR 6
  • Snek APR 13
  • Wraith APR 20
  • Soundless APR 27
  • Cage MAY 4
  • Illusory MAY 11
  • Season 3 May 29
teal kayak
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does the illusionary relic exchange give class stats only on the equipment you buy there? or are they completl random as the normal drops from dungeons?

wraith stag
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It can even give stats that you can't normally find on that gear piece

blissful fractal
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Did anyone else not get glinting stellar core from ice dragon ?
Red dragon gave 1, light dragon gave 2 but ice dragon didnt drop anything ๐Ÿ‘€

blissful fractal
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I got one from red dragon but also one from golem tho; shouldnt we get from all the raids ?

pure nacelle
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any nightmare gives the stelling

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ice and capra nm share the same glint

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bone and golem nm share the same glints

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light and robot nm share the same glints

wraith stag
blissful fractal
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in total i had 5 glinting this week
1 from capra, 1 from golem, 1 from red and 2 from light

wraith stag
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I think you miscounted ThinkPika

pure nacelle
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it was 2 from golem

wraith stag
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Its the same 4 per week

blissful fractal
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ah yeah nah nvm, i got 4 this week
So the total we get doesnt change ๐Ÿค” that sucks

wraith stag
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I mean

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If you want them to make an illusion of more

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They could always just let you get more per week but increase how much you need for future upgrades

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it really wouldnt change anything besides possible placebo satisfaction

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The one time we get a difficult raid

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Its almost like not everything should be catered towards the "average player"

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It's not the end of the world if people don't clear on release week either ThinkPika this is already nerfed version compared to CN

blissful fractal
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Whats hard in that raid .. ? The whole fight is just "dont take aoes"

wraith stag
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The fight itself is easy, finding crystal holders who don't get hit and tanks who don't throw the whole fight

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that's the hard part

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Oh, the DPS check is decent too but so many people can't do dps

blissful fractal
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So the moment when people just need to dodge the red circles on the ground instead of taking the hit, people think its hard
Thats sad

wraith stag
fierce tide
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might be too punishing that just 1 stack of earthshock kills the raid

wraith stag
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I think 1 stack is fine, 2 is wipe

fierce tide
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could just be a gear issue and gets fixed once we have 160 raid gear though

blissful fractal
wraith stag
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Obligatory ewww goonstrike

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but yeah that's good DPS

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But you have people doing 200k

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and thinking that's fine

blissful fractal
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just tell them to go hit guild hall dummy until they do at least 370k and then kick them
Full H would most likely do more than that

wraith stag
blissful fractal
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even a class as nerfed as wildpack, if played correctly, is able to do 450-500k ๐Ÿ‘€ and that class is mainly H

wraith stag
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the icicle at 222k

blissful fractal
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oh lol i didnt read, saw a blue bar and assumed it was a tank

wraith stag
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LMAO

wraith stag
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450-500k per person should be the minimum expectation

fierce tide
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unless they are crystal holders

wraith stag
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Depends on the class, marksman can hold crystal without really losing any DPS at all

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or well, falconry can

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I don't know about the other classes, but I know mage is bad at it

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Falconry can outrange most attacks on Phase 1, dodge lines with double arrow and keep dpsing

Transition stage it has a long enough range to be at a safe distance while still holding crystal, double arrow abuse again for mobility

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And with radiance sped up you don't really have the risk of

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"if I use long cast and need to dodge i get fricked since i'm crystal holder"

fierce tide
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i saw a marksman get hit because they were animation locked with a skill that makes them jump

wraith stag
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Should still be well well over 500k DPS as a holder on Falcon ThinkPika

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quadraflare

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can't throw that out randomly ya, gotta watch energy and not auto

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most marksman have it on auto so that's gg

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on falcon you can't play 100% aggressively like normal, but you don't lose much DPS holding quadra for a little bit until it's safe to cast it because golem did another action

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at the very most I'd say it's 10% dps loss

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like worst case + playing safe

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so like 1m -> 900k

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taking off 25% dps cause they a whale should make it fair ThinkPika

fierce tide
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you might need to take a bit more tha 25% since you prob have 2 gold imagines or even a human imagine in there too

wraith stag
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If anything the argument would be if the team had op support buffs like tina

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My falconry is horribly built but uhh

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Granted, that's only 2 minutes in so I'd have bled out to around 900k

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maybe 800k

fierce tide
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well in our guild run our falcons did nowhere near 1 mil and they don't have oceans

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or even 700k

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lol

wraith stag
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concerning

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was there tina and concerto?

fierce tide
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yes

wraith stag
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My falconry is built as an alt for Iaido and that was a pug run ( although op tina + concerto )

fierce tide
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then again the raid was super laggy

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so who knows

wraith stag
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explains it

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ours somehow had 0 lag

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on reset too

wraith stag
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falcon really REALLY gains alot from tina

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and the pug i was in had t4 or t5

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they possibly autoplay too

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which is 10% + dps loss

tiny panther
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any mahjong expert can tell me why this isn't a win?

rustic temple
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You're in furiten, only way to win would be self draw tsumo.

ember prism
tiny panther
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what is furiten

rustic temple
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Basically you discarded your winning hand.

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And you get punished

tiny panther
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ah

soft topaz
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Yeah, if you throw away a tile that wins you the game on a different discard youโ€™re penalized by being blocked from being able to win from someone elseโ€™s discard until you toss the affected tiles yourself

tiny seal
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Aye is there anywhere we can find a mission list for each map? Cuz Iโ€™m in Moonshadow and I only did like 4-5 missions and they stopped popping up. Like thereโ€™s still 2 Teleportation Devices I ainโ€™t even been to/near๐Ÿ™ƒ

pure nacelle
# tiny panther what is furiten

To explain a little bit in depth, your hand was in furiten before you pon'd the white.

Your hand was presumably:
123 99 WW

And if you hovered the ? to see winning tiles, you would've had:
9 or W

Even if 9 doesn't lead to a hand worth value (with yaku), because it exists in that set of hand completion tiles and you discarded the 9 tile, your entire hand enters a state of furiten, where you can no longer win off of discards, and thus must self draw.

You're allowed to still pon, but now you must discard a tile and then redraw it in order to claim the win, or achieve a different set of winning tiles to exit furiten.

round crow
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Anyone have an updated Module Optimizer?

umbral lintel
round crow
umbral lintel
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Itโ€™s the name of a dps meter

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Google zdps bpsr. Itโ€™s on GitHub

brave spade
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How do Starshine Oil buffs compare to Serums?
i.e., what is "+1250 thunder strength" and how does that compare to "+800 phy boost"?
And this is a "in general" question - not specifically for stormblade. What instances would one pick the Oil's "lower" boost over the Serums higher one?

pure nacelle
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if you have a lot of elemental% / thunder% and no phys boost

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as in 50%+ ele and 0% phys difference

brave spade
pure nacelle
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that and the element bonus above it

brave spade
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I see, ty

river gate
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just wondering--how are people getting prices lower than the far left side of the slider?

ionic dagger
river gate
woeful canyon
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Is it recommended to buy luno from season store or reclaim hub?

ionic dagger
weak karma
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Is the Bloom Sigil box random?

sullen bobcat
weak karma
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Oh thank you

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Is T2 Rorola better than T5 purple Blackfire Fox Imagine?

lime cipher
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ive recently returned to the game an keep dying to the big aoe attack on soundless city boss

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idk how to do that part of the boss

weak karma
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@wraith stag I am a Moonstrike though

wraith stag
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Oh Im blind

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I read that as fox not blackfire fox

wraith stag
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ur still iaido right

tiny zodiac
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So I'd imagine Rorola to be better than fox

wraith stag
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goonstrike*

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please use the proper term

tiny zodiac
wraith stag
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adds to hitlist

tiny zodiac
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Not my fault devs can't properly bug fix or balance

wraith stag
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the way i see it

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any goonstrike sympathizer is just as guilty

tiny zodiac
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Moonstrike has always been riddled with bugs

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I was a Moonstrike believer even before it was known to be solid

wraith stag
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first off, its goonstrike

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second, it was always known to be solid

tiny zodiac
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Definitely not in early season 1. We were all discriminated against Wearona

wraith stag
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nah

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already knew if u paid any attention to CN / cc

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ppl knew from before server was even out

tiny zodiac
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Even during mid season 1, many pugs were refusing me for being Moonstrike AironaDone

tiny zodiac
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And we had a shitty CC here spreading Moonstrike lies

tiny zodiac
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Back on release

wraith stag
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we need to go back to those times

tiny zodiac
wraith stag
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Ironically I know alot of

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people who are refusing people just because they hate goonstrikes

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and its unironically not me

tiny zodiac
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That's fair

wraith stag
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apparently they tend to

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kick people if they arent lifebind

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leave mid run if they dont have lifebind

tiny zodiac
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I feel bad for a lot of healers

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YEAH

wraith stag
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demand tina more than any class

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etc kleekicant

tiny zodiac
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It sickens me

wraith stag
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like goonstrike somehow became public enemy on a few servers LMAO

tiny zodiac
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Anytime I see a healer asking me if they need to change psychoscopes or swap to LB, it pains my heart

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Play what you want little buddy idc ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Just heal me

wraith stag
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LMAO its actually sad yeah

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personally idc what healer they are as long as they either have tina or have the dps to back up not having tina

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but thats just an iaido thing too

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since we are uber reliant on it

tiny zodiac
wraith stag
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apparently goonstrikes built their 80% speed threshold around having lifebind or something

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so they just refuse to play with any class other than lifebind

tiny zodiac
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Crit moons do, yeah

wraith stag
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instead of reforging

tiny zodiac
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Not regular Moonstrikes

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The OG purists

wraith stag
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crit goons are just

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bandwagoners

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thus much worse than the average goon

sullen bobcat
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20k dps take it or leave it

sullen bobcat
pure nacelle
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since they can hit their 100% crit with igor

sullen bobcat
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who will they be gatekeeping

pure nacelle
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non-lifebinds

sullen bobcat
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it revolves around lifebinds again

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with tina

pure nacelle
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when you build your stats around a certain breakpoint

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its what happens when a class grants hard stats and the others dont

pure nacelle
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comparing fox to t2 rorola is pretty useless when t5 muku scout gaps fox

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so the comparison should be ms5 vs rr2

tiny zodiac
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Oh that's true

weak karma
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thank you

river gate
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any point in doing these quests?

umbral lintel
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some old s1 quests unlock s2 quests but i couldnt say which one

river gate
pure nacelle
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reputation

wraith stag
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(ironically I'm pretty sure concerto buffs iaido more than LB)

lilac sparrow
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Can i link my account to another email?

gusty hemlock
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.

solemn bough
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do you need maxed out lv 160 gear for 3250 IS?

pure nacelle
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yes

ancient saffron
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auto-combat not using rorola ever, anyone else? ps. (after game restart, it was fixed...?)

kind otter
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SEA player, is the unlimited reforge stones wil be available for 140 and 160 gear?

urban nexus
kind otter
#

aight, thanks for the confirmation!

wise trail
#

Which one is more in demand in late game? beat performer or verdant oracle

deep nacelle
wise trail
wraith stag
#

I'd argue Concerto #1 for Raids but hated everywhere else kekfacepalm

#

But there's not a problem playing both because of that

tardy arch
#

NM enjoyers, are you able to make your second raid piece this week?

weak karma
#

Yes, after countless hours though. It takes a lot of coordination from everyone also high dps check at the end.

safe cliff
#

somehow I met 4 concertos farming dungeons yesterday

#

where did they all come from NoWay

meager pilot
#

my mystery shop when i havent bought rose orbs in a while lol

safe cliff
#

you know what you must do...

indigo basin
#

Hi! quick question, which is better, two lv165 raid gear or one lv170 raid gear?

wraith stag
#

170!

indigo basin
#

thanks Kitchi!!!

neon needle
#

Feedback exploded, lols. People getting fed up over imagines.. bit late to change anything now tho.. it won't bring [most] people back.

neon needle
#

Can negative react all you want, it doesn't change the truth. :x

quaint ermine
#

what was the complaint

wraith stag
#

It was factually wrong a_KEKW

#

I think Eien just wants to stir up drama / discussion on the topic ThinkPika

safe cliff
#

I think you can argue for giving new players better catchup on imagines, though I think another way to address that is just make purple imagine good, which some are already tbh.

wraith stag
#

This is it "exploding"

safe cliff
#

but I don't think existing players should get any boost to imagine build rate, since that's fine right now IMO

wraith stag
#

And it's disregarding so many things

#
  • There is already random emblem materials in reclaim for catch up
  • There is literally so much other stuff in reclaim already, give ocean mats yeah, but they don't need free imagines just to catch up
  • Purple Imagines are T2.5
quaint ermine
#

"significant drop of player spending real money"

#

man i see

#

more and more ocean

#

by day

wraith stag
#

That's why I thumbs down, everything is just

#

wrong

#

They do include many things related to imagines...

#

Why would a new player be using T0 Gold over T5 Purples

#

In many cases ( Marksman as an example ) T5 Purple is comparable to T3 Gold

safe cliff
#

to be fair I don't think MMOs generally do very aggressive catchup mechanics since it devalues existing effort; bpsr is probably already an outlier in how much you can get while not playing

wraith stag
#

^^^^

#

It's already one of the best

#

out of 100~ mmorpgs

#

In terms of giving catchup stuff to new players

#

In other games you had to spend months just to hit endgame

#

And you couldn't dream of doing the endgame raids this quickly

#

If people got that much stuff just for showing up it would make it so that you don't even need to play the game to be semi competitive.

#

This isn't AFK arena :/

wraith stag
# wraith stag

And we haven't reached a point where new players need T3 Gold just because they show up

#

The one Imagine copy was great, keep that so tank players can get their tempest ogre

#

(by that I mean the 100 fragment compensation)

wraith stag
quaint ermine
#

hm

#

maybe just slightly more stimens reclaim

#

to make it a little better

safe cliff
#

Now I will say... glinting cores is probably a different topic. Any potential new player starting today being down 200 cores is just going to dissuade them, especially if they're tryhard.

wraith stag
#

Didn't devs say they would

#

address that ThinkPika

safe cliff
#

yeah, I think they'll probably do something regarding glinting

#

should probably just make the deficit always 80 or 100 or whatever regardless of when you start

wraith stag
safe cliff
#

which also discourages buying starter accounts

quaint ermine
#

that makes doing NM useless but then again

#

s1 NM is like 30 seconds rn

quaint ermine
#

comes with 100 fragment

#

and a twin axe skin (the same series as the free one from s1 sign in)

#

but the first 3 days is the fairies vtuber thing

#

so idk if that sign on is cn exclusive

#

feel like theyll just change the first 3 days to something else

wraith stag
quaint ermine
#

the strat for new player starting s3

#

would just be

#

reroll modules from reclaim

#

until you get a solid whale level module

wraith stag
quaint ermine
#

to kinda make up alittle

#

for the lack of imagines

wraith stag
#

alot* -sobs-

#

bro on falconry

#

Lifewave 6

#

is stronger than

#

damage stack + agility 6

quaint ermine
#

i rolled a character for fun

wraith stag
#

thats so cooked

quaint ermine
#

it was 100 modules

wraith stag
quaint ermine
#

i got LW666 since it has 5 slots now

wraith stag
#

time to reroll my main acc

quaint ermine
#

i believe its LW6 Agil 6 too

#

on a marksman account

wraith stag
quaint ermine
#

plus another 6

safe cliff
#

am I the only one who thinks lifewave should be nerfed lol

wraith stag
#

it should ...

safe cliff
#

the condition was supposed to be hard to activate

wraith stag
#

unhealthy

safe cliff
#

but now all it does it enforce lifebind comps

quaint ermine
wraith stag
#

and disso / concerto comps

safe cliff
#

plus it's too strong

quaint ermine
#

concerto and smite and also activate it in s3

wraith stag
#

rein

#

look at this

safe cliff
#

well still it should get a number nerf IMO ๐Ÿ˜„

quaint ermine
#

i think its fine

#

with another module slot in s3

#

most ppl should have LW

wraith stag
safe cliff
#

5-6% stat boost seems like plenty...

wraith stag
#

sm*te mains confuse me rein

#

please

#

explain this to me

quaint ermine
#

looks like a dps smite account though

#

makes sense why they dont have tina

wraith stag
#

but

#

why would they have

safe cliff
wraith stag
#

T2 Airona...

quaint ermine
#

cause amber is free

wraith stag
#

but airona is not

#

bro 3 copies

quaint ermine
#

maybe they got it while rolling for GK5

#

for the int passive

wraith stag
#

wot ppl roll for SR on gacha?>

#

isn't the rates absurdly low

quaint ermine
#

i didnt know build diversity exist in this game

quaint ermine
#

my last 10 pull was 2 GK

wraith stag
wraith stag
#

i will just cope that

#

lifewave isnt that big on us

#

because i still dont have one...

#

let alone lvl 6

safe cliff
wraith stag
#

but yeah it should be either hard to trigger or

#

nerf the effect

#

and boost cast focus since its basically worthless

#

if anything, agile? was it should be the op one

safe cliff
#

they could adjust lw down a bit and boost agile a bit

wraith stag
#

wow great minds

safe cliff
#

I think concept of agile is pretty good

wraith stag
#

yeah it rewards perfect play and not getting hit

#

that should be a good dps ceiling one

safe cliff
#

but you know people will just demand big shields from support instead lol

wraith stag
#

and the one where your hp changes should definitely not be the broken god tier dps one kleekicant

quaint ermine
#

idk if they want to adjust modules

quaint ermine
#

considering some ppl spend thousands on it

wraith stag
#

it says taking damage, you still took damage

safe cliff
#

I think maybe both effects should just be 'taking hits' rather than hp changing or taking damage

wraith stag
#

just to your shield

quaint ermine
#

would be a bad move

wraith stag
#

but rein

#

i spent 1 million usd on my iaido

#

and my iaido is no longer op

quaint ermine
#

especially cause alot of ppl dismantle it

wraith stag
quaint ermine
#

hm

safe cliff
#

I have 1 agile 10 module...

quaint ermine
#

at least rn

safe cliff
#

could get there one day Laugh

quaint ermine
#

msot of imagines havent depreciate that much

wraith stag
#

trueee

quaint ermine
#

and class change events makes it easy to swap

#

but changing modules

#

idk i could see alot of complaints

wraith stag
#

kinda like how they made life wave better

quaint ermine
#

ya thats fair

wraith stag
#

they could always nerf it by removing supports ability to easily proc it

safe cliff
#

yeah, I think that's good

quaint ermine
#

plus ppl who dismantle their good rare trait modules are just dummies

#

i keep my agiles

wraith stag
#

what about

#

uhhh

#

the one that heals you on attacking

#

bro idr the name its that bad

quaint ermine
#

life steal?

wraith stag
#

life something

quaint ermine
#

i keep that one too

wraith stag
#

lifesteal yaaa

quaint ermine
wraith stag
#

wow

safe cliff
#

I'm still keeping lifesteal for now lol

quaint ermine
#

i mean dismantling gives so little

safe cliff
#

totally worthles for me though

quaint ermine
#

might as well keep just in case

wraith stag
#

i just want whatever will be good on my hopefully s4 assassin

safe cliff
#

t5 olvera

brave spade
#

Loaded question I imagine, but any idea what an average DPS range for F2P players, vs high spenders?
Wondering how well I'm doing

wraith stag
#

Depends on class

#

If you are an icicle you can probably do a googol dps like @quaint ermine

brave spade
#

figured, well since im stormblade how about that?

wraith stag
#

Are you a based Iaido or a goonstrike

brave spade
#

im iaidio but im wondering average/general, not specifically what i do

wraith stag
#

You are based and may your dps be blessed prayge

#

That depends though like, we are super reliant on Tina

quaint ermine
wraith stag
#

Team buffs / Concerto / Lifebind / Tina

#

I even have a meme

brave spade
#

I'm doing about 400k but I'm also only 4 weeks into the game, there was a marksman in a group i was in that was doing around 600k. is that high spender territory or is that average for marksman?

wraith stag
#

Ideally you'd do dummy dps then compare that imo ThinkPika

wraith stag
#

400k is pretty good for being new imo

brave spade
#

i see. any idea what a moonstrike would be doing? assuming not new player but f2p?

wraith stag
#

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww goonstrike

brave spade
#

i dont plan on changing tbh its boring af

wraith stag
#

ok ur back to being based

brave spade
#

i hear iaido getting buffed in s3 too so i dont see a point

wraith stag
#

I'd say they probably do about 30% more DPS than us ThinkPika

brave spade
#

i see

#

Whats your dps and are you f2p?

wraith stag
#

On dummy?

brave spade
#

yeah

wraith stag
#

And I'm a non spender but I'm also a day 1 tryhard that bought and resold stuff kleekicant

wraith stag
# brave spade yeah

hmm, I don't know about dummy but I can probably get an old stimens dps brb

brave spade
#

thats fine too

wraith stag
#

Can I ask what your rating is? Gasp

#

Ability Score I mean

brave spade
#

44k ish

wraith stag
#

ok this will be a good example of how much team buffs matter

#

That's what makes it hard to compare kleekicant

brave spade
#

which are you?

wraith stag
#

Like my DPS here was hard carried by @west quarry being top lifebind with op tina prayge

#

Kiana

quaint ermine
brave spade
wraith stag
#

Oh

#

if that 600k was

#

dummy

wraith stag
#

WDYM OFF

west quarry
#

T3 tina WHOM

wraith stag
#

NoWay SEE T3 Tina F2P is GOATED

west quarry
#

T3 tina carrying these days

wraith stag
quaint ermine
wraith stag
#

some classes have passives like "deal ALOT more damage to low hp targets" and dummy stays at 1 hp

#

some classes benefit from buffs in different ways or have hitbox issues

#

etc

quaint ermine
#

isnt it just wolf that has that

wraith stag
#

still a marksman!

#

but theres also ppl who use uhh

#

decimate

quaint ermine
#

decimate?

wraith stag
#

just outright deal 15% more damage with this

#

best part is wolf takes it too...

quaint ermine
#

ah

wraith stag
#

really inflates their dps to unrealistic heights

#

wolf also has that whole

#

if you dodge your damage falls off a cliff thing

#

omg its the ocean donor

soft topaz
#

wait, are F2Ps really not able to get to 3250 IS?

wraith stag
#

I'm not even 3000 IS

soft topaz
#

or is the feedback lying

wraith stag
#

Oh

#

Feedback prolly jumping gun

soft topaz
#

the feedback suggests the cap is 3200

wraith stag
#

you hit 3250 fully reforged

soft topaz
#

without ocean

wraith stag
#

ocean is 3300

soft topaz
#

this is level 100 dream right

wraith stag
#

ye

soft topaz
#

ok so the guy's just madge about not being able to day 1 M20

quaint ermine
soft topaz
#

because you should be 3250 IS pace the same week we get 4p 160 raid

wraith stag
#

only reforge stone whales can

quaint ermine
#

i think theres a slight IS difference at the end after fully reforge

#

but it doesnt matter that much

soft topaz
#

right it's kind of helpful that they only open one dungeon's M11-20 at a time

quaint ermine
#

even if they open everything

wraith stag
#

i bet icicles can clear with 1k is

soft topaz
#

once we get M11-20 wraith shrine the Day 1ers should have enough IS/gear to push

cursive whale
#

Does anyone know if I should invest in a current imagine? Or should I wait for any potential Fairy Tail collab imagines to come out in May?

dawn trail
#

f2p atm can get 3050~ IS

cursive whale
#

thinking of swapping to twin striker in S3

dawn trail
#

but if you're only 4 weeks into the game, that's pretty good

wraith stag
#

Fairy tail Imagines

brave spade
wraith stag
#

But honestly, should wait to see if there's any balancing

cursive whale
cursive whale
#

might be copium

wraith stag
#

LMAO

#

current collab is so bad ive been skipping it

cursive whale
#

FR

#

I'm just praying that any possible Natsu imagine would be BiS for twin striker

brave spade
wraith stag
#

ThinkPika haste

#

looks concerning

brave spade
#

I was reading you only need 55-60% crit, 30% mastery then to get haste up? is that incorrect?

wraith stag
#

I don't think you'd be able to fit everything into your volt surge rotation with only 14%

brave spade
#

should i just keep focusing on crit & mastery?

#

oh its not high enough?

#

i get like 10-11 iaidio (including 1-2 cuts) -> flash per surge

wraith stag
#

Yeah, if you have Blackfire Fox ( which you should ) you don't really need to stack any mastery at all

#

After getting enough crit you just focus on Haste til breakpoint then versatility

brave spade
#

60% crit is good enough yeah?

wraith stag
#

yupp

#

Ideally I believe you want 29.23% ATK speed

#

assuming good ping

soft topaz
brave spade
#

does the Atk speed purple stats from gear show up in haste?

soft topaz
#

supposedly FT is better, but we've only the word of the comm team for that

wraith stag
#

AGI gives Haste
Haste gives ATK speed

quaint ermine
#

I really doubt itโ€™ll be an imagine

wraith stag
#

hit attributes on char menu

quaint ermine
wraith stag
#

to see it

soft topaz
#

nah no way

#

that would be ridic lol

wraith stag
#

you'd need to reforge / sigil / gear roll ( either works )

wraith stag
#

Ideally you want to fit in

#

10 Iaido 10 Flash 2 TC

brave spade
#

ah yeah its like 9-10 actually, just counted

wraith stag
#

But with lifebind buff and 29.23% ish base atk speed you can do 11/10/2 though!

brave spade
#

anyway ty for the info, helps

wraith stag
brave spade
#

Just that top section

wraith stag
#

not at pc atm x.x

brave spade
#

ah np

cursive whale
#

but what's funny is that it's so bad, that ppl who would've spent on Fairy Tail are just quitting the game or closing their wallets for this game

neon needle
cursive whale
#

if Fairy Tail is the same ticket based system with gacha pulling

#

I'm going to crash out

soft topaz
#

oh given the new achievements

#

100% it will be, the only question is the content in it

cursive whale
#

hopefully there's at least weapon skins or something that's actually good

left marlin
#

Can anyone confirm if this is real?

cursive whale
#

then it's real

autumn marsh
#

Yes

soft topaz
#

Oh wow, nice

#

So we get first half next week

umbral lintel
#

Oh wow

#

Thatโ€™s crazy. They listened

tacit flame
#

Now, they just need to listen and make collab outfit dye able

indigo basin
tacit flame
#

May should be doable

indigo basin
#

and with the overpowered imagines coming on season 3, the gap gets even biggerrrrrr

tacit flame
#

Bruh. CHILL

left marlin
#

๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ

indigo basin
#

all my hard work for farming, is gonee in 1month, im crying

tacit flame
#

It is every season in every game

#

It resets.

indigo basin
#

yeah, its a trauma i get after season 1 ended XD

tacit flame
#

That's the new trend nowadays

#

Back then it was level cap increase. Now MMO these days are seasonal

#

Time have change

lethal arrow
#

the guild blessings for raid are working?

indigo basin
#

I actually prefer that cuz i get to keep my gears and all my hard work from previous season feels like it was worth it

tacit flame
#

Most games is following the seasonal

indigo basin
#

I think my fav toram online is one of the few that didn't change

#

But unfortunately, i don't play it anymore after hackers got it and devs were force to delete everything

#

So everyone started again from lv1 with no items or skills

tacit flame
indigo basin
#

Yep, i hope it doesn't happen here too

grim dome
raven gate
#

Itโ€™s been a minute since Iโ€™ve been on howโ€™s the current state of the game and whatโ€™s the best dps class right now

left marlin
pine salmon
#

oh wait, content creator role hmm

nova wharf
nova wharf
river gate
#

any way to get gear refine materials faster without being megarich?

umbral lintel
#

You either use focus to get them yourself or use luno and buy them from the trade center

#

There are small amounts given in the star boxes from spending elite/boss keys

#

As well as a good amount in the guild shop

meager skiff
#

Hi, do we know what the next outfit gacha will be already?

umbral lintel
#

Check this website out if you want to know about upcoming stuff

#

Oh wait. I think Alice in wonderland is next and then the punk rocker outfit. Oh well.

meager skiff
wraith stag
#

What good is it if it doesn't come with class balancing

#

It will just be the same old Icicle Icicle Icicle

#

BUT WAIT

#

sometimes you replace an icicle ...

#

with a falcon

#

healers? lifebind only

meager pilot
#

question for the whales, how do you get around the duplicate charges if you buy $100 of rose orbs multiple times

#

the transaction keeps getting cancelled and refunded

wraith stag
#

I never heard of that being a thing but I'd just imagine they buy google / apple play

meager pilot
wraith stag
#

ok wow didnt know

meager pilot
#

the first one goes through but if i buy it a second time it doesnt

wraith stag
#

what about the official top up site vs in game

meager pilot
#

i buy it on the site

#

if i buy it in game it works bc the amount is different but then i can only do it twice

wraith stag
#

wow dang i legit didn't know thats a thing

#

raidencryy sorry i have no clue

meager pilot
#

i mean i expected it to happen bc most banks will hold a payment if its the same exact thing twice in a row

#

but then how are ppl spending the money on ocean weap

wraith stag
#

true ThinkPika

meager pilot
#

if you need to spend $2k and you can only buy $100 at a time thats 20 transactions how does that even work lol

#

i cant even do 3

safe cliff
#

just call your bank? ๐Ÿ˜„

meager pilot
#

i have to TALK to people??? on the PHONE??

safe cliff
meager pilot
nocturne shoal
#

only need to verify first time

#

paypal through epic

meager pilot
tacit flame
#

Did anybody ever test this?

#

T0 or T5 on a world boss or raid. Was there a huge damage difference?

neon needle
neon needle
# safe cliff just call your bank? ๐Ÿ˜„

It's not the bank - it's BPSR's website. Can do multiple transactions in a row for other games.. just not BPSR. You'd think they would want to make it easier for people to throw money at them, but here we are, 6 months in.. lol

soft topaz
#

yeah I checked my card once to confirm, it's BPSR's side that's declining repeat buys

neon needle
#

It was a nightmare during the Halloween event.

orchid igloo
#

what an ethnical company

#

they are preventing ppl from reckless spending

little ledge
#

When does the toturial end?

wraith stag
#

me: helps a ton of people get 3650 for mount

#

BP Devs: the mount is now 1 bound orb

manic matrix
wispy flax
#

what?

wraith stag
short coral
#

What did you expect? The team to respect your effort? To value the time you put in? 02fine

wraith stag
#

I don't look at it like that tbh kleekicant cause technically I saw alot of people sad they missed limited time season 1 stuff as a new player

#

I always expected them to do something like that for anniversary

#

just not so early

dawn trail
#

where do you get the mount for 1 bound orb

granite patio
#

is it better to breakthrough a gear to 170 or work on 165 all the raid pieces first?

dawn trail
#

170

wraith stag
#

170

#

It's slight but it's better

granite patio
#

ty!

austere thicket
#

Does Frost Shock trigger where I am or where the target hit is?

short coral
lunar isle
#

Does anyone rmb what are the mats drop from floor 50/55/60 stimen this week ?

wraith stag
#

I just remember getting alot of masks ThinkPika

#

i saw frankiee

#

buff iaido plz prayge

cobalt solar
manic matrix
#

iirc it was a Flamehorn floor 50 and 2 Goblin Chief for 55 and 60

fossil drift
#

I can't lock on enemies anymore

#

does anyone have this issue as well?

wraith stag
#

No

fossil drift
#

it's just on my stormblade

wraith stag
#

Turn on assist target lock no?

fossil drift
#

let me see

lunar isle
fossil drift
#

does it auto turn off after patch? lol

#

I didnt touch it

uncut remnant
uncut remnant
manic matrix
#

It should be a NPC at the top of the tower in Starland

uncut remnant
#

Tower Starland, right..

#

Ill go

void wharf
#

Hello guys, anyone has any idea for these 2 quests?

wind quartz
void wharf
#

oooo , thanks

brave spade
#

I've seen people posting lv180 weapons but how are those even obtained? Link said at the forge but the only weapon I see there is the lv100 one?

brave spade
#

I get that, but I don't even see the craft anywhere. I'm wondering what the materials are, etc.

wraith stag
#

Ocean

#

Far sea

#

tons of the materials for it

brave spade
#

Oh so you have to first craft the 100 and then upgrade that?

wraith stag
#

yup

#

100
140
160
180

brave spade
#

Do long term players have any of the earlier ones or do they require a lot of money investment as well?

brave spade
#

Oh wow

wraith stag
#

technically if someone was to do nothing but save

#

they'd have it rn

#

i have some friends with over 30m luno cause they never spent any

#

but thats more of an outlier

brave spade
#

Somewhat related, when putting money into the game, what way do people get unbound luno from the orbs? Selling the orbs or pulling wish and selling those? (Which method is usually better, I mean)

round crow
#

Just wanna ask for S2 wild pack or falcon?

wraith stag