#questions-and-help

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quaint ermine
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I also gambled

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On my lv70 weapon

wicked holly
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Bro doing allat just to have it replaced in a couple days

arctic talon
quaint ermine
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Do we get lv90 weapon next week though

grim mesa
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i am NOT learning my lesson

quaint ermine
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or does it take a bit

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Cause last time lv60 comes out first and then it took us a bit to get the weapon

wicked holly
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It did?

quaint ermine
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Like we didn’t had enough mats

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until the second week

wicked holly
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Oh

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Well ofc

short coral
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Are you gambling away your lunch money again, Nuru?

grim mesa
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my alt is rich

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he needed to be knocked down a peg

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also my danny dps sometimes just straight up doesnt work, has that happened to you?

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ooh @short coral my vanguard just did 200k Proud

short coral
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it also may be just getting old, so it may be a time to replace for anying

grim mesa
wicked holly
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Having a stroke seems to be a trait all DPS meters have

short coral
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I usually close it and leave it closed

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it's due to the packet system in the game

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their packets have types, but these types are basically just a broad guide rather than a specification

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and on top of that they are nested into oblivion

grim mesa
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oo

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btw the bots hates kanamia trial

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they always break on kanamia

short coral
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I had a healer break on me yesterday

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that wasn't fun

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ended up with worse time than in M5

quaint ermine
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My b

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Sorry for leaving the soul in the middle

short coral
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huh... what soul

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you underestimate the bot dps

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there is no soul mechanic SilvervaleSmuggers

quaint ermine
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What the heck

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My bots dps isn’t that fast when I run it

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Maybe cause i run with my alt

short coral
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you gotta watch out for the big floppa

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that's a massive chunk of HP

broken crane
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How are people insta buying muku cheif from trading

drowsy oyster
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other than exquisite boxes, what are the best things to buy from the mysterious shop? especially for long-term value

i guess not books because we will all cap out on skills at some point

broken crane
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Its gone in 0.01 seconds

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I think they def have a code set up or autoclicker

drowsy oyster
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starforge?

broken crane
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Its probably that one guy buying all of it then selling for more

distant moth
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whats the best life skill for making money rn?

drowsy oyster
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what's the best use of red orbs from monthly pass?

rugged scroll
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Someone know if the bonus by buying rose orbs gonna reset?

drowsy oyster
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usually once or twice a year

grim mesa
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ah extra

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perfect

tiny panther
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Youre perfect

drowsy oyster
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the price points are the same so high chance they'll folow practice in other gacha games

short coral
tiny panther
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Any hairstyle/face edit tickets, focus pots, meow tickets, skill boxes, star forges, the 5x boxes

drowsy oyster
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im thinking if it's better to just use it to pull from wish banner

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or convert to unbound luno to buy your BiS wills

short coral
short coral
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the revive things

drowsy oyster
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yeah but id ont get the 'for bound luno' part

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you sell candies for bound luno?

short coral
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we are talking about the mystery shop, aren't we?

drowsy oyster
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yeah.

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ohh wait yeah there are items there you can buy with bound luno

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got it

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i forgot about that lol

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but im mostly asking about best things to buy with rose orbs from mysterious shop

short coral
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ye... candies often show up with unbound, bound or orbs, so I only buy the ones for bound luno

drowsy oyster
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speaking of those candies, do they appear in different discounts/prices/

short coral
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this is good... id buy this

tiny panther
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There's 3x

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For 30k I think

short coral
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40

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I believe

tiny panther
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U sure?

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That wouldn't be a discount

short coral
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there is the "30k discounted version" which is for unbound

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aka a scam

wicked holly
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I wouldn't lose sleep over 30k

tiny panther
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Whale

wicked holly
tiny panther
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30k is like

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1/150 of a costume

short coral
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1/35 of a gold imagine

tiny panther
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What kind of try hard buys imagines over costumes

wicked holly
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But have you considered that it's less than a day's worth of mystery metal?

short coral
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for an item I barely use

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not worth it

tender pilot
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does anyone know which plant gives a lot of tender plant stems

tiny panther
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Higher tier

short coral
tender dune
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it's actually disgusting they put unbound luno/orb items in the mystery store

shut harness
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i just matched u

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5 gems

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and i ended on level 5

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cooked

tender pilot
grim mesa
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ok so

short coral
grim mesa
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this is my vanguard now and he only got 2 pc raid

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4 pc should push him over the line for 20k, right?

short coral
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over 19k, yes

grim mesa
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I think he can go over 20, no? Cuz he legit only have 2

shut harness
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no

grim mesa
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Not 3

tender dune
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4pc is not 1.5k score

short coral
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third piece gives barely anything

shut harness
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4pc is 1.5k score total

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from both 4pc and 2pc

short coral
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each active set bonus is +500

grim mesa
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Hmm kk

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So i do need to void farm after all

short coral
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without the set bonus, the runic pieces give roughly the same as normal gear

grim mesa
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😔

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This guy's still at 900 emblem

short coral
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half way there!

grim mesa
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Idk where to get the

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Thingies

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To upgradr the middle

short coral
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everywhere

drowsy oyster
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when bone hard first came out, what were the average or minimum AS of dps classes then?

grim mesa
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Other than more afk farming

drowsy oyster
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thinking if it's too much to ask guildies to carry me as 16k DPS alt

grim mesa
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Its not

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If its too much then they have a

grim mesa
short coral
grim mesa
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Just make sure you learned the mechanics first

tiny panther
grim mesa
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ASHEN WITH THE ASSIST

tiny panther
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you're lameashen

drowsy oyster
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yeah ive finished all of them with my main

short coral
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Nuru is being nice

drowsy oyster
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just playing on my alt

tiny panther
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dang

drowsy oyster
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tho tbf, there's no hard dps wall in hard bone/light bone is it

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which raid was it that wipes when you fail dps check

tiny panther
grim mesa
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There is a soft dps check

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The portals

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U need to kill em fast enough

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But with proper cc rotation it shouldnt pose an issue

short coral
drowsy oyster
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ah yes but i think there's a dragon that wipes when you fail dps check

tiny panther
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ice

drowsy oyster
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enraged mechanic?

grim mesa
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Enraged is on all of em

short coral
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Ice wipes you if you dont break the shield right after the bridge

grim mesa
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Happened when u took too long to kill the boss

tiny panther
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enraged is on like every boss in the game even chaos dungeons

short coral
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nowadays, you will not even see all mechanics

drowsy oyster
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but at that point, you're most likely to die from a random arrow shot

short coral
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we killed hard bone with a single portal yesterday

tiny panther
empty bison
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cheese this though

tiny panther
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can you intentionally get the boss stuck?

short coral
grim mesa
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that pfp still scares me

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even tho its better than the 2 headed monster from before

empty bison
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whats wrong with my pfp

grim mesa
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everything, hutao

empty bison
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🙁

terse sinew
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Hello, quick question: do you know if it's possible to loot the Doomlord skin on the same character but in several different classes?

terse sinew
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But do we absolutely need to change classes?

tiny panther
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you get a selector im pretty sure

marsh anchor
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hello, dumb question, but i forgot my login credentials, is there a way to get them ? i usually just use google acc for login

terse sinew
tiny panther
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then yeah you must change class

empty bison
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yeah

terse sinew
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have a nice day guys 😉

empty bison
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but people claim it just is dropping no selector

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so better safe than sorry

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(by selector, its a box and when u open it, it morphs to ur current class)

terse sinew
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Okay, because the first time I looted it, it said it was for the current class.

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no selector

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and i drop for heavy gardian

empty bison
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kk

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just change

terse sinew
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Yes

empty bison
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prob bug again

terse sinew
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so we need all class for all farm :p

grim mesa
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where the heck did his mouth go

gleaming tusk
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where are the whalus maximus people that could tell me how to spend rose orbs good xD
Since I have no clue

tiny panther
grim mesa
empty bison
grim mesa
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and Nuru is Nuru

short coral
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Since they spend them on everything.

empty bison
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not the whales

short coral
empty bison
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whales spend it on the most useless shit

short coral
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the cheap people

wicked holly
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First of all, you're gonna wanna get yourself a nice fit

arctic talon
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Just spend on diff game

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Not worth spending when u play 20 minutes daily xd

grim mesa
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what is sharp for

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on vanguard

empty bison
grim mesa
empty bison
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though some talents might increase the 5%

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to a higher number

grim mesa
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ooh, is that it?

empty bison
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i cant comment without knowing your build

quaint ermine
grim mesa
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like no skills uses it

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since skyward have skills that consumes it

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i assume vanguard doesn't?

empty bison
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ur vanguard?

short coral
grim mesa
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So basically

zealous yoke
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Whats the best way to max out merit in a guild?, i have 200/1240?

short coral
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the set bonus we have adds +4% damage because of that!

grim mesa
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skyward manages both courage and sharp
Vanguard only manages courage?

short coral
grim mesa
short coral
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The only way to lose it is over time

grim mesa
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okie so it just sits there being pretty

empty bison
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it depends on the content

zealous yoke
empty bison
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and if ur minmaxing or not

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if ur doing raids or whatever

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doesnt really matter

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but for some M5+ dungeons

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you might wanna manage your sharpness

wicked holly
empty bison
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so you have max sharpness stacks during the burst period

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then ur abilities to regen sharpness on CD not during burst

grim mesa
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ooh fair enough

zealous yoke
short coral
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if your sharpness falls below max during combat, you are not playing the vanguard correctly DeadInside

empty bison
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but im saying u wanna time combat breaks with mech

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to letting ur sharp genning skills regen

short coral
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you have 10 seconds per stack

empty bison
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so once mech is over

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u can instantly max sharp again

short coral
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I think you are overthinking it BotanYawn

empty bison
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im not for higher content

quaint ermine
empty bison
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current content yes

empty bison
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im at 700k

grim mesa
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im saving

wicked holly
grim mesa
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5m

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for sakura

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im at 400k 😔

quaint ermine
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when I saved 1 mil to get the meowluck ticket for hair but then

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My alt got a mewolux ticket from 3 rolls

grim mesa
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In hindsight i probably shouldnt have spend them for gems

quaint ermine
grim mesa
quaint ermine
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it’s ok nuru

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We don’t think about hindsight

grim mesa
grim mesa
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Why think of the hindsight when u can think of the frontsight

grim mesa
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Why think of the past

shut harness
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it's def not over thinking

grim mesa
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Think of the future

quaint ermine
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My alt and my main

grim mesa
quaint ermine
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Why did I get

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A dumbs down

shut harness
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my alt is a jenshit character

shut harness
grim mesa
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Nah that is NOT hutao

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Hutao is not a marksman

quaint ermine
gaunt acorn
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i'm auto match at Unstable today and use fishing pot like image, when it's pop up go in Unstable and when done, i can't Fishing anymore, have any guys meet error like me?

shut harness
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then i realized they both aren't f2p friendly

grim mesa
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Yes

shut harness
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for a new account

grim mesa
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Thats hutao

quaint ermine
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but have you tried turning it off and on again?

shut harness
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so i switched to a free to pay friendly class

shut harness
grim mesa
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Like floorblades

shut harness
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i'm gonna switch hutao to sammy

quaint ermine
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bro like I’m so scared of this buggy game I never log off in guild or homestead

shut harness
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and sammy to hutao

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like name and gender and appearance swap them

grim mesa
quaint ermine
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Dangerous move nuru

shut harness
grim mesa
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Guild center is fine, i left there all the time

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Cuz i always do my guild cargo last

gaunt acorn
empty bison
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then tp back

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then restart

quaint ermine
empty bison
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hutao is marksman

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hutao is whatever is the highest damage for the least amount of effort

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👍

grim mesa
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I've been having fun with vanguard

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I'd have more fun with vanguard if my dps meter worked

empty bison
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i play vanguard

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on my alt im a 20k f2p vanguard

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with all skills level 0

wicked holly
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Is that score or dps

empty bison
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AS ofc

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my dps is closer to 50-80k depending on the content

grim mesa
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20k dps

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Hutao u should raid with my alt

gaunt acorn
grim mesa
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So i can now what my alt dps is

empty bison
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when

empty bison
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u tp'd

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u tp'd back

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u restarted ur cleint

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then tried to fish?

gaunt acorn
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let me try again

wicked holly
gaunt acorn
wicked holly
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Imagines?

gaunt acorn
empty bison
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MS5 GK3

wicked holly
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I c

empty bison
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though

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u can replace MS5 with MC3

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if ur multiclassing a class that needs MC5

grim mesa
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Your vanguard got tk3?

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Gk3*?

empty bison
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Perhaps

grim mesa
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Damn

short coral
empty bison
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level 80 gear

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so they gonna get Crit 30 easily anyway

short coral
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they could, ye

empty bison
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theres no point in dumping more than 40 haste into vanguard anyway

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from there u just dump the rest into crit

short coral
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but on Vanguard it's an overflow stat... so many vanguards dont even build it

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Yeah, I might replace my flier once 80 comes out

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depends how it will end up

empty bison
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but at level 60 gear

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im already using triangle ruby

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as all my embeds

short coral
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I have all crit gems too

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but my haste is like 36ish with flier

empty bison
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when i switched from T6-7 haste to crit

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my damage almost 1.75x

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im running 30 crit 30 haste 30 mast

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even tri split

short coral
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I am like this right now

empty bison
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i disagree

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with that much verst

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for vanguard

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but that looks good

short coral
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that's all goblin king YokaShrug

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I have like 100 on my necklace, that's all

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it pains me a bit how fast the bonuses from imagines fall off...
T0 is +800, every other is +240... that just doesn't feel worth it DeadInside

agile wind
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Random question. Is Ice mage straight up better in dps then Stormblade?

short coral
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There is a lot of variables going into that

agile wind
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elaborate

short coral
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I assume you mean the "dps ceiling"
So assuming the most optimized build there is, all maxed out and so on...

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I can say that I have been seeing Stormblades get closer and closer to the top of the dps meter lately; and with level 80 gear, some breakpoints will be hit.
Unsure about ice mages though.

Maybe @wraith stag could provide a better answer given all their knowledge of the past that is to be our future.

agile wind
short coral
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for example, whenever a fight starts, I am at the bottom of the board for about 10-30 seconds. After that I can be top 3.
Because my build slowly ramps up and then holds the whole fight

agile wind
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Yeah but that was the inferno on floor 40

gleaming tusk
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then I ask again xD what should I use rose orbs for?
only in mystery shop for skill books / gold mats?

wraith stag
short coral
agile wind
wraith stag
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Yeah, beam is the aoe class

short coral
wraith stag
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Happy too! half awake atm though LMAO, wow no GK now on vanguard

gleaming tusk
short coral
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Though maybe with level 80 gear I could try MC instead of CF

short coral
gleaming tusk
gleaming tusk
short coral
wraith stag
gleaming tusk
wraith stag
gleaming tusk
wraith stag
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Prices should be minimum in another 30-50 days if we mirror CN.

short coral
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tho that's like a week ago and before i switched my gems... maybe I should try again

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I need to switch into creative and test it out Friereeeee

gleaming tusk
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And ur main Imagine is GK, right? we're only talking about the secondary imagine? xD

short coral
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without CF

gleaming tusk
short coral
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and here with CF

gleaming tusk
# short coral without CF

Try getting to 33% haste and then test again. The other vanguard peeps said with 30-ish CF not so worth anymore. And another day they talked about that with 33% haste their rotation feels better.

gleaming tusk
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without CF and I do more DMG with Scout T5 than CF t0

short coral
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Yeah, I did that test... some time ago...
gotta run it again I suppsoe

gleaming tusk
short coral
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That crit is only from gems

gleaming tusk
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oh lol yeah then replace with haste

short coral
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I swapped from haste gems to crit and got +15k dps veiShrug

gleaming tusk
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your versatility only GK? or some gear too

short coral
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think my necklace has a versa offstat

gleaming tusk
short coral
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neither

gleaming tusk
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those notes bottom right and left

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NEITHER? Lol

short coral
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neither, as a result of several hours of parsing

gleaming tusk
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lmfao what did you activate instead

short coral
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the two that boost cyclone, as cyclone is like 60% of vanguards dps

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swapping to crit upped my DPS and then swapping to these nodes did so again

gleaming tusk
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hit me up again in 3hrs bro, then I'm on PC and can check mine

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can't compare properly with phone

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how much DPS did you do on guild dummy in a 3min parse?

short coral
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as I said, I went thru several hours of iteration; the two crit nodes at the bottom are great when you don't have crit. Once you have crit, they start falling off, especially since the things they boost are not the top DPS

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75-80k

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without imagines/ulti

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just h and wait

gleaming tusk
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what imagine equipped?

short coral
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GK1 CF0

gleaming tusk
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maybe check again tbh xD
You do more than me, but I don't have GK 1 lul.

My stats are different since no crit gems and I aimed for 33% haste

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I'm at 20.3k AS

short coral
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I went from 43 haste 0 crit to 38 haste 18 crit, so that felt like a good enough trade

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as I said, I gained quite a lot of dps there

gleaming tusk
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what's your AS?

short coral
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21500ish

gleaming tusk
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hmm I need to check my parse again xD now I'm intrigued lol

short coral
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I honestly prefer dps checking on stuff like the muku chief

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or the ice ogre

gleaming tusk
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18crit is that much? doesn't feel like it tbh xD so I thought the 49 you get from bottom right would be good then xD

short coral
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the problem is that the 49 is only for certain skills

gleaming tusk
short coral
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it doesn't boost the cyclone

gleaming tusk
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yes

short coral
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so you never account for time spent being mashed against the floor if you only consider dummy parse

gleaming tusk
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the DMG on the dummy is still way less than in actual fight since no debuffs/buffs from mates

short coral
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here's a solo Muku King

gleaming tusk
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I just use it since it's consistent

short coral
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ye... but then it leads to builds like this

trail steeple
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should i be stocking up on these? i dont understand the difference between this one and the other one

tiny panther
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Ashen

short coral
short coral
tiny panther
short coral
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I'm good

gleaming tusk
tiny panther
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dang

short coral
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unless you mean that you spelled "heal" wrong

tiny panther
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kanamia m5

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boss lost 60% hp in 1 second

drowsy oyster
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is there a refinement cap right now

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and will there be anything new in terms of refine cap next week

short coral
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Time to hump the report button!

short coral
tiny panther
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it bugged out

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i know hes not cheating

short coral
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sure, sure

tiny panther
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im serious lmao

gleaming tusk
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but I wonder

short coral
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It's called backstab for a reason

gleaming tusk
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what's the motivation of showing us the bugged parse xD

tiny panther
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its funny

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same thing happened to me in light dragon as dissonance

tiny panther
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did 100m damage, 230k dps

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spaghetti code

short coral
gleaming tusk
short coral
tiny panther
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@short coral

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looks like it is a known bug

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in kanamia

short coral
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it was literally a solo MK; from full health to zero

silk estuary
short coral
gleaming tusk
short coral
# silk estuary

now you wait for it to grow
then you leave it grown and replant everything around it

silk estuary
short coral
tiny panther
silk estuary
gleaming tusk
short coral
tiny panther
short coral
short coral
wraith stag
short coral
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so thats minus points for you

wraith stag
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This isn't even the bug tbh xD

silk estuary
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@short coral i also dont really need pollen or anything right? i got a roomie and i gathered pollen from their flowers (none are black) cuz i thought i could harvest it for them

gleaming tusk
grim mesa
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do u know what happened kith

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?

tiny panther
wraith stag
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I just got here so not really Thinking

short coral
wraith stag
# tiny panther wym not a bug

Oh, I'm not saying it's not a bug, what I meant when I said "the bug"...
Just there's a bug significantly worse than this ( edit, 10000x worse ) and I thought it was made public but it seems it's fine

short coral
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I'd like to file a report against Douglas

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what does he mean "no fish today"?

silk estuary
wicked holly
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He means, better spend that focus boyeh

gleaming tusk
short coral
short coral
short coral
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in which case no, I don't dodge there xD

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this wasn't even a parse, just a random capture of me trying to spend my keys

gleaming tusk
gleaming tusk
short coral
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on the dummy?

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It's quite hard to find a solo muku xD

short coral
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Just did a quick "pig parse" (killing the Golden Juggernaut; no DPS meter)
it did die a bit faster with the MS... but I need to test it properly at home anyways

trail basin
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does maxing out burning powder crafting give 20 or 22 burning powder per craft?

drowsy oyster
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i think ive asked here somewhere but couldnt find it and i dont remember the answer -

in s2 in cn, do people still afk farm?

empty bison
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lmfao why is every world chat leisure

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eos?

short coral
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it's the middle of a work day

shut harness
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even still

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world 1 should at least be like

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populated

drowsy oyster
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there's not much to do

austere dagger
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idk if i should be happy or sad, i kept getting this when i dont have the bound rose OlveraPain

tender dune
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stop pulling on gacha nodders

austere dagger
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if you're f2p how much bound rose do you actually get per week ?

austere dagger
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300 from friendship point, where's the other 100 from ?

meager finch
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guild weeklies

austere dagger
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daily averages 50 per day, so its around 750-ish

meager finch
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ye..

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not much

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u can also buy them but... ye

fresh bolt
# drowsy oyster there's not much to do

in s2 there is a mechanic where you have to re-enter the map to recover your "dream endurance" based on your dream level so you cannot afk farm forever, the exact details im unsure since i dont play on cn

austere dagger
#

is dream level the version of void for season 2 ?

fresh bolt
#

yeah

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it also affects your gear so its a bit more central

shut harness
#

i mean

sullen bobcat
#

acquaintance of mine is saying cn is extremely p2w so game is cooked does anyone know what they are talking about
isn't game already p2w

shut harness
#

season 2 just is lay to win

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pay*

shut harness
#

that makes it so f2p have no chance

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to even do close to the same damage and numbers as whale

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and the cheapest one in the worst case scenario is around 1k USD

sullen bobcat
#

wow ok

shut harness
#

so like f2p and light spenders are doomed

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not allowed into competent parties

neon needle
sullen bobcat
#

guess I'll just enjoy the rest of the time I have with the game while it's still alive then

neon needle
#

It'll just be pub groups that'll gatekeep [just like currently happens]

#

Find your own group of people to play with and you'll be okay.

shut harness
neon needle
#

I know

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that's why I said 'right now'

shut harness
#

yea

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but in season 2 right now

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higher tier content has the 1k usd entry cost lol

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so it's cooked

#

people are quitting in masses for reasons other than weapons, but still quitting

neon needle
#

Sorry my comment was replying to 'isn't game already p2w

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Wrong pink name

shut harness
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cuz they don't wanna play for 2-3 months

neon needle
#

Unless the game itself requires you to have one of the weapons, it's not the game gatekeeping.

shut harness
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without the weapon

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because of the numbers required

neon needle
#

I entirely agree that weapons for $$ is crap tho

shut harness
#

not possible even with best skilled players apparently

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from what i've been told

raven zealot
#

stop spreading misinfo

shut harness
raven zealot
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game is cooked because it's just bad lmao

shut harness
#

i will make it clearer that's what i've been told

raven zealot
#

ocean weapon has never been anywhere near the top of CN complaints

shut harness
#

yeah

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but it still is an issue

neon needle
#

Master dungeons and raids are already bad on this side .. I just play the base game and ignore as much as I can XD

shut harness
#

just cuz it's not a top complaint doesn't mean it's not an issue lol

#

but market and class balance etc more cooked 💀

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for f2p and light spenders

neon needle
#

I think what they mean was you pointing to all the people leaving and blaming only the p2w weapon :x

#

When there are multiple reasons

shut harness
#

yes

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it's 4am and i worded that like crap

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my apologies

hasty cedar
#

I cant use the bound rose orbs for outfits?

neon needle
#

too early for anything lols

neon needle
shut harness
#

much appreciated

hasty cedar
#

🙁

fresh bolt
#

there are some outfits you can use bound orb on , just not all

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you can dye them too to change their palette.

meager finch
#

there is f2p outfit and p2w outfit

hasty cedar
#

so gutted I was saving them up lol

#

but i getchu ty

shut harness
#

p2w outfit 💀

meager finch
#

u do need to pay to look good

shut harness
#

fashion is normally the true end game in mmos

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and the fact there isn't a fashion endgame shows EoS time

drowsy oyster
#

except the outfit options in this game is a bit thin

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meanwhile, marvel rivals keep tempting me every month with skins for a game/character i dont even play lmao

hasty cedar
#

reallllll

summer cobalt
#

Which taunt is the stronger option for tanks? From everything ive seen radiance is a lot stronger, especially with the shield spec, but with the long cooldown i always have people dying when they attack mobs while im pulling them together before i taunt the whole group, so should i just switch to shield toss?

shut harness
#

class dependent

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i'm pretty sure shield toss is for recovery tho

neon needle
#

Cosmetics do nothing to help you 'win' the game.

sullen bobcat
#

yes they do

neon needle
#

No, they really don't.

sullen bobcat
#

can't play the game if I don't have cosmetics, can't win the game if I don't play the game

neon needle
#

Unless they add stats

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They're just pretty.

quartz sigil
#

P2w mounts

neon needle
#

Mounts can be for sure

sullen bobcat
austere dagger
#

imagines

neon needle
#

Imagines too yup

#

And yes as someone who loves cute outfits.. .. XD

shut harness
#

i was skull reacting to the statement p2w outfit 😭

neon needle
#

Ah I thought you were saying you agreed they were p2w

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skull goes either way

shut harness
#

💀

trail bane
#

You would have thought costume preset would have been like a solid thing aswell

drowsy oyster
fresh badger
#

anyone else with this problem? it doesnt start the download

trail bane
#

Lots of ppl but im steam so no issues

fresh bolt
short coral
#

ah well

#

Prin was faster

trail bane
#

Hmmm so thats like breaking the tos but its allowed because of fragments? xD

fresh badger
#

it worked

short coral
trail bane
#

I mean thats skirting the term game files but ok xD

wicked holly
#

Consider that the alternative is not playing the game

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I don't think they will mind

trail bane
#

Im not that bothered it just stood out to me as alittle funny ;]

#

Wonder if someone could be convinced to make a Lf( guild ) channel where people post and then guilds look for them? xD
Current guild thing ingame and in discord are just so overwhelmingly full that it makes browsing and choosing impossible.
Ive been seekin a guild in world chat for over a week and not 1 person messaged >_>

tender dune
#

cant you just apply ingame

#

thats what I did on my alt

trail bane
#

Refer to above message

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Theres so many its overwhelming - also the guild infos are kinda fake. You dont know if you joining a dead guild.

#

I have been asking for a highly active guild with people available to do the dragon shackles gold trophy ( only needs 5 ppl i think )

tender dune
trail bane
#

Its the same - overwhelming amounts of the same info again and again which makes it harder to make a decision.

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100 lv 6 guilds with positive guild description and fake members numbers because only 4 are active ect

tender dune
#

dont think there's any penalty on leaving a guild but I could be wrong

#

just a few minutes before you can join a new one

trail bane
#

24 hrs :[

#

I THINK if the guild leader kicks you its the lesser because i also heard it was 1 minute. I have no way to check or prove.

short coral
#

just join heal or something Sleepy

trail bane
#

I just have 2 requirements -

  1. Be an active guild that does things that will keep me drawn into the game and motivated.
  2. Have 5 ppl who can do an easy ice dragon with me for the trophy xD
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Do they meet it? xD

tender dune
#

a lf guild channel would be good but would need a heavy slowmode

trail bane
#

Will happily spend my time just helping others ect

maiden shadow
#

but yeah

#

ur better off just trying to ask people here

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if u could join their guild

tender dune
maiden shadow
#

like im almost confident that active people in discord are surely active in game

#

right?

grim mesa
#

which reminds me

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i need to bump it up

tender dune
#

seems really dumb, prospective candidates cant ask questions in there xd

grim mesa
#

yeah honestly, i really hoped they didnt do that, but i do understand why they do that

tender dune
#

if a guild gets bumped because of interest, why would that be bad

maiden shadow
#

i would dm them directly instead

grim mesa
maiden shadow
#

see when and how they respond

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gives me a grasp of how active they are

grim mesa
#

since everytime a new chat is sent on the thread, it bumped the thread up

grim mesa
#

this was during the guild picture

maiden shadow
#

stop the cap

grim mesa
#

99/104

trail bane
#

Just need something to tide me over between the content drops - I play with goals in mind, i want to be gaining from my time spent. That kind of thing. Just being productive in some way would be enough.

grim mesa
wicked holly
grim mesa
grave bronze
#

Hello, question might sound dumb but, for a frostbeam spec, are atk spd module usefull or useless ?

grim mesa
#

we try to make sure nobody that's on their main account missed any raids

wicked holly
#

I'm a pug demon so that's no problem

grim mesa
grim mesa
grim mesa
#

the god ceilingblade

maiden shadow
grim mesa
#

i'd rather swipe myself

#

for the sakura weapons

haughty swan
#

anyone willing to help me get black flowers?

short coral
#

@grim mesa where's my referral bonus?

grim mesa
#

Here you go love bonus

#

❣️

short coral
#

🥲

grim mesa
maiden shadow
#

i should get a bonus for joining

grim mesa
ember osprey
#

is tokiwa grass drop rate same for all the flowers? or higher rate for the higher mastery ones

neon needle
neon needle
# trail bane 24 hrs :[

Also.. it's not 24 hours? I left my old guild and joined a group of friends in their guild in like 5 minutes last week?

grim mesa
#

yeah same

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5 mins for me

neon needle
#

yeah it was 4 minutes

grim mesa
#

tho they do say they've been jumping guilds

#

so it might've been the more u do it the longer the cooldown goes

neon needle
#

maybe 😮

grim mesa
neon needle
#

tbf I only left because old guild had like 6 active people left lol.. and I found a bunch of old friends.

neon needle
#

We tried. lols

grim mesa
#

oo

neon needle
#

I rallied my old guild to do a raid to get the trophy and we needed 10+ ...

#

It's possible it's changed in the 2 weeks or so

summer cobalt
#

10 - 12 is the sweetspot for raids cause the bosses start scaling more from 12 to 20

tiny panther
#

yet somehow 20 man always felt easier for me

grim mesa
# tiny panther yet somehow 20 man always felt easier for me

Each person added is a 13m health increase to the boss on bone(assuming chono and rein's experiment is correct) so u can assume lower on ice and higher on light

And as long as the one u invited (which is most likely a dps) can deal more than 13m damage in that time span, it'll be easier

neon needle
#

Anything that requires me to gather a large group of people to do it is a loud 'no thank you' from me. lols.

twilit bolt
#

What are the pros and cons of creating an alt character on the same account vs making a completely new account? I've heard some people say a new account is better, but I’m not sure why

quaint ermine
#

Because new account can share homestead

exotic gust
#

Has anyone heard or seen confirmation that s2 will have p2w weapons and gear?

wispy flax
weary hinge
#

are these throne gold exchangeable for next week?
or should i just use them for alt specs?

frigid horizon
#

they can be traded up, yes

weary hinge
wicked peak
#

What day will the M6 ​​be released?

frigid horizon
frigid horizon
wispy flax
#

just craft the alt weapon but dont slot in any gem (?)

and should u need the throne later, u can dismantle the alt weapon - assuming u hv extra copy for the alt to reforge to 100 again later

frigid horizon
#

or sunday night or whatever the weekly reset is for you

wispy flax
#

dismantling lv 70 wep will return the throne and reforge stone, but not the base weapon

grim mesa
#

What kyuu said

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Did it return luno tho

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Not that it matters much

#

But just wonderinf

wispy flax
#

welp Im not in game to check the dismantling preview

exotic gust
frigid horizon
#

nope, just the gold n reforge stones iirc

grim mesa
#

Just gonna wait till it hits us

#

I mean knowing about it wouldnt rlly change anything

frigid horizon
#

idc about p2w stuff in a pve game, tbth

exotic gust
#

If there’s paid gear and weapons that sounds terrible with the way the community already gate keeps based on ability score

grim mesa
#

Thats why u build your own community ThumbsUp

frigid horizon
#

yeah. just have your own guild :p

exotic gust
#

I have for sure, but I also like joining random groups too?

weary hinge
trail bane
#

@neon needle Theres a workaround though - your party of 5 can be your guild and the rest of the raid can be randoms.

neon needle
trail bane
#

@ember osprey higher rarity higher chance

quaint ermine
#

the p2w weapon

exotic gust
# frigid horizon idc about p2w stuff in a pve game, tbth

You should, p2w weapons and gear is a massive turn off for a lot of players, especially people in the steam community. The activity will drastically fall off if it’s as bad as it sounds based on people venomously despising p2w mechanics in ways it’s 100% unecessary

neon needle
#

In PVE with no ranking system, p2w really doesn't matter 02_shrug

trail bane
#

The game and its content isnt compelling enough to make me p2w on items/gameplay .......cant say the same for cosmetics whoops

exotic gust
wicked holly
trail bane
#

P2w effectively increases the point of boredom and lack of content/motivation.

wicked holly
#

You'd think they'd be all up in this bish considering it makes them cash

trail bane
#

@wicked holly Ye this should be like blackdesert - i want it all xD

neon needle
#

P2W can be balanced so that it doesn't affect things too badly.. not saying they're doing it in this game.

frigid horizon
#

so mad we got bunny ears but not cat ears

trail bane
#

Imagines were already the p2w and the gear progress - it was enough really. What other people do shouldnt really be bothering anyone else though.

wicked holly
#

Cat ears is ultra stonks

frigid horizon
#

id pay more than i wanna admit for the cat ears n cat tail they got? are getting? in cn

weary hinge
#

there is much less incentive to do it on a pve game imo
Did they do thes p2w gear in China?,

wicked holly
#

Apparently yes

#

Very expensive weapon

surreal tendon
#

Do world chests respawn?

exotic gust
neon needle
#

Cat ears yes please T_T

trail bane
#

This game needs alot more reasons/motive to actually be strong/stronger before p2w should take off or start to effect everyone.

neon needle
exotic gust
#

Yep

surreal tendon
#

This game already has too few players spread across to many ques.

#

gonna be dead in a month

#

do world chests respawn?

trail bane
#

Whales be whalin and they're counting on it :] Doesnt always need to be a mega reason.

#

@surreal tendon Alot of people have shown the game has one of the best catch up mechanics/systems to keep everyone in similar content.

exotic gust
trail bane
#

That same thing also demotivates alot of players aswell though.

wispy flax
#

I dont think it respawn, but few weeks ago, when some of the area is still timegated, some spot that got no chest prior to the area open time just hv the chest added to them

neon needle
#

I honestly don't care about p2w weapons so as long as I can still do basic stuff I'll hang around .. but it'll definitely affect public groups x-x

surreal tendon
#

as long as the game has group wipe mechanics based on attention checks that if 1 player fails, every dies, there will be a huge portion of players for ever stuck behind the 'i dont read or pay any attention, and only auto battle' wall

neon needle
#

lmaoooo one of the people in my group was on auto last night in M5 Goblin and kept starting the boss fight before everyone was ready. x-x

surreal tendon
#

So to be clear, world chests, they do not respawn?

neon needle
#

get the tank killed = bad time for everyone.

neon needle
surreal tendon
grim mesa
#

"but but why are u dying, you're the tank?"
Buddy let me set up my defensive options first

surreal tendon
#

plus you got like most people just spamming m1s, then when they eventuallyd o go up to m3 or higher they have no idea what they are doing, because they spend 1000 runs in m1.

neon needle
#

I'm the healer so .. could we not waste my Airona first-thing? XD

surreal tendon
#

dont get me wrong i love this game, its just, there are some things regarding the dungeons that i think are going to kill it for everyone

grim mesa
surreal tendon
#

having masters go up to m20

#

for example

neon needle
#

You should be using M1 to learn the mechanics ... :x at least the basics

wispy flax
#

those that in non-blue colored class should hv more patient if I were to say (?)

let the blue pull, or start the fight, so the non-blue can stay in safe area/behind boss body, the timer is paused until the fight begin anyway

grim mesa
#

Heck im one of those, i did m1s a lot and underestimated the adds on dragon claw valley on m5, and pulled too much

neon needle
#

I really hate them for ramping up the M5 difficulty just to make it hard to complete the event.

surreal tendon
#

do we really need 5+ dungeons with 20 different ques each?

grim mesa
#

Ended up dying 30 times

surreal tendon
#

if the game had like, 500m players maybe

#

or more

frigid horizon
surreal tendon
#

but hey, what ya gonna do, tencent be doin tencent stuff.

#

Diablo immortal was fun too for awhile

#

so ill enjoy this for as long as its possible

neon needle
#

DI was p2w from the word go.. :x

fresh bolt
#

M5 is a crazy leap up

trail bane
#

Thought it was weird when ages ago someone said M6 is easier than M5. Because the event ends :p

surreal tendon
#

DI was pay2win but if you had the time to grind all day every day you could keep up with the whales

#

more or less

neon needle
#

They said, in here I think .. that M5 is more like M9 in terms of difficulty rn

surreal tendon
#

i mean if they spend like 100kusd on upgrading gems you wont keep up

#

but like 10k usd you could grind to keep up

neon needle
#

I played DI for like 30 minutes. Didn't like it so never went back to it..

trail bane
#

@neon needle Which is also another demotivator if thats all the content that is left to come :/

grim mesa
#

Yep, m5 is more like m9 rn

surreal tendon
#

strange, this game feels alot like di to me

grim mesa
#

Whats DI

surreal tendon
#

i was in a top clan for like a year, we were the immortals many times, in an alliance with 20 other major clans

neon needle
#

I play on PC and it's nothing like Diablo Immortal 😮

surreal tendon
#

diablo immortal

#

we had like 8000 players in our clan alliance

#

shared the immortal spot on a rotation with other top clans

trail bane
#

Yeh this game aint nothing like that

surreal tendon
#

the trick to beating the whales is cooperation and grinding

#

well the auto features remind me of DI

#

lol

trail bane
#

auto is literally everywhere

#

and im glad

surreal tendon
#

only with mobile games

#

but yeah

#

same

trail bane
#

im too old to sit at pc all day anymore

#

xD

surreal tendon
#

people hate on auto, but i loev when my pc plays for me

#

i dont log out of BPSR unless the server makes me

#

havnt since launch day lol

trail bane
#

auto for afk but manual play is better - this is how it should always be.

surreal tendon
#

auto can be okay for some stuff, if used as an augment

#

not to replace manual play

#

but to suppliment it

wispy flax
#

open world content = go full auto
dungeon content = manage ur auto

surreal tendon
#

yup

wispy flax
#

auto during free dps window is ok, auto during mechanic sensitive part = u risking team wipe

surreal tendon
#

i dont even mind if people use auto for bosses, what bothers me if using auto causes a wipe

neon needle
#

Open world content auto is the best thing ever.

surreal tendon
#

if it doesnt, hey more power to ya.

neon needle
#

Being able to farm mobs for materials

surreal tendon
#

i wish we have auto for some trade stuff

trail bane
#

@neon needle Yeah but another demotivator there - the materials have very limited use and you cant farm alone unless you change class.

surreal tendon
#

that would be reaaal nice

#

like if we can afk grind void mats all night long

surreal tendon
#

why cant i afk mine an ore node all night long

neon needle
#

I meant more monster hunt stuff and etc

trail bane
#

@neon needle Me neither - the only "Materials" you can farm is milk and honey. Everythin else has little to value or purpose.

wispy flax
neon needle
#

Mmm disagree

trail bane
#

@neon needle Ah ok yeh - im suprised they didnt patch that out to be honest

neon needle
#

As someone who has auto-farmed since I found out about it, the currency alone makes it worth it

short coral
grim mesa
#

So no for the luno

#

100~200 i wouldnt consider it a return ThumbsUp

short coral
#

what kind of luno would you want back?

#

the luno for your addiction?

grim mesa
#

Yep

short coral
#

thats never gonna happen

#

Maxim wouldnt be able to afford his sixth yacht

grim mesa
short coral
#

this month

grim mesa
#

Maximillian dood

short coral
#

The guy doing the gems for ya xD

grim mesa
#

Ah

#

Lmaoo

#

Btw is there a reason why my auto attack can manage the cooldown on galeform but not on muku chief

#

Like it'll know to not cast another galeform while a galeform is active

#

But for muku chief

#

GO

wispy flax
#

because imagine is not logic standardized for the auto (?)

fresh bolt
#

The auto airona/tata is so painful when i see it

wispy flax
#

the colossus imagine will go on full charge should u put it to auto

#

and then u get staggered/CCed

grim mesa
#

Love it when that happened

#

WHY ARE U SLAMMING

ITS ALREADY BROKEN

wicked holly
#

Pop the imagine the never slam

viscid palm
#

How do we get bound star chests?

#

After all quests are done

wicked holly
#

Dailies

viscid palm
wicked holly
#

Oh, bound, well I never looked at the distinction

outer fjord
#

Is level 100 weapon doable for hardcore players that are f2p or low spenders? Or is it something time gated?

neon needle
#

level 100 weapon? o.o

#

we're on level 70 weapons rn aren't we?

outer fjord
#

Yea

#

It releases soon

#

And from what I heard it’s really hard to get

wicked holly
#

It's too expensive

outer fjord
#

But I don’t have enough information

neon needle
#

p2w one I'm guessing

wicked holly
#

130m Luno apparently