and spec change is cheap
#questions-and-help
indigo basin
Yeahh, i thought muko chier and scount would be always strong for both marksmen but i was so wrong XD
wraith stag
imo the problem is
half of what makes chief good is the crit rate
which wolf doesn't benefit from
the other half of what makes it good is the crit damage
which... wolf gets from 4 set
wraith stag
BIS in s2 too technically
indigo basin
the other half of what makes it good is the crit damage
Yeahh, that was the reason i tried getting it, but all my hard work didn't pay off this season XD
wraith stag
we just dunno how it will do in s3
indigo basin
Im even miss lunches to tier up that dang muko
wraith stag
Yeahh, that was the reason i tried getting it, but all my hard work didn't pay o...
i can relate since APPARENTLY iaido wants flier now
MADGE
revert
quaint ermine
A rare marksman still tryna play wolf
indigo basin
i can relate since APPARENTLY iaido wants flier now
Ohhh, i thought they always uses flier and crab right?
indigo basin
A rare marksman still tryna play wolf
Yep, cuz doggos are cuter than those dang birds
wraith stag
bird alot more fun tho :^)
indigo basin
iaido was chief and a purple
Ohhhhhh
indigo basin
bird alot more fun tho :^)
Nooo, doggos need more support, bird bad, bird bad
wraith stag
the good news is in s3 they will be comparable to bird so far
but class balancing is coming
and 4 piece raid
could shake up entire s3 meta
so better to play what you enjoy ya
indigo basin
the good news is in s3 they will be comparable to bird so far
I hope soooo (pls devs dont nuke doggos in season 3)
indigo basin
I can feel the devs grinning and rubbing thier rubs in evil
wraith stag
honestly tho all they need to do to make wolf not die every season
is remove its base 100% crit
boost multipliers to compensate
oh look
now they can stack crit and benefit from chief
it dies for same reason iaido dies
run outta stats to stack
indigo basin
honestly tho all they need to do to make wolf not die every season
For me, i think its to make the mastery stat affect both the owner and wolfs attacks (not just the wolf)
wraith stag
in s1
Wolf did 4x my dps in 40 gear
by 80 gear leviathans did less dps
they start very strong then drop like a rock
indigo basin
in s1
Wolf did 4x my dps in 40 gear
Yeahh, early wolf was sooo strong in early season 1, almost everyone was doggo
wraith stag
For me, i think its to make the mastery stat affect both the owner and wolfs att...
hmm
but atm
90% of the damage comes from wolf
even if mastery helps the owner too, wouldnt be enough imo
too pet carried damage wise
indigo basin
even if mastery helps the owner too, wouldnt be enough imo
Truee, i think maybe the increase is multiplied when it comes to the player
wraith stag
even if it doubles the players dps
somehow
it wouldnt rly boost their overall output by much
EX
Wolf does 9 player does 1
Now wolf does 9 player does 2
10 -> 11 = 10% dps gain
indigo basin
Ehhh, im crying
indigo basin
Its hopeless, my doggos and I will die in a gutter
indigo basin
Devs better need to figure it out to save me and my cute doggos
wraith stag
doesnt
wolf have a falcon too
and iirc boar
so what im hearing is, you are part bird already
indigo basin
so what im hearing is, you are part bird already
Im literally this after reading this
wraith stag
LOL NOO
soft topaz
Truee, i think maybe the increase is multiplied when it comes to the player
the issue really is pet AI is just bad
a pet class with bad pet AI is in an an annoying spot no matter what
unless you want to make WP a nuke god
indigo basin
the issue really is pet AI is just bad
The only good thing tho is when I afk, when weak mobs attack me, wolf kills em automatically
indigo basin
unless you want to make WP a nuke god
Maybeee, my doggoss need to feel like a winner even for just 1 season XD
indigo basin
when i exist everything around me dies
How??? My lifebind slaps are like naoya attacks XD
wraith stag
Maybeee, my doggoss need to feel like a winner even for just 1 season XD
Early S1 though
But to be fair, a class that can borderline full auto
shouldn't be a top dps
soft topaz
Maybeee, my doggoss need to feel like a winner even for just 1 season XD
They start super strong in S3 again supposedly
wraith stag
How??? My lifebind slaps are like naoya attacks XD
Oh, it was a joke on how lifebind can gain EXP just by existing in an area
you heal someone
if they kill something u get the drops too
soft topaz
À la repeat S1 where you start strong and then taper off
indigo basin
shouldn't be a top dps
I can tell the devs pretty pls with cake on top XD
wraith stag
so u just afk heal and get 10x more exp
indigo basin
They start super strong in S3 again supposedly
Im praying to the bpsr godss
wraith stag
I can tell the devs pretty pls with cake on top XD
Remove the ability to auto and make wolf difficult to play and sure
I wouldn't mind it being top dps for a season
indigo basin
so u just afk heal and get 10x more exp
Ohh yeah, thats what i do to exp farm hahahahah
wraith stag
based
wraith stag
À la repeat S1 where you start strong and then taper off
I'd say it's uhh
good but not as stupid as in s1
atm Iaido and Crimson are unfair
i hope they nerf both
rework iaido
soft topaz
Im praying to the bpsr godss
Well be careful, you could end up like S3 Iaido where you just unbind everything except 1 and press H on the total other end
wraith stag
bro when i saw dissonance buff u dont know how scared i was
indigo basin
Remove the ability to auto and make wolf difficult to play and sure
My doggos too cute for that
wraith stag
that iaido would get its patches too
wraith stag
My doggos too cute for that
Then it never deserves being past "mid"
indigo basin
bro when i saw dissonance buff u dont know how scared i was
When i saw it, i was like wheres my wolfie buff XD
wraith stag
If auto is a thing I mean
Difficulty should reflect DPS potential
Hard classes should have higher DPS potential and easier ones should have lower
soft topaz
Well what is the auto in question- it’s different if you can bind all to H vs binding Auto attack only to it
indigo basin
Difficulty should reflect DPS potential
Truee, thats why i dont play melee classes lol
wraith stag
LOL RIP
wraith stag
Well what is the auto in question- it’s different if you can bind all to H vs bi...
True, that would help mobile players
PC players can just hold leftclick
And get the same effect
wraith stag
When i saw it, i was like wheres my wolfie buff XD
I think Dissonance got it to try and fix server lag
which is fair
If Iaido got it I'd prolly have went healer for rest of season
soft topaz
PC players can just hold leftclick
Right that’s fine, this is all downhill of Bokura just being far FAR too raw at class balance and design
soft topaz
Where everything people say should check wildpack not only does not apply to falcon, they even break the presumed balance philosophy
wraith stag
Play Formless which is fun and has APM but it's auto is BASICALLY THE SAME THING so no room for skill expression
or play crimson where auto sucks but the APM is slow as frick
and its easy to play
soft topaz
Where Falcon full H is still competitive at worst with anyone not icicle/moonstrike lol
Isn’t formless still broken
wraith stag
Where Falcon full H is still competitive at worst with anyone not icicle/moonstr...
while being #1 AoE class in the game
wraith stag
Isn’t formless still broken
Define broken
like, it's weaker than crimson atm
:thonk:
wraith stag
Where Falcon full H is still competitive at worst with anyone not icicle/moonstr...
oh adding to this
Falconry is the easiest class to manually or semi manually play in the game
soft topaz
Define broken
As in the rotation doesn’t actually quite work
wraith stag
oh the rotation works its more so its luck scaling is horrendous
soft topaz
The bad for class kind of broken rather than OP kind
soft topaz
Falconry is the easiest class to manually or semi manually play in the game
That it also true
Falcon for a higher DPS ceiling class should not be the same level of inputs for semi H as wildpack lol
wraith stag
Yeah the two big offenders right now
Is Falconry and Goonstrike
Icicle is actually not braindead easy to play
But it's damage is way too high
soft topaz
Tbh I think Icicle should be a decent scale point, just bring the rest in line to it relatively
Full out spending and that much manual play should imo reward that much
But other classes that end up with the same amount of cost and effort should also do the same-ish
wraith stag
Tbh I think Icicle should be a decent scale point, just bring the rest in line t...
That's what devs said they wanted to do, because they didn't want to make Icicle OP sell Boyce then nerf it making it feel like a bait and switch.
But
Iaido in it's S2 state should never be this much weaker than Icicle
It should be stronger since it's harder and lacks the range advantage
While also being more RNG reliant...
way more :/
soft topaz
Well the monkey paw margin called that, now S3 Iaido is now the least challenging spec (good job Devs)
wraith stag
It's still technically not as braindead as Falconry and Goonstrike
Mainly because melee + need to time volt surge windows or you lose all your DPS
But yeah they need to definitely fix Iaido :/
Not fix it by turning it into Goonstrike
Iaido needs a complete revamp / rework x.x...
In it's current S2 state it's "A burst oriented class that can't out burst half the roster"
Entirely reliant on Volt Surge to do any damage then melee and RNG based
And in it's S3 state it's the same but now braindead and spammy
soft topaz
Ironically I think S3 WP from what I hear is basically where WP should be
wraith stag
but it can out burst ig
wraith stag
Ironically I think S3 WP from what I hear is basically where WP *should* be
Wolf being in mid - lower mid tier would be fair ya
soft topaz
So they are kinda sorta overall doing better - the issue is when they gaffe balance, they GAFFE balance
wraith stag
In S3 Iaido is arguably worse than Icicle
Because Icicle has the same
entirely reliant on burst windows
boss uses mech? haha die
But at least Icicle has to do some manual play / inputs
....
soft topaz
Wolf being in mid - lower mid tier would be fair ya
From what I saw it’s basically the median DPS spec now
At least when not on H
wraith stag
ya thats fair
soft topaz
Not OP, not UP
Honestly cool with it
Kind of like being a benchmark of sorts for overall stuff
wraith stag
I think Frostbeam should be around that tbh
Good balance would be Beam Falconry and Wolf all being the "mid tier" classes except off auto Wolf being the strongest is fair
soft topaz
Honestly they nearly could have managed that in S2
Too bad pet AI Is something too hard for them to tune
wraith stag
goonstrike should be bottom tier
:D
No Auto Formless Aerial and S2 Iaido should be top
that's how I'd balance it
If they keep S3 iaido then it should be around but slightly stronger than full auto wolf since it's the same thing minus range advantage and burst focused
like, where Iaido is rn in S2
but take off like 1-2 ranks dps wise
wraith stag
Too bad pet AI Is something too hard for them to tune
the funny thing is
If you played Kritika online
they did the class perfect
they couldn't balance the class AI either
so what they did was enough to get me to main the class
they removed the pet entirely had you activate some "wolf mode" changed your entire kit to be fast paced high apm melee
"Wolf Guardian" literally just became part wolf and removed the pet LOL
safe cliff
I think icicle should just have bad aoe again like in season 1
single target specalist spec is interesting design, and encourages dual specing since beam complements that weakness so well
wraith stag
I think icicle should just have bad aoe again like in season 1
should also* rather than should just ( way too overtuned atm )
like iaido also st specialist with bad aoe
sinful helm
Hey, does anyone know what achievements were changed in the recent hot fix? It says ingame is a detailed version, I cannot find one tho. :(
wraith stag
but then also melee xD
safe cliff
should also* rather than should just ( way too overtuned atm )
well, I think if icicle had s1 aoe, then its higher singlet target damage is justified
safe cliff
it's not that much better than skyward/moon etc. at non-whale investments
safe cliff
and those other specs have really decent aoe
wraith stag
it's not that much better than skyward/moon etc. at non-whale investments
Icicle ST? not true
safe cliff
not higher than iaido though
well, iado probably just needs to be improved lol
safe cliff
f2p icicle beats whale skyward in st
hmm, I don't know about this
wraith stag
well, iado probably just needs to be improved lol
yeah... 
wraith stag
hmm, I don't know about this
If Icicle has SGK it's the 2nd strongest AoE class in the game
safe cliff
granted I haven't seen too many whale skywards lately
wraith stag
You can just run Chief SGK without boyce
skyward would win in AoE if it's F2P vs Whale
but Icicle win in ST
like
its so bad
that icicle should not be outdoing beam 5/6 dungeons in aoe
thats just silly
cursive whale
no wonder I don't see any beams in my dungeons anymore
safe cliff
I play beam in stimen 😄
safe cliff
the thing is, beam is still technically better in mobbing phase of dungeon assuming similar investments
wraith stag
the thing is, beam is still technically better in mobbing phase of dungeon assum...
no its not o.0
safe cliff
but the advantage is marginal enough that it's not worth swapping back and forth between beam and icicle
wraith stag
safe cliff
similar investments is not sgk though
wraith stag
safe cliff
I play both specs so I'm making my own comparisons
wraith stag
similar investments is not sgk though
wha
that doesnt make sense
give them both the same investment level
Icicle having SGK doesn't mean Beam can't have a T5 too
woulda just needed to focus on it
safe cliff
well, the point is that sgk is an investment only for mobbing
so we're comparing like 3 t5s against 2 t5s
cursive whale
at least icicle can't break as fast as melee classes
wraith stag
so maxroll is wrong?
personally I wouldn't go for either xD
wraith stag
so we're comparing like 3 t5s against 2 t5s
Or just don't pull Boyce tbh
safe cliff
practically speaking... very very few icicle players built sgk
wraith stag
tbh very few icicle players know how to play in the first place xD
cursive whale
wouldn't you have to build BL and a few others to make SGK viable?
safe cliff
so I think it's not really worth discussing anyways even if in theory it's true
cursive whale
with the T5 effect?
indigo basin
isnt icicle like super duper powerful right now? NERF IT DOWN, Im calling the devs
cursive whale
tbh very few icicle players know how to play in the first place xD
I was watching a BPSR streamer with 100 viewers get explained to what the icicle rotation was yesterday
and the funny thing is
the title of the streamer's video had a lot of hours
like 1000 hour player
wraith stag
wouldn't you have to build BL and a few others to make SGK viable?
You can but iirc it's mostly the passive effect that makes it broken
wraith stag
the title of the streamer's video had a lot of hours
LOL
wraith stag
so I think it's not really worth discussing anyways even if in theory it's true
I know alot that has T5 SGK personally, their aoe dps is unfair LMAO
wraith stag
like 1000 hour player
sounds about right
cursive whale
Also I hate SGK icicles with a passion during raids
safe cliff
Or just don't pull Boyce tbh
so if the comparison is sgk5 mc5 icicle against beam, then I agree it just beats beam in all contexts (most mobbing and all single). But sgk5 mc5 icicle probably isn't top single target dps compared to other OP stuff
cursive whale
when BPSR becomes lag protocol
wraith stag
Also I hate SGK icicles with a passion during raids
wdym the lag killed u
wraith stag
so if the comparison is sgk5 mc5 icicle against beam, then I agree it just beats...
uhhh
cursive whale
so if the comparison is sgk5 mc5 icicle against beam, then I agree it just beats...
with raid gear I think it is pretty high up
safe cliff
with raid gear I think it is pretty high up
yes, it would be kind of like moonstrike level though
maybe lower, I don't know
cursive whale
I went from like top 25% in dps a few weeks ago to bottom 25% when the icicles scaled
and then even the f2p icicles in my guild outdps me rn
soft topaz
wouldn't you have to build BL and a few others to make SGK viable?
you only need like BL T0
wraith stag
so if the comparison is sgk5 mc5 icicle against beam, then I agree it just beats...
It's fair if you consider it like this
Rorola 5 costs the same as two SR imagines, Beam with Rorola 5 Chief 5 vs Icicle with SGK 5 GK 5 and Chief 5
Icicle rofl stomps
cursive whale
can't wait for this season to end so icicles get off their high horse
soft topaz
people have tested the difference between T0 and T5 on BL when using SGK
wraith stag
so if the comparison is sgk5 mc5 icicle against beam, then I agree it just beats...
Ans GK 5 Icicle is only 10% less dps than Boyce 5
soft topaz
the difference is like a literal fraction
just max out the purple S1 luck imagines and get BL T0 and you're more or less set with SGK5's passive buff
safe cliff
It's fair if you consider it like this
Rorola 5 costs the same as two SR imagin...
yes, so I think we agree you can make similar investment builds for icicle specifically so it makes beam obsolete, but that's not really optimal in a vacuum
soft topaz
but yes, if you're wanting to max icicle out and money is no object then you go boyce
wraith stag
yes, so I think we agree you can make similar investment builds for icicle speci...
It depends on how you define optimal tbh, like I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't get Boyce because it's only good for 1 spec in s2 and two spec in s3
soft topaz
can't wait for this season to end so icicles get off their high horse
unfortunately Icicle remains meta in S3 so far it seems
wraith stag
If I was Icicle main, I'd go Rorola
But if Icicle's goal was to say
M20
Then yeah, SGK would be optimal too
safe cliff
again, I think you'd just play beam lol
and stick with rorola
on top of icicle I mean
wraith stag
ehh
pure nacelle
if you played with the intent of multiclassing you go rorola
if you played with the intent of one tricking you go boyce
there's not much more to it
wraith stag
Oh no the discussion was more on
SGK
For AoE purposes
In CN icicle x3 was doing way way more dps on M20 than swapping to beam in most dungeons
but they ran sgk
safe cliff
building a whole extra 1 or 2 imagines for a spec to overcome its innate weaknesses seems not as efficient as just playing its adjacent spec and vertical investing into things that both specs benefit from
safe cliff
In CN icicle x3 was doing way way more dps on M20 than swapping to beam in most ...
have you seen comparisons on this
I'm somewhat doubtful it's 'way way more'
though it's probably more
wraith stag
building a whole extra 1 or 2 imagines for a spec to overcome its innate weaknes...
I think it's more, it was way stronger comparatively while technically comparable imagine wise.
Like let's say you are a whale for a second right
You have Chief 5 Boyce 5
Now you swap to beam, what Imagine do you use
Scout?
So they would be more inclined to pull an Imagine for Beam regardless
But if they do that, just go SGK
safe cliff
well, how big of a whale are we talking here lol
wraith stag
idk how much things cost so I can't help with that one xD
safe cliff
you can play boyce5 with beam, it's better than scout5 at least
granted it's not a huge upgrade
so I think if there's infinite resources, then yes sticking with icicle just makes sense
wraith stag
you can play boyce5 with beam, it's better than scout5 at least
prolly true tbh ya
safe cliff
but someone with limited resources can build rorola and dual spec beam/icicle and probably get more mileage than mc + sgk + gk or whatever playing only icicle
wraith stag
granted it's not a huge upgrade
ya basically marginally better
wraith stag
but someone with limited resources can build rorola and dual spec beam/icicle an...
I don't think many going for M20
built rorola
especially if they wanted a good score
but ehh
I'd argue if it was strictly for M20
Chief GK SGK > Chief Rorola
Rorola 5 should be comparable to GK 5 on Icicle
safe cliff
do you just keep GK for boss phase
wraith stag
ya
wraith stag
this the problem more so
So Rorola 5 would unironically be around the same as GK 5, just more flexible
But with the materials saved you could get SGK 5 now
safe cliff
rorola 5 is cheaper than sgk5 + gk5 though
wraith stag
Last I checked SSR to T5 was 2x the cost of SR to 5
safe cliff
since some of the cost is universal materials which are practically free
nah, more like s1 vs s2 imagine thing
wraith stag
since some of the cost is universal materials which are practically free
even including that
soft topaz
if we're assuming totally naked pushing
safe cliff
that's 7.5k orbs which is roughly equivalent to 3.4m unbound luno?
soft topaz
ssr is 2x sr to go from nothing to t5
dawn trail
idk i pulled rorola for 2 weeks now and i'm averaging 77~ pulls per will
safe cliff
but you're also pulling some other wills on the way to rorola, which can eventually be a free will
soft topaz
well that doesn't really help with the building roro deal
dawn trail
got 6 sr wills and 2 rorolas in 155 pulls
soft topaz
which is the main point of contention
the use is dismantle and buying the weekly 300 shard will
if you don't do that, you then have to do another swipe to roll for the 6th
safe cliff
if you don't do that, you then have to do another swipe to roll for the 6th
well, it's a bonus and has value for sure
even if it's not immediately contributing to making building rorola cheaper
soft topaz
well, it's a bonus and has value for sure
but even if you reroute the shards to buying a will to require 1 less roll, you're still at ~2x a SR to push from nothing to t5
and mind you, this assumes the SR cannot buy any wills off of the market
dawn trail
this is why i hate rng gacha xd
soft topaz
I calc'ed this by comparing my flier push to my buddy's roro push
wraith stag
15 + 20 + 20 + 30 + 35 ( SR imagine cost ) ( 120 mats )
10 + 20 + 30 + 40 + 50 + 70 ( Rorola Imagine Cost ) ( 220 mats )
It's already almost 2x the cost
safe cliff
and mind you, this assumes the SR cannot buy any wills off of the market
uhh... I'm assuming the sgk/gk side buys wills from market vs rororla side rolling on gacha
safe cliff
maybe not understanding your point though
soft topaz
uhh... I'm assuming the sgk/gk side buys wills from market vs rororla side rolli...
so then it's even cheaper for the former than the latter
wraith stag
Just purely material wise, it's already almost 2x the cost
soft topaz
my point is it is 100% not cheaper to go roro than 2 sr golds
safe cliff
Just purely material wise, it's already almost 2x the cost
yes, but I'm saying rorola is less than 2x the cost, hence sgk + gk is more expensive than just rorola
wraith stag
It's not though
soft topaz
That's the point we're contesting (a bit strongly).
wraith stag
You can get GK and SGK's for min price..
If you assume Rorola is 60 pulls each and you get one copy for free with fragments
That's still 300 pulls
45k Red Orbs
safe cliff
isn't 60 average quite unlucky lol
wraith stag
no
safe cliff
where does soft pity start
wraith stag
80 is unlucky
safe cliff
That's still 300 pulls
we don't need to go to t5 for wills, just comparing 1 copy is enough
wraith stag
wha?
soft topaz
we're comparing 2 SR T5 cost vs 1 SSR T5 cost?
wraith stag
ya
wraith stag
lol hell no
soft topaz
but who the fuck uses T0 vs T0/T0
wraith stag
its 5 vs 5
safe cliff
erm, 6 v 6
dawn trail
i think 80 is considered luckier than how i got it
soft topaz
no one who spends is just unlocking lol
safe cliff
ok, well the comparison doesn't change
wraith stag
safe cliff
doing just the beginning would be skewing it hard
I'm talking only about the wills
wraith stag
at the start Rorola is even cheaper to craft
soft topaz
my guy we're calcing to show why it's not the case right now
wraith stag
I'm talking about the entire cost
soft topaz
like why the heck are you ignoring mats when without it having wills is pointless
wraith stag
I don't care about just the wills, you need to do the material cost too
safe cliff
like why the heck are you ignoring mats when without it having wills is pointles...
I'm not ignoring the mats lol
total mats for rorola is cheaper
soft topaz
I'm not ignoring the mats lol
then why talk about the wills only
to make a usable imagine it's A + B, not only A or only B
safe cliff
then why talk about the wills only
I was making a mathematical simplification on specifically the will costs
that's not the whole cost and I didn't say it was lol
as in we don't have to do 6v6 specifically for wills
since that part doesn't scale
soft topaz
"doesn't scale?"
wraith stag
15 + 20 + 20 + 30 + 35 ( SR imagine cost ) ( 120 mats )
10 + 20 + 30 + 40 + 50...
Now that we have this established, You can get the wills for 1.4m each, you would need 17 million luno worth rounding up.
Rorola would take around 45k red orbs assuming you get 1 copy for free with 300 fragments, at the current rate of 512-1 would be 23 million Luno.
The 20~ less materials would be made up with the 6 million Luno difference.
safe cliff
ok, so can we agree 120 x 2 > 220?
soft topaz
I don't think SR/SSR will acquisition rates are identical
soft topaz
is it cheaper to max 2 SR golds or 1 SSR gold
wraith stag
^
soft topaz
from nothing
quaint ermine
isn’t it 2 SR gold
wraith stag
ya
soft topaz
that's what we've debating in favor of, Cow is arguing the reverse
safe cliff
Now that we have this established, You can get the wills for 1.4m each, you woul...
are there any sgk/gks sold for min these days
I honestly haven't checked
quaint ermine
If cow buy me a T5 Boyce I’ll buy them any 2 SR gold they want 
fair trade
safe cliff
I also think 60 average rolls per will is a pessimistic estimate for gacha
wraith stag
are there any sgk/gks sold for min these days
There's even one right now
But I don't know if that's min price or not
I just assumed 1.4m each
o wait
1.2m is min
safe cliff
I think min is 1.2?
quaint ermine
I unironically rolled to the very last number for my last Boyce will
soft topaz
min is 1.2
quaint ermine
soft topaz
but they're still far cheaper than when they were stuck at max price of over 2.2m
wraith stag
I unironically rolled to the very last number for my last Boyce will
I rolled to the last number for my rorola too lol
rip us HAHAHAHA
I think 60 is very fair, others assume 80 XD
soft topaz
I'm saving my wish coins now
quaint ermine
60 sounds fair
soft topaz
in case an S3 imagine ends up being meta for wp for w/e reason
quaint ermine
Considering u dismantle enough hopefully for a 300 shard exchange too
wraith stag
yeahhh
dawn trail
i always get rorola on my 4th SR pull, but it also wastes my SR imagine
soft topaz
I can see Roro5 being cheaper than SGK/GK5 in the event that one has extraordinary luck and rolls the former wills at ~half that rate-ish (and assuming the SGK/GK wills have to be rolled rather than bought)
so basically every SR guarantee being a Roro
wraith stag
LOL yeah pretty much
safe cliff
Now that we have this established, You can get the wills for 1.4m each, you woul...
also, I would value unbound orbs at the price of imagine materials, since that's the opportunity cost
would put that at around 20m
assuming 180k per gold mat
wraith stag
ehhh
soft topaz
I just flat treated boxes the same
quaint ermine
I *can* see Roro5 being cheaper than SGK/GK5 in the event that one has extraordi...
Then at that point
quaint ermine
With extraordinary luck I open 6 wills with my boss keys
soft topaz
since that's pmuch how spenders always do it when they want an immediate imagine push
quaint ermine
wraith stag
With extraordinary luck I open 6 wills with my boss keys
TRUE
or or
hear me out
🎣
safe cliff
soft topaz
With extraordinary luck I open 6 wills with my boss keys
that's the thing, you'd need the Rorola 5 to have incredible rolling odds
quaint ermine
🎣
soft topaz
to come below a 2 SR cost (really this just stems from SSR pushing being so limited vs SR pushing)
quaint ermine
To be fair on my CN acct I rolled 2 rorola will within 40 pulls
but I can’t afford even the grass to craft it
soft topaz
there's someone here who had a GK and 2 Rorolas in a single 10 pull
I want their account
wraith stag
I have a F2P friend who has dmg stack 6 Lifewave 6
soft topaz
f2p luck man
quaint ermine
I have a F2P friend who has dmg stack 6 Lifewave 6
Me next!
wraith stag
:prayge: i wish my glorious king all the luck
wraith stag
storm badge
I have a F2P friend who has dmg stack 6 Lifewave 6
wraith stag
omg its the c6 r5
safe cliff
Now that we have this established, You can get the wills for 1.4m each, you woul...
Oh there's another issue... rorola materials are way more common than sgk/gk mats in vault in their respective seasons. Not just because of variance, but also because s2 only has 3 mats to rotate between. Granted this is a bit of nitpick
though admittedly I didn't think rorola will is so much more expensive than 2 relatively good sr wills combined
wraith stag
Oh there's another issue... rorola materials are way more common than sgk/gk mat...
That's true but I mean if we are being technical isn't there a chance you have some S1 materials laying around too? 
safe cliff
well yes, from s1 vaults 😄
quaint ermine
soft topaz
Oh there's another issue... rorola materials are way more common than sgk/gk mat...
I was assuming totally naked
wraith stag
But yeah, Rorola materials are common that's fair
soft topaz
so not a single mat or will already owned
if mats are already available, it obv changes the equation
wraith stag
though admittedly I didn't think rorola will is so much more expensive than 2 re...
Fun fact
If you were whaling
0 -> 5 rorola costs more than ocean
LMAO
soft topaz
well, what are we defining as ocean
safe cliff
so not a single mat or will already owned
yeah, I think you have to make this comparison assuming 2 different times, because making sgk + gk from scratch in s2 is much harder than in s1, and making rorola in s1 is impossible...
soft topaz
because the number of cores can vary a lot
quaint ermine
Get ocean instead
wraith stag
YEAH LOL
soft topaz
like I got 160 last week after unboxing like 78 cores
but people will be 180 next week if they bought 100
quaint ermine
I heard at the best period
wraith stag
well, what are we defining as ocean
soft topaz
80 is kind of low-end
if you only unboxed 80 you're only getting 180 ocean in the very last week of S2
wraith stag
o
soft topaz
speaking as someone who unboxed 79
quaint ermine
soft topaz
you're now basically a tier below max ocean available
at like 90 you're only half and you're not really behind
wraith stag
speaking as someone who unboxed 79
quaint ermine
67
wraith stag
LMAO
safe cliff
but people will be 180 next week if they bought 100
isn't 180 already out
fairly sure I saw someone link it in chat..
soft topaz
isn't 180 already out
yes, but when does a 160 ocean haver get 180 changes
safe cliff
oh I see
wraith stag
If you go for 180 early you end up overbuying
soft topaz
if you only bought cores in S1, chances are you aren't gonna have enough to buy 180 ocean on day 1
wraith stag
It's leviathan bait
soft topaz
becasue you ALSO are short on the red crystals actually
safe cliff
so deficit is above 100 right now eh
quaint ermine
Yaaaa
wraith stag
So they had more time to save for 180
soft topaz
they also get more time to save for 240 lol
quaint ermine
Ocean whales in CN is chilling
soft topaz
two week shorter S2 for global vs CN
wraith stag
LMAO gg
soft topaz
so deficit is above 100 right now eh
well if you bought 100 cores total you're mostly fine I think
you should have enough blue cores for 180 the same time you get enough red crystals (you need 100 of those)
BUT
wraith stag
whales: brb going to buy 100 reds
soft topaz
this is also encouragement to finish imagines
because if you can afford to vector all unbound luno to cores (whether it's free passive or spent), you can just slowly buy more cores off market to catch up anyway
which is why the recommended min buy is like 80
wraith stag
^
safe cliff
oh they're bottlenecked on this too?
soft topaz
yeah
wraith stag
I think they need 150
quaint ermine
it’s so funny
soft topaz
that's why they added this chest lol
wraith stag
whereas we only need 100 for our 170 weap
soft topaz
you can't day 1 180 with just the free drop red crystals
astral tangle
Really that many??
soft topaz
I think they need 150
correct, 50 for 160 and 100 more for 180
soft topaz
180 ocean from 160 needs 30 blues and 100 reds
so I'm not even spending for more blues until I know I have 100 reds and can check
actually lemme double check that rn
wraith stag
surely you get enough in 3 weeks
safe cliff
oh I guess it was like this at the start with thrones too
was like a secondary bottleneck for people who didn't want to wait
soft topaz
as of right now
I got 73 reds
so 27 to go, that's basically 3 and some weeks
16 cores from all that, I have 5 so I'd be at 21
safe cliff
how come I only have 72 
soft topaz
how come I only have 72 <:done:1482002729252552816>
I got a chest drop
soft topaz
72 is correct assuming 0 chests
astral tangle
Yeah I think I got one chest and I opened it
soft topaz
I've gotten a single core chest and a single red chest
that core chest I feel was the game rewarding for 3 hour robot hard lag jail
safe cliff
0/0 here 😭
astral tangle
Stellar cores I’m at around 45/100 (mines is just gonna be Lvl.100 when I get mines)
soft topaz
I'm still upset about that one
45 min in we had a run that was gonna win
had robot at 6%
astral tangle
Final phase??
soft topaz
then we lagged when he spawned swords and we couldn't move to place them
wiped there
and we wouldn't get that close again for over an hour
but yeah if I don't buy any more cores I'll be 3 weeks behind red crystal pace for 180 (i've opened 79 total chests I think? so may as well get 1 more and make it two weeks behind instead)
soft topaz
Final phase??
ya
astral tangle
Yeah to be fair I might mot upgrade mines since I’ll be lacking behind on my Gear Score. Im F2P I only do raids every weekly reset
Mines is more slow paced
quaint ermine
I’m one behind the average f2p
Cause I didn’t do ice NM week 1
IM SO SAD I MISSED 67
safe cliff
I'm surprised they didn't transfer glinting cores to s2 nm raids when they came out...
soft topaz
I’m glad you did because for that week I could not stand that number lmao
wraith stag
I hope they reclaim hub it
soft topaz
I'm surprised they didn't transfer glinting cores to s2 nm raids when they came ...
Well it’s more “which do you do first”
safe cliff
yeah, but what's even the point of nm dragons though lol
quaint ermine
modules
safe cliff
I mean I'll still do dragons for modules
but I thought they'd put cores in the 'challenging' stuff since it's progression
quaint ermine
you could go in to NM dragon with 20 concerto and lifeblind
soft topaz
Well it’s not like you can skip s2 nightmares anyway
soft topaz
The raid gear and 160 gear is too important
soft topaz
Global had 20 tanks bandy into ice once
quaint ermine
Global had 20 tanks bandy into ice once
Ya I’ve seen that one
I feel like
It’s happened
More than once
Also all disso raids
but I haven’t seen a
soft topaz
One hell of a rock concert for the dragons
soft topaz
you could go in to NM dragon with 20 concerto and lifeblind
At this point the most interesting thing is seeing who can TK who in bone dragon xd
pastel eagle
<a:frog_drink:1350570115116171344>
hi rein
soft topaz
Link?
wraith stag
Link?
https://www.prydwen.gg/blue-protocol/tier-list
Dragon Raids
not that the STIMEN tierlist isnt horrible too
omg look
wolf > bird
and before you say
"is that just outdated"
soft topaz
Jan 20
soft topaz
Uh I 100% don’t think that holds up at April 1
Remember at start S2 Wp and falcon were even
soft topaz
What a different universe lol
wraith stag
how the frick is lifebind and disso
"trash"
hell
how do u make a tierlist update
5 days after s2 launches
before raids
....
it wasnt even out yet
wraith stag
cn list was sooooo different LMAO
T0 - Icicle with Boyce
T1 - Icicle without Boyce
T3 - Falcon Goon Skyward
T4 - Iaido Vanguard
T5 - Other
dry spade
If I had a level 8 homestead but then joined somebody else, therefore leaving my homestead, would it still be level 8 if I returned to my own homestead or would it reset?
vestal agate
Yes it would still be lvl 8
dry spade
follow up question then: I bought my flower bed things while on the shared homestead. Will those come back to my house or be lost in the move?
pastel eagle
follow up question then: I bought my flower bed things while on the shared homes...
All of your items will be removed from the other persons house and into your homestead inventory
But - this game has a lot of bugs. So I would manually remove the items first
Who knows what will get deleted
Or not transfer over
pulsar sluice
Is this the returnee tag? My friend got the returnee pop-up in game and everything, but when I send him the link to join my team for the returning player event 'Assemble your Team' it says he's ineligible
I know sprouts generally mean newer player, we're just confused what this returning player tag is
worthy blade
Is this the returnee tag? My friend got the returnee pop-up in game and everythi...
(I'm the friend)
pastel eagle
Is this the returnee tag? My friend got the returnee pop-up in game and everythi...
Its happening with a few of my friends also
Did they happen to login to the game before clicking the link?
I think that screws it up x.x
pulsar sluice
Did they happen to login to the game before clicking the link?
Yes, but that really skews the wording here... they need to change this :/
pastel eagle
Yes, but that really skews the wording here... they need to change this :/
@cobalt solar
gray fox
New to the game are these stats normal for a level 9, I found these armors after the starting zone after defeating the boss
Anyone? Asked AI and ai says not normal stats
pastel eagle
New to the game are these stats normal for a level 9, I found these armors after...
They have a catchup system for new/returning players so you arent super far behind
gray fox
They have a catchup system for new/returning players so you arent super far behi...
Ohhhh Gemini mentioned something like that
worthy blade
Did they happen to login to the game before clicking the link?
I had run the game about 10min? before clicking the link, and clicked "Start game", but not chosen a character to start playing. I clicked the link while I was in that state.
I seem to have that sprout icon, and it definitely says I'm a returning player, yet also somehow not eligible (as [the screenshots](#questions-and-help message) show)
pastel eagle
Frankieee is here to save the day
gray fox
They have a catchup system for new/returning players so you arent super far behi...
Oh okay, I see the button for level to 60 think I’ll be touching that and taking my time to play through the content and taking these armor peices off
cobalt solar
Yes, but that really skews the wording here... they need to change this :/
Could you send me the screenshots of the teammates
gray fox
Really? Stats only shot up like this after I put the amor on, armor level is 100
pastel eagle
Really? Stats only shot up like this after I put the amor on, armor level is 100
Oh maybe it is then
pastel eagle
This is the teammate @cobalt solar
gray fox
Oh maybe it is then
Thanks for help, I was looking at the stats, and I was like, maybe this is a glitch and I took the armor off stats went back to normal
pastel eagle
Thanks for help, I was looking at the stats, and I was like, maybe this is a gli...
Weird. Didn’t know it was attached to the armor
gray fox
Weird. Didn’t know it was attached to the armor
Yea look at my health bar
I’ll show u one sec
Your thoughts?
cobalt solar
Yes, but that really skews the wording here... they need to change this :/
I mean the ss from the website
All of your guys with the UID and the IGN
pulsar sluice
All of your guys with the UID and the IGN
He'd be the first one so far, the others I just asked tonight and they're getting on tomorrow since it's late
cobalt solar
He'd be the first one so far, the others I just asked tonight and they're gettin...
hmmm could you contact the Cs with this issue
though i think it would be legit if ppl have the mark
pulsar sluice
hmmm could you contact the Cs with this issue
Should I send in the ticket or Jake since it's his account not connecting?
worthy blade
*not eligible
cobalt solar
Should I send in the ticket or Jake since it's his account not connecting?
Jake would be better
wait , so @pulsar sluice are inviting @worthy blade ?
pulsar sluice
Correct
worthy blade
er.. that one just shows up after it tells me i'm ineligible for the invite
pulsar sluice
I don't know, it told him that he was ineligible to join and then just forced him into his own
cobalt solar
errr pls tell the story to the Cs as well
worthy blade
will do, thanks!
grim dome
question for soundless as a tank, sometimes durring or after orbs the boss will target me with a big red aoe where he swings a couple times then hits the floor. am i suppost to do something durring that? because the dps and heals keep dying. its not the aoe that is static but moves with me i am running recovery sk
vague thistle
what are the names for the two specs for twin striker
umbral lintel
what are the names for the two specs for twin striker
crimson and formless
deep nacelle
question for soundless as a tank, sometimes durring or after orbs the boss will ...
Are you talking about when he stuns you?
deep nacelle
Is there a circle when he does that?
deep nacelle
I dont remember having a circle when he did that
But it has been sometime for me
Gonna check
grim dome
yea its not in m5 lower
deep nacelle
Yup cant find it
vague thistle
crimson and formless
thanks
grim dome
Yup cant find it
ill record next run
main latch
question for soundless as a tank, sometimes durring or after orbs the boss will ...
I tried dealing with it in different ways and got totally lost what you're supposed to do besides like it being a dps check to phase transition before it happens
idk
asked few ppl gotten no helpful answers yet sadly 
only thing I can think of and haven't tried is like you're supposed to take one of the float pads for it maybe idk
grim dome
Its way before enrage the only way i got my clear was by tanking through it and using ari
the pads are used by the dps though
main latch
dps create 2?3? pads and technically only need 1
dunoo what else you're supposed to do about that move especially in like m9
grim dome
dunoo what else you're supposed to do about that move especially in like m9
what i did tank it and res the party. there are only 2 pads but 3 dps are being targeted now so two jump do we need to only send 1 up?
main latch
even when I took zero dmg via spider imagine as far as away from group as possible it still killed ppl
I thought was only 2 target haven't played dps side enough
grim dome
There are 3 being targeted now
main latch
still maybe just meant to eat 2 & use 1 pad and save one for this
cause idk what else you're supposed to do about this
cause like I dont think forcing res is intented way to do it lol
grim dome
maxroll you know the official partner has nothing on it and its kinda annoying
main latch
I guess I didnt try the barrier (either me or party in it) I forgot to try that
but doesnt say anything about the barrier
so feels unlikely
grim dome
I guess I didnt try the barrier (either me or party in it) I forgot to try that
somone in world chat said this so i will let you know
yes!
you get a purple debuff and at the end of it if you arnt in a stasis zone it wipes
Only you need to be in the zone
void wharf
question for soundless as a tank, sometimes durring or after orbs the boss will ...
When this happens just move the boss to the shield / dome area just like when you get the swords. Otherwise the group will die. Also if your dps is high enough he won’t get to that move (usually done after you come down from flight phase)
I do have a question if anyone can help with. I see some people with “painting” style avatar pictures. How is that done? Looks fancy .. like a limited edition Pokémon card 😂
grim dome
And if your dps is low he can do it twice 
still got my m9 clear by skipping it by reviving the party after it. glad to know how it works now
void wharf
And if your dps is low he can do it twice <:AironaDone:1423956241381724261> stil...
Most ppl should have enough dps to skip the mechanic in m9 .. maybe m10 but well at least knowing the mechanics helps for later masters.
grim dome
Id rather know the mechanics instead of skipping them 
I tend to re run a lot of dungeons with newer people
pure nacelle
whats no calls in mahjong mean
no calls means that all pons / chis will be skipped
calling means claiming a discard
rough gyro
1000 bound orbs role is crazy
looks like a scam? we pay RO for a role... or is it some event
solemn bough
how long for m20? 3 weeks?
wraith stag
omg they actually sent it
orchid igloo
What is this 1k role and how do I get
orchid igloo
Amazing
sullen bobcat
guys do we know if there will be a Snuggly Muku
sullen bobcat
I do have a question if anyone can help with. I see some people with “painting” ...
random guess but they could be using AI and then modifying their game to put pictures in, I usually report people who do their card photo/pfp outside of bpsr (with a couple exceptions)
sullen bobcat
yep
I come to bpsr cause I wanna see bpsr not ai slop
the exceptions I make are for people who just slightly modify their card photo (like that one person who was in amusement club last I checked) or people who wanted to put a picture of them with someone in bpsr
void wharf
the exceptions I make are for people who just slightly modify their card photo (...
Ah didn’t know it was not allowed because I see a lot of whales with the same kind of image, some from whalesong too. It’s probably single shot thrown into ChatGPT or some AI program to make it look like a painting
sullen bobcat
Ah didn’t know it was not allowed because I see a lot of whales with the same ki...
yeah I think I see whales doing it the most
which kinda annoys me cause then I'm sitting there like do I report someone who's keeping the game up..
void wharf
So if I sell a kidney and whale do I get to do it too 😂, I mean not that it’s that important .. I thought it was something normal so asked but if it’s not allowed I don’t want the 5k I spent to go down the drain
manic matrix
Modifying game files to put AI slop in their card is definitly something
solemn bough
wtf is this role xD
bitter marsh
Does anyone know if there's a website kit or something for this game? I see a lot of stuff on maxroll that looks like official gameart but wasn't able to find anything via searchmachines.
wind quartz
they use a tool to export the images from the game
sleek fern
hi guys, theres no interact button,. what am i doing wrong
reef holly
<@&599291260301344768>
frosty vale
thanks o/
lost forum
tropic fog
hi guys, theres no interact button,. what am i doing wrong
idk those recent bugs happening...changing lines helped
final cove
can you get the collab costume without spending money?
manic matrix
You can with the few free pulls you'll end up getting
The odds are not in f2p's favor though
woeful meteor
hi guys, theres no interact button,. what am i doing wrong
come to line 7, it's working here...
merry pilot
What should be the average gear score range for f2p players right now if u keep up with everything weekly
woeful meteor
What should be the average gear score range for f2p players right now if u keep ...
if you literally have never missed ANY daily or weekly activity, over 45k. This assumes 50/50 luck with looting good modules, passing refines, and upgrading your Wills.
merry pilot
Hmm im at 43k, modules are good. For refines the attk gear are lvl 26. But my defense gear is lvl 12. Should I refine my defense gear to 15 or 20?
I was planning to max out attk refines first before working on defense gear
woeful meteor
defense 15 refines is okay, but that won't push you to 45k
merry pilot
Yah thats what I figured. My wills i have t5 flier and t5 muku scout. Not sure what else im missing
woeful meteor
ensure all your equipped skills are tier 6
start maxing some Lv160 gear+Lv170 weapon, also embed the best purple/yellow sigils possible. max affixes also increase AS
install G9/G10 factors into your emblem
patent dagger
Am I blind or did they remove the feedback channel?
neon needle
Am I blind or did they remove the feedback channel?
They moved it
It's under Game Support now
neon needle
Hmm im at 43k, modules are good. For refines the attk gear are lvl 26. But my d...
I would say 43k for f2p is fine.. saying f2p should be at 46k is crazy.
merry pilot
>ensure all your equipped skills are tier 6
>start maxing some Lv160 gear+Lv170 ...
Yup all that is done except sigils. I havent done any sigils yet. Will work on that this week. Hopefully that would bring me up to speed.
merry pilot
I would say 43k for f2p is fine.. saying f2p should be at 46k is crazy.
Yah im not too worries since damage wise im still doin fairly well compared to higher gear score players. Just wondering if I was missing anything
woeful meteor
hmm I'm F2P with mediocre luck and am at 46.6k. and I say mediocre luck because I fail so many 97%-98% refines. My attack refines are 15-20, defense refines are 10-15.
also still only have T0 Muku Chief because ropes and wills never drop for me.
neon needle
it was 42k last week and there has not been 4k worth of progression in a week
tropic fog
what was new line in gear for? something to unlock? where?
merry pilot
hmm I'm F2P with mediocre luck and am at 46.6k. and I say mediocre luck because ...
Can u share a screenshot of your character screen with all the scores of everything? So I can compare with mine
woeful meteor
Can u share a screenshot of your character screen with all the scores of everyth...
give me an hour lol.... can't at the moment
merry pilot
Lol no worries.
tropic fog
f2p guy with unbound costume )
uncut remnant
hellloooo, i want to ask, how to fix this mini map? i think it shouldn't be moving around like this
woeful meteor
f2p guy with unbound costume )
tacit flame
What screen resolution is this?
woeful meteor
What screen resolution is this?
tacit flame
I see
uncut remnant
thankyouu
neon needle
Is it ToS to buy/sell accounts or give accounts away to someone?
Buying/selling is pretty much always going to be a no.
rigid locust
Buying/selling is pretty much always going to be a no.
Shame on these people 
dawn trail
What should be the average gear score range for f2p players right now if u keep ...
i feel like 45-46k is the expected average at least if you have been clearing raids + putting on sigils. 47-48k is for the upper end considering i have 48k while spending nothing and 42-44k, you're probably somewhat new to the game(started end of s1?)
void wharf
anyone knows if this works in unstable with returning players ?
pure nacelle
yes
void wharf
okay thanks, been spamming it but the 50 doesnt want to get done xD
soft topaz
I can’t even find returning or new players now lol
void wharf
made a second account for new player
a friend is helping with the returning player bit
not sure the returning one counts tbh, had 20 before and now i am spamming unstable
will do another 20 runs and see..
merry pilot
i feel like 45-46k is the expected average at least if you have been clearing ra...
Ive been playing since day 1 but I missed 2 weeks last month being on vacation. I came back and caught up on everything. I was hoping when 160 gear released I would be back to the average score but still off by a bit
dawn trail
Ive been playing since day 1 but I missed 2 weeks last month being on vacation. ...
hmm then prob show your gear, there was a lot to gain in the past couple weeks, i think level 170 weapon gives 1k+ by itself
neon needle
I quit last week because of the 'if you're not 'x' score you're slacking' mentality. XD
pure nacelle
you modify the bg stock like you do normally in editing files
the exception is you keep your char in the picture
dawn trail
Ive been playing since day 1 but I missed 2 weeks last month being on vacation. ...
do you have 3 160 accessories, full 5 piece 150 raid set + 1 165 piece raid set and 170 weapon all reforged?
tropic jetty
Prob silly question, but is the Abyss Foxen mechanically better in any way over the Golem Foxen? (like maybe base cooldowns???) or is it just 20 ticket swagger?
tardy arch
I’m in the same boat as ultra. Day 1 player and my GS is 42.7k (no sigils)
tardy arch
do you have 3 160 accessories, full 5 piece 150 raid set + 1 165 piece raid set ...
With all of these mentioned
tardy arch
Oh wow okay no wonder lol
dawn trail
i mean 500 stat each, idk about as
tardy arch
Oh okay I’m sure it’s still a hefty amount of AS
dawn trail
also you guys are probably behind on mind projection? max is around 7k
tardy arch
No I should be up to date with that. Mind you my refinements are total crap though.
Almost all 20 on defensive and 10s on offensive pieces
dawn trail
a bit on the lower side ya, but probably sigils alone will boost you to 45k+
woeful meteor
do you have 3 160 accessories, full 5 piece 150 raid set + 1 165 piece raid set ...
oh should we be upgrading our raid armors first? I have four Lv160 trinkets at 100/100
dawn trail
oh should we be upgrading our raid armors first? I have four Lv160 trinkets at 1...
well it wouldnt affect the ability score but reforging a 165 piece gives more than reforging a 160 piece
more stats
merry pilot
Yah im goin to start with sigils and see where that gets me
dawn trail
Yah im goin to start with sigils and see where that gets me
just put sigils on 160-170 gear, i wouldn't bother with the 140-150 gear for now
tardy arch
Can oceanic weapons be dismantled?
analog lodge
Can oceanic weapons be dismantled?
Yes
analog lodge
Yup!
soft topaz
yeah the only thing you lose is the sigil if you embedded
brave rune
Has anyone else the problem, that you can not join the eechan drum band since the hot fix yesterday? The leader has no interact prompt for me.
Ok, I do not know what solved it, but I verified files via Steam and was able to join the event via mobile. And I can now join again on PC
tardy arch
Ok, I do not know what solved it, but I verified files via Steam and was able to...
I noticed that changing lines work as well
fallow crystal
anyone knows for the enter the carnaval event if the 28+ days inactive had to be before march 19th? my partner last played on march 26th so i'm wondering if he does not log in until april 25th if it wouls still work for the pink dog mount
woeful meteor
Do we know when M11-M20 will open?
umbral lintel
Do we know when M11-M20 will open?
it will be a staggered release. next week will be m11-20 for DoD, then the week after that will be serpent, then the week after that will be wraith, and etc
wraith stag
If someone buys a new setup specifically to do more dps in blue protocol they are p2w right?
visual kelp
yes 
wraith stag
lyric musk
is there an auto mine >>
wraith stag
is there an auto mine >>
Of course not
silk wharf
woeful meteor
it will be a staggered release. next week will be m11-20 for DoD, then the week ...
Do you have a source for this? I'm gonna trust you, but I'd like to see this visualized.
umbral lintel
Do you have a source for this? I'm gonna trust you, but I'd like to see this vis...
from their twitter
woeful meteor
from their twitter
I see the tweet, but it does not specify that it will be one week at a time.
umbral lintel
I see the tweet, but it does not specify that it will be one week at a time.
just following the pattern set by this image
woeful meteor
so M20 Veil wouldn't be available until May 4.
wraith stag
so M20 Veil wouldn't be available until May 4.
I dont know what Veil is, but Cage would be may 4
o wait
- DoD APR 6
- Snek APR 13
- Wraith APR 20
- Soundless APR 27
- Cage MAY 4
- Illusory MAY 11
Actually, there might be a week where CN got 2
I could just be misunderstanding the calendar but soundless might be weirdge
grizzled pulsar
is this translated right? ._.
psy oblivion
i dont get if its a self buff or a party buff
grizzled pulsar
i didnt understand yet , sorry
its a party buff? who gets the 3% bonus?
and this is the other one i could pick
distant spade
atp is there a reason to farm lvl 75 or any high lvl cocoons?
umbral lintel
atp is there a reason to farm lvl 75 or any high lvl cocoons?
mob density
dapper fjord
Hello I saw a bunny backpack that’s only available linking your crunchyroll account with your BPSR account I already linked them but the only reward I received was a Crunchyroll avatar frame do you know hoy to get the other rewards from crunchyroll in the BPSR account?
ionic dagger
Hello I saw a bunny backpack that’s only available linking your crunchyroll acco...
i think it was a previous reward during november. they seem to change monthly
little fern
Day 2 of having ridiculously high ping, again. 🙁
placid lily
is there no way to set your camara distance? i don't see any option in settings, so i assume i'm just stuck with using scroll wheel every time.
cinder oasis
how do i log in to bspr official page if it is not available in my region?
wraith stag
is there no way to set your camara distance? i don't see any option in settings,...
This?
I haven't ever needed to change my camera distance with scroll wheel
placid lily
i always have that on, but it doesn't actually change the distance, at least what it says is it extends your max distance while in combat, meaning you still have to scroll out
tropic fog
do you guys have no problems with login in now?
solemn bough
can you re-link your bpsr account with another epic games account?
wraith stag
best g4 defense for stormblade?
X6 / X4 / Optional
lyric musk
TNX master
wraith stag
neon needle
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pastel eagle
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Ty
woeful fjord
Hi i think im restricted how cuz i cant share screen shot of my build. maybe cuz i had shared a link of a website. How can i ask for assistance?
umbral lintel
Hi i think im restricted how cuz i cant share screen shot of my build. maybe cuz...
Your level isn’t high enough
dawn trail
best g4 defense for stormblade?
are you moonstrike or iaido
mystic imp
How do you leave aka move out of your current homestead?
limpid arrow
for this season gear 160lv is the max?
wraith stag
for this season gear 160lv is the max?
It depends on what you mean by that
160 is the max you can get from dungeon drops
But raid gear can be upgraded
160 -> 165 -> 170
There's also a 170 raid weapon ( F2P )
And a 180 Ocean Weapon ( 🐳 )
keen robin
How can I get the Tag Weapons?
woeful fjord
How many
blue stones should have now a whale for lvl 180 weapon? Just by farming raids?
soft topaz
How many
blue stones should have now a whale for lvl 180 weapon? Just by farmi...
depends on when you want the lvl 180 weapon
analog lodge
How many
blue stones should have now a whale for lvl 180 weapon? Just by farmi...
I think you'd be at around 19 out of 30 glinting stellar cores if you upgraded to the 160 Ocean immediately back when it released.
I upgraded to 180 last week after nightmare Capra released and I think I had to buy around 15 of them.
soft topaz
also should now start keeping in mind that S3 ocean upgrade is 2 months away too
I saw someone say S3 ocean upgrade costs are 25/30/35
analog lodge
I'm missing 2 then
Make sure you're still doing nightmare bone and light dragon until the other s2 nightmares come out, as they still give stellar cores til then.
austere thicket
...?
umbral lintel
trading system trick still work in s2, right?
Not really harder if you knew how it worked.
umbral lintel
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pastel eagle
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ty
solid galleon
Make sure you're still doing nightmare bone and light dragon until the other s2 ...
Dragons will stop giving cores after all S2 NM come out??
analog lodge
Yeah, the s2 nightmares share drops with dragons. When Nightmare Capri came out, Izcorgiky no longer dropped stellar cores.
solid galleon
Yeah, the s2 nightmares share drops with dragons. When Nightmare Capri came out,...
I see, I hadn't noticed. That's tough 😭
umbral lintel
Always gonna be 4 glints a week unless a lucky box drops
wraith stag
I see, I hadn't noticed. That's tough 😭
Not really, it hasn't changed o.0
4 -> 4
Just different place
safe cliff
Yeah, the s2 nightmares share drops with dragons. When Nightmare Capri came out,...
Ice dragon and capricorn will drop cores depending on which one is done first though. Is this going to change once all the NMs come out?
analog lodge
Good question. If that is indeed the case, I can't imagine them completely cutting off drops from dragons. Though you'd still need the glittering fluxgold from S2 raids for ocean, so there still wouldn't be a reason to run dragons. Plus the chance at the mythic sigil drops.
safe cliff
I still run easy and hard dragons for modules lol
keen robin
I still run easy and hard dragons for modules lol
Based
keen robin
Yeah, the s2 nightmares share drops with dragons. When Nightmare Capri came out,...
Didn't notice that, F