questions-and-help

[tacit flame]

Am I right?

[primal acorn]

2 weeks from this Monday past

Whatever date that is

[tacit flame]

Hard : Erosion Raid is 16MAR26

[primal acorn]

Then a week later is master 6-10+NM raid 1

[wraith stag]

ya

ZERO

when are u getting me an ocean weapon

https://time.is Using this could help!

[tacit flame]

can you tell me what are the date since I am so lazy to do the math.

[wraith stag]

day 54 is yesterday

then just add 1 week for every 7 days

Day 54 - 9
Day 61 - 16
Day - 23
Day 75 - 30

[tacit flame]

[wraith stag]

omg its day

(its actually 68)

[drowsy oyster]

will try it. thanks!

[wraith stag]

goodluck!!!

[tacit flame]

I am so confused.

[wraith stag]

Day 54 is March 9th

61 is March 16

68 ( PRETEND ITS 67 ) is the 23rd

and day 75 is march 30

also, ignore day 74 that happens on the 75th too

just open calendar and it's the next monday o-o

up until day 96 its just every weekly reset

nothing happens on day 89 so it skips a week

[tacit flame]

dry period

I wonder what is the event for March already

[tardy arch]

I keep forgetting to buy it right before it expires 😭

[wraith stag]

[median horizon]

When they fix the servers, balance the classes, propper rewards on events, DECENT (not good) rng on modules, and better drop of material and imagines on world bosses (if u are lucky 2 legendary mats each week, but less is more consistent).
After this call me

[wraith stag]

time to make 67 discord alts and submit feedback

[median horizon]

Wish we are heard because since s1 started i dont feel it xD

[round inlet]

Should I play this game?

[quaint ermine]

[vapid obsidian]

How do you set a mic to be used for this game?

[deep nacelle]

Thats a lot of money

[safe cliff]

I think everyone wants stable servers and good class balance, but I don't think we should make the game easier by just handing out more stuff

[median horizon]

the thing is: Useful stuff

Not game easier

[safe cliff]

getting more scarce resources that directly tie to account strength is making the game easier

granted you can argue someone can swipe for all this stuff and bypass the scarcity, but that's a different can of worms

[median horizon]

Its giving you a reward for expending your time, who isnt annoyed of maybe a week u get nothing? How many people since s1 only got a golden imagine on key box or none?

[safe cliff]

that's an argument against variance and not average though

giving out more stuff to account for variance doesn't make that much sense IMO

[median horizon]

Im not f2p, but for non spenders getting your mats, your imagines, and your refine to a point that is decent its not friendly, this is worst for people that will come new to the game when new languages drops and will get saturated

and we need more players definetly

[safe cliff]

I think f2p progression rate is fine right now at roughly 1 T5 imagine per season

in terms of refines, plenty of people just rely on bound resources for those and you don't fall that far behind, more like you need to skip defensive stuff as dps, etc.

[median horizon]

Yeah, if defensives are more than 15 or even 10 it gets harder

[safe cliff]

yeah, I do think there's consideration for new players, but that probably should be addressed separately and not through giving everyone blanket faster progression

[median horizon]

Idk, i just think that some rewards like reforge stones 2 weeks after u finished your qualities 100 is a lost

[safe cliff]

though I have no idea how that should be approached

[median horizon]

In 2 days they gonna stream the changes and new things so lets see

[safe cliff]

hmm

I do think in terms of themepark mmos, blue protocol is probably one of the less punishing ones for letting newer players catch up

though that's not necessarily saying much

[median horizon]

Yeah its really friendly, also about the time u need to play it, u can just put 2h on monday for raids and dailies and the rest of the weeks dailies are 40 min

And im generous, u can be a lot faster

[quaint ermine]

[stark turret]

well its definitely not lost, its for people that have multiple class unlocks to help them reforge easily on their other classes

[median horizon]

Well, full 100 on all 11 and u have 999 stones each week

[normal parrot]

they should of gave 160 reforge stones even if we cant use them yet

[stark turret]

cant really trade all 999 unless u do unli dungeons for the alloy shards to exchange for it

[normal parrot]

idk i bought 740 lol

[stark turret]

are you sleeping? lol

[median horizon]

Yesterday i bought 490 and i didnt do any dungeons since 2 weeks ago because i have all accessories xD

[quaint ermine]

Grinders

[normal parrot]

i kinda gave up grinding i couldnt get better glove no matter how many dungeons i did im just chilling til 160

[median horizon]

The point is, why u want 15 or 20 when u have 999 if u play a bit

[quaint ermine]

my main issue rn with the game is the lag

plz fix lag plz

[stark turret]

annoying server lag on SV specially if 1 mob is missing lol

[median horizon]

here in europe had between 100 and 140ms since start of the game, depends where is a bit less or more between that, in South america i think they have similar or worst, hope now NA has lag maybe they change something

[quaint ermine]

today in a raid everyone lagged and then we couldn’t do it

[median horizon]

Also maybe somepeople dont consider this but playing a class with 30ms or 120ms can be more than 100k dps diff

[quaint ermine]

I think ping issue is fine…not fine but it’s been there and ppl adjust

but raids lagging everyone is like

[median horizon]

Yeah, in raid is worst, the worst lag i experienced in the game was when s1 had a lot of players doing a world boss, raid bosses or in very very huge pull on a m5

[quaint ermine]

World boss lag was just funny though

[normal parrot]

i mainly lag with 12-20 players on screen at once but I hate when the mechanics lag or i do the same skill animation 6 times til it casts

[quaint ermine]

[median horizon]

Last week as iaido raid was horrible with the lag and i couldnt throw a single skill because i dont know if i recovered it or no

[quaint ermine]

I love watching the server die while everyone is just bonking a boss for a potential weapon box

[quaint ermine]

iaido with ping issue is

sounds stressful

[median horizon]

yeah, i cant recommend icicle, iaido or another classes that needs to fill x number in low time or spamming skills because u are just gonna do a lot less dmg because the server is like this

[soft topaz]

wbc is funny becasue wbc is usually not in doubt (and/or doesn't really matter as long as one finishes it W or L)

[quaint ermine]

I wouldn’t even be able to tell u whether wbc lags or not

Cause I fully afk auto in those

[median horizon]

I want to know the exact moment wbc became umplayable if u dont make a party before going in

s1 was just go in and kill

Now, even 140 gear, if u enter without making party u are gonna leave it at 20% hp or more, because low dmg or afk people

On thursday last week i entered because was my last and didnt matter if it was kill or not, of the 18 of us who started, only 4 of us remained at the end xd, when i noticed i just afk inside

[vapid obsidian]

Think its just dragon, golem wbc is easy clear

[rustic temple]

Robot is free clear even on just queueing without party, for Ragna / Dragon you need a proper party.

[weary dust]

is the s2 msq meant to be long

or can i skip it

[rustic temple]

There's a story?

[weary dust]

s1 and 2 story

gulp

[rustic temple]

I don't know the story, my escape button was too fast.

[weary dust]

ais

real

[trail bane]

ummm what was/is raid roullete? xD

[trail bane]

Anyhone elses twitch drops bugged again? Saying "connect" when on the page where you collect the drops yet its connected and can go though the connect process again and still get it >_>

Im gonna have to log in another account and do it all again arent i -_- just want homestead coins...

[umbral lintel]

dang you really waited until last minute to resolve this issue

xd

[umbral lintel]

bro....what is your username

[weary dust]

?

im a nice lovely egirl

[umbral lintel]

yeah whatever. im watching you, creep.

[trail bane]

@umbral lintel Somehow didnt even know about until i saw it posted in homestead today - also do you know what raid roullete things is?

[umbral lintel]

#event-news

you should probably get the events announcement role so you dont miss discord events

[trail bane]

I saw the winners post but i didnt see an announcement post - so dont even know what it is.

[umbral lintel]

#event-news message

[trail bane]

Weirdly i remember seeing every post before and after that one xD

[split flare]

Anyone know what the hidden achievement is for A Page of Yesterday on the Star Footprints section of the Achievements?

[neon needle]

I died so many times in S1 to mechanics that showed for like 0.5 seconds (nowhere near enough time to do anything about it) or not at all.. XD ... Glad to see it's not just me [feedback]

[manic matrix]

Likely related to the Dark Mist Fortress time machine that never released, I remember it being an achievement in S1 but seems like they just hid it

[buoyant nexus]

Question, are items listed on the trading center there for 24 hours?
Is there ever a heads up when a listing is about to expire?
(I don't think I've seen but maybe I don't check often enough)

[wraith stag]

• Yes
• Not anymore

Additionally, if an item is put on Notice first add an hour.

[buoyant nexus]

Ahh that makes sense - I thought I was crazy remembering there being a timer or notice prior to expiry

[wraith stag]

Yeah, we had one back in s1 and it was removed in s2

[buoyant nexus]

Hopefully I can use my cooking alt to snipe some of the junk thats been sitting for months (Or some random player will be happy haha)

[lean thistle]

Is this game worth playing? The reviews are a bit worrying

[wraith stag]

Goodluck!

[wraith stag]

Don't go off steam reviews, it was review bombed.

The game does have it's issues but steam covers almost none of them

And exaggerates many things into problems

[buoyant nexus]

I've liked it - scratched my mmo itch without having to be overly committed. Lots of catch up options / F2p friendly. If you join a guild with an active discord should have a lot of fun.
(I heard the new player experience is a bit confusing/rushed feeling since s2 but can't comment on that fully)

[wraith stag]

Epic Games is alot more accurate

[lean thistle]

Alright thanks

[round inlet]

Whats f2p like on this game?

can i catch up to end game stuff

[wraith stag]

Easily yes, especially due to the reclaim hub

Well, easily provided you put in some effort I should say

Its not free

[round inlet]

I played for like an hour so far. Like the world a lot. I did the free lvl 60 skip thing but i have no idea what to do, just do the msq or what

[wraith stag]

https://maxroll.gg/blue-protocol/getting-started/season-2-game-plan-for-weeks-1-5#week-2-header This should help!

You can skip ahead days though because theres no longer a time gate

But it will give a good rough blueprint, make sure to get everything from reclaim hub

[round inlet]

hmmmmm

should i just start going thru s1 msq or should i be doing some of this stuff

[soft topaz]

What's floor 50/55/60 bosses this biweek

[wraith stag]

Finishing S2 main story is important because it gives dreambloom season exp, side quests for the same reason

[round inlet]

hmmm okay

im guessing i have to do s1 first?

[orchid igloo]

s1 msq gives 3 talent points at some point

i dont remember where

[round inlet]

😵

[orchid igloo]

when u get the points tho, u can skip the rest

u can do s2 quest now without completing s1

also u will want to do the talent training quests too

[round inlet]

starting new game is hard

[orchid igloo]

else u wont get all ur talent points

[void wharf]

I’d suggest going for the daily and weekly activities, get them out of the way and then progress normally through story line to enjoy the experience properly. Once your more settled and have more information on the game probably do your weekly raids aswell and start learning more class oriented details and what to farm gear wise / imagines .. etc

[quaint ermine]

[fossil zinc]

Hey, does anyone know if the exquisite mat boxes from the mystery shop or colourful shop. If bought now, can it be used in S3 for S3 mats? Becauses it says S1-S2 mats.

[quaint ermine]

no one knows for sure until s3 comes out in cn next week tbh

[fossil zinc]

Ah, ty for the fast reply! Then I wait for that first 👍

[quaint ermine]

[main latch]

no it wont be usable for s3 mats

have to wait for s3 version in s3

do not buy if you want s3 mats

was someone who brought ton of s1 ones hoping to use for s2

it didnt convert/upgrade

unless they say on stream friday will be different expect it to be the same

[fossil zinc]

Ah... srr to hear that.. Thank you for the headsup and the info tho! I will wait for the stream first for sure 👍

[quaint ermine]

I thought they changed it

After ppl complained

[main latch]

they changed vaults ones to be s1+2 (and new mystery store buying)

if you have s1 ones in your inventory it stayed s1

[quaint ermine]

really

I didn’t noticed

[main latch]

like monster hunt rank stuff s1 only boxes

[quaint ermine]

for some reason I was under the impression they fixed it

but dang they didn’t

Rip to the ppl who hoarded

[wraith stag]

幻想作为游戏中重要的战力养成，一直都是冒险者们十分关注的问题。在S3赛季开启后，冒险者当前背包里已经获得的顶级材料·自选礼盒将会更名为“S1~S2顶级材料·自选礼盒"，新赛季的意志材料将不会加入其中。

同时，蔷薇宝石商店将会在赛季更新后上架包含S3赛季意志材料在内的顶级材料·自选礼盒。冒险者请务必留意，不要买错材料礼盒了哦~

Developers confirmed no on the CN version

[quaint ermine]

kithi with the source

[wraith stag]

[soft topaz]

oh yeah, when's the CN S3 stream

[wraith stag]

The 13th!

[soft topaz]

13th CN time or a diff time

[deep nacelle]

the day of the eos

[wraith stag]

@quaint ermine SSR muku chief in s3

[wraith stag]

CN

[neon needle]

I ain't reading that :p [cuz I can't]

[wraith stag]

passive is 35% crit dmg essentially

[umbral lintel]

CN S3 Pre-launch Special Program will be lived at <t:1773403200:f>
https://www.vxbilibili.com/opus/1177391702833365001

Watch it here: https://live.bilibili.com/1722887868

Ripped from the database server lol

[deep nacelle]

do we need account to watch the stream?

[umbral lintel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Probably

[keen shell]

haha

you fools!

Shall I share the gospel with my infinite bilibili!

oh

wait

!

ENTRY PASSWORD!?!

https://tenor.com/view/tamaki-crying-sad-corner-gif-18817664

[rustic temple]

I think this " password " entry thingy is just to protect it until it actually airs and avoid early spoilers.

It'll most likely be removed when the stream goes live or close enough, there's still a ton of time

[fast pumice]

just use ur phone number and make an account on bilibili?

[keen shell]

steal?

I've had a bilibili account for yeaaaaaaaaaars. Since uh, Beyond Light

but..password

[keen shell]

six years

[trail bane]

Is this for iaidos benefit ya think?!

https://giphy.com/gifs/muppetwiki-sesame-street-muppets-elmo-fUQ4rhUZJYiQsas6WD

[wraith stag]

Passive is much better for sure, active we gotta see how much 14,000 crit is in S3 and compare the active with the new crit -> crit damage conversion passive Iaido got

It's more crit rate less crit damage on active

Active: 12% crit + 14000
Passive: 35% Crit Damage

Vs

Active: 40% Crit Damage + 4400 iirc crit rate ( could change )
25% Crit Damage passive

[trail bane]

hmm

I feel like we need crit dmg more than we need crit rate ( closer to the end atleasy anyway )

[wraith stag]

I'm a bit skeptical on it for Iaido since we don't need that much crit rate, but they did just buff uhh

Iaido buffs
居合斩CD改成0.5秒
Iaido Slash CD changed to 0.5s

精通加成改成3.4
Mastery Bonus is changed to 3.4 (?)

暴击溢出加爆伤从0.32改成0.88
Crit overflow's Crit DMG bonus increased from 0.32 > 0.88

+1-5因子改成只+1不减持续时间
Volt Surge Factors no longer reduces duration of Volt Surge but still provides +1 Charge count

[wraith stag]

ye

[trail bane]

crit overflow dmg i see you

[wraith stag]

yaaaaaa thats the big one

[trail bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/magicedenofficial-laugh-coming-together-its-WjUsnwCT1xOvDDOVTi

[safe cliff]

I think conditional passive is actually kind of hard to upkeep depending on class

well, I guess building it back up is not that hard

was just thinking 2s is a really short window and you'd lose stacks doing anything other than attacking

[wraith stag]

We can't really say yet, it depends on crit hits... could be a high chance depending on crit rate

[wraith stag]

Yaaa this is fair

[safe cliff]

my reading is that it's basically crit rate^2

I understood it to mean that when you crit, the chance of gaining a stack is equal to your crit rate

[wraith stag]

ya

iaido with 60% crit rate is virtually 100%

But like, S1 we hit 55% crit rate

S2 you hit over 60

S3 we dunno how crit will keep building

and 14,000 might be ALOT

imo we need to know the crit calcs

[safe cliff]

I think 14k is probably higher than the amount other t5 imagines will give

[wraith stag]

if it scales well and every class has decent crit rate then its pog

or high hitcount, beam would insta max it essentially

im struggling to think of a class that wouldnt use it well

would need low hitcount + low crit scaling

[safe cliff]

the ones that don't deal damage XD

[wraith stag]

LMAO

[safe cliff]

actually I don't know how other classes work

[wraith stag]

unironically true

[safe cliff]

isnt' there one where you guarantee crits independent of your crit rate or something?

[wraith stag]

wolf

[safe cliff]

ok, that would probably still prefer MC then

[wraith stag]

ngl that needs to be removed

its crippling the class

remove guaranteed crit, buff multipliers, let them stack crit too

or

give them a crit -> crit damage passive with actually good scaling

[safe cliff]

hmm

I don't think it's necessarily interesting for every spec to just build crit

though it might be better for balance

[wraith stag]

the problem is

its still a crit class

u have classes like goonstrike that doesnt build crit

but thats cause they have other stats prio

in wolf case its that it spawns with crit cap

so it will run out of stats to stack

iaido has that problem too atm

and it heckin sucks

when 160 gear comes our damage just drops off a cliff in comparison because we alr hit 60% crit rate 32% mastery ( without fox ) and enough haste rn

160 gear just has more stats to build and we can't scale from any of it anymore

[safe cliff]

Oo..

[quaint ermine]

I’ve heard

[timid marten]

is misty teardrop one time use?

[rustic temple]

No.

[loud glacier]

How to change region?

[wraith stag]

What do you mean?

[loud glacier]

current in mid east i wanna change to China bec i can't add my friend

[umbral lintel]

you need to make a china account on the china website

and no. nothing transfers over. you gotta start from scratch

probably need a vpn

[loud glacier]

okay how to check my region

[umbral lintel]

where did you download the game?

[loud glacier]

Steam

[umbral lintel]

then you're on global

[loud glacier]

okay

[umbral lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-can-you-read-gif-22646390

https://www.wegame.com.cn/home/ @loud glacier

[loud glacier]

What's this

[umbral lintel]

you wanted to play the game on the china servers dont you?

[loud glacier]

oh okay thanks

[grim dome]

Is there a way to know if i apply the oblivion debuff? I dont notice anything under the boss health bar like some debuffs do

[umbral lintel]

you sure its a debuff and not a buff?

might want to check your applied buffs

[grim dome]

i also didnt see any new buffs

[umbral lintel]

ok so i do see the debuff is being applied but you wouldnt know unless you have a dps meter up

[grim dome]

is there no in game way to know?

[umbral lintel]

doesnt seem like it

[grim dome]

thanks!

[steep elbow]

the game lagged and a outfit i didnt want to open was opened is there a way to get it reverted back?

[main latch]

submit a support ticket and pray

[void wharf]

I have a question regarding nappo boxes from dungeons .. how many can i get per week per dungeon? Aiming for those 20 dreamweave dusts per

[wraith stag]

iirc 5

[void wharf]

so 5 per dungeon so about 30 total?

this will be my new farm then xD

[wraith stag]

Oh, it's not per dungeon

it's per week

So if you get 5 from one dungeon you won't get rewards from the other dungeons nappo

[void wharf]

ah okay

thanks for clarifying

[wraith stag]

[pure nacelle]

my new favorite commission to do

just in a team

[soft topaz]

yeah you can't do that if you're solo and running all 6 at once lol

[pure nacelle]

[vague veldt]

how do dragon raid rewards work? do you only receive them once a week regardless of difficulty?

[wraith stag]

You can run the same raid on normal / hard / nightmare and get rewards on each difficulty

You can't run the same difficulty multiple times and get any additional rewards ( besides friendship points )

[vague veldt]

is there a way to track which difficulties I've completed?

[serene mason]

So i didnt realize mssging in someone else's guild recruitment would get me banned from the role(been a minute since i read the rules) so am i just forever unable to advertise my guild?

[sullen bobcat]

does iaido have build variety like moonstrike has

it didn't look like it had much but I'm also not a iaido knower

[pure nacelle]

in s3, iaido will have way more build variety than moonstrike

in s2, you can build haste iaido (trolling), vacuum iaido (top), and 11/10 iaido (s1 meta)

but the playstyles will heavily differ compared to moonstrike which is the same gameplay loop

[sullen bobcat]

💥

makes sense

all the builds in moon are just a slightly different flavor, like vanilla vs french vanilla

[rustic temple]

Moonstrike flavor is basically :
Sonic speed meme
Regular Moon
The most powerful blade vs X

[sullen bobcat]

yeah

theres like 4 builds I know of

critmaxxing, luckmaxxing, hastemaxxing, and whatever we were doing in season 1 I guess

Ive not seen a hastemaxxer though I think I was the only one I knew but then I dropped moon to play concerto because trying to play haste moon on my internet is trolling

like theoretically I should be mogging but then my friend beats my damage in literally every dimension possible but I have the better gear so yeah Im a healer now

[median plover]

what would be the best/most flexible class for tanking

also whay would be a nice second class, preferably dps that goes well with the tank class ill pick

[pure nacelle]

probably heavy guardian - block

you get access to a gather which is quite good for utility

[safe cliff]

secondary dps is generally not going to work well because underinvested dps tend to suck

[pure nacelle]

and then your dps offspec would be vanguard/wind knight

what cows says is true, but in raids

as long as you have some competent dps

it should be fine

[median plover]

do HG and vanguard/wk have the same stay needs / build

also do diff specs need diff builds?

[pure nacelle]

yes

because your focused substats are quite different

HG and vanguard share the same strength main stat

which makes the transition less awkward

i dont really remember which tank class paired really well with the off spec

but you can service your dps spec on the previous gear cycle

[median plover]

ah yeah this is what i wanted to know xD

[stoic maple]

Hi, where do I get Stasis X5 - G7 factor? I have bought G7 Factor Select Box, but it allows to choose only Stasis X1 or X2

[stone haven]

You probably selected the class specific factor select, to get other stasis factors, you have to select the stasis factor select item from the box rather than your class-specific selector

[stoic maple]

Ah, I had to scroll right to see this category, LOL, 😂 thank you!

[wraith stag]

HG block is Luck Mastery
HG EF is Mastery Versatility

Both Wind Knights stack crit with it being the mainstat of Aerial.

Also, Imagines would be a big problem.

Wait... why not just build tank as a dps too

on one build

[median plover]

so for every spec and then for every class ill have a separate loadout then

[wraith stag]

then loadout one tank build and one dps build for it

[median plover]

i mean if there is one ill take it

full tank for group stuff then dps for solo stuff ig

[wraith stag]

solo stuff?

[median plover]

no solo content in this game?

[median plover]

but either way what would be the ideal class or spec for this

[wraith stag]

not without intentionally making it way way harder on yourself

[median plover]

oh lol so i assume u mean no mandatory solo content in the game

[wraith stag]

Either HG would work, build towards tanking first then DPS after imo

[white eagle]

Why not just go Shield Knight?

[median plover]

got it thanks

[white eagle]

Shield spec => Haste/Mastery
Recovery => Crit/Mastery

[wraith stag]

I considered recommending Shield Knight since it has similar scaling to Vanguard but I think HG solves all problems

and does so alot better

[median plover]

wait so if im f2p ideally no second class so i can funnel all my shi into one char/clas

[white eagle]

You got a point there (also from what I've noticed in raids, HGs outstrip SKs in aggro gen now if they don't use role skills)

[median plover]

i honestly have no idea what those mean

i just want a dps and a tank

unless the tank can somewhat do damage without changing stuff

loadouts/stats eyc

[white eagle]

I'd recommend going Tank, they also do damage with Shattered Illusion rn. Don't expect the DPS kind of damage alr

[wraith stag]

Yeah that would be easier initially HG can output some impressive damage when on a DPS build this season.

Imagines would be alot easier to focus on too in my opinion.

• Support Build: Tempest Ogre ( Focus on getting this, need to farm currency ) + Optional
• DPS Build: Blackstone Commander ( easily farmable ) + Bluespine Lizard ( easily farmable )

You would use the support build for all forms of mobbing, then swap to the DPS build for bossing.

[wraith stag]

oh wow LMAO i didn't know that

[white eagle]

Yeah, I was like, "wtf is this HG on crack or something?" when I met one

I can't snatch the aggro without role skilling LMFAO

[median plover]

when u say support does thst include tanking?

[median plover]

and which spec is this for HG? the block or the other one

[wraith stag]

[wraith stag]

yes

(both)

[white eagle]

Tank +1

[wraith stag]

If being technical, HG Block will be stronger late game in single target while Earthfort is stronger in AoE

HG Block can do some pretty good ST dps

[median plover]

oh i see, where u getting these data

[wraith stag]

The first picture is a run I did

The second picture is from

【4.1格挡巨刃sdm52wdps（50/55层）-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/ydrXvj4

[white eagle]

Holy, 500k

[wraith stag]

not even that geared unironically

[inner plank]

did they move where the server is being hosted?

me and my OCE friends all noticed a 100 ping increase recently

[gentle totem]

[neon needle]

server lag has been ongoing since last weekend

[inner plank]

It has been jittering in raids for sure

[neon needle]

Yeh if you look at feedback, people started complaining about it last weekend... so something's up

[inner plank]

But constant 100 ping increase and my Europe friends getting better ping feels sus

That's all

Hope they didn't move the server otherwise we're cooked 😔

[neon needle]

highly doubt it

it did this in s1 too and lag just got worse and worse

[inner plank]

I do vaguely remember that bit of time

It was around ice dragon right

[neon needle]

not sure the exact when but it got really bad

[trail bane]

You can trace your ping to see which hop is the biggest increase and then investigate from there. You can use exitlag or try ask your isp about the hop see if it can rerouted or something xD
Wasnt there some sabotage to underwater cables or something few weeks back?

Rip Highguard - forgot i was in that discord. They achieved the golden EOS , when will it be our turn next? 😄

[umbral lintel]

We’re surprisingly doing better than that 100million dollar game

[trail bane]

I also played Dreadmyst while that was up and running too - rip.

[umbral lintel]

Deadmyst

[trail bane]

Honestly highguard was absolute cancel culture - even if it wasnt the best game in the world it should have been able to go much longer than this.

I genuinely feel bad for the people responsible for it :/

[tranquil remnant]

where can i get info about cn server in advance? really curious about the new class

[quaint ermine]

All the in advance stuff is from test server testers who’s leaking stuff

so it’s not official and it’s by word of mouth and kinda just spreads thru chats

But there’s an official stream tmr or tonight Chinese time for s3

[manic matrix]

It wasn't cancel culture, the game was just uninspired generic slop in a saturated market which also was extremely boring to play

Live service game with no players = no future

[glacial shell]

if you healer and when take daily commission will you get commission like purify the void (S1) or you just gonna get non battle commission ?

[soft topaz]

people blame how it got announced at the game awards, but the more that's come out the more it was kinda doomed before it even started

[manic matrix]

I don't think class matters when accepting commission, everyone gets the same set of quest the same day

[manic matrix]

If anything the Game award gave the game a chance to exist, else it would have never reached 100k concurrent players on launch day

[umbral lintel]

100k players day one and 99.9% checked out after that lol

It was doomed from the start

[glacial shell]

i see so you need party to clear battle commission when you using healer

[umbral lintel]

Or you could just switch to smite

We have loadouts now

[manic matrix]

As Lifebind or Concerto yeah I don't see myself doing any solo content on those classes

Smite and Dissonance should be fine

even without leveling any of their core skills with books

[glacial shell]

i see

[quaint ermine]

As icicle I swap to smite so I don’t die doing elites

[glacial shell]

so smite with random gear can solo daily ?

[neon needle]

if you're patient.. x3

[honest nexus]

I just got into the slumber event, and I'm already at 100% slumberdream value, how come ?

[neon needle]

wish I could help but ... I'm avoiding that event still lol

There are lots in here that know it tho

just.. gotta wait for one to pop in

[placid lily]

i was gonna ask a question, but i don't see the option to post my photo along with it what's up with that?

[neon needle]

you probably haven't yapped enough to post images?

[placid lily]

i've done it a few times before, is what's strange

[neon needle]

I think the mods mentioned a bit ago that the perms got messed up, so maybe ping them and check?

[placid lily]

ah, idk anything about discord, i'll just let it be

[neon needle]

Master dungeons 15-20, raids

[placid lily]

and of course, fashion

[wraith stag]

Did you equip your masks and charms before going in?

[wraith stag]

Ask the question and send me the picture, I'll post it

[wraith stag]

• 3 Raids
• 6 Dungeons
• Roguelike
• Hating on Goonstrikes

[honest nexus]

I didn't know that was a thing ;_;
We just have to click once on them, right ?

[wraith stag]

[wraith stag]

Hit Archive

[wraith stag]

[honest nexus]

Tank u 😄

[placid lily]

how long do you have before a boss enrages? and is there an easy way to keep track or do you just have to remember the time when you started?

[deep nacelle]

there is a icon

on the boss

[left marlin]

icon is the guy having heartattack

[neon needle]

Is boring and I don't like it. XD

[neon needle]

I'd rather something like adepts, not another dungeon-type thing.

[wraith stag]

makes sense ud like adepts as a sm*te

I hated it

[neon needle]

that's loom :p

[wraith stag]

LOL

[neon needle]

I meant the first one

[wraith stag]

it was good in adept too, just not giga broken

the first one was even worse

i hated it even more than adept trial²

[neon needle]

my daughter did better in adepts than I did as a HG

I loved the first one.. and of course Loom.

But this.. meh. If I could never run it again I'd be happy with that. It's just boring.. and highly confusing.

[wraith stag]

• Anti melee
• Boring
• One class >>>>>>> the others
• Same thing every floor

full autoy too

0/10

[wraith stag]

o_o how confusing

[neon needle]

if I need a map telling me where to go, it's overly confusing.

[wraith stag]

u need a map?

i dont even look at map it doesnt show chests

[neon needle]

If I did it alone I would. I've done it twice so far and just followed others.

[wraith stag]

ehhhh

just

run for every chest you see

skip mobs

[neon needle]

I'd rather just not do it XD

[wraith stag]

run straight ( literally its a straight line )

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-roronoa-zoro-black-leg-sanji-the-road-just-ends-how-the-hell-can-anyone-get-lost-on-a-straight-path-gif-16427004

then go to flamehorn, kill it

do event quest and fight boss

0-0

[neon needle]

we went all over the place when I did it last time

it's not fun enough that I want to do it ever again

[wraith stag]

i see why u got confused then

this was a solo without red weapon**

if u go all over thats a bad party imo ( or hitting 800 for weekly )

you really should just be going straight and open chests you see along the way

kill mini boss do event done

with a good party you can probably do 2 mintue runs

[neon needle]

I choose: pretend event doesn't exist

[wraith stag]

legal cheats? o.0

the heck

[neon needle]

I honestly don't even remember the rewards for it.. since you can only see the shop at the location.. and I haven't been there since the first day XD

[wraith stag]

15 modules and 10 gacha pulls ( imagine )

thats why i said whalepat if u can afford to skip that

[neon needle]

... that's not worth doing XD

[wraith stag]

see

o no wait its 20 modules

[neon needle]

imagine pulls are garbage. and I hate modules. [my 2 least favorite systems in-game]

[wraith stag]

yeah thats op as heck to me

my modules suck

[neon needle]

so do mine. that's all I get is garbage.

[wraith stag]

wtf is a legal cheat LMFAO

is that some joke im missing or?...

[neon needle]

probably just means the going straight through mini to boss

or something

[wraith stag]

oh LOL

https://tenor.com/view/joke-u-joke-gif-17523343178668465105

replace you with me

i failed HAHAHAHAA

[neon needle]

just my guess XD

[wraith stag]

is there actually some way to clear it even faster? o-o

spill

I did load in with one before but it disappeared after 0.2 seconds

no clue how to do that one XD

since my mount can fly if that was a thing id be doing 2m solo runs already

[kind karma]

Will G10 factors release in the upcoming week?

[wraith stag]

It comes with 160 gear

So it should be next next monday

[keen shell]

You da real G10 Factor

https://tenor.com/view/smug-anime-nisekoi-false-love-smirk-gif-16228071

[quaint ermine]

What’s up questioners and helpers

[wraith stag]

omg its rein

[quaint ermine]

omg kithi

kithi need week

[wraith stag]

wait i need to

fix the emoji

[quaint ermine]

U gotta show them how op iaido is

[wraith stag]

since u changed

LMAO

[quaint ermine]

NO ITS OK

My favorite pfp

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-lizard-hoppers-pixar-tom-gif-5562936930860823396

[wraith stag]

[quaint ermine]

BUT TY FOR TRYING ON UR DATA YESTERDAY

https://tenor.com/view/shiroko-blue-archive-dancing-chibi-shiroko-gif-8428774011917980617

KITHI GOAT

DOES EVERYTHING HE CAN

UNTIL HE CANT

[wraith stag]

LMAO TYY ON THE BRIGHT SIDE MY NETS BACK TOO

[wraith stag]

now i just need server lag fix

ruining my combos...

old rots i did before on lower speed

no longer work with higher speed

went to 35 as cant do a rota i did before at 31.5

[quaint ermine]

YIPPIEEE

[wraith stag]

30-31 speed and i cant do 28

[quaint ermine]

I also hate the server lag

[wraith stag]

[neon needle]

everyone hates the lag

[quaint ermine]

[river gate]

does breakthrough retain embedding sigil?

[rustic temple]

Yes.

[river gate]

thanks

[solar wren]

does anyone know when do they release 160 gear? 👀

[neon needle]

mon

[solar wren]

ty~

[wraith stag]

Should be next next monday

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1426133383955611679/1481136528188244018/image.png?ex=69b431a2&is=69b2e022&hm=abb048930929a369aad00c958fae174503dce4acf6112884189b2f6a7d99e854&

Day 61 is 16th
Day 68 is 23rd

atm we are day 57

[solar wren]

whistle nice nice~

[quaint ermine]

Ariawyn is ready to scale

[honest sphinx]

is oce pings gonna get fixed D:

[rustic temple]

No

[vestal agate]

no

[rustic temple]

It boils down to : ||Pay more for the server operation, buy more ocean weapons and imagines + cosmetics||

[wraith stag]

I second this idea, please send red orbs to #231426

[rough gyro]

Looks like you can double up on identical factors on the 2nd tree (slumberfest)? Anyone confirm if this is the case or perhaps a bug

[past void]

is there a updated dps meter i can use ?

[umbral lintel]

zdps

[edgy mountain]

s3 will be falcon season trust

[manic matrix]

Sorry, S3 has been claimed by Vanguard already

[obsidian oriole]

Smite will get a dps set, trust

[manic matrix]

💀

[rustic temple]

Twax will become the new Critmoon, Iaido regains it's glory though, and Beat performers stops being gatekept

[last inlet]

[vague veldt]

is moonstrike a better dps in s2 than iaido?

[rustic temple]

Look into your heart and pick the blade that shines the brightest to you.

[vague veldt]

got it, I choose kitchen knife

[rustic temple]

||Answer is playing Critmoon though||

[vague veldt]

is that basically moonmoon but with high crit?

[rustic temple]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-stevens-enjoying-moons-streams-attacking-gif-26650353

Check the stormblade forum and find the guide to it.

For whatever reason linking to it gave me a time-out

[noble nimbus]

I'm a returning player (played during release) and I was attempting to fight Denvel? I can't seem to find his fight again, and would like help :')

[vague veldt]

got it, cheers!

[stone haven]

Either in your quest log (Press on it on mobile, press l on pc) and select the s1 quest.
If you mean the dungeon, s1 dungeons are gone

[noble nimbus]

Awh okay thank you :(

I've already done the quest so yea, guess I'm kinda outta luck

[languid furnace]

Hey does researching fish make them more likely to appear even if I don't use them/their buff for fishing?

[rustic temple]

You use their " buff " to make it more likely that they appear and in higher star versions.

[royal talon]

i cant find start when i oppend the game?

how can i fix it

[rustic temple]

It's over.

Which version are you using? Steam? Epic? Stand-alone?

[royal talon]

steam

[rustic temple]

And you can't press start when the game is opened?

I doubt you use a VPN since you're on steam..

Hmm

You're right

Mine's also gone

Appears to be a steam problem

Epic and Stand-alone works

[autumn marsh]

it doesnt work on steam for you? works fine for me

[obsidian owl]

i cant login too on steam xD

[neon needle]

happens way too often with Steam. Get the standalone launcher instead.

[I legitimately had to uninstall/reinstall Steam 4 times in a week because of that error.. and I had to reinstall my entire game library each time 😐 ]

[sinful sun]

im also having this issue

[stable epoch]

same

[sinful sun]

this is the first time ive had this tho

[stable epoch]

try staring the game as admin sometimes works

[sinful sun]

how do you do that on steam

[autumn marsh]

so when you click start on steam nothing happens?

or is the game just gone

[merry jungle]

It's gone

Nevermind

[obsidian owl]

ok, after few minutes "start" appeared

try wait for it guys 😄

[sinful sun]

games running on an actual potato

[autumn marsh]

odd that it just disappears tho

like literally from the steam library?

[sinful sun]

what do you mean

[cobalt solar]

you mean this one?

dang wth

[merry jungle]

Yes, but it came back. it took longer than usual

[sinful sun]

yeah cant log in

theres no start

[cobalt solar]

lemme inform the devs

[soft topaz]

I had to redo it, but I got in via steam

[obsidian owl]

I waited a few minutes and suddenly it appeared

[sinful sun]

oh

[autumn marsh]

oh now its gone for me too

[merry jungle]

I had to wait like 5-10 mins

[sinful sun]

you are right it came back

after like 30 mins

[obsidian owl]

hihi

[cobalt solar]

oof i have the START in 5min

[neon needle]

It's a known glitch that happened back in S1 too sometimes. XD

[serene linden]

Gg server finally dieing

Is that why ping spiked so much

[slim vale]

So it's not just me.... Oh thank god

[narrow tusk]

hi

how do we turn skill graphics off

cuz i can only get it to minimal ;-;

[neon needle]

how do so many people click on random links.. XD

[round inlet]

Hello, new player here. No idea what i should be doing, upgrading, spending in game currencies on.
Ive just took the lvl 60 skip and been doing some s2 msq, what else should i do? are there dungeons or bosses i should be doing with the base gear game gave me?

should i be scared about upgrading stuff?? i don't wanna waste currency, upgrade items etc

is that gear

smh my lack of understanding mmo systems stopped when i turned 30

[vestal agate]

I’d finish the s2 msq and then check out the reclaim hub

[round inlet]

should i do s1 msq just to know whatim doing

i did like 2 quests then went to s2

i think

idk

whats that\

oh

i see

[wraith stag]

Shop TLDR

• For the Season Store you can buy everything if you AFK farm or are active enough, priority should go to the Season 2 Advanced Material Select so you can get Imagines, after that I'd get Luno then whatever.

• Friendship Shop get all the Red Orbs, this resets weekly.

• Honor Coin - You can honestly let everything you don't need immediately go to the "Reclaim Hub" where you can buy it later with a different currency, since you are new make sure you get everything from the Reclaim Hub.

• Reputation Store - Will Wish Coin >>> Other, go to this by opening the map and selecting Asteria Plains / Bahamer, it will be at the bottom right

• Guild Store - Focus Potions > 80 chests > Other refine materials ( Mech shards )

• Don't buy anything from the Orb Store unless you want to get a Gacha costume / Mount ( bound ) you can buy up to 3 pulls per week

https://www.prydwen.gg/blue-protocol/tools/daily-checklist/ Good daily checklist

[wraith stag]

For upgrading things, you can use Reforge stones to make your gear stronger without worry, it's refunded on dismantle

Refining is good to do as well, if you are an offensive healer then work on the attack nodes and if you are a defensive healer work on the defensive ones.

If you are a Lifebind / Concerto / honestly Smite you should save your red orbs to work on Tina imagine from the Imagine Gacha.

[round inlet]

okay

i wanna be a defensive healer prob idk

[reef holly]

tina is always a good investiment as any healer, except maybe disso

[wraith stag]

based

[reef holly]

smite can run tina too without any prob

[wraith stag]

Lifebind would be my recommendation for a support / defensive type healer, but Smite is fine too but Lifebind is alot better, Concerto is currently not in the best state but will be buffed hard next season.

[wraith stag]

Uh

Outdamaging the lifebind buff is not possible even for whale sm*te

Unless you are with ungeared or bad players

Sm*te is more of a raid class anyway so it's fine

But for M20 99.99% of the runs are with lifebind

3% Crit / Haste / Luck / Mastery / Vers ( For some classes this is bigger than an ocean weapon )

400 STR AGI INT 800 armor

and perma trigger lifewave

lifebind buffs are stronger than concerto for many classes

impossible to say, varies greatly depending on the class and how they use the stats as well as your pre-existing stats

[neon needle]

why are we censoring smite? :p

[wraith stag]

sorry i don't say slurs

[wraith stag]

its an inside joke

[neon needle]

rude D:

[wraith stag]

Even taking Haku who is maxed out with T5 imagines and oceans

I've seen him do up to 700k in raid too

but the problem is

dps do alot more atm

and if u have 3 good dps

lifebind buffing them + the tina buff that lifebinds always have

will just outdo it

[reef holly]

Life bind is pretty low investment, I main smite but I change to LB when the party needs it. Both of best worlds :p

[wraith stag]

based

actually based LMAO

personally i dont mind running with smite, but if they dont take tina it griefs me so much while also making it less fun to play in general

and the other problem is f2p lifebinds have t3 heading on t4 tina

if smite didnt focus on that its going to be t0 and thats just so much worse

is 41k considered endgame

i thought we have f2ps' at almost 43k

@neon needle quick i need u for a point of reference whats ur rating!

and do u have raid 6 piece

[reef holly]

Well I can't talk about other smites, but I always tun tina t3 when partying, and maybe switch to MS on Stimens during mobing floors haha

[wraith stag]

lio is actually peak

[reef holly]

I was LB on s1 tho, so tina was already on good shape

[wraith stag]

this is how so many people think these days

they griefing party

[reef holly]

Well, I play with friends and I want them to do massive dmg, so tina it is xd

[wraith stag]

can i be ur friend

[reef holly]

https://tenor.com/view/group-hug-gif-9686667

[wraith stag]

[neon needle]

? My AS?

[wraith stag]

[neon needle]

no raid gear equipped

[wraith stag]

40k no raid gear is actually

rly good LOL

wtf

with raid gear i think ur the same as me?

or slightly under

or i could be misremembering how much raid gives

6k actually HAHAHA yeah

[neon needle]

I need to look and see which raid pieces I can get ... I have 1.. enough for 2-3.

I don't have any G7's yet.. all G5 .. lazy

I only do WBC + dailies so.

[wraith stag]

thats why i considered u 40k

that 1k is just

"too lazy to g7"

[neon needle]

don't have Slumber tree either. XD lol

[wraith stag]

o that doesnt give any rating

unless inside slumber

[neon needle]

dunno

[wraith stag]

so im about 1k ahead but thats raid gear

[neon needle]

I should unlaze and update my trees [all 4 of them] + do slumber this weekend x-x

[wraith stag]

difference is basically just gear and emblem

25k vs 26k
5k vs 6k

arrow

im G7 all including def

oh and one g10

maybe ur missing the g10

that explains it!

[rough gyro]

Does 2nd slumber tree add to AS?

[wraith stag]

Only inside slumberdream

otherwise no

If you go inside and check, you will have over 1k more, if you are outside it's considered off so it doesn't add any AS at all

[rough gyro]

Also anyone test if same factors on base and 2nd trees work in rogue event?

[wraith stag]

Someone did and reported it didn't work

[rough gyro]

Ty

[wraith stag]

They were trying with a skill that gains +1 stack however

[rough gyro]

Ok have to redo tree then

[wraith stag]

And it's possible the game is just coded to not be able to go past +1

[rough gyro]

Hmmm

Ok so maybe more testing needed

Hmm maybe 1 way to test is if dupe factors add AS inside event

[wraith stag]

I'd test the damage instead of AS

It probably does add AS

[rough gyro]

But if it didn’t on a stat related factor, then can somewhat have evidence it doesn’t stack

[wraith stag]

Ehh?

If it's a stat related one EX: AGI

Just check your AGI before and after

AS wouldn't have anything to do with it o-o

[rough gyro]

Stat = AS but you have a fair pt 😉

[keen shell]

Was anything gameplay related announced for S3 on the livestream?

[rough gyro]

Or wait maybe stats doesn’t. Ie does taking a atk pot give AS?

[round inlet]

the amount of menus and things to claim is breaking my brain

😵‍💫

[neon needle]

it's definitely overwhelming

[round inlet]

I just keep finding more lol

[limpid arrow]

What is the maximum power for F2P? 41k?

[main latch]

Around there yeah

[limpid arrow]

thanks

[tardy arch]

Did bidoof drop an overview doc of the s3 livestream?

[wraith stag]

43k

im 41k and 41.8k
buncha friends 42k
few 43k

I'd say 42k avg 43k max

and 40k casual

under that is slack / new player

[deep nacelle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qKRr5z1ur3t2ruac4qBi6XHjbdNmyCBjG-Y8nQALmLE/edit?tab=t.0

only this

[tardy arch]

Tyty

[tardy arch]

Okay well that was underwhelming

[neon needle]

need this for the wings

[keen shell]

the band system is neat

WoW should add that

BDO and FFXIV already has it

"We know we have a content drought issue, we will try to improve via data and play data for both leisure and dungeon contents.” (lol), the release of S3 will be accompanied by a new costume. “地雷系乐队” (Landmine Vibe Band) as a design idea.
" Yoshi P could never

ooh

sick!

um

What vtuber was it for the collab?

So I can follow them on bilibili

[neon needle]

I don't care about the band system either way.

the Anime island looks interesting [minigames?]

[keen shell]

nvm found her

[tardy arch]

Shangri-La Frontier collab was confirmed on BPSR’s twitter

[tardy arch]

Wish it was dyeable though

[neon needle]

it might be

[glacial shell]

how long is S2 ?

[tiny zodiac]

Likely another 1½ months?

Maybe longer

[glacial shell]

I see

[neon needle]

S2 is through June on Global

like mid-June, iirc

[tiny zodiac]

So about 2+ more months

CN is in the mindset of having global catch up to CN servers though so our S2 might be a bit shorter?

[wraith stag]

Another 80~ days

It's closer to 3 months

[wraith stag]

u think thats when s2 ends?

explains it

that just stops at 96

[tiny zodiac]

Yeah likely much longer than the timeline of when we get stuff and the likes

[wraith stag]

unfortunately

i wish it ended in a month i hate s2 compared to s3 HAHAHAAH

actually nvm

less time to save

i retract that statement in its entirety

[wind quartz]

no sadly S2 will be 140 days in both CN and global

cn (left) and global (right) both end after day 140, so they didn't do any type of catching up

[tiny zodiac]

That isn't too bad

[manic matrix]

We're likely shaving 1 or 2 weeks off from S2

like we did for S1

[tiny zodiac]

Game will remain something of a backburner then

Which tbf, game was always like this

[vestal agate]

Give me downtime to work on homestead fr

But push the homestead update earlier please

[soft topaz]

We're mostly saving that time because Global isn't getting delayed like China has been

CN was originally meant to get S3 today

[charred widget]

does anyone know if you can play global inside china?

w/o vpn

[deep nacelle]

that looks so long because we only need 4 more week to get all the raids

[wraith stag]

good thing too

more time to save

[tardy arch]

They didn’t announce anything about top up reset on the stream right?

[keen shell]

i just want s2 to be over already

i came too late

https://tenor.com/view/this-is40-debbie-thats-what-he-said-he-said-that-that-is-what-he-said-gif-27557740

[deep nacelle]

the raids are actually nice

in terms of difficulty

[soft topaz]

more like too early

coming at the start of S3 would be nice too, but we're 3 months from that lol

[keen shell]

<<

I mean, I came back too late lol

I am a S1 player

but i had been on hiatus for a large period

i dont have the energy to do any pve

ive been doing lifeskill shit this entire time since coming back

[dawn trail]

nah it's 41 for casuals - 44.5k~ for hardcore

[wraith stag]

i was once like u

but no

the longer s2 the better

[main latch]

please show me a f2p w/44k

I call BS

[wraith stag]

what f2p has 44k o-o

@main latch

is that even possible

[main latch]

I dont think so exxat claiming f2p could have 44.5k

[wraith stag]

ooh, explains it

he also claimed f2p could have t67 muku chief with 40k orbs left over and new players should focus all their lifeskill and luno into refine over imagine

[soft topaz]

well no, that's doubling what he said iirc (he said 18k orbs)

[wraith stag]

if u couldnt tell from t67

[soft topaz]

that said it's like near perfect efficiency and rng from day 1 iirc

[wraith stag]

it was intentionally exaggerated for the meme

but as someone who also had near perfect efficiency and even bought + resold stuff

i have to say extremely unlikely

if not impossible

and even if we say it's extremely unlikely

you shouldn't be giving advice to others off the 0.001% chance

its like saying, i got 4 rorolas in a 10x u guys should go pull her too!!

[wraith stag]

also to clarify for anyone ool he said 18k orbs left over at the end of s1, it's like 50k rn supposedly lol

[dawn trail]

i said i could get t8 muku if i spent all my 35k rose orbs, another guy says they got t5 muku and t4 gold imagine

[wraith stag]

and he said he did that while not selling any lifeskills on market

[dawn trail]

quite the same thing

[wraith stag]

I call that borderline impossible and even if it's extremely rare of a chance and he somehow hit the 0.01% jackpot its just stupid to give advice based off that

[dawn trail]

and i have pretty avg rng imo

[main latch]

I mean he showed f2p could seemingly get 44k with hardcore investment from day 1

[dawn trail]

if you consider 2 will drops total since d1 to be avg

[main latch]

but calling 41k casual is ridiculous, casual f2ps in my guild all sub 40k lol

cause most of them arent day 1 players

[dawn trail]

i'd say 41k is casual cuz i've seen alt accounts made in late nov~ s1 to be 41.5k

[wraith stag]

showed or said?

[main latch]

showed in DMs seemed legit to me

[soft topaz]

Alts of day 1 peeps don’t really equal to casual mains though, surely?

[wraith stag]

if he showed top up page the problem is apparently there was beta + top up reset, so i don't personally buy any top up page "proof"

[dawn trail]

they made their char late nov

[main latch]

alts dont really tend to invest in non-progression items much

you cant use that as example lol

[dawn trail]

i never played beta, idk what that is

nor cn

so you mean outfits?

or fashion?

[main latch]

yeah

[dawn trail]

oh ok, i mean i'm not a fashion player either

so might explain why

[soft topaz]

Well that’s the thing, how many casual peeps are calcing every bound orb they get lol

[dawn trail]

i mean this kinda just confirms why my refines are high

[main latch]

for f2p your refines are wayyyyy above avg

[dawn trail]

ya cuz i put all my focus onto refines since d1, whether its a good or bad thing idk

[soft topaz]

Where did the wills come from is my question, since items not like MC mats were dropping aplenty in S1

[dawn trail]

2 from drop, bought 2 from bm for 1.1 and 1.5m, and 2 drop arcane frags

cuz i kill muku chief

[soft topaz]

What did you sell to get the luno? Since you didn’t sell focus

[dawn trail]

class books, reforge stones, crystals

starforge crystals

those were going for like max price 40k~ each in early months

[soft topaz]

Reallly the striking part is you had incredible luck to basically max out a F2P with half the total possible bound orbs still left over

[dawn trail]

even sold the ones for my own class

mech shards were 70-100k too

100k at one point when i think t10 refines got released

even now, its always worth selling new reforge stones whenever its unbound

[soft topaz]

Yeah too bad they drop to min price in a month lol

[dawn trail]

well my plan since the start was orbs for imagines and lunos for progression

so thats kinda why i have so many orbs left

[soft topaz]

But the biggest striking part is we have a sample size of one for this efficiency

How many threads did you not need to buy with orbs?

[wraith stag]

I can say I'm doing orbs for Imagine and Luno for Ocean weapon.
But what I don't like is how Exxat is essentially giving horrible advice in #questions-and-help "New players should focus on Refine and Ignore Imagine"

Then doubling down on it by saying "I did this you could too" in the context of new players, like even if we for a minute assume he's not trolling and did just get extremely lucky, giving advice to others based off extremely good luck is just intentionally being thick headed or trying to do a humble brag.

[dawn trail]

i knew stimen vaults gave a lot of imagine mats and i didn't want to waste orbs on excess orbs so i kinda waited until near end of s1

to finish t5 imagine

[wraith stag]

Like someone can for example, get lucky and pull 4 copies of Muku Chief in a single 10x, they then get T5 Muku extremely easily... at that point you shouldn't even try and recommend others to do the same.

[dawn trail]

^ but i didn't have that kind of luck

and i strongly recommend not to use lunos on will mats

this isn't a troll or rng related or anything

you can consider using lunos on the will itself

[main latch]

the thing is

[dawn trail]

but not the mats

[main latch]

imagines are objectively more impactful

than refines

despite score difference