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wraith stag
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like uhh

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enough to easily skip mech in m4

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so when i tested both, granted it was with t3 and t5 tina

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TC was fine

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still dps gain

pure nacelle
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this season

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tc is just better

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like no comparison due to cast speed advantage

wraith stag
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o yeah for sure

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but i was talking about last season testing

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example just this season XD

pure nacelle
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last season you were stuck behind thundercut's long cast

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if you tested on dummy it's

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not very accurate

wraith stag
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o i didnt do dummy

pure nacelle
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okay just making sure

wraith stag
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tested in light nm with same team over and over

pure nacelle
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light nm...

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is even worse LOL

wraith stag
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was the best place for me consistently

pure nacelle
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dummy is like 1.5x of boost to thundercut dmg

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dragons are

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2x damage to thundercut

wraith stag
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ofc i tested to dragons

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LMAO

pure nacelle
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yeah im not talking about dragons

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thundercut wins no dice

wraith stag
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o

pure nacelle
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just talking about standard masters ignoring dcv

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where thundercut only hits 5x

wraith stag
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ahhh XD yeah TC was like

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about the same for me but

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wait 5x?

pure nacelle
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5x

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5 waves

wraith stag
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swear i was getting more than 5

pure nacelle
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each hits once

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it should only hit 5x

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on most of the bosses

wraith stag
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ill take off X4 or see if i can find any footage

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99% sure i got more than 5 consistently

pure nacelle
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i mean its probably best to tell you to just

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record standing in front of the dummy

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and record stainding in the back of the dummy

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and look at the damage differentials / ticks

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the back is the intended interaction

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the front is the "intended' interaction

wraith stag
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dummy hitbox didn't feel the same as enemies in masters

pure nacelle
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idk tbh i can't really tell you

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there's some weird exceptions that cause bosses to tick 2x thundercuts

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it definitely happens

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like being stuck on wall

wraith stag
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boss wasnt stuck against a wall though :thonk:

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I think the hitbox for DoD boss is too large

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Serpent is def too large

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ill do shrine or soundless

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or cage

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i got 6 and 7 on cage boss

pure nacelle
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some angles enable a bit more hits i think

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idk

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weird game mechs

wraith stag
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ya if you dodge back before using it on most of those bosses

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u get 1-2 more hits sometimes more

pure nacelle
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im under the impression that distance doesnt matter

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and its the angle that contacts the hitbox

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otherwise you'd be able to hit the dummy more times at a distance

median horizon
wraith stag
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NO

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STAY BACK THEY MINE

wraith stag
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but

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this is a good chance for me to make you

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a follower of the divine goose

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also often called the golden goose

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free to play op lifebind that has T3 tina and high dps

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also sometimes plays disso

wraith stag
median horizon
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Kitten has been spotted

white eagle
median horizon
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preparing stellar cores

wraith stag
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LMAOO

wraith stag
median horizon
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I need someone that can grab my hand and say, don't worry my little iaido, removing all your cds should help (winks at me) then i go up on the chart

white eagle
wraith stag
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HAHAHAHAAH

tropic fog
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do i need to do m2-m5 in order? or can be pulled by team leader?

median horizon
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Once u cleared last u also can put it

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But do m1, or no first reward for u

wraith stag
median horizon
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Just imagine, losing your volt, your imagines, all because u instantly got oneshoted by fault of the tank losing aggro

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Then u got your ass spanked by a golden tina

pure nacelle
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just making sure

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this is all while u are dead right

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being spanked by the golden tina?

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because i would insta p

wraith stag
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LMFAO

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yeah imagine ur dead and u see tina go off

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traumatic

median horizon
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Please revive first

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important part

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very

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if not will be more sad than the moment u fly to the core of the wbc robot and he smashes the floor

placid olive
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does anybody know which purple stat is better?

cursive jolt
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Hello Global players, i want to ask something, is T0 Brigand Leader still good in season 2 as Concerto? Or better T0 Basiliks?

wraith stag
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but then this is a higher atk %

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right one better for su-

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wait

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why is ur 140 weapon

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max perfection

placid olive
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took u long enough to realize lol

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why not

wraith stag
wraith stag
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compared to reforging gear

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and keeping 120 weapon

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o-o

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u could get 2 140 gear to 100 perfection

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or 1 weapon

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and weapon gives the same amount of illusion score as the other

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so ur just making urself weaker

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weapon should be last unless its 160 when you can rush it to 170

placid olive
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but isnt the crit stat are higher than lv120?

wraith stag
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it would be higher on gear too

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EX: ring, charm

placid olive
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so for raid gear should i get it for armor helmet boots and pants?

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or armor helmet and 2 bracelet

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kinda cooked since i put gold sigil on that lv140 weapon

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hurt me a bit to dismantle Wearona

wraith stag
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6 piece 160 gear

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gloves and shoes first

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headgear next ideally

wraith stag
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but then again

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its 2.5% vs 3.5% anyway

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and the 3.5% atk is better

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but technically you could just use it as a "will upgrade to red weapon in 10~ days"

median horizon
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The only moment u only max weapon first its 160 wp

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Because u can turn it same day to 170 as what i heard

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If not, always gear, u win more stats + illusion

placid olive
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ok ill keep that in mind from now on

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thanks hb ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

median horizon
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Keep it, its just u are a little behind the first week or 2 weeks

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But i guess its fine

median horizon
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always 100 perfection, without worries

wraith stag
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LOL

median horizon
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i didnt lie

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U have a cheaper option playing goonstrike and doing the same dmg as ocean

wraith stag
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There are many things I'd rather do

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than play that thing

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Quitting the game

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Jumping off a cliff

median horizon
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Learning the way its not for all

wraith stag
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doing open heart surgery on myself

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not glazing goose

median horizon
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Maybe we can call it... IAIceberg

wraith stag
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redacted before he comes for me

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in case anyone curious

wispy flax
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how to fight the stimen F40 fox?

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for reason I dont know, the melee dps on the party I was on keep dying every 10~20s

cobalt iris
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but just dont stack the puddle cuz healer prob gonna have problem healing the incoming dmg of 2 or more

tropic fog
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what was actual recommended score for m5 instead of 37k 1600 IS?

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i remember same bs previous season but it was some kind of buff right?

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which m5 easiest?

soft topaz
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easiest I've heard are Nappo and maybe Shrine

tropic fog
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so i need raid set to complete dung for raid set...

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or ocean, lol

errant sandal
soft topaz
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if you're doing all the weeklies/dailies available as a F2P, you should have your first raid piece by next week (and next week should also be able to tackle M4 which gets you 1800 MS, which gives you enough raid gear currency to get the 2-set bonus)

astral tangle
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Yeah Im still at that range but my Illusion Strength is at the 1700 Mark, and Iโ€™m still wearing 120-140 Gear as an F2P player

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I didnโ€™t have enough of the Shards for the New Raid gear Yet

manic matrix
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Don't sweat the AS requirement too much for M5, even for a DPS

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there's so much difference between someone on auto mode and someone that knows what his class does

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The majority of the playerbase don't perform because they don't bother playing

trail bane
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Once seen cant be unseen - is there an evil rat boss in the future?

cursive jolt
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Will there be a event that is kinda pvp before season 2?

zealous wing
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Why isn't Dorothy in the Valentines Fate draw? >:T

vestal crypt
trail bane
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You at a spot where theres gonna be like a huge amount of people and even though you arent displaying them they still affect the server response times in that area.
I get the game hanging too in areas where theres alot of constant animations like afk areas and such.
I think like any game the more patches released the worse the optimisation becomes ime atleast.

wind quartz
vestal crypt
tropic fog
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try to disable steam overlay maybe then Thinking

vestal crypt
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I'll try that sure.

trail bane
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Im wondering how the hell i fell so far behind in As, im seeing average 39-40K+ Needed for M4-M5 and im just abit under 37k. Pretty sure i didnt miss anything.
Did everyone buy 140 stones to max perfection or what?

crimson violet
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Where I can find this shop ?

vestal crypt
trail bane
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65

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Upgraded factors

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bought everything

crimson violet
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Oh thank you

vestal crypt
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That's really crazy. I'm nowhere near maxed out on an Icicle build (don't even have one of my skills at T6) and hit 37.5 today.

trail bane
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maxed stone ect

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I havent maxed all skills to T6 because theres no reason other than fake As i guess

vestal crypt
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Depends. If your DPS is around 250-300k, then you're fine with ur GS. But I guess ppl are probably gatekeeping you now because of AS.

trail bane
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Im iaido so its been a struggle because of crit - only skills that arent T6 are ones i dont use or my iframe skill.

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My R skill can do 2.5m or 200-300k - its cooked.

vestal crypt
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fwiw, if see a stormblade with 35-37k score I add anyway to my party cuz I'm aware their output doesn't always match their AS.

trail bane
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Moonstrike can put out with low As but i dont think Iaido can :/

vestal crypt
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Probably get ur skills to T6, even the ones that don't matter that much I guess. Also what are your imagines and modules.

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They impact score and output too.

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Modules have been a struggle for me ... shitty drops lol.

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Oh and finally embeds.

trail bane
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T4 chief ans T1 Rorola - both on verge of being upped.
Modules suck yea - 70 effects 6 elite 6 crit focus

vestal crypt
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Even if you don't have maxed out gear, it helps a lot to put even lower level embeds on.

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I'm embedding on shitty gear - even if I don't have the perfect statline.

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Every little bit adds up.

trail bane
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Im about hald embedded due to not having the 1.5% or the 2% stat

vestal crypt
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Yah, I'm not concerning myself with that yet.

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I'm embedding regardless. Not the highest level ones, but the easier to acquire ones.

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They're cheap in the trading center so you can replace.

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I think it's a 1-2% increase with/without per embed (based on minor dummy testing).

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I don't do math, but I did test embed vs non-embed gear.

trail bane
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some are just +15 agi and ednurance though

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or +20 element

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47.12% crit i could prob get it to 50% with a few rerolls and the remaining embeds maybe

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25 agi better than +20 element i wonder

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Was trying to save all luno to work on the imagines too as i didnt give them enough attention in S1

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gained about 500 from the embeds

drowsy oyster
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will we ever get more costumes available in meow shop? do we have the same pool as cn?

trail bane
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I mean we got the spacesuit thing and a new mount skin >_>

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Only took 2 seasons

drowsy oyster
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meow shop?

trail bane
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Yeh meow - member

drowsy oyster
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i mean the premium store

trail bane
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I mean ofcourse were going to get more premium skins? Wdym? :p

drowsy oyster
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what does cn have rn in meow premium

trail bane
keen shell
trail bane
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Its an event shop no doubt - one we dont have yet.

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Were getting another "roguelike" thingy

short coral
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I wonder if it will be a one-class-show again

trail bane
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Lv140 gear chest :[

lethal arrow
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when we do the lv 150 raid gear we lose the embed on it?

trail bane
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breakthroughs apparently dont lose embeds

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but we will get 160 gear soonish that will need new

lethal arrow
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3 weeks i think

trail bane
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Infinite stamina in asterleeds fireworks event :p

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Seems theres a roof xD

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One thing in this game thats actually REALLY fun and they dont push it enough in the game is being able to fly from up high and speed around xD

umbral lintel
runic storm
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since like 3 banners in cn

runic storm
runic storm
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breakthrough doesnt lose sigils yes, crafting will though

lethal arrow
runic storm
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should be using gold yes

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you get more than enough for us bis 140/160 gear

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hoarding them is pointless

lethal arrow
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Yep i have a lot with a little bit of farming

runic storm
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its one weekly guaranteed gold sigil from sigil exchange shop

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and we are in s2 till june

lethal arrow
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Yes time to use purple and yellowss pump it up the gs

trail bane
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@umbral lintel Could swear i run out parkouring :/

wraith stag
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^

neon needle
warm plover
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Hiya I was wondering if anyone was still doing mentoring for the game

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I played for a while at launch until lv60 and I'm just getting back into things again now๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ™

wraith stag
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Also welcome back :D

warm plover
# wraith stag Define mentoring!

Uhmmm

Chatting about the game (and other weeb stuff if you'd like :DD), being poked and probably bothered in dms until im sorta caught up on things, maaaybe the occasional carry

warm plover
wraith stag
tropic fog
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what mas m3 max score?

wraith stag
# tropic fog what mas m3 max score?

M1: 100
M2: 183
M3: 258
M4: 316
M5: 375
M6: 425
M7: 466
M8: 500
M9: 516
M10: 533
M11: 550
M12: 566
M13: 583
M14: 600
M15: 616
M16: 633
M17: 650
M18: 666
M19: 683
M20: 700

neon needle
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Kithi doesn't sleep :p

warm plover
quaint ermine
wraith stag
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LMAO NO actually i slept the last like

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9 hrs

wraith stag
neon needle
median horizon
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Kithi stays awake to check her kitten not being robbed by a ocean player

quaint ermine
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valid concern

pure nacelle
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@quaint ermine can you be my tina kitten

quaint ermine
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send top up for Tina

pure nacelle
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i miss the times when rein was a lb

quaint ermine
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if Tina is still strong when S3 comes out

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Iโ€™ll consider Tina

neon needle
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npc golds are just pain to level x-x

quaint ermine
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It really is

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Thatโ€™s why I swapped off of LB LMFAOOAOA

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Chief 5 was so much easier to get

neon needle
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even more now because there are absolutely no gold mats in TC

neon needle
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game is so stingy

umbral lintel
neon needle
umbral lintel
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oh right. you dont sell stuff AironaDone

neon needle
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I can afford to indulge in the occasional cosmetic but... whaling for imagines or ocean weapon is.. Nope.

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I don't have anything worth selling.. X'D

trail bane
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You sell bound luno for orbs ingame via the trade and then buy the mats from the orb store. It generally works out around the same.

umbral lintel
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not bound luno

trail bane
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or unbound or w.e

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yes i knew it was coming

neon needle
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As I said.. I don't have anything worth selling. lol.

tardy arch
trail bane
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everytime i talk about the currency i get it wrong

crimson violet
trail bane
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I replied not far below...

neon needle
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260 mats required is insane. That's 100k rose orbs. Like $1400.. just for the mats. Still need the Tina copies too.

crimson violet
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Oh thanks

umbral lintel
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so yeah. next event is the rogue like mode yall love so much

trail bane
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Wish it was like actually 9 billion percent actually more like a roguelike :/

tardy arch
woeful fjord
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Hi guys. Floor 40th shows that requires 40+ k AS. Still is doable? Does any one knows the bosses floor 35 and 40?

tardy arch
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Heart that new event shop looks juicey though!

trail bane
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Full of things that we dont understand yet >_>

neon needle
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I like those pink stones.. I can get my weapon skin..

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[I really like those skins/outfits in Pioneer.. ]

tardy arch
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10 wish coins

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after getting the free 20 cosmetic wishes from lunar new years event

umbral lintel
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perfectly doable if you're not 40k

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IS more important here

neon needle
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We almost did it last night with only 2 of the 5 near 40k

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I don't know exact scores but mine was like 35.5k, our tank was just below me, and we had a beatmaster that I don't know but I think they're around same.

Then a big DPS who is probably 39-40k and another beatmaster about that level. :x

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3 healers. 2 beatmaster + one LB.

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got it down to ... like 7%?

umbral lintel
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total group dps needs to be around 1.25 million to clear 40

trail bane
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If Iaido R crit for 2.5m everytime.......

neon needle
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Our big dps was mage icicle

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me running lifebind + oblivion tree.

left marlin
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tanks and dps have it pretty rough rn

neon needle
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tina 3 isn't cheap T_T

umbral lintel
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thats more expensive than a t5 sr

neon needle
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$300 worth of orbs..

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just for 3

left marlin
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if you play since season 1 not really

neon needle
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I've played since day 1

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lol

west quarry
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I have t3 Tina as a support playing since day 1

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It is possible as f2p, I'm so f2p sometimes I don't have monthly when no one donates

neon needle
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I've been a verdant since day 1. It's just pain to do human imagines.

west quarry
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U can do cosign

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So I've flipped the unbound lumo into bound orbs too as needed

neon needle
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that requires money or things worth selling [which I do not have XD]

west quarry
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U have to be decently aggressive I did genshin style map clears on top

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If ppl r familiar that's just taking the map site and legit opening every chest

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Yea basically its not free, u need to work for it but it's possible

neon needle
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Yeh I'm not interested in grinding life skills for small amounts of luno.

I did open every chest I could.. even went with an interactive map to get almost all of them.

west quarry
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Yea hence possible but I wouldn't consider it free

left marlin
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luno from life skills add up

neon needle
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Only if you grind it.

west quarry
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Lumo is from life skills yep always made sure to min max what I can sell

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No need to level life skills

left marlin
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grind it? what do you use focus on

west quarry
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Just focus daily

neon needle
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I sold gems in S1 but never got enough to make it 'worth' it

west quarry
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Yea I nvr did a single 0 focus level

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S1 gems into refines, s2 same diff, a lot of hidden market but that's all like well u r trading time for lack of money

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So t3 possible most def, u gotta work for it no free lunch

west quarry
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SadgeCry hard life

neon needle
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most of my stuff times out in TC. So it's kind of pointless for me. [with the selling floor and the oldest selling first... ]

Only valuable thigns to sell are meow cards and imagine mats.

quaint ermine
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I totally couldโ€™ve had

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Tina M3

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If I didnโ€™t swap

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I dismantled 2 Tinaโ€™s for chief

left marlin
quaint ermine
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i still have 1 tina will though

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and a T0 Tina

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waiting for S3 news

tired dragon
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any idea how to fix this hypersenstivity of camera when played with a controller?
tried to tweak camera settings but it doesn't seem to fix it

keen shell
neon needle
keen shell
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yeah, i usually put it back up a second time, and if no bite, I lower the price slightly. Depends on the inventory

neon needle
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I always put it at lowest price. So lowering the price usually isn't an option.

keen shell
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never do that

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I never put the lowest price

wraith stag
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wdym 40k

keen shell
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I put the median price

neon needle
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Most of the time there's already a mass of stuff at low price. Which makes it pointless to price it higher.

keen shell
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oh okay

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i see the problem

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When selling things in the game, you wanna farm materials that are in low quantity

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never sell stuff that has a lot of quantity

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Like when it comes to skill books, the books for classes nobody plays, or healers, can be sold for higher

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Back in S1, it was the opposite

neon needle
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I don't get a lot of unbound skill books ^^ definitely not enough to sell for much

left marlin
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yea its true, selling items at lowest is nearly impossible now

wraith stag
neon needle
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yeh. it's grindable but not cheap either way.

left marlin
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stuck with a ton of useless s1/s2 items

keen shell
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Yeah, you gotta aim for items that are in low quantity, then you can sell it for an increased price

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i got my 5 meowlux gold tickets that way

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i figure you already maxed out your f2p imagines right, you can also sell imagines from purples

neon needle
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no one ever bought any of my purple imagines. I tried so many times lol

left marlin
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yea thats if you are target farming drops to sell but most people arent doing that now, especially when they are using keys for sigils

neon needle
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gave up and just broke them down.

keen shell
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were they popular f2p imagines?

trail bane
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skillbooks at rock bottom now anyway and some not even selling

left marlin
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imagine wills really dont sell

neon needle
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purple imagine wills don't sell for s... x-x with few exceptions.

keen shell
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if its like Muku Chief + Brigaind, F2P imagines they can sell

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but if its like obsecure imagines, they wont

neon needle
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those are golds x-x

keen shell
wraith stag
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:unaware:

neon needle
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I used my Muku Scouts.

keen shell
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Muku Scout seems overstocked rn

left marlin
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in s1 they sold when keys were best used for either upgrade mat or the will to sell, but now youre spending keys for sigils

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its just a hole really

keen shell
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You should sell Shadow Commander, Boar Tyrant, Brig Scout, Blackfire Foxen and hmm possibly Emerald Caphras, and hmm, thats about it

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50 in quantity is the sweet spot, its not too much, but just enough to get a sell within a week or so

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possibly a tiny bit over the listing price

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because even though thats the case, these are f2p imagines that new players still need

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i wish i could check my marketplace history so i can better recommend

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hmm, it seems the market is trash, cheer up treats might be the bis, can anyone confirm?

keen shell
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Sigils, Cheer up treats, Reforge stones, hmm what else Wills (imagines), then actual imagines,

quaint ermine
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So far both of my gold sigil emblem is tier 2

quaint ermine
keen shell
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A week worth of Azure Fruit grinding for a measely 211,680 Luno at minimum

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Moss shards are a guaranteed sell, but getting them is kinda...

left marlin
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buying grass to craft and sell starforge pot is not bad rn either with new refine open, also 200k

keen shell
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question, I have a 5 tier Muku Scout and a 5 tier Brig Scout, what tier Foxen and Rola is comparable ?

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to where i can swap either of them out

left marlin
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for falcon?

wraith stag
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Not unless you have tons of bound apples

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Note: Specifically bound

keen shell
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ooof

keen shell
left marlin
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i think even t1 rorola beats out both

left marlin
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fox closer to t2/t3

wraith stag
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That's just

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so wrong..

left marlin
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why?

wraith stag
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Because T1 Rorola loses to both

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T2 is a sidegrade

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You need T3

left marlin
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hmm when i had rorola 2 on falcon it was definitely already better than muku scout

wraith stag
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In a short fight where cooldowns don't come into play I can see that

keen shell
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i should have led with my class and spec

wraith stag
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Taken from the marksman guide for example.

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All the testing I have seen points to you needing T3 to justify it over T5 Scout

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T1/T2 is a sidegrade, aka on par or comparable / slightly weaker

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And T3 is the point where you can call it "better"

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I know for a fact my T1 Rorola is significantly worse

keen shell
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imma read it after i come back home, gotta head out

left marlin
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yea t1 aint great , lets just go with only use gold imagine from t3 onward

wraith stag
# keen shell link to guide? message me pls
left marlin
wraith stag
#

I CONCUR

median horizon
soft topaz
# keen shell

if you're yoloing it on WP, @tidal mist is a WP-lifer and can probably guide you on your build for this season

wraith stag
soft topaz
#

me watching someone casually buy flier/rorola 5 because they switched to SB MS that day

median horizon
violet pagoda
#

hey does anyone know how to use the 2p scooter mount, trying to get my friend to hop in here and no interactable show up

quaint ermine
#

you gotta click on their profile and click on interact

violet pagoda
#

gotcha, thank you

trail bane
#

Literally iaido is hated - all M4 party rejected or ignored. Make my own party that takes an hour and get people who cant form a sentence >_>

wraith stag
#

I mean

#

There's no way to tell which Stormblade is applying

#

Were you sent here for some GOONSTRIKE PROPAGANDA?

trail bane
#

Its been days - i dont know why im still playing because what i want to do i cant get into xD

wraith stag
#

Maybe it's a time zone thing? It was easy for me to find m4's o-o

#

What's your rating / master score

trail bane
#

maybe iaido hate is so strong they dont even want to risk allowing one into the party even if it could be a goonstike potentially

wraith stag
#

That's how I feel about goonstrikes

trail bane
#

Iv'e tried different times of the day - 37.5 1082

wraith stag
#

I hate them so much every time I see a stormblade apply I am afraid

wraith stag
trail bane
#

How exactly is it low though? :/

#

Unless i bought reforge stones or whales on refines which dont actually do much to As? :/

wraith stag
#

I didn't do either and I was 38.2k

#

Did you swap to 140 weapon early or something

trail bane
#

Full 140 - used all the reforge stones i can obtain with stats i need + alot of subs + embeds + Muku chief 3 Rorola 1

#

Yeh i did 140 wep early, crafted it.

wraith stag
#

That's why

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Going full 140 is why too

#

rip

#

I'm still using like 4 or 5 120 pieces

trail bane
#

I didnt max the reforge on it and every 140 piece was min 30 to be stronger than prev

wraith stag
#

Yeah and that's the problem

#

That's a HUGE dps loss

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Because instead of focusing on maxing one piece to actually see improvements

#

All that does is make it on par

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effectively wasting the reforge stones

#

Summary Lv140 Reforge Stones

Week 1: 190-205
Week 2: 193-209 (383-414)
Week 3: 136-153 (519-567)
Week 4: 139-157 (658-724)
Week 5: 142-161 (800-885)
Week 6: 145-165 (945-1050)

You need 18 reforge stones (9 attempts) to make a Lv140 gear piece match a Lv120 with 100/100. You need 66 reforge stones (33 attempts) to reach 100/100 on a Lv140 gear piece. Double the stones for the Weapon (same attempts)

trail bane
#

after 30 the item is stronger than the previous in every way

wraith stag
#

Again

#

Massive DPS loss

#

Because no it's not lol

#

Let me make it easier to understand, say you have 100 base stat

#

You then spend 200 reforge stones to get every 140 gear to be on par with or slightly better than your 120 gear

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Now you have 110 base stat

#

You barely got any stronger because everything is low perfection

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vs

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Maxing a single equipment to 100 perfection

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now it's way stronger than the 120

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And have 200 base stat

#

TLDR: you basically still in 120 gear lol

trail bane
#

When you put 140 to 30 perfection it shows a total increase in all stats on the item tho? :/

#

vs 120 maxed

wraith stag
#

And I'm saying that instead of having an extremely slight increase

#

You could have maxed something to 100 perfection

#

and seen a large increase

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So you are basically 120 gear still levels of strength

#

Because you swapped to 140 way too early

trail bane
#

do the stat increase get larger the higher the perfection or every single reforge stone gives the exact same amount of increase?

#

because putting in one or spreading should equal the same?

#

or you saying 80-100 perf gives more stat than 0-30

wraith stag
#

:kekhands:

torpid gyro
#

lmfaooo

#

put it this way

#

lets say u spent 30 reforge stones on a brand new 140 piece and now all the stats on it are slightly better than ur old 120 piece

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great

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but what if you had another 140 piece that already had 30 reforge stones on it?

#

lets say ur 120 piece is worth 20 stones

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if u spent ur 30 on that other 140 piece instead, youd have an effective 40 stones that increase ur stats rather than only 20

#

this is all like random numbers but thats the gist

wraith stag
#

Yeah, you spend 18 reforge stones x12 to "match" your 120 gear
So instead of actually seeing any gains, you just wasted 216 reforge stones to get literally nothing

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While if you funneled resources into a single piece you'd actually be seeing gains

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That's why I said you are basically in 120 gear still

keen shell
wraith stag
torpid gyro
#

also thats just unlucky

wraith stag
#

If you still have your 120 gear I'd recommend swapping back to that then optimize your reforge stones if it's not BIS 140 pieces already

torpid gyro
#

made my own party as 37k and it was kinda light m4 clears

wraith stag
#

ooo i see maybe bad time then

trail bane
#

M4 clears that i got went great

wraith stag
#

i did too but i was 38k

torpid gyro
#

me personally if u know ur dmg isnt lacking despite ur as then j make ur own

trail bane
#

my first raid piece is maxed perf - i can see how the initial investment to equal a 120 piece can be seen as a waste if your going for the higher as now.

wraith stag
#

Yeah but it's not just higher AS but higher DPS too

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If you have good pieces though don't bother refarming

#

You will be a bit weaker for a while

#

But it will fix itself in a week or 2

trail bane
#

Weird how i didnt really noyice this at any of the other upgrade stages until now

#

Was always on par with most players that i saw and demands in chat/pf

wraith stag
#

Maybe overgeared? XD

#

I know you can clear M4's with a good team of min maxed 37ks but

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Most people I see ask for 38-39k range

torpid gyro
#

they dont want to gamble

#

๐Ÿ˜”

#

which is fair i understand that

wraith stag
#

yeaaaa

trail bane
#

Yeah just stick with mages and archers ftw its not evern about as xD

torpid gyro
#

also clear m4s is different from doing perfect runs

wraith stag
#

TRUE i just assumed perfect runs was the default

torpid gyro
#

thats crazy bc the top dps for the season are meee

#

melee

wraith stag
#

Iaido is the top DPS in my heart uwu

trail bane
#

Its my fauilt, i saw the warning saying iaido is whale class only or its poop. Still went with it all this time xD

wraith stag
#

This was never a thing

#

LOL

trail bane
#

Need the 60% crit and T5 imagines from day 1 or nope >_>

wraith stag
#

Uh... no

#

You only "need" 55% crit which you should easily have by now

#

And you don't need "T5 Imagines"

#

Iaido still does very good damage F2P

#

And it doesn't benefit much from whaling either

#

I'd actually say it's one of the weaker classes to whale on

trail bane
#

never even seen 600k ingame from spenders why you lying xD

wraith stag
#

If that's whale then you are a whale too

#

because you'd be 38k if you didn't mess up reforge stones..

trail bane
#

and that R just almost never hits the jackpot and lands like 300k to 1m most of the time >_>

wraith stag
#

But the actual spenders

#

are way higher than 600k

#

An Icicle in my M5 clear did over 1m dps

#

lol...

#

Slightly exaggerated it wasn't "over" 1m at the end but close

neon needle
wraith stag
#

There are people with 45k rating too

#

the heck do u mean 600k is whale LOL

#

My raid run had 4 icicles all over 42k

soft topaz
#

FM oceans are reaping the benefits of icicle being meta, huh

wraith stag
#

yeah LOL

soft topaz
#

I've been holding off on ocean for S2, mostly because I wanna know what S3's new class is

wraith stag
#

Twin Axe!

#

One Crit one Luck + ATK speed

soft topaz
#

well it's heavily rumored

wraith stag
#

yaaaa

soft topaz
#

mostly on the main guy's comment

#

but S3's less than a month in CN

#

so why speculate when we'll know by this point next month

wraith stag
#

21 days iirc

soft topaz
#

*my main worry is what if they add twin striker and the class actually sucks lol

wraith stag
#

then we play it anyway if its fun

#

fun all that matters uwu

#

if im weakest dps ill just get @storm badge to carry me

soft topaz
#

in a game like BPSR where being bad isn't necessarily a gate to getting all the unlockable content

#

sucking likely includes being unfun lmao

soft topaz
#

like really, just knowing the mechs and not completely giving 0 shits about one's build is enough to eventually get everything lol

wraith stag
#

Wait until you get to do NM 2nd raid

#

LOL

#

I'd like to see if your opinion changes

#

my favorite comment from a CN streamer was

#

"what a f2p friendly raid"

#

"better off skipping the 2nd and doing the 3rd raid"

#

ngl i dont think a team of full f2p can clear it on release

#

let alone casuals having a chance to clear it without being carried

cursive whale
#

so it's just dark dragon on steroids

wraith stag
#

Bone dragon was the easiest dragon of s1 unironically

#

but mechanically say it's like

wraith stag
#

100x harder than that?

cursive whale
#

100x??

wraith stag
#

with a huge dps check too

cursive whale
#

I'm quitting the game

wraith stag
#

LOL NOOOO

#

Rumor is we will get nerfed version

#

but if we don't

#

GG

#

find an icicle whale

cursive whale
#

I was going to come here and ask what to do after getting boosted to level 60

#

but you've convinced me that it's just over for me

wraith stag
#

ITS OKAY UR A HEALER

cursive whale
#

if this game gets popular, I'll just buy an account

neon needle
#

Kithi, shame on you.

wraith stag
soft topaz
#

not unless they got a carry or accepted a lengthy jail sentence

neon needle
#

I really like the golem one ...

#

The Capra one I have no idea what's going on for 99% of it.

soft topaz
#

golem feels easy because normal has ~40% of NM's assignments

#

2 instead of 4 crystals, number of flowers to kill, spots to sit in to avoid being thrown off the edge etc

storm badge
wraith stag
wraith stag
#

you kill it during its travel phase

#

to skip most of the nonsense

#

LOL

soft topaz
wraith stag
#

daaaang

soft topaz
# wraith stag

did they retune the golem after or are we gonna get diddy'd by big G when we get NM

wraith stag
#

i love how its like

#

normal mode: easiest thing ever
hard mode: hardest raid
nightmare mode: free trip to hell

soft topaz
#

tbqh, if S3 new class is legit and hard becomes irritating enough i might break and just get ocean now to join a whale hard raid

wraith stag
#

OMG FUND ME ONE TOO

wraith stag
#

im just going to hide behind the icicles

soft topaz
soft topaz
# wraith stag LMAOOO

I thought we messed up a pull at first before realizing the model wasn't one I saw in the dungeon before

#

opposite experience of the RNG assassin encounter in soundless where it gave us the bump needed to get good enough M4 score

primal marsh
#

is there some cap on the renewal seals from the colorflare trial?

umbral lintel
#

You still get 3 for the first completion of every day though

primal marsh
#

oh yarm

neon needle
#

<@&1372169443110813706> Get `em

supple sorrel
tardy arch
#

What's everyone doing with their starforge crystal lv1/2?

#

._. I have so many unbounded ones and I'm not able to sell them

umbral lintel
#

And thatโ€™s about it

warped saffron
#

you can also try to sell it during peak hours (i.e. when people get off work or on the weekends)

#

and just pray that some dumb player buys it

umbral lintel
#

Oldest listed items sell first

tardy arch
warped saffron
#

maybe it sells at like 5:59 pm the next day

warped saffron
tardy arch
umbral lintel
warped saffron
#

and now after selling 1, I have 5 of them

tardy arch
#

AironaDone I have 26x lv2 and 14x lv1

tardy arch
#

Unstable still drops them lol

umbral lintel
#

Game pretty stingy about giving stuff you actually need

solemn bough
#

are there any infos about s3 ๐Ÿ˜„ ?

umbral lintel
#

S3 starts in mid march for China I think

soft topaz
#

3 weeks from now

#

so a lotta new info to be gotten for when we get it . . . 3 months later. lol

solemn bough
#

when will s3 be up for us ?

#

dont tell me next year :S

soft topaz
solemn bough
#

RLY?!

soft topaz
#

yeah Global launched ~2.5-3 months behind CN

solemn bough
#

kk ty

neon needle
#

for the achievement would this count as 15 or just 1?

waxen swallow
#

What does error 154140713 mean?

manic matrix
#

If someone in your homestead claims them, it'll go toward their achievement and not yours

neon needle
#

there are only 2 of us active so it should be okay

#

ty for the answer!

wispy flax
#

and it will make the achievement a guarantee (?)

neon needle
haughty tartan
#

Guys is there a way to get better ping to play? Since s2 started i was getting issues with high ms making my experience in game being awful

umbral lintel
haughty tartan
umbral lintel
#

Other than that. I donโ€™t think you can get better ping besides moving to where the servers are located lol

white eagle
#

Or trying a different ISP to check if their routing is better than the one you're using right now

rough gyro
#

Anyone know how many more event Vault tix will be given out?

umbral lintel
#

Check back again tomorrow to see if a new quest drops Wearona

clever glacier
#

why do i have to download 30 gb again, was there another big update after the dream stuff?

wraith stag
solemn bough
#

its sad that you cant dismantle activated images -.-

tardy arch
#

ig we have to manually check the time since they removed the trading center timer

wraith stag
#

Just sell it and set a 23 hour 59 minute 55 second timer

#

Then buy it when times up

#

works every time

tardy arch
#

Iโ€™ll give it a shot! Thanks!

primal acorn
tardy arch
# primal acorn Convert them

I would but itโ€™s not worth it for me. I donโ€™t spend any focus on my refinements and just sell everything for unbound lunos Laugh - I have issues.

wraith stag
#

You can make a ton of luno off it

#

Not selling it is akin to buying it

tardy arch
#

No wonder.. I kept seeing the quantity drop of those items but was never able to sell lol

quartz sigil
#

you can also ask kithi's alt to buy your useless stuff

wraith stag
#

wow LOL

tardy arch
#

True, it would be kithi ๐Ÿคฃ. Mentored 60+ players in s1 - this is pocket change in comparison ahah

wraith stag
#

Imagine if I got red orbs for each person

#

HAHAHAHAHA

#

yup

scenic hill
#

didnt think of that, will try tonight ig thx for the tip

wraith stag
lofty agate
#

Hi any new map for afk farm?

little hornet
#

Question, is it better to use focus to directly make refinement mats, or sell ore I mined with focus and then buy refinement mats?

umbral lintel
#

but if you already have 2 t5 gold imagines, you can do either i g

wraith stag
#

^

#

I concur

little hornet
#

yeah no, I literally just started playing the game

#

gotta catch up somehow

wraith stag
#

New players shouldnt be touching refine

#

Old players shouldnt be touching refine either

#

now whales

#

whales can touch refine

#

uwu

umbral lintel
#

whales can touch everything

gentle totem
#

If u have luno buy some refinements, if you have focus make some refinements

little hornet
#

aren't refines a bulk of your AS

wraith stag
#

whales can touch mme if they give me ocean weapon uwu

#

what

#

refines

#

barely matter for AS

umbral lintel
#

refines are like miniscule

little hornet
#

guess i'm hoarding luno then, thx

wraith stag
little hornet
wraith stag
#

Someone based and bored of Goonstrike

wraith stag
#

You can do M5 / Stimen 40 with 33-34k rating if good enough

#

I'd rather a 30k Lifebind with T3 Tina over a 50k lifebind without Tina

#

unless the lifebind can cc disso and solo HAHAHAHA

little hornet
#

yeah, m5 done, 2 set pieces done, stimen 40 done

wraith stag
#

nicee

little hornet
#

T0 bas, T0 tina with another tina in backpack

#

the mats needed tho, rough

wraith stag
#

looks EXTREMELY good for a new player

#

like way above expectations

little hornet
#

I take pride in not touching grass

wraith stag
umbral lintel
#

goose is still around?

kindred wing
#

What kind of shady business is this? Dev won't even let us sell our Starforge crystals for min price because they are selling theirs for cheaper

little hornet
#

the only other thing I can think of is exchaning luno for rose orbs, but that also feels like a bad move

wraith stag
#

super duper op lifebind that can also dps

#

praise the goose

west quarry
#

ICANT HUUUUUH

#

NOO LIFEBIND CANT DPS

#

WE JUST GET CURRY

#

yes u do focus on tina

#

fr

wraith stag
#

I SITLL HAVE RECEIPTS OF UR DPS

west quarry
#

assuming u have enough gear in general u dont need more

#

u can focus on tina

wraith stag
void wharf
#

I have a question for a mid-spender. If i have 30k orbs what should i prioritise to best cost/effecient output? I am a tank with 39.5k CP // got Tina at 0 currently, Venu 0, Tempest and frost at T3. Oceans too far and expensive specially since i started last week of S1 and didnt raid till S2. Any recommendations? I also play lifebinder and frost mage as dps in my spare time whenever its needed by guild.

umbral lintel
#

ngl so many people feel this way cuz devs didnt make how pricing works very clear in game lol

wraith stag
west quarry
#

this is my score as lifebind to give some general idea how low u can be but still survive, i did all m5s with this

little hornet
#

those stats

#

a little bit of everything huh

west quarry
#

yea im not a lifebind im a FKING CONCERTO

#

dont copy my stats

#

i build as concerto

little hornet
#

write that down

west quarry
#

if u rly are lb just follow maxroll

west quarry
void wharf
umbral lintel
wraith stag
west quarry
#

this tells u how to correctly gear as a real lifebind, my main is concerto tho so my gear is not correct

little hornet
#

think I'm following pretty well

west quarry
void wharf
#

If there is a direction to go for would be great or should i just save them orbs / luno ? spend on cosmetics xD

west quarry
#

i mean ur more gear than me just looking

wraith stag
#

Yeah all you need is to focus on Tina ngl

west quarry
#

if u wanna invest in tina yea

#

like can u keep "bloating" AS sure but derp

#

honestly theres just better places to put ur luno

little hornet
#

I would love to but, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

void wharf
wraith stag
wraith stag
#

:prayge:

west quarry
#

i look like i rolled out the gutters

void wharf
#

My main is a tank tbh, waiting on whats coming to decide if i want to continue as SK or switch to HG for oceans

#

but i guess for most specs / roles Tina is a solid investment as of now?

wraith stag
void wharf
#

so will try to get that to T3

west quarry
little hornet
wraith stag
#

IKR

wraith stag
west quarry
#

LB COULD NVR

wraith stag
#

i believe

little hornet
#

thats what they want us to think

wraith stag
#

IKR

west quarry
#

S3 DMG IF U COPE HARD ENOUGH

wraith stag
#

hey they made hg able to dps

#

maybe they will add something that converts team healing into damage done

#

and limit it to 5 targets

west quarry
#

ICANT at that point lb is so broken the other heals would legit quit if they havent from s2

wraith stag
#

LOL

little hornet
#

I mean there is the goblin shaman imagine, but not enough

wraith stag
gentle totem
void wharf
wraith stag
#

sell 2

#

that way you can get me one as well

gentle totem
#

Not worth for a game that doesnt even tell you it's roadmap beyond the month

#

Maybe eos next month

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

wraith stag
#

silly warden

gentle totem
#

Who knows

void wharf
#

sometimes in life you need a bad discission or two

wraith stag
#

we have a 3+ month roadmap

gentle totem
#

I mean longevity of game

wraith stag
#

SILLY WARDEN

soft topaz
#

I've been holding my spending until we see what CN gets for S3

wraith stag
#

Twin Axe

#

one crit one luck

#

my uncle told me in a dream

soft topaz
#

since admittedly a lot of what I WOULD care for the game's future only comes then

gentle totem
#

Like what

void wharf
#

when does S3 release for CN ?

wraith stag
#

13th

#

iirc

soft topaz
#

3/13

gentle totem
#

S3 is still a mystery

soft topaz
gentle totem
#

Another floorblade with new imagines to whale for

#

Meh

wraith stag
gentle totem
#

Class or classes

#

Confirmed

wraith stag
#

They said classes but I don't know how to interpret it

#

EX: release stormblade, have iaido and goonstrike

gentle totem
wraith stag
#

LOL poor qiqi

#

I'm just assuming it's one class until mentioned otherwise

#

I'm interested in the crit variant

#

If it's fun I will swap

soft topaz
#

wasn't twin striker held back from release due to them wanting to do a different balance for it

#

but yes they did say they want to add a class every 2 seasons

#

and the main guy basically described twin striker as a new class they'd like to add

wraith stag
#

I will probably just hoard and save til assassin

#

uwu

soft topaz
#

so from the like 3-4 hints we got, it's TS we get next season

wraith stag
#

yeaa

#

This is my personal speculation: random names

Crit Variant - Barbarian: Slow but very big hits, possibly energy based
Speed Variant - Berserker: Fast and nonstop hits, replaces goonstrike because frick goonstrikes

#

Goonstrike should also be a bottom 3 DPS

#

no bias here

soft topaz
#

inb4 TS forces Iaido out of dps instead

wraith stag
#

silly hk

#

our position was already swapped with icicle

little hornet
#

has anyone done some math on boss drop rates by any chance?

wraith stag
#

I got 0 drops in a 100 day period

#

therefore I can say it's at least 0%

little hornet
#

seems about right yeah

wraith stag
#

HAHAHAHA

little hornet
#

what about legendary mats tho

wraith stag
#

thats actually something i wish i paid more attention to

little hornet
#

well the actual % doesnt matter, just need to know if its rarer than cigils

wraith stag
#

I've gotten more material drops than sigil drops so far

little hornet
#

hm, well, goblin king it is then

tacit flame
#

Season 3 New Class and hopefully fix certain class or buff class

#

Concerto is becoming nonexistence class

#

At this point, as may remove beat peformer and only Lifebind class exist

umbral lintel
#

devs dont know how to balance specs ๐Ÿ˜”

wraith stag
void wharf
#

Quick question about levels. If i am already capped at 65+ with exp around 2.4mil / 1.2mil .. when they release the new levels would i get 2 levels or 1 level and it resets?

wraith stag
#

It doesn't reset

#

Stored EXP will carry over

void wharf
#

ah great

#

so i can work on getting a few levels

#

Thanks

wraith stag
wind quartz
#

New cap will be 80

iron canyon
#

Is the Boon Fountain bugged?

Our guild is level 8. We've upgraded everything we can upgrade. The Boon Fountain only gives us the fish meat option.

This is what we get for Yielding Blessing.

#

It says we should be able to get the plant buff

wind quartz
#

I think every guild has this issue

stark turret
median horizon
#

So yeah

gentle totem
versed pilot
#

is there a way to resize the window of the game without going to settings?

white eagle
pale adder
white eagle
pale adder
neon needle
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Beatmasters owe it to Verdants for completely running them over in S1 Raspberry [I do think it should be balanced better tho]

trail bane
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crit/haste boost ftw

white eagle
keen shell
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If you have dual classes, which classes are best paired with Marksman?

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its Stormblade right? if so, what spec

keen shell
umbral lintel
keen shell
keen shell
wind quartz
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no that won't change, at least not in season 2

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previously seasonal level cap went from 50 to 65, soon to 80 later to 90 and then 100 eventually

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and prob in season 3 another level type

trail bane
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Just seen a 42k disoo soloing a Gob chief and did like 10m dmg in 10 seonds or someth xD

gentle totem
trail bane
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70% crit rate on this disso :p

pale adder
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As the two meta specs rn are moonstrike & icicle and the latter prefers the stat spread of LB

gentle totem
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Other's prefer concerto

pale adder
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The first two are the only relevant dps specs in the game atm tho

gentle totem
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Every whale is relevant and every dps is relevant, because the game is easy.

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Play what u like

trail bane
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only if your a tank

pale adder
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Not saying the others dont have a place or anything right, play what u want and whatnot and u can get all the content out done easily