questions-and-help

[white eagle]

It doesn't redownload everything when there's a patch now?

[wraith stag]

it just started working rly poorly one day

[wraith stag]

happened once or twice

then never again for me

[white eagle]

[spice depot]

nope still does

[white eagle]

Okay, I'll pass

I'll die on the hill called bpsr steam unless they fix that

[umbral lintel]

might be worth it for me to switch. the random lag spikes is annoying even on a H class

[wraith stag]

id rather client bug every now and then vs game itself lagging in raid or dungeon

plays alot smoother for me after

[latent bane]

Hello everyone, I have a question: how can I choose a server in the game? Or is there only one server in the game?

[umbral lintel]

Server is tied to game client. You gotta download the client from different publishers if you want to play on different servers. Theres no cross server progression either.

Let me see if I can summon the bot by mentioning SEA server

Didn’t work 😔

Wait maybe if I say it in lowercase: sea server

[barren veldt]

Pioneering Bureau

SEA Server

If you are looking to play Blue Protocol: Star Resonance iN SEA Region, please check the links below:

SEA Publishers
Taiwan, HK and Macau, - HAOPLAY
Japan - XD
South Korea - CD
SEA - HAOPLAY

[umbral lintel]

There we go

[latent bane]

So does that mean there’s only one server for Europe?
It’s just that when I logged into the game, I was immediately given level 60, and I really don’t want to have to catch up with players who are already highly progressed.

[umbral lintel]

So Europe and the americas share one server: global

So no. You have to start from scratch in a server of veterans. They do give you a lot of stuff to help you catch up though.

[latent bane]

I thought that in this game, like in other mobile games, they open new servers frequently. If there’s only one server for everyone, that’s really disappointing. Are the developers refusing to open a new server? Is there any information about it?

[umbral lintel]

I don’t see why they would open a new server and split the playerbase further lol

And no. There’s no talks of them adding more servers.

[latent bane]

Well, a new server would bring in new players, like me, who want to start from zero with everyone. Then, when the server reaches a certain stage, they could merge it, and so on. Anyway, everyone has their own opinion. Thanks for your help.

[flat heath]

hello, does someone know what sigil or how to identifie wich sigil is for wich armor part?

[umbral lintel]

Read it

[tardy arch]

Just a reminder that this is a seasonal mmo. So basically every 3-4 months, everyone starts “over” again. Ik this isn’t your preferred solution but it makes it easier for new / returning players to jump back on during a fresh season.

Also not sure if this will happen or not but if SEA server struggles with population, maybe they’ll merge with us?

[umbral lintel]

sea servers arent handled by the same companies tho

[barren veldt]

Pioneering Bureau

SEA Server

If you are looking to play Blue Protocol: Star Resonance iN SEA Region, please check the links below:

SEA Publishers
Taiwan, HK and Macau, - HAOPLAY
Japan - XD
South Korea - CD
SEA - HAOPLAY

[tardy arch]

ahh.. welp. I heard they’re not doing so well population wise but hopefully I heard wrong

[flat heath]

Another question, i know they both give a boost, BUT when i use captain it showthe buff meanwhile goblin doesnt show so is it working the goblin buff or not?

[latent rover]

u can try on guild center dummy? check if damage will increase pre use and post use of imagine. It should work thou

[tropic fog]

i dont use GC, but buff could be on left or up from your skillbar

if there is too many its simply not shown yeah in upper one at least

[flat heath]

i have like none buf over thw skill bar while using the goblin that why its weird

[flat heath]

ty i did try that and it does seems it work but hard to tell since goblin does more damage while active

[latent rover]

They should really patch that, kinda sucks that you cant tell if ur buff is still active or not.

[tropic fog]

can try to check with zdps meter to see if buff applied (buffs tab)but again i dont own GC, no idea if it works there

[dapper fjord]

Hello how can I get support from BP for information of my account?

Like I sent the message through the game but Idk if there’s another way to contact them

Has anyone tried to contact them?

Or knows how to

[tropic fog]

https://discord.com/channels/594431022188331008/1405217598609817662 here maybe

[tropic fog]

what shown here

[flat heath]

dahel is that?

o i read it now i dont wotk with that but i does get the feeling is working

tyvm everyone

[mortal vine]

dungeon confirmation window dont have any sound notification, could i have accidentally turned it off?

[white eagle]

It does?

[umbral lintel]

hmm i guess theres only a notification for wbc, raids, and instanced leisure activities

[pastel eagle]

thanks :3

[wraith stag]

"matching as tank will make me find a team faste-"

[little hornet]

3 tanks 2 supports, was it DPS shortage all along

[wraith stag]

IKR

[wraith stag]

LMAO IN MY DEFENSE IM NOT AT MY PC

at family house for the next few days

suffering when i get to the pc

[primal acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[ashen stag]

What level purple crystal does evryone farm at

[little hornet]

we did chests, level 1 room and capri, then straight into boss. used mask at the beginning for +1 crystal

[wispy flax]

any tips to fix missing repair parts?

I got staggered during the pick up animation

and now its gone forever

[pastel eagle]

Try relogging or changing lines

[wispy flax]

nah

pressing line button only give me option to leave the instance

which I did

since I cant proceed to other zone/enter boss room anyway

[white eagle]

Are we only getting one instance of 20 FP per floor now for assisting Stimens?

[tropic fog]

#questions-and-help message

[vague veldt]

should I be upgrading my lvl 80 purple* gear?

[tropic fog]

when you get new gear you can dismanltle purple to get all resources wasted on it in 100% value except embed crystals/sigils and the gear itself

[raw knot]

I have a question about the Slumber rougelike dungeon tree thingy? About how it works, both trees are active or nah? Cuz idk which normal factors to put it there, Moonstrike if you wonder

[little hornet]

both trees are active in the roguelike

[raw knot]

Alr so I have to put some Factors that ain't in my main tree

Much appreciated

[tropic fog]

Does Normal, Celestial, and Phantom Falcon counts as "Beast" in Rhapsody X2? Since its only 2 of 4 Rhapsody Factors usable. Like no one use Wildcall from X3 on Falconry Spec... Whats worse there is 2 obligatory Rhapsody slots in event trees.

There is also nothing that uses Wildcall in talents tree on Falconry

i looked at other classes like SK and BP - all their Rhapsody completely fit...

[grave arch]

hello, i just got the two person mount from the wish and im just wondering how i invite people to ride with me? any tips would be appreciated

[umbral lintel]

Click on their profile. The option is all the way to the right

[oak elm]

Anyone know the dps requirement for M5 serpent boss?

[vague veldt]

Should I bother with crafting Lv.70 yellow raid gear if I'm on Lv.80 purple?

[tardy arch]

The set bonus is nice so it's worth imo

Did the lunar new years event end with 180 tickets? (I believe the last daily quest ended today)

that means mount isn't obtainable?

[honest hound]

they wont be givin more?

[wind quartz]

likely no

[honest hound]

thats it

im so done

[deep nacelle]

NOOO

surely

surely with week reset

[honest hound]

vro

week reset = event over

[wind quartz]

maybe 6 more tomorrow if they do another riddle quest but i doubt there'll be another one

[honest hound]

no

[deep nacelle]

at least you are not alone

[honest hound]

today was the last one

ughhh

[wind quartz]

yeah i know but they were already doing quests before the riddles to 'prepare' the festival

mayeb there'll be one to.. idk clean upLOL jk

[honest hound]

hm

bro

you wish

[scenic grail]

anyone using nvidia shadowplay? does it not really capture BPSR?

[scenic grail]

same , all my free rolls give me mystery toy

[neon needle]

They were way too stingy with the tickets in this event. Really really wanted you to spend to spin in the gacha. :x

give out seals for everything but there's almost nothing to spend seals on.. XD

[manic matrix]

The whole event was centered around the gacha

So no surprises

[balmy sleet]

Well the hairdo and the other accessories are still neat

and you can get them

[manic matrix]

Also free 300 rose orbs

[neon needle]

I got them all through the gacha. No way in hell people are going to get enough tickets to do boo with them in the shop.

[and I only did the gacha because I wanted the outfit badly. :x ]

[balmy sleet]

You definitely get pity with the 20 free pulls

And recycle that you get 100 tickets if its what you dont like

[neon needle]

I only bought the last 7. All the rest + the 4 accessory boxes came from the gacha.. which took me a ridiculous amount of pulls to get the outfit.

[balmy sleet]

We still have 4 days of event

[neon needle]

and not enough tickets incoming to buy anything worth buying

[I don't care about the homestead junk. so the only thing left to buy are the mounts]

In short: pushing people to spend to roll the gacha is an extremely bad idea and not one I want to see again.

Loom of Dreams event was better as you could run the event to get everything in the shop. You didn't have to spend.

[just using Loom as the most recent one I remember offhand. no other events before it have required spending either. so they're trying to incorporate it in events and I don't like it]

[tardy arch]

Ya lol.. welp well there goes the 300 cosmetic points everyone was chasing

luckily I can still enjoy the hair coupon

[soft topaz]

the slumberdream thing is this season's loom it seems

where you play it every week to get the shop cleared

[neon needle]

but it doesn't drop event currency iirc

[soft topaz]

granted it's less an event and moreso a season thing

[pure nacelle]

Loom of Dreams is more paralleled to Slumbervalley

[neon needle]

yeah it has it's own currency

[pure nacelle]

Chinese NY is more paralleled to Halloween / XMas

they only added a gacha on top of it while adding actual eye candy

[tardy arch]

When are we gonna get the anime collab release 🙁

[neon needle]

Loom was an event with a shop that you didn't have to spend on, was the point.

Christmas and Halloween had the outfits separate from the event. And it wasn't a gambling/rng.

[pure nacelle]

• bait pulls to entice spending

Loom = Slumber

but ig so

[neon needle]

Didn't say it wasn't. :p

I just don't like rng gacha being part of events.

[tardy arch]

Agreed the least they could do is have the option to dismantle for meowlux tickets and not restrict it to the new years shop

I can totally see the anime collab being another cosmetic banner event lol

[manic matrix]

It was either going to be a full in-game shop event where accessories, mounts and he costume suit would only be available through different bundles costing real money like we got on Christmas and Halloween

or a gacha system where a few f2p would get some stuff

Nothing would have been good anyway

[neon needle]

I prefer to not have RNG.

I would prefer an event where you can earn enough currency to get at least a good chunk of the shop without spending. But between spending on set items [Halloween/Christmas] or spending for a chance at items? ... Give me the first, please. I spent far more on the New Years event than I did in the Halloween/Christmas events. [which is what they want. but I'm not going to keep doing it.]

[soft topaz]

admittedly, I prefer this over randoming it (since the trade-off tends to be it costs more via random than just buying it outright)

[neon needle]

It 'cost' me $100 to get the New Years outfit, which I didn't get until my 7th 10 pull. [20 free pulls, 50 paid pulls, 5*1500=7500, you get something like 7200 when purchasing the $100 pack on the website due to bonus orbs].

[manic matrix]

That kind of spending is the reason they'll do another gacha event

[neon needle]

like I said, I won't keep doing it. This basically took my money from the current wish [which thankfully I do not like.. ]

[manic matrix]

I hope the CN server also had some backlash from this event so it doesn't happen again

[deep nacelle]

good question

[manic matrix]

It's likely we'll get the outfits next year too anyway

[deep nacelle]

but does anyone know if they got stuck on 180 as well?

[soft topaz]

stuck?

[deep nacelle]

"stuck" not getting anymore currency

[manic matrix]

I think we're supposed to have the same quests so I'd assume yes

[deep nacelle]

because giving 180 while the mount in 188 is kinda ragebaiting

[wraith stag]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[soft topaz]

oh that

yeah that's absurd

[manic matrix]

💀

[soft topaz]

@wraith stag so not to put you on the spot, but I've actually not asked this before so I figured to ask now: you're constantly defending the game from a lot of complaints (a lot of them are kinda funny ngl) given this channel is at times a complaint one, but is there anything about the game you won't defend? Or is everything about the game defensible from your perspective?

[trail bane]

Everything is defensible except for the devs filling the market instead of leaving it to be completely player driven.

[wraith stag]

• Poor balancing
• Poor skill expression
• Full auto classes being fine
• Auto shouldnt work in raid / high masters anyway

[manic matrix]

Devs are not filling the market

where does that come from even

[soft topaz]

ty for genuine response

[deep nacelle]

i think they did at the beginning

[soft topaz]

figured if I had to check Tinny I ought to ask you too lol

[trail bane]

Not saying the entire market

[wraith stag]

[deep nacelle]

remember gk been lowest price?

i was one of those

[trail bane]

Early days of game the skill books would go from 0 in stock to like 9k instantly

[manic matrix]

Well good luck gathering over 1.2M luno when the game just released

[trail bane]

When players couldnt even be generating that many to even sell

[deep nacelle]

just pay XD

[wraith stag]

That was player still

[manic matrix]

We had so much more players in the early days as well as more random boxes that would give tradable books

[wraith stag]

If anything the one thing they may have injected is ocean material

Everything else is player

[deep nacelle]

n the amount of books that appear insta on the trade market couldnt come from players

[soft topaz]

in hindsight the will "injections" might have been the exploit-ish lol

[wraith stag]

That's what CN said

unironically

[trail bane]

Never hasd a sellable or extra ocean material or gold box from unstable or anything.

[wraith stag]

they crashed out hard

LMAO

[soft topaz]

I mean it makes sense

[wraith stag]

I know 3 people who got from unstable

like personally know 3

[soft topaz]

imagine spending the equivalent of $10,000 only to learn accounts were running around with more than you while spending 0

[wraith stag]

[soft topaz]

I know 2, but those 2 only happened in like the last week

[wraith stag]

Oh, add to this bugs and poor in game CS

[manic matrix]

We have no idea how widespread the exploit was realistically

[soft topaz]

so we started wondering if they randomly picked a bunch to get drops the past 1-2 weeks lol

[soft topaz]

Bokura themselves had to admit it with the upcoming CN whale tiers

[wraith stag]

2 of mine was early s1

[soft topaz]

which is the actual whale apology response

[wraith stag]

ye

[manic matrix]

With how sensitive the issue was, devs could tune down how big it was just to comfort the whales

No matter how you look at it, it's not possible to fully trust them after this

[soft topaz]

though if that ends up being CN exclusive then all the global whales got boned lol

[manic matrix]

even if they are acting in good faith

[manic matrix]

I wish I'm next in the drop line

[soft topaz]

though tbh injecting cores makes sense regardless

if you don't then you're basically telling would-be ocean buyers to get fucked lol

[wraith stag]

I used to think they don't inject anything, now i think they inject cores which I'm fine with

[median horizon]

Yeah they should buff moonstrike

[neon needle]

I don't really care for 'consumable' stuff

[wraith stag]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-knife-sharpening-green-goblin-willem-dafoe-gif-20955065

[soft topaz]

at least we finally have wills in stock again in market

the only one missing is flier atm

[wraith stag]

[soft topaz]

||GOONSTRIKE WHALES||

[manic matrix]

500 Celestial Fliers next week due to Stymen reset

[deep nacelle]

i just had a weird hard goat raid

everyone stay in the same square and the mech was done

any info on that?

[main latch]

for which vote?

[deep nacelle]

all of them

i didnt had nvidia on sadly

it was so weird

[main latch]

huh

no idea

[wraith stag]

reported for hax

self admission

[deep nacelle]

this guy knows

but never answered

noted

[wraith stag]

oh thats normal

[neon needle]

I have no idea what any of that means.. ... I should probably do raids soon so I can learn lol

[deep nacelle]

i still not getting it

mabye all players stayed on 1 square while 4 voted?

[neon needle]

I did Capra and the golem one once .. golem one I understood but Capra one made no sense to me.

[manic matrix]

Doesn't hard mode require the same amount of players on each tile of the same side ?

or is that only a nightmare mode thing

[deep nacelle]

hard requires that as well

but i think if everyone stacks on 1 yellow square while 4 member divide on blue it counts?

i should have paid more attention

[soft topaz]

that does work, though I don't think you should ever be in that kind of voting situation

it's how you manage if you don't have evenly divided votes due to people being dead

send one guy over to the losing side

[deep nacelle]

so in this case they sended everyone except the 4 people needed for the mech

[soft topaz]

to clarify, this is the judgement hour mech right

[trail bane]

How do you change which emote wheel the endscreen uses after dungeons?

[umbral lintel]

I think it was t

Or was it Q

[trail bane]

Ah ok it should use whichever was the last wheel you accessed via T i guess

[deep nacelle]

yes

it is good for pubs probably

[soft topaz]

OH

I get it now, they're flipping the votes tl;dr

so everyone but the chosen people go to vote for a loser

while the winner's side each has one per

[soft topaz]

basically this but the other way around

I actually like this one more, it's also death-proofed

[deep nacelle]

probably good when only 5 people have brains

[manic matrix]

Didn't think it would work this way not gonna lie, good to know if I end up running in random lobbies

[soft topaz]

it saves you needing to tell people to go vote for the loser

because no one really needs to change (unless a leader dies)

kind of ingenious ngl

[dim hazel]

Hi im trying to use zdps on win11, but it wont launch. Maybe someone had a similar problem?
just followed the normal setup guide and installed what is needed

[umbral lintel]

Did you install dot net 9 and npcap?

[dim hazel]

yeah both

[umbral lintel]

Try running zdps as admin

[dim hazel]

already tried that as well but just 2 seconds loading cursor then nothing happens

[umbral lintel]

Did you add the program into your firewall’s list of exceptions?

[dim hazel]

i ll try that, disabled it shortly to test it before but didnt seem to work either

[umbral lintel]

Are you currently using a vpn?

[dim hazel]

no

[umbral lintel]

Welp I’m all out of ideas lol. Maybe restarting your computer will help

[dim hazel]

been trying to figure out a few days so happened naturally xD

[dim hazel]

added but yeah nothing still :8

[lilac sparrow]

having issue, when i hold hand i cant walk it stuck D8 but if the other person invite me they can walk.. my keybaord doesnt work in game after hand hold but work on discord

[lyric schooner]

Anyone know if breakthrough removes the sigil attached?

[umbral lintel]

Sigil stays through breakthroughs

[lyric schooner]

Perfect! Thanks

[wet nacelle]

Any good soul (that's bored maybe?) out there willing to carry an M5 run (just x1) ? Doesn't have to be a perfect score please 🙏🏽

*I'll buy you a coffee in return 😆

[wraith stag]

if u can wait til im back from vacation i can help without need for the coffee :P

[wet nacelle]

When are you back ? 😮

[wraith stag]

2 days sadly

[wet nacelle]

Two days !? Easy, I'll shoot you a dm after 2 days

[wraith stag]

okok!

[wet nacelle]

Thanks Legend 👏🏽

[wraith stag]

happy to!

[wet nacelle]

[white eagle]

Check if an instance of ZDPS is running via task manager. End it if there's one then try to run it as admin

[fickle elm]

hi

Failed to retrieve server list.
(thats the first time opened the game)

[wheat elk]

Is 3 still the limit of character creation for a single account on s2? 😔

[neon needle]

Where are you located and what server are you trying to connect to?

[primal marsh]

why would you need more? i mean, besides cute people~

my biggest complaint is cosmetics not being shared across all your characters

ig i got too spoiled by destiny 2 all these years

sadding

[fickle elm]

israel gateway, it didnt show an option to choose any server

[neon needle]

Usually that means you're trying to play on the wrong server.

The error, that is.

I'm not sure what server you should be on, I would assume Global unless it's not available for you... :x

[pastel eagle]

By every game.

I don’t know any recent game where you spend real money on cosmetics and you cant use it on other characters

[neon needle]

Yup.. BPSR stingy. XD

[pastel eagle]

Could be limitations, they’re building everything from scratch

Might come eventually

[wheat elk]

I need 6 slots for creating all 6 different body types..

because I'm bored

[neon needle]

just make a 2nd account

it's not against the rules that I know of

[wheat elk]

I already did, but I'm too lazy switching accounts.

[halcyon idol]

just curious, why / when was the time to resell purchased items on the trade center 90 days now?

it used to be 30 days

[primal acorn]

Because u could still buy and resell after 30 days. 90 ur more likely to use it instead of selling

[halcyon idol]

that doesnt even make any sense lol the whole purpose of buying to resell is making a profit

the 30 day repost "cooldown" already made that more of a challenge but 90 days is just ridiculous 💀

[keen shell]

submit it in the feedback

[keen shell]

cosmetics isnt shared on Destiny 2 lol

I WISH IT WAS

If I bought a cosmetic on my Titan, the Warlock and Hunter equivalent should unlock too. This not being a thing is literally why I feel STUCK on Titan

Because I spent too much on the cosmetics to just swap

[primal marsh]

true

[keen shell]

Otherwise I'd be playing Lock

One of the thousand reasons I quit the game smh

The armor 3.0 changes were the last straw for me

[primal marsh]

i just played it religiously since Osiris, until like a year & half ago, ik some people who still play, & they say there isnt really much to do, they only do dungeons & raids

so i'm just so used to it

[keen shell]

Well, if Marathon does well, gg D2 lmao

[primal marsh]

like, still silly you cant share cosmetics

[wraith stag]

The developers said they intended the trade hall to be purchase for player use, not purchase for reselling.
I personally hate this change because I was big on the buy and resell :/

[primal marsh]

reallyfunny

[keen shell]

still no pets

oof

maybe in Day 365

[wraith stag]

XD

[keen shell]

You can't be an mmorpg and NOT have pets

[wraith stag]

[keen shell]

Even PSO2 have pets.....kinda

those "ghost" who follow you around

[wraith stag]

You probably

should not have worded it like this at all

They are trying to prevent reselling

You should have instead been like

what if i buy something bymistake

LOL

imma upvote it anyway but

not gonna be hopeful

[pure nacelle]

there's no trinity in raids is there

or am i bonkers

[soft topaz]

I don't recall it, but if not . . . I wouldn't mind taking that buff if we had that party lol.

actually it might kind of be necessary in that case, that's 2-4 dps you're forced to cut out depending (and presumably only works for 20)

[halcyon idol]

lets be real they dont read those anyway so many posts ive seen in there people suggesting / complaining about the same things since launch

[wraith stag]

I think they read it

I've seen them address some things as well

[halcyon idol]

doubt that would make any difference either

[sullen bobcat]

they've addressed the most common complaints

and addressed a lot of stuff I didn't see anyone complaining about

[tender edge]

does this reset when a new banner comes out?

[primal acorn]

There's not. But OP is right only 2 tanks are needed

[soft topaz]

fashion no

[sullen bobcat]

no

[soft topaz]

it carries to the new one

[tender edge]

ty!

[soft topaz]

only imagine banner stays to its own season so far

[pure nacelle]

yeah, i do think that requiring 4 tanks in a raid would heavily raise complexity

so the only 2 solutions is to require 4 tanks by mechanics

or by buffing hp to require 4 tanks for buff

[primal acorn]

The problem with more than 2 is the aggro pulling

[soft topaz]

also kind of inherently gimp the damage no?

you're forcing a tank to take a spot that otherwise goes to a dps

[pure nacelle]

yes, so you'd compensate with a 100% dps buff

or something really stupid and dumb

the third solution is to just promote multiclassing

[primal acorn]

The 100% DPS buff by having 2 more tanks is a nerf of 50% dps unless whales are in your party

[pure nacelle]

also requiring 4 tanks and keeping raids to 12min

is also a big problem

[soft topaz]

in a way they would HAVE to give that 25% dungeon trinity buff in that case lol

[pure nacelle]

design raids for 10-12; and raids for 18-20

[primal acorn]

12man for nightmare golem might be a problem to begin with

Since u need all 4 devices

[soft topaz]

they'd have to rebalance golem for sure

[primal acorn]

Nah just do 20 man for nm golem, ez

[pure nacelle]

i would say to do 2 10 mans and 1 20man

[soft topaz]

also the thing is you can't really demand trinity for a 12 man

[pure nacelle]

but the nightmare to get it done

[soft topaz]

unless you turn 12 into 10

[primal acorn]

Raids are designed around comp 12 or comp 20

A 10man would be weird

[soft topaz]

so they'd have to re-design the raid entirely

[pure nacelle]

a 10 man is only weird bc its designed around 12comp

but if u just pretend its 2 teams

i mean

its not that weird

[soft topaz]

right but that dps buff prob isn't worth losing 2 dps in that case

[primal acorn]

Exactly, the extra DMG tho from just 2 extra DPS is extremely needed for higher difficulties

[soft topaz]

and in 20-man it's def not offsetting the damage loss lol

[primal acorn]

A 25% on each in a 12 man would be 8x25=200 which is the same as just 2 more dps anyways. Unless they're undergeared

But let's be real they'd probably lower the buff to 10% to even it out

[pure nacelle]

pause am i being misunderstood

[soft topaz]

guess it depends on which school you subscribe to, whether 12 man or 20 man is harder

[pure nacelle]

i wasnt talking about damage buff when i brought up 10man and 20 man raids

[primal acorn]

Are u not talking about the Trinity of a 25% DMG buff?

[soft topaz]

nah this is a separate thing, switching to 10 man is an issue of raid design changes rather than the players needing to adjust

[pure nacelle]

nope

[primal acorn]

That's what we were on about 💀

[pure nacelle]

ic

[soft topaz]

I thought that was the discussion from feedback lol

[pure nacelle]

yeah

[primal acorn]

The feedback discussion is something about Trinity buff and only 2 tanks are needed in raids

[pure nacelle]

idk i think the idea of balancing for 4 tank parties requires raid design changes, or subclassing viability

[primal acorn]

It's unfair blah blah blah

[soft topaz]

right, which would be kinda weird because injecting 2 more tanks into a raid designed around 2 would be super wonky

[primal acorn]

The way they could do this is how lost ark does it. Each team does a side, and they come together for the boss

[pure nacelle]

yeah thats what i enjoy better

probably s3

[primal acorn]

Raids having dungeons inside instead of just big boss battle always seemed better to me tbh

[pure nacelle]

if they keep leveling up difficulty

[soft topaz]

yeah when I thought of raids I thought of the WoW type of raids in the OG days

40 man/25 man type stuff

[pure nacelle]

but honestly they should probably just design these raids around 20man

instead of accomodating 12

[primal acorn]

This would be a pain to get for raids with the low pop we have

[soft topaz]

but admittedly these days wow raid is more like bpsr dungeons

if the raid ended with 1 boss

[primal acorn]

It's technically still designed for 20 anyways, it's just HP scaled diff

[soft topaz]

no yeah I get it, was more thinking about the old raids that had more than 10-12 people that had multiple bosses in an instance

[primal acorn]

If you go from 12 to 20 ur only adding 2 healers and the rest DPS anyways

[pure nacelle]

mechs arent exactly designed well enough to take advantage of a larger group of people

[soft topaz]

but that's also kind of anti-casual, since pushers in wow's case did not finish in a day lol

[pure nacelle]

out of a group of 20

how many do you think should participate in mechs

i would say 6-8 is probably a fair number

[primal acorn]

With golem it is, 4 take devices, rest go and kill flower, in caprahorn it's just split up and then take ur vote tile

Mech on the other hand is iffy

[soft topaz]

robot is even simpler, the literal only real split is the mech which needs 2 people (MAYBE 4 if that's somehow more coordinated)

[primal acorn]

True, 1 tank for boss 1 tank for sword

[pure nacelle]

i think it just comes down to bpsr raid difficulty and it really isnt designed to be demanding nor tight on restraints

[soft topaz]

that said probably better if they left the robot phase 1 design behind, 1 guy solo tanking while everyone else goes beat on the sword is kinda . . . eh

[pure nacelle]

so complaining for rigidness kinda

[soft topaz]

yeah bpsr's ultimately meant to allow casuals to hit all content

making the mechs more complicated probably invites too many complaints for Bokura to deem it worth the change

[pure nacelle]

just wished multiclassing wasn't so expensive

or rather the bar to multiclassing wasnt as high as it is

if i wanted to play a tank, id be locked into wk/tank every gear cycle until towards the end

[primal acorn]

If u play vanguard it's easy to multi class to tank
If you play healer it's easy to multi class to frost mage
If you play storm/archer well ur screwed 😂

[pure nacelle]

yeah

lf agi supp / agi tank

all 3 stat identities should have tank/dps/supp variants

[primal acorn]

It does make sense for the role it does

[solid vault]

Does anyone know if this is a bug or not, I cannot trigger Ruthless Cabbage's and Goblin Trickster's passive with t5 sgk, isnt t5 sgk suppose to trigger ALL plain imagines passive luck effect?

[pure nacelle]

yeah...

[pure nacelle]

no

[primal acorn]

Only S1 imagines work

[pure nacelle]

plain means

asteria plains

as in S1

[solid vault]

bruh

[pure nacelle]

S2 imagines are named Highland

[primal acorn]

Bruh, read

[pure nacelle]

as in

bahamar highland

no he has a point, slight issue with clarity

[primal acorn]

They fixed it tho in the description

[pure nacelle]

plains can be taken as a mistranslation meaning purple/common

[primal acorn]

If plains means purple then sky means blue

[soft topaz]

the fact that it was a problem enough that they had to give 12k orbs as compensation to people who bought sgk5

[solid vault]

oh plain as in terrain, I thought it meant plain as in like... that shit is plain, boring etc, so lower quality

[pure nacelle]

yeah

thats what im saying

easy to mistake as a misTL

[soft topaz]

that said it would be a nice way to keep SGK relevant for S3 in expanding the T5 effect to all purple luck passives

[primal acorn]

12k? I thought it was 17k?

[soft topaz]

though as is it's not just purples, BL's passive is also included

they could just say asteria plain and fix it for good

[soft topaz]

I wasn't there to witness it admittedly, the number I saw by telephone was 12k

it might have been 17k

[pure nacelle]

errrm, bee isnt part of asteria plains

[soft topaz]

I'd say season 1 but that might be even more confusing

[pure nacelle]

its part of the underground

acktually

[primal acorn]

It should just say s1

[solid vault]

Lizardman hunter aint either

[soft topaz]

wait, neither is lizard lol

[solid vault]

yeah

[soft topaz]

it's all over the place since BL is included and it's a gold

[primal acorn]

They could just put the names of the ones it includes

[solid vault]

wait, it triggers BL's passive as well?

[primal acorn]

Simplify everything

[soft topaz]

ya

[solid vault]

omfg... time to get that as well then

[soft topaz]

that's why you see SGK users also unlock BL

[primal acorn]

GK users are crying

We need GK 5 sgk 5 and then everything else...

[sullen bobcat]

you want people to read MORE text??

[soft topaz]

megalodon WKs get GK/SGK/BL5 for that reason lol

[solid vault]

...and ofc it uses the same mats as tina

[primal acorn]

Nah I want them to give us a free pass with just needing gk5 to trigger an imagine equal to gk's tier

Also on a side note where tf is this collab they boasted about 3 months ago?

[solid vault]

what collab?

[soft topaz]

they said a collab is coming up

[sullen bobcat]

s3 surely

[solid vault]

ah

[sullen bobcat]

it was a while ago

[primal acorn]

Coming up=soon 🙄

[solid vault]

wouldn't that just make sgk useless then?

[sullen bobcat]

"guys s3 will save the game trust"

[primal acorn]

No, it just means that GK users aren't getting fucked

By needing both gk and sgk

And then all the other imagines to proc off it as well

[solid vault]

then ppl would just only get gk instead

[sullen bobcat]

I remember people saying the same thing about s2 lmao

[primal acorn]

Only a 30% chance of summoning an sgk to begin with

So u disso users would still use sgk because it's 100% guaranteed

[solid vault]

naahh if it aint 0% it's 50%

50/50 that shit

[sullen bobcat]

50/50

[solid vault]

gamble

[primal acorn]

If it's under .5 it's 0

[solid vault]

just bad coin toss, trust

[primal acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-ride-let-it-ride-diem-gif-13460879079669063039

[solid vault]

just gotta pray harder to RNGesus

[primal acorn]

I just sacrifice the souls of my victims to lootcifer

[solid vault]

man... need to get BL and GK...

[primal acorn]

Tf u need GK for?

[solid vault]

sgk and gk

disso

[lyric musk]

for crimson illusion thing

can i hasten phase 2 somehow?

how do we get phase 2

[primal acorn]

Phase 2?

[lyric musk]

ya the boss phase

[soft topaz]

Doesn’t Disso keep SGK over GK now alongside Rorola/MS

[solid vault]

ig I could ignore GK

if gk is only usable at t5

[primal acorn]

Roro is bis now iirc

[primal acorn]

Oh just pick up chests, kill flamehorn, do event, go boss.

That's it. To get to boss u just do event then hit console

[solid vault]

kinda need it to be t3+ to outperform ms t5

and that will take forever or cost shitton

[lyric musk]

is bane lord thing available on first day of crimson illusion?

[primal acorn]

Always has been

[primal acorn]

Question, are u playing on SEA or global?

[lyric musk]

SEA

[primal acorn]

Yeah that sounds about right, ignore everything I've said until now

For faster boss phase go pick up chests.

[solid vault]

t5 gk + roro??? and not sgk t5, what?

[primal acorn]

🤷🏻‍♂️ probably because of versatility

[solid vault]

ah

[primal acorn]

But honestly id still take sgk just because AOE is always nice

[soft topaz]

Yeah for single target I reckon

You drop Rorola for SGK again for aoe in the rec

[solid vault]

I'll just stick with sgk + ms i guess

and try to get bl t0

[lyric musk]

this phase 2?

[primal acorn]

Yes that is phase 2

[wraith stag]

https://gm.qq.com/m/m202412/news_detail.shtml?newsid=18745245

Season 2 Extended to March 19

Food Buff 500 STR AGI INT

LMFAOOOOOO

HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAA

[lyric musk]

that's for

global?

:?

or sea

global right

[wraith stag]

@quaint ermine

REIN

[wraith stag]

cn

REINNNAOSIDFHASOGFIH

[wraith stag]

bro i think they just killed us

[umbral lintel]

link doesnt lead me any where

it leads to only the front page

[soft topaz]

yeah it sends me to the CNY/LNY page

[wraith stag]

weird uhh

wonder if its cause im mobile

[umbral lintel]

...

game is dead

[wraith stag]

yeah on pc it sent me here

[wraith stag]

LOL

[umbral lintel]

365 day cooldown after buying items from the trade center. items are automatically bound after purchase as well

what the fuck is this

[wraith stag]

"we really dont want u reselling items"

[soft topaz]

wait what, 365 cooldown and auto-bound? huh?

[wraith stag]

https://gm.qq.com/web202503/news-detail.html?newsid=18745245

[soft topaz]

why have both

[wraith stag]

does this work

[halcyon idol]

wdym

[wraith stag]

90 day trade -> 365 day trade

[halcyon idol]

wait what???

[soft topaz]

yeah it does work, ok yeah 6 day extension

less than the 11 day extension they gave s1 to s2, but eh

[wraith stag]

note to self linking from mobile bugs out on pc

[halcyon idol]

https://tenor.com/view/zanguetsu-gif-2469357654701232958

[wraith stag]

LOL IM SORRY

[soft topaz]

Bokura must REALLY think scalping's a problem

if they're going this extreme to basically off re-selling

[wraith stag]

YEAH THIS IS HORRIBLE LMAO

super duper against that change

[soft topaz]

though wtf, for 6 days CN gets 1200 dreamdust?

that's a free weapon

skin

[umbral lintel]

after the next update for cn, the 365 day cd for trades are only during season 2

once s3 starts, all items are bound upon purchase

[soft topaz]

oh jfc

so they literally just off re-selling outright

okay yeah now I get it, wow they're just nuking it altogether

[umbral lintel]

yeah reseller market is dead

[soft topaz]

literally come S3

[wraith stag]

there was one scalper on CN who made like

10m luno

in a day

https://b23.tv/s16idQR

while having alot of stuff left

CN did have a scalper problem

but this is not the way to go

seems lazy like

"we cant fix it so we will just ban it"

there was also this one dude who had like 300m luno across tons of accounts

and found a loophole to rmt so i technically guess i see why they did this but like

:/

lazy... basically removed the market entirely

still funny

but also really sad

[soft topaz]

it's just for one-time buys now

[quaint ermine]

KITHI

[soft topaz]

and for buying stuff you can't easily get elsewhere

[median horizon]

this kind of stuff needs to be fixed asap by buffing moonstrike

[tardy arch]

Wait they did what now? No more reselling?

[wraith stag]

WITH THIS SACRED TREASURE I-

[tiny seal]

Aye is the Pillar of Divinity actually supposed to look like this? I thought the textures loaded in wrong and figured it’d load in eventually but it never did

[tiny seal]

The timing of you posting this is insane

[wraith stag]

[lyric musk]

what does "illusion lord" or "dreamchest" in new crimson event (sea) mean

[soft topaz]

In s3 anything you buy off market becomes bound to your account

[rustic temple]

They removed the market flipping ability basically.

You can blame one guy solely for this

1. After the update, the cooldown period for all items in the exchange has been adjusted from 90 days to 365 days. After Season 3 is launched, all items will be trade-bound. ```

[primal marsh]

i didnt even consider it, man, we're people just buying then reselling @ a higher price??

[soft topaz]

apparently a few scalpers were making hideous amounts

[rustic temple]

There was just one guy making like 20k yuan on it.

Doing giga RMT basically

We also had some people in global doing it with shards

[wraith stag]

same guy?

[rustic temple]

Yeah

[wraith stag]

explains it

[rustic temple]

Guy called out others for doing the very same stuff they did

Circle jerking each others RMT abilities

But this main guy had like 3k characters to do it with

[primal marsh]

man, really tired of the few fucking it up for the rest of us, but also tired of the people above just having loop holes then refusing to fix them bc "too hard" cause they didnt account for it, ughh

[primal marsh]

looking

3k characters???

[rustic temple]

Yeah

They would log 100 characters, burn the focus, repeat

[primal marsh]

what good does it even do to have the money spread across like that?

[wraith stag]

https://streamable.com/atnxg3

[rustic temple]

Well, it allows them to control the market + basically RMT the heck outta it

[primal marsh]

sorry, i dont really think of these things, so i tend to be behind a lot of the time, just, w00f

[rustic temple]

Just remember, never underestimate these people they're running datacenter operations like this.

[primal marsh]

yeah

i was gonna say

[rustic temple]

It's a huge thing over there

[primal marsh]

is he running a data center

[rustic temple]

Same with the bitcoin mining centers they got

[primal marsh]

LQRAHH

[wraith stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/330431424224296970/1478995974046224404/opera_e1KgPaQ2Dz.mp4?ex=69aa6dd6&is=69a91c56&hm=4556783ffe5695e469c9bbc35e58d8eb0f7a2b6e8602fabb0bb2f34a959683a6&

thats also 10m worth of stuff sold

and thats not even the dude who was doing rmt

[primal marsh]

Commandon't

[rustic temple]

Anyways, that's the reason.

[pine salmon]

365 days in S2 and then just bound in S3? Not even gonna give us the 10 year cooldown?

[umbral lintel]

they crazy optimistic thinking the game gonna last another year

[primal marsh]

especially after this, like, maybe all those people saying the games dead will get their wishes

[umbral lintel]

idk man. so many ways to go about dealing with the scalper issue and this aint it

[primal marsh]

cutting their nose off to spite their face

[pine salmon]

Feels like the issue isn't necessarily about being able to resell, but the fact that some dude is making 3000 accounts. But they don't know how to deal with the account inflation, so instead they disable reselling

[primal marsh]

reallyfunny

[soft topaz]

@wind quartz you were half right, we got the fox hidden quest (after the new fox region quests are done)

[tropic fog]

so its available now or not?

[rustic temple]

I guess this is it?

[soft topaz]

After this you need to kill it to get the hidden, yeah

[rustic temple]

[tropic fog]

ah i see

[soft topaz]

Yes, if you finished every quest before today, do the quest chain in the Fox region

Then kill a crimson

And you get the last hidden one

[wind quartz]

half?

[wraith stag]

||||

[wind quartz]

the quests gradually unlock so the other one comes tomorrow

[soft topaz]

Oh then yeah you got today right. Fox came out today

[wind quartz]

👌🏼

[little hornet]

not the last one, we get the hidden quest from killing FH tmrw

[soft topaz]

Well the last hidden one as of right now lol, thought flame was also today at first

[little hornet]

fairs

[primal marsh]

im kinda behind, a fox quest? i really need to lock in this weekend & figure out what i'm missing in doing :(

[soft topaz]

spam all the quests you see in the S2 areas, and then if you've not done hidden ones ask poof for the link that covers those

[stiff hollow]

anyone finish this quest? how to do

i killed so many

[soft topaz]

and in fairness, the new quest just came out

[little hornet]

its an elite

[tropic fog]

its elite i think

[soft topaz]

yah you need to kill an elite

[stiff hollow]

o

[median horizon]

I wish i could be like this, imagine the amount of time and dedication in something

I just wallet

[little hornet]

thank you for keeping the game alive sir

[median horizon]

I do my best

But dont expect a lot more, already rorola going to 5 and wp is 160

Im just here waiting something to make iaido more playable

Ping and non balance in classes is killing

[vague veldt]

do I lose anything from changing specs?

[robust leaf]

What is the slumberdream psychoscope for?

[little hornet]

for the slumberdream roguelike event

[robust leaf]

oooh does it do anything outside of the rougelike dungeon?

[little hornet]

nope, it's only active in the roguelike

[tiny zodiac]

Not necessarily, only if you change classes you'll might have to 3:1 books to advance skills again

[vague veldt]

is there like a consumable ticket I need or something?

[umbral lintel]

It requires a conversion potion

[tiny zodiac]

You need something called a hero's radiance

To unlock a class

Then you'll need the conversion potion and use it in tandem with books to swap books 3:1 at the pioneer's bureau

[umbral lintel]

Changing specs is a lot easier than changing classes

[little hornet]

The book conversion is so bad, you might as well wait for the free respec event, which will probably be next season

[trail bane]

Arent specs and glasses the same thing? : D

[manic matrix]

Nope, each classes have 2 specs

[little hornet]

No, 8 classes, each has 2 specs

So oracle has llfebind and smite, stormblade has moonstrike and iado, etcc

[trail bane]

Jesus guys - talk about over your heads >_>

I created an opportunity for humour which is now ruined :{

[little hornet]

yeah no

[trail bane]

I said glasses not classes >_>

[little hornet]

yeah no I get the joke, just that literally no one else but UK uses the word specs, so 99% of ppl would not get the joke

[trail bane]

Hmmmm

Quick google says specsavers is international company :]

11 to 12 countries, including the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and various Nordic countries

Aaaaaanyway , you guys boring im a need some more coffee.

[stark turret]

what is the maximum level of dream-slumber psychoscope?

[soft topaz]

atm 80

season cap eventually goes to 100

[wraith stag]

I've never heard it called specs before in the usa and my entire family wears glasses xD

[serene linden]

Quick question, has anyone been able to get any decent drop at all from veno? im like 2 weeks boss keys worth and it ahsnt dropped a single yellow mat nor anything at all

[serene linden]

only thing it dropped is yellow shard once

did they mess up the drop rate of s1 bosses? LOL

[manic matrix]

Mats wise feels the same for me

However I dropped a Veno yesterday

And I dropped another one like 3 weeks ago or something

S1 I only ever dropped 1 will maximum per character, in S2 I'm at 3 wills on Vanguard and 1 on Frost Mage

[wraith stag]

my nets so bad this took 20 mins to send 3

First is the goonstrike replacement
Second is Haste / Crit

Both are STR

first one is Luck / Mastery but apparently scales on atk speed too

[wraith stag]

this

[soft topaz]

Hmm

Guess we’ll see how classes do soon in S3

[wraith stag]

As long as goonstrike is so weak it's not visble

viable*

I don't care if my classes are only slightly stronger

[little hornet]

goonstrike era coming to an end

[wraith stag]

[quiet dust]

so how does the module filtering system work

[rigid locust]

anyone else had issues with the exchange? I had 2 left and bought 2 , but i only realized i received 1.

the last one in the void forever and now i cant buy anymore

scum game

still dropping $$$

[tropic fog]

whats your current will lvl and whats in your battle imagine backpack

[rigid locust]

4/5 and my imagine backpack is empty

its whatever , i doubt devs will do anything anyways

filed a bug report

[tropic fog]

nothing in mail also?

[rigid locust]

nope

[tropic fog]

did you dismantle one perhaps

whats in system log

well if its a bug they do something about it maybe

[rigid locust]

my system log doesnt show that far back , did some stuff

sadge

[vague veldt]

to craft lv70 raid weapon, I need to get a yellow lv60 drop from the gear dungeons right?

[wraith stag]

I've accidentally dismantled imagines i exchanged and ran into this problem, although mine were purples.

Did you by chance dismantle anything anytime recently

There's an Imagine "Lock" feature so I'd lock things asap

[wraith stag]

what server is on 70 raid

But any legendary 60 should do

Crafted / Fortress drop / Boss drop / random drop

[spice depot]

Yes you need 60 full 100% reforged

[silk bridge]

hi i have a few questions and was woundering if someone was free to coach me in a few details about the game and mechanics?

[atomic spindle]

Why the f did I get so few tickets ? What did I do wrong ? I don't understand ?

[trail bane]

What are you on about - what exactly constitutes "so few"! in that image?

[atomic spindle]

I see people around with the dragon cosplay, I can still not buy it

[trail bane]

Ye i think you can only get one ( for free )

[atomic spindle]

Wait, it was tied to pulls ?

[trail bane]

Ive had 188 and then some

[little hornet]

I got 210 tickets total from this event

[trail bane]

188 + 62

Idk if ive done everything you could do though tbh

[atomic spindle]

how did you get the extra tickets, you every fireworks every day or something ?

[trail bane]

fireworks is good source - but cant remember if it was tickets or tokens

[little hornet]

Tokens

Tickets is only from daily stuff and a few event quest

[neon needle]

I got around 250-300 total [I only bought the profile background and frame thing with tickets]. They expected you to gacha.

I bought the last 7 from shop; I only remember the red/black one being tickets I think the frame was too? .... The rest came from the stupid gacha.

[atomic spindle]

Oh so it was a ptw event

[neon needle]

Yup.

[little hornet]

frame and card are from seals, not tickets

[atomic spindle]

why do I even bother ...

[little hornet]

when is it ever NOT?

[neon needle]

I'll take your word on it because I don't remember :p That makes it worse tbh

[atomic spindle]

The previous event were grindy, but you could get them all ... no ?

[neon needle]

Yes

without $$

[little hornet]

Don't know, new to the game

[neon needle]

I hope they don't do this again. 😐 I don't like p2w in events.

[p2w RNG* no less]

[little hornet]

It's a free game, let them make money the way they want

[neon needle]

The previous events [Halloween/Christmas] had outfit bundles you could buy straight, and weapon skins that you could buy straight.

They already have 2 wish systems that demand $$. It should not be in events.

[atomic spindle]

If they want money, they should make better skins, to begin with

[little hornet]

pure subjectivity

for example, I know at least 3 ppl that absolutely hate the current gacha outfit, while for me, it's probably the best looking one, period

[atomic spindle]

Where in my case, this skin is the best one so far for female characters.

[neon needle]

The current will outfit is terrible. :x

[little hornet]

exactly my point

everyone has different tastes

still not worth the swipe, or the 4.4mil luno

not even close

[neon needle]

This is the first will outfit I've skipped lol. [I did the New Years event instead tbh. That outfit is way better]

[spice depot]

90% of the outfits aren't worth the swipe for an anime game the outfits are very disappointing ngl

[little hornet]

damn, single handedly keeping the game alive

[neon needle]

No, there are people who spend far more than I do lmao

[little hornet]

I know

[neon needle]

I'm just a dolphin compared to the krakens

[little hornet]

I'm just a turtle chilling on the beach

[neon needle]

For female chars, most of the outfits are cute. For the males.. not so much.

[little hornet]

yeah, male outfits? wrong target audience

[atomic spindle]

I dislike most of them, they are using the wrong s word imo

[wraith stag]

Worst*

[neon needle]

Something Kithi and I can agree on, lmao

[tardy arch]

You have the correct amount as f2p and unlucky. Only those who rolled dupes in the gacha would have gotten 188+

I’m in the same boat

[neon needle]

I really want to know who came up with that event idea.. 'let's screw over our f2p players' is such a good look..

15+ items requiring tickets and if you do everything as a f2p you might be able to buy 3 of them? [can't remember if the emotes were tickets or seals... ]

[not including 20 free pulls from gacha and possibly being VERY lucky]

are they trying to kill their own game?

[wraith stag]

If you missed why they did this

tldr

ppl learned how to RMT

some people have 300m+ luno across many accounts

people controlling the market

[neon needle]

so the answer is to punish everyone? XD;

[wraith stag]

people making tens of millions of luno daily

i agree they were lazy with doing this

but also

dont know how else to fix it

is the issue

im against it completely but understand why they did it

[wispy flax]

how to RMT? by wiping the entire stock of specific items then put the goods at max price?

[neon needle]

It's a horrible idea. On top of all the other restrictions.. and they still failed to prevent rmt. lol

[wraith stag]

but to answer the question no they arent trying to kill their game

[wraith stag]

when u have 300m luno u can do that easily

u can even buy all thats listed low

and force max price

[neon needle]

they're going to, if they bump it up that high. no one will want to use the TC except for needed stuff [gear, ls stuff]

[manic matrix]

Can anyone find the source for this ?

[wraith stag]

for the cn server anyway its definitely a net positive

but yeah ppl still found ways to rmt

[manic matrix]

Did they publish a patch somewhere ?

[wraith stag]

ruined it for everyone

[wraith stag]

source

[manic matrix]

oof didn't see it, thank you

[wraith stag]

dwww

[wraith stag]

but ya dont get me wrong

i hate the change

i just understand why they did it

[wispy flax]

u send it twice

[wraith stag]

yaaa lagged

my nets horrible atm LMAO sorry

[neon needle]

It's just stupid. Game is tottering along at this point. We're already so restricted on trading, we don't need more restrictions just because someone in China cheated. XD

[wraith stag]

its starting to happen here too

that vid i linked

is Jan on GLB

already happening here

[wispy flax]

if the trade restriction last whole year

flipping cosmetic will become impossible?

[wraith stag]

https://streamable.com/atnxg3

[neon needle]

Punish the people doing it, not everyone [I don't even use the TC for stuff like that but like.. it's bad enough to be stuck with something for 3 months.. ]

[wispy flax]

like the game might EoS first

[wraith stag]

trade restriction last forever*

but yeah uhh

unless they find a way

[neon needle]

They absolutely can figure out who's doing it, they're just lazy af.

[wraith stag]

to prevent mass alt farming

they will just prevent resell

[wispy flax]

yea if I got stuff I dont need, I sell it
only buy stuff that I need from auction, no intention of flipping at all

[wraith stag]

easier said than done

when u have thousands of accounts and different ip

[neon needle]

It's not that hard to track funneling. Most other online games manage it. :p

[wraith stag]

large mmorpgs cant stop bots selling gold either

[wraith stag]

not true

its a problem in so many other mmorpgs i played

even big titles

and the issue is its not even funneling

[neon needle]

Trust, I've played at least one game where they were VERY good at tracking it.

[wraith stag]

its controlling the msrket

it doesnt matter if its on 1 account or 10,000 accounts

they intend to sell the luno

[neon needle]

with how restricted the market is in BPSR, there's not much manipulation to be done there.

[wraith stag]

and yet someone made 3k usd

and was bragging everywhere about it

but ya like i said

i hate the change i was a big reseller

but i understand why they did it

most games cant stop mass alt farming

or bots

[neon needle]

Most games don't have the market as clamped down as BPSR does.

[wraith stag]

true

but ppl still found a way

so dumb

[neon needle]

And devs need to figure out how to fix it w/out punishing everyone for a game that's already struggling to keep people :p

I can see why they did it, but it's a lazy way of doing it.

[I don't want BPSR to die.]

[wraith stag]

If they didn't do this CN server would be cooked ppl rly upset about RMT

but uhh

I do hope they find a way to fix it

But I couldn't personally think of a better solution

Doubt they can track and ban thousands of random accounts, they can't even get rid of normal bots

say they ban the bots, ban the main acc they wont care just make another 1000 more

55k luno from mining ore suddenly insane if u make 1000 accounts

they can sell gold again the following day

thats alr 50m

ya this is rly lazy

but i dont know how id fix it either

[neon needle]

Considering you can't trade anything directly and you can't manipulate the conversion rate much.. not sure how you could really RMT anyways. [other than selling the mule/bot accounts but that doesn't do the purchaser any good either unless they make that their main.. XD]

[limpid arrow]

for falconary is better op1: life wave lv 6 or op2: elite strike lv 6 + agility bost lv 6 + str bost lv5?

[pure nacelle]

my solution would just be locking out cheap items

aka starforges, reforges, books, etc

[wraith stag]

this would be worse for me LMAO

[neon needle]

but even with that you can't manipulate much. ... unless you exploit.

[wraith stag]

wdym

oh i just checked the post again

they claim to have

10 billion luno

ok thats significantly worse

their 1000 accounts is 3000 chars

cause 3 per acc

[limpid arrow]

anyone?

[wraith stag]

probably better to test yourself tbh, too specific a question

probably option 2

[limpid arrow]

thanks

[wraith stag]

I'd actually wanna quit if I lost my guaranteed source of income, I get the large majority these days selling...

• Lifeskill stuff
• Starforges
• Reforge Stones esp lvl 2
  Too lazy to book

Reselling impacted me hard enough for me to mostly quit from 30 -> 90 day change.

[gaunt verge]

So i noticed something interesting. When my character is in no clothing (aka wearing my white tank top) my size is what I made it to be (the max value for sizes in character customization), Though whenever I put on any cosmetic option my character basically losses mass and becomes smaller. The chest and arms for sure get smaller.

[wraith stag]

Like I'd argue that's just way significantly worse

[pure nacelle]

i mean you can still sell it

it doesnt affect alting