#questions-and-help
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Lul, that reminded me of something we were joking about in a twitch stream last night
What they say
It started with talking about how to fight a dragon when a sword can’t pierce its scales, then it shifted into hitting it with long, blunt, floppy, instruments
Hit the dragon scale (whatever the weakness is called) with fish
Except for the… ehm… innuendo
I missed that
does normal give reforge stones
and is tehre any difference between normal and hard in terms of amount of reforge stones
No different in that respect that I noticed
which one's you fastest
Normal
no im ean which dungeon
Idk, never paid attention to the timers… Not that important until masters
if i just need exp and whatever you get from mobs while afk farming, do i still need to join an afk party as a healer
or is this still like afk void farming
where you get almost everything as a healer without even getting into a party
I’m, not sure… @wraith stag , Do you know if it makes a difference or not? ^
99% of my farming was solo
so from what i know so far, only advantage of my parties are for elite chests and buffs
so if im only for exp and sigil drops i'll still get them like we did back then in void farming
yaa
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what
het everyone i have a quick question
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so making an alt to share ur cooked food with ur main homestead, what are the limitations for this method? so how many food can i transfer per week?
i have both on my main, i assume i dont need it in my alt
ya
You get the drop of the person killing the mob, as long as you heal them, party or not
It’s 15 focus related items per week, unless you have the monthly card which doubles that to 30 per week
Awesome thank you both 🙂

run its the goonstrike
Is there any info about the second reward being the mount about the exploit?
curious question. been a while but whats people thought on 6 dmg stack 6 life wave vs 6 of either dmg stack/life wave + 2 other 6s which would y'all think is better?
if your class can abuse life wave
then take life wave
dmg/lw gives you higher peak if you can take advantage of lw
if you're never upkeeping lw, then its a dmg stack+6/6
@potent light
i think this season its very easy to upkeep lifewave due to mob aoe and bleeding kinda effect everywhere
not to mention lifebind proc consistency
can u get higher roll on luck?
yes
ty
I guess the more specific questions is can taking both lw/dmg stack peak higher than a dmgstack + 2 6 others.
yes
i answered that here
ah
Yes
Think of those as like 1.5 modules
And think of elite/agi/etc etc as 1
It's kinda situational though
i think 1.5 is a fair standard deviation value
But 1.5 and 1 is easier to understand
Life you can run a triple 6 and it be similar to a stack or wave + another useful
I think 1.7 might be better

Idk
i heard its substantially weaker to run 666 over 6damage stack + 6
Depends on class/mods no?
If I have special/elite/agility why would I throw that away to roll lets say stack/crit
On Iaido ^
yeah special+elite+agi is peak 666, but i don't have quantifiable power for damage stack other than mults seem to be lying
based off similar builds with module differences (same gear stats, same imagines, damage stack is the main difference)
yeah that's pretty much the case with mods
But a triple 6 is not just guaranteed gonna be bad
agree
I personally just dont see it as likely most people will get a dmg stack + elite moreso
lw/dmg stack = 120 adaptive atk/matk + 160 strength/Agil/Int + 10% most used stat (pretty signficant value at a later stage) + 11%~ DMG dealt vs 60 adaptive atk/matk + 30/40 atk/primary stat + 6% DMG bonus +Elite which is basicly the same value as x1 but adaptive). which kinda is just the same thing but running lw/dmg stack we get +10% of our choice (if spec properly)
in this perspective it really make lw/dmg stack better imo in a very general sense
i think the issue that is very glanced over
is that elite can get very diluted in an actual party comp
against vulnerability / boss damage mults
and attack damage from agi is not exactly atk%
but it appears as if damage stack grants its own unique mult
yea its under the category of DMG bonus imo
Lifewave value also depends heavily on class mainstat
Like crit classes probably get the worst value
yeah lw is very class dependent
ya
crit classes 100% get the worst value
While luck classes get way better value
To the point where luck classes can do lifewave > damage stack
crit doesn't "scale" your damage as exponentially as luck
What's wrong with the game today 
crit plateaus at a certain point which makes lw so unappealing
have no issue personally z.z
tho using vpn or whatever tend to make me dc alot more
I thought the servers are overloaded because of the new stuff
and if you try to boost secondary stat, then crit can suffer or you're in for a lot of stat pain
isn't mainly ialdo getting shafted if ever tryna life wave?
cause thats like the only class i know can get 100% crit pretty easily
cause of nodes
consistency is nice in most case no?
Yeah but I think falcon also mains crit no?
And I think on falcon it would be worse as well
does falc 100% crit?
No
o
But 10% crit isn't a guaranteed increase
does anyone knoooow
the average focus used to craft a single refine stone?
The yellow one or the black one
@sullen bobcat
OMG STOP PHOTOSHOPPING 😭
mystery metal
display names doesnt prove it was you, i could put my display name as pluna if i wanted :^)
but ACCOUNT NAMES is an identifier
people will see it and be like
oh thats @sullen bobcat
ok but like
nobody knows me as that here 😭
pluna dayo
I would change my account name to pluna too if I could..
darn someone got it ?
Actually 6
Pluna can be considered a six-character name when you account for its phonetic and stylistic structure rather than just its visible letters. The name naturally separates into two syllables — Plu and na — with the consonant blend “Pl” functioning as two distinct sound components. When analyzed linguistically, the blend subtly carries dual consonant weight, effectively expanding the name’s structural complexity to six character elements. Because of this layered composition, Pluna can reasonably be interpreted as a six-character name in stylistic and phonological contexts, even though it appears shorter in standard spelling
Chatgpt ahh response
youre having way too much fun with photoshop
Exactly

I ask Chat GPT about Pluna and it gives me this result

Just interesting
Legit Six Character name
wow its actually accurate @sullen bobcat
Kithi stop bullying Pluna XD
Anyone in CN can confirm dust currency for farmable skins go up from 3 in masters and up/
It will go up to 5
I believe there may have also been a event where you get extra running with new players but I didn't pay attention to that
:thinkpika:
ty
Hey guys, quick question please:
Coral Solsticera - 10 Meowlux cards, I mean no problem, but it says locked on it, but it doesn't give a clue how it is unlocked, so anyone can give me some guidance here, it is the only outfit I want, I have 5 meowlux cards atm, and don't want to keep saving if I can't obtain this set by just buying it with cards
its a skin for the actual outfit which is from the first gacha from S1 so only way to get it now is through trading center. and once you have it then that option unlocks.
That sucks... thanks for the quick reply
the onoly other one I would have considered is also S1 x)
Its a lie - this is what they said about iaido >_>
Iaido was #1 dps in season one if f2p therefore I'll allow it.
Should i buy Granblue fantasy and go ride the hype? xD
are you able to help with a stimen 30 clear? @wraith stag 
@jade yew help

ok
wait tf they need dps ur dum
huh
u think ur funny righ

watching anime with mom.atm but can when im at pc!
what spec
looking for some dps to help out
I can find dps, what spec are u tho
oh. i can be earthfort or skyward, i'm trying to help out an iaido guildie
i am messing up the buttons hard
seems like party is settled?
lmk if you still need

Anyone know if the CNY wish banners are gacha with what currency? ie can we use bound RO to pull?
should be the same as the regular gacha
ah ok ty
got it done, thanks #4! and others that reached out

It’s apparently not gonna operate the same as the normal gacha, it’s gonna have its own currency for pulls granted free with the event and any additional pulls will be for “80 rose orbs” and the outfits will be “bound” (so no re-selling)
interesting
That’s information I got third hand through a forwarded message. So I’m not sure of the source’s authenticity
can somebody tell me which attacks shoudl i remove from auto battle? im beat performer concerto
I have a friend who started playing through the epic store and they had a random pop up when logging in to link their account to a-plus and they thought create new account meant like new a-plus account (since they never ever had one in the first place) and apparently it linked their whole epic store log in to this new "a plus account" with none of their characters? Are they screwed?
Tried the help system on the site but the ai tech support is lacking to say the least..
Is there any information already about when t4 and t5 fertilizer come out?
hello! does this always appear? when I click it it creates a new folder and downloads the whole thing again
I literally can't start the game without having to download it all over again.
does old dragon da s get replace with new one
Nani
is it not only in-game photos you can upload in the photowall
that's ingame
a picture I took just now in bahamar
oh interesting, ive never encountered that before. i thought for a sec you were trying to upload a photo you edited elsewhere lol
naa purely taken ingame, just added stickers and stuff from ingame features
and contrast/saturation from ingame too, no outside editing
I've never seen it, is your monitor too large? or is either of your albums full?
How many players are visible in the picture?
I've found that if the count exceeds 30 that can cause issues
album has 0 pics
monitor is 4k and 27"
ah
Hmmmmmmm
my assumption is the monitor then
4k is huge
and as far as I can tell, the game doesn't automatically take pictures at a set quality, since mobile users usually have really bad looking pictures
so if you have a 4k monitor it's taking a 4k picture
YOOOOOOO thanks for running my lifebind thru stimens
^^
i joined a game w master :>
is global catching up on the chinese servers?
probably not
is floor 30 doable as f2p?
lemme rephrase the question then
and others they might as well turn the monitor off
doable as a team full of f2p
yeah specifically
f2p HG that can deal 100k - 120k dps
f2p smite/disso that can deal 150k dps
and day 1 dps f2ps that can deal 300k dps each

thanks for the answer
It depends on how optimized they are and how long they have been playing, if it's the "average" F2P then it will be alot harder, or in some cases impossible if they are new.
It's alot easier than it was last week because you technically can have Dream Level 65 currently ( I myself am 62 ) and that does help quite a bit against floor 30, being at least level 60 makes it alot easier due to the new passive talent being pretty large for most classes.
I can pull 400k~ DPS without using food, theoretically it would be alot higher if I had invested in Fox Imagine but I decided to meme and thus don't actually have it LMAO
That's also a bad run where the enemy was dragged into the watcher so I lost like 7 seconds of DPS
H-h-how do you guys even have dream level 60+
AFK Farming!
My guild member hit the cap a while ago LMAO
I'm more casual with it, but floor 30 is DEFINITELY alot easier with higher dream level
Like, last week I uhh
I afk farm since the first week and still lv 56 
Did you do the hidden quests / farm as a healer
I did farm as smite
Should be good enough 
Idk about hidden quest tho
Let me give a quick example of
last week vs this week
This was our last week clear, I was using level 90 weapon still ( so my rating was WAY LOWER )
I had full BIS food buffs on and we had a stronger Tina buff
and I only managed 314k dps
The only thing I have changed since then is enhancing my weapon a bit more and Dream Level
And I went from 314k DPS ( fully buffed + food + strong tina )
To 400 ( can do 450k ) DPS no buff no food + weak tina
TLDR: Illusion Score is unfair and Dream level ( especially 60 ) is huge
sacrifice just needs 9 levels of psyschoscope tomorrow

https://bpevents.poofcakes.com/hidden-quests Some of these only appear if you did S1 side quests, unsure which ones
How do you guys get exp faster 
AFK FASTER!!!
I just play Lifebind and leech heal people
good amount of exp
more than 1.2m exp iirc
thats assuming u go from doing none of them to doing all of them though
I also need floor 30 if people wants to help, im on 300k dps more or less i think
I haven’t done any of them
sweats

If you still need a party we can run tomorrow! about to pass out cause its 1 am and moms kidnapping me to get stuff for superbowl ( i am a filthy american help )
goodniiiiight guys 
Here is 7 am, working on night schedule, but work is almost free time so i can play xD
HAve fun
Goodnight, i will post something tomorrow if im still in the need, thanks
oh wow its 1 am here XD
ty guys ! :D goodniight
did they
remove ANY text from messages??
I thought you could send a message as long as it had an image 😭
Hey guys what really determines damage on a character Is it the gear The skills being at level 30 top tier 6 or Or the gear being refined to Max level 20 Please try as as detailed as possible so I can understand Thank you
And who's the top tier in mass damage right now Mage icicle or Frost Beam
Whale min max icicle
am i too late if i start today?
too late for what
idk man, what would I know, I haven't played yet that's why I am asking
Play
well, the game isn't eos yet so you definitely can play
your to late 4 the diddy party
did I miss any important stuff or not?
I guess you're too late to get some limited time cosmetics from last season
Not really, except for a mount maybe
other than that not much
oh yeah I forgot how crazy that mount was
and they don't give the doggo anymore do they
is there anything that would affect gameplay experience (aside from cosmetics/skin)?
Reclaim hub is a thing so you catch up pretty fast
I mean you'll be behind on the overall progression over time, like reforges, imagines, and modules
but you only need to be minmaxed from day 1 if you want to try doing end game content (or whatever content is above the reasonable current power level, like stimen floor 30)
I see. Is being behind a problem?
depends on why you play the game
if you just want to do high level content, it's a problem
I like to take pictures and be with my guild, so it's not a problem
and you can always get carried by a whale/super optimized f2p
People will probably say you suck in pub parties until you build your imagines because most people already have a tier 5 imagine 
yeah
you can hold your weight with easily obtainable stuff though
I'm running 2 tier 5 purple imagines right now, which you can get half of the moment you start, I think
sorry anyone need to ask how to track where to farm for raw materials inside game itself
when i click it it just pops an icon with an up arrow
can't see anything on the world map or minimap
not the craftable ones, but the very most basic one where you need to get get in fields (like chopping woods, mining etc)
in the life skill menu you find the resource and press how to obtain
when i select track it won't allow me to track the basic materials
only the next tier which is processed
you can't track in the menu?
....ha?...
yeah it's strange
ok thanks...
does anyone know how to make the game run smoother? i lag horridly
better pc ✨
no actually
game is just unoptimized
if you have a constant bad fps that can probably be fixed by lowering your graphics
BRO IM GONNA GET ONE SOON I CANT WAIT ANYMORE. I TRY TO RUN SOMETHING AND MY LAPTOP GETS HOT ENOUGH TO COOK AN EGG
ohh
"a laptop"
my setup
the hell is a HEIC file
apple
oh
where is Blue Protocol AFK Farm Pro setup

you aren't falling for trolling are you
the photoshopped images
just started tonight on my steam deck lol, took a little but running stable 60 frames on the small screen so it’s not horrible, had it plugged into my monitor at one point using the dock, haven’t been at my laptop to play it yet.
like i said i just started, i used that insta to level 60 and got all purple 120 gear. i’m just running through the story missions and it takes 20 years to kill regular mobs. is that normal? i feel like i do 0 dps. i’m using frost mage. upgraded my skills as much as I can as well as the talent tree. the items aren’t really upgraded or anything like that though.
depends on what you mean by "regular mobs"
if you just started, you probably don't have any talent points
it would be pretty hard to kill anything aside from really weak enemies if you don't have your talent points
you do get some from levelling, but you get the rest through airona's quests and through Trial Path
one sec
i have all those talents, 1 is finished and i started on 2, not sure how many there actually is
not sure what you mean by "1 is finished and I started on 2"
there is a base class and then you have an option to choose a specialization
on the right side it shows numbers 1 and 2, it says “2, activate 30 talents in expertise 1 to u lock expertise 2”
ah
well that would be the specialization
you should struggle with enemies until you can unlock most/all the points
ohh yea i saw something about like frostbeam spec
I forgot what max points is so I'll load my game rq to check
70
you can see it in the top left
yes mine shows 7/36
i can’t get the next talent cause i’m missing a attack seal
so just run through the story and i’ll eventually get more?
like I said
you get most of your talent points through airona's quests and through Trial Path
airona should be roughly right here
thought so xD
seen my whale guildie struggle in a weaker group... and this guy just soloed it...
just the pictures point to file tampering, so I wouldn't be surprised by other cheating as well

Anyone know how the 'sprout' newbie event works for guaranteed nappo spawn?
apparently they eat something before the battle start... could be a bug in the interaction of the new foods/oils/whatever
They been doing it before S2
did sign in event already ended? I can't claim my sign in event anymore. it just shows reclaim reward failed.
You may have claimed all the rewards
I think the last one was a pair of gold module boxes?
no its running for like this whole month still
oh
I am seriously starting to lose hope...
Because it just feels like the people in charge don't give a damn about the game.
Most bugs that exist are junior level junk fixable in 5 minutes
yeah, after that i don't get the rewards anymore
Yeah It really sucks but it's not something that I'd "lose hope" over personally
Everyone is mass reporting it too
I think my problem is that I work in the engine, worked in gamedev... so I know exactly the reason why half the bugs is happening even without knowing the code, because I encountered the issues before 
ohhh
For example the thing with scrolling. How mousewheel is extremely slow in some cases and you have to drag the thing...
I reported that including steps how to fix that 
The fix is that you take this and change it into this
5 minute fix, including the editor startup
does anyone know how old fafala is?
i was only asking because i'm finally getting around to playing story, & you go around in town during a cutscene? & also her asking you over to give a present, it's like 5am, so i'm kinda zoned out, & wasnt sure if they were trying to insinuate anything :/
man i'm too autistic & tired to be asking naive questions ig
Please. Go to bed.
I don't understand any of this!
But at the same time I never noticed the mousewheel really slow thing either
I think I'm probably too used to clicking and dragging personally so that's probably why I had no clue that's even a thing
could be
I really struggle to combine comfort of chair with kb and mouse - jealous
It's actually a bit of everything
- Skill Scaling ( Both level and advancement )
- Imagine buffs
- Refinements
- Gear levels
- Stats
- Team buffs
- Optimizing Rotation
There are also factors you can't really control such as enemy defense
Showing the damage formula is probably the best idea like Lewon did, but it's not exactly going to be "Oh just work on this 1 or 2 things to determine your damage"
This game honestly has one of the best catch up systems for new players in any MMORPG I have ever played, you can get a decent percentage of the missed rewards ( 80% iirc ) So you won't be too far behind if you start now.
Unless you want to do the quite literal hardest endgame content you should be fine.
The game actually runs extremely smooth 99% of the time for me uwu
Edit 2: Apparently servers are located in Virgina which is 4~ hours away from me :D
LMAOOO
Breaking causes the resistence of bosses to go down right? How much is it going down by ?
what is this blue icon next to boss HP bar?
0.00000000000%
SK 10% atk debuff
Hello, my guild master has been offline for 20 days and can't log in due to reasons, I am a vice master and I can see I can remove the guild master from the guild but I have not tested it and don't want the ownership to go to a random person.
Is it possible to actually remove him?
wtf is this?
Did you update your graphic drivers?
I think leaving and reentering the map fixes it
let me check
AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.1.1
its up to date
Welp. Yeah only suggestion I got is leaving and reentering the map or restart the game
CN gamers, are the cocoons gonna be worth doing tomorrow?
i gona restart it and check it again
its still the same issue after restarting the game
it looks like a broken textures
Last resort would be to reinstall the game
okay let me try this
Could be artifacting from the latest windows update(Feb 6th). There's alot on how bad it is
they were talking about fps not ping
in one dialogue with the village chief she is playing with some of the kids in the neighborhood, and the chief says "it's rare for her to be playing with kids her own age"
now, as for whether this means "she has to play with these kids that are younger, so it's rare" or "she's the same age as those kids" isn't really able to be deduced, since she obviously didn't have a normal childhood (given how she can wield a sword and shield so well) and to the old guy, our player is also probably just a kid
I’ve reinstalled the game, but the issue is still the same as before. I’m using a SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 9070 XT Pulse
i think its the game itself...
Idk. I’m not having texture issues and I’m using an amd card as well. Maybe try rolling back the latest windows update.
Can someone help with stimen 30? I need 2 dps and healer
I know the channel is called questions and help but I don’t think this is the right place to ask for this sorta thing xd
Try #looking-for-party
okey thanks
How do we create a feedback post? I had a thought…
What if we could “craft” focus potions by bottling up our accumulated focus for future use…
For when the market isn’t profitable enough for our liking, so we instead save our focus for when it is
You need to use the command /feedback , then you can type the suggestion and it'll be posted in the channel
afaik it doesn't matter in which channel you type the command
Has anyone else had issues with connecting their crunchyroll to their BPSR Account?
I did at first, but I forgot how I got it to work…
When does maintenance begin?
/feedback
Kithi!
(bonks) Bad.
I did nuffin wrong!!
uh-huh
10th Feb. 2026
06:00-09:00 (UTC-2)
Server reset is at 7am UK Time (GMT)
tyy
why is there enough emojis to react with that..
LMAO
Next week we unlock new raid, we are going to get double mats for ocean weapon with dragons or dragons will stop giving it?
No double mats, the weekly will be replaced
did they limit storage again?
Wym?
Okey
shared storage
Should be 15 focus items per week as usual
ahh
What's the best tank class/spec to full (or mostly) auto?
Btw is there a way to get throne pure gold? i saw the drop on raid is random so only on the market?
Its always been 15 focus items could be withdrawn, 100 common items could be withdrawn. If you used to be able to withdraw 30 focus items, that’s a bonus related to the monthly card
HG block me thinks
It doesn't drop in raid anymore?
what about what you're able to put in?
In maxroll says random
Were Unstables changed so that Solo/Duo now grant identical drops as Team mode?
250 common items, can’t remember the focus limit
How do you unlock these other buffs? we are guild lv 8 and we have never seen them
yes
Guild admins unlock, then activate
But I don’t think they apply to focus items, if that’s what you’re hoping for
i have acess to set up the fountain just have never seen the other two options

Yeah I think it’s not implemented yet lol
Max lvl fountain does nothing new from lvl 1 fountain

Isn’t that right there though? I see both the meat and vegetation ones on that screenshot you provided… There’s also one for fishing, but not sure how that one works
It’s in the description of the building but it’s not a selectable option when you go to activate boons
There’s only the plus 1 fish meat buff
Guys I’m sorry, but is the maintenance at 11pm on February 9th for EST? Or did I convert it wrong or something
I believe it's 2 am on the 10th for EST
or it might be a different time
1am?
not sure, I would just go to bed or play a different game for a few hours
it should be on reset or an hour before reset
So since maintenance is 3hours it starts at night on the 9th and ends in the morning on the 10th?
For est I mean? So what I need to know it is not on weekly reset right?
As expected of the top global player!
i know right, pluna is so good
Uhhh it says the 10th. Wouldn’t that be Tuesday
If I converted the time correctly it would be at 2 am cst Tuesday
utc-2 is ahead of est/pst
PST V EST
feb9 night -> feb10 morning range
it would be indeed 2am tuesday
because 2am tuesday falls into feb10 morning range
here in utc-5 (EST)
One time, Pluna entered a raid i was struggling in for over 6 hours. They said, "Watch and learn, as they proceeded to solo Bone-Axiotl in under 10 seconds, finishing with a Divine Sickle that one shotted the boss from 50% HP. We were all in awe-struck.
They proceeded to take a selfie with the entire group, and my hands were shaking as I got my selfie with the top global player. Every night, I look at the picture and wonder, "Will I ever be as good as Pluna?"
Far sea wp 100 is better than the lvl 140 wp?
No
The far sea weapon will never get to a usable state for f2p ngl
🎣
this; if you're not gonna buy 80-90 mistbornes off market; ocean is not meant for you
that being said, after you t5 2x imagines, assuming this game lasts long enough; f2ps can sink luno into mistbornes if they really wanted to
Yeah but if u whale and get it, is there any info about 100 far sea vs 140 normal?
It is pretty much buy Ocean Weapon or Not right?
if u can whale for it, it's stronger than normal
I know after u upgrade it its for sure better, its just the far sea basic vs the new lvl 140, but i guess far sea gives a lot of stats and upgrading it its not really expensive so
What does it take tp upgrade ocean wep from 120 to 140 right now
Whats it cost to be 20 levels ahead by everyone
100 to 140 you mean
You need another 20 blue stones to upgrade from 100 to 140
That’s 5 weeks of farming assuming you already have the lvl 100 weapon
Dont think having an outdated/underleveled ocean wep versus the latest highest lvl wep is worth the 3k or whatever
I guess that's not too bad hmm
The problem is it’s gonna take nearly the entirety of season 2 to even build the lvl 100 weapon as f2p
Dont see it worth the investment to f2p grind it and be behind all the time, but idk the math so
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If the 170 mythic is not far away from the power of an outdated ocean then fk it
Im taking the normal wep
Ocean is 10-15% ahead i hear
depends on class
Ocean is more of an early game head start
Only if leveled up
when we get red weapons gap closes massively
Im saying is an ocean 140 the same as a red 170 wep
Bcs thats how itll be with f2p ocean, always levels below with it
Then is it even worth it at that point to grind for it...
Doubt
Yeah ocean weapon can keep going. 140 to 160 and then 180
No it cant
It's more so the base cost you worry about.
If youre f2p....
"As long as you continue to clear the Nightmare Dragon Shackles Raid every week, you don't need to purchase additional materials to upgrade it in the future."
So Ocean Weapon is bascially ahead start weapon every Season. That's what I think the Developers is trying to do.
I dont think im being clear sadge
When are we getting 100 xD
But yeah, should compare to at least 160, 180 is too high but 140 is too low.
Ocean Weapon is 100% worth investment if you plan to play Every New Season then
If you are not whaling for ocean refinements, you will not be 20 levels ahead with ur ocean, above the normal weapons, like ocean is lvl 140 noe and normal wep is lvl 120
Ehhhh
If youre f2p, you wont get the mats as easily, your ocean will be below the normal wep level, and further below the whales ocean level
Is it not though?
Not worth it.
^
Scam for f2p
^^
That's it really
With both normal and hard dropping only the Pure Gold Thrones, are any glinting stellar cores that may further pop up injected by Bokura?
You need the same 80~ mistborne off market
My guildee got one from unstable and another one got one from raid so iunno
I know now that whale will be spending this on game, so the game will survive for a decent long time. It is the developer income.
Well the raid is still dragon so it makes sense
Big time investment as f2p, for unclear profit margin/potential time wasted sunken cost to profit, potentially game ending before you reap rewards

Apologies, I meant the next set of raids
Game’s future still kinda up in the air
I simply dont know if having an ocean wep, below 20 levels of the newest levels of a normal wep, whilst whales have 40 levels over yours is a worthy investment.
Hmm
I want better progression, I want better varity of talent tree or new class, and etc.. those takes times to develop.
This was what I was looking at for reference:
Speaking of longevity, yall hear about thst leviathan event in s3? Red flags if anything, cashing out for real. You need to spend like tens of thousands irl money to fully claim rewards. It's supposed to be a thank you for player loyalty event😂
It's not that it's not worth it, it's that it's too difficult right now.
It's completely worth it, after you get T5 Muku Chief Imagine you have nothing else to work on for many classes.
Getting Ocean would be unironically comparable to aiming for T5 Rorola.
The problem is that it would take well over a year at the current rate to make the required luno to catch up.
It's most definitely worth it, unlike with Imagines the developers said Ocean is a long term investment progression type weapon... this will be BIS in season 3 / season 4 etc while Imagines will get replaced.
But at the same time I wouldn't buy a single chest even if I had the luno because there's always the chance they make it easier to farm in s3
Literally about $15K US Dollar to max out loyalty event.
Just casual drop 15k, as a thank you from us for playing our game, youre welcome

Surely ill do that bcs the game isn't ambiguous at all if itll close or not soon
With a clear cut roadmap of the future
Lets all buy the ocean wep

too much dooming coming from bro
I need a roadmap of the future if I would drop $15K US Dollar.
Thank u someone w common sense
I need one if id drop 3k for a weapon lol
Pfff
Not worth putting $15K US dollar if they do not even provide a roadmap of the future like every other game does.
Mabinogi has a roadmap, PSO2 NGS has a roadmap

This game?? roadmap?? Only a Calender for each month.
Wow
LMAO
I mean
If you aren't rich why are you even considering spending this much, especially in one go.
15K US Dollar is like extra money for anybody that are filthy rich to spend on.
Anyway ocean wep f2p not worth it, maybe even whale ocean not worth it if game doesnt know how long itll go for
complaining doesnt rly make sense
But we can agree to disagree on this one.
Im not complaining, im broke thats my skill issue
But time investment and money spent matters when there is no certainty of the future
.
I have a friend that spend 20K Us Dollar on Genshin Impact and still spending on it.
His parent are rich, so Money doesn't matter much and he live with his parents still.

Thing is genshin dont even have content to warrent the need to buy more constilatios for power, if u get the character you have all the content (waifu collecting simulator)
I think our disconnect though warden, is you were looking at ocean as a "competitive without spending a single luno on it" while I was looking at it from a "You need to pay the base cost" perspective.
I dont get what you mean
And after we get T5 muku chief, personally I'm saving all Luno from s2.
So is f2p grind ocean worth it for u, will u get ocean and be levels behind?
Or will u spend to catch up ur ocean
By end of Season 2, Most players that still playing from Season 1 probably have T5 Muku Chief by then.
Yeah
Not me im spending everything on flamehorn
Until the new class drops and the new best in slot imagines drop for it then we t5 golden all over again
Like, my viewpoint of the ocean weapon is like this.
It has a 80-90 million Luno price tag, the chest drops you get from raids isn't going towards the base weapon because you can't afford the upgrades.
Unless you want it for the cosmetic only, you still need to pay 80-90 mil Luno but then you get an OP weapon for the known future.
ya see
i dont see getting many T5 imagines worth it
I'm happy with my T5 Muku Chief and ill just dump any red orbs into rorola, all luno is saved til s3/s4
Many purple t5s equal a t3 golden roughly, id honestly settle w t5 purples
And purples have lesser versions of the goldens that do the same thing
Dont need to chase the next t5 golden every time
Team effort you dont play solo
Muku Chief is the exception for the most part but yeah that's why I don't really see why saving another few seasons for ocean is a bad thing.
I'd rather do that vs Imagine
So it's not that it's "not worth it" it just takes too heckin long LMAO
that's the unfair part
Well again im skeptical bcs idk how good ocean will be with lacking refines compared to whale ocean
refines?
Unless you mean spending all f2p resources to get it to the same level as whales
Levels
..
^
The only gold imagine I truly spend $$ on it is T5 Tina. Everything else I don't even bother.
BASED
That Imagine is just so broken.
Again idk how ocean does compared to normal weapon, when it is lacking level upgrades that f2p cant easily get like whales. The whole point of ocean is that whales can have 20 levels ahead of time by players early on. Is an ocean lvl 100 comparable to a normal lvl 140? Is an ocean 140 comparable to a mythic 160 red?
I dont know

Will i grind 2 seasons to find out? Probs not
Will the game last that long? Idk
You see

No LMAO maybe I'm not explaining it well, by 80-90m price tag I mean you spend 80m luno to get enough chests of ocean, then you don't actually need to buy any of the future upgrades, you would have the same weapon as the whales.
Like right now we have about 40~ if I magically bought 80 somehow I'd be at 120 right? I now have 140 ocean weapon.
By the time we get 50 Glittering Fluxgold (Season 2 material) I would have another 25 and boom, that's 160 weapon.
So no, you wouldn't be lacking any levels
So basically this
Idk i think it's harder than u make it sound 😭
how
80m luno is a lot
If you can get 80m luno, you catch up
Idk if the game will even be alive each month lol
I will save for over a year tyvm
you know that Ocean weapon get way more stats bonus than 170 raid weapon and 160 ocean weapon right
I hope game lasts that long and more
Idk why we had this debate to begin with though, Quan already summarized it perfectly from the start lol..
personally ill stop at T5 1x imagine
uwu
I dont think f2p is getting anywhere near to upgrading an ocean, and thats after 2 seasons of grinding for the base ocean.....

but i wont sink luno into mistborne, just hold onto it and when I have enough buy in one go
No F2P is even going to focus on getting Ocean Weapon. They will be busy getting another T5 Gold Imagine.
ew
Ocean Weapon is literally designed for Whales players
Think t5 make more sense
we can agree to disagree there
Nah you just can't understand my genius
Luno will sink into Will and Material, not Mistborne.
SSR means no will and no material
But really, I think holding onto Luno after maxing a T5 imagine is just the best choice rn
Getting a second one seems too risky
Aim to get Ocean, save for it, if a better opportunity presents itself nothing lost.
Will ocean even live to a year? What if they make a better weapon after 😭 for the new classes or something
They said it's a long term progression weapon that will carry through seasons
So they won't make a "better" weapon
Developers already said it is a long term progression weapon.. BRUH..
They can say all they want, time will tell
The main fear would be if they suddenly use new materials in s3/w4 lmao
other ocean gear soon kek
which is why I refuse to buy chests
Def see that happenin
Dont they already lol
To get to lvl 170 or whatever
no
We're going to find out that in March in like couples weeks.
To max ocean lvl rn
Still the same materials we have rn + s2 golden mats ( bought in honor shop, hard raids etx )

Is new lvls unlocking soon again u mean?
a BRAND new Class
New S3 imagine been confirmed too
They also promised new imagines wont powercreep old ones hmm
I never saw that
What...
S2 just introduced best in slots that classes didnt have in s1 so the power increase of new imagines is understandable i think
The new class will def have new imagines we need to roll for to use as best in slot too
...
I would hate if they start to introduce Damage over Time status like bleeding, poison, and etc
Smite getting flamehorn versus using muku scout makes sense for example, a true tailored fit best in slot, now if another imagine better than flamehorn for smite came out in s3, that wud be crappy
S1 and s2 imagines mostly all relevant
Assassin class has a talent node where you can apply 5 marks to enemy stack 5 bleeding.. It will be crazy.
Is that leak info how do u know
I am just guessing. Chill
I'm at my PC now so I can type easier oawfaewgfjh
I don't agree with "They promised new imagines won't powercreep old ones" I never saw that and personally even if they said that I find it an impossibility or possible mistranslation.
We have already had powercreep from S1 -> S2 Imagine for most classes, and it's not because classes didn't have a BIS.
Not to mention that, with Muku Chief being BIS on like 95% of the DPS roster, they need to replace it eventually, they won't be making any money from a buisiness standpoint if everyone is done for the forseeable future provided they finish Muku Chief.
Sounded like you were stating not guessing haha
I'm actually expecting Imagines for most classes to be powercrept, some classes got it bad S1 -> S2 and I expect the same thing S2 -> S3
I think that's another reason I'd rather save luno to eventually get a whale weapon, because it's more likely to stand the test of time compared to imagines from what we have seen thus far.
Same can be said for ocean weapon then. New mats, new whatever. Money money
Modules is the real endgame apparently now😂😂😂😂 unless they milk that too
The powercreep should be like 5-10% increase over previous seasons if they don’t want to piss off the f2p/low spenders 

Well the purples seem not far off middle tier goldens, seems decent to me
At least we got thst goin for us
Mini free goldens
The difference with Ocean and Imagine is...
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At least we have a developer statement that it will be a long term weapon progression system.
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At least S1 -> S2 you don't need to whale more to max it if you had whaled and maxed it out in S1.
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At least with Ocean you can save up until you hit 80~ million Luno and see if they replace the materials or not.
are we getting the mentor/mentee program for m5 badge?
Yeah both is a gamble, I just don't think Imagines especially S2 Imagines is a safe bet.
We will see more clarity with s3 info coming out over the next month
For most classes anyway, there are some exceptions ofc.
Like, with the exception of Wind Knights ( who did still get their BIS imagine changed unironically )
Most classes S1 -> S2 got a new BIS or new purple imagines that really hurt some players
For now i just want the game to carry on 😭
Imagine having T3 Spider and T3 Flier then being told
Oh yeah, you are on the same level of S2 purples
So, i have questions, I was an Artist, i plan to open commission in the game, but the payment is in Red Orb, are that kind thing is allowed in the game?
It is going to be near the end of Season 2 like how they did in Season 1 with the Mentor/Mentee program.
Max one Imagine to T5
Then save
o.0
If by the time you hit 80m luno Ocean is still good, can get it
If something else happens, can get that if it's better.
If a new broken muku ssr comes out, you have the funds
No one is hiting 80m luno 😭
You understimate the power... of the fisherman
🫠
LMAO
But yeah, I know it will take over a year at the current rate, I'd just rather something that can be built upon and upgraded over a gacha like system where you upgrade and start from 0 every season.
It's just different viewpoints is all
Ill be happy if game is running for a year more idc about anything else
Im not a fan of the imagines or gacha, i can run purples and sleep good at night
But like Neo said, if they only increase 5-10% over prior seasons then it's not really worth going for Imagines after you get the T5 chief imo.
If it's a larger gap, at least you didn't waste luno on Season 2 which in my opinion has a poor roster of Imagine's for most classes.
At the end of the day
I am not sure about Rose Orb, but if you're going to do commission then open up Paypal or Patreon.
If anything though, my complaint is how slow it is to catch up with ocean as f2p LMAO 80m is insane I just wish it was 40~

Me playing from Season 1 to Season 2 now. I only spend $$ for Tier 5 Tina..
shhhhh
I have found my new best friend
Everything else was free from playing everyday.
I doubt you can make T5 Tina with full F2P lol, dont misslead people
wha
Did you not read what I wrote??
Of course it's possible, just need 3 seasons worth

My honest mistake was not wiping out the goonstrike civilization before they grew roots
Owh yes, my bad, lol, since english is my 3rd language, lol
Now they have become an infestation
My tina t0 
Moonstrike is everywehre
The time has come... execute order... 67
We picking the best afk dps
Damn floorblades always pretending to be tank and dying making my heals look bad

I want to make Basilisk, but I don't have enough material and I don't want to spend $$ on it.

Wait for season 3 for the new buffer
😂

Truly, I am going to save money for S3 Human Imagine Buffer that will be better than Fafala.

Human imagines and f2ps haha
No, i mean, i have Paypal, but my intention is to more interact with the game in same times doing the commissions...

I only spend $$ on Human Imagine
I dont bother, since english is not my 1st language, i can easily miss-read something, lol
Show your portfolio and advertise in Fanart then?
Paint Holo like a French girl
I don't know the rules.
Yes, i plan too, but i just ask the regulation, since i never seen an artist playing BPSR advertised their commission in the World chat
I noticed holo has the new spice and wolf remake picture, not sure how to feel about this (original anime is superior)

Just like the reboot of rurouni kenshin
A modernised soulless empty replica
Modern slop with high definition graphic lines

how long till 160 gets released after 140? how many weeks/month
About 40+ days
Realistically you’ll be using 140/150 for like 50+ days since the 160 gear isn’t fully reforged hence unusable
oh??? that long?
kk tnx
guess imma use them good sigils for 140
I recommend using the sigils on the raid gear. They carry over when you upgrade them from 140 to 150
good to know they're upgradeable 
Yup 140 raid gear can upgrade to 150. And 160 raid gear can upgrade to 170
150 does not upgrade to 160 however
anime elitism in the big 26 what the hell...
not sure if i’m able to ask this but can anyone recommend a guild for newer players? looking for mentoring and stuff like that. looking for more of a casual guild than a hardcore one, want good times
prob better off joining the guilds that are advertising in world chat since they are most active with plenty of members
the guild I'm in is pretty casual https://discord.com/channels/594431022188331008/1433454172102987978
Cheat?
Hey all new to the game, any tips for once i hit level 60 and finish the MSQ ?
Take the top left buff, iirc initial entry
Take all heal -> damage
Kanamia Archer / Black Hole depending on team
Apparently healers can steal heal procs too
Smite is ideal
Lifebind is good too
Others take considerably more effort and don't do as well generally
top left buff
as in tthe expertise thing?
yaa
oh ok
#1449504181290405988 if you want it
OMG THANK YOU
I miss loom so much
I miss the people I used to run loom with 
Does MT start 1 hour before normal daily reset?
@sullen bobcat i figured out the talent tree and stuff and the quests to get attack seals. i just wanted to say thank you for answering my questions!!! 😁
your welcome!
i also took your recommendation for the guild side of things, hoping to get in soon
sweet haha thanks! i ended up messaging the owner i believe or wtv but not sure if that would help me get in sooner or not haha
Anyone know if there is a chart thaty shows u how much life skill EXP u need per level?
I had one but I lost it, I'll try to find it again
just play smite. In the loom event, pick up the top left node that converts 100% of healing to damage. After that, pick up any buffs that increase your healing or damage dealt by healing. Max out Expertise +400 buff





sure bpsr ill do this for u hopefully dont close the next day








