Pokemon Thread

[sterile agate]

NO BETTER YET

WE QUASH

[vestal vessel]

quash is correct

whirlwind instead of being like -8 turns into -7 prio with pra kster

so its still not ideal

[sterile agate]

fu dropped fortress for mimiku

[vestal vessel]

if only the game didnt show mold breaker when you send the pokemon to battle

mimikyu makes things easier i think

scarier endgame but easy start

[pseudo sphinx]

Fortress

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel got time later today to go over strat w/ me

[vestal vessel]

need list of fuus pokemon

now

[sterile agate]

Mimikyu ,alolan golem, rabasca, abomasnow,pawmot, basculegion, geafaiai, whismicot

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2044136383-xw4mhofixudcudwlcoux6s9lpcgdubvpw

Previous battle

[vestal vessel]

and what are your current pokemon?

tyranitar excadrill murkrow farigiraf and

krookodile

[sterile agate]

and kleavor and gliscor and dracovish

[pseudo sphinx]

Damn ur draft is so much stronger

[pseudo sphinx]

I died a little watching this

[sterile agate]

LOL

[vestal vessel]

i might get nerd emojid by this

but i calculated the damage fuus abomasnow tookfrom kingambit to try to understand the ev spread

[upper temple]

🤓

[sterile agate]

Oh Brian doesn’t know what he’s doing

[vestal vessel]

and abomasnow also got outsped by dragapult under tailwind so its not max speed

bro

nvm

[sterile agate]

LOL

[vestal vessel]

its probably 252hp252atack

brave or modest

adamant*

start with murkrow and fire tera tyranitar

ez game

tailwind and terablast into abomasnow to prevent aurora veil

[upper temple]

Ment too smart for this draft wut a beast

[vestal vessel]

by having tailwind

you could even go for sand force excadrill

or mold breaker to destroy mimikyu

since fuus team is actually kinda slow

besides whimsicott and basculegion

this is what i think he is gonna use

i dont think bringing golem and pawnot into the ground type trainer would be very smart so he might not bring those

[sterile agate]

He’s gonna have full weather control if I’m not careful

[upper temple]

My crows a beast dw

[vestal vessel]

your pokemon shine in sandstorm

but that doesnt mean you need sandstorm to win

sunny day on murkrow or quash to not let basculegion outspeed you

[sterile agate]

He’s gonna protect first turn and fuck me up LOL

[vestal vessel]

nah trust

[upper temple]

Ments a genius

[vestal vessel]

you could lowkey show up with these 4 and still win

please dont do that btw

[sterile agate]

OL

FLEX

[vestal vessel]

i need to know

what item is he going to pick

for the rat

[sterile agate]

No idea

It’s not open sheet

[vestal vessel]

stalk chatlogs most

need to now everything

actually it doesnt matter

grafaiaiaiaia is always faster than murkrow

[sterile agate]

The only thing he knows is o EQ spam

[vestal vessel]

unless he is a 20000 iq player and gives iron ball to the rat

by being slower than his prankster mon you can set up sunny day after he clicks rain dance

in the rare scenario where he leads grafaiaia with basculegion into murkrow and ttar

[vestal vessel]

solved the matchup

[pseudo sphinx]

Tr rolls you too

[vestal vessel]

cant set up trick room when imprison trick rooms and taunt murkrow are there

[pseudo sphinx]

[sterile agate]

LOL

[vestal vessel]

and mosts dracovish sweeps under trick room

if it happens to go up

most you have some free slots

for moves

1 move for ttar, farigiraf and krookodile

let me know if you would rather use choice scarf krookodile or choice band

dracovish can also use rocky helmet

[pseudo sphinx]

Scarfed ttar and exca for double rock slide

[vestal vessel]

it gets scary if fuu has still has tera and you have 1 or 2 pokemon

murkrow and ttar lead

for no counterplay

we dont need scarf pokemon in this matchup but i just dont know what other item we should give it

maybe a berry to resist wave crash idk

[pseudo sphinx]

Does low kick kill ttar from grafaiai

[vestal vessel]

nopers

ugh ttar and murkrow are so close to killing mimikyu before it gets to set up trick room

[pseudo sphinx]

Dark pulse

Wait I meant shadow ball

[vestal vessel]

heavy slam ttar

murkrow hits first to break disguise

then ttar kills with that

it also destroys whimsicott

[upper temple]

[pseudo sphinx]

Poison Terra Terra blast

[vestal vessel]

poison fire is better imo

[pseudo sphinx]

What

[vestal vessel]

its not like you are living a wave crash from basculegion anyways

tera fire*

hmmm

actually

[pseudo sphinx]

Terra steel

Even is basc gets on the field, vish just exists on it

[vestal vessel]

oh right i went with tera blast fire

to kill abomasnow no matter the ev spread

so it doesnt get aurora veil on turn one

[pseudo sphinx]

Does the other person even start Obama

[vestal vessel]

im trying to read their mind

like the saw most stomp someone with just 3 pokemon

under sandstorm

they might want to stop sandstorm and they can do it

they can literally set up any weather they want

sunny day with whiimsicott, snow abomasnow and rain with grafaiiaa

[pseudo sphinx]

Yeah, I’d be smarter for them to no lead Obama so they can over take the weather

[vestal vessel]

basculegion and grafaiai leads into ttar murkrow we win

mimikyu and the little bug

we win

abomasnow whimsicott we also win

ttar lives wave crash from basc if sunny day is up, which it should be up no matter what

and then kills with knock off

mimikyu and the little bug cant do much, probably protect from the bug and mimikyu tries to set up trick room but we click foul play on murk to break disguise and heavy slam to kill

i did a bit of overthinking

[pseudo sphinx]

Lmao

[vestal vessel]

i might be wrong

but i might be right

[pseudo sphinx]

This also assumes ttar and crow hit and stay in

[vestal vessel]

all i do is suggest stuff so if it fails its not even my fault

[pseudo sphinx]

Most don’t suck and you win

[vestal vessel]

[upper temple]

[sterile agate]

LOL

Interesting

[vestal vessel]

i can send you the team in a few minutes

[vestal vessel]

Tyranitar @ Expert Belt
Ability: Sand Stream
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Spe
Adamant Nature
Knock Off
Heavy Slam
Tera Blast
Stomping Tantrum

Murkrow @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 140 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
Tailwind
Foul Play
Taunt
Sunny Day

Excadrill @ Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Rush
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Iron Head
High Horsepower
Protect
Rock Slide

Farigiraf @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Armor Tail
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
Shadow Ball
Ally Switch
Imprison
Trick Room

Dracovish @ Choice Band
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 66 HP / 252 Atk / 190 Spe
Jolly Nature
Fishious Rend
Crunch
Psychic Fangs
Dragon Rush

Krookodile @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 112 HP / 252 Atk / 144 Spe
Adamant Nature
High Horsepower
Knock Off
Earthquake
Gunk Shot

[pseudo sphinx]

Poke paste is your friend

[vestal vessel]

[pseudo sphinx]

https://pokepast.es/63fc6d3f218d2947

Dragon rush goes hard

Wait

Why horsepower and earthquake

[vestal vessel]

oh mb

i had dragon rush

because i was thinking of giving gravity

to farigiraf

i forgot what was the reasoning

for that

[pseudo sphinx]

They don’t have grass terrain do they?

At least not manual

[vestal vessel]

nope

grassy terrain on whimsicoot

but i doubt the will go for that

[pseudo sphinx]

I’d slot a rock move at least in place of either

And maybe change the Terra’s in case you don’t get to Terra fire

[vestal vessel]

i didnt think too much about krookodile tbh

the others have their ideal teras for this matchup imo

you could also change items on the last 3 pokemon

rocky helmet on farigifar or dracovish could be nice i think

but those sets also work

i think

[pseudo sphinx]

What’s armor tail do

[vestal vessel]

incase whimsicott or grafaia have something annoying

[pseudo sphinx]

It stops prio?

[vestal vessel]

yep

all priority

[pseudo sphinx]

Oo

And basc aqua jets

Very good support holy

[vestal vessel]

yep

sadly the vgc keeps evolving and now people are using stuff to counter it

like mold breaker fake out tinkaton

the other pokemon that got released with chien pao wo chien and chi yu is also becoming meta again for some reason

pro players are losing it 👍

also wolfeys team could probably win the 3rd tournament in a row

wolfey won, then the next week someone else won with the exact same team

[pseudo sphinx]

Yeah I don’t like vgc lol

It does not require creativity 😔

[vestal vessel]

i do

i mean wolfey won with a pokemon that not many people were using

and it countered the priority spam that was going around

creativity right there

[pseudo sphinx]

Prio spam 🗿

[vestal vessel]

chien pao dragonite entei

[pseudo sphinx]

It takes creativity to survive, but creativity is not required in it

Is what I mean

[vestal vessel]

i guess it also helps with speed control against prankster tailwind

[sterile agate]

OK

[vestal vessel]

the pokemon im talking about is farigiraf btw

[sterile agate]

it doesnt wanna import moves LOL

one sec

[pseudo sphinx]

Switch eq or horsepower for rock move

On krok

[vestal vessel]

i would switch eq out because he doesnt have a terra flying ttar to not die to his own eqs

[sterile agate]

or gliscore

dude the flight t-tar was so big brain

[vestal vessel]

but at what cost

you ruined that dudes day

[sterile agate]

i am worried that using imprison farigiraf is gonna give away my strat for abby

who i know for a fact reviews games

[vestal vessel]

its not like she can do anythiing about it

[sterile agate]

but what if she can

[vestal vessel]

i will find a way to counter her counter

[sterile agate]

true gotta focus on one game at a time

[vestal vessel]

also you have ways to stop trick room with power

before showing your fairigifar strat

[sterile agate]

i think i still like my wish protect calmmind stored power set for this match up more ill trust in your set

[vestal vessel]

and if abby wants to counter your imprison

you have the power in

sand force excadrill

i would trust your set more if it was possible to have a defense boosting move like cosmic power

[sterile agate]

also you think focus sash over life orb for exa?

[vestal vessel]

hmmmm

[upper temple]

Exca 1shots everything anyways

[vestal vessel]

you could give it a try

[upper temple]

[vestal vessel]

i prefer focus sash as a "everything went wrong" item

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2048237598

another trick room team has emerged

[upper temple]

Trick rooms lit

[sterile agate]

what an odd battle

these trickroom teams make me wanna grab clodsire

i know for a fact its slower then anything on abby or this guys team

[pseudo sphinx]

Sash 🤢

[vestal vessel]

goodra sinistcha enjoyer 🤝

HUH

THEY THREW

ON TIURN 7

they still won but that was so sus

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel got time to practice tonight?

[vestal vessel]

no im dying

[upper temple]

[vestal vessel]

(not actually tho)

[upper temple]

No dying

[sterile agate]

[teal salmon]

POKEMON THREAD WOOOOO

HIYA FRIENDS

[fallen bloom]

how did kat sneak in

[teal salmon]

wdym howd i sneak in

i know more about pokemon VGC than i do abt tft

[upper temple]

Pro player

[weary coyote]

Wtf vgc coach in chat

[teal salmon]

i did come 2nd in regionals in australia

for a Scarlet/violet regional

VGC ofc, i dont do singles

[upper temple]

[weary coyote]

Yoo another Australia person

Banger

[teal salmon]

WAIT UR AUSSIE TOO?

[weary coyote]

:D

[pseudo sphinx]

How to draft for dummies

(I’m the dummies)

[sterile agate]

What kinda draft

Like the kind I’m in

[pseudo sphinx]

Mm kinda

Singles and there is a gimmick but not important for team build

[sterile agate]

Singles is EZ street

[pseudo sphinx]

I’m a monotype player so I bad at draft

Gotten better but still

[sterile agate]

You need @vestal vessel for best draft

But I think they sick

I’m Boutta get stomped in my match today

[pseudo sphinx]

Nah ezpz

[upper temple]

Favorite?

[pseudo sphinx]

Bug/Fighting

[upper temple]

[sterile agate]

It’s hard to pick a fav type

Ground/ghost/ice/poison

Are like. My top

[upper temple]

Fav monos prob normal maybe psychic after playing trick room but regularly fighting

[sterile agate]

Fuck trick room users

Dirty players

[upper temple]

Its fun

[sterile agate]

Only for the trick room player

[upper temple]

My trick room mewtwo y goes hard

[pseudo sphinx]

I love versing trick room

[pseudo sphinx]

[sterile agate]

I could see us playing mono type tourney

It could be fun. We could spin a wheel to decide

[pseudo sphinx]

[upper temple]

Idt it actually did anything tho

[pseudo sphinx]

My biggest flex is beating 3 mono flying and 4 mono psychic as fighting in a row

I was sweating so hard 🗿

[sterile agate]

We need 18 people

For a perfect monotype tournament

[sterile agate]

ok

so its the crow and t-tar lead every time

[pseudo sphinx]

Yes

[sterile agate]

foul play into heavy slam for mimikyu
or
tera fire for abomsnow

if he tries to do rain i sunny day

what is farigirafs role in this team LOL

just to block last respects?

[pseudo sphinx]

Bulky support

Blocks I think 2/3 prio moves

[pseudo sphinx]

Aqua jet shadow sneak third one

[sterile agate]

im about to get washed in this

next week is a big dub for me tho

[pseudo sphinx]

Ur team is a lot stronger than theirs, I don’t really see a way for you to lose

[sterile agate]

im just unfamiliar with their comp

the whole revive explode thing

idk when to taunt and when to do things

[pseudo sphinx]

Ah

A rule of thumb for me taunting is, do they think I will swap and they try for a setup move, or do I think they will set hazard/status on me

And then deciding if you need that taunt or if the tailwind speed you get is worth more

[sterile agate]

i hate tryna practice in national dex doubles on showdown

because im so handicapped with no legendarys or paradox

wish me luck lol

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2051123046-vrfz7r6uoxwesimn6pltljvubw5smoqpw

i played it pretty poorly

[pseudo sphinx]

Sheeee

[sterile agate]

Tho that farigiraf switch in was clutch

[pseudo sphinx]

whats a good core with pult

might snag mega scizor

[sterile agate]

What’s the formats @pseudo sphinx

OU?

[pseudo sphinx]

uh

natdex ou maybe?

[sterile agate]

Ah

[weary coyote]

So which pult

Specs, Hex, DDance

[pseudo sphinx]

any

its just a draft rn

[atomic igloo]

@fallen bloom @weary coyote @upper temple @sterile agate HELLO WAKE UP THIS IS NOT AN EXERCISE

Official Pokemon account twitted on reshiram and zekrom

IT IS TIME

[weary coyote]

I am so woke rn Jordan Peterson bouta complain about me

[atomic igloo]

Lmao

[weary coyote]

That's sick though

I kinda hope it's not the BDSP artstyle tho

[atomic igloo]

Same

Give me

A 3D remake

Of unova

With actual good graphics

And it’s a GOTY

Switch 2 fuck it im down

[fallen bloom]

Wtf give info

[upper temple]

[pseudo sphinx]

WHAT

[sterile agate]

I got a shiny zekrom in pokemon go in the airport leaving the TFT open in Vegas

[pseudo sphinx]

In shambles I’m not getting what I want in the draft

So far I got Pult, MScizor, Bundle, AloMuk

Idk what to do from here 🗿

[sterile agate]

Who else you get

[pseudo sphinx]

That’s all

We are waiting on the aussies

Thinking about enamorous-t and making it terra captain

Oh yeah so only a few mons can terra

Like a bunch of low tier/point mons

Or a better flying

[teal salmon]

[sterile agate]

ok

this is the week i fight the drought trick room team

i need to break spirit and soul

the impression farig is good

[pseudo sphinx]

I will be getting this

[sterile agate]

when did evolite qwilfish get so tanky

[upper temple]

Eviolite go brrrr

[sterile agate]

that thing is stronk

[sterile agate]

just hit that sweet 1300 rating for random battles on pokemon showdown

i got a long way to go to back to where i use to be LOL

[upper temple]

I think most ive hit is 1500

I hit top100 in a chunk of other randomized metas tho

[vestal vessel]

nice

[vestal vessel]

since it got the option to use eviolite

[sterile agate]

so abbys probably gonna wanna do her torkoal lead

[upper temple]

U got this

[sterile agate]

i mean for sure

i also think i want to get a special attack ground type for next week

because that garglenacl is gonna cause me issues

but i think both gastrodon and flygon are gone

thoughts on sheerforce nidoqueen?

O WAIT

PALOSAND?

[upper temple]

Both r

[sterile agate]

does weakness policy trigger on palosand when it gets hit with a water type move

[upper temple]

It should

[vestal vessel]

I already thought of a lead that could deal with trick room lead and torkoal lead

[sterile agate]

wanna share with the class?

[upper temple]

Naw u gotta figure it out

[vestal vessel]

excadrill + farigiraf lead

if they lead trick room you keep those in battle, if they lead torkoal switch fari for ttar

solved the matchup

[sterile agate]

Airbaloon t-tar? So I can EQ?

[vestal vessel]

uhhh idk

i didnt think too far

[vestal vessel]

[upper temple]

[vestal vessel]

send list of pokemon

most

of your next opponent

[sterile agate]

torkoal
liligant - hisuin
hatterene
indeedee
slowking galar
tinkaton
dusclops

tseerena

[vestal vessel]

oh i thought they had the other liligant

[sterile agate]

lemme double check

yeah its hisuine

[vestal vessel]

hmmmm

[sterile agate]

theres also a chance she last min switches something

[upper temple]

Pivoting

[vestal vessel]

cooking

[upper temple]

[vestal vessel]

in case everything goes wrong and abby sets up trick room

most you might be able to be a good person this week

because you might not have to bring murkrow with you

[sterile agate]

lol

tho it might be good for the extra dark type if expanding force does start going off

[vestal vessel]

you still have gliscor on your team right?

[sterile agate]

yea

[vestal vessel]

psychic terraiin, hatterene and tsareenas abilities

i dont think the lil guy

can do much tbh

[sterile agate]

true

[vestal vessel]

last pokemon could either be kleavor or gliscor

up to you

[sterile agate]

i havnt had a ton of luck with kleavor tbh

and i doubt shes gonna use focus sash

so the free chip damage is meh

[vestal vessel]

im not too afraid of tinkaton on the back because

you have like 10 earthquake users

dusclops could be annoying

but we could be extra annoying by having taunt on 1 or 2 pokemon

[sterile agate]

dusclops always gets destroyed by knock off

every time we scrimmed

[vestal vessel]

oh but the strat to survive the liligant torkoal lead

involves a non choice band tyranitar

hmmm

and a very evil farigiraf

[sterile agate]

this i am very fine with

does it get helping hand?

[vestal vessel]

it does

but thunder wave is there to ruin lilligant on turn 1

if she leads with it

[sterile agate]

ah fair

[vestal vessel]

so we get to use sand force excadrill

instead of sand rush

just to spice things up

but if you dont want to use sand force then i guess helping hand can be better than thunder wave

[sterile agate]

oh HH was because i know she uses it on indeedee

[vestal vessel]

ah

[pseudo sphinx]

i dont have the bottom 3 yet

and sandaconda is the special one i posted earlier

ill prob make wyrdeer and gallade my terra mons and i can give clefairy 4 new moves and ability, but they cant be anything broken

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel is there a reason poltergiest fails

like other then not holding an item

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2050156826

he says alakazam has an odd insense and lucario has expert belt

[sterile agate]

needs crabominable

[pseudo sphinx]

ewe

ok so no more gallade as it was sniped

instead i have a venusaur that i dont want

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel .

[vestal vessel]

ah idk

[sterile agate]

On god I think he’s lying about items

Also down to scrim later ?

[vestal vessel]

sure i guess

this is the stuff i recommend for your enxt battle

blank spaces are up to you

same goes for the last pokemon

[sterile agate]

[vestal vessel]

and excadrill farigiraf lead seems fine

[pseudo sphinx]

i will have these mons

[vestal vessel]

peepowait

[upper temple]

https://tenor.com/view/perfectlysplendid-goodanswer-clapping-hands-excited-gif-18827657

[sterile agate]

o

i forgot

@vestal vessel im sorry

[vestal vessel]

all good

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel does farigiraf change at all with the knowledge that hatterene has magic bounce

[vestal vessel]

nopers

just dont try to thunder wave hatterenne

and remember if abby leads with liligant torkoal, protect excadrill and use thunder wave on liligant

turn 2 ko torkoal or liligant with excadrill and switch in tyratnir

switch farigiraf for ttar i mean

[sterile agate]

Got it.

[vestal vessel]

if trick room goes upd for some reason you could try to remove it with fari

or send dracovish if you are usin the set i showed you

it should outspeed everyging except slowking

in trick room

and torkoal bit torkoal should die on turn 2

but*

[sterile agate]

Also I gliscor for last Pokémon

[vestal vessel]

if you want to be safe you could terra ground exacdrill to make sure you kill torkoal

ok

[sterile agate]

I was thinking of grabbing Palosand instead of kleavor

[vestal vessel]

thoughts on weezing

im on my bed so cant really check what it does

but you get a grass resistance, levitate and a terrain user to try to counter the rillaboom user

[sterile agate]

Hmm I was also looking at palosand still

I think it could be good if there’s any water users coming up

[vestal vessel]

the water ability doesnt make palossand immune to it

im pretty sure

unless they changed that for sv

[sterile agate]

Yeah but then you weakness policy on it

[vestal vessel]

uhhhh im still not a fan but its to you

[sterile agate]

Lmao if it was for me I’d put feraligatr in

Or crabominable

Or golurk

[vestal vessel]

gliscor and kleavor are open slots for me

[sterile agate]

Gliscor is still pretty solid with a EQ immunity

[vestal vessel]

if you want golurk go for it

also remember to give your farigiraf sap sipper for this match

free switch in into tsareena and lilligant

[sterile agate]

Idk if she’s gonna use liligant

I can see her using something else

[vestal vessel]

not using gtass type against the ground type trainer

should be banneable

[sterile agate]

LOL

[vestal vessel]

grass and fightin hits most of your team

[sterile agate]

Tinkaton might be a grab for my rock

[vestal vessel]

of yeah if tintakaton is out

rmemeber it gets fake out

so protect excadrill to not lose your focus sash if you are still at full hp

oh i already told you thevplan for lilligang torkoal lead

for jndeedee and hatterene lead

you iron head hatterene and click imprison with farigiraf

i believe in you for the rest of the match

just adapt

[sterile agate]

Got it

[upper temple]

[sterile agate]

dude i think technician alolan persion with beat up has potential

nvm im wrong

If it got beat up

It would be perfect for what I want

No yolk

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2057239051-t7pk6wb2nvsvvpcpeya8s0qxp1vkndxpw

[pseudo sphinx]

Oof

Imprison put in work wtf

[vestal vessel]

[sterile agate]

she was not having fun

can confirm was in voice call with her

[sterile agate]

next battle
klefki
hisuin zoroark
espeon
garglnacl
gengar
mawile
volcarona
baxcalibr

but this guy picks up new pokemon every week so it is big possible that 2 of these change

[vestal vessel]

its joever

actually nvm you might be able to go back to earthquake spam

[sterile agate]

LOL

the flying t-tar makes a return

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel he dropped gengar for Golurk an emolga for gyrados

[vestal vessel]

bg

[sterile agate]

Naw it’s fine. Knock off and stone edge gonna out in work

[vestal vessel]

gyarados gets intimidate

[sterile agate]

Thunder punch ttar for sure for sure

[vestal vessel]

and klefki is gonna be annoying on turn 1

[vestal vessel]

the kind of person that leaves their starter on their pc

let me calc something

if its a bulky gyarados

you dont kill with thunder punch and lose infinite hp to waterfall

and excadrill cant do anything and dies to 1 waterfall

im about to get evil

[sterile agate]

I don’t want my win streak to end here

[vestal vessel]

nvm

i thought the ability ignored screens

[upper temple]

U 2 got this

[vestal vessel]

no we dont

[sterile agate]

What about palosand

Also this guy loves explosion on garglenacl

[vestal vessel]

most you gaslighted me enough

to actually like the palossand option

it looks kinda lit now

[sterile agate]

LOL

I’m telling you this might be an option

We ether assault vest or weakness policy it.

Probably weakness since shore up looks like a great option for me

[vestal vessel]

if only farigiraf could learn a water type move

to play weakness policy palosand in trick room

[sterile agate]

Ok hear me out

Rhydon with surf

[vestal vessel]

but then we have a rhydon on the team

why is iron bundle the only good freeze dry user

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2058832074-a3cny2l2md1vb8i9j49zyrwkc7nfmjbpw

Here’s his last battle

[vestal vessel]

paradox pokemon are banned right?

trick room and thunder wave

[sterile agate]

I think we have a chance

Ngl

That’s a moxie gyrados

We have water absorb dracovish

I just have to predict the water fall target

[vestal vessel]

i wish fitzy didnt have their entire team paralyzed so i could tell if gyarados is choice scarf or not

[sterile agate]

He does have two intimidate mons tho

But I doubt mawile will be sent out

[vestal vessel]

all the good electric type pokemon are either banned or physical attackers

i think i solved it

tera electric krookodile and gliscor lead

[sterile agate]

With thunderfang?

[vestal vessel]

tera blast

[sterile agate]

Oh yeah

I always forget about that

LOL

[vestal vessel]

gliscor can be faster than krookodile by 1 point

to click brick break in case klefki goes for screens

or you could go with speed 0 iv and -speed nature on murkrow

and moxie krookodile

but thats kinda risky

up to you

[sterile agate]

I like the gliscor lead with krook

Is it like expert belt krook?

[vestal vessel]

yep

[sterile agate]

Do you think murkow is viable in this ?

[vestal vessel]

yep

i was cooking

[sterile agate]

Ah ok

[vestal vessel]

im so afraid of screens

but klefki only spammed protect for fun during that match

so idk

[sterile agate]

We also have psychic fangs on dracovish

I do think dracovish palosand would be strong LOL

[vestal vessel]

i mean murkrow is not needed too much

[sterile agate]

WAIT

accelgor with water shurikan on palosand

[vestal vessel]

but you would have to drop gliscor and kleavor

[sterile agate]

Loaded dice that’s a 5 times max defence

And for one gimmick

[vestal vessel]

if you wanna try that go for it

rip gliscor and kleavor

you cant really drop murkrow or farigiraf or krookodile

dracovish is doing an okay job

[sterile agate]

Naw it’s fine we can keep the other two

[vestal vessel]

thoughts?

[sterile agate]

Are we sure I don’t just dumpster this guy. I see a lot of crunch targets

[vestal vessel]

time for moxie krookodile?

gliscor also learns tailwind

[vestal vessel]

yeah i thinks its kinda easy

after thinking for 10 minutes

no need to do anything crazy

its just a normal battle

https://pokepast.es/70adb6e8ac2d0a1d

excadrill can use any moves, eartquake or highhorse power, ttar can have a rock move

dracovish psychic fangs i guess

choice scarf on dracovish could be replaced with mystic water or a berry if you plan to have tailwind up for a while

and you could also change intimidate for moxie on krookodile for fun

again, these are suggestions

[sterile agate]

I suggest palosand and muddy water clodsire for sure for sure

[sterile agate]

dude i have a feeling hes gonna try to double intimidate me

[vestal vessel]

clear amulet moxie krookodile, replace highhorsepower wiht earthquake, protect turn one, and set up tailwind with gliscor, ko some pokemon, do that again, spam earthquake once you are at +2 attack, win

[fast meteor]

🤯

[sterile agate]

also i just rewatched the battle it for sure wasnt choiced

it used stone edge

after waterfall

also i battle in like 10 minish

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2062378493-w2gcj4yu4xj3yn57mjr7gt4q4aoos2qpw

i won but it wasnt deserved

i messed up so much

i thought the volcorano was the zoroak thats why i crunched

for some reason krook didnt have tera electric

i should have protected when he explosioned

[pseudo sphinx]

That was an interesting match

[sterile agate]

In my defence. I was awake for 48 hours and went to bed after the match

[pseudo sphinx]

Tera normal explosion is a chad move if they didn’t play bad before then

[sterile agate]

All I’m saying is I thought of it first

[pseudo sphinx]

LOL

[vestal vessel]

im so sorry about that, i did the calc so many times but i forgot to change that in the actual team i guess
you played fine imo

the only missplay i see was turn 1 when you protected with gliscor instead of krookodile other than that it was fine

[sterile agate]

i thought i was gonna oneshot the zoroak

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel aparently for the final bracket we are allowd 1 legendary and 1 mythic

obv i should get landourus

ting-lu?

[vestal vessel]

hmmm

are those trades or do you get to have 10 pokemon instead of 8 now

landorus seems fine, i would honestly go for labdorus-i over therian one

just so you have a sepcial attacker that can oneshot any grass type

chien pao > ting-lu imo

[sterile agate]

extra picks

[sterile agate]

but thats not for a while

also heres updated teams

and updated schedule

im against ries this week

and as scary as his team looks, he hasnt won a round yet

[vestal vessel]

it should be an easy matchup this week

[sterile agate]

also i coached abby to win against seth this week

[upper temple]

Beast player and coach

[vestal vessel]

thoughts on replacing kleavor with galvantula?

[upper temple]

My boi galv

[sterile agate]

im down

[vestal vessel]

if you go for tera blast fire with galvantula and bug buzz and thunderbolt

it literally hits their entire team with super effective damage and outspeeds everything except meowscarada

[sterile agate]

throat spray?

[vestal vessel]

hmmm

[sterile agate]

or expertbelt

[vestal vessel]

expert belt is better imo

[upper temple]

[vestal vessel]

also most

if they let you pick genesect for a mythical then go for it

i think its op

you basically get a tera blast but you dont have to tera your genesect

[sterile agate]

well i get first pick of mythic

but last pick of legendary

since its by rank

[upper temple]

[sterile agate]

these are the standings

[vestal vessel]

omni got some wins

[sterile agate]

he traded some mons and scooped some

[vestal vessel]

I'll try to see if there anything else to cook but i think this is going to be ries team and this should be your team if you get galvantula, last pokemon could be any of your other mons, i prefer farigiraf because palafin and meowscarada have some priority i guess, krookodile could be nice too i guess
(the psychic speed boost mon dies to anything and murkrow can use haze and ferrothorn just dies to galvantula)

[sterile agate]

what do you think of discharge on gal

nvm i only have one ground type in play

i could always infestation his palafin

[vestal vessel]

palafin slaps even when its not in hero form

thats why the gavantula set i had in mind has a lot of evs in defesne so you dont die to 2 jet punch + sand damage

[sterile agate]

ah

okidoki LOL

[vestal vessel]

palafin shouldnt be an issue

with water absorb dracovish, like palafin only has water types moves most of the times

palafin in base form vs your most bulky pokemon (tyranitar)

if it has choice band

[fast meteor]

palafin is cool

he just turns into the other guy

man

[vestal vessel]

[fast meteor]

imma lock in next gen

gonna be the most competitor

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2061797525

heres his last battle

im thinking it is choice banded

we could run a ally swap farigiraf dracovish start

[vestal vessel]

if you lead with dracovish and they lead with their tailwind users either salamence with intimidate or togekiss then i think you are forced to swtich out

the dracovish

i think i have the tech, galvantula farigiraf start, volt switch if palafin is there and use helping hand with fari, switch in dracovish to tank the flip turn from palafin and salamence flamethrower or togekiss air slash

https://pokepast.es/51de45dd4517f61a this is what i would use and remember to check if tera tpyes are correct (mainly fire tera galvantula) and give ttar its last move

[sterile agate]

sounds good

isnt thunder + compound eyes just better?

[vestal vessel]

it is better but i dont trust the 8% chance of missing that move

you can go for it if you want to

just replace thunderbolt with thunder

[sterile agate]

Btw do you think I should grab anyone else for future match ups ?

The only two I can’t drop are T-tar and exadrill

[vestal vessel]

idk
i think your team can handle pretty much anything but i could be wrong

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel so John and Seth are the super try hards of the tournament

And are mad that I haven’t lost

[vestal vessel]

better player always wins

[weary coyote]

fkn john

ain't shit

[vestal vessel]

before i vanish, if you go for thunder on galvantula (dont forget to use compound eyes) you oneshot palafin in its base form, special salamance oneshots galvantula with 1 flamethrower (so make a use of switchs or your tera type), darmanitan its likely scarf, gholdengo can either hold a balloon or be tera flying

[sterile agate]

Got it

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2067490708-woond1dzveakaxcrqya0pff8gpibeklpw

that was closer then i thought it was gonna be

next weekend is gonna be rough

[pseudo sphinx]

Where is the special defence on this team

[fallen bloom]

Nowhere

[vestal vessel]

excadrill and galvantula clear those 8 pokemon (with the help of ttar and farigiraf)

[fallen bloom]

Yeets everything

[pseudo sphinx]

Gets electrocuted once

https://tenor.com/view/lannavo-fish-stick-tinnitus-delux-gif-22717693

:(

[odd oak]

lets see what news we got

[vestal vessel]

i see unowns, lets go johto confirmed

[odd oak]

interesting

[vestal vessel]

furfrou is coming back

also

mega mewtwo z and mega charizard z

[odd oak]

Man watching wolfey break down about the chance of mega incineroar is so funny

[vestal vessel]

surely they give megas to the kalos starters

please give delphox a mega evolution

wolfey is still talking about incineroar

[odd oak]

Ofc, mans traumatized for life

[vestal vessel]

also 2025 release

so they are taking their time

[odd oak]

Yeah

[sterile agate]

I’ll be honest X and Y have a good place in my heart

They are the first games with ✨ fashion ✨

[odd oak]

i remember getting it for christmas and playing it through in one sitting

[sterile agate]

I got it for my birthday with the special release 3DS

Which I still play on LOL

[odd oak]

Ye i got it with a 3ds too, just a regular one

still got it somewhere

[sterile agate]

@vestal vessel what’s the sauce this week LOL

Just hope and prayge I battle better

[vestal vessel]

gravity farigiraf

[sterile agate]

LMAO

He cooking

[vestal vessel]

and tera blast ground galvantula

[sterile agate]

Don’t you think they will switch out the bird if they galvantula tho

[vestal vessel]

volt switch out

[sterile agate]

Maybe not eel

[vestal vessel]

its not like they have a ground type

eel is the reason fari has gravity

they wont see that coming

[sterile agate]

I think the eel is Tera fire

From what I remember

Which is. Bad at best

[vestal vessel]

okay but if you tera fire against the trainer that only has ground and rock type pokemon

you should be banned

[sterile agate]

True

[vestal vessel]

so i dont expect that to happen

if anything i can see tera grass

[sterile agate]

He should just Tera electric

Like a sane person

But they are not

Does haxorus mold breaker apply to the field

[vestal vessel]

what field

[sterile agate]

Nvm I think I’m just rocks for brains

[sterile agate]

Ah ok it’s just hax

I was wondering if it was out + eel. If I could just hit EQ

[vestal vessel]

im checking everyones stats

[sterile agate]

I think ttar can handle hax.

[vestal vessel]

noooo

you cant use modest galvantula

haxorus is faster than you by 7 speed

greninja and sneasler outspeed galvantula no matter what

[sterile agate]

Why don’t I just do bulky gal. With discharge

[vestal vessel]

and galvantula outspeeds everything else even if its not timid

[sterile agate]

Assultvest discharge. Energy ball. Volt switch. Random bullshit

[vestal vessel]

not assaultvest!

[sterile agate]

With exa and gliscor on the team I have options for a switch in

[vestal vessel]

only special attacker is greninja

[sterile agate]

Eel

[vestal vessel]

oh i dont know if that thing is a special attacker

or physical

[sterile agate]

It’s flamethrower special

[vestal vessel]

against your team i can see coil eel

but special also works

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2061135834-ollfzoi7krn9j6gcf4qnqxqedrxbp1fpw

Battles old but he hasn’t submitted in a while

[vestal vessel]

eh

nothng this thing cant handle

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2058832074-a3cny2l2md1vb8i9j49zyrwkc7nfmjbpw

He looks like a one team Andy

I checked 2 other battles. He switches in hax and gogoat lmao

[vestal vessel]

do you think he is going to bring haxorus against you?

[sterile agate]

I think there’s a solid chance

[sterile agate]

But like I said I think ttar can handle it or at least put a sizeable dent into it

[vestal vessel]

either haxorus or gogoat

[sterile agate]

I think there’s a good chance he drops eel for gogoat

[vestal vessel]

eel is immune to your main stab move

ground tpye attacks

that why i put eel there

[sterile agate]

What do I have for gallade? Just bugbuzz

Ttar but he’s gonna drain punch it

[vestal vessel]

choice scarf dracovish

[sterile agate]

The revenge killer

[vestal vessel]

now

on a scale from 1 to 10

how scary does gogoat look

[sterile agate]

Not very imo. I have coverage options out my ass for it

It’s a ice punch choice band TTar game for sure for sure

[vestal vessel]

oh yeah

that thing gets destroyed by ttar

but i was thinking of running chople berry again on ttar just so it survive one fighting move

choice band works too i guess

[sterile agate]

I could also focus it

nvm thats dumb

[vestal vessel]

okay gallade oneshots you even with a chople berry

good to know

so does sneasler

[sterile agate]

maybe focus sash aint the dumbest move?

could hit it with a big knock off

[vestal vessel]

can you have dupe items?

like 2 focus sash

[sterile agate]

naw

[vestal vessel]

uhmmm

[sterile agate]

yeah exa

[vestal vessel]

let me have a look at every item in the game

[sterile agate]

if i loose my winstreak to the rager

im gonna be sad

[vestal vessel]

i think the options that come to my mind are

rocky helmet, item that makes sand last longer

or choice band

[sterile agate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2046174375
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-2050156826

their other two battles

[vestal vessel]

i mean you can live a hit with chople berry if you invest more in hp or defense

but you lose some attack evs

[sterile agate]

ill post their last one when i get it if you want

that is a unerve hax

[vestal vessel]

oh maybe that was just a strat for that battle

i didnt tell you this but i wanted unnerve galvantula just in case someone had a berry that reduces super effective damage

for your last match i mean

[sterile agate]

LOL

how does corivkight mirror armour work with haze from murkow

[vestal vessel]

i guess it cant negate haze

you are not really lowering stats

you are resetting them

[sterile agate]

thoughts?

[vestal vessel]

close

but i guess gliscor is fine too

[sterile agate]

ah i was gonna say i think gliscore for the status immunity is good

tho

[vestal vessel]

you can still get parad by sneasler

[sterile agate]

shouldnt toxic orb overwrite it?

[vestal vessel]

hmmm intimidate looks nice against that team but a fighting resist also looks nice

not if you get hit before it poisons your gliscor

what do you prefer

gliscor or krook

just for some test battles

[sterile agate]

prob gliscor

[vestal vessel]

what moves

[sterile agate]

dual. EQ, protect, knockoff

[vestal vessel]

also wanna do a few test battles?

[sterile agate]

sure

[vestal vessel]

https://pokepast.es/d9d9536aa540592b

give moves and evs to gliscor

[sterile agate]

im playing some tft rn so gimme a sec

but im down

[vestal vessel]

ok

[sterile agate]

what do you think about facade on gliscor

[vestal vessel]

oh i forgot, give ttars defense evs

[sterile agate]

ok

ready

brandnamecerealbox

[vestal vessel]

its fine i gues

very important thing to keep in mind, do not let galvantula die unless corviknight goes down

okay that was a cirt

mb

[sterile agate]

i got

beat LOL

[vestal vessel]

honestly, you played that well

despite the unlucky rng at the start

[sterile agate]

lemme try something

[vestal vessel]

if you see greninja with fari galvantula start

protect galvantula and thunder wave greninja

same goes for sneasler and gallade

dual wingbeast was a nice move to have

i forgot gliscor got that

also remember that you can switch in ttar on the same turn excadrill attack, you get the boost from sand

on that same turn

cleeean game

wtf ttar was faster

[sterile agate]

173

[vestal vessel]

ah nvm

i didnt see i got flinched

[sterile agate]

OH

i didnt ether

LOL

[vestal vessel]

also

gravity is not that important

you also increse your opponents accuracy

thunder wave is more important even if you have a chance of missing it

[sterile agate]

i didnt realize how slow farigiraf was

i was gonna do an EQ ally switch

[vestal vessel]

gravity is there to deal with corvi and eel if you lose galvantula

thunder wave on gren sneasler gallade is way more important

you are adapting

[sterile agate]

shoulda saw that coming

[vestal vessel]

fishous rend is stronger than leech life btw

by like 10 power i think

or even more

[sterile agate]

yeah i wanted to test the power

if it would kill from that range

this guy always with the crits

[vestal vessel]

i would get rid of discharge tbh

you lose a lot of damage with that

[sterile agate]

yeah

[vestal vessel]

or at least replace bug buzz with thunder

as you saw, gogoat isnt that big of threat

and is the only pokemon that takes super effective damage from bug