#questions-and-help
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Bro doing allat just to have it replaced in a couple days

Do we get lv90 weapon next week though
i am NOT learning my lesson
or does it take a bit
Cause last time lv60 comes out first and then it took us a bit to get the weapon
It did?
Are you gambling away your lunch money again, Nuru?
yes
my alt is rich
he needed to be knocked down a peg
also my danny dps sometimes just straight up doesnt work, has that happened to you?
ooh @short coral my vanguard just did 200k 
sometimes it doesn't register when you start it mid-fight, ye
it also may be just getting old, so it may be a time to replace for anying
did you just restart it to get it starting or
Having a stroke seems to be a trait all DPS meters have
I usually close it and leave it closed
it's due to the packet system in the game
their packets have types, but these types are basically just a broad guide rather than a specification
and on top of that they are nested into oblivion
I had a healer break on me yesterday
that wasn't fun
ended up with worse time than in M5
That was me
My b
Sorry for leaving the soul in the middle

What the heck
My bots dps isn’t that fast when I run it
Maybe cause i run with my alt
How are people insta buying muku cheif from trading
other than exquisite boxes, what are the best things to buy from the mysterious shop? especially for long-term value
i guess not books because we will all cap out on skills at some point
Sped
I think boxes is really it
nothing else? havent seen all the possible mysterious shop so im not really sure
starforge?
Its probably that one guy buying all of it then selling for more
whats the best life skill for making money rn?
what's the best use of red orbs from monthly pass?
Someone know if the bonus by buying rose orbs gonna reset?
it has reset in other gacha games at some point
usually once or twice a year
Youre perfect
the price points are the same so high chance they'll folow practice in other gacha games
you can't really flip. There's a 30 day wait period
I buy a lot of things not that it's "efficient"
Any hairstyle/face edit tickets, focus pots, meow tickets, skill boxes, star forges, the 5x boxes
most of the mysterious shop are for the purpose of getting htem sooner than later. exquisite materials are just so scarce that the 'later' part is few months later lol
im thinking if it's better to just use it to pull from wish banner
or convert to unbound luno to buy your BiS wills
Gold imagine materials, candies for bound luno... that's about all I am spending on
candies for bound luno?
the revive things
we are talking about the mystery shop, aren't we?
yeah.
ohh wait yeah there are items there you can buy with bound luno
got it
i forgot about that lol
but im mostly asking about best things to buy with rose orbs from mysterious shop
ye... candies often show up with unbound, bound or orbs, so I only buy the ones for bound luno
this is good... id buy this
I wouldn't lose sleep over 30k
Whale
1/35 of a gold imagine
What kind of try hard buys imagines over costumes
does anyone know which plant gives a lot of tender plant stems
Higher tier
you can check that in the life skills menu
it's actually disgusting they put unbound luno/orb items in the mystery store
Thanks
and I do. My outfit is about 200 rose orbs worth and I do not intend to ever change it
this is my vanguard now and he only got 2 pc raid
4 pc should push him over the line for 20k, right?
over 19k, yes
I think he can go over 20, no? Cuz he legit only have 2
no
Not 3
4pc is not 1.5k score
third piece gives barely anything
each active set bonus is +500
without the set bonus, the runic pieces give roughly the same as normal gear
half way there!
when bone hard first came out, what were the average or minimum AS of dps classes then?
that's lame
Other than more afk farming
thinking if it's too much to ask guildies to carry me as 16k DPS alt
actually
it was like 18k
It's definitely not
If it is too much, you should join heal
Just make sure you learned the mechanics first
what about ethereal
ASHEN WITH THE ASSIST
you're lameashen
yeah ive finished all of them with my main
just playing on my alt
dang
tho tbf, there's no hard dps wall in hard bone/light bone is it
which raid was it that wipes when you fail dps check
other than mobs not really
There is a soft dps check
The portals
U need to kill em fast enough
But with proper cc rotation it shouldnt pose an issue
Ice has a dps wall, bone has portals, light has crystals
ah yes but i think there's a dragon that wipes when you fail dps check
ice
enraged mechanic?
Enraged is on all of em
Ice wipes you if you dont break the shield right after the bridge
Happened when u took too long to kill the boss
enraged is on like every boss in the game even chaos dungeons
nowadays, you will not even see all mechanics
but at that point, you're most likely to die from a random arrow shot
we killed hard bone with a single portal yesterday
seen a 470k dmg basic attack from tina
u can
cheese this though
can you intentionally get the boss stuck?
you can cheese half the game. That was not the point
whats wrong with my pfp
everything, hutao
🙁
Hello, quick question: do you know if it's possible to loot the Doomlord skin on the same character but in several different classes?
it's possible
yes
100%
nice thank you 🙂
But do we absolutely need to change classes?
you get a selector im pretty sure
hello, dumb question, but i forgot my login credentials, is there a way to get them ? i usually just use google acc for login
I didn't have to choose for the first loot.
then yeah you must change class
ur supposed to get a selector
but people claim it just is dropping no selector
so better safe than sorry
(by selector, its a box and when u open it, it morphs to ur current class)
Okay, because the first time I looted it, it said it was for the current class.
no selector
and i drop for heavy gardian
Yes
prob bug again
so we need all class for all farm :p
where the heck did his mouth go
where are the whalus maximus people that could tell me how to spend rose orbs good xD
Since I have no clue
better yet where are his shoes
fair point
where hes slime
Whales are not the people you wanna ask how to spend orbs.
Since they spend them on everything.
you wanna ask the F2P
not the whales

whales spend it on the most useless shit
First of all, you're gonna wanna get yourself a nice fit
?!?
these
5% attack
though some talents might increase the 5%
to a higher number
ooh, is that it?
i cant comment without knowing your build
I don’t regret getting the commander outfit for 2k orbs
like no skills uses it
since skyward have skills that consumes it
i assume vanguard doesn't?
ur vanguard?
passive damage addition
So basically
Whats the best way to max out merit in a guild?, i have 200/1240?
the set bonus we have adds +4% damage because of that!
skyward manages both courage and sharp
Vanguard only manages courage?
That means you did 200 this week and 1240 in total
1240 is the amount you've contributed to the guild
yep... you don't give a damn about sharp. It's just there and it's being a friend
The only way to lose it is over time
okie so it just sits there being pretty
nah
it depends on the content
oh really i thought the second number was a limit ngl
and if ur minmaxing or not
if ur doing raids or whatever
doesnt really matter
but for some M5+ dungeons
you might wanna manage your sharpness
That's nothing compared to me saving 1m for a hairstyle
so you have max sharpness stacks during the burst period
then ur abilities to regen sharpness on CD not during burst
ooh fair enough
either way is there a way to get more, like is it from just doing dailies or can i do like lets say season pass quest over and over
if your sharpness falls below max during combat, you are not playing the vanguard correctly 
theres a daily/weekly limit
during combat yeah
but im saying u wanna time combat breaks with mech
to letting ur sharp genning skills regen
you have 10 seconds per stack
I think you are overthinking it 
im not for higher content
I also did that
current content yes
im saving

when I saved 1 mil to get the meowluck ticket for hair but then
My alt got a mewolux ticket from 3 rolls
In hindsight i probably shouldnt have spend them for gems

Both me and my alt gets nothing from those rolls
Thats so based
Why think of the hindsight when u can think of the frontsight
for like m20
Why think of the past
it's def not over thinking
Think of the future
My alt and my main
My alt is a rabbit 
my alt is a jenshit character
no home stead expansion
Tru
i'm auto match at Unstable today and use fishing pot like image, when it's pop up go in Unstable and when done, i can't Fishing anymore, have any guys meet error like me?
hutao was vanguard dissonance double class
then i realized they both aren't f2p friendly
Yes
for a new account
Thats hutao
rookie mistake the game is too buggy to do something so dangerous like that
but have you tried turning it off and on again?
so i switched to a free to pay friendly class
once we can change genders
Like floorblades
i'm gonna switch hutao to sammy
bro like I’m so scared of this buggy game I never log off in guild or homestead
Im not scared, i alt f4ed in guild center earlier
Dangerous move nuru
happened to me and i had to reinstall
yep, Exit and relog again still can't fishing
you need to tp
then tp back
then restart
Guild center too buggy I don’t wanna risk it

nah
hutao is marksman
hutao is whatever is the highest damage for the least amount of effort
👍
I've been having fun with vanguard
I'd have more fun with vanguard if my dps meter worked
Is that score or dps
still can't, can't click left mouse to fishing :<
So i can now what my alt dps is
when
let me get thsi right
u tp'd
u tp'd back
u restarted ur cleint
then tried to fish?
Sheesh
wow, it's work, tks!!!
Imagines?

MS5 GK3
I c
Perhaps
Damn
not until you have like 30+ crit... before that MC provides barely any bonus
by the time someone gets MC3
level 80 gear
so they gonna get Crit 30 easily anyway
they could, ye
theres no point in dumping more than 40 haste into vanguard anyway
from there u just dump the rest into crit
but on Vanguard it's an overflow stat... so many vanguards dont even build it
Yeah, I might replace my flier once 80 comes out
depends how it will end up
maybe im wrong
but at level 60 gear
im already using triangle ruby
as all my embeds
when i switched from T6-7 haste to crit
my damage almost 1.75x
im running 30 crit 30 haste 30 mast
even tri split
I am like this right now
that's all goblin king 
I have like 100 on my necklace, that's all
it pains me a bit how fast the bonuses from imagines fall off...
T0 is +800, every other is +240... that just doesn't feel worth it 
Random question. Is Ice mage straight up better in dps then Stormblade?
There is a lot of variables going into that
elaborate
I assume you mean the "dps ceiling"
So assuming the most optimized build there is, all maxed out and so on...
I can say that I have been seeing Stormblades get closer and closer to the top of the dps meter lately; and with level 80 gear, some breakpoints will be hit.
Unsure about ice mages though.
Maybe @wraith stag could provide a better answer given all their knowledge of the past that is to be our future.
That's the last run i had. The icemages consitantly had more DPS almost at a 100k depending on the floor
Ice mage is bursty.
They do their thing and then fall off quickly.
if you have a 20 second fight every three minutes, their cooldowns are reset
for example, whenever a fight starts, I am at the bottom of the board for about 10-30 seconds. After that I can be top 3.
Because my build slowly ramps up and then holds the whole fight
Yeah but that was the inferno on floor 40
fair xD
then I ask again xD what should I use rose orbs for?
only in mystery shop for skill books / gold mats?
In AoE Frostbeam is uncontested.
In ST Icicle will compete with Iaido
Iaido should be beating Frostbeam in ST right now unless it's a very short fight, in which case they can outburst us.
I spend only on gold imagine materials personally. Books will be capped out eventually, so that's a dead investment.
Damn. So basically most of the Stimenfights lol
Yeah, beam is the aoe class
Thank you for your help 
By the way, there was a CN person with a Vanguard... and they said I should go for Muku Scout and Muku Chief 
Which provides like the lowest DPS from my tests...
Happy too! half awake atm though LMAO, wow no GK now on vanguard
books only via mystery shop tho, even then?
Though maybe with level 80 gear I could try MC instead of CF
We are getting plenty of books to cap out before S2 hits just from the free rewards 
What T is your mc? with t3 it should outperform muku scout t5 iirc
I see, okay gtk. so no need to camp the auction hall
T0.. remember you are asking me for rose orb advice 

You really only buy books with red orbs early game if you want to be competitive.
Otherwise it's more of a "get it passively" kinda thing, no rush unless you want to play 2 or 3 classes
yeah xD but then, Muku Scout does more DMG than your Chief. in terms of CF is nice to adjust stats if gear isn't up there yet.
Otherwise MS > CF, you should try it out x) if we're talking about vanguard lul
And as for auction, only somewhat worth at min price...
I try to get the cheaper ones.
I bought them because I switched class and lost like 100-120 books. wanted to close that gap xD
but I may just wait and wait till the prices drop as soon as the players reach t6 skills anyway lol
Prices should be minimum in another 30-50 days if we mirror CN.
I did try it out and I was losing about 3k DPS with MS compared to CF
tho that's like a week ago and before i switched my gems... maybe I should try again
I need to switch into creative and test it out 
how were your stats? or rather how much haste do you hit without cf?
And ur main Imagine is GK, right? we're only talking about the secondary imagine? xD
without CF
so roundabout with S2?
Try getting to 33% haste and then test again. The other vanguard peeps said with 30-ish CF not so worth anymore. And another day they talked about that with 33% haste their rotation feels better.
this mine
without CF and I do more DMG with Scout T5 than CF t0
Yeah, I did that test... some time ago...
gotta run it again I suppsoe
can always join the peeps there
https://discord.com/channels/594431022188331008/1413135621622599862
but I would say maybe some talent tree adjustments needed too, since your on 15% crit xD getting that down and haste higher would be helpful. WITH MC t3 you want those 15% crate.
That crit is only from gems
oh lol yeah then replace with haste
I swapped from haste gems to crit and got +15k dps 
your versatility only GK? or some gear too
think my necklace has a versa offstat
do you have both crit talent trees activated?
neither
neither, as a result of several hours of parsing
lmfao what did you activate instead
the two that boost cyclone, as cyclone is like 60% of vanguards dps
swapping to crit upped my DPS and then swapping to these nodes did so again
hit me up again in 3hrs bro, then I'm on PC and can check mine
can't compare properly with phone
how much DPS did you do on guild dummy in a 3min parse?
as I said, I went thru several hours of iteration; the two crit nodes at the bottom are great when you don't have crit. Once you have crit, they start falling off, especially since the things they boost are not the top DPS
75-80k
without imagines/ulti
just h and wait
what imagine equipped?
GK1 CF0
maybe check again tbh xD
You do more than me, but I don't have GK 1 lul.
My stats are different since no crit gems and I aimed for 33% haste
I'm at 20.3k AS
I went from 43 haste 0 crit to 38 haste 18 crit, so that felt like a good enough trade
as I said, I gained quite a lot of dps there
what's your AS?
21500ish
hmm I need to check my parse again xD now I'm intrigued lol
18crit is that much? doesn't feel like it tbh xD so I thought the 49 you get from bottom right would be good then xD
jeah but dummy is just basic. you deal more at the end of the day than dummy DMG
it doesn't boost the cyclone
yes
dummy doesn't hit back... that's the issue
so you never account for time spent being mashed against the floor if you only consider dummy parse
the DMG on the dummy is still way less than in actual fight since no debuffs/buffs from mates
here's a solo Muku King
I just use it since it's consistent
ye... but then it leads to builds like this
should i be stocking up on these? i dont understand the difference between this one and the other one
Ashen
you can use only 5 max of the other ones
They are also way cheaper, so use Buri first, every time
ahh okay
thank you
That's my name
wanna see something funny
I'm good

dang
unless you mean that you spelled "heal" wrong
kanamia m5
boss lost 60% hp in 1 second
is there a refinement cap right now
and will there be anything new in terms of refine cap next week
Time to hump the report button!
I believe people said it's 18, but unsure
nah it's a friend
it bugged out
i know hes not cheating
sure, sure
im serious lmao
but I wonder
what's the motivation of showing us the bugged parse xD
something people with zero understanding of code tend to say
lmao what
hmm I'm still confused how that is consistent parse, don't you benefit from all the buffs and debuffs from the others? which influence the parse?
dunno how buffs and debzffs function while not being in a party
Look at the screenshot. There is nobody else xD
it was literally a solo MK; from full health to zero
I don't think I see anything special? 
you solo mk? sheesh xD as I said I'm on phone, didn't zoom in xD
thought the skills were other players xD
now you wait for it to grow
then you leave it grown and replant everything around it
even if its not a black flower? or purple flower drop guarantees that the flower is black after replant?
Ye
should I not be able to?
no, but you will multiply the purple one. The purple one is one gene off a black one, so if you plant a flower that has that one missing gene, there is a chance for a black one appearing
look at the end of the spear phase
I see, and so im aiming to grow my chances of purple tier flowers too
idk never tested it myself but I get slapped at Goblin King xD

tell me u see it
Goblin King is not very friendly
I do... but you forced me to watch a 7 minute long video for 3 seconds of content
I thought this bug would be something completely different
so thats minus points for you
This isn't even the bug tbh xD
@short coral i also dont really need pollen or anything right? i got a roomie and i gathered pollen from their flowers (none are black) cuz i thought i could harvest it for them
okay I see, I just categorized the 4 last bosses as the same strength xD I'll test mk later
wym not a bug
I just got here so not really 
If you leave the middle one grown, it pollinates others without getting changed itself
Oh, I'm not saying it's not a bug, what I meant when I said "the bug"...
Just there's a bug significantly worse than this ( edit, 10000x worse ) and I thought it was made public but it seems it's fine
Their attacks really matter. For example as a WK you can't exactly sit in SGK's tornado
I'd like to file a report against Douglas
what does he mean "no fish today"?
gotcha thanks, and when I do get a black flower, I put that in the middle instead then harvest and replant the purple one yeah?
He means, better spend that focus boyeh
but since you do H-mode no imagine and no ult. Do you dodge or just full auto test? o.O
Yes, never harvest the black one, as it doesn't return seeds
I spend focus on fish
well, full H mode test is for the dummy
in which case no, I don't dodge there xD
this wasn't even a parse, just a random capture of me trying to spend my keys
okay you test till death or specific timer? I'm interested in my DMG there lol
could you do one later maybe? xD I would like to see the difference
Just did a quick "pig parse" (killing the Golden Juggernaut; no DPS meter)
it did die a bit faster with the MS... but I need to test it properly at home anyways
does maxing out burning powder crafting give 20 or 22 burning powder per craft?
Yes
i think ive asked here somewhere but couldnt find it and i dont remember the answer -
in s2 in cn, do people still afk farm?
it's the middle of a work day
there's not much to do
idk if i should be happy or sad, i kept getting this when i dont have the bound rose 
stop pulling on gacha 
if you're f2p how much bound rose do you actually get per week ?
400 + dailies
300 from friendship point, where's the other 100 from ?
daily averages 50 per day, so its around 750-ish
in s2 there is a mechanic where you have to re-enter the map to recover your "dream endurance" based on your dream level so you cannot afk farm forever, the exact details im unsure since i dont play on cn
is dream level the version of void for season 2 ?
i mean
acquaintance of mine is saying cn is extremely p2w so game is cooked does anyone know what they are talking about
isn't game already p2w
there's are new weapons in season 2
that makes it so f2p have no chance
to even do close to the same damage and numbers as whale
and the cheapest one in the worst case scenario is around 1k USD
wow ok
yeah
so like f2p and light spenders are doomed
not allowed into competent parties
Game isn't really p2w right now [it's definitely not perfect and you can convert rose orbs to currency]
guess I'll just enjoy the rest of the time I have with the game while it's still alive then
It'll just be pub groups that'll gatekeep [just like currently happens]
Find your own group of people to play with and you'll be okay.
we are talking about season 2
yea
but in season 2 right now
higher tier content has the 1k usd entry cost lol
so it's cooked
people are quitting in masses for reasons other than weapons, but still quitting
cuz they don't wanna play for 2-3 months
Unless the game itself requires you to have one of the weapons, it's not the game gatekeeping.
you can't clear
without the weapon
because of the numbers required
I entirely agree that weapons for $$ is crap tho
the p2w weapons have never been a problem in CN
stop spreading misinfo
ok
game is cooked because it's just bad lmao
i will make it clearer that's what i've been told
ocean weapon has never been anywhere near the top of CN complaints
Master dungeons and raids are already bad on this side .. I just play the base game and ignore as much as I can XD
just cuz it's not a top complaint doesn't mean it's not an issue lol
but market and class balance etc more cooked 💀
for f2p and light spenders
I think what they mean was you pointing to all the people leaving and blaming only the p2w weapon :x
When there are multiple reasons
I cant use the bound rose orbs for outfits?
too early for anything lols
Most of them require unbound.
thank you for correcting me
much appreciated
🙁
there are some outfits you can use bound orb on , just not all
you can dye them too to change their palette.
there is f2p outfit and p2w outfit
p2w outfit 💀
u do need to pay to look good
fashion is normally the true end game in mmos
and the fact there isn't a fashion endgame shows EoS time
except the outfit options in this game is a bit thin
meanwhile, marvel rivals keep tempting me every month with skins for a game/character i dont even play lmao
reallllll
Which taunt is the stronger option for tanks? From everything ive seen radiance is a lot stronger, especially with the shield spec, but with the long cooldown i always have people dying when they attack mobs while im pulling them together before i taunt the whole group, so should i just switch to shield toss?
It's not p2w for cosmetics.. ... wtheck
Cosmetics do nothing to help you 'win' the game.
yes they do
No, they really don't.
can't play the game if I don't have cosmetics, can't win the game if I don't play the game
Mounts can be for sure
see you get me, cuteness reigns supreme
imagines
bro reply to the right person
i was skull reacting to the statement p2w outfit 😭
💀
Why is this? Anime style has so much friggin potential. Also the males just seem too feminine - with the exception of a few releases :{
You would have thought costume preset would have been like a solid thing aswell
the game could be shittier than this and they would still make a killing if they just put all their efforts on the skins/costumes lol
anyone else with this problem? it doesnt start the download
#chat-lounge message check this message from fragments
ah well
Prin was faster
Hmmm so thats like breaking the tos but its allowed because of fragments? xD
thank you very much!!
it worked
this is editing the launcher config, not the game files
I mean thats skirting the term game files but ok xD
Consider that the alternative is not playing the game
I don't think they will mind

Im not that bothered it just stood out to me as alittle funny ;]
Wonder if someone could be convinced to make a Lf( guild ) channel where people post and then guilds look for them? xD
Current guild thing ingame and in discord are just so overwhelmingly full that it makes browsing and choosing impossible.
Ive been seekin a guild in world chat for over a week and not 1 person messaged >_>
Refer to above message
Theres so many its overwhelming - also the guild infos are kinda fake. You dont know if you joining a dead guild.
I have been asking for a highly active guild with people available to do the dragon shackles gold trophy ( only needs 5 ppl i think )
#1417407609480413224 not good enough?
Its the same - overwhelming amounts of the same info again and again which makes it harder to make a decision.
100 lv 6 guilds with positive guild description and fake members numbers because only 4 are active ect
dont think there's any penalty on leaving a guild but I could be wrong
just a few minutes before you can join a new one
24 hrs :[
I THINK if the guild leader kicks you its the lesser because i also heard it was 1 minute. I have no way to check or prove.
just join heal or something 
I just have 2 requirements -
- Be an active guild that does things that will keep me drawn into the game and motivated.
- Have 5 ppl who can do an easy ice dragon with me for the trophy xD
Do they meet it? xD
a lf guild channel would be good but would need a heavy slowmode
Will happily spend my time just helping others ect
pretty sure they do
but yeah
ur better off just trying to ask people here
if u could join their guild
tbh why are the guild posts in #1417407609480413224 even locked
like im almost confident that active people in discord are surely active in game
right?

its so only the one that makes the post can bump it up
which reminds me
i need to bump it up
seems really dumb, prospective candidates cant ask questions in there xd
yeah honestly, i really hoped they didnt do that, but i do understand why they do that
if a guild gets bumped because of interest, why would that be bad
i feel like even if u ask questions u will probably get the most sugar coated answers anyway
i would dm them directly instead
cuz people can just use their members to make their guild be in front page all the time
since everytime a new chat is sent on the thread, it bumped the thread up
idk do we 👀
this was during the guild picture
Just need something to tide me over between the content drops - I play with goals in mind, i want to be gaining from my time spent. That kind of thing. Just being productive in some way would be enough.
https://discord.com/channels/594431022188331008/1435622585311297547
Check this thread out and if it fills your fancy consider joining the discord 
uhh we do but alts aren't prioritized in raids
Hello, question might sound dumb but, for a frostbeam spec, are atk spd module usefull or useless ?
we try to make sure nobody that's on their main account missed any raids
I'm a pug demon so that's no problem
i think its pretty useful, but u should ask on #frost-mage-chat to be sure 
okie then @wicked holly you do this too 
u should pay me to join

i'll pay you with love chono
the god ceilingblade
no pay me so i can swipe
anyone willing to help me get black flowers?
@grim mesa where's my referral bonus?
❤️

Here you go love bonus
❣️
🥲
is tokiwa grass drop rate same for all the flowers? or higher rate for the higher mastery ones
Raids require at least 10 people [12 is better]
Also.. it's not 24 hours? I left my old guild and joined a group of friends in their guild in like 5 minutes last week?
yeah it was 4 minutes
tho they do say they've been jumping guilds
so it might've been the more u do it the longer the cooldown goes
maybe 😮
is 10 really a requirement? Cuz i think i remember people clearing it with less than 10 people
tbf I only left because old guild had like 6 active people left lol.. and I found a bunch of old friends.
It wouldn't let us start it without 10 people
We tried. lols
oo
I rallied my old guild to do a raid to get the trophy and we needed 10+ ...
It's possible it's changed in the 2 weeks or so
10 - 12 is the sweetspot for raids cause the bosses start scaling more from 12 to 20
yet somehow 20 man always felt easier for me
Each person added is a 13m health increase to the boss on bone(assuming chono and rein's experiment is correct) so u can assume lower on ice and higher on light
And as long as the one u invited (which is most likely a dps) can deal more than 13m damage in that time span, it'll be easier
Anything that requires me to gather a large group of people to do it is a loud 'no thank you' from me. lols.
What are the pros and cons of creating an alt character on the same account vs making a completely new account? I've heard some people say a new account is better, but I’m not sure why
Because new account can share homestead
Has anyone heard or seen confirmation that s2 will have p2w weapons and gear?
making alt on same account also lock the redeem code to 1 character per account
also some achievement might get bugged, like my alt that got the lv 8 homestead achievement while my main stuck at lv 7/8 achievement
are these throne gold exchangeable for next week?
or should i just use them for alt specs?
they can be traded up, yes
so its better if i just save them up for use for my main spec?
or are we gonna get in abundance of it next week, via a variety of sources?
What day will the M6 be released?
im assuming the rate of acquisition stays the same? but we can use them of a jump start on the next tier of gold, so yeah you should hold on to them for your main
monday
just craft the alt weapon but dont slot in any gem (?)
and should u need the throne later, u can dismantle the alt weapon - assuming u hv extra copy for the alt to reforge to 100 again later
or sunday night or whatever the weekly reset is for you
dismantling lv 70 wep will return the throne and reforge stone, but not the base weapon
welp Im not in game to check the dismantling preview
Has anyone heard anything about the p2w items for season 2? Is it as bad as it sounds?
nope, just the gold n reforge stones iirc
I have heard about it, cant say anything about it because i didnt experience it myself

Just gonna wait till it hits us
I mean knowing about it wouldnt rlly change anything
idc about p2w stuff in a pve game, tbth
If there’s paid gear and weapons that sounds terrible with the way the community already gate keeps based on ability score
Thats why u build your own community 
yeah. just have your own guild :p
I have for sure, but I also like joining random groups too?
so you are saying come monday, if i get a lvl 80 weapon and enough of these throne gold from raids/ honour shop etc., i could trade them up for the higher tier throne gold, and then jumpstart my weapon to reach a lvl 90 weapon crafted on the first day?
@neon needle Theres a workaround though - your party of 5 can be your guild and the rest of the raid can be randoms.
Ah that makes sense. [though seems a glitch? but whatever makes it easier to complete lol]
Waittt that works?
Interesting
@ember osprey higher rarity higher chance
I think it’s coming next week too
the p2w weapon
You should, p2w weapons and gear is a massive turn off for a lot of players, especially people in the steam community. The activity will drastically fall off if it’s as bad as it sounds based on people venomously despising p2w mechanics in ways it’s 100% unecessary
In PVE with no ranking system, p2w really doesn't matter 
The game and its content isnt compelling enough to make me p2w on items/gameplay .......cant say the same for cosmetics whoops
correct
Exactly. There’s no reason to add it for gear weapons? Current system is just fine
The lack of costumes is surprising tbh
P2w effectively increases the point of boredom and lack of content/motivation.
You'd think they'd be all up in this bish considering it makes them cash
@wicked holly Ye this should be like blackdesert - i want it all xD
P2W can be balanced so that it doesn't affect things too badly.. not saying they're doing it in this game.
at least we got some new costumes today, theyre kinda mid imo but its somethin
so mad we got bunny ears but not cat ears
Imagines were already the p2w and the gear progress - it was enough really. What other people do shouldnt really be bothering anyone else though.
Cat ears is ultra stonks
id pay more than i wanna admit for the cat ears n cat tail they got? are getting? in cn
there is much less incentive to do it on a pve game imo
Did they do thes p2w gear in China?,
Do world chests respawn?
I don’t disagree. Cosmetics, buying power for trading house, even the books whatever. But having access to p2w items that fundamentally alter the actual combat mechanics of a game beyond small booster is gross. Also the p2w items will need to be maintained with monthly payments. Pay to unlock, then keep paying to keep it?
Cat ears yes please T_T
This game needs alot more reasons/motive to actually be strong/stronger before p2w should take off or start to effect everyone.
Yeah that kind of p2w is stupid
Yep
This game already has too few players spread across to many ques.
gonna be dead in a month
do world chests respawn?
Whales be whalin and they're counting on it :] Doesnt always need to be a mega reason.
@surreal tendon Alot of people have shown the game has one of the best catch up mechanics/systems to keep everyone in similar content.
It’s a huge bummer too, I really liked bp but know quite a few players who are just going to quit because of this greed. So dumb and sad to see
That same thing also demotivates alot of players aswell though.
I dont think it respawn, but few weeks ago, when some of the area is still timegated, some spot that got no chest prior to the area open time just hv the chest added to them
I honestly don't care about p2w weapons so as long as I can still do basic stuff I'll hang around .. but it'll definitely affect public groups x-x
as long as the game has group wipe mechanics based on attention checks that if 1 player fails, every dies, there will be a huge portion of players for ever stuck behind the 'i dont read or pay any attention, and only auto battle' wall
lmaoooo one of the people in my group was on auto last night in M5 Goblin and kept starting the boss fight before everyone was ready. x-x
So to be clear, world chests, they do not respawn?
get the tank killed = bad time for everyone.
No, they do not respawn.
this is every single dungeon.
Love it when they do that
"but but why are u dying, you're the tank?"
Buddy let me set up my defensive options first
plus you got like most people just spamming m1s, then when they eventuallyd o go up to m3 or higher they have no idea what they are doing, because they spend 1000 runs in m1.
I'm the healer so .. could we not waste my Airona first-thing? XD
dont get me wrong i love this game, its just, there are some things regarding the dungeons that i think are going to kill it for everyone
No no, m3-m4 is still fine if you had spammed m1, but the jump from m4-m5 is ridiculous due to the event
You should be using M1 to learn the mechanics ... :x at least the basics
those that in non-blue colored class should hv more patient if I were to say (?)
let the blue pull, or start the fight, so the non-blue can stay in safe area/behind boss body, the timer is paused until the fight begin anyway
Heck im one of those, i did m1s a lot and underestimated the adds on dragon claw valley on m5, and pulled too much
I really hate them for ramping up the M5 difficulty just to make it hard to complete the event.
do we really need 5+ dungeons with 20 different ques each?
Ended up dying 30 times
they could have the event damage/health mod be half of what it is and itd still be too hard for like 90% of the playerbase if they wanna keep it exclusive
but hey, what ya gonna do, tencent be doin tencent stuff.
Diablo immortal was fun too for awhile
so ill enjoy this for as long as its possible
Yeah.. we made a few runs at it last night with some newbies so could learn mechs and M5 was brutal lol
DI was p2w from the word go.. :x
M5 is a crazy leap up
Thought it was weird when ages ago someone said M6 is easier than M5. Because the event ends :p
DI was pay2win but if you had the time to grind all day every day you could keep up with the whales
more or less
They said, in here I think .. that M5 is more like M9 in terms of difficulty rn
i mean if they spend like 100kusd on upgrading gems you wont keep up
but like 10k usd you could grind to keep up
I played DI for like 30 minutes. Didn't like it so never went back to it..
@neon needle Which is also another demotivator if thats all the content that is left to come :/
Yep, m5 is more like m9 rn
strange, this game feels alot like di to me
Whats DI
i was in a top clan for like a year, we were the immortals many times, in an alliance with 20 other major clans
I play on PC and it's nothing like Diablo Immortal 😮
diablo immortal
we had like 8000 players in our clan alliance
shared the immortal spot on a rotation with other top clans
Yeh this game aint nothing like that
the trick to beating the whales is cooperation and grinding
well the auto features remind me of DI
lol
people hate on auto, but i loev when my pc plays for me
i dont log out of BPSR unless the server makes me
havnt since launch day lol
auto for afk but manual play is better - this is how it should always be.
auto can be okay for some stuff, if used as an augment
not to replace manual play
but to suppliment it
open world content = go full auto
dungeon content = manage ur auto
yup
auto during free dps window is ok, auto during mechanic sensitive part = u risking team wipe
i dont even mind if people use auto for bosses, what bothers me if using auto causes a wipe
Open world content auto is the best thing ever.
if it doesnt, hey more power to ya.
Being able to farm mobs for materials
i wish we have auto for some trade stuff
@neon needle Yeah but another demotivator there - the materials have very limited use and you cant farm alone unless you change class.
Not talking about voids XD
why cant i afk mine an ore node all night long
I meant more monster hunt stuff and etc
@neon needle Me neither - the only "Materials" you can farm is milk and honey. Everythin else has little to value or purpose.
u cant even use autoclick for mining since the top option is the focused one

Mmm disagree
@neon needle Ah ok yeh - im suprised they didnt patch that out to be honest
As someone who has auto-farmed since I found out about it, the currency alone makes it worth it
Yep
this month
Who's maxim
Maximillian dood
The guy doing the gems for ya xD
Ah
Lmaoo
Btw is there a reason why my auto attack can manage the cooldown on galeform but not on muku chief
Like it'll know to not cast another galeform while a galeform is active
But for muku chief
GO
because imagine is not logic standardized for the auto (?)
The auto airona/tata is so painful when i see it
the colossus imagine will go on full charge should u put it to auto
and then u get staggered/CCed

Dailies
Thats what I thought, when I checked my inventory today I only had unbound
Is level 100 weapon doable for hardcore players that are f2p or low spenders? Or is it something time gated?
It's too expensive
But I don’t have enough information
p2w one I'm guessing
130m Luno apparently



