#questions-and-help

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royal fog
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no

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weekly require any dif to be done

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so you can do it on nightmare for 2 birds one stone

umbral lintel
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Nightmare for ice and bone clears it yes. Only have to do hard light.

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Or easy light

wispy flax
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I dont really read the weekly quest myself, it just complete by itself

wind edge
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there's a lot of thing that doesn't say what's weekly what's the cap etc

vast bluff
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Wuh weekly quest ?

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I’m confused

royal fog
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you still need to to all dif for older throne to convert

wind edge
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guess we'll find out on monday

umbral lintel
vast bluff
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The daily quest?

umbral lintel
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It’s bundled with completing any difficulty raid

royal fog
vast bluff
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Thing u get to 500?

royal fog
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...

wispy flax
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yea its monday, u join easy raid reclear unga bunga party and the weekly quest just complete itself iirc

royal fog
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we're saying weekly, where does the daily come from?

vast bluff
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Oh

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The weekly raid drops?

umbral lintel
vast bluff
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LMAO

wispy flax
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confusion²

umbral lintel
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Any one got a screen shot of the quests? Hard to show them like this

vast bluff
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I’m genuinely confused

royal fog
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there's an weekly event quest for raid that started on monday

umbral lintel
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Easier to show on Monday when it refreshes

royal fog
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clear all dragon on any dif for extra reward

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it gave you a lvl 80 gear box, 3 totals

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36 shards total to craft void gear

vast bluff
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Oh

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That thing was weekly quest? 😭

royal fog
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yes

vast bluff
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Was still saying how nice for it to drop gear box

wispy flax
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random piece + random stat

royal fog
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and it should be back next week and the week after

vast bluff
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I’m at BIS

royal fog
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for the 3 dragon nightmare

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by then, we should be done converting older throne to gold (hopefully), thus making easy and hard raid redundant for most people

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event if the weekly quest is still there, you can do it on nightmare

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since you will have to do nightmare for gold throne and blue thingy

plain valley
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Has anyone else noticed that while you’re in a party, and the leader initiates a match…

Occasionally, you don’t even get the ready-up menu and instead auto decline… Or is that just me?

peak temple
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how much do people care about master score for m6

im almost 22k as but i didnt grind m5s and only got back today

wanton vortex
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people only really say 22-23k if they are farming but even then, most of the time i see no as requirement to farm gear at m6

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now they will care if its something like m9-m10

peak temple
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yeah i likely wont touch m10 until i got a full lvl80 build going but im still surprised i cant join a single m6

mortal estuary
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Does anyone know if this will also give us the 6480 first time bonus thsts in game?

wanton vortex
peak temple
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oh wait

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u can just match m6 directly

wanton vortex
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that too

peak temple
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woah

wanton vortex
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it's like m1

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can match with ppl

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I farmed gob m6 idk how many times and still didnt get a good earring piece fml AironaDone

peak temple
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makes sense its the first tier where new materials r unlocked

peak temple
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also i heard that m5 was in a buffed state before m6 release?

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cuz m6 rn feels way easier than m5 and idt its my gear diff

wanton vortex
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yeah it was because of the event, it was super buffed purely to make it challenging to get the badge/title

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thats why i said ur gonna be fine if ur at m6 already being 22k

peak temple
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makes sense

wanton vortex
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you can practically go to m10 atp

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its possible ThumbsUp

frigid horizon
peak temple
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??? lol

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incredible

remote narwhal
mortal estuary
remote narwhal
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if i aint getting 1st time purchase bonus, not worth it

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I'll keep checking here , maybe a mod can tell us for sure.

solemn bough
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do worldbosses drop lv80 gear?

frigid horizon
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the last six do

static orbit
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What is the max score for M10?

flat echo
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Did they change everfall forest to just 20 lines now?!

bronze parcel
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shouldn't dragon claw be above dark mist?

sullen frost
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nah

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dragon claw is next to goblin lair

rain comet
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The bug with number of channels still not fixed?

umbral lintel
umbral lintel
static orbit
rain comet
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can't farm bosses/elites

umbral lintel
sullen frost
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yea

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it checks how many ppl are in each area and generates lines as necessary

rain comet
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they need to fix elites at least then to make them shareable among all players (just like bosses)

sullen frost
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at one point asteria plains had like 400 lines

rain comet
sullen frost
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maybe the maintenance got rid of a bunch of perma afk people

wise ridge
umbral lintel
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Make a 20 man party for elite hunting lol. Chest drops for all party members

sullen frost
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the game did lose like 1000 player count on steam after the maintenance and it didn't recover

rapid wadi
regal storm
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anyone know of nappo locations?

pure nacelle
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im at 12000 gear power ~what dungeons should i start farming Thinking

barely done any dungeoning so far

wise ridge
wanton vortex
pure nacelle
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im newbie sorry

royal fog
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hi newbie sorry.
i am goose

pure nacelle
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m6 seems to be like, baseline for gear farming afaict

pure nacelle
wise ridge
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Master (6) unlocks for solo which provides lvl 80 gear

pure nacelle
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good to meet you

royal fog
vast bluff
wise ridge
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The personal gear progression goal is to get lvl 80 gear, refine and so on

Otherwise if you're satisfied with the game, you're good for now if you don't care for playing with others

rapid wadi
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And if you care, find friends or else you'll need 24k+ just for easy raids starting monday

pure nacelle
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it feels like i picked a bad moment to start Thinking

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LMAO

rapid wadi
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Nah, every monday is like this

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Or every other monday

pure nacelle
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Every other monday game is getting power spiked?

regal storm
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dose only on golden spawn at a time?

pure nacelle
rapid wadi
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Because its timegate walled everywhere

pure nacelle
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that seems unhealthy

wise ridge
pure nacelle
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like for the game i mean

pure nacelle
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or are some of these not important

rapid wadi
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Well because you need to forget the mmorpg concept, use gacha one, then it clicks

gusty panther
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if i have a Aplus account, can i link my crunchyroll to it?

rapid wadi
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Buy out everything since itll reset on monday too

pure nacelle
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LMFAO

rapid wadi
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You can dismantle stuff you don't need anyway

pure nacelle
rapid wadi
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It was marketed as an anime mmorpg

coral urchin
rapid wadi
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It already got like half the population down in 1 month

pure nacelle
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okay

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LMAO

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oh well

coral urchin
rapid wadi
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I can't imagine calling a daily chore game as an mmorpg with freedom, you just play until you get bored

pure nacelle
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i'll hf with it

coral urchin
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Since being f2p is perfectly fine

pure nacelle
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yeah i sink my wallet into enough gachas i mostly dl'd and blitzed to 60 to have a game to play with my SO ngl

rapid wadi
pure nacelle
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as long as f2p is fine i'll be aight

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ive had decent enough fun with it so far as a time burner

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anyways ty for advice regarding dungeoning and reclaiming

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sorry if i came off doom-esque

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yall have a good one

rapid wadi
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Nah, all is ok

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Same to you

sullen frost
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I promise I'll play more once finals is over

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it's not a good time to play an mmorpg for college students hahha

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it takes up soo much time

drowsy oyster
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will there still be higher node levels after lvl 60

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and what's the highest master score right now

coral urchin
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Reclaim everything else

sullen frost
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dailies yeah, but no time to grind out master score, raids, and gear

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bone nightmare is going to be fun

coral urchin
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Theres like no difference for bone nm tho

marsh venture
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Hellooooo can someone tell me how i can get in touch with the support/a team meber or something close to it?
I already submitted a ticket and DMd some of the discord staff here and no answer so far for days now 🤔

coral urchin
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Email takes days too

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Still waiting for my response

marsh venture
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Hmmm so nothing really works it seems?

wraith stag
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Most of what they said was wrong, shame nobody else called them out on it.

wraith stag
# pure nacelle is monday weekly reset? if so will i get like, noticable power bump?

On weekly reset players commonly do see a powerspike, how much stronger you will get depends on your progress and goals.
Since you are a newer player, the most important thing will be raid reset and weekly Reforge Stone reset, alongside the shops resetting.

Many of the shops have important things such as skill books that can be directly tied to power gain, guilld shops have focus potions which influences how much unbound luno you can gain.\

wraith stag
wraith stag
# pure nacelle Every other monday game is getting power spiked?

Every other monday there isn't a power spike, new content is accessible. People hate the idea of "timegate" but it's not that different from MMORPG that releases new content at certain time frames, it's just the idea of timegates that people hate and it's not a concept specific to Gacha game and foreign to MMORPG.

wraith stag
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Email them there, I got a response within hours but time taken to respond can vary.

quaint ermine
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Kithi at work

wraith stag
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LMAO hiiiii :D

quaint ermine
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Hi hiiii

wraith stag
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I was out all day yesterday and today just got on and i was like N-NANI?!! LMAO

quaint ermine
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KEKW

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sus answers

wraith stag
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The gatekeeping memes are getting out of control x.x

marsh venture
quaint ermine
wraith stag
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Yeah... and it's not like new players have a hard time either, they can reach 20k in a week which is plenty, most people let you run M6 at 20k which boosts you to 22k and now you are raid ready

pure nacelle
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for an mmo it feels like it'll cause burnout

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for a lot of people

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idt timegate in and of itself is foreign/bad

wraith stag
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The majority actually wants it to open faster believe it or not x.x

pure nacelle
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that sounds uh

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bad

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probably

wraith stag
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I personally feel we have tons of content but there are many who want endless grinds or many hours of content per day

pure nacelle
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ig i have the opposite of majority opinion tho ig ive also been playing for three days

wraith stag
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oooh welcome

quaint ermine
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NEW PLAYER??

pure nacelle
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tyty

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and ty for responses

quaint ermine
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THIS GAME GETS NEW PLAYERS

pure nacelle
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oh yes henlo

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tyty

quaint ermine
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most of the content you don’t do in the week

wraith stag
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Here are our important dates

quaint ermine
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You can reclaim the next week in reclaim shop

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with like 20% value lost

wraith stag
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That's why new players can hit 20k rating so fast ^^

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It took me over a month, now they do it in a week

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Often less

quaint ermine
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I haven’t done unstable in 2 weeks

wraith stag
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omg LOL

pure nacelle
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but upward curve probbaly slows

quaint ermine
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Did u reclaim the stuff in reclaim shop

pure nacelle
wraith stag
pure nacelle
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the reclaim shop got me from like 12k to 13.5k

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pretty much by itself

wraith stag
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If you can get to 18k, most likely by reforging and emblem shop reset then hitting 22k will be a breeze

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Because next week you can just

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have bots run you through M6 for 80 gear

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So even if you can't find a party since it's bare minimum requirements ( possible )

quaint ermine
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I need bots run me through M6

wraith stag
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You'd still be getting way stronger

pure nacelle
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most of my gear is 80 but its like hyper unoptimized 80 ngl

wraith stag
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o you went with 80 unique

pure nacelle
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i have uh, one level 60 bracelet, everything else is 80

wraith stag
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I'm actually wondering what's better these days, 80 uniques from shop or 60 legendary that can be reforged

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How much "Throne Gold" did you get from the reclaim shop? :o

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And did you get your raid gear yet?

shut rain
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Is anyone getting "failed to retrieve server list" error and can't login?

pure nacelle
pure nacelle
wraith stag
leaden garden
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how do you get a lvl 60 legendary wep in order to craft the level 70 wep? I already used the first clear box prior

lavish lantern
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a few runs of dark mist, guaranteed in 5 runs

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m1

wraith stag
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Yeah it's better

leaden garden
wraith stag
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If you are a Frostbeam you want uhh

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headgear / body / bracelets

pure nacelle
pure nacelle
wraith stag
pure nacelle
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more thing to make number go up

lavish lantern
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no you want gloves in place of either bracelet, crit > vers > haste for beam

wraith stag
pure nacelle
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(yall are mad helpful much obliged)

lavish lantern
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always has been

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realistically it's not a big deal one way or the other, you'll probably end up fixing it with reforges

wraith stag
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I think this is why Maxroll / couple on CN ran bracelet instead then, didn't know gloves would be better XD

pure nacelle
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i dont think ive unlocked the void thing

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to get that gear

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is it tied to a questline?

wraith stag
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There is a side quest for raid, not sure if you need to do that first but it takes like 5 minutes iirc

pure nacelle
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nod

timid mango
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This might be a stupid question but how exactly do I get the firerocket mount? Like it says I can obtain it as a "Master seal" process reward but I have no idea what that is 💔

lavish lantern
rapid wadi
wraith stag
wraith stag
keen robin
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Someone knows tha Weakness Nightmare Enhanced CD in Airona? Normally is 60 seconds but appears in the Description that is enhanced in Nightmare but doesn't specify how much

tender dune
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yeah basically if you get ressed once you won't again

keen robin
drowsy oyster
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will you get world boss points after already doing it once for the day?

rain comet
quiet comet
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Guys I'm trying to explain how Master Score works to my friends but we all seem to have different opinions.
Could someone provide me the correct explanation on how score is accumulated and calculated?

For example I say if we do M6 directly (as one of us already has it unlocked) it won't matter doing M1/5.
Other say we need to do M1/5 as doing M6 directly won't give us max scores in previous versions.

Any official sources on the matter would be amazing, thanks in advance.

umbral lintel
opal marten
umbral lintel
pure nacelle
sullen frost
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there is one master score for each dungeon. the highest master score you get in that dungeon is the one that'll be counted. Conveniently, the lowest master score you can get on the next master level is higher than the highest score you can get on the previous master level

for example, max score M9 gives less master score than lowest score you can possibly get by clearing M10.

pure nacelle
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cleared the request and the raid seems unlocked 1_Tyan_think

sharp frigate
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guys how to you plant more soil on the homestead. I have it level 2 but i don't know how to expand the soil.

keen robin
quiet comet
umbral lintel
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Make sure you actually collected the fields from your mail first

sharp frigate
keen robin
umbral lintel
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Game UI is terrible lol

sullen frost
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max M9 is 515

umbral lintel
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I’m sure there’s a table floating around somewhere in the Chinese forums but uhhhh don’t know where to look for it

keen robin
hollow briar
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What determants the merit cap for each person? I thought it was the characters lvl at first but it looks like that is wrong.

sullen frost
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I assumed it's the highest merits they could've possibly gotten so far in that week

umbral lintel
hollow briar
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But why can some only get 10 while others get 100? The guild cap is 7k

umbral lintel
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Each person can only get 70 merit max per day

keen robin
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The golden tickets are the merits

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For exmpler, doing Check-In is 10 Merits

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Guild Cargo is 20 merits

hollow briar
keen robin
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Activity Merits are this

umbral lintel
bold cypress
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yeah, the numbers represent

weekly obtained/total obtained since in guild

keen robin
umbral lintel
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The most merit you can gain in a week is 490 assuming you joined Monday.

wraith stag
royal fog
keen robin
remote narwhal
idle forge
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how many stellar core to craft that weapon?

keen robin
remote narwhal
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Mhm

sullen frost
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o

wraith stag
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wha

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516 isnt max score

remote narwhal
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M9

spice depot
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max m9 is 516 yes

wraith stag
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unless thats 9

remote narwhal
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Cant read?

keen robin
remote narwhal
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Even put the cursor on it for ya

keen robin
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Best Record: 9

spice depot
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Lol

keen robin
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That's the Master Level

wraith stag
keen robin
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My beautifull Goblin M10 Min. Clear is 1 point above

remote narwhal
pure nacelle
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i just never bothered to walk in and look beyond checking map for it

idle forge
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Omg 100 pcs of Glinting stellar core to craft the weapon?

pure nacelle
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im probbaly blind im negl

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ty for ur help <3

umbral lintel
idle forge
wraith stag
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yayy

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For the weapon, you need a level 60 weapon max reforge ( unequipped ) then you can make a 70 legendary weapon

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and for the gear you can just craft it

pure nacelle
wraith stag
pure nacelle
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or is it just dungeon and prayge

idle forge
wraith stag
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should have it guaranteed

umbral lintel
idle forge
pure nacelle
idle forge
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oh only in season 1

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meh

spark niche
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that's the point, the lv100 weapon is for showers

wraith stag
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LOL

idle forge
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so its like sidereal weapon in lost ark

keen robin
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We (F2P players) will need to every Nightmare raid in 6 - 7 months to get the LV.100 Weapon

rough gyro
spark niche
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it's pointless to aim that thing

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it's literally for skin showcase

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and a flex

wraith stag
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I will get it for the fashion tyvm

rough gyro
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Hmm yeah that’s bad design then lul

idle forge
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damn

wraith stag
wraith stag
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If it was P2W and F2P couldn't get it at all, that's the bad design

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And then whales who spent a couple thousand to get a 10% DPS increase

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only have it for a month before s2

idle forge
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nothing else to whale on this game

keen robin
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The funny thing is not even whales can get it

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Because the low offer in Trading Center

idle forge
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will the refine on gears will reset on season 2 or just increase

wraith stag
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They should be able to get it after a month if they watch trade center

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Refine for gear increases

rough gyro
keen robin
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Can't wait to have 10% Base Refine and only be able to increase it to 35% 💀

wraith stag
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true, I don't like the current weapon skins

idle forge
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what if u unequip that weapon? so no mor skin or its like glamour

raven zealot
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There’s a new refine success material in season 2

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And it gives 5% and you can add as much as you want

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And it only costs like 6k each

keen robin
raven zealot
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Easily mass produced

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Moss mechs are completely dead

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Only idiots buy those

spark niche
# idle forge nothing else to whale on this game

since the beginning the market is the whale point. The game ain't p2w cuz there isn't content to win at all, it's all pve and friendly fun. But I find really funny that people were like "omg they're so generous, there's literally nothing that can give them revenue, how will they keep the game alive without things tos spend??? I don't think skins are enough :o!!!!"

that one guy who bought 100m unbound luno: WeirdEyes

remote narwhal
raven zealot
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People still saying this game isn’t p2w

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It’s unabashedly p2w

wraith stag
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I don't think it's p2w

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Unless how you define p2w is like

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enough to consider practically every game to be p2w

idle forge
wraith stag
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whalesong

idle forge
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fak me ahahha

spark niche
raven zealot
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The game literally has a currency exchange that is intended to let you bypass time gates

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And other systems like imagines where you straight up buy power

spark niche
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if they join raids, they're carrying people, everyone wins

wraith stag
spark niche
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if they join dungeons, same thing

raven zealot
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by your logic, Maplestory is not p2w either

spark niche
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if they do field boss, same thing

wraith stag
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F2P can get it in a reasonable amount of time

frigid horizon
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the only p2w part of the game is city rally, imo. its the only place spending money gives you an advantage vs other players

raven zealot
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Because it’s a pve game

wraith stag
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It's more Pay to do a little bit more damage

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how is this p2w

opal marten
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It’s not p2w

wraith stag
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Like, if your standards are that low then everything is p2w

raven zealot
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F2P won’t hit max refine

wraith stag
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oh no they spent 3000$ to get 10% more dps

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whatever will i do

raven zealot
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Literally everyone who whales on this game will tell you it’s p2w

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But amazingly people who don’t whale still defend it as not p2w

idle forge
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i only whale on cosmetics

royal fog
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i only whale on geese

opal marten
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I whale and it’s not p2w

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Satisfied?

idle forge
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4k wardrobe point XD

void jacinth
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I whale and it's not p2w

royal fog
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i whale and its not p2w

wraith stag
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LOL

raven zealot
royal fog
wraith stag
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ngl best counter argument he coulda had

spark niche
raven zealot
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I also doubt any of you whale

rough gyro
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My take, is game has p2w elements but also F2p friendly if that makes sense. Not mutually exclusive

raven zealot
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Or post AS and stuff for proof

void jacinth
opal marten
frigid horizon
royal fog
raven zealot
wraith stag
raven zealot
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Companies don’t need to defend anything any more when people are this brainwashed

frigid horizon
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its not p2w bc its pve, thats still possible without swiping.

wraith stag
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^

spark niche
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it's just not a competition

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ur creating it

raven zealot
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Okay so Maplestory isn’t p2w either

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Since it’s all pve

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No competition

wraith stag
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Im thinking he's just salty he lost to a whale or something idk

opal marten
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In all seriousness the logic of people saying it’s p2w is really ppl spending to help you win idk how this harms anyone

spark niche
royal fog
rough gyro
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Praise be our our whale companions :3

opal marten
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I had a 28k+ gs whale in my m6 Tina farm and we nuked it before any mechs do I care? No

raven zealot
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Yeah no wonder monetization in gaming is cooked

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People can be confronted with blatant p2w and deny it exists

wraith stag
void jacinth
opal marten
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😛

rough gyro
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Isn’t the monetization in this game really bad hence not revenue numbers disclosed?

wraith stag
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it is

raven zealot
rough gyro
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So not p2w enough if revenue is doing the talking

opal marten
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If the game is so p2w show me a whale 1 shot pink pig

spark niche
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I'd define this game as a pay 2 fast or some shit, the game is not a sprint, it's a damn marathon, but people can pay to advance if they want.

raven zealot
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Just because you like the game doesn’t mean you must defend it to the death as non p2w

rough gyro
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Monetize multi hits, that’s an idea

wraith stag
raven zealot
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p2fast is the new sanitized definition of p2w

solar remnant
spark niche
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no, p2fast exists since orkut

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ur just young

raven zealot
wraith stag
wraith stag
solar remnant
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when is serenei dumping 90k orbs on my account

raven zealot
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Take your argument to the logical extreme and realize how stupid it sounds when it implies that any pve game is not p2w because there’s no direct competition

wraith stag
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Whales take 1 month to get ocean weapon, S2 is in a month and a half

raven zealot
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Whales take a month only because the system hard time gates you

wraith stag
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so..

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whales pay to lose

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omg!!!

raven zealot
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If you want to f2p an ocean weapon, it’s literally half a year

wraith stag
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and I'm fine with that

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also technically untrue

raven zealot
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You know that ocean weapon is upgradeable in s2 right

wraith stag
#

f2p can buy off market too if they wanted

raven zealot
wraith stag
raven zealot
#

How the fuck is f2p getting 100m luno

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In a reasonable time frame

wraith stag
#

they dont need 100m?

opal marten
#

There’s no incentive for a f2p to NEED it

raven zealot
#

Okay let’s cut it to 50m

opal marten
#

What content needs to weapon to be clearable

umbral lintel
#

For 100m, you can get so much more power elsewhere like imagines for example lol

wraith stag
#

^

umbral lintel
#

The weapon is just to look cool

royal fog
raven zealot
#

Moving the goalposts at this point

spark niche
raven zealot
#

The original point is that f2p is not acquiring it in a reasonable time frame before it is long since obsolete

rough gyro
#

Crafters maybe have 5m-10m? So maybe still 5-10months and breaking the bank to upgrade :3

opal marten
#

There isn’t any content that can be listed where you need the weapon

opal marten
#

It’s a gg

wraith stag
#

LOL

royal fog
raven zealot
#

? 5 weeks is reasonable

wraith stag
compact lily
#

again this guy with the p2w thing?

raven zealot
#

…..you realize it is upgradeable

wraith stag
#

a-again?

raven zealot
#

100-140 upgrade is available at the start of s2

wraith stag
raven zealot
#

How is it not reasonable for whales

compact lily
#

yeah it's like the 5th or 6th time trying to convince everyone the game is p2w

raven zealot
#

They will be up to date on the weapon

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By the time f2p makes level 100, the cap will be like 200+ lol

wraith stag
#

i give up

raven zealot
wraith stag
#

last thing ill say on this

raven zealot
#

By the time the whales are on 200+

umbral lintel
#

You could just..not get it as f2p?

raven zealot
#

Yes, you aren’t supposed to get it as f2p

opal marten
#

How is it behind if there’s no content that will require it ~~ logic is so flawed its crazy

umbral lintel
#

Like ignore the weapon

raven zealot
#

But their argument was “f2p can get it in a reasonable time frame”

spark niche
raven zealot
#

Which is categorically false

solar remnant
#

f2p can get it when it becomes obsolete

royal fog
#

do the new season 2 dungeons drops any 120+ weapons?
or is the weapon solely locked behind the 100 and upgrading it?

raven zealot
#

I don’t need to defend the game as non-p2w just because I spent

spark niche
raven zealot
#

Well it’s the same loop as season 1

#

Each dungeon drops different gear

compact lily
raven zealot
#

Dungeons slowly unlock

umbral lintel
opal marten
#

Grass is green btw

royal fog
raven zealot
bold cypress
#

I think everyone sees P2W as a moral insult, it's pretty safe to say most MMOs have a soft P2W aspect 🤷‍♀️

spark niche
# raven zealot I don’t need to defend the game as non-p2w just because I spent

bro think we love the game and that we think it's the best thing in the world, the game is a shitfest, the loops is pretty bad, classes are badly balanced, history sucks, menus are convoluted, controls and hud are weird, auto is stupid, I don't give a shit about this game, but one thing I know, it's NOT p2w. Tell me something you can "win" with all the money you spend?

raven zealot
#

And 100-140 is only 20 mists

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90 weapon is dead though

royal fog
#

i see

raven zealot
#

Immediately obsoleted by level 120 purple even

#

Double the stats

umbral lintel
#

I’m here because of Stockholm syndrome

compact lily
#

we're complanining something that hasnt been implkemented yet

remote narwhal
opal marten
#

It wouldn’t be Saturday without a doom post

raven zealot
spark niche
#

it's totally a bait, but it's funny

royal fog
#

im just here to honk

spark niche
cursive tapir
#

as a skyward wk is flag rotation better even if ur under 30% atk spd

alpine tangle
#

Saying this game doesn't have p2w elements is silly.

Rn f2p players ate capped at maybe 24K, spending can get you to like 28 atm.

There is a paid for advantage. Seems like a redundant argument?

raven zealot
#

What question is being dodged

opal marten
#

What is we agreed it’s p2w will the conversation be over?

raven zealot
#

p2w isn’t just about “winning” in the sense of competition

opal marten
#

Guys

#

It’s p2w

#

Gg

raven zealot
#

But gaming companies have somehow brainwashed useful idiots into carrying water for them

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If you pretty much implied with your definition that games like Maplestory aren’t p2w, then your definition is an absolute joke

solar remnant
#

its p2w in a sense that u can buy power in a short amount of time that would otherwise take a lottt of time (t5 gold imagines, ocean)

raven zealot
#

BPSR is on the same spectrum, just not as far as your typical Korean mmorpg

opal marten
raven zealot
bold cypress
#

the issue is people view 'P2W' as a moral judgment and personal insult instead of a design description, every modern MMO monetizes time, power, convenience, or progression. thats it 🤷‍♀️

compact lily
raven zealot
#

Denying that p2w exists in any form is just delusional

wraith stag
# alpine tangle Saying this game doesn't have p2w elements is silly. Rn f2p players ate capped ...

Yeah this sounds about right, F2P is around 24k and whales are 27-28k

But alot of that is "padded" in the form of armor Refinement.

DPS wise it's not an insane difference, all they really have is the T5 imagines really and lvl 6 all skills.

It does have P2W elements but isn't a P2W game, it's pay to get slightly ahead.

I know a dude who spent 400$ to lvl 6 all skills, now I have lvl 6 important skills, maybe he has 0.1% more dps than me skill book wise lol.

raven zealot
remote narwhal
compact lily
tender dune
#

if you played since launch 24k is very doable for f2p

alpine tangle
wraith stag
alpine tangle
#

I haven't spent a cent and im on 23.6K rn

wraith stag
#

22k is low for day 1

spark niche
# raven zealot Denying that p2w exists in any form is just delusional

we never said it doesn't have paid content, never said you can't spend money to get stuff people won't get without spending, we are just implying that in our point of view it's not p2w since there is no competition to begin with, it's just our view, you can disagree and you can disagree with us, but you know

#

ur right Serenai

#

Oh lord serenei, the biggest brain of them all, the game is totally pay 2 win, OMG I NEVER REALIZED 😮 Thank you for enlightening us mere mortal humans with your knowledge beyond measure!

wraith stag
compact lily
#

but we're disagreeing while agreeing rn

wraith stag
alpine tangle
#

Yritte I think you are arguing a point no one is making?

compact lily
wraith stag
#

oh LMAO

compact lily
alpine tangle
#

Hahahahaha nbd nbd xD xD

compact lily
#

went to another chat and returned

royal fog
solar remnant
#

in a pve game such as this, u can think of the win in p2w aspect for something like clearing faster, speedruns, who has the fastest clear, biggest numbers

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becasue there is no pvp

raven zealot
#

^

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It’s okay though

deft kiln
alpine tangle
#

When people start asking for 3400+ Mastery for groups then we can say its pay to win hahahahaha

drowsy oyster
#

how do i cram this lol

raven zealot
#

Today I learned games like Maplestory and Lost Ark are not p2w because you can’t “win” anything since they are pve!

solar remnant
#

not everyone wants the fastest clears, biggest numbers, its mostly a casual game but if u want that and want to compete for it, u need to 💳

raven zealot
opal marten
#

this gotta be satire atp

solar remnant
deft kiln
alpine tangle
#

I think people have different definitions of p2w.

This ticks the box in my head because you can pay for a performance advantage over other players, doesn't matter whether or not its competitive.

Other people feel differently, and that's okay too.

spark niche
#

reminds me of trophy hunting in playstation and xbox

umbral lintel
compact lily
#

there isn't even any leaderboard, right?

spark niche
#

there are people going crazy for it, when most don't even give a shit

alpine tangle
#

S2 has a fishing leaderboard!

deft kiln
compact lily
remote narwhal
umbral lintel
#

Man…I only count a game as p2w if you need to pay money to clear content or if there’s pvp content involved

alpine tangle
#

Thats fine too. I dont see why this is such a big argument, its not like p2w is an industry protected term or anything xD

opal marten
#

we need to accept it is p2w

solar remnant
deft kiln
sharp frigate
compact lily
#

well the game is in reality p2w. the true endgame are = cosmetic, homestead and wedding

deft kiln
wraith stag
solar remnant
#

endgame is whatever u deem, fashion, biggest numbers, fastest clears

royal fog
#

endgame is the one who honks more

sharp frigate
alpine tangle
#

Don't be silly endgame is the content at the end of the game! 😄

deft kiln
#

In this game knowledge about your class and how to gear properly carries a lot more than item level

opal marten
#

lol

sharp frigate
deft kiln
solar remnant
#

ig ocean weapon counts

deft kiln
void jacinth
sharp frigate
remote narwhal
umbral lintel
sharp frigate
#

if you think this is not a pw2 honestly you are delusional

deft kiln
#

The only noticeble advantage whales have is imagines

alpine tangle
opal marten
sharp frigate
deft kiln
#

And regorge level which gets equalized quickly

spark niche
solar remnant
#

ja i ment gears as in equipments not wills but ja that counts

deft kiln
alpine tangle
raven zealot
#

Did I stutter

compact lily
#

im surprised how some ppl can make so many enemies in few minute

deft kiln
#

Are servers down?

solar remnant
royal fog
compact lily
royal fog
#

jk tho, servers should be up

alpine tangle
#

I was on Serenei's side (in the point itself, very much not the argumentative delivery of it).

Now im just gonna hit block and move on xD

deft kiln
#

It must be the thing with us spaniards again

opal marten
#

who let the goose in the server room

spark niche
royal fog
#

what can i say

royal fog
deft kiln
#

What is weird is that even with vpn it gives me error 50001

royal fog
#

i work here you know

opal marten
umbral lintel
raven zealot
royal fog
opal marten
remote narwhal
#

Goose, stop eating the darn cables

rough gyro
#

Anyone know what void corruption power emblem stat does?

spark niche
rough gyro
#

So the power stat improves the void emblem trait abilities?

#

Or is it dmg vs. void mobs

spark niche
#

when you see those "pillars" with options like "cleanse void - spread void", you can choose to spread void into all close by monsters, this will increase the score gained for defeating them and it's commonly the right and best option, since you'll have the emblem boost, making you deal more damage against said monsters.

#

there are 2 things, the overall stats and the traits, the traits are skills that have a boost on their own and use that weird crystal metallic thing, and you can equip 3

#

if ur a dps u want to choose sword, tank shield, support is a heart I think?

royal fog
#

if you're a goose, you choose the watermelons

small charm
#

wondering if anyone can help me out I have a bug 100% of the time on dragon claw when i fly up on the last phase I glitch out and cant do anything happens on all difficulties, even unstables. I've tried reinstalling the game checking files turning sound on, playing on different resolutions and VPN on VPN off.

remote narwhal
#

Graphics Card up to date?

#

Or you on mobile?

rough gyro
spark niche
#

basically, yeah

rough gyro
#

k yeah just confusing since two other emblem upgrades mention dmg specifically to void monster and bosses

small charm
spark niche
#

but just that time

small charm
subtle hound
#

What's the max friends in bpsr

shell loom
#

100

eager sparrow
#

Why i have this error?

subtle hound
shut rain
digital cedar
#

how much flat attribute stat is equal to 30% in profile?

#

attribute as in haste/crit/luck

tender dune
digital cedar
#

o rip

short coral
digital cedar
#

bless your soul

shy bolt
#

does the event rewards end on the 8th if december or after?

short coral
shy bolt
#

i got 8 days left till i get the final thing

#

and it lines up wit when it ends so im curious

short coral
#

since the events are based off of daily resets, it ends on the monday reset one week from now

#

tho it's 1 am, my math may be off

shy bolt
#

so will i still be able to get it?

short coral
#

sunday reset comes in 7(?) hours, that gives you #8... I think you you should get it on the next sunday, assuming you log in every day

shy bolt
#

alr thank you

short coral
#

Yeah, as much as I am counting, I think it should line up just fine for you.
But maybe get someone less sleepy to double check the math FrierenHeart

ashen coral
#

Should I be buying the discounted exquisite mat chest with bound rose orbs or is that not a good deal?

tender dune
#

yes you should

#

since the mats are the major bottleneck

hexed tartan
#

does anyone know what imagine this is?

subtle hound
hexed tartan
#

Oh wtf why does it say the bear 💀 I was hella confused LMFAO ty

hexed tartan
#

I was looking for imagines that looked like 🐻

rough gyro
#

anyone know which questline this is?

subtle hound
#

I don't know which tho, I just did all

mental vector
#

Someone else has disconnect for no reason today?

#

I have this issue all day 🙁

short coral
short coral
versed storm
#

1 more day guys

#

The moment weve all been waiting for

wispy flax
#

what moment?

royal fog
#

1 more day for what?

#

until sunday?

versed storm
#

Weekly reset

royal fog
#

ok

versed storm
#

Sunday then bam weekly reset!

royal fog
#

tomorow is one piece day for me, thats about it

versed storm
royal fog
#

why would they stop making anime?

versed storm
#

All the good ones only go up to 12 episodes

subtle hound
#

People : 12 ep is long

One Piece : I have 1500 eps

royal fog
#

ehh, not may fault people has no attention span

short coral
versed storm
#

I dont know those animes

royal fog
#

i been watching one piece for 24 years, i aint stopping

subtle hound
neon needle
#

... two of the biggest anime currently, doesn't know of them 😮

versed storm
#

I mostly watch isekai and vr mmo animes but not sao

neon needle
#

I'm not active in anime anymore and I've heard of them

royal fog
subtle hound
royal fog
#

he cant count higher than 12

short coral
#

Some people are just... a lost cause, I suppose

subtle hound
neon needle
#

12 episodes too short anyways

carmine igloo
#

Opening is nostalgic, but the first 12 episodes are the only memorable ones.

short coral
#

I always forget that Abridged is not the real version of the anime BotanYawn

subtle hound
royal fog
#

soon, new detective conan movie will be subbed, cant wait

short coral
subtle hound
short coral
#

But to quote Melody:
"Ugh, slimes? I wanna nail a dragon!"

royal fog
short coral
#

(That's just a friendly reminder to do your raids)

royal fog
#

welp, time to make some pea soup

versed storm
trail bane
#

That time we held 100 town meetings you mean

royal fog
#

you wont like next season then

trail bane
#

already dropped it

royal fog
#

imagine an anime with great world building, drops it cuz ''they talk too much''
and not enough fights

trail bane
#

Yes not enough fights - too much straight forward op wins and too many lets sit at a table and talk about boring shi over and over xD

royal fog
#

welp, you do you

deep flare
#

I have a request for everyone.
I'd like to know the name of the song used in this Star Resonance advertisement.

royal fog
trail bane
#

It sounds like a load of other stuff just in a language i cant understand. Shazam not work?

trail bane
#

Like a NCS track

deep flare
sly cradle
#

i got a black screen when trying to share during the character customization scene. I'm on desktop and I'm not sure of what to do

#

nevermind it loaded

bitter trail
#

Sad game

quick solar
#

does anyone know if the damage stack has an UI for the buff?

limpid merlin
#

Is it recommended to equip non-runic level 80 gear with meh stats/attributes instead of level 60 with decent/ideal stats? 🤔

regal storm
#

nappo locations?

crystal osprey
#

wait wrong server

orchid oracle
#

is it possible for beat performers to roll MAtk % as a purple stat on gear?

gentle totem
#

Slowly farm the 80s pieces with the stats u need

#

Work on refinement, emblem, modules to push your Ability Score to meet new content requirements

modest cypress
#

is there stat cap in the game? regardless of diminishing return

sullen frost
#

no real limit

#

but the highest people have right now are 29K-29.3K

#

for actual stats, so far apparently not

#

even going from 100% attack speed to 140% attack speed seems to increase motion speed

modest cypress
#

👌

sullen frost
#

I'm sure effective crit caps at 100% tho lol

gentle totem
#

How does crit work here

tender jay
#

does the number of mistborne chests and throne pure gold chests you can open per week ever go up? or is it always 20 every week?

gentle totem
#

It doesn't say crit rate/crit dmg or am I dumb

#

Does adding more crit mean you crit more often or just crit higher when you do

#

Or can you increase both

sullen frost
#

Crit is crit rate, Crit DMG increases damage when crit

gentle totem
#

Ah

sullen frost
#

I think you can see your crit dmg stat in the Attribute [?] part of the profile

#

among other stats like armor, attack speed

narrow kraken
#

Like 7 or 8 possible purple lines

unreal palm
#

Nigthmare really good bug protocol

sharp pumice
#

r the material select cubes worth keeping for s2?

umbral lintel
wraith stag
primal acorn
neon needle
#

Very sweet of people to do that

wraith stag
#

ill tell u how it goes XD

primal acorn
#

hard carry

opal marten
#

Is the math of losing 66% of books for full class swap accurate

primal acorn
neon needle
#

yup

opal marten
#

AIDS

primal acorn
#

normal

neon needle
#

book exchange is not a good idea for swapping classes :x

wraith stag
#

It's better to just

neon needle
#

for extra books you get ..

wraith stag
#

sub main a class

#

and not entirely switch

opal marten
#

Honestly

#

Most of my current spec

#

Is almost max t6

#

So like

#

Funnel soon ig

neon needle
#

I finished out my verdant and went to work on mage.. then unlocked SK and like that better so

wraith stag
#

unlock iaido when

opal marten
#

Laidooo???

#

I’m gonna pickup disso

primal acorn
#

no its iaido

opal marten
#

lol

#

Just wanna play guitar

wraith stag
#

you are not cyan

#

join me become iaido

high thorn
#

what rune gear should oracles craft?

wraith stag
umbral lintel
wraith stag
#

y-you mean bad deed right

umbral lintel
wraith stag
#

o they teaching mechs placing markers and all so its not a carry or anything @/misguided

zinc elk
#

Is there a reason to do any of the raids? Can I just accept the rewards in the reclaim hub? Am I losing out on resources?

umbral lintel
unique helm
#

if we buy the monthly pass before it ends does it just add 30 days or should we just wait for it to expire?

unique helm
umbral lintel
#

do the raids lol

unique helm
#

it might even be less because ive been claiming on my alts and it doesnt seem worth it

unique helm
scenic plaza
deft flicker
#

does this have a clip or something showing it?

coral urchin
#

btw if anyone is wondering, buying the thanks giving sale does also get you the first time purchase rewards

slate steppe
tiny seal
#

Do guild points carry from guild to guild or do you start at zero every time you join a new guild?

umbral lintel
wraith stag
dense pulsar
#

hello which master you need to get gear lv 80 on blue protocol?

supple tartan
#

so how does someone fix their launcher from repeatedly causing this error popping up back to back?

#

the launcher keeps saying it finds a update tries to update then leads to this error

wicked holly
#

That looks like something you'll have to bring up to customer support

wraith stag
#

ice took like 20

#

LOL

maiden shadow
#

@wraith stag

#

it's dorothy right

#

or just do crab still

#

for s2

wraith stag
#

(best for early game tho)

primal acorn
wraith stag
#

yes, yes it did

primal acorn
#

Was that only easy mode?

wraith stag
#

o no hard modes

primal acorn
#

Oh that's not bad then

wraith stag
#

ya we beat hard ice and hard bone

#

then i gtg cause its 2 am weoigjwogei

primal acorn
#

Oof no light hard 😭

wraith stag
#

t-thats the hardest one

primal acorn
wraith stag
#

very

#

and i mean VERY

#

close to crab

#

because over 60% of our damage is now special dmg

#

since we use Vacuum Slash build

supple tartan
wraith stag
#

like T5 crab tested to only be slightly better than T5 boar

primal acorn
wraith stag
#

leec- i mean

#

collecting food

wicked holly
#

Food and potions

supple tartan
primal acorn
#

U can have 3 characters on the same account...

wraith stag
#

oh it doesnt work

#

same account only works if you have like, a friend that lets you use their house

wicked holly
#

Can't invite them to homestead

wraith stag
#

yeah the problem is friendship lvl 2

primal acorn
wraith stag
#

meaning youd of had to run with your alt char somehow

supple tartan
#

why would you want to be limited on someone elses time instead of your own

wraith stag
maiden shadow
#

muku chief and what

primal acorn
frozen mason
#

how is it possible to remove the paws on the meowlux outfit?

supple tartan
primal acorn
wraith stag
# maiden shadow so whats the build then?

Personally, I'm just going to skip and save for S3 and use this

But essentially...

  • Early game Dorothy is the best, she falls off as people get more gear in the late game, will still be good on "dorothy build"
  • Late game It's going to be T5 crab or Rorola which does want T3 to be slightly better than T5 crab, costs around the same amount but you need to Gacha for Rorola, could be building Crab from S1
  • For F2P Boar is only slightly weaker than Crab, it's carried by the 32% Special ATK bonus -> 60% of our damage is Special ATK now