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enough to easily skip mech in m4
so when i tested both, granted it was with t3 and t5 tina
TC was fine
still dps gain
o yeah for sure
but i was talking about last season testing
example just this season XD
last season you were stuck behind thundercut's long cast
if you tested on dummy it's
not very accurate
o i didnt do dummy
okay just making sure
tested in light nm with same team over and over
was the best place for me consistently
dummy is like 1.5x of boost to thundercut dmg
dragons are
2x damage to thundercut
o
swear i was getting more than 5
ill take off X4 or see if i can find any footage
99% sure i got more than 5 consistently
i mean its probably best to tell you to just
record standing in front of the dummy
and record stainding in the back of the dummy
and look at the damage differentials / ticks
the back is the intended interaction
the front is the "intended' interaction
dummy hitbox didn't feel the same as enemies in masters
idk tbh i can't really tell you
there's some weird exceptions that cause bosses to tick 2x thundercuts
it definitely happens
like being stuck on wall
boss wasnt stuck against a wall though :thonk:
I think the hitbox for DoD boss is too large
Serpent is def too large
ill do shrine or soundless
or cage
i got 6 and 7 on cage boss
ya if you dodge back before using it on most of those bosses
u get 1-2 more hits sometimes more
im under the impression that distance doesnt matter
and its the angle that contacts the hitbox
otherwise you'd be able to hit the dummy more times at a distance
Can i get your kitten?
but
this is a good chance for me to make you
a follower of the divine goose
also often called the golden goose
free to play op lifebind that has T3 tina and high dps
also sometimes plays disso
Kitten has been spotted
lifebind ftw
preparing stellar cores
LMAOO
wait til u see disso!!
I need someone that can grab my hand and say, don't worry my little iaido, removing all your cds should help (winks at me) then i go up on the chart
TRAITOR
HAHAHAHAAH
LMFAO
removes cd on revival phase
do i need to do m2-m5 in order? or can be pulled by team leader?
It can be
Once u cleared last u also can put it
But do m1, or no first reward for u
if i was a staff member i would mod abuse and pin this
Just imagine, losing your volt, your imagines, all because u instantly got oneshoted by fault of the tank losing aggro
Then u got your ass spanked by a golden tina
just making sure
this is all while u are dead right
being spanked by the golden tina?
because i would insta p
Please revive first
important part
very
if not will be more sad than the moment u fly to the core of the wbc robot and he smashes the floor
does anybody know which purple stat is better?
Hello Global players, i want to ask something, is T0 Brigand Leader still good in season 2 as Concerto? Or better T0 Basiliks?
generally atk % beats boss dmg
but then this is a higher atk %
right one better for su-
wait
why is ur 140 weapon
max perfection
Veno and Basilisk > Brigand Leader
huge dps loss unless whale
compared to reforging gear
and keeping 120 weapon
o-o
u could get 2 140 gear to 100 perfection
or 1 weapon
and weapon gives the same amount of illusion score as the other
so ur just making urself weaker
weapon should be last unless its 160 when you can rush it to 170
but isnt the crit stat are higher than lv120?
so for raid gear should i get it for armor helmet boots and pants?
or armor helmet and 2 bracelet
kinda cooked since i put gold sigil on that lv140 weapon
hurt me a bit to dismantle 
o rip if u dont have many extras ( depends on how much u grind ) u could keep it
but then again
its 2.5% vs 3.5% anyway
and the 3.5% atk is better
but technically you could just use it as a "will upgrade to red weapon in 10~ days"
The only moment u only max weapon first its 160 wp
Because u can turn it same day to 170 as what i heard
If not, always gear, u win more stats + illusion
Keep it, its just u are a little behind the first week or 2 weeks
But i guess its fine
Technically a kiddney solves this problems
always 100 perfection, without worries
LOL
i didnt lie
U have a cheaper option playing goonstrike and doing the same dmg as ocean
There are many things I'd rather do
than play that thing
Quitting the game
Jumping off a cliff
Learning the way its not for all
Maybe we can call it... IAIceberg
how to fight the stimen F40 fox?
for reason I dont know, the melee dps on the party I was on keep dying every 10~20s
they dont have to stack the puddle and should be fine if they can just put away from the boss
but just dont stack the puddle cuz healer prob gonna have problem healing the incoming dmg of 2 or more
what was actual recommended score for m5 instead of 37k 1600 IS?
i remember same bs previous season but it was some kind of buff right?
which m5 easiest?
yeah 37K's def way short if the party avg is that, M5 clear that isn't going to be a super duper miserable experience is 40-41K AS, >1900 IS
easiest I've heard are Nappo and maybe Shrine
Those numbers do not fit the actual M5 difficulty, like in S1, so ye the only option is spend or wait next reset for more reforge stones to increase the score and reach 40K minimum (for dps)
if you're doing all the weeklies/dailies available as a F2P, you should have your first raid piece by next week (and next week should also be able to tackle M4 which gets you 1800 MS, which gives you enough raid gear currency to get the 2-set bonus)
Yeah Im still at that range but my Illusion Strength is at the 1700 Mark, and Iโm still wearing 120-140 Gear as an F2P player
I didnโt have enough of the Shards for the New Raid gear Yet
Don't sweat the AS requirement too much for M5, even for a DPS
there's so much difference between someone on auto mode and someone that knows what his class does
The majority of the playerbase don't perform because they don't bother playing
Once seen cant be unseen - is there an evil rat boss in the future?
Will there be a event that is kinda pvp before season 2?
Why isn't Dorothy in the Valentines Fate draw? >:T
Since yesterday having stability issues on the steam version. Higher lag, more connections lost, and outright game hanging. Anyone else experiencing the same? Also, this is happening more frequently now too.
You at a spot where theres gonna be like a huge amount of people and even though you arent displaying them they still affect the server response times in that area.
I get the game hanging too in areas where theres alot of constant animations like afk areas and such.
I think like any game the more patches released the worse the optimisation becomes ime atleast.
, just added here https://bpevents.poofcakes.com/cosmetics#monthly-card
Well yah. I know. It's been an issue since release (but no to this extent ... FWIW, the boss chest didn't spawn either for me and I waited 5 minutes after), but I was more concerned about my steam client causing/experiencing more issues since yesterday. Others on the launcher version aren't having those issues.
try to disable steam overlay maybe then 
I'll try that sure.
Im wondering how the hell i fell so far behind in As, im seeing average 39-40K+ Needed for M4-M5 and im just abit under 37k. Pretty sure i didnt miss anything.
Did everyone buy 140 stones to max perfection or what?
Where I can find this shop ?
Most F2P/Dolphins in my guild are around 37-38. Psychoscope is huge score bonuses are you Season Level 60 yet? You should be today even if you haven't grinded out a single AFK session.
Oh thank you
That's really crazy. I'm nowhere near maxed out on an Icicle build (don't even have one of my skills at T6) and hit 37.5 today.
maxed stone ect
I havent maxed all skills to T6 because theres no reason other than fake As i guess
Depends. If your DPS is around 250-300k, then you're fine with ur GS. But I guess ppl are probably gatekeeping you now because of AS.
Im iaido so its been a struggle because of crit - only skills that arent T6 are ones i dont use or my iframe skill.
My R skill can do 2.5m or 200-300k - its cooked.
fwiw, if see a stormblade with 35-37k score I add anyway to my party cuz I'm aware their output doesn't always match their AS.
Moonstrike can put out with low As but i dont think Iaido can :/
Probably get ur skills to T6, even the ones that don't matter that much I guess. Also what are your imagines and modules.
They impact score and output too.
Modules have been a struggle for me ... shitty drops lol.
Oh and finally embeds.
T4 chief ans T1 Rorola - both on verge of being upped.
Modules suck yea - 70 effects 6 elite 6 crit focus
Even if you don't have maxed out gear, it helps a lot to put even lower level embeds on.
I'm embedding on shitty gear - even if I don't have the perfect statline.
Every little bit adds up.
Im about hald embedded due to not having the 1.5% or the 2% stat
Yah, I'm not concerning myself with that yet.
I'm embedding regardless. Not the highest level ones, but the easier to acquire ones.
They're cheap in the trading center so you can replace.
I think it's a 1-2% increase with/without per embed (based on minor dummy testing).
I don't do math, but I did test embed vs non-embed gear.
some are just +15 agi and ednurance though
or +20 element
47.12% crit i could prob get it to 50% with a few rerolls and the remaining embeds maybe
25 agi better than +20 element i wonder
Was trying to save all luno to work on the imagines too as i didnt give them enough attention in S1
gained about 500 from the embeds
will we ever get more costumes available in meow shop? do we have the same pool as cn?
meow shop?
Yeh meow - member
I mean ofcourse were going to get more premium skins? Wdym? :p
what does cn have rn in meow premium
bump
Its an event shop no doubt - one we dont have yet.
Were getting another "roguelike" thingy
I wonder if it will be a one-class-show again
Lv140 gear chest :[
thanks!
when we do the lv 150 raid gear we lose the embed on it?
breakthroughs apparently dont lose embeds
but we will get 160 gear soonish that will need new
3 weeks i think
Infinite stamina in asterleeds fireworks event :p
Seems theres a roof xD
One thing in this game thats actually REALLY fun and they dont push it enough in the game is being able to fly from up high and speed around xD
there was always infinite stamina in asterleeds
for now no new ones
since like 3 banners in cn
we do have access to the shop it self
4 weeks 3 days
breakthrough doesnt lose sigils yes, crafting will though
I will spend some purple or yellow sigil i guess

should be using gold yes
you get more than enough for us bis 140/160 gear
hoarding them is pointless
Yep i have a lot with a little bit of farming
its one weekly guaranteed gold sigil from sigil exchange shop
and we are in s2 till june
Plus some drops
Yes time to use purple and yellowss pump it up the gs

@umbral lintel Could swear i run out parkouring :/
^
Not in Asterleeds.
Hiya I was wondering if anyone was still doing mentoring for the game
I played for a while at launch until lv60 and I'm just getting back into things again now๐ ๐
Define mentoring!
Also welcome back :D
Uhmmm
Chatting about the game (and other weeb stuff if you'd like :DD), being poked and probably bothered in dms until im sorta caught up on things, maaaybe the occasional carry

Thank uuu
I can help if you have any questions with anything o: what class do you play?
what mas m3 max score?
M1: 100
M2: 183
M3: 258
M4: 316
M5: 375
M6: 425
M7: 466
M8: 500
M9: 516
M10: 533
M11: 550
M12: 566
M13: 583
M14: 600
M15: 616
M16: 633
M17: 650
M18: 666
M19: 683
M20: 700
Kithi doesn't sleep :p
I'll dm u if that's ok I don't wanna flood this chat ๐ญ ๐ญ
Itโs impressive
sure i dont mind but thats also what this chat is for HAHAHAHA
(cast x to doubt)
Kithi stays awake to check her kitten not being robbed by a ocean player
@quaint ermine can you be my tina kitten
send top up for Tina
i miss the times when rein was a lb
npc golds are just pain to level x-x
It really is
Thatโs why I swapped off of LB LMFAOOAOA
Chief 5 was so much easier to get

game is so stingy
better start consigning luno to orbs ๐
that requires money
oh right. you dont sell stuff 
I can afford to indulge in the occasional cosmetic but... whaling for imagines or ocean weapon is.. Nope.
I don't have anything worth selling.. X'D
You sell bound luno for orbs ingame via the trade and then buy the mats from the orb store. It generally works out around the same.
not bound luno
As I said.. I don't have anything worth selling. lol.
Hey Kim, did anyone get back to you with this? ๐ฎ Seems like our next event shop?
everytime i talk about the currency i get it wrong
monday
No one replied so I don't know but seems like next event
I replied not far below...
260 mats required is insane. That's 100k rose orbs. Like $1400.. just for the mats. Still need the Tina copies too.
Oh thanks
so yeah. next event is the rogue like mode yall love so much
Wish it was like actually 9 billion percent actually more like a roguelike :/
๐ I realized this cause I hoarded enough rubies and wish coins to M5 a human imagine.. just to know that I'll have to farm for half a year's worth of stimen's vault for materials lol
Hi guys. Floor 40th shows that requires 40+ k AS. Still is doable? Does any one knows the bosses floor 35 and 40?
that new event shop looks juicey though!
Full of things that we dont understand yet >_>
I like those pink stones.. I can get my weapon skin..
[I really like those skins/outfits in Pioneer.. ]
35 flamehorn
40 crimson fox
perfectly doable if you're not 40k
IS more important here
We almost did it last night with only 2 of the 5 near 40k
I don't know exact scores but mine was like 35.5k, our tank was just below me, and we had a beatmaster that I don't know but I think they're around same.
Then a big DPS who is probably 39-40k and another beatmaster about that level. :x
3 healers. 2 beatmaster + one LB.
got it down to ... like 7%?
total group dps needs to be around 1.25 million to clear 40
If Iaido R crit for 2.5m everytime.......
you swap to dps? lifebind is the cheapest spec to gear up this season (tina3, thats it) and you get to play anywhere
tanks and dps have it pretty rough rn
tina 3 isn't cheap T_T
thats more expensive than a t5 sr
if you play since season 1 not really
I have t3 Tina as a support playing since day 1
It is possible as f2p, I'm so f2p sometimes I don't have monthly when no one donates

I've been a verdant since day 1. It's just pain to do human imagines.
that requires money or things worth selling [which I do not have XD]
U have to be decently aggressive I did genshin style map clears on top
If ppl r familiar that's just taking the map site and legit opening every chest
Yea basically its not free, u need to work for it but it's possible
Yeh I'm not interested in grinding life skills for small amounts of luno.
I did open every chest I could.. even went with an interactive map to get almost all of them.
Yea hence possible but I wouldn't consider it free
luno from life skills add up
Only if you grind it.
Lumo is from life skills yep always made sure to min max what I can sell
No need to level life skills
grind it? what do you use focus on
Just focus daily
I sold gems in S1 but never got enough to make it 'worth' it
Yea I nvr did a single 0 focus level
S1 gems into refines, s2 same diff, a lot of hidden market but that's all like well u r trading time for lack of money
So t3 possible most def, u gotta work for it no free lunch
ik im slightly sad
F2P SOMETIMES KEKW
hard life
most of my stuff times out in TC. So it's kind of pointless for me. [with the selling floor and the oldest selling first... ]
Only valuable thigns to sell are meow cards and imagine mats.
I totally couldโve had
Tina M3
If I didnโt swap

I dismantled 2 Tinaโs for chief

any idea how to fix this hypersenstivity of camera when played with a controller?
tried to tweak camera settings but it doesn't seem to fix it
you can do what I did, sell gems, skill books, and imagines
I do as much as I can. Most of it times out without being bought.
yeah, i usually put it back up a second time, and if no bite, I lower the price slightly. Depends on the inventory
I always put it at lowest price. So lowering the price usually isn't an option.
We did Floor 40 with 37-38k and healer at 33k
wdym 40k
I put the median price
Most of the time there's already a mass of stuff at low price. Which makes it pointless to price it higher.
oh okay
i see the problem
When selling things in the game, you wanna farm materials that are in low quantity
never sell stuff that has a lot of quantity
Like when it comes to skill books, the books for classes nobody plays, or healers, can be sold for higher
Back in S1, it was the opposite
I don't get a lot of unbound skill books ^^ definitely not enough to sell for much
yea its true, selling items at lowest is nearly impossible now
My glorious king Goose sama has T3 Tina and F2P
yeh. it's grindable but not cheap either way.
stuck with a ton of useless s1/s2 items
Yeah, you gotta aim for items that are in low quantity, then you can sell it for an increased price
i got my 5 meowlux gold tickets that way
i figure you already maxed out your f2p imagines right, you can also sell imagines from purples
no one ever bought any of my purple imagines. I tried so many times lol
yea thats if you are target farming drops to sell but most people arent doing that now, especially when they are using keys for sigils
gave up and just broke them down.
were they popular f2p imagines?
skillbooks at rock bottom now anyway and some not even selling
imagine wills really dont sell
purple imagine wills don't sell for s... x-x with few exceptions.
if its like Muku Chief + Brigaind, F2P imagines they can sell
but if its like obsecure imagines, they wont
those are golds x-x
I meant Muku Scout
100% of mine sell
:unaware:
I used my Muku Scouts.
Muku Scout seems overstocked rn
in s1 they sold when keys were best used for either upgrade mat or the will to sell, but now youre spending keys for sigils
its just a hole really
You should sell Shadow Commander, Boar Tyrant, Brig Scout, Blackfire Foxen and hmm possibly Emerald Caphras, and hmm, thats about it
50 in quantity is the sweet spot, its not too much, but just enough to get a sell within a week or so
possibly a tiny bit over the listing price
because even though thats the case, these are f2p imagines that new players still need
i wish i could check my marketplace history so i can better recommend
hmm, it seems the market is trash, cheer up treats might be the bis, can anyone confirm?
I just use my free sigils 
Sigils, Cheer up treats, Reforge stones, hmm what else Wills (imagines), then actual imagines,
the amount of apples that takes for cheer up

A week worth of Azure Fruit grinding for a measely 211,680 Luno at minimum
Moss shards are a guaranteed sell, but getting them is kinda...
buying grass to craft and sell starforge pot is not bad rn either with new refine open, also 200k
question, I have a 5 tier Muku Scout and a 5 tier Brig Scout, what tier Foxen and Rola is comparable ?
to where i can swap either of them out
for falcon?
T3
Not even remotely close
Not unless you have tons of bound apples
Note: Specifically bound
ooof
F
i think even t1 rorola beats out both
fox closer to t2/t3
why?
hmm when i had rorola 2 on falcon it was definitely already better than muku scout
In a short fight where cooldowns don't come into play I can see that
im Wildpack
i should have led with my class and spec
Taken from the marksman guide for example.
All the testing I have seen points to you needing T3 to justify it over T5 Scout
T1/T2 is a sidegrade, aka on par or comparable / slightly weaker
And T3 is the point where you can call it "better"
I know for a fact my T1 Rorola is significantly worse
link to guide? message me pls
imma read it after i come back home, gotta head out
yea t1 aint great , lets just go with only use gold imagine from t3 onward
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my only advice to you is that you should probably just swap to falconry
I CONCUR
And what u think about t4
if you're yoloing it on WP, @tidal mist is a WP-lifer and can probably guide you on your build for this season
I think you should give me yours
me watching someone casually buy flier/rorola 5 because they switched to SB MS that day
I don't want it, i prefer rorola t5, its annoying having muku and rorola and they have separate cds
hey does anyone know how to use the 2p scooter mount, trying to get my friend to hop in here and no interactable show up
gotcha, thank you
Literally iaido is hated - all M4 party rejected or ignored. Make my own party that takes an hour and get people who cant form a sentence >_>
I mean
There's no way to tell which Stormblade is applying
Were you sent here for some GOONSTRIKE PROPAGANDA?
Its been days - i dont know why im still playing because what i want to do i cant get into xD
Maybe it's a time zone thing? It was easy for me to find m4's o-o
What's your rating / master score
maybe iaido hate is so strong they dont even want to risk allowing one into the party even if it could be a goonstike potentially
That's how I feel about goonstrikes
Iv'e tried different times of the day - 37.5 1082
I hate them so much every time I see a stormblade apply I am afraid
o 37.5 is kinda low that's probably what it is more than anything
How exactly is it low though? :/
Unless i bought reforge stones or whales on refines which dont actually do much to As? :/
Full 140 - used all the reforge stones i can obtain with stats i need + alot of subs + embeds + Muku chief 3 Rorola 1
Yeh i did 140 wep early, crafted it.
I didnt max the reforge on it and every 140 piece was min 30 to be stronger than prev
Yeah and that's the problem
That's a HUGE dps loss
Because instead of focusing on maxing one piece to actually see improvements
All that does is make it on par
effectively wasting the reforge stones
Summary Lv140 Reforge Stones
Week 1: 190-205
Week 2: 193-209 (383-414)
Week 3: 136-153 (519-567)
Week 4: 139-157 (658-724)
Week 5: 142-161 (800-885)
Week 6: 145-165 (945-1050)
You need 18 reforge stones (9 attempts) to make a Lv140 gear piece match a Lv120 with 100/100. You need 66 reforge stones (33 attempts) to reach 100/100 on a Lv140 gear piece. Double the stones for the Weapon (same attempts)
after 30 the item is stronger than the previous in every way
Again
Massive DPS loss
Because no it's not lol
Let me make it easier to understand, say you have 100 base stat
You then spend 200 reforge stones to get every 140 gear to be on par with or slightly better than your 120 gear
Now you have 110 base stat
You barely got any stronger because everything is low perfection
vs
Maxing a single equipment to 100 perfection
now it's way stronger than the 120
And have 200 base stat
TLDR: you basically still in 120 gear lol
When you put 140 to 30 perfection it shows a total increase in all stats on the item tho? :/
vs 120 maxed
And I'm saying that instead of having an extremely slight increase
You could have maxed something to 100 perfection
and seen a large increase
So you are basically 120 gear still levels of strength
Because you swapped to 140 way too early
do the stat increase get larger the higher the perfection or every single reforge stone gives the exact same amount of increase?
because putting in one or spreading should equal the same?
or you saying 80-100 perf gives more stat than 0-30
:kekhands:
lmfaooo
put it this way
lets say u spent 30 reforge stones on a brand new 140 piece and now all the stats on it are slightly better than ur old 120 piece
great
but what if you had another 140 piece that already had 30 reforge stones on it?
lets say ur 120 piece is worth 20 stones
if u spent ur 30 on that other 140 piece instead, youd have an effective 40 stones that increase ur stats rather than only 20
this is all like random numbers but thats the gist
Yeah, you spend 18 reforge stones x12 to "match" your 120 gear
So instead of actually seeing any gains, you just wasted 216 reforge stones to get literally nothing
While if you funneled resources into a single piece you'd actually be seeing gains
That's why I said you are basically in 120 gear still
I'm fully f2p btw. But I think I'll be fine, I'll be on hiatus again after two days. But im just saving the guide for when I come back mid-March when we get the Frost Mage set
But as for this, the problem is more likely the 37.5k rating, you should be around 38 - 39k F2P right now before getting raid gear.
There are a few F2P in my guild at 40k rating already
also thats just unlucky
If you still have your 120 gear I'd recommend swapping back to that then optimize your reforge stones if it's not BIS 140 pieces already
made my own party as 37k and it was kinda light m4 clears
ooo i see maybe bad time then
M4 clears that i got went great
i did too but i was 38k
me personally if u know ur dmg isnt lacking despite ur as then j make ur own
my first raid piece is maxed perf - i can see how the initial investment to equal a 120 piece can be seen as a waste if your going for the higher as now.
Yeah but it's not just higher AS but higher DPS too
If you have good pieces though don't bother refarming
You will be a bit weaker for a while
But it will fix itself in a week or 2
Weird how i didnt really noyice this at any of the other upgrade stages until now
Was always on par with most players that i saw and demands in chat/pf
Maybe overgeared? XD
I know you can clear M4's with a good team of min maxed 37ks but
Most people I see ask for 38-39k range
yeaaaa
Yeah just stick with mages and archers ftw its not evern about as xD
also clear m4s is different from doing perfect runs
TRUE i just assumed perfect runs was the default
Iaido is the top DPS in my heart uwu
Its my fauilt, i saw the warning saying iaido is whale class only or its poop. Still went with it all this time xD
This is not a thing
This was never a thing
LOL
Need the 60% crit and T5 imagines from day 1 or nope >_>
Uh... no
You only "need" 55% crit which you should easily have by now
And you don't need "T5 Imagines"
Iaido still does very good damage F2P
And it doesn't benefit much from whaling either
I'd actually say it's one of the weaker classes to whale on
never even seen 600k ingame from spenders why you lying xD
I'm 38k rating
If that's whale then you are a whale too
because you'd be 38k if you didn't mess up reforge stones..
and that R just almost never hits the jackpot and lands like 300k to 1m most of the time >_>
But the actual spenders
are way higher than 600k
An Icicle in my M5 clear did over 1m dps
lol...
Slightly exaggerated it wasn't "over" 1m at the end but close
(me)
There are people with 45k rating too
the heck do u mean 600k is whale LOL
My raid run had 4 icicles all over 42k
FM oceans are reaping the benefits of icicle being meta, huh
yeah LOL
I've been holding off on ocean for S2, mostly because I wanna know what S3's new class is
well it's heavily rumored
yaaaa
mostly on the main guy's comment
but S3's less than a month in CN
so why speculate when we'll know by this point next month
21 days iirc
*my main worry is what if they add twin striker and the class actually sucks lol
then we play it anyway if its fun
fun all that matters uwu
if im weakest dps ill just get @storm badge to carry me
in a game like BPSR where being bad isn't necessarily a gate to getting all the unlockable content
sucking likely includes being unfun lmao
like really, just knowing the mechs and not completely giving 0 shits about one's build is enough to eventually get everything lol
Wait until you get to do NM 2nd raid
LOL
I'd like to see if your opinion changes
my favorite comment from a CN streamer was
"what a f2p friendly raid"
"better off skipping the 2nd and doing the 3rd raid"
ngl i dont think a team of full f2p can clear it on release
let alone casuals having a chance to clear it without being carried
so it's just dark dragon on steroids
Bone dragon was the easiest dragon of s1 unironically
but mechanically say it's like
100x harder than that?
100x??
with a huge dps check too
I'm quitting the game
LOL NOOOO
Rumor is we will get nerfed version
but if we don't
GG
find an icicle whale
I was going to come here and ask what to do after getting boosted to level 60
but you've convinced me that it's just over for me
LMAO NOOO
ITS OKAY UR A HEALER
if this game gets popular, I'll just buy an account
Kithi, shame on you.

I know golem NM was notoriously overturned, but on the flip side casuals didn't quite always get a clear on S1 NM release either
not unless they got a carry or accepted a lengthy jail sentence
I really like the golem one ...
The Capra one I have no idea what's going on for 99% of it.
golem feels easy because normal has ~40% of NM's assignments
2 instead of 4 crystals, number of flowers to kill, spots to sit in to avoid being thrown off the edge etc
die
OMG ITS MY CARRY
And like
you kill it during its travel phase
to skip most of the nonsense
LOL
my group didn't, but the fact that my understrength group only needed 3 tries is pretty indicative of the height of the floor to get in
daaaang
did they retune the golem after or are we gonna get diddy'd by big G when we get NM
i love how its like
normal mode: easiest thing ever
hard mode: hardest raid
nightmare mode: free trip to hell
tbqh, if S3 new class is legit and hard becomes irritating enough i might break and just get ocean now to join a whale hard raid
OMG FUND ME ONE TOO
ngl idk if it got nerfed or not / what version we are getting LOL
im just going to hide behind the icicles
no you're cursed, the first time I run shrine with you we get a bear attack
I thought we messed up a pull at first before realizing the model wasn't one I saw in the dungeon before
opposite experience of the RNG assassin encounter in soundless where it gave us the bump needed to get good enough M4 score
tysm
is there some cap on the renewal seals from the colorflare trial?
100
You still get 3 for the first completion of every day though
oh yarm
<@&1372169443110813706> Get `em
What's everyone doing with their starforge crystal lv1/2?
._. I have so many unbounded ones and I'm not able to sell them
You can convert them to lvl 3s
And thatโs about it
buy it on an alt
you can also try to sell it during peak hours (i.e. when people get off work or on the weekends)
and just pray that some dumb player buys it
Oldest listed items sell first
It becomes bounded when converted right?
yeah but if you sell at like 6 pm
maybe it sells at like 5:59 pm the next day

Yeah Iโve been trying this but no luck
Probably? Not sure. Never tested
I had 3 starforged level 1s like 10 days ago
and now after selling 1, I have 5 of them

I have 26x lv2 and 14x lv1
Unstable still drops them lol
Game pretty stingy about giving stuff you actually need
are there any infos about s3 ๐ ?
Probably not for a few more weeks
S3 starts in mid march for China I think
3 weeks from now
so a lotta new info to be gotten for when we get it . . . 3 months later. lol
June 5
RLY?!
yeah Global launched ~2.5-3 months behind CN
kk ty
for the achievement would this count as 15 or just 1?
What does error 154140713 mean?
It would count as 15, but make sure you're the one claiming them
If someone in your homestead claims them, it'll go toward their achievement and not yours
if u need it quick, u can queue up ur crafting on multiple slot
and it will make the achievement a guarantee (?)
Yeh I'm gonna do that now that I verified.. didn't want to waste all those materials if it doesn't count.
Guys is there a way to get better ping to play? Since s2 started i was getting issues with high ms making my experience in game being awful
Ever tried using routing services like exitlag?
Yeah
Other than that. I donโt think you can get better ping besides moving to where the servers are located lol
Or trying a different ISP to check if their routing is better than the one you're using right now
Anyone know how many more event Vault tix will be given out?
I donโt think anymore is gonna be given out
Check back again tomorrow to see if a new quest drops 
why do i have to download 30 gb again, was there another big update after the dream stuff?
Sell to alt
its sad that you cant dismantle activated images -.-
Like as in sell it at an odd time and time it the next day?
ig we have to manually check the time since they removed the trading center timer
I haven't needed to sell it at an odd time
Just sell it and set a 23 hour 59 minute 55 second timer
Then buy it when times up
works every time
Iโll give it a shot! Thanks!
Convert them
I would but itโs not worth it for me. I donโt spend any focus on my refinements and just sell everything for unbound lunos
- I have issues.
It's not worth it if it's unbound either
You can make a ton of luno off it
Not selling it is akin to buying it
No wonder.. I kept seeing the quantity drop of those items but was never able to sell lol
It's just us selling stuff to our alts
I've made like, 1m luno just off starforges
wow LOL
True, it would be kithi ๐คฃ. Mentored 60+ players in s1 - this is pocket change in comparison ahah
didnt think of that, will try tonight ig thx for the tip

Hi any new map for afk farm?
Question, is it better to use focus to directly make refinement mats, or sell ore I mined with focus and then buy refinement mats?
i wouldnt buy nor make the mats
but if you already have 2 t5 gold imagines, you can do either i g
New players shouldnt be touching refine
Old players shouldnt be touching refine either
now whales
whales can touch refine
uwu
whales can touch everything
If u have luno buy some refinements, if you have focus make some refinements
aren't refines a bulk of your AS
whales can touch mme if they give me ocean weapon uwu
what
refines
barely matter for AS
refines are like miniscule
guess i'm hoarding luno then, thx
What class do ya play?
started moonstrike, got omega bored, used the free respec event into smite, got bored again, rerolled into lifebind, life is good
As a Lifebind ( which ironically is the best non tank class to roll as a new player ) all you really need to focus on is getting Tina as high as you can really.
You can do M5 / Stimen 40 with 33-34k rating if good enough
I'd rather a 30k Lifebind with T3 Tina over a 50k lifebind without Tina
unless the lifebind can cc disso and solo HAHAHAHA
yeah, m5 done, 2 set pieces done, stimen 40 done
nicee
I take pride in not touching grass
the only way you could become more based is if you became a follower of goose
who's goose
goose is still around?
What kind of shady business is this? Dev won't even let us sell our Starforge crystals for min price because they are selling theirs for cheaper
that does pose a question, I shouldn't spend luno on refinement mats, and I should focus everything on Tina, what do I even spend the luno on? Buying and dismantling cheap legendary wills seems like a waste of resources, and I've never seen actual legendary mats up for sale?
the only other thing I can think of is exchaning luno for rose orbs, but that also feels like a bad move
@west quarry
super duper op lifebind that can also dps
praise the goose
I SITLL HAVE RECEIPTS OF UR DPS
There's alot of problems with the statement you made here.
I have a question for a mid-spender. If i have 30k orbs what should i prioritise to best cost/effecient output? I am a tank with 39.5k CP // got Tina at 0 currently, Venu 0, Tempest and frost at T3. Oceans too far and expensive specially since i started last week of S1 and didnt raid till S2. Any recommendations? I also play lifebinder and frost mage as dps in my spare time whenever its needed by guild.
ngl so many people feel this way cuz devs didnt make how pricing works very clear in game lol
Ironically it's not a bad move if you know what you are doing, I did it in Season 1 for my Muku Chief 
this is my score as lifebind to give some general idea how low u can be but still survive, i did all m5s with this
True
yea im not a lifebind im a FKING CONCERTO
dont copy my stats

i build as concerto
write that down
if u rly are lb just follow maxroll
TEMPEST AND FROST T3?!
Yup as SK its for the cool down reduction
thats like 20 seconds saved. beeg!

this tells u how to correctly gear as a real lifebind, my main is concerto tho so my gear is not correct
think I'm following pretty well

If there is a direction to go for would be great or should i just save them orbs / luno ? spend on cosmetics xD
i mean ur more gear than me just looking
Yeah all you need is to focus on Tina ngl
if u wanna invest in tina yea
like can u keep "bloating" AS sure but 
honestly theres just better places to put ur luno
I would love to but, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Tina it is then , after would be oceans if i can ever afford to go that route?
Depends if you are a tank that can deal damage ( HG ) and have the imagines to enable that or not.
You honestly play too many classes ( Tank / Heal / Icicle ) so that makes it more difficult to recommend any singular investment imo.
If your guild doesn't have many people with high ranking Tina, you could just go for T3 Tina which boosts your heal and tank.
My glorious Goose is the most geared lifebind on global
:prayge:
My main is a tank tbh, waiting on whats coming to decide if i want to continue as SK or switch to HG for oceans
but i guess for most specs / roles Tina is a solid investment as of now?
so will try to get that to T3
THERES SOMETHING SUSGE HERE
insane damage
IKR
whatever are you talking about
thats what they want us to think
IKR
hey they made hg able to dps
maybe they will add something that converts team healing into damage done
and limit it to 5 targets
at that point lb is so broken the other heals would legit quit if they havent from s2
LOL
I mean there is the goblin shaman imagine, but not enough
Yeah, Tina 3/5 Is massive for many classes including the strongest class this season ( Icicle )
Do you have spare 3k?๐
spare ? Nope. I am selling a kidney for this ๐
Not worth for a game that doesnt even tell you it's roadmap beyond the month
Maybe eos next month
๐
silly warden
Who knows
sometimes in life you need a bad discission or two
we have a 3+ month roadmap
I mean longevity of game
SILLY WARDEN
I've been holding my spending until we see what CN gets for S3
since admittedly a lot of what I WOULD care for the game's future only comes then
Like what
when does S3 release for CN ?
3/13
S3 is still a mystery
twin striker aka dual axe
Devs did confirm new class(es) in s3 though
They said classes but I don't know how to interpret it
EX: release stormblade, have iaido and goonstrike

LOL poor qiqi
I'm just assuming it's one class until mentioned otherwise
I'm interested in the crit variant
If it's fun I will swap
wasn't twin striker held back from release due to them wanting to do a different balance for it
but yes they did say they want to add a class every 2 seasons
and the main guy basically described twin striker as a new class they'd like to add
so from the like 3-4 hints we got, it's TS we get next season
yeaa
This is my personal speculation: random names
Crit Variant - Barbarian: Slow but very big hits, possibly energy based
Speed Variant - Berserker: Fast and nonstop hits, replaces goonstrike because frick goonstrikes
Goonstrike should also be a bottom 3 DPS
no bias here

inb4 TS forces Iaido out of dps instead
has anyone done some math on boss drop rates by any chance?
seems about right yeah
HAHAHAHA
what about legendary mats tho
thats actually something i wish i paid more attention to
well the actual % doesnt matter, just need to know if its rarer than cigils
I've gotten more material drops than sigil drops so far
hm, well, goblin king it is then
Season 3 New Class and hopefully fix certain class or buff class
Concerto is becoming nonexistence class
At this point, as may remove beat peformer and only Lifebind class exist

devs dont know how to balance specs ๐
Hey it could be worse, it could be a DPS smite
Quick question about levels. If i am already capped at 65+ with exp around 2.4mil / 1.2mil .. when they release the new levels would i get 2 levels or 1 level and it resets?

New cap will be 80
Is the Boon Fountain bugged?
Our guild is level 8. We've upgraded everything we can upgrade. The Boon Fountain only gives us the fish meat option.
This is what we get for Yielding Blessing.
It says we should be able to get the plant buff
I think every guild has this issue
is it on march 2?
Concerto is the only class thats lacking they did a good job in s2
is there a way to resize the window of the game without going to settings?
They balanced it well tho. Look, now Concerto and Lifebinds almost do the same thing (ignoring the fact lifebinds leaves a concerto's healing to dust)
They dont do the same thing at all.
Lifebind we actualy want in the party and concerto we dont want at all, ever. unless its to parse and there's already a lb in the pt
As far as I know. A Verdant Oracle's Inspire buffs Int/Agi/Str at a flat stat, while giving a certain % to Crit/Haste/Mastery/Versatility (LB does this at a buffed level)
A Concerto buffs Int/Agi/Str from a certain percent of their Int stat.
Idk what makes you say they're not doing the same thing at all (except that VO Inspire buffs advanced stats and hence why I said almost)
They have the same idea in both being a buffing support class, if you meant that when it comes to doing the same thing i'm sorry and do agree.
My comment was more so meant in how they're not doing the same thing for a team as in importance/value of the buffs given to the rest of the party.
Beatmasters owe it to Verdants for completely running them over in S1
[I do think it should be balanced better tho]
crit/haste boost ftw
Well, I get your point on team value. I was talking about the role itself, both doing party buffs which is why I said they almost do the same thing.
Anyways, it seems like we both interpreted our messages a bit differently.
I'll just leave it to that as I have to sleep soon.
If you have dual classes, which classes are best paired with Marksman?
its Stormblade right? if so, what spec
how do you check that?
oh, i thought you meant base level cup, not the season slumber cap
thx
no that won't change, at least not in season 2
previously seasonal level cap went from 50 to 65, soon to 80 later to 90 and then 100 eventually
and prob in season 3 another level type
Just seen a 42k disoo soloing a Gob chief and did like 10m dmg in 10 seonds or someth xD
Thats wrong. Concerto is still the favourable buffer for a few damage dealers, lifebind only excels at buffing a specific few. Also many whale teams run both lifebind AND concerto for separate buffs
70% crit rate on this disso :p
I agree with running both if going for a funny number in whale parties but to counter, what classes even prefer running with a concerto alone if there's no lifebind in the pt?
As the two meta specs rn are moonstrike & icicle and the latter prefers the stat spread of LB
Lifebind buffs are only better for moon, icicle and skyward
Other's prefer concerto
The first two are the only relevant dps specs in the game atm tho
Every whale is relevant and every dps is relevant, because the game is easy.
Play what u like
only if your a tank
Not saying the others dont have a place or anything right, play what u want and whatnot and u can get all the content out done easily





