questions-and-help

[white eagle]

I mean, that's a good point XD

[limber oar]

Teleporting used to be cool

Now every anime mc can do it

[white eagle]

We got wiped due to the laser nappo and rage nappo, but not yet with hunt nappo

[limber oar]

[wraith stag]

G10 / Gear Box / G4 Rhapsody

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[misty frost]

[wraith stag]

[cyan flare]

Hello guys

I have a question how to find a dungeon

It's my first game of this kind so there's a lot's of things that I don't know please help me guys 🙏

And also how to find a good clan to join

[frosty vale]

Hey New Titan!

Wellcome to BPSR o/

The dungeons are here (see my mark):

Note: there are 2 types of dungeons:

Daily Dungeons (portal on the ground)
Normal/Hard/Master Dungeons (First floor)

Normal+Hard+Master 1 can be done with solo/duo (with bot) and with Matchmaking (Party Finder)

Master 2+ for now, can be done with pre-made party

[frosty vale]

You can find here: https://discord.com/channels/594431022188331008/1417407609480413224

also, i suggest you interact to the people here on Discord and join the guild of those you've gotten along with best ^^

[cyan flare]

Thanks a lot for the help you guys 🥰 I really appreciate it

[glacial shell]

how long you use gear and change it to next lvl in S2 ? still every 2 weeks use new gear ? and 4/4 raid set is there diff effect when using from normal raid gear and nm raid gear or just same effect diff stats

[frosty vale]

The next gear (160) It will take a while to arrive, meanwhile, the current gear (set), 140, can be upgraded (to 150) via Gear Breakthrough (in 3d16h)

[frosty vale]

same effect diff stats

[glacial shell]

is the stats carried over to 150 ?

[frosty vale]

They are increased

[glacial shell]

ah i see so you can farm BiS with 140 and still using it for long time ?

[wraith stag]

160 gear is in like 25 days

So it depends on how you define long time

[frosty vale]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[wraith stag]

HAHAHHAA

me after i get ocean weapon

[trail bane]

160 gear is also M6 so i wonder if general pop will be ready for it

[frosty vale]

we*

[wraith stag]

[wraith stag]

Season 2 dungeons are significantly easier than season 1.

[trail bane]

you get it and then realise you cant use it because you need to upgrade it

[wraith stag]

Nah I plan to buy off market slowly

[trail bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ponkehq-monkey-ponke-ponkesol-Vzei5Qb3TJQ1bdEQ8r

must be nice to have other financial obligations covered :[

[wraith stag]

I didn't say I would break F2P

[trail bane]

ye i meant ingame xD

[wraith stag]

I mean what other things are there to buy?

[trail bane]

Refines/Imagine gonna cost me for awhile yet

[wraith stag]

You finish Muku Chief in S1

Ignore refines

[trail bane]

I wish mchief was S1 - still T4

[frosty vale]

i'm almost there 🙂 + 13 weeks 🙂

[trail bane]

now chief 2.2m :[

[wraith stag]

CN just got 100 without buying any a while ago

[glacial shell]

i see thx, it just like in sea change gear every 2 weeks im kinda tired with the RNG grind and barely get gold gear after you get BiS almost 2 week and change ur gear and now im kinda lazy to farm since S2 in next 2 weeks

[wraith stag]

S1 you couldn't F2P M20 without being a tank and getting carried, S2 you can full F2P

[wraith stag]

If you don't like the RNG grind it gets significantly worse in s2

[glacial shell]

why ?

[glacial shell]

can you explain pls ?

[trail bane]

I really enjoyed the beggining of S2 particularly as a iaido >_>

[wraith stag]

In Season 1 drops were biased towards your class

In Season 2 it's entirely random

farming purple stat? goodluck getting through ARMOR and HP drops

And instead of being biased to getting say, crit rolls

now you can get versatility

So on average, and even mathematically

it's alot harder to farm gear in s2

They made it alot harder because it's now craftable with purple stat

That's my headcanon anyway

[glacial shell]

oh damn

[trail bane]

Ms gonna get easier like S1 after the event too

[glacial shell]

you can choose purple stats ?

[wraith stag]

No you can't choose purple stat

But in season 1 any crafted gear didn't have purple stat

now it does

[glacial shell]

oh but its random ?

[wraith stag]

Simply put

In Season 1 you would roll biased purple stats

EX:

Melee damage, ATK speed, ATK %

now you can roll stuff like

Armor

HP

Resistance

as a dps class

[trail bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/justin-lol-spit-take-kC8N6DPOkbqWTxkNTe

[wraith stag]

But then the normal stats ( white stats )

aren't biased to your class anymore either

[trail bane]

Nah 1.5% and Atk stat like too rare :/

armour/hp/ele resist 90%

10% usefull stat but then main stats wrong xD

[glacial shell]

omg another suffering farm in S2

[wraith stag]

S2 farm will make u miss s1

enjoy it while it lasts...

[trail bane]

S1 boss drops seemed more generous too

f you wanted break from dungeons

[wraith stag]

I have to disagree there

[glacial shell]

im not doing any gear farm rn, already got my kitsune

[wraith stag]

But that's my 40+ runs no weapon drop talking

[pure nacelle]

this is confusing what

[trail bane]

I crafted wep 😄

[pure nacelle]

LOL

[wraith stag]

You crafted weapon in S1?

[trail bane]

no - tbh i cant even remember s1 was it muku king?

[pure nacelle]

S2 weapons work quite differently than S1

Gear farming is very different as well

[wraith stag]

Yeah iirc Muku King, I farmed it 40x in S1 lol

no weapon

[trail bane]

I remember wonderfull lag times

[wraith stag]

That wasn't what amazed me

what amazed me was

50 bosses

all 50 channels

dead within 6 mins

[trail bane]

Server line about to explode

[wraith stag]

[trail bane]

Ye good old Ironfang too

Was like hmmm my ping is stable/fine...whats going on?! xD

[balmy sleet]

atk dmg% from agility module is all ATK or just physical?

[trail bane]

I assume all because there is a seperate stat for melee damage.

[quaint ermine]

right

https://tenor.com/view/6-7-usada-pekora-hololive-holojp-ぺこら-gif-2841850315106423016

kinda boring

wheres my tina sigils that no one can pass

[pastel eagle]

roku nana

[quaint ermine]

ROKU NANA

[south quest]

How do you get the lantern title?

[stark turret]

is lvl 3 oil better than lvl 3 serum? anyone has a test on it?

[umbral lintel]

you're talking about the phys boost oil?

[stark turret]

yeah

[umbral lintel]

elemental potions are better

[stark turret]

ok thanks

[wind quartz]

was from a community event from 2 weeks ago you can't get it anymore

[short coral]

@wind quartz we keep meeting like this

[wind quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-haha-gif-16493621245761075453

[little trellis]

who is that cutie

[keen shell]

Hey, I'm back ya'll. You know I can't stay away from you gorgeous men. Question: I know the S3 being EoS is very speculative, but if going off Bilibili, I feel like the RP community is what really keeps BPSR alive. Wouldn't you all say that if BPSR actually ports to Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo, that it would save the game from potential disaster? Like I really want BPSR to be the A Realm Reborn of BP. I waited seven freaking years for this game. And I'm sure the devs care about this game, you know?

[trail bane]

no

[keen shell]

<<< is this p2w?

[frosty vale]

actually no, it's farmable

[umbral lintel]

Taking them 3 seasons to finalize the console port is kinda sad ngl

[keen shell]

i wish someone would make a guide on this.

[soft topaz]

Are they actually making a console port

[umbral lintel]

No clue

Would be dumb not to

[keen shell]

Square still haven't given us a Nintendo port of KH native. And Genshin STILL hasn't dropped yet on Nintendo. So I'm used to this at this point

[soft topaz]

For that matter did we get anything like a general round-up recently for what comes in like 2 weeks

[frosty vale]

don't know if maxroll exist one 🤔

[umbral lintel]

Yeah there’s a release schedule

[keen shell]

right, can't expect a lasting player base if everyone is forced on Steam. Steam is considerably niche in the greater modern gaming space.

[umbral lintel]

It’s on Maxroll but it got some of the dates wrong

[soft topaz]

We have the schedule image or

Regardless, about time

[umbral lintel]

Eh steam isn’t niche. If anything this game is niche

[keen shell]

like if you gather 10 gamers in one room, guaranteed, only maybe 2 of them even use Steam.

[keen shell]

I mean, it is and it isnt

Steam is HUUUUGE

But Taylor Swift is also huge

i think you see what im getting at

How many Taylor Swift fans do you know irl?

Even going off ppl you don't personally know

[vapid rose]

Hii I’m sorry- I just have a question so I just got to this part of the game but the area is saying level 55-60 only for the ruins. I’m only level 34. Should I grind up before I do this story quest?

[umbral lintel]

Orrrr just do it anyways

[keen shell]

Like I feel like most people who I feel will play a game like BPSR are not the kind of people who will even have a Steam account. A lot of casual games don't use Steam. Steam is only really used by pc games or people who can afford to use it as a main platform. Like if we base things online, Steam seems like its the main platform for gaming, but if you take people irl, you realize that most people actually game on console.

[vapid rose]

Fair enough

[keen shell]

Like when i worked at Gamestop, a lot of customers didn't even know what a Steam deck was and was shocked when a customer brought one it, during drops

Now, I'm sure most people know of Steam, just as most people know of Taylor Swift, but most people aren't using Steam and most people aren't listening to Taylor Swift. Even though their iiconism and extreme popularity feels otherwise.

[manic matrix]

Not knowing what is a Steam Deck is fair, not knowing what Steam is nowadays is being a video game tourist

[keen shell]

my message sent late.

[wraith stag]

More accurate to say that CN players want to quit in S3 if certain issues they have aren't addressed, not that there's anything pointing to EoS.

Remember, CN is more of a live beta server, we are getting fixes to problems before they existed compared to CN that had to borderline riot for some changes.

EX: Oh it's S2 now, remove all S1 drops from stimen and make it so people can't work on their S1 imagines easily at all.

They also got heavily affected by the dupe bug where GLB servers did not.

[keen shell]

....they did?!

[keen shell]

ngl, i feel like it would have been better to make it possible to do old content that was on S1. Like old bosses? But you can still access them from directly going to the locations right?

[soft topaz]

Tbqh it’s not astronomically unfair to say that JP’s really the ones getting the final product

Notice that global got s1 dungeon voices late

[wraith stag]

CN was getting weekly server updates in S2 with many fixes to problems essentially, we don't need any of that haha.

[soft topaz]

That’s when JP got the game

[keen shell]

i honestly havent really touched pve in S2 and just been loitering doing lifeskills, so im unsure if anything was removed

[raw shale]

you can still do s1 global bosses but you don't get sigil fragments (new gem system) nor the lv 3 orbs (for refining)

[manic matrix]

yeah it's weird that a Chinese published game is getting JP voice lines so late

[raw shale]

and of course no chance for the new gear drops

[soft topaz]

Did they even get the full S1 lines at all?

We got it in Dec

[wraith stag]

You can still do old bosses, but Stimen even the boxes had only S2 materials and thats where a good 80% of resources came from for f2p.

[manic matrix]

We're likely going to get more lines added during the season too

[soft topaz]

I assume JP got theirs day 1

[keen shell]

ooh

yeah, i was shocked when the stuff dropped outdated gear when i did attempt to do some stuff. I mean, it makes kinda sense. Since in every mmorpg this exists. But considering this game can be p2w, its actually a huge problem

[wraith stag]

Some weeks they even had updates 2 days in a row iirc

[keen shell]

Vs a live service mmorpg where you aren't money or resource gated

[wraith stag]

I feel the game handles P2W pretty well tbh, just worse than s1.

[soft topaz]

But that’s not a good trend if they’re getting worse

[wraith stag]

It's only worse because in S1 we had no SSR imagine for dps.

[soft topaz]

So S3 does kind of serve as an important crossroads point

[wraith stag]

That's the big factor really.

[soft topaz]

In a vacuum yes

[wraith stag]

Not really, like

[soft topaz]

But Bokura has been putting a lot of its promises for the next big update

[keen shell]

ngl, I hate the "whale weapon" thing, that existed in Lost Ark, like i actually enjoy forever weapons. It's not like the weapons have special effects, everyone should have access to the forever weapons. Like, i get it, its supposed to be special, then make it a 2% drop then, so once you get it, you can then upgrade it overtime f2p vs being locked out of it entirely

[wraith stag]

F2P can clear M20 in s2

impossible in s1

in that way, it's less p2w

[soft topaz]

Yes

But does this also mean we’re fine if S3 is just S2 2.0?

[wraith stag]

F2P is not locked out

[keen shell]

I mean, they should also up the drop rate of S1 materials

[wraith stag]

at all..

[soft topaz]

They did

[keen shell]

the golds? (imagines/upgrade mats)

i havent noticed

[soft topaz]

It used to be a near soft lock of S1 at first, they changed stimens to be less unforgiving for S1 as a result

[wraith stag]

Also having a drop rate for it would be a horrid idea xD

[keen shell]

wouldn't it take forever to upgrade tho?

[wraith stag]

More of a problem that only existed in CN but we got the patch.

[soft topaz]

The big issue for making ocean more F2P friendly is - what does F2P need it for?

[soft topaz]

No reward content is gated by it

[wraith stag]

It's only a 10-15% dps increase too lol

[keen shell]

well, we dont NEED it

[wraith stag]

It's not Gacha where people can spend 100$ to double their dps

[keen shell]

but im saying, its convenient to not have to grind endlessly for the perf weapon stat distri

that was hell for me in S1

[wraith stag]

Red weappns

[keen shell]

i could not get my bis to drop for shit

[wraith stag]

Weapons*

And craftable weapons

[soft topaz]

We get 150 again soon

As in next week

[wraith stag]

By the time you can use 140 weapon

you will have 150

Guaranteed stats

By the time you can even get 160 weapon

You will have 170

Also guaranteed stats

[soft topaz]

And then again for 160/170 - the same pattern as in S1

For 60/70 and 80/90

[wraith stag]

The week 160 comes out u can get 170 so technically alot better

[soft topaz]

Tbf you could do the same in S1, just now you don’t need unbound luno at all

[wraith stag]

[soft topaz]

I spent my saved luno for that don’t 🐳 me bear bait

[keen shell]

thats why im like, instead of the long asf upgrade because of lack of mats, it should be easier to get the upgrade mats for, in exchange for being obtainable through a 2% droprate in order to maintain exclusivity. So no one is walking around with a perma weapon in droves

Think, Azerite necklace in WoW, but with a droprate for then necklace itself

[wraith stag]

It only takes forever to upgrade if you try to get it without spending any luno for some reason.

The problem is, this is how many people view the weapon.

[wraith stag]

What

[keen shell]

exactly, this is what im saying

[wraith stag]

We are talking about legendary weapons

[keen shell]

im talking about the ocean weapon haha

[wraith stag]

This is leg

[wraith stag]

Basically this isn't even a concern or rationalization

[keen shell]

i forgot to mention that i changed topic

[wraith stag]

Because you don't need to grind out a weapon

[soft topaz]

Really the big thing is at the end of the day you’re not content gated

In fact you’re less gated now than S1

[keen shell]

luno grind tho?

[soft topaz]

By ocean

[wraith stag]

The only weapon you need to find is 120 which is also easily craftable

[wraith stag]

eh?

[wraith stag]

this so hard

[keen shell]

Okay, I'm not being clear.

[wraith stag]

This is what I was replying to

[keen shell]

What I'm saying is. I dislike the ocean weapon / p2w weapon system. Why do I hate it? Not because the weapon is better than any other weapon we have. I hate it because I prefer to have a weapon that I can use forever, that looks unique and that I can continuously upgrade, much like the Azerite necklace. Yes, in Lost Ark, you can gear easily without needing the P2W weapon, you do not need it. But I feel having access to a perma weapon is convenient. When doing S1, I felt like I was in hell because I grinded endlessly for my BIS weapon stat distri, and I know, I will have likely had to replace it upon new Season or item level. Now, I dont know anything about the new legendary system beyond S1. I never ended up getting it. As in the reds. So I'm unsure if this already exist.

[wraith stag]

But this is a horrid idea that would kill the game xD

[keen shell]

So I'm saying, that instead of locking the upgrades behind luno, that the upgrades should be easy and f2p, using bound orbs or whatever, and in exhange, we can only get the weapon through any raid, at a 2% droprate

[wraith stag]

I like being able to use the weapon forever too, it's why I'm going for it F2P and you can too if you aren't a very casual player, in which case you shouldn't concern yourself with ocean.

And like I said before, "hating grinding bis weapon" isn't a thing in s2 so like....

But yeah your issue is never going for reds.

[keen shell]

But I'm not a game dev, so you right, it is likely a horrible idea

[keen shell]

oh, I was unaware.

[wraith stag]

• All the whales who spent 3k usd would quit.

• The weapon wouldn't sell as much, profits down, higher chance for EoS which you are for some reason afraid of.

• Everyone who bought Stellar cores would riot / crash out.

• Weapon being droppable will have the same problem as S1 costumes where you had someone do 500 runs and not get it, people would rage quit.

This causes too many problems and solves none.

[keen shell]

You're right.

[wraith stag]

The upgrades are F2P albeit over an extremely long time and changing it to bound orbs would do nothing.

They could just make it like 100k

[soft topaz]

All this, just for a weapon that doesn’t even unlock content for F2Ps lol.

[wraith stag]

I'm still going for it! HAHA see you in a year

I'm fine with it taking long because at least it's not gated to unbound red orbs only like most other games

I do wish it was shorter.

But the system itself feels fair in my opinion, especially in s2.

[keen shell]

but on a related note, do you need the weapon equipped to use the effect? Or is it seperate? Like can I use both the darkness/flower effect, after buying both. And simply use another weapon equipped in my wardrobe?

[soft topaz]

The only X factor is if they throw a wildcard for S3

Since that’s sort of a “prove this game will live or zombie” to CN

[wraith stag]

iirc yes, it's a weapon not a costume effect, but it's a common request to make it a costume too.

[soft topaz]

Which is meant to have a lot coming out

[wraith stag]

Alot are hyped for twin axe

I'm trying it and hoping it's like an Assassin or Barbarian

ILOVE Iaido but my real main in games is always Sin

[soft topaz]

@umbral lintel you have the link for where maxroll has the S3 schedule?

[wraith stag]

s3 schedule?

[soft topaz]

Apparently maxroll has the S3 release schedule for CN

not accurate dates but the content

[wraith stag]

I didn't see anything on bili or bp site

You sure Neo wasn't talking about S2?

[umbral lintel]

I was talking about s2

[wraith stag]

ooo makes sense

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1438555395151888534/1465736167629521048/image.png?ex=69a1bdae&is=69a06c2e&hm=84f6e92ebc6c04a27ae74800d6f8f38f799afb9bd9a4b04e618284ea0499095b&

this then

[umbral lintel]

Maybe I misunderstood what you’ve asked 🤔

Yeah that

I’m pretty sure China have no clue what’s going on either. There’s no road map lmao

[keen shell]

yeah, i really want this game to last, I don't wanna pay $100+ for the frost mage set and mount if the game is gonna die months later

thats not being a responsible adult

thats like me being a new vacuum cleaner only to smash it to pieces with a hammer because, "it's not Roomba" T.T

Such a waste

And you guys know how much high quality vacuum cleaner costs

[wraith stag]

No different than buying a console game then beating it

I don't think game will EoS though but that's just me haha

[wraith stag]

BUT WAIT WHAT

100$ for frostmage set?!!

[keen shell]

a console game is easily a $60 and has playability, a game no longer being able to access does not

[wraith stag]

costumes cost that much?!

[keen shell]

ye

[keen shell]

$156.95

If your rng is shit

[wraith stag]

[keen shell]

The costume is $156.95 and the mount is $156.95

[wraith stag]

didnt know

[keen shell]

That's why I've been saving up all of my meowlux coins LOL

[wraith stag]

just

buy it with luno!!

[keen shell]

That's like 9,000,000 luno

how tf imma get that?

especially before the banner expires?

And this doesn't include rng for the upgraded versions, which is what I REALLY want

[wraith stag]

how much u got so fa-

rng for upgraded version?

[keen shell]

meowlux tickets

you need 10

meowlux tickets for the upgrades

[wraith stag]

I know, I never thought of it as being RNG though

Like, if you have 1 right now

the chances of you getting another 9 are very slim

[keen shell]

30 if including mount

[wraith stag]

You'd need to pull another costume essentially and dismantle it

[soft topaz]

yeah I thought CN finally got a roadmap

but eh

[wraith stag]

[soft topaz]

they probably are getting one like when we did

[keen shell]

I managed to end up with 5 meowlux tickets during the water banner, but i never even got the costume lmao

[soft topaz]

which was what the week before release?

[wraith stag]

They have got some questions answered in developer interviews

New class confirmed, reset event, s3 imagine boxes

[keen shell]

so i spent it on the mimic set

[wraith stag]

wow

[soft topaz]

so if we're like 2nd week of March with no road map then I'd start getting worried lol

unless they said they're intentionally not giving one this time

[keen shell]

i had to sell one muku chief to get maybe 1-2 tickets i think, during S1

[wraith stag]

I wasn't expecting a road map

But that's just me personally haha

[keen shell]

so i have no upgraded muku chiefs

[wraith stag]

marsh what the hecky

[soft topaz]

well Global's been getting them

so maybe admittedly not CN

[wraith stag]

CN is globals road map

[soft topaz]

idk if I do reset to new class or if I burn my new class thingy to pick up new class

[keen shell]

drip is everything! okay!?!

https://tenor.com/view/noragami-anime-fabulous-gif-21750266

[wraith stag]

I have wasted a ton on fashion too

and that's F2P

[soft topaz]

since I'm gonna be mass convertnig books and prob have 600+ unused books

[wraith stag]

Get your Luno skills up

(F2P should be making 800k~ luno per week)

[keen shell]

the S2 market is confusing T.T

[soft topaz]

I have 15k wardrobe score, you're far from the worst offender here lmao

[wraith stag]

WOAH LMAO

HK can i have a small loan of 5m luno

[keen shell]

jesus, i only have 2.3k wardrobe score

R.i.p

[soft topaz]

maybe if you show that you now have bear repellent

[keen shell]

how?

is there a guide?

cause in eeeeed

[wraith stag]

It's called, bring a whale icicle

[soft topaz]

there's people who don't care about fashion either funny enough, I saw this Max M5 score with ocean and max imagines but his wardrobe score was sub-2k lol

[keen shell]

i really want the animal ears/tails, and the full frostmage set and mount

[soft topaz]

F2P fit with Max Master score is a vibe

[keen shell]

then i would probably switch to Frost mage bcuz why else would i get the set

[soft topaz]

oh yeah next banner's fit

gonna be crazy with the icicles

[keen shell]

Faker activities, i heard dude doesnt use skins

[soft topaz]

he hates them lol

which is why it turned into a meme when he wanted to win an Ahri worlds skin

[keen shell]

why didnt they give me it for free?

[soft topaz]

I've not followed since he got ring 5, is he back for this year or is he "retired"

[keen shell]

i thought he was playing this year?

[soft topaz]

ok so it's this year that might be his last

[keen shell]

Ngl, imagine if Pokemon Unite had a Faker

[soft topaz]

guessing he wants to try for the 3peat

[keen robin]

How many Armor I get from Strenght?

[keen shell]

oh, he going for a mayweather

Wolfe Glick should do that lmao

[soft topaz]

he's bigger thna mayweather in LoL, I don't think anyone's remotely catching him

he's literally done Brady's run

2 dynasties by himself lol

[keen shell]

dude literally have official theme songs

Not a single celebrity has their own fckng theme song

[wraith stag]

6000 Daily from mission ( 42k )
55k Daily from life skills ( 385k )
110,000 Weekly from Focus Potion
18,000 Daily from Guild ( 126,000)

663k Luno

Then sell any drops you get, I get like 300k from this weekly but I lowballed it.

[keen shell]

but he does kekek

[keen shell]

besides ppl like John Cena

and Dwayne

[soft topaz]

the guy who CN cannot beat for some reason and KR cannot persistently figure out

[keen shell]

mission, what mission, which life skills?

[soft topaz]

dude ran over the entirety of CN in 2024 and then beat all his KR demons in 2025, idk how he tops it unless he wins it all this year to stamp GOAT status

[umbral lintel]

Guild cargo is kinda random

Sometimes you have to buy stuff to complete it

[wraith stag]

Activity mission
Mining or Gemcrafting

[keen shell]

bumping for you

[soft topaz]

I actually do it pretty often myself

[keen shell]

uh

[soft topaz]

I use artisanry to sell and then offset by buying from market for cargo

[keen shell]

i dont know what that is

[soft topaz]

it usually just nets out tbh

[keen shell]

im dumb

[soft topaz]

to SUPER optimize I'll need to fish

[wraith stag]

im not online

its the daily activity mission xD

in season

[umbral lintel]

I bring out my calculator to ensure I’m always making a profit lol

[keen shell]

oh you mean this?

[wraith stag]

thats guild

[keen shell]

or this

WAIT

THIS DROPS LUNO!?!

[soft topaz]

in my experience the difference is like ~1k luno max, so me the super lazy bum just goes "eh w/e" lol

[wraith stag]

check 150 tab

o no 200

ya ur on it

[keen shell]

A whole Season later and i had no idea

[wraith stag]

6k luno per day haha

[umbral lintel]

Hmm must be unlucky with the guild cargo requests

[keen shell]

no wonder i was able to get mimic, i was getting luno the entire time and didnt even know

[soft topaz]

that's the worst case scenario, I typically net out

[keen shell]

when you say life skills? what do you mean?

[trail bane]

Pre buy the next days high value items if they have a lowish price. ( Craft if you prefer )

[keen shell]

imma put this whole in a microsoft document

[keen shell]

for guild missions?

[trail bane]

Ye

Once you complete the mission it shows you the next days items and their values.

[umbral lintel]

Using focus

[wraith stag]

Just spend focus

ya

what have you been spending it on so far

o-o

[keen shell]

wait, so just spending focus drops luno?

[wraith stag]

You can sell everything made with focus besides like, gear

[keen shell]

fully unlocking the life skill talents

[wraith stag]

But what did you do

[keen shell]

and hoarding the drops when im not using the crafts to upgrade stuff

[wraith stag]

o.0

sell all that

[keen shell]

i just be collecting sht lol

[wraith stag]

u crafted random / weird things it looks like ya XD

I got 100k luno so far today

[trail bane]

Just sell everything with the SELL icon on and be done with it >_>

[wraith stag]

im back to bound luno farming

HAHAHAHA

[trail bane]

Except its just not enough :{

[keen shell]

but isnt that bound luno?

[wraith stag]

WTF

[keen shell]

i thought you can only use unbound luno for meowlux tickets

and the costumes

[wraith stag]

h im talking about for myself

lol

[trail bane]

I need so much luno for homestead and pushing crafts. They should let us sell the mob drops for luno already >_>

[wraith stag]

ive only farmed a few hours

getting 200k per day is enouygh for me

were getting out of poverty with this one

[trail bane]

No its not anywhere near enough! xD

[wraith stag]

wow LMAO

ur farming luno too tho?

[trail bane]

I mean im afk as much as possible as a healer ye xD

[wraith stag]

wwhere do u afk

[trail bane]

Gob shaman is where i have always gone

[wraith stag]

s2 mobs dont drop luno silly

[trail bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/everyone-brown-shaun-LyJ6KPlrFdKnK

I think they do but its nowhere like 30 per :-d

Im seeing 5 luno

[wraith stag]

thats depressing

[trail bane]

Well not per

[wraith stag]

i dont remember seeing it drop at all though

[trail bane]

Whenever it drops xD Not even per kill :{

Get all the same things on S1 mobs?

[wraith stag]

all the same things? :o

[trail bane]

Like the different xps or w,e

[wraith stag]

didnt know this though i wonder if the drop rate is lower

ive sat there for LONG TIME and didn't see a single luno

without it being from like, an elite

[wraith stag]

oh i have enough dreambloom exp that i dont need to worry about it anymore

Id go to like, level 90 right now if it was possible and next cap will be 80

[trail bane]

I only have enough for like 70

[wraith stag]

So by the time they unlock 100 Id max it just from daily

so I dont farm dream exp anymore

Using my falconry for farming mobs is more minmaxy

I afk too much to make cocoons good

[trail bane]

cocoons also no luno is it?

[wraith stag]

ya but at least it gives drops thats actually usable ya know?

for me all i can do is farm s1 mobs

[trail bane]

Factor boxes always seem enough and are affordable , i havent really spent any time a them :[

Everyone always wanted to farm the highest with the shortest afk times so thats a big no for me xD

[wraith stag]

so u see why im going back to s1 mobs

LMAO

[trail bane]

30 per drop seems like its way better ngl

[wraith stag]

yeahhhh when u no longer need dreamloom exp its so good

[trail bane]

30 seems to be max normal mob - shame there arent farm partys and some dense mob areas :[

I suppose the old void farm spots could pass

[wraith stag]

yup thats where i go

[keen shell]

worth?

[wraith stag]

Falconry? No
Wolf? I have no clue

[keen shell]

what is the bis wildpack food?

pan-seared fish right?

[wraith stag]

BIS wolf food is uhh

[trail bane]

Best wildpack food is just deserts 😄

[solemn bough]

is tehre any trick to sell those to my alt?xD

[sullen bobcat]

write down the time you put them up for sale to the exact second
buy the amount you listed moments before it reaches 24 hours passed, personally I do about 30 seconds

[solemn bough]

gotcha, but how can i write down the time ?

[wraith stag]

Buy it 23 hours 59 minutes and 55 seconds after listing it

And make sure if it's something that goes into notice you account for that

if it's something that has notice I recommend following this.

• Before you list it check the "notice" section and find the item you are trying to sell, make sure no others are being listed around the same time.

• Delay the "24 hour" by an hour since it's not going up yet due to "Notice"

[wraith stag]

I use a discord server channel in my own server.

[wheat elk]

I'm on SEA S1, and is this possible?
Using mounts while attacking?

[solemn bough]

does it always work?

[wraith stag]

99% of the time for me yes

[normal parrot]

No

[vestal agate]

It’s just visual bug that happens sometimes

It’s normal for them on their screen

[keen shell]

if this was possible, this would be bad ass

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-warriors-kenshin-uesugi-uesugi-kenshin-drink-god-of-war-gif-3790822332849692084

[wheat elk]

suggest it please...

[flat heath]

hello, someone have a way to see the chests? i cant see them instantly i have to wait like 40s and i have pass a lot of them cuz of that problem, for now i have the graphics in custom and has the post processing in high, details in middle and no special effect, does some of that option make the appearance of chest faster?

[river gate]

does this thing actually appear in the inventory or is it automatically redeemed

[umbral lintel]

auto

[winged thorn]

How do I purchase paid products if I'm playing the steam version of the game?

[umbral lintel]

not sure what you're asking for. you just go into the store page and buy the currency

[winged thorn]

Yeah I can't find the products page
Unless I'm doing something wrong
I'll try again

[tiny zodiac]

You won't see it on mobile

[river gate]

is there any reason to do daily tasks if the honor coin weekly limit is full?

[wispy flax]

which one is daily task?

if u refer to activity merit, the 50 - 100 - 200 give u seasonal exp

[river gate]

sorry, the commisions

[wispy flax]

like 720k/day

oh

if u need the reputation, go for it

[river gate]

i see, so only for rep points

[umbral lintel]

you in season 1 or 2?

commissions are kinda important to buy the stuff from the reputation shop so you should still do them everyday

[wraith stag]

Bound Luno too!

[tardy arch]

When will we be able to make the raid wep for s2?

[umbral lintel]

monday technically

[tardy arch]

I see so players who dont buy materials from AH will probably have to wait til the following week to craft?

[umbral lintel]

probably

[wraith stag]

You should have enough materials on Monday no?

I swore it's 50

[tropic fog]

how many glitters you need for it, ah like prev season 50/100?

[soft topaz]

If it’s 50 you should have enough come Monday

[tropic fog]

wait, arent this 100/50 tho

[quaint ermine]

I think it’s 50

[tropic fog]

maxroll says 50 yeah

[soft topaz]

Is that for 150 or for 160 ocean

I can’t seem to find the maxroll page for it lol

[tropic fog]

Level 140

20 Glinting Stellar Cores

Level 160

25 Glinting Stellar Cores
50 Glittering Fluxgold (Season 2 material)

Level 180

30 Glinting Stellar Cores
100 Glittering Fluxgold

[soft topaz]

That’s ocean

[tropic fog]

yeah?

[soft topaz]

Unless 150 and ocean use the same upgrades?

[tropic fog]

i thought you asked for ocean

Item Level 150 Weapon Requirements

x50 Glittering Fluxgold
20000 Luno (Bound)
Item-level 140 weapon at 100 perfection

Item Level 170 Weapon Requirements

x100 Glittering Fluxgold
50000 Luno (Bound)
Item-level 160 weapon at 100 perfection

[soft topaz]

Nah that I knew, I meant the 150 weapon sine that’s next week

Ok ty, that makes perfect sense

So should be able to 150 weapon right away next week

[soft topaz]

by the way, what cocoons do people farm at

[amber pendant]

i want to play both frost mage and marksman, but they both use the same mirage dream psychoscope. is the only way to navigate this to manually change the tree out every time i change class?

[wraith stag]

Yes

Although technically

Icicle uses Fantasia

If you play Beam for some reason, then the best solution is to put Falconry on dreamforce

It's decent, not as good as Mirage Dream but not bad at all.

[livid garnet]

My party just cleared the area 2 boss of slumberdream valley, but we didn't get any slumber dream crystals and only got remnants, does anyone know why? Do we not get rewards if it enrages?

[ionic dagger]

there's a cap of 50 per week currently; maybe you hit the cap?

[glad bear]

this slumberdream event

do you really only get two crystals per 10 minutes of doing this garbage?

do you get the weekly 40 for free or something from weekly quest or is it one time

aint no way u have to do this twenty five times per week 250 minutes worth of this

mindless farm

[livid garnet]

was our first time killing the boss ever so we weren't capped yet

but we tried again and killed the zone 1 boss instead and got 2 crystals lol

so it might be an enrage thing

[glad bear]

current record: 5 min 54s per 2 crystals. run through all mobs, kill first zone boss, do the event, go to final boss room

that cuts it down to 6min x 25 = 2.5hrs

the above ^ is the optimal strat to get stones, anything else is not worth, dont bother, just wait till nightmare unlocks

[primal acorn]

You can try going for LVL 2 or 3. It increases the crystal by 1 for each level. So in total u get 4 but it takes way longer than just doing LVL 1 25 times

[crimson violet]

Is there any guide for shield spec in maxroll is outdated

[primal acorn]

<@&599291260301344768>

Ty

[limpid arrow]

the life wave and dmg stack are exclusive for a type of module, example life wave guard type o are random?

[trail bane]

Not sen lifewave on dps but i think tank and healer can get lifewave

[limpid arrow]

Thans EvangelisUk

[trail bane]

I only have 1 Dmgstack as a dps for the entire time ive played the game. Never missed events or shops/bosses ect. ( Day 1 player )

[stark turret]

how many reforge/reforge stone does the 140 weapon needs?

[umbral lintel]

132 stones

[stark turret]

thanks

[stark turret]

if you switch class, would the modules set for that class would be save in the loadouts?

[wraith stag]

[tropic fog]

Since i can apply same Factors in Deep-Slumber and Slumberdream Psychoscope does it mean that dream one doesn't work outside of event and Deep one inside of event?

[mighty token]

hello im new to the game i choose stormblade but there is this quest where it said class change and i choose wind knight am i gonna turn into wind knight after i complete this quest?

[tropic fog]

youll unlock +1 class in profile, where you can change them any time, but beware there is only 3 free loadouts

[mighty token]

ohhh thank god

i taught it will forced me to change wind knight

[wraith stag]

They both work inside event.
Event one doesn't work outside the event.

[tropic fog]

but Powerdraw count or Radiance count doesn't stack when i put both factors and activated them, how to check if others +Dmg work properly...

oh wait, maybe they are i didnt check in event tho

nope still only 2

do +dmg factors stack or not? should i choose not same factors

oh wait powerdraw charges 2 by default...

oh its a hit count my bad ill try with radiance

hmm, still 2 radiance

okay so with Deep Slumber - 2 radiance, with Slumber - 2 radiance. with both...2 radiance

so same factors doesnt stack or there is a limit written somewhere for radiance and +dmg can apply?

[wraith stag]

I don't quite understand what you are testing, but the same factor doesn't work multiple times.

[wraith stag]

What do you mean?

[tropic fog]

game allow me to put same factors for Deep Slumber tree and Slumberdream tree, im asking if they both stack or its simply overlooked

[wraith stag]

Oh, not the trees itself?

I mean, you can't use 2 of the same factor it won't double it.

[tropic fog]

but...i can

[wraith stag]

You can equip it but it won't do anything is what I am saying.

[tropic fog]

i think you dont get what i trying to say

[wraith stag]

Yeah I think we have a disconnect somewhere

[tropic fog]

for example put this factor in Shattered Illusion tree and in Imagine Acceleration tree it will result only in 2 Radiance charge when both tree activated inside of dungeon event

when it should be 3 unless there is a total hidden limit

[wraith stag]

^

The same factor does not work multiple times.

You will get +1 not +2

The damage will not work either

[tropic fog]

when i activate Shattered ONLY inside of event its 2, when Imagine ONLY inside of event its 2, when i activate both inside of event it still 2

but game doesnt say anything about not working

both can be activated at the same time

so im asking if it stack or not

[wraith stag]

I don't know if you want me to tell you the same answer for the 6th time

[tropic fog]

so same not working? but allow me to use both, so they dont work but still use factor slot, right?

[unborn reef]

when do hard raids unlock?

[wraith stag]

Yes the same one does not work, this goes for both the normal and event tree, you can slot it in but will not gain the effects more than once.

The event slots you are meant to be using the event class specific factors from the shop anyway.

[wraith stag]

Monday

[unborn reef]

next week?

[wraith stag]

Yup we get the first hard raid

[unborn reef]

💀

[wraith stag]

o.0?

[tropic fog]

scroll down, there is general def/atk and class exclusive slots also in event ones... in shop at least right now only rhapsody.

[wraith stag]

I know?

[tropic fog]

so general atk/def all those also will be insertable but will not gonna do any buffs in the event if there is the same ones in Dream tree, right?

no warnings nothing, well thats great for clueless players i guess

[long elm]

Is there a way to reset all used books back to unselected books like we had that event at the start of the year? For the purpose of changing classes.

[wraith stag]

In season 3 yes.

[twin field]

Hihi, I was doing the Ocean Platinum Card quest to get to my homestead, but I was in a party when it tried to teleport me. I have no idea how to get there now 😅

[real dragon]

So I just came back after not playing since like day 1 and I got the level 60 boost, but now I constantly have a "Press [ESC] the open the menu" prompt on screen and I dont know to remove it, Ive clicked through every menu and it still wont go away. Do I have to complete certain quests or something?

[wraith stag]

Relog

It will fix itself after that

[twin field]

Fixed it, thank you! :D

[wraith stag]

[real dragon]

nvm a relog fixed it

[oak elm]

for soundless trash, this tankbuster thing is supposed to explode even if i stand in it right

[vivid thunder]

Does any1 know when r the images buffs bein implemented if they even r gonna be implemented? Just like cn has it

[desert goblet]

Trying to find this quests loc, but can't see it marked on the map?

[soft topaz]

This seems to be a bad translation of the actual bosses, but I think this is the new S2 raid with the two caprahorns

[desert goblet]

not following exacty, new to the game still

[desert goblet]

found in monster hunt?

[soft topaz]

Found here https://assets-ng.maxroll.gg/wordpress/Dreambloom-Ruins-Entrance-1024x576.webp

[desert goblet]

thx, checked trough the different areas til I found it 🙂

[nimble coral]

if you buy a skin from the trading you can break it for the 5 meowlux?

[wraith stag]

[hybrid hatch]

mind telling me what this do exactly?
cheat death, is it e.e?

[wraith stag]

It doesn't cheat death it's more of an anti burst

[umbral lintel]

you can still die

[wraith stag]

[hybrid hatch]

so... like, is it useful?
i just follow guide but peronally, i can't tell how useful this thing for hg block o:

[umbral lintel]

it can potentially save your life. probably more important on tanks than dps since they need to stay alive

[hybrid hatch]

hmm, alright o:

[nocturne shoal]

my friend made a new char and got instantly stalked and spammed with guild recruitment people

they changed line and shit and was still followed by a stalker

is this normal?

[wraith stag]

No

What's the big deal though, just block

[sullen bobcat]

is this real

[wraith stag]

Yes

[sullen bobcat]

do you know when

[wraith stag]

#star-resonance message

[sullen bobcat]

s3 💥

ok

was fishing for info for my guildies

lmao concerto gives 67% damage modifier

so real

[wheat elk]

too many strength class o.o

[wraith stag]

To be fair we have 1 STR dps 1 AGI dps and 1 INT dps

No matter what they picked there would be too many

And if they made this AGI then Assassin would be weirdge

STR makes the most sense

[small bison]

are we able to get 150weapons on weekly reset?

[upbeat gazelle]

hi! can i ask for working codes in haoplay server? i cant use what i saw in yt and google

[livid egret]

i think so yeah! someone said the recipe will unlock on monday. As long as you have the 50 materials required :3

[sullen bobcat]

2 agi dps

[small bison]

ohh it's onlyy 50mats?

[sullen bobcat]

or are you trying to say the only point in archers is to be deter slave

kekeke

[viral totem]

Recently returned to playing and wondering how to get more "Remnant of Dreams" material game has barely given any at this point and you need so many for the factors for the nodes...

[solemn bough]

why can you dismantle everything in this game but not activated imagines -_-?

[pure nacelle]

cocoons

the pink nodes on s2 maps

[viral totem]

oh thats what those are for

[pure nacelle]

find one that is under your level or matches your level

[viral totem]

thank you

[wraith stag]

Should be able to get it on weekly reset

[eager panther]

Hello/
Can someone explain what exactly needs to be done to get & complete the "Slumberdream weekly quests" needed to unlock the masks and charms tied to the newish rogue-like mode for this season?

[wraith stag]

There's a weekly quest, sorta like how there was one this week that gave some rewards initially... but the ones that gives mask / charms well it's not out yet

[nocturne shoal]

Skyward chat did more testing on this

PE's crit rate is around 50% of our self-crit rate

iaido's PE

[keen shell]

hey guys

how long do cosmetic banners last again?

[neon needle]

cocoons will give you tons of remnants + factors

[keen shell]

how many points is this worth?

[keen shell]

i mean from Day 1

to end

im trying to budget my expenses to see if i can fit the next banner into it

but there are time constraints for if that is even possible

[umbral lintel]

about 30 days each banner

at least for the delusion wave and turbo bunny banners

[neon needle]

if you break it down? 1 ticket.

[keen shell]

i meant collection points

or meowlux points

[umbral lintel]

80

you can check your wardrobe to see how many points a cosmetic is worth

[keen shell]

thanks

[tacit flame]

Bruh. @wraith stag you are amazing. You answer so many questions a day. How the heck do you even do this? You're doing God's work.

[wraith stag]

tyyy! I just like helping people

[viral totem]

yup already making good progress!

[solid prairie]

I just started and for some reason I can't do the "explore tina's mindrealm" in the "into the black and white" quest line

[winged thorn]

I'm stuck at the "collect energy" part of the kartgriff story boss

How do I collect the energy to stop the attack?

[latent rover]

No chest...

[wind quartz]

if we buy the dragon mount with 3 skins (front mid and ass) we get 300 collection points?

[manic matrix]

Yes it is 300 points

[lean aurora]

how to unlock the "Just a little more" title from season hub? I don't see it there

[pure nacelle]

@lean aurora

[lean aurora]

oooh is a trophy I've been trying to find a title lol thank you very much

[pure nacelle]

If it wasn't clear, they intend to gate you first until you complete your first set of gear

then after you finish your first set of gear, they release the floodgates so you can build other classes / gear piece/sets

[lean aurora]

I see. I thought it was already achievable since I saw most people got like 2.1k IS and I'm over here wondering how to reach that lol

[pure nacelle]

ocean + buying stones off trading center

[lean aurora]

thank you so much for the info, I'll just wait for the unlock thats a bit too much for me xD

[pure nacelle]

actually, 2.1k is within the realm of f2p if you were on top of your dream levels and reforge farming

2.3k is where whales are at

[lean aurora]

I have 3 raid gear set, but 6 pieces of my gears are around 49-60 reforge.

[pure nacelle]

iirc if you farmed out reforge stones (dailies, stores, shops, raids, and weekly dungeons) and didn't miss any, 9 pieces should be at perfection

[lean aurora]

I might've missed some last week, this week I haven't farmed any at all. I'll try to do them see how far I can go. Thank you so much for the help

[manic matrix]

Can confirm the 9 pieces at perfection, I have that amount nearly perfected that would take roughly the 90 stones I have in my inventory right now

[soft topaz]

or the equivalent of it, some might be getting the weapon ready for 150 on monday and are therefore prob not 9 max

[ashen stag]

how do i prevent dying from the illusory moonveil boss in m1 after the grass/tree/chest hiding mechanic?
we all wipe after this mechanic and i cant find any guide

[hearty bison]

no clue

[stark turret]

read what the game is telling u to do, there's a text clue

[ashen stag]

where

it didnt pop up for me

[short coral]

Is that the part where you are supposed to find the correct Nappo?

[ashen stag]

not even talking about this

was talking about the mechanic after that

already found out though thanks for nothing

[vague wren]

There is a Yellow Circle that targets each player, if you get hit 2 times by it, it is instant death, simply spread out so you only get hit by your own circle.

[trail bane]

@wraith stag My brains cooked - not even 5 luno from S2 mob farm. Idk where i was getting the item/drop history from as i hadnt really gone anywhere else.

[white eagle]

Do you mean you're mysteriously getting luno drops from mobs on bahamar highlands?

||(my brain's cooked too)||

[trail bane]

I mena i thought i was - i checked the drop history and was seeing random 5 lunos. I cant say 100% what it actually was from now, i thought at the time it was Shaman farm,

[white eagle]

But yeah, there's no luno drops on thpse mobs

[white eagle]

Ohh

Threre are mobs there that spawn S1 mobs

Beehives

Those guys spawns Bzarrs

That in turn drop luno

Might be that or something else

[trail bane]

Idk where i was getting 5 luno because top s1 mobs are 30 and then it goes down with the level. Hence my brains cooked.

[white eagle]

Well, all I know where those guys hahhaa

Wait hold on lemme see some pics

[trail bane]

Thinking of trying to set up an S1 farm group somewhere now for people who want luno xD

Will have to wait till i get back from work :{

[white eagle]

Yeah from bzarrs

[white eagle]

You might wanna go hunt caprahorns instead ^^

Heard they drop luno and season exp

Idk how much luno tho

[trail bane]

Im just trying to recreate the afk healer experience - get everyone elses kills/xp And luno hopefully.

[white eagle]

Well, just a suggestion for farming spot XD (caprahorn/mobs on stray stairway)

[viscid jacinth]

How can i get permission to post in the guild chat

[wraith stag]

O LMAO so I'm not crazy! but dang yeah thats painge

I moved back to s1 mob farming since I don't need dream exp or care to farm cocoon

[wraith stag]

interesting o:

[wispy flax]

#read-first

[white eagle]

You can farm the mobs on new map too, at least according to some guildies

They drop luno, exp, points (tho reduced)

[wraith stag]

I just went back to Duskeye cause the rates are nice

[austere thicket]

Is there a map of where the SIlver Nappo Bombs could be?

I hate this RNG PoS.

[wraith stag]

It follows the same paths every single time, one of those three

You can recognize which path it is by using the tool near it

[austere thicket]

I needed this so bad, this event is driving me insane.

[wraith stag]

[austere thicket]

Okay, honestly, what do I do when Dream Nappo just puts that orange AoE on me?

It's clearly not a tank buster, but it behaves hell a lot like one, and it doesn't discriminate who's in it.

It just... kills. Other than i-framing, what can I do?

[wraith stag]

That's the boss right?

Like the final boss

Sounds like the attack where he puts a bomb under every party member

[austere thicket]

Even if I jumped, I still died. Like.. what do I even do?

[wraith stag]

Are you getting hit by multiple explosions?

Like, you should be able to tank your own bomb but not the bombs of anyone else

[austere thicket]

I died to any of these bombs.

Oneshot regardless, and it's just master 1 anyway.

And if I get the AoE, I WILL die anyway.

like tf?

[wraith stag]

is it a different attack than i'm thinking of

[wraith stag]

Is it just you or is it on everyone

If it's on multiple people, then yeah that's the ring of doom

You gotta I-frame it if you can't tank your own hit, good practice for higher masters

If you are near anyone else you take more damage from their explosion ( basically instant death ) so it could be that

[gentle prism]

anyone have any problems unable press L-Shift to dodge/sprint in game lately?

[austere thicket]

This one. This unironically kills me in oneshot, regardless of how I am, where I am, and what I'm doing. I don't understand.

[deep nacelle]

that skill targets 1 by 1 of your teammates

if you get hit twice you are pretty much dead

[wraith stag]

Yeah that's it

[austere thicket]

Yeah, I figure, so why do I die getting hit ONCE a kilometer away.

[deep nacelle]

you sure the bots didnt hit you once?

[austere thicket]

I practice social distancing.

[wraith stag]

I'd say it's because you are a smite but you have Tina so you are one of the good ones

[keen shell]

i am the only one who find it impossible to catch up on refining?

the game is pretty handholdy on catching up with everything, EXCEPT refining.

I mean, they give us well enough starforge crystals

but they give us like zero forge stones

[wispy flax]

hv u buy all the blind box from reclaim hub?

like, its not guaranteed

[keen shell]

yes

[wispy flax]

but they do offer the smelting stone product as reward

but yea, catching up to +20 in 1 week is not possible I think

[keen shell]

2 weeks

[wispy flax]

+15 on atk and +10 on defense, maybe

[keen shell]

honestly three weeks

three weeks and the whole of S1 honestly (i left a bit before the Master expired)

but im also, im between a rock and a hand place

Do I, spend all of my rocks on refining, and use focus to smelt when i could be using focus to gather? Or two, do i just hoarde veerything, sell on marketboard so i can get meowlux tickets

Like this game NEEDS account character trading

so i can have a crafting/gathering alt

and a gearing alt

and simply focus on smelting and etc on my main, and gathering on my alt

or use my main for crafting, or the alt for gathering to be more accurate

[manic matrix]

Refines are long a term progression

that you can speed up with focus or lunos

I've been playing since day 1 on my main and I'm barely full 15

with the weapon being 25

[keen shell]

you're kidding?

[manic matrix]

Nope

because I'd rather get lunos from smelting than small stat upgrades

I've only focused on my weapon since it's the biggest stat boost for my role

I probably could have been at least full 20 if I focused on it

but I would have had weaker imagines

It's just long term progression that you can speed up or profit from

[keen shell]

ngl, that makes me want to turn my character into a lifeskill character and just say F it on gearing or gearscore.

[manic matrix]

Honestly refines are not that important

It eventually adds up

but it's not a main priority

You'll eventually get enough materials and mech shards from daily stuff

[little hornet]

yup, refinement is rough

[wraith stag]

You are looking at it the wrong way imo.

[wraith stag]

And this is DEFINITELY the wrong way

It kind of seems entitled too. I don't mean that offensively but I'm sure that the majority would definitely agree, Blue Protocol does a stellar job helping new and returning players catch up and not feel like they need to grind months just to reach endgame.

They are essentially giving almost everything to players who are new or returning, you can argue they do that job too well.

Let the long time daily active players have at least something, reclaim hub already makes it so that they get practically everything. If there's nothing that separates daily active players from brand new or casual / slackers then what's the point in actually playing or doing content anymore?

[wraith stag]

Hoard everything and sell, refining isn't that important and it's not meant to be something you invest Luno into.

You should be getting it passively and only invest into it if you are able to get the materials at quite literally minimum price ( was possible initially in s1 )

I have pretty high refinement because I bought as much as I could back when it was 1k ea

If I didn't then I wouldn't have invested even a single luno into it.

[wraith stag]

This would kill the game

[tardy arch]

Can confirm @wraith stag is right. I had the same theory before but the game is designed where we can’t exploit advancements with alts or we’ll be playing the lost ark alt fest

[wraith stag]

LMAO PLS NOT LOST ARK ALT FARMING

I'd basically want to quit LMAO i have ptsd

[keen shell]

I haven't read the rest yet, but I'm going to say this now. entitled? I wouldn't say all of that. You can do this in every mmorpg.

In every mmorpg you can farm lifeskill on alts

[wraith stag]

I don't think you understand what you are suggesting.

[keen shell]

but I'm going to read the rest now

[keen shell]

This makes sense

[keen shell]

I don't see how

[tardy arch]

Who doesn’t like farming on 6 alts to fail your 1% success rate upgrade

[keen shell]

This would only kill the game if you trade and the stuff traded ISN'T account bound

[tardy arch]

It’ll kill the market for reselling though

[keen shell]

That's what I just said

The solution would be to ensure that anything traded between characters are account bound, and cannot be posted on the marketplace

[tardy arch]

If you can get bound upgrade materials to transfer to your main then the unbound loses value as less people are willing to pay for it

[keen shell]

no

thats not what I said

[wraith stag]

CMIIW But you essentially suggested "account character trading"
This would cause hundreds of problems and fix none, they already let you trade non progression materials through homestead but doing this would cause many players including myself to quit.

To name a few of the massive issues with this suggestion.

• People would be required to have 3 accounts just to try and stay relevant, players like myself who do not want to alt farm or do not have the time would quit.
• Imagines would be virtually useless / free and everyone who invested into it are fricked.
• You would get Ocean weapon in no time at all, whales would all rage quit
• The market would die out entirely, which is the #1 source of F2P Income

[keen shell]

unbound materials should be tradable to mains from alts, then once the unbound items are traded, they then become bound

[wraith stag]

Nope, it would kill the game even if it is bound, I said all this under the assumption that it was bound anyway.

Nobody would benefit from this idea, it would just be EOS speedrun.

[keen shell]

when i say alts, i dont mean accounts

i mean characters

[umbral lintel]

this would severely make the marketplace value of those refine mats plummet

[wraith stag]

I know

3 per account

That's why I said "required to have 3"

Doesn't change it being one of the worst possible things they could do to the game.

[keen shell]

Hmm, well shouldn't they just limited what the traded materials could be used on then? I'm sure nobody loses if they limit the traded items to be only used on homestead stuff, that literally are not sold on the MB

[wraith stag]

They already did that

They limited it so you can only use non progression materials, which is entirely fair.

Anything more and that's what kills the game

[keen shell]

???

[wraith stag]

You can trade up to 15 food / potions per week in homestead

[keen shell]

?? between characters?

[wraith stag]

Yes?

[keen shell]

Food/potions though

[wraith stag]

Like I said, non progression materials

[keen shell]

I meant more like, furniture , furniture isn't progression

[wraith stag]

Can't you do that too?

Because you share homestead

99% sure you can

[keen shell]

So...bare with me now

imma draw this out

[tardy arch]

I didn’t even know this.. is it worth it? I hardly use any food/potions as a tank

Then again I’m a casual M16 ceiling player lol

[wraith stag]

It's only worth it if you need it

It helps me tons HAHA

[tardy arch]

Yeeee cause you’re doing overtime community service 🤣

[wraith stag]

u dont know how much food i burned doing that HAHAHAAHHA

[wraith stag]

What you are suggesting sounds like the system that's already in place... but you want it to be for progression materials too

Which has already been discussed to death and the massive ( not large ) majority is against it on Global and CN servers

[keen shell]

is this correct?

[wraith stag]

I can't read that xD

[keen shell]

it was unanswered here, the answer is no

[wraith stag]

Oh the ironic thing is

I already went over this before

[keen shell]

but this only touches on friend trading

[wraith stag]

Nope

It's general trading

All the cons still fit

[vestal agate]

Does not work

[wraith stag]

except for like one

[wraith stag]

If what you wanted to do was abuse alts to get more focus, then no that's also thankfully not possible outside of food / potions ( non progression stuff )

[vestal agate]

You can take out 50 common materials from homestead storage a day

And that’s like limited to alchemy and culinary basic materials

The best use I’ve got for it is getting 100 boiled water per day

[keen shell]

like lifeskill materials gathered and crafted using focus, same for alchemy, or even materials for furn dye should still be be tradable, even if with only the condition is, ONLY USED TO CRAFT HOMESTEAD STUFF. Now you can say "but Marshmallow, wouldn't that mean people will no longer buy these materials on the marketboard to make homestead stuff if you can get them on alt instead", I'd say. That would be correct. HOWEVER, one character cannot reasonably juggle both progression crafts and life skill mats IN ORDER to craft the non-focus homestead items

If anything, if they add trading, they can simply add a limit on how much can be traded. Kinda of like how maids work in BDO

[wraith stag]

You can already do dye by just crafting it and dye it on your alt... then place it in the homestead

So that doesn't work

[keen shell]

which dye?

furniture dye or clothing dye?

[vestal agate]

you can’t dye homestead furniture

[wraith stag]

Oh, I don't do homestead stuff so I wouldn't know but I know friends who craft stuff on alts to put it in their homestead because they are in the shared homestead system.

[vestal agate]

Yah you can do that

[wraith stag]

So that's essentially what marsh is suggesting, already possible technically lol

As long as it's non progression stuff you should already be fine

Maybe you can find some nuances here and there but it's essentially just "can trade non progression" ( dye for clothes is an exception )

Mixing Agent

[keen shell]

I mean, what is really frustrating that if I wanna keep up the pace, even with reclaim, I have to use focus for two different ends. I have to use focus to craft, I have to use focus to gather, MEANING, all time spent gathering is not time spent crafting, and all time crafting is not spend gathering

[wraith stag]

Cons to letting you trade between characters

• It would make alt farming essentially mandatory and drive away casual players
• It would make you feel forced to alt farm for more daily focus / keys etc.
• There's no reason to play multiple characters since you can unlock other classes on the same character
• It would massively upset the whales who already spent money to get certain things
• China would crash out extremely hard calling this a bait and switch
• It would be easily exploited with people doing RMT selling things for $$$
• It creates a huge gap between people who no life the game and alienates the entire casual playerbase
• Said casual players are already crying about "gatekeeping" with low AS requirements
• Honestly it's not even realistic due to CN gaming laws

[keen shell]

If I wanna get tons of DPS potions, guess what, I need to gather alchemy materials, the DPS potions require focus to craft.

[wraith stag]

Just

[keen shell]

But what if I need gems?

[wraith stag]

get the potions off ur alt??

I still don't see the point

[keen shell]

you said 15 per week, thats a tiny ammount ngl

[wraith stag]

You run that many M5 / Raids?

[keen shell]

Maybe I'm used to having 1k potions on me at any given moment when I go ALL IN on PvE

[wraith stag]

Sounds like a leviathan

I mean, you can still buy 1k healing potions lol

[keen shell]

I always keep at least 1k BIS DPS buff potions, and 1k of bis food

[wraith stag]

You just can't walk around buffed 24/7 unless whale, and I mean there's not even much of a point to do that anyway

But yeah, TLDR

[keen shell]

meanwhile in BDO, its 50

[wraith stag]

You can already trade some things between alts, the liklihood of them adding any large progression related items is infinitesimally low, the massive majority of players are against it and many people including myself would literally uninstall if it became an alt farming game for progression.