#questions-and-help
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Fair
does your AS go up with food/serum
No
just as a warning it's kind of hard to find a good group now.. [might need to party up] since most people are done with it.. it's just stragglers.
oh what's the difference between partying up and just afking where people are
gear and skills ig
[I was afk'ing overnight because I need luno.. ]
you got max skills and 90 wep f2p?
genuinely asking.
max skills yeah, lv90 weapon nope
ill get the lv90 weapon by sunday just like everyone else, cant afford to buy mats from AH
You got some nice refines then i guess
not really haha my refines suck
minmaxer f2ps already got 2-3 20s and rest at 16-16 minimum
yeah the 15 refines on def gear makes the difference
I mean idk how much money people say they can make on auction but i bought battlepass each time and i buy 2x mystery shop each day im not even close to that.
Not enough focus
i just try to max the dmg ones lol
Level of Gamba needed to 20 something because you arent f2p if you buying mosses
refines dont give that much tho sadly
might be gems and perfection
Your about 400ish more on gs than me - im fully gemmed , granted not all T7.
Think it’s the skills yeah
Module/imagine/refines
My refines are nearly same but I also have 6/6/6 modules
not module for sure lmao, mine sux
i dont even have golden modules
It’s a skill + your talent tree is more bottom heavy than mine
So you’ll always have higher talent
The nodes lower down the tree have higher weighting
tho talent tree has like what 60 AS diff? meh
Yeah I’m saying like you and I are close in pretty much everything
It’s just the little things adding up but
Mainly skills
Do you have t5 gold imagine?
Has anyone seen this?
2.5% to roll and also good luck getting a 10 roll on it
my main skills are already maxed, the other ones barely make any difference at dmg anymore
since marksman is 10% of own dmg and 90% of wolf
Yeah mostly anything I do will not see much of a damage bump but my alt job is going to be a tank so
Not like I need a ton of books for that lmao
I’m only a4 Muku Chief so if I get a5 next week like I plan to it’ll be a decent bump in AS
With 90 weapon it should put me over 30k
im still at lv3 muku chief, feel like i never get the drops i need lol
got the imagine for 4 and close to buy 5th with shards
I've gotten one gold imagine drop in the entire 2 months I've played [and it was one I don't even need/want] ....
everyone such high muku :[
I have Airona/Tina/Tempest but only at base level XD
the requirements to level them are insane
putting on all lvl 80 gear : ^) AYO WE're BOTH moonstrikers dap me up boi
i also have 145 emblems
You can expect about 2 per season from drops alone yeah
im at 27.4 rn was 26.999 before upgrading earrings to lvl 80 lmao
dont forget to work on refining too
i put all my attack items at lvl 15 rn
and the rest are at levl 11/12
Anyone know of a place where i can get support with a dps meter not working?
if its the dps meter in game not working, it should only work inside guild hall with dummies.
if you mean some 3rd party dps, no support here can help with that
you'll have to ask people around who know about that dps meter
nope t4 at most, it doesnt give that much of AS though
Ahh okay so everything is t6 then
Yeah I’m missing two t6 that I usually equip
my game dont entry, help me please
That would be the difference
How many times can you do loom of dreams event?
as many as you can bear :p
And you can keep getting rewards?
If there's a limit no one has found it yet
help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
hmm, are you connecting from a restricted country? if yes maybe try shutting the game completely and restart that term starting with v, if not, still try relaunching maybe? like completely close it, using taskbar etc
thanks man
Does anyone know how to do the bug where you use a statue while growing and become MASSIVE
Like way bigger than max Street Theater big
He just isn't f2p, i have done every content there is, never missed anything from daily cxomissions to NM raids, and even got some stuff from the shop, and im at 28.4k. This seems like difference in yellow imagines which requires quite a lot
i am f2p tho, ik cuz this economy and poor country wont let me whale 😭
i have f2p friends at 30k lmao
When does level 100 gear come out?
👌
if ur talking about ocean weap prob in a week or two
Is that different from lvl 100 gear?
are u sure lol, u need like 100 of the blue stones and u get 3-4 a week
not sure; but def not f2p able for months
doesnt mean whales wont have it in time by buying off market and capping weekly opens
i dont think f2p will ever be able to get it, since s2 dungeons will gove lv 120 140 160 gear
So lvl 100 gear is different from ocean gear?
yes
👌
i mean f2p is projected to get ocean in 6 months
pretty accurate, u get 4 of those blue things a week and u need 100 of them
25 weeks which is around half a year
spending money on this game rn, looking how players are decreasing day by day, is kinda like trying to fix a sinking ship
but its their money, they can spend it how they want to
guys I'm really lost about gear progresion, is there any guide for that?
I played the market hard and I'm about the same as you xD
You do realize that AS fluctuates across classes with equivalent investments right? I know whales on my class with double r5 legendary imagine, maxed out gear refines, maxed emblem, and almost all skill books, who are only in the 28k range… Again, AS means Nothing because it’s far to variable
uhhh i was just explainin how its possible for f2ps to go beyond 30k 😭
what even are the rewards for loom, dunno if I got anything for failing on the 2nd boss
I admit I didn’t read everything above, but it’s not far to compare your stats with someone who plays a totally different class
Currency to spend at the event store
The only rewards through the entire thing is that flower looking thing
lmao. f2p but with season pass 
Who are you? @grim rover
made the reference to my guild earlier. its like the gym bros that do roids and then claim natty status lol
Mattymatt, got it, ur id wasnt loadding for me
Actually, that’s a pretty good analogy Dara
Having the season pass would make you a dolphin.
anyone know how the loom of dreams trial work ?
light spender is a better term than claiming f2p imo
what buffs should i be buying etc
Yes… Many of us do
elaborate
Healers are op bc theres 2 buffs that make so they can transform their heals into dmg
The real question is… What buffs work best for ‘my’ class. And my answer is, IDK
Hey do you still get first clears on your second class?
that makes sense
obvious buying haste over and over isn't gonna achieve this output
One at the first boss and other on the shop
It’s a little more complicated than that, but basically
as a SK main
Kithi going for the jugular on that one.
Must be nice to have a gold will to sell…
tbh, being a true f2p and grinding to the top IS a flex
it's a lot of work and effort
i show my work and effort at a job with disposable income
^and time, and patience, and grit
There's nothing wrong with paying, either. :p
I also am a spender because I work.
I don't have time to grind my fingers to the bone.
nothing wrong with spending. at all. but claiming f2p instead of "light spender" makes anyone whos actually f2p think wtf they doing wrong lmao
I've swapped classes like 4 times. i paid to get my books back to the exact same number they were at. i am not f2p anymore even though i didnt forward progress. same diff imo lol
I too, lightly spend (even though I really shouldn’t). But I’m starting to think I should just go ahead and buy up the last three copies of the BiS will for my class…
and f2p means you don't spend anything. you don't get season passes or monthlies.
(cause who tf can be bothered losing 2/3 of their books lmao)
F2P can't even get meow cards that you can sell...
Technically, they can.. But why would they?
how do i send a feedback?
.......... pulled on wish and trying to claim f2p
we can? o.0
^
They can, save money then buy with luno
free to pay
its bound tho
They’re always on the market… Check yourself
cause of the 30 day wait
they haven't gone up enough in price to make it worth re-selling
with the tax bite
you'd lose money

didnt buy any stat boosting items from AH tho, i only sold those meowlux tix so i could get the fish mount 🤷♂️
I know that… That’s not my point
you're still not f2p lol
f2p statwise lol
I...
Unfortunately, there are indeed stat based benefits to buying the season pass
oh? like what
- Monthly gives alot more red orbs
- Pass gives extra items
- 2x shop refresh on store
even I now have a whole disclaimer when i tell people my rating lol
It’s pretty significant, especially for books
example of f2p
Tasty book
I didnt buy stuff specifically to whale, i just got the sexy outfit which happened to open up more options for me.
I dont think im a whale/dolphin.
I dont wanna ruin the time i spend in game by buying what i want to achieve through my own actions, because thats where i derive my fun from!
unrelated but if some1 around the 27k as range could send me their as screen id be thankful
ehhhhh maybe the focus bottles, but i only use my focus for refinements and yet im still behind lmao, also i dont purchase books from mystery store so
LOL CHONO
I spend because I like the pretty outfits
also selling meowlux tickets at the market to have more gold than f2p and buying stuff before f2p can have access on it
Lol
You're way ahead of me on gear.. X'D
Anyone who lightly spend, be it for progress or aesthetics, are classified the same
That's still not F2P though xD
even "only use focus for refinements"
f2p means you didn't spend. simple as.
am i welp, some of my f2p friends got to like 30k with ease
still means you are ahead of those who didn't
Why aki be trying to proof their f2p?
im f2p
because it's a flex to be high AS as f2p
source trust me bro
guys no way i spent more time playing a game instead of working
as is meaningless tho welp
stats > as
Doubt that very much, they probably just aren’t talking about how much they spent
Doubt too
30k is like whale territory
I have a light spender friend with arround 28k and bro is playing ALL DAY AND NIGHT
oh no no its pretty much doable, assuming u saved up ur luno by selling 50k worth of focus products everyday and spent em all on the lv90 weapin and progression
an entire imagine...
Didnt miss anything
so you're telling me if I spent on mats instead of pretty outfits..
/j
I mean i think there is a good argument - there should be a mid ground between f2p and whales.
If a person didn't specifically whale on Imagines or refines ( Books hardly matter at this point ).
nah bro keep spending on outfits
Bro got chief 3 
pretty much f2p? or f2p? how is it kinda free? I dont spend at all, only a little
drip > AS
Which class builds mastery and intelligence
i probablt would be 30k as well if i didnt buy the fish mount from AH 😭
again, the term light spender
Except for, that’s not feasible if you actually did do that… I’d know because I’ve been selling smelting products since day one
"F2p btw"
Like we saying the person spent but it wasnt in order to boost their AS but as a side effect it did :]
While that im struggling my ass to get airona 1
There's nothing wrong with being f2p or spending.. but claiming to be f2p when you spent is.. 
Which class builds mastery and intelligence

honestly pretty oufits > mats. why?
- that lv80 gear will be lv100 gear > lv120 gear > lv140 gear > lv160 gear>
- that refine max will be lv15 > lv20 > lv25 > lv30
that pretty outfit will hold value indefinitely
Archer if im not mistaken too
nah theres powercreep in fashion too

Proud to have got even here xD Didnt think it possible :3
oh I know, I won't change my spending anytime soon X'D [though the crap rolls I'm getting might..]
I play for fun and pretty outfits = fun.
tho, u only gotta buy 6 pure gold thrones, it only costs 1mil
enough to get u to 30k
only 1m
where? lol
The fact is, you either make luno, or you make progression, you can’t do both simultaneously
Whats the class?
They are letting us recolour the top tier cosmetics "SOON TM"
powercreep in fashion = fomo
3 weeks of selling welp, u can make like 50k a day
kidding, there are probably better fashion pieces in the future i hope
I have crab at 5 because I got so many of that one from the will wish x-x
Yes, spec from verdant oracle
Thank you ^~^
"Only 1m"
im saving my will wish bc crab is gonna lose value for me as a SB when season 2 has better options
You can optimally make 62k per day, but that’s not gonna get you to whale territory
its ez smh, just play
yeah I used crab for my SK before I got tempest
Aki is just rage baitting at this point
and I have a billion boxes for the purple imagines so .. eh
fr
Bro lost argument now he went into rage baitting territory
Purple is purple… Gold is Gold
This is a red orbs selling message no? Not entirely sure
I can check
tyyyy
i made like 3-4mil with ease since launch tho ecluding the meowlux tix
It is, but if you want it this week you gotta buy extra from market
also, i dont have the lv90 weapon, i dont have enpugh luno to get it atm, besides its not worth
Congrats i guess, like everyone else
tyvm for confirming 
Crab is gonna be replaced by this or this
From luck? Like will drops? Because most of us never get a gold will drop
all mine goes to books .. but I don't claim I don't spend 
Too lmao
(stuffs them both in pocket and sidles off)
Cabbage
Im addicted to books, gotta level up my beat and verdant to max 💪
my wills never sold 😭 but it does make sense, its been over 60 or 70 days since launch, thats at least 4mil luno
Dont care its gonna be cheaper later
My verdant is maxed, working on SK now
at the end of the day just dont claim f2p if you're not f2p imo
W
All skills on 6?
nothing wrong with being a whale or spender
W, mine is at 3/6
so ur 3-4m is excluding meowlux tix?
Bc i started levelling up the necessary skills for my beat to be usefull
My main class isn’t maxed on books yet sadly… I already got 5 t6 skills, but I need 3 more
couldve gotten more with?
i cant afford to whale though lmao all i got is the pass and card, and i said f2p cuz my f2p caught up to me and some even surpassed me so 🤷♂️
yeah I invested some into a mage [will go back to that eventually] but SK is more fun
this theres is no shame in paying for the game, no 1 cares if youre f2p i promise u.
if anything it shows u put so much time into the game outside things that matter like BILLS.
Mods keep powercreeping bills
yeah, i got to like 6mil with the tix, and then bought the fish mount
Ur just changing what you said so you can end up as the "correct one" at this point...
I guess some people just get stupidly lucky with the market 🤷🏻 but those of us who do the math get nothing in the end
Season pass, monthly pass, rose orbs unbound to sell..
guess we shouldnt do math 
legit the only unbound luno I've gotten in any good amount was from selling orbs. that got funneled into books.
Guess not
u can swipe 1.99 on a surfboard you still are no longer f2p
i saw someone get gold mats for like 3 days in a row 💀
On the other game I play there's a badge that offers you your first purchase bonus. If you don't have that badge, you aren't f2p.
My friend whaled for a good while, but his f2p account was one of those lucky, the f2p account surpassed his main in lunos now lmao
Yeah, that’d trigger me for sure
there are 2 different categories tho, cosmetic and statboosting, u can spend 10k on cosmetics and still be f2p statwise though, lot of people are like that, in fact most maybe
Nope
i still am, forced 2 pay
f2p is f2p, and spending is spending

p2w guys who just wanna enjoy game
f2p guy who treat this as a 2nd job to prove it someone on discord?
And since you did the season pass you can't claim you only got cosmetics out of it..
p2w in this game very acceptable, since theres no PvP
The funny this is… both my food alts have made 1mil luno in just 2 weeks… But… None of that luno gets spent
basically people just pay to help others
i guess maybe not anymore but its still very much possible to get to 30k assuming u bought refinement mats and lv90 weapon w ur unbound luno
i mean idt anyone was contesting that, if anything the game itself is very f2p friendly considering its half leaning into gacha genre
Oh gawd… Could you imagine if there was…
includimg reclaim hub? 😭
I would not be here. X'D
then it would just be clash royale
unless it was like an arena mode. that I'm fine with. [aka both parties consent to the match]
Nah man, I’m just referring to unbound luno… Their bound luno like 3mil
literally tho, it gives a lot of AS 😭
people in here have said 30k is whale territory, so I don't believe that your friends at 30k+ are f2p. lol
i mean most of the p2w things can be mitgated for pvp.
like void/emblems completely useless in pvp.
imagines turned off.
set gear stats.
rest is just skill and positions and rebalacing skills that would normally be OP in PVE and fix it for PVP
All if not most mmorpgs do that
Because 30k is whale territory… No one I’ve ever engaged with who is 30k has ever claimed to not be a whale
ehhhh, im pretty sure its doable if u buy the weapon, lemme ask em lol
unbound luno and unbound orbs are not that common
actually what if u just check how much as gain u get from the weapon
asking them doesn't mean a thing. people lie all the time lmao
yush
its doable, but all extremely luck that will eventually run out.
Unpopular opinion - Anyone who does more damage than me is a whale (spoiler: I fat finger buttons sometimes)
u can be number 1 f2p and lose it just bc uve been unlucky on refines or pulls for 2 months straight
and u can put all the hard work u want
They probably just gas lighting Aki by saying they f2p when they aren’t
or you can swipe your card and claim to be f2p
im f2p
is there any like, super high value package to buy much moreso than others
eww does that mean u have ugly clothes?
i didnt buy anything but i could spend like 10 or 20 bucks if its amazing
the ugliest
i just bought the cheaper pass for the outfit and the monthly card for the tax evation on shop
yeah i had to work so much harder than others cuz im extremely unlucky, still dont have perfect bis gear sadly 😭
luck > wallet in this game oof
Can you elaborate your question more?
i cant, im just speaking in general
so ure not f2p
nono im f2p statwise
Whatever gets me to my destination with enjoying my gameplay idc if I'm f2p/p2w
literally aki right there
so strong 🤧🤡
The most valuable thing under $20 is probably the premium season pass
expensive
They said 10-20 dollars, just answering their question
if i could i spend 10 if i can skip 1 month of weekly raids and stims bc they getting boring at this point ;P
it costs like 25 here i cant afford it anymore well, that 100usd RO pack is 120usd here since they removed regional pricing, was 33 usd before
I wish we could take a break and still get 100% of the items we missed…
100%
should have a month grace period
like if u missed last weeks raid your raid should be 2x reward or something
saddly same over here
this reminds me how much of it does reclaim shop gove, ive never really missed important stuff idk
People were abusing the regional pricing apparently..
ohhh where r u from if i may ask
gatekeepers would lose their minds over that
I'm in
what different things it gives than the normal pass with 10€?
Brasil
Dolar has a 5x multiplier for us lmao
Did you check the main website? There’s an 8% discount… And if you’re on google play as a heavy spender… 30% discount
thats nothing, ur so lucky 😭 its 45x for me
not 4-5, FORTYFIVE
The reason they got ride of regional pricing is because someone decided to abuse it via VPN
gatekeepers need to grow up, bp ego is nothing to flex about
They abuse it in every game. No surprise
one of the reasons, but apparently they never intended for there to be regional procong in the game, Aplus staff wasnt aware epic had regional pricing to begin with, or so theyre saying
The funny part was the guy made a post about it in this discord, telling everyone how to
yeah.. on the one hand game prices are crazy anyways but it ruins it for those who actually live in those areas ... XD I've never done it so.
i mean if someone is going to whale, they prefer they get the whole cake than just one slice
No surprise. People love to show off but they always forget it'll come back to bite them in the ass
india?
I saw that post.. X'D
Disgusting
Tell me more so I learn how to avoid it
turkey welp
Yeah, they could’ve stayed quiet and no one would’ve been the wiser
oo
has anyone gotten damage stack module? I feel like i never seen this. Is it rare
they expect me to pay 120usd for a 92usd pack while avg monthly salary here is 600usd max
Never seen it=common
I haven’t, but I know someone who has
monthly salary is $600? yikes
Meh u can get away with f2p anyways
Btw, the Life Wave is rarer, and I got 3 of them
yeah haha, people can barely save up 100usd over 6 months
btw how are these "enchacted" modules better than normal ones?
where do people live to only make 600 a month?
Brazil
ye but i want the cosmetics so bad 😭 cant afford them anyways, the only ones i can afford are the pass and card cosmetics, as for the gacha ones, only if im lucky woth the f2p pulls
I miss making 2.2k per month
turkey, most domt even make 600, way below
Not required
have u heard of Venezuela?
he said usd, that 600 in brazil could really mean 2000 dpending on living expenses and other ellements
Yes and Brazil still gets fucked as well
u can make 90k at california and still be poor bc a studio is 3k a month
800usd rent, +1k for bills and other expenses, and u only make 600usd a month
oh well 💀
Mhm… Or 70k where I’m at and not even be able to afford rent
pretty much so its a detable concept
that 600 might be decent where they are from
I'm extremely lucky with my rent and it's still a struggle. [Games are my entertainment; I don't go to movies or etc]
why do u think turkey has great healthcare, because it has a lot of doctors and healthcare workers, u cant live in turkey unless ur AT LEAST a nurse, at least, any lower and ur in debt
so everyones working as either an engineer or a healthcare worker
For me, games are both an addiction and pastime… My entertainment comes from live concerts and conventions
oof
3rd world contrys 
But nurses don’t get paid well… At least not when I’m from
1st world country and i gotta 40% of taxes
I've never been to a convention and my last concert was 30+ years ago. As time goes on I like being around people less so large crowds are a no for me.
hes prob putting into USD so you can have a sense on how much they getting
neither here, just enough to make ends meet
i usually do the same comparassion for people that dont understand what my currency is worth
Imagine making 100k but still not making a lot because you caretake a disabled wife
Couldn't be me
One of the artists I commission is from Brazil..
It’s kinda the opposite for me because I used to get excluded from stuff when I was younger, so I got that need to fill
or i just say "Imagine living in us but everything has a 5x multiplier"
its not worth of money but u have my respect
They really really loved me lols
each dolar of yours help them a lot i bet
I paid them $25/character for little pieces like this.
Rough out there that's why the amount u make is more so how much can u keep in your pocket after bills
W
they good at their art
they are! I love the pieces they drew for me so much
I just told them 'this is what the characters color scheme is and personality is ___' and let them do what they wanted lol
You can get art commissioned for just $25? I’ve always been hesitant when someone offers cause I expect hundreds
Will depend on the piece, the type, and the artist. (:
I just got lucky and saw them on Reddit offering arts and jumped on it.
No regrets, I love every piece they did for me and actually wanted more ... I should poke them.
lmao
Yup, even at US even
there was this famous artist here on dc, their art looked insanely good, i should find em
I doubt that’d work in my case, I’m too indecisive
just gotta invest in the smoll silly beans that want to start growing
also depends on the artist lmao
well I have a ton of OC's and I've never had art of most of them so ... I was getting chibis done of all these little chars. :3
And yeah some artists don't like that.
i've worked with 2 artists that you can just give a small description and they will work from there
this one took it an ran with it, to the point of even doing bg's eventually..
When I used to have a name, people commissioned me for around $150 - 300
What happened to your name… Did you lose it?
... I commissioned an artist I knew from Etsy [I had gotten emotes from them and loved them]. I will never, ever, do that again.
Traded it for a stable job lol
Yeah, fair
Probably might draw again one day but mostly for hobby at this point
Huhh? But.. You said you loved them… So what?
They tried to give me crap art that didn't meet their own examples and I had to push back hard [apparently it's a collective of artists but the samples are from the higher-talent people and.. the person who took up my work was not to that level yet?]
I'm fine with art that isn't amazing but if I spend a lot on it based on high-talent samples.. I want what I paid for? :p
I haven’t drawn since 2014ish, I keep telling myself I might try getting back into it but I think that’s just a pipe dream at this point
True, if you spend that much you expect high quality customer service both in the print and communication
I would've been fine if the samples had shown the .. variance.. and the prices reflected it 😛
Ohhh, that makes sense and is completely understandable… I would’ve been pissed as well
I pushed back and they eventually were like 'surprise here's your real piece'
there was some frantic arting over there, I think..
I've been on both sides of the coin so I understand both perspectives
It's enticing to upcharge your costs to do less commissions, but you need to have the responsibility to give 5 star service, otherwise there goes your credibility
There are artists who are really good, but never had the experience of committing to a vision that isn't theirs
This is completely random so you can ignore it if you wish … but I suddenly wondered if anyone has copied my username for their account yet…? 🤔
ADHD brain, you know how it be
heh yeah
And then when you do get back and try you can't really focus like you used to
My ADD brain can tell you that thought never crossed my mind 🤣 and there are prolly many Scyllas out there so maybe I copied somebody else wo knowing
ehhh i doubt it, urs is unique, first time seein it
lol same, i miss drawing flowers, they were my fave, i used to do a lot of acrylic paintings too, best i can do rn is a stickman lmao
I know when I started my account it was the only one, then I made a few alts with similar names… But I am kinda curious now
Same honestly, loved doing scenery backgrounds with anime characters
Yes! Still completely unique 
Now idek if I have the patience for that 
ive never really done anime welp, only like 5 at most and they sucked
multicolor tulips 😍
I mostly did perspective painting and realistic animals by colored pencil
oooh nice, what was ur fave animal to draw
Ughh, Idk… My first was a tiger in 5th grade which the school kept… then my second favorite was a koala. The hardest piece I remember doing was a micro paint of an orchid mantis on a 1 inch rock
I love arts but I have the skill of a potato
My skills are probably potato at this point but I would love to get back doing this again one of these years
i love potatoes
who doesnt love potatoes
people who died from potatoes
eh?
potatos can super-kill you
yes
huhhh
That’s really good! This is honestly the best I got…
they're part of the nightshade family
"Solanine is a glycoalkaloid poison found in species of the nightshade family within the genus Solanum, such as the potato (Solanum tuberosum). It can occur naturally in any part of the plant, including the leaves, fruit, and tubers. Solanine has pesticidal properties, and it is one of the plant's natural defenses."
the potato???
That's still good
Yes
wthh that looks so prettyyy
whaaa, i thought it got poisonous only after it sprouted, no?
I was fn hard, 1 square inch, 3 hrs of work
it's the greenish parts of potato if they're exposed to light or smtg.. :p you can look it up
it's fascinating but scary lol
mostly will just make you sick, but it can kill if you're not careful.
The leaf is also super poisonous. Its part of the nightshade family.
i had no idea...
worthhhh, looks so pretty, love the pink
Yeah, also the long term damage from consuming the toxin is irreversible
short lesson: be careful with plants from the nightshade family. they fight back.
long lesson: the goose is never wrong
That’s how they look in the wild, that’s the orchid mantis for ya
also be wary of geese. :p they fight back too.

it's almost Christmas, you know.. goose is great at Christmas...
yummy🤤
orchids, not the mantis welp
first time seein a pink mantis tho, so pretty
have you seen crab spiders? they're gorgeous
and change colors..
no thanks 😭
aw. they're pretty
still a spidey 🥲
they live on flowers so their colors match the flower
i cant even touch ants or flies welp
white pink or yellow I think
finally after an eternity
gzzzzzz

Congratz, only 10 gold trophies to go
I need 2 more.. aiming at the master dungeon ones.. eventually
F that costume… I only ever got the mask
only got the sneakers
The 550 one was easier than I expected… Already 610 in tina with just 27k AS
I've only done up to M6
I think my class may have something to do with it as well…
oh wait that ones easier, i havent done above m9, forget the dungeon costume trophy in that case rahhh
Yep 👍 F that achievement
Speaking of Tina…. she can be a real beach when she wants to be, so be careful… while climbing up through m14 she gave me an invisible sigil 4 times in a row and instantly cleaned it, rooting me in place and testing my iframe timing Hard… It really sucked ngl
I ran m6's yesterday [12 of them, 2 of each] and did 9 with a guildmate. We did fine the first Tina's.. and then she wiped us so hard into the ground the 2nd time through.
she was ANGRY. it was hilarious
anyone know "loom of dream" skills to pick as healer to deal insane dmg ?
Oh for sure, where do I start?
believe it or not tinas my fave dungeon lmaooo
The first one is the Expertise-Initial, then after that grab any skill that converts healing to damage and anything that drains hp
beginning, thanks
Also, don’t neglect base stats
PR was 33m dps (2.3B total in a round)
But had to fight another competent healer for kills
the expertise starting one, lvl 1 kanamia archer as ability, spear of benediction/sacred flame strike, spend a lot on the stats (haste/crit/expertise) expertise = mastery in loom of dreams; the ones that make your max hp go down a lot so you can heal yourself more
Or, if you’re a lucky based build you need luck more than crit
i think the luck build is less damage then the expertise build even if the lucky build gets really lucky with the rolls, but im not super sure since i cant run the dps meter in there
My PR was without expertise
i'm concerto/lifebind so my class is not luck based
well that makes it easy choice then
True, you’re also not a damage dealer
any loom guide for shield knight
Basically, grab anything that supports the healer
frostbeam/concerto/lifebind XD
Bruh, you left frostbeam out
ive been maxing black hole, taking resource regen, and all-class aura
but some said sk can also do great damage
That’s a great start. The less the healer has to move the better
Also, yes, if you’re using the crit build you can also go great damage, just not godly damage
i saw this but idk what they were running, i was building very poorly in this guild run
358k is not much given the ridiclous numbers healers can get to
but it is something
What floor was that? Those are really low numbers
i was 2 smite players get 4mil/s dmg
that was like day 1 of the event after we finished running nightmares so everyone was tired i think lol
For the record, floor one a disso should be around 500k dps, and smite around 1m dps
which substats can this get?
This is the chart of what you ‘can’t’ get
If you want to know the purple line, there a separate document for all that
Why is the skin locked in event shop
uhm, so is there even a chance to get luck if i cant get haste?
ye
it should be unlocked on the 15th, as to why they did that; i have no idea.
ive been wondering, i see people testing their dps on the elite guardian dummy, arent they supposed to test it on the elite dummy in the corner??? or are they both the same
should i switch this? i dont really need crit
might be best to ask in ur class's channel
Elite guardian is for tanks. That dummy hits back lol
why th are dd llayers testing on that one then 🤡
LMAOOO
Ask them not me lmao
Probably don’t know any better or they want to practice perfect dodging
what's the max score now from m11 and m15?
just do m16 for all
I have that saved I think hold on
finally a normal person.
thank you!
I don't know about normal but.. 
a normal response at least lol
do you have all the way to 20 by chance?
m16 is enough to get mount
yeah but i wanna know
yaeh jk lol
20 is like kraken territory
I only have this one, sry. It was posted in here and I snagged it.
been hearing this even before we got m1
so is everything doable until m19? lol
no clue I've only done m6 lol
Numbers go brrr
HAHAHA ikr
how tf
do u want the meme answer or the true answer
i want it dm'd so it doesnt get nerfed
LOL
YEP
I want both 
Meme answer - Iaido supremacy, best class in the game, outheals lifebind, out dpses marksman, out aoe's frostbeam :woke:
true answer - CN adept trial build ( it wont be nerfed ) where healers become gods
you just take the heal -> damage buff
then stack healing buffs thats it really
so a lifebind with no books just does uber dmg?
:yep:
smite outheals lifebind though
but im uh
not just no books but no skill levels
wtf
and my stats isn't even
good for smite
LOL
im crit / haste unreforged
21k rating
are u using the maxroll build?
ya the raid one
but the funny thing is
this is actually very good for farming bound luno
interesting
this event is basically "regardless of what u do, a healer will out dps you"
ive tried concerto / lifebind / smite so far
smite > lifebind > concerto imo
beating last boss easily?
practically soloed last boss on smite
lol
its actually ridiculous oiuashjdfaoius
5 smites incoming
TRUE...
when does the build start to come together? round 3?
i remember 2 shotting the round 5 boss so it's before round 5
was already top dps from round 1 tho
but i wasnt doing 99999999 until round 3-5 area
interesting
@wraith stag Do you use exit lag? :/
i did the trial a long time ago thats about it XD
its like 5$ per month and me brokie
My meter stopped working because of it but i did a reccomended setting change and still nothing :[
it can break dps meter? o-o
somethign to do with packet handling
for dpsmeter by denoder
Using ddog one - does it mean restart exitlag or bpsr? Guess i can do both xD
no idea
id assume restart meter
id assume vpn is already on admin to begin with and thats why meter needs admin privs
how soo
do u know if logs work w lag
malwarebytes hates logs with a passion so i dont even bother with it
bpsr logs???
yeah
ehh why
wdym?
because the author put his bitcoin address in the code to donate to him so it flags it as a bitcoin miner
ah like how exactly they deal more dmg, i still havent checked loom out
is that such a bad thing
When you go in theres a buff that converts healing into damage
its not but im not gonna fight bytes to put it on the allow list when others work the same without the hassle
ohhhh just like the previous one then?
what even is bytes
do you know what that one is called?
malwarebytes
idk what that is, is it some sort of antovirus app
yeah its basically an antivirus
no but if i recall it's at the top left
you get to pick it on floor 1
i still like it cuz it has the most options and customizafions out of all the meters ive used so far
it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than the last one
letting you easily hit 9999999999 damage aoe
wthelly
you are also guaranteed it on floor 1
and what do dps players do
look cute

windivert isnt what gets flagged tho cause dpsmeter doesnt get flagged by logs does
LMAO
insane
worth the hassle imo, its so good
the best
personal preference
it also has themesss
i made mine pink w white textsss, also lets u upload fonts
u can even view ur history and upload it to a website w a ranking
all of that is bloatware
i dunno what that means but im loving it haha
also u can view history on all of them
I use PSO meter and absolutely love it
isnt this the original one that CN uses and all others are forks of?
I think not 100% though
Hey i had some questions, where does all the serious roleplay go on at and is there an emoting sequence like /rp ingame or is it just asterisks?
channel 1/2
and no
change the network device to that.

oh? could u share a linkkk
DMs
@delicate ferry Nopers :{
or reboot it all again after change maybe
Exit lag turned off and its not working at all now xD
yeah change it, then reconnect to exitlag, relaunch game and meters.
it fixed it for me straight away on both meters
logging and meter lol
Ok - setting changed - Exitlag relaunched - now to open the game and cross my fingers.
open game and then open the meter ye
Its not working BUT maybe i should reverse the changes i made to exitlag from earlier advice...
perhaps, i didnt change anything on exitlag lol
bingo we back in business

Now i too can see the madness that happens in the loom
What's the shortcut button to edit the Homestead ?
H
Tank you, was stuck for so long ;_;
Np
So i went to channel 1 to see roleplay? Its just a bunch of people either dancing around the concert mount talking ooc or talking ooc at the beach with most everyone else afk under umbrellas
That aint roleplay bro
channel 101 is roleplay, I'm pretty sure
Its deserted
want invited to their discord so you know when they host events?
Yes that would be great!
Anyone know the drop rate for the dungeon skins and the boar mounts?
obscenely low. [I don't know the exact %]
Does the healing damage stuff work in Loom for Shield Knight?
I dont wanna invest gear into a class i wont play ;^;
Im pretty sure yeah
not as good as oracle, but its viable I've been told
Not sure what got changed recently, but constantly crashing if I've got more than like 30 people rendered is actually wild. Lowered it from 55 and reduced graphics settings and unity is just shitting the bed
next season, since its a track reward from hitting that master score threshold
How do we get the special currency to buy cosmetic loot box in event?
do only healers matter in loom of dreams
pretty much
Is there a guide for Loom of Dreams for a tank for what to choose?
just blackhole
pick like aoe dmg when hit and dmg based off hp and armour
If you got a healer take like increased dmg but lose hp and stuff
sacrifice all mortal posessions to the healer
get all buffs / debuffs
and max black hole
for love of god can ppl not pick slow/stun or that barrier thing that hinders movement
LOL
pretty sure some people play this game just to click reject on trial load
Important question, where is mattymat at
is the point of m11+ only for master score?
yes, for mount
i see
is it just me or they doin ppl dirty with the masters mount - it ugly :p
this is him straight on

to each our own
he sniffed too much glue
if you dont like it, then no need to push any master
crack fox

tbh i thought the meow token horse thing was ugly too but after awhile it grew on me alittle
i like the fox, hes jus a lil goofy
I mean its not like they dont know what cool looking mounts we actually want
because they know
$$$$$$$$$
q- im bout to start the game for first time
I am a big fan of
Dot builds
or
Summon builds (makes animal/monster fight for u)
can some1 tell me if that exists here if yes which class would that be
marksman is a pet class, you can go wildpack for puppies or falconry for birb
no dot classes unfortunately
also the closest thing to a dot class bc it has some bleeds
ty kweens
Hello 😄 i have a question about Loom of Dreams , ive noticed that some VO are doing like 10x dmg i do
is there anyone who knows which buffs i should take ?
marksman has a bleed i thought
i thought wild pack is a summoner + dot bleed class
oh well yeah, but not a DoT class in itself
your wolves do bleeds yeah
but not centered around it
most of your dmg comes from the actual wolves themselves
thats why 2 purple imagines are your BiS ones, because they buff wolves the most
best of both worlds
expertise initial offering, then like, sacred flame. n just like inceease mastery n healing, and heal everything to death. the kanamia archers are good too
ok thanks , guess i will try
Someone did the event loom of dreams?
yes
can some1 forward me the skill tree best for the wolf build
swapping to falconry #biased

So cute
is this bannable ?
yes
any nice guides out there on good pickups for loom of dreams?
realised I might not be doi ng optimal pickups when a lifebind came in and destroyed most of us
Initial buff expertise
Then just get a kanamia archer skill and stack healing potency buffs
And up mastery
this event is just primed for healers [smite and beatmasters] 😄
well i'll do my best i guess
Did they unlock m15 in the global ?
yes
just stronger enemies
ok thx
Kinda lazy with it lol
Shuda just kept m10 and if we want a challange we remove gear 😂😂😂
Same equivalent zzz
Anyone manage 6/6/6 modules
With 4 purps ?
what's the fastest way to raise as
Depends on account state and goal really
for most it's reforge 80 gear to 100 and get 80 raid set
gear gives the most
Swipe
Hola buenas 👋, se que no me van a entender por el tema del idioma pero quisiera si se puede que me respondan: ¿de cuanto es el drop rate de las skins en las mazmorras?
0.3%
probably
is that asking about shadow hunter
ya
It's definitely lower rates than 1/200
for as many as I've seen complain about low droprates I've also seen a decent amount of people talk about how they got most of their pieces in just a few runs
happy people are less likely to talk about it, so I assume it's 1/100
this is all speculation without dev given droprates after all
Personal experience is 1/300
personal experience for me is 1/225 for the one piece I've dropped
Ive dropped 4 pieces
I got 6/6 by 400 runs
Tina was the worst
Dragon second worst
Tower was just long
And goblin was just random
you've counted 1200 runs manually or you're just guessing?
I've counted
It took me 10 days to finish just getting mask
Tina I lost track after the 300 runs because it gave 3 achievements for running chaotics
you could just be that rare 1/?00 person to get super duper unlucky
lost the last picture but
ik i got one other piece on my first clear reward
so i got 3 as first clear
2 while farming for gear
1 i actually grinded for ( kanamia )
^
I'm clearly not the only one. And others that I know took 300+ on parts. Tina in specific is the hardest people say
clearly not the only one, but I know lots who say it took less than 100 to get 4 pieces
never seen this before, muku chief just dropped from up above and is now underground
ya it happens
pray the boss doesnt reset
happened to us on like day 4 of server
was so tilted
nah im not killing it rn, i was hunting gnappo
and muku chief didnt like that one bit
Sounds like he had beef lol
he just wanted the golden hat
LOL
Must be nice. But there wouldn't be a majority crying for pity on those drops if it only took 100 runs to get 4 pieces for most.
I got 4 pieces in less than 100 unironically, but I'd still say average is like
1/200 area
Just off what I'd seen from others
Not even people complaining about it per say
that's because all the people who had good fortune took their bag and left!
Nah it's more like all those who couldn't get it in 300 runs gave up and went to a different game
either way we have no numbers so it's all speculation
according to my calculations even with 1/100 droprate getting only 4 drops in 1200 runs is just a 1/200 chance
I got all 5 pieces in little over 900 runs.
this is a fair estimation as well
and would put that person into not very unlucky territory
just mildly unlucky
but I feel like I'd see a lot more people complaining about it if that was really the case, maybe I just overestimate the amount of people trying to actually obtain those items
1200/4=300
that is not how probability works
That's how basic fraction math works
yes, that is not probability however
I didnt wanna correct you on it but no, Dace is right.
is this ragebait
ok yeah but this assumes you are the only person ever
Ur going to assume 1200/4= 300 runs per
This is going on the case of 1200 runs total.
To calculate probability you divide the number of possible outcomes by the number of favorable outcomes.
In your example 1200 rolls and 4 successes. 1200 divided by 4 is 300, so 1:300 would be the rate
((6.350789 * 10^3175) / (24 * (3 * 10^3163))) * (.01^4) * (.99^1196)
if you shove this into your calculator you too will get .05 aka 1/200
if instead you want to say the binomial distribution formula is the wrong method of doing this, please say why
and this is not to calculate drop rate, but to calculate how unlucky Dace is
assuming 1/100 drop rate
assuming 1/200 droprate brings it to a much more acceptable number, though I didn't save that into a text file so you'll have to do the math yourself
I got like 400 points for completing the Loom of Dreams run (full clear). Is that the average you get, or higher 🤔
400-500.
It's based on kills.
Not bad then. The shop seems like it'll take forever to max out lol.
I guess I'll take out a full day to just do the Loom.
Takes about 30 minutes per run, u get about 400-500 per. So yeah it'll be a bit
Event exchange store, good rng
What do you guys think is the optimal way to enjoy the event while still getting most stuff? I did i think one run of the loom of dreams, quite a few dungeons and the weekly events with the postcards and berries, and have currently been able to buy 2 hats + reforge stones
I am at like 10/50 or so of each ash pack for the ritual since i discovered late that i should use them on the prayer thing instead of opening them in my inventory
how????
it's time you do the nightmare raids
Prayer and opening in inventory work the same
It also counts it towards the badge?
can confirm, it doesn't matter how you open the stones
It would be moronic if it didnt
just don't discard it
Ull be fine. Is ur emblem max?
It's insane we have the option to discard
and it's the first thing that appears




