#questions-and-help

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vestal agate
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Idk, I haven’t really had an issue and I’ve used probably 300 dyes crafting furniture and like another 200 sprays crafting furniture

shut mural
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wich rgapsody thing is best for lifebind

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also what slumber dream thing should i get, either the imagine one or the one that gives an atk boost? i hace choises

keen shell
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1: You're right 2: You're right 3: You can already unlock all classes on the same character 4: This is a bottleneck that I'm tired of hearing for EVERYTHING in life, but you're right 5: What makes it bait and -- oh nvm, I get it. You're right. 6: You can just account bound them, no selling allowed, or have it so crafted items cannot be sold either 7: I have no response, you're likely right. 8: Same as 7. 8: I thought those laws only affected minors

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And you're likely 90% correct in all of this. I'm just so used of having it be an option, and I know even when it's an option, most people aren't using alts outside of hardcore progression players, well in other mmorpgs. I think my main issue is that im gathering, gathering, gathering, and not really crafting ANYTHING. You guys say, just sell all of the stuff on the MB, but then what's the point of the crafting system? Maybe I'm used to having so much of every flask, every potion, every food item, every gem, etc, that it feels odd to not have a hoard of it

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Because if I'm selling gathering items for lunos, who do I look like spending that luno on anything but meowlux tickets?

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And what if I wanna make luno to get meowlux tickets, do I just decide, "fuck you progression?"

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I mean, for example, I got Muku Chief to drop, he was so expensive on the mb, I hate two options, craft Chief, or two, sell it for luno and buy meowlux tickets.

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Obviously i sold that bih

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But I shouldn't choose between that

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Like do you get what I'm saying?

wraith stag
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As you can see, it would be optimal to just maximize focus profits and buy whatever you wanted.

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Gemcrafting for example

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It was extremely bad to actually craft the stuff yourself in comparison

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Just do smelting, sell that, buy gem

keen shell
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So you're saying, gathering is just used to sell the gathering materials? And just buy stuff of whales with said luno obtained?

wraith stag
keen shell
wraith stag
keen shell
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Everyone was running Muku chief

wraith stag
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We didn't run Muku Chief in S1

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that wasn't optimal either

keen shell
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????

astral pivot
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hi hi, small question regarding the nappos. i found a silver one and i attack it but its health isn't changing and basically feels like i am just wasting time for no reason (unless i am doing something wrong) somebody educate me Sad

keen shell
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Since when?

wraith stag
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Day 1 XD

wraith stag
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If you say in world chat it's location others should show up and help you jump it HAHA

astral pivot
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ah

keen shell
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did I get isekai'd into a nonMuku Chief universe or did I just live off misinformation this entire time?

astral pivot
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okie

keen shell
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All the guides specifically said, run Muku Chief + Muku Scout

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So I was farming Muku Chief for the imagines

wraith stag
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You do run Muku Chief + Scout

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You just don't farm Muku Chief

keen shell
wraith stag
umbral lintel
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killing bosses for wills is the biggest bait

keen shell
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this wasn't a narrative even pushed that I knew of until you told me about it the first time around

wraith stag
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I always pushed it!

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But yeah alot of people

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got baited / didn't know

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Same for refine

keen shell
wraith stag
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pepekekhands_hh I know

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I have a friend who

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Has T1 Muku Chief

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then crashed out realizing

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He spent so much on refine to get a very small increase

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he could have gottne T5 Chief instead

keen shell
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So. After all being said, I should stop crafting?

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well, stop focus craftng

wraith stag
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What have you been crafting? ThinkPika

keen shell
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....

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ill show you

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if i go off the top of my head, I've been crafting alchemy buff stuff, food, refinement stones, gems for embeding

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light drops, healing potions

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Light particles

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serums

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burning powder

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clothing dye's

wraith stag
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So random giga

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but uhh, serum is always a big no

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too much RNG and then it's hard to sell lower tier ones

keen shell
wraith stag
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also really bad

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You'd have to calculate the current focus/luno but currently I do mining ore -> sell ore and gemcrafting ( depends on the day )

keen shell
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ive been doing this

wraith stag
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sometimes these go to over 1k ea

wraith stag
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Especially if you wait for the book transfer event in S3

keen shell
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it was the only way i was able to max all of my skills

wraith stag
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I mean

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You don't need to max all your skills

keen shell
wraith stag
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In Season 3 yes

keen shell
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but, how was i gonna increase my gearscore?

deep nacelle
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they should make the key do the book thing

wraith stag
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That's such a huge waste wtf x.x

wraith stag
keen shell
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There was a certain Marksman on youtube that made me think all of this

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the "auto battle" guy

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i never been team auto battle anyway, i only auto battle when im sleeping

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or going for a walk

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it was made out to be as if score was EVERYTHING

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thats all i saw on youtube

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and i dont use social media (outside of Discord), so idk what was being said there

wraith stag
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But like

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Just looking at it should be enough for you to figure it out

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If you get 1000000 HP but 0 damage sure your score is inflated but does it matter?

keen shell
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I mean, yeah, obv

wraith stag
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Working on things that doesn't contribute to your DPS is just a complete waste

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EX: Deter Shot

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and in Wolf case, there's alot you don't need to have lvl 6

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Because it's not even 1% of it's damage...

keen shell
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I was told Deter shot was useful

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on a guide iread

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but you guys informed me that i didnt need to upgrade it

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im already 4 books away from finish it, so imma complete it anyway

wraith stag
keen shell
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plus, i wantd to also max out the falcony stuff

wraith stag
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Here's a good example though

keen shell
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ez pz

wraith stag
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Like

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Rating means nothing if you don't have the right stats :X

keen shell
wraith stag
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It's better to say ignore rating entirely and focus only on DPS stats

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Because you can have similar or higher rating but you didn't minmax

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So you just do alot less

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"Getting rating up" should never be a focus

keen shell
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so should is sell all of this? but you showed a gem that was crafted?

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like should i just keep stuff that can be turned into crafted stuff that can be sold for big money?

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do i not craft food?

wraith stag
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I have no clue I haven't looked into other items but you should probably sell everything, never craft food

keen shell
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bro

wraith stag
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You only craft food / potions on alts

keen shell
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okay

wraith stag
deep nacelle
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sell everyhing from season 1

keen shell
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so since this is my main, just sell everything? But what about that emerald you showed me? what should i be selling?

keen shell
wraith stag
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You could make and sell the gem ya but that's the only thing I see that I wouldn't recommend you to just outright sell

deep nacelle
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you gonna need some luck selling gems now

keen shell
wraith stag
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no

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refining is for whales

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and day 1 players

deep nacelle
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ya but dont waste the ores

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save it for later

wraith stag
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selling ore is one of the most profitable things though

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your main refining income should be from guild 80 chest

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and random boxes

deep nacelle
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the material is the same as season 2

wraith stag
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All other ore should just be sold

keen shell
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see now im confused

wraith stag
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When prices drop this hard then sure, you can work on refine

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Also, funny story

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If you did for some reason want to work on refine still

keen shell
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is the monthly pass worth itthen?

wraith stag
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It's better to sell the ore and buy the refine mats

keen shell
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if im just gonna be on a selling frenzy

wraith stag
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rather than smelting it yourself

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LMAO

deep nacelle
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damn i always thought ore was better

keen shell
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reading that made by brain hurt and i barely made it through a few sentences

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Sadly Pokemon if you REALLY get into comp, force you to do a lot of math

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T.T

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But I also have to do math for irl things, and hours of research and mathematical equations

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so annoying

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nobody wants to then have to do math in games

keen shell
# wraith stag

but i think its because its in dark mode that gives me the headache

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reading things in dark mode screws up my eyes

wraith stag
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LIGHT MODE USER

keen shell
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i dont use light mode haha. Except on my phone

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well, thats a lie

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i use light mode on websites that require "reading"

pure nacelle
# wraith stag

you went the long way in calculating average rates T.T

keen shell
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so bing, wikis, articles, shopping stuff. I'm practically saying i only use dark mode on discord, insta and uh, thats it

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oh, youtube

pure nacelle
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just take the % and multiply it by expected gain; and then sum them up

keen shell
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but yeah, thanks for the help, discussion and advice, catch you guys later

wraith stag
pure nacelle
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yeahh ynderstandable

wraith stag
pure nacelle
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i did yeah

astral mountain
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when this droppin on switch 2

wraith stag
gentle totem
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How do i get this badge plz someone?

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I click Go and it doesn't direct me to any specific event quest

umbral lintel
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you do that by gathering non focus mats

gentle totem
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Oki ty

novel remnant
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that's not the quest that gives the badge. Just do all the purple quests in town and you'll get it.

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if you do want to do that quest to get those recipes, a super easy way to do it passively is to just send an npc from your homestead to gather stuff. Send them on like 200 gathers and you should be good.

novel remnant
gentle totem
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What

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For the event badge?

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Why i gotta do s1 quests

novel remnant
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oh, not s1 purple quests. The event purple quests. I guess it will be hard for you to tell the difference.

gentle totem
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Sadge ill do all event quests

novel remnant
gentle totem
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Ugh i just keep getting those crappy stupid renewal cards

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No mention of badge anywhere

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It's so dumb

umbral lintel
umbral lintel
gentle totem
umbral lintel
gentle totem
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jesus 5 million riddle quests

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kill me

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i hate these pointless time wasting slop quests

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dumbest mmo practice ever

novel remnant
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it's not so bad if you were doing them every day, but doing them all at once is barfarific

gentle totem
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i found the pink guy the quest finally showed up for the badge

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thank you for the help

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i really hate quests

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🫂

novel remnant
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Ee-chan is happy you got the badge!

uncut magnet
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hi what is the dreambloom for wildpack?

novel remnant
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maxroll suggests Mirage Dream (the last one) and that's what i use, but some people say the first one is good too.

umbral lintel
wraith stag
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LOL

novel remnant
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no! don't believe the bird propaganda! the birds are trying to take over! we can't let them win!

wraith stag
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To be fair, season 1. it was all wolf propaganda

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even had people meming "strongest f2p dps"

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for months

novel remnant
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you don't need propaganda for wolves. they are wolves.

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that's like needing propaganda for pizza.

umbral lintel
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hawaiian pizzas are ok but it wouldnt be my first pick lol

soft topaz
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yeah I'll eat it but I'm not like going out of my way to get one

neon needle
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I don't like cooked pineapple so hawaiian pizza is out .. :p

wraith stag
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i rest my case

tired terrace
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what does this mean exactly

umbral lintel
tired terrace
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oh rng

wraith stag
slender folio
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Is level 150 weapon available?

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For frostmage it’s the everfrost scepter

rare moon
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whats the coin with the red thing at the bottom and how do you get it

lost forum
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they give you those coins

rare moon
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is there no f2p way

lost forum
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only buy token from shop

soft topaz
rare moon
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oh

soft topaz
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Buy with unbound orbs for 150 per

lost forum
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yeah if you want those tokens buy battle pass

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but usually you use paid orbs to do summons anyways

rare moon
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is there any other method to get pulls w/o p2wing-

lost forum
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nope

rare moon
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damn

lost forum
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only give aways or redeem every week

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3 per week

soft topaz
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Yeah that’s paid only, no shot they giving those out for free unless it’s an apology thing lol

lost forum
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true

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just talking about the regular coins

dawn trail
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just focus your life skills on mining and smelting every day and prioritize attack refines and you should be good

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the refine cap is pretty low and its like capped at 26 for the next 30 days

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i never focused on my imagines though, just passively got 1 t5 gold imagine by just doing stimen vaults and it was basically free, spend your resources on refines instead

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dont sell or buy mats though, just craft them yourself

wraith stag
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Those are some pretty bad / inefficient tips

wraith stag
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It's quite literally more efficient to sell ore then buy mats if you wanted to work on refine for some reason

trail bane
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Airona - Venobz - Tatta - Inferno ogre 0- these are the imagines that stimens supports - no other drops exist 😄

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Amber of time x 1 billion

dawn trail
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you also lose like 10% from selling

wraith stag
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That had been taken into consideration, albeit it was last month.

deep nacelle
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i can say for certain that ore price barely to none goes down in price even during the end of season 1

wraith stag
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When I can get to PC I will check again with current prices, it had dropped before the current release

deep nacelle
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dunno about smelting does anyone know?

wraith stag
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But I will say I certainly don't ever recommend investing into smelting atm as f2p

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Huge waste, low returns

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high cost

dawn trail
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like these are my current refines, and i never sold an ore, 100% f2p and no monthly pass

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mine and smelt everything myself

deep nacelle
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that looks like day 1 player

dawn trail
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ya i am day 1 player

deep nacelle
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ya but i think the point is to spend luno in other things

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like imagine materials

dawn trail
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those are too expensive, which one are you thinking of? because stimen vaults gives plenty

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i dont ever consider going for npc ones though

trail bane
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refines are gamba right - because aint no one 100% every single refine

deep nacelle
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normally it is 200k

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around that

dawn trail
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yes refines are gamba but i recommend always doing buri + meteorite and save all bound mech shards for weapon only

deep nacelle
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because you will trade the luno for rose orbs

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because buying the material from other players is almost impossible

dawn trail
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the purple mech shards

deep nacelle
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more or less is 5 imagine material for 1m

dawn trail
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like if you been doing stimen vaults since day 1, you would have gotten a t5 imagine like since end of s1

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without buying much

drowsy atlas
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A lot of airona mats

trail bane
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nahhhhh you could get a T5 with S2 material swap system maybe?

dawn trail
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maybe so but idk if its worth it, i personally am just waiting to see s3 imagines first

wraith stag
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Recommending refinements instead is soft inting

drowsy atlas
dawn trail
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just do stimen vaults for mats, its plenty

drowsy atlas
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Getting a t3 human imagine from s2 its almost equal in mats to a t3 s1 (having in count that we have like 30 extra airona mats to convert from stimens on s1) also having in mind that stimen gives almost always s2 mats

dawn trail
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and like mystery store

trail bane
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Stimen is plenty - plenty of mats you dont need xD

wraith stag
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Let me pull up an example

deep nacelle
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if only we could trade 1:1 for any other material from season 1

trail bane
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Has to be in season 1 and not S2 xD

dawn trail
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i mean what kind of players are we talking about? like a player that just joined in s2?

wraith stag
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Yeah, but even if they didn't

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You shouldn't be wasting focus on refine as F2P

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You'd be better off saving for Season 3

dawn trail
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attack refines are cheap especially early on, i wouldn't recommend going for def ones

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they also give out a ton of bound rose orbs which you can use for imagines

solemn bough
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is SGK T5 worth for non-magic dps? especially for mobs?

wraith stag
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It won't get them say, muku chief will either

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How would a new player get over 10m luno for chief

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Or a future imagine

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If they waste it all on refinement

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Plus, I don't think you realize how low refines actually matter

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If you disregard everything else and just assume you take 120/click that's already over 200k per click for almost nothing

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7 Refined ATK

dawn trail
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so you're just talking about the will now and not the mats

wraith stag
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No, I'm talking about progression as a whole

dawn trail
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they did give out 100 for free recently from compensation

wraith stag
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When I say the Imagine I incorporate the will and the materials

dawn trail
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the arcane fragments

wraith stag
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Not just one or the other

dawn trail
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mats are basically free

wraith stag
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1/6 and mats are nothing near free lol

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By that logic, refinement mats are literally free

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Because you get like 130+ per week on average

dawn trail
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no

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it takes longer to level up refines as compared to imagines

wraith stag
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It does not

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That's just completely false

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And refinements also give little to no gain compared to imagines.

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Have you ever tested your damage, refined then tested it again? I have

dawn trail
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nope i never done that

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but i know armor refines do something

wraith stag
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It doesn't actually affect your DPS much at all

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And I don't recommend going for armor refinements as a DPS class especially a new F2P

drowsy atlas
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Is this ragebait though

wraith stag
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I have no clue it might be

drowsy atlas
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The effects of a imagine are far more important than the refines ones

wraith stag
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I don't know who in their right mind would advocate for people hyper investing into refine over imagine

dawn trail
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its not worth spending over 2 mill buying the imagine will and using luno to buy imagine mats

white eagle
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Buy imagine mats

wraith stag
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I... don't think you should be giving out advice especially in a help channel

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No offense

white eagle
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Let the tank do the tanking (def refines)

drowsy atlas
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A new player should focus 100% on getting t3 imagines, yeah you can say that you can get the mats for free (2 tries per day + every 2 weeks on stimen)

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And stimen shouldnt even be counted if youre going for a previous season imagine

dawn trail
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a new player should be getting t5 purple imagines without spending anything at all

drowsy atlas
white eagle
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Amber of Time flashbacks

dawn trail
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yes by using bound rose orbs/stimens and not lunos

wraith stag
drowsy atlas
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T3 muku chief its going to do much more damage than 5 level 26 refinement levels on attack

wraith stag
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^^^^^

deep nacelle
white eagle
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Actually.

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Go get Cosmetics

drowsy atlas
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T3 tempest ogre its going to reduce the time on a dungeon by a lot more than level 26 armor refinement

white eagle
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Cosmetics>>>>>> whatever

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Cosmetic is endgame, refines and imagines are temporary

wraith stag
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I'm actually confused what caused Exxat to think refine is actually something F2P and especially new players should actually be investing anything into...

dawn trail
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like idk what kind of new player we are even talking about here

deep nacelle
wraith stag
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It doesn't matter if they are new

drowsy atlas
wraith stag
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Even if they are a day 1 player

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They shouldn't be doing refine over imagine

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LMAO

white eagle
dawn trail
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they gave out so many resources if if you were a day 1 player, i could get a t8 muku chief right now if it actually existed

wraith stag
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Nice whaling

solemn bough
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yh refinement comes def. last if you wanna progress and spend money to powerup

white eagle
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And you can't go rely on Reclaim Hub to get the previous Stimen Vaults rewards

dawn trail
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not even rage baiting

drowsy atlas
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I dont know what game you played then

wraith stag
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New players would actually see this and waste tons

dawn trail
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you're suggesting them to buy wills for 2.2m ok then

white eagle
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Because a new player now, they haven't cleared any Stimen Vaults at all for those missed rewards to go Reclaim Hub (save for the first 5 floors iirc)

dawn trail
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after tax deduction, thats like a whole month of income

wraith stag
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3 weeks but that's nuances

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But again

drowsy atlas
solemn bough
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exxat the point is

wraith stag
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I think you just vastly overestimate refines

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Nobody should be touching it

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It's not worth it for anyone over imagine

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Max one imagine? okay nice, work on Rorola >>> Refine

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Saving for future >>> refine

solemn bough
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sure if you go for refinement lets say you get 10% progress dpswise/statswise but for the same amount the return of images is like 4-10fold

drowsy atlas
dawn trail
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you need like at least t3 rorola to have it better than a purple imagine

drowsy atlas
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T3 rorola = t5 muku chief

dawn trail
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no f2p is gonna get it

drowsy atlas
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xd

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Im f2p

wraith stag
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Not true, you can T3 end of S2 as f2p

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or if u saved in s1

dawn trail
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t3 rorola is harder to get than a t5 muku chief

deep nacelle
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you can pull on rorola so you can get trash gold imagines to get mc

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easier kinda

wraith stag
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But yeah, I'm not saying Rorola is the best investment

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BUT

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its a million times better than refine

drowsy atlas
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I have 3 rorola dupes and can get the 4th one through exchange

wraith stag
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LOL

deep nacelle
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probably not worth

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that is 3 imagines worth

drowsy atlas
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Like you mean mats wise?

deep nacelle
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will

drowsy atlas
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Ah the exchange

deep nacelle
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non human is 100 i think

drowsy atlas
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Yeah not so much xd

deep nacelle
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that is literally half way

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to t5

drowsy atlas
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I have them stored in case of BiS on s3 (doesnt seem so)

soft topaz
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npc imagines cost 2.5x non-npc mats I think?

drowsy atlas
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Same with the rorola dupes to dismantle her or not

soft topaz
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leveling to t4 and t5 is the same mats to max a non-npc to t5 from 0

drowsy atlas
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Cuz half of the mats you already have them from stimen vaults (mats you didnt use)

soft topaz
drowsy atlas
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At 0 yeah not cheap

soft topaz
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but even in removing those mats entirely

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that's only 60 taken out

wraith stag
# dawn trail you're suggesting them to buy wills for 2.2m ok then

Let's look at how far 2.2m would get you on refine.

120 mats, call it 1800 luno ea
5 buri, call it 7500 luno ea
3 other shard, call it 7000 luno ea

220000 + 40000 + 20000 give or take, also assumes you have the silver mech shard.
That's still 280k luno per click while still having a chance to fail, if you had to buy the silver mech shards add another 63k per

In no world is refinement even slightly a good idea to focus on as F2P, you could get a T5 Imagine instead while STILL having good refinements because of the 130~ free per week :/

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It's significantly better to "spend 2,2m on wills" or even save for S3 over trying to spend luno on refine for near no return

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7 attack per refine omg so much ( we have like 4000 atk )_

dawn trail
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wait why 120 mats

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120 mats is like weapon only at level 20+

soft topaz
wraith stag
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I actually have arefinement cost simulator too

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one sec

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let me show you the problem lmao

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1-20 would cost

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60 lvl 1 / 100 lvl 2 / 1300 metals / 60+ buri

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You would only get 120 refined ATK from that

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Just the metals is over 2.3m

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Add the buri and that makes it almost 3m

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And that assumes you get the starforged yourself

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and don't get unlucky failing

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We have 4000 ATK

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You want to spend over 3m luno for 120 refined ATK

drowsy atlas
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Also, kithi you said is better to mine and sell the ores and then buying the mats?

wraith stag
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Not even 5% ATK

drowsy atlas
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🤔

drowsy atlas
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Have the math? Im already done with my imagines

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Only thing left for me is refinement

dawn trail
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you're also assuming you will never loot a single will or get anything from the 2-4 wish coins weekly

drowsy atlas
wraith stag
# wraith stag

Yup up here, was last month but unless prices went CRAZY it should be the same

#

there's also the uhhh

drowsy atlas
wraith stag
#

You don't run bosses for the will

#

Want muku Chief? You don't run muku chief

#

You run for the imagine material because it drops quite commonly

drowsy atlas
#

Dismantle and exchange the infernal ogre/brigand leader will

wraith stag
#

or sell it to an alt

#

then buy muku chief

drowsy atlas
wraith stag
#

It only takes 5 imagine material drops before 1 will to make it more efficient

#

It is viable though o-o

#

i did it

drowsy atlas
#

You can only put things at a lower price than currently on market

wraith stag
#

imagine 170

drowsy atlas
#

If its on min price you only can put them on minimal

dawn trail
#

kithi in your chart, you didn't even factor in tax

drowsy atlas
#

Good luck buying yours xd, but yep

wraith stag
soft topaz
#

I feel like I'm underperforming attack, I need to check

wraith stag
dawn trail
#

and you're making the assumption that imagine mats are worth 200k in the first place

wraith stag
#

if you know the trick lol

dawn trail
#

they're worth significantly less than that

wraith stag
#

This guy has to be trolling

wraith stag
dawn trail
#

ok how much do you think its worth?

wraith stag
#

I do it all the time

#

lvl 1 /2 starforges

#

Imagine ( purple and gold )

#

reforge stones when it wont sell

wraith stag
drowsy atlas
#

Explain it with cows though kithi

wraith stag
drowsy atlas
#

What do i sell for max profits

#

That table had many funny numbers

wraith stag
#

I'd have to double check atm I'm just working on my life skill QtDance

#

gemcrafting

#

one level to go

drowsy atlas
#

Making me to actually play with my alt

wraith stag
wraith stag
#

Ive made like 4m luno off this though

#

just imagine

#

50 level 2 starforge crystals

#

unbound

#

actually selling for 28k ea

#

thats 1m5 right there

drowsy atlas
#

No yeah, it makea sense though xd

#

I didnt think of buying 5 secs before they timeout before

dawn trail
#

@wraith stag @drowsy atlas

#

2815/2=1407

#

just using your own math as reference

drowsy atlas
#

Wait

#

In what part he divides by 2?

dawn trail
#

20 focus

#

/2 = 10 focus

wraith stag
dawn trail
#

he also divided by 2

drowsy atlas
#

Where

dawn trail
#

last line 1482

drowsy atlas
#

Ah no

wraith stag
# dawn trail

oh this also assumes 247 not 256 which it does sell for btw

dawn trail
#

sure so 8 more luno then?

drowsy atlas
#

Eh, my english is falling sort here

dawn trail
#

so 1415

deep nacelle
wraith stag
dawn trail
#

sorry i didnt multiply by 1.8

deep nacelle
#

what is the point of that?

wraith stag
#

Things don't sell

#

so you buy it with an alt to make it sell

#

and get the luno on your main

deep nacelle
#

OH

#

never thought of that

wraith stag
deep nacelle
#

so with that you can put at max price

#

holy

dawn trail
#

no you can't

drowsy atlas
#

You cant put somerhing at max price

dawn trail
#

you can only buy lowest price

wraith stag
#

yaa

drowsy atlas
dawn trail
#

as in its forced

drowsy atlas
#

So you need to wait like 5 seconds before it times out to secure you buys the one you listed

deep nacelle
#

holy never know that

#

until now

drowsy atlas
#

What do you sell with your alt then @wraith stag

#

Ores too?

wraith stag
#

alchemy mats

#

sometimes ore

deep nacelle
#

probably food and serum

#

leftovers

wraith stag
#

but its mainly a serum alt

#

yaa

drowsy atlas
#

Nah

#

Fuh you fr

wraith stag
#

LOL

drowsy atlas
#

Actually making me to finally use my alt

#

For cooking & serums

slate isle
#

what drops would you use in illusion dungeons, specifically DoD? I know S1 void stuff was dark drops

wraith stag
#

huh?

trail bane
#

ele resist

shrewd geode
#

Similar to previous events where going a certain class makes event easier. Is there one that makes the slumber dungeon easier?

trail bane
#

I know what you mean - with all of the perks you can pick up but right now no. Who knows with the harder difficulty some metas might emerge if theres a need.

slate isle
trail bane
#

I dont think people really need/use those anymore now

#

If your dying someone isnt doing their job right or your not avoiding a mechanic.

slate isle
#

gotcha, tank friend was asking. I guess the atk boost stuff is better than trying to do ele resist

trail bane
#

I cant say as i know that the dream dungeons have specific elements/dmg types either.
You could get them to ask in one of the tank role channels for a solid answer. They have to pick the role first before the channel will appear.

slate isle
#

Okie dokies, will do! Thank youu

wraith stag
slate isle
#

XDD all good!

wispy flax
#

kinda sad how theres IS req

#

for the mode

shrewd geode
#

Can’t just use random tank class huh

trail bane
#

2 more difficultys coming so get used to it and git gud 😄

shrewd geode
wispy flax
#

ye

#

unlike adept/loom where ur GS doesnt matter as much

#

the IS? u go with lower IS, u get clapped

trail bane
#

Ikr but IS is the whole focus/theme of S2 so it is what it is >_> Dont go with low IS? Make sure factors and dream skills set up well.

wispy flax
#

well the idea was to just use ur off-spec/free hero radiance to cheese the mode

#

but now its no longer viable

#

since u need to commit reforge stones to reach the IS

#

full lv 120 gears are not at 1810 no?

trail bane
#

Sorry are you complaining because you "cant cheese the mode" and were supposed to understand/sympathize?

wispy flax
#

not really

plain valley
#

Are people actually struggling with easy mode surviving??
I only felt pressure after taking multiple life drain curses…

wispy flax
#

u dont hv to sympathize with anyone

gentle totem
#

Just get a healer

umbral lintel
#

go tank. press h. done

#

its not that hard

gentle totem
#

Still gotta use asdw buttons

gentle totem
#

It's also not an event

#

Everyone keeps referring to it as such

#

Get used to the 20+ runs every week

wispy flax
#

nah

#

2k for the rhapsody is all I can afford

shrewd geode
gentle totem
#

Same soup different spoon innit

wispy flax
#

also idk which talent is buggy on HG-EF, theres this one curse that eat 1% HP

but it took 10% out of me /sec instead

gentle totem
#

There's a nourish talent that heals the boss and gives it shield 😂

trail bane
#

I cant bring myself to do it at the moment - energy for the game is just that low i cant face more boring chores that arent the slightest bit fun

shrewd geode
#

Where do you guys find ppp to run with. Queue is so dead

gentle totem
#

Bug protocol

wispy flax
trail bane
#

I like that they are toying with the idea of new things but this one aint it

gentle totem
#

Make a party in world chat by recruiting

#

Queing is dead forever

trail bane
#

recruit mr potato and his friends after 15 mins - then one afk - one leaves just as you are about to enther and the other disconnects. Party disbands now start it all over again.

#

Fun

gentle totem
#

Sounds like you need a break mate

#

From the game

trail bane
#

Yes new things are cool - shame the 5 miillion aoes dont do much dmg so people can ignore it for now

gentle totem
#

It's easy mode just like raids

#

Brute forcing it

#

Wait next week ppl will complain it's too hard

trail bane
#

I want to play the game - i think the game as it is makes it hard for me to play it. Its difficult to do what i want when i want without putting in lots of effort.

gentle totem
#

And thats what mmo is, grinding. This is a soft mmo, ppl either dont like thats it's easy or complain that it's too grindy now

gentle totem
#

Thats mostly the amount of players id assume

#

Hard to find random strays doing stuff youre doing

#

Guilds remove like 90% of that issue

#

Setting times when to do content together during the week
Weekly scheduled content runs etc

#

Interpersonal connections are super time healthy to have

trail bane
#

I can get things done on reset but its the rest of the week for anything else needed

#

feel like wasting lots of time and not gaining very much from said time - the games already a bit low on keeping my attention but i have nothing else right now or on the horizon for that matter xD

gentle totem
#

Like i said group scheduling saves time

#

U meet up when ur available get it done and carry on with life

#

If this is not fun, i wouldn't play it. There's other stuff to do in life too

#

Playing something not fun bcs there's nothing better to play is not the best way to have fun

#

😆

trail bane
#

Raining everyday and cold means outside = no
Limited ability to go do things based on responsibilities so gaming it is.
Dont wanna play cod/arc raiders/Lol kinda games because they stress me out instead of help me relex.
I want a really good mmorpg to settle into for the long run like everyone else but its just not happening.

#

Wish i never fell out of love with ffxiv ages ago , i got this thing where i just cant get back into anything ive played before.

gentle totem
#

I dont think bpsr is a long term mmorpg tbh

#

It's more like a side-game?

#

Idk how long itll even stay alive for the devs dont tell us shi beyond like a few weeks forward ppff

trail bane
#

Ye its a stop gap - i didnt think the gap was gonna be this big. Its definitely not the game i wanted it to be and i can see the "development" isnt gonna change that.

gentle totem
#

It's def not what I thought it'd be too, but ive been enjoying it nontheless

#

Happy to get distracted from life for a bit

#

Until this passes and it's back to irl grind

plain valley
wispy flax
#

cant go in solo lifebind 1200IS

woven oak
#

How do we get the Lanterns Lovebirds title? Didn't see it listed anywhere, but I assume from the lantern festival in some way

gentle totem
#

Wasn't that a title that an alliance of guild leaders, managed to have devs put in the game

#

They held a series of in game mini events and you could get the titles by participating

#

I may be thinking of a different title

woven oak
#

Oh? idk. Saw 2 people walk by with it and was curious

silk wharf
#

do loadouts also work for embedded phantom factors in psychoscope?

gentle totem
#

The psychoscope tree system doesn't work with loadouts

shrewd geode
#

dying isn't the issue for me it just takes so long with no team 😐

lost forum
umbral lintel
wispy flax
#

return to first device at 80% dream value

wraith stag
#

cant u cut that in half

#

by rushing first boss

wispy flax
#

without picking chest?

wraith stag
#

o wait ur talking solo nvm im blind HAHAHA

shrewd geode
wraith stag
#

i would not be very good XD

#

i am nerfed for the next week

shrewd geode
#

i wish they let us run with bots

#

would be so chill

wraith stag
wispy flax
#

I will dual client it if I can, but my characters both on same account

wraith stag
#

LOL

#

HEY I MEAN I CAN COME IF U WANT A FULL AUTO FALCON

umbral lintel
shrewd geode
#

he hiding his party

umbral lintel
#

solo run on shield knight

wispy flax
#

tfw ur rhapsody factor deal 0 dmg

wraith stag
#

shield knights do be like that so id believe it

wheat elk
#

in S2, will they add more than this for Meow Store?

wispy flax
#

we got the austronaut/diver suit that our character is using on intro

wheat elk
#

I almost bought it... Thanks.

wispy flax
#

from poofcake site

wheat elk
#

interesting. not bad.

keen shell
keen shell
#

I left around December I believe

#

I can't remember

#

It was when the first part of the Season pass was ending

wraith stag
#

Exaat was either a troll or a closet whale with t8 muku chief

#

too disconnected

#

to someone who has t5 imagines and ocean yeah refine is amazing

safe cliff
#

I think it's fine to only rely on free bound resources for refines

#

even focus can be sold

wraith stag
#

well said

tiny seal
#

How many episodes is Season 2’s story?

soft topaz
#

4

keen robin
#

How many Slumberdream Crystals are given by the Event Quest? I complete it by accident and I didn't count how many I received and I want to know how far I'm from the 50 Crystals Weekly Cap

safe cliff
#

I think it's 40, thought not entirely sure

soft topaz
#

Yeah 40

#

So if you hit 90 before reset you basically hit weekly cap

keen robin
#

Ok, that means I need to do another 8 runs today

#

Because I'm 74/90

soft topaz
#

think that's right

#

I think when we get weeklies we'll get more too beyond the 50 weekly cap

wind quartz
#

the 50 weekly cap will increase with hardmode (80) and nightmare mode (120)

#

hardmode unlocks in 14 days

soft topaz
#

Store should be pretty clearable over the course of the season without needing to spam to cap I think

wind quartz
#

do we know if this is 800 per normal/hard dungeon or 800 across all six normal/hard dungeons? i'm assuming the latter

velvet ingot
soft topaz
#

It’s by difficulty

velvet ingot
#

When does the Advance BP get added to the website ?

soft topaz
#

Most likely next daily reset

wind quartz
velvet ingot
wind quartz
#

ohh

velvet ingot
#

uhhh xD

wind quartz
#

theyre stealing your money

#

norton recognised it's all a scam

velvet ingot
#

I mean i can't say i am surprised xD

pastel eagle
#

Norton false flags a lot of stuff

velvet ingot
manic matrix
#

It's Norton

#

why would anyone use Norton

lament aurora
#

Does anyone know if you buy 2 monthly cards at the same time do you get the cosmetics for both this and next month

lament aurora
#

Tyty

vivid thunder
#

Will this mission be available when we get the m6+?

#

We also had some mission for m5 on season 1 but im pretty sure it was still available after we got m6

little hornet
#

no, it goes away when we get m6 and 160 gear

#

actually scratch that, it goes away a week before we get those things

wraith stag
#

Right now M5 is buffed, it's alot harder than M6 will be which is kinda the point of the event

#

You can see the event duration here, also note the

#

"All enemies gain massive stat boosts"

tawny bay
#

Anyone else try getting the new BP from site store , it isn’t showing up for me

civic jetty
#

What M5 is the easiest?

wispy flax
#

the illusory/nappo if u can trigger the silver/gold nappo maybe

#

or wraith shrine if someone can bring the boar to nullify the healing from the ghost

civic jetty
#

Thanks, I will try to look for a group then 😄

deep nacelle
#

Just wait for tomorrow full raid set+raid weapon+more dream level

opaque minnow
#

Is it going to be possible to get this trohpy? As far as I can tell we can only get a little each day from commissions now and it won't be possible to get 30k in time?

spice depot
spice depot
#

ooo it's reputation my eyes are failing me thought the focus one rivenlmao

#

idk some people say it is others say it isn't lol just gotta wait and see

opaque minnow
#

Yea, lots it's the rep one, in S1 you could farm the magical creatures for extra rep, but in S2 the only method I've seen is quests (one-time only) or commissions, which is 150 a day max.

#

So far it seems impossible to do as it would take 6months to get 30k from commissions

#

Was hoping I was just missing something important, or are the devs just that smart that they would give us an impossible task?

tropic fog
proud torrent
#

Anyone played this game mode in CN,
What items can you get from the hidden areas of the sluberdream valley?

pulsar basin
#

anyone know why on playbpsr website, i cant top up to get the new dream II pass?

high storm
#

they dont want our money BigSad

pulsar basin
#

i dont wanan spend extra processing fee on steam lol

high storm
#

yee ill hope they add it soon or i just gotta let steam yoink some

austere thicket
#

Is the key for Slumber dungeon even worth?

main latch
#

though curreny gain really low rn

austere thicket
main latch
#

oh

#

dunno

#

didnt find enough info on key

#

guides barely talked about it

austere thicket
little hornet
brave robin
#

I heard that season2 only use sigil instead of gems than do i not need gem in season 2 at all?
Is there anyone who knows?

brave robin
#

Thank you so much

keen shell
keen shell
# velvet ingot uhhh xD

i hate when this happen. I tried to buy something on my JP Amazon account and this happened

umbral lintel
#

Wow people use Norton unironically?

velvet ingot
#

yeah... ?

umbral lintel
#

It’s bad. I would uninstall that. Windows security is fine for 99% of all things

velvet ingot
velvet ingot
umbral lintel
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

keen shell
#

I meant it happens with my bank account LOL

#

oh wait, i didnt realize norton was in that photo

#

i confused NORD and Norton lmao

umbral lintel
#

Norton hasn’t been relevant since the early 2000s imo
At this point, the security suite slows down your computer more than any virus can possibly do lol

keen shell
#

its funny this is the topic, considering i tried to uninstall mcaffee after my sub expired, and i kept getting nonstop pop ups even after uninstalling

#

so now im using the removal tool

#

yes, more software to remove software

little hornet
#

you guys use anti-virus?

keen shell
#

I do a lot of pirating on sketchy websites, i need anti-virus lmao

umbral lintel
#

Windows defender is all I use. Practicing safe internet browsing works better.

little hornet
#

I cut out the defender, alongside most of the bloatware windows got

velvet ingot
#

i love the confidence you guys have in windows

little hornet
#

I don't, I have confidence in not clicking sketchy stuff

umbral lintel
#

I haven’t gotten a virus since I was a kid so it works for me

velvet ingot
little hornet
velvet ingot
keen shell
#

hey guys, i wont be able to keep up with this, i gotta head out soon cause i owe a bloke money. Can we just summarize this and just comment whats the best anti-virus software to use?

#

i gtg

keen shell
#

Then what's the best vpn

little hornet
#

none, never used any, been removing windows defender all my llife, no problemos

velvet ingot
#

I learned at uni that 90% of people don't change their admin credentials on their router access page. So when you go to your aunti's house and connect to her wifi, that's goodbye to all your info

umbral lintel
velvet ingot
#

do you know how many people allow UPnP

little hornet
#

all the actually important stuff is locked behind 2FA

velvet ingot
umbral lintel
#

Unless you want to pay for a dedicated server off site

little hornet
umbral lintel
#

Most important stuff uses an authentication program nowadays

umbral lintel
keen shell
#

what vpn are those?

#

I need any uh, Taiwan and Japan supported vpns

drowsy oyster
#

does anybdoy have that link of banner/skin/bp that shows the period/dates per region

little hornet
velvet ingot
umbral lintel
umbral lintel
keen shell
velvet ingot
#

ohh i don't host

drowsy oyster
umbral lintel
#

I don’t use a vpn so I’m not super knowledgeable on the subject

drowsy oyster
#

but i think there's another one in english with more polished UI

keen shell
drowsy oyster
#

that shows events/bp/banners and you can toggle them per region

keen shell
#

someone said thirty days, and ooh

#

i can get that too brb

#

i have it bookmarked

velvet ingot
keen shell
#

okay, bye bye all, smell you later

drowsy oyster
#

but this is useful too. thanks!

#

but yes it's poofcakes. found it

tardy arch
#

So I finished my raids but never pushed for the masters quest.. Is this the correct amount I should have? i still have yet to get my 2nd raid pc

trail bane
#

Ive got 2nd piece and 48 of those without the masters quest.

tardy arch
#

wait.. what? really

#

I think you completed one of the masters quest since it gives 50 each?

trail bane
#

Masters is 1900 and 2000 and only one gives the item?

#

and im just under it :/

night kindle
#

Does anyone know what the best stats to focus on are for offensive/defensive purposes?
What's better: HP, Armor, resistance?
What's better: Element attack, (main attribute: intellect/endurance/agility), attack speed, etc

wraith stag
#

Maybe you didn't exchange at the store / honor coin

tardy arch
#

I've done exchanges at the store/honor coin

#

the masters quest is 1800 and 1900

trail bane
#

xS

tardy arch
#

bleh Wearona ig I messed up somewhere

trail bane
wraith stag
#

One master quest is 1800

#

then 1900

#

then 2000

tardy arch
#

ahhh.. okay so if that's the case, I should be where eva is except I didn't complete the 1800

civic jetty
#

I'm on 2 piece and 48 with one quest

#

You got everything expect the quests

tardy arch
#

tyty

wraith stag
#

Like, tanks who scale on Armor even offensively ( HG ) would prioritize armor over everything else

trail bane
#

Sounds like they asking about sigils

wraith stag
#

Attack speed sigils?

trail bane
#

I think just in general

night kindle
wraith stag
#

I don't play Dissonance so you'd probably have to ask Yucky #3 or #4 or perhaps in #beat-performer-chat

night kindle
#

is there like a math formula person that does it

wraith stag
#

For Dissonance in specific? Probably

#

For defensive though, assuming you mean Emblem I recommend in general DPS classes to run uhh

#

X2 / X6 / X4

#

Other than that you don't really look to prioritize or invest into defensive stats

night kindle
wraith stag
#

Endurance and HP iirc

night kindle
#

My other thing is like the RNG attribute you get on gear. What do you prio over others

wraith stag
#

You don't want any defensive ones

night kindle
#

hrm

wraith stag
#

For purple stats I don't know enough about Dissonance to tell you, but the answer probably depends on you reaching certain stat goals anyway

#

Like for some classes ATK speed could be a viable / BIS roll but only if they are hitting a certain breakpoint

#

It could also be completely useless

#

if it causes them to over cap

night kindle
#

See I just never understand stats in this game outside of prio luck

#

Everything so obfuscated

trail bane
#

Ngl games talents/stats/skills/imagines quite deep and complicated for a chill game

umbral lintel
#

It’s pretty chill if you don’t care about pushing the latest content asap

obtuse scroll
#

Can someone tell me where to use the Renewal Light Wish coins?

umbral lintel
obtuse scroll
#

dang that was super obvious, ty lmao

proud torrent
#

@wraith stag

#

What items can you get from the hidden areas of the sluberdream valley?

hybrid basalt
#

They didnt fix the web top up missing the new season pass?

umbral lintel
proud torrent
proud torrent
#

oh.

#

guess IMO, its not worth it for me. im not buying that.

umbral lintel
manic matrix
#

Gotta wait for harder difficulties to see if reward scaling makes doing more zones more rewarding

#

if it's more efficient to clear more zones, then keys will be useful

#

No reason to save the pink currency once you've got your G4 rapsody factor though, all the items that can be bought with it are made to be used inside the mode

stark turret
knotty garden
#

how to get these things?

#

what weekly quests?

umbral lintel
knotty garden
#

ahh oh so it's not here yet. aight zanks KannaWave

stark jay
#

guys is it worth to summon here? if so, whats the best will wish for frost mage

umbral lintel
#

But I doubt you’ll get it past t1 by the end of the season. Maybe t2.

stark jay
#

thanks

plain valley
#

Why don’t we get any kinda reward for maxing out our life skills lvls in S2, like we did with reaching max lvls S1?

umbral lintel
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

umbral lintel
final osprey
#

I'm trying to get to the Muku King boss fight but the path is blocked by a wall. Am I missing something?

umbral lintel
vast kraken
#

Are those consumed on use?

umbral lintel
vast kraken
#

Brutal

#

Thank you

final osprey
keen shell
umbral lintel
keen shell
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I thought they were going to replace the banner with S2 imagines, and that I could keep my pity to use towards S2

umbral lintel
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That’s what all gacha games do when they introduce new stuff

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Make a new banner

keen shell
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Genshin doesn't do that

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So, what I mean is

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you have the banner right?

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The banner ends it cycle, and it is replaced with a new banner

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Which then your pity for what you didnt get in the first banner carries over

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Pretty much how the cosmetic banner works in BP

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I thought it'd be the same for the imagine banner

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But they ended up adding a SECOND banner to go with the OG banner

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Rather than to replace the OG banner

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Meaning, the pity I have can only be used on S1 imagines

manic matrix
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Ngl the S1 banner having a timer was very misleading

keen shell
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^^^

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Misleading as fuck dude

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Like I don't normally say something bad about this game, but that really pissed me off

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Like I would have literally saved all of my will coins

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but instead I pulled so I could stack the pity, and then go ape sh*t when S2 banner came, immediately getting Rorola or whatever is prefered on Wildpack

wraith stag
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Technically

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Wolf doesn't want either

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Unless you get it to high refine

keen shell
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Plus, I use Void Ogre for auto battle, so I wanted Rorola to replace Void Ogre

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Note: I use Void Ogre out of personal preference not for any comp. or minmax reason. I use it because its actually helpful in a lot of open world content

wraith stag
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wdym