Logo for my black mesa project

[polar yacht]

Half-Life: The Pioneer, It's a story I made that tells a little before the events of Half-life 1

I'm trying to learn how to make Black Mesa mods to make a really good mod.

I don't expect to reach the level of bm bs but I want to get close!

Half-Life: The Pioneer is a prequel set in 1978, long before the events of the original Half-Life. It follows a young Dr. Wallace Breen and his two close colleagues, Joseph and Montgomery, who work at the Black Mesa Research Facility. The trio specializes in studying alien lifeforms but is not involved with teleportation experiments. When Black Mesa discovers a rare opportunity to send a team to the borderworld Xen, they force Breen and his friends to go, using the mission as a way to trap them due to their desire to leave the facility.

On Xen, the team discovers the Combine, a powerful interdimensional empire exterminating native species. The Combine mistake the humans for Xen natives and attack. There were originally three Nihilanths, each tied to different aspects of Xen's ecosystem, but the Combine are wiping them out. Joseph and Montgomery are killed in the chaos, and Breen barely survives.

Desperate and vengeful, Breen strikes a secret deal with the seventh, lowest-ranking Combine Administrator. In exchange for his life, he offers the Combine access to Earth once another portal is opened. Breen journeys across the alien landscape to reach a distant Combine mothership, fighting creatures and Combine forces never seen again—species later extinct due to the Combine purge.

This experience scars Breen and fuels his later decisions. He returns to Earth and eventually becomes the Earth's Administrator after the Combine invasion, as seen in Half-Life 2. The Pioneer explores his transformation from a determined scientist to a desperate survivor and eventual collaborator, showing why he acts with such fear and authority in later games.

The synopsis is a little wrong because this version is old, but I intend to change everything from black mesa, HEV Mark 3, Old guns, new xen creatures (maybe)

im also animating some stuff for this mod

[lucid condor]

The shotgun animation really reminded me from 2012 bms

[polar yacht]

its my first time animating so its expected to be a bit bms 2012

But i think that the most decent animation i made was the reloading one

[polar yacht]

This

[lucid condor]

Does looks nice tbh

[polar yacht]

thanks!

[haughty cedar]

Ngl it would be sick to see the “Old Labs” from blue shift in a pristine condition with the MK I or even MK II HEV suit being around

[polar yacht]

thats the idea

[haughty cedar]

actually

How old is Breen

[polar yacht]

well

i guess

40 or 50

idk

i didnt think about that

[haughty cedar]

He’s 52 by the 7 Hour War

Or the end of it

So

In Half Life 2 he’s

72 years old

(Holy shit someone aged well)

[polar yacht]

lol

so i guess in my story hes

40 or 30

yeah

something around that

[haughty cedar]

He would be 23 if 1978

If the theoretical date is 2001

But if we say 2004

The date when HL2 released

As the date for HL1

He’s 26

Which means he just graduated

Something like what Freeman is

[polar yacht]

so the accounts add up! thank goodness

[haughty cedar]

But maybe instead of direct testing he’s somewhere in the administration

(Which would explain how he has power later down the line, he was already in an officer space/mamagement)

[haughty cedar]

Indeed.

Black Mesa would be about 28 years old

Since the facility was converted to research in the 50’s

[polar yacht]

I want to share my story on forums to see if I can make this a reality, but I think the concept is too complex for gold source

instead of HECU the soldiers would be the combine

[haughty cedar]

The fun thing is is that the MP-5 can actually stay in game

It was developed in the 60’s

[polar yacht]

the 357 too

[haughty cedar]

Remington Model 870 could replace the SPAS-12

[polar yacht]

I think I'll need to go for a Remmington 870m shotgun

[haughty cedar]

It was the most common military grade shotgun of the late 70’s

[polar yacht]

yeah

[haughty cedar]

same wavelength ong

The 1911A1 would still be the standard issue

The Beretta was still in a “experimental stage” at this point

Though it did exist

But was never officially issued anywhere until the 80’d and 90’s

[polar yacht]

the colt M1911 is a good pistol, i'll leave it at that

[haughty cedar]

Actually

I take it back

Beretta 92 was still around

The 93R was also in use

Which allows for the automatic and semi fire

Seen with the Glock

In BM

[polar yacht]

ill go with the 93R then

[haughty cedar]

The only drawback is that it was never officially used by the United States

BUT

BM could’ve bought it privately

Same with the MP-5

[polar yacht]

I want to start making the alpha of my mod but I still need to learn Blender, how to import weapons, hammer and stuff like that.

[haughty cedar]

Blender is great

Honestly

Source games as a whole are actually not that bad to construct if you know what you’re doing

The only issue?

it’s source

[polar yacht]

This is a video of my old project, the op4 remaster

In this project I intended to redo the structure of the original maps and improve the weapons, NPCs, etc.

but it didn't come out of the shotgun

[haughty cedar]

The 93R shot 9x19mm Parabellim rounds

It had a mag cap of 15 with standard flush box magazines

aka a standard magazine

[haughty cedar]

Sick

[polar yacht]

almost the same as glock 17

i have some black mesa stuff too

honestly it was not so difficult

i made this one too

its an higher mp5 rpm

[polar yacht]

I tried to make it similar to OBM

[haughty cedar]

Nice

These look good

[polar yacht]

thanks!

[haughty cedar]

It can actually have 17

With a higher capacity mag

The highest it could hold with a box magazine was 35 (extended)

If it had a drum it could sport 50

[polar yacht]

wow

I think to show that the weapon is kind of old and such I'll leave the capacity at 15

[haughty cedar]

Agreed

Plus it’s already kinda rare

To find the US

[polar yacht]

exactly

https://youtu.be/HjH1yk2duv4?si=wYbpAYWKo94AZn-8

[haughty cedar]

This project looks great

[polar yacht]

thanks

I intend to get a bigger team in the future, but for now it's just me and my dreams

[haughty cedar]

Im excited to see how this progresses

This as a concept looks nice

Plus it would be good to see a humanized Breen

none the less as a protagonist

[polar yacht]

yep

I was going to put another character in his place but I thought of him at the time and said "why not?"

and it wasn't a bad idea

[haughty cedar]

The only technical plot thing would be

Breen continuing to send people to Xen

Since he knows the Combine could strike again

But with the earlier connection to the combine

It explains how he was able to get into contact and negotiate

[polar yacht]

I didn't think about that

Well, another point to fix

My story is full of holes, especially about Breen's personality.

[haughty cedar]

Well

That can be excusable since

We never see what Breen was like hefore

[polar yacht]

yeah

[haughty cedar]

In HL2 he’s just viewed as an evil collaborator and bureaucrat

Little room to imagine his “before the fall” attitude

So

I googled this

Apparently

He had plans for world control of some kind

Or power

or something

The world thing may just be a fan theory

But according to the actual overwiki

He was very manipulative, prideful, and controlling

It also suggests he knew about GMan, his employers, and their plans long before HL2 and HL1

[polar yacht]

so that means i can make gman appear in my mod right?

[haughty cedar]

theoretically yes

Perhaps it’s GMan arranging something with the combine or the vorts

morticians, Google 💔

Maybe even GMan dropping subtle hints or stalking until he out right confronts Breen

And sets him up with a “prophecy”

[polar yacht]

look what i made too

MB

LOL

[haughty cedar]

It could be

so

It could be Breen’s confrontation with the GMan

That changes his personality to be more controlling

[haughty cedar]

Since he’s trying everything he can to not let whatever GMan wants to happen

But it only ends up leading GMan right to what he wants

[polar yacht]

YEP

caps

and thats his plan

[haughty cedar]

Also would make sense why

After suddenly being tossed out to die

He ends up in power over Black Mesa

[polar yacht]

yep

thats it

[polar yacht]

It's kind of obvious that it's AI but it was reasonable

[haughty cedar]

GMan watching a man be driven to insanity and doing everything he can to “stop” your already inevitable plans (there’s unforeseen consequences coming:

[haughty cedar]

It doesn’t sound that bad though

Which is the thing

[polar yacht]

great!

[haughty cedar]

believe me, I’ve seen many mods before

it uh

[polar yacht]

lol

[polar yacht]

back

[haughty cedar]

For Ai the replication is actually really good

[polar yacht]

depends on my voice too

but

Thanks for coming here to give me some ideas and compliment the project

[haughty cedar]

Of course.

This is really great to see branching concepts

I’m glad there’s also a new take on something

And a prequel none the less

[polar yacht]

This idea of ​​an older black mesa came to me while I was playing black mesa blue shift

[haughty cedar]

Adds a lot of potential in new settings, characters, and gameplay

[polar yacht]

seeing the ruins of old laboratories, the experiments

[haughty cedar]

What’s nice too is that Blue Shift helps map it out too

After all

[polar yacht]

mainly the zombies using the HEV Mark 3

[haughty cedar]

Rosenberg mentions where the old entrances are

And how the facility was much larger

And extended much into the settings we see in the games

[polar yacht]

yeah

[haughty cedar]

actually

When was the MK II suit made

Or even the MK I

[polar yacht]

already dreamed about my complete mod once, the gameplay was Breen running through Xen shooting enemies with the Colt M4, the enemies were strange species and combines

[polar yacht]

I have never seen any concept of the mark 1

[haughty cedar]

This is the earliest I’ve seen

The concept art

Honestly

It looks like a 60’s era space suit

[polar yacht]

wow

thats a cool suit

i think ill make a easter egg

[haughty cedar]

So

The community generally uses

The concept art

Progression

For the HEV suits

[haughty cedar]

This is MK I

This is MK II

And MK III is seen in BM:BS

[polar yacht]

I had seen an interesting concept of the mark 2

[polar yacht]

this one

[haughty cedar]

oo

[haughty cedar]

The only thing is the Lambda symbol

Since it didn’t exist yet

(The lab, I mean)

I did find this

https://preview.redd.it/6jwy84glnbl81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0b91283a7b984b37db31066554bc2c6499bb7c41

From left to right

Mark 5, Mark 4, Mark 3, Mark 2

[polar yacht]

the old mark 3 model is ugly

bm bs is alot better

[haughty cedar]

Yup

[haughty cedar]

Oo

[polar yacht]

I think I'll make a mini teaser to see if I can attract some help for the mod

[haughty cedar]

I’d offer my help

But

My modeling ability is

atrocious

Concept ideas and ideas would be about the only thing I could offer

[polar yacht]

No problem, you've already helped me a lot thinking about story ideas and etc.

[haughty cedar]

I’m just glad to help and support

[polar yacht]

I'm just worried about the programming part, C++ seems very complicated

[haughty cedar]

Please give updates on this project if it goes ahead

[polar yacht]

and if I can't find a programmer the mod will end there

[polar yacht]

of course!

[haughty cedar]

understandable

C++ is…

[polar yacht]

my worst nightmare.

[haughty cedar]

Yup

[polar yacht]

the blender part is also a bit complicated but I managed to learn what was necessary for now

[polar yacht]

Do you know how to work with textures?

[haughty cedar]

not really

[polar yacht]

I think the first thing I'm going to do is the arms of the mark 3

[haughty cedar]

I’ve worked on projects before

But

I’ve never done physical modeling or texture work

I’ve only really done general concept or script writing

(As in story script)

Or play testing

[polar yacht]

thats cool!

[haughty cedar]

I tried learning scripting but ran out of the time

I think I’ve done concept art like

once

[polar yacht]

I'll try to change the texture of the mark 4

i just need to find the mark 3 model

[haughty cedar]

It may be on the workshop

For SFM

[polar yacht]

lemme see

ugh

the ugly one

well

as long we dont see the head

its fine

[polar yacht]

@haughty cedar first progress!

[haughty cedar]

sick

[lucid condor]

Let this man cook

I can already smell

Its gonna be epic

[polar yacht]

i think instead of the beretta 23r ill go with de 1911a1

its easier to find stuff and videos about it

[haughty cedar]

The standard mag cap for 1911A1s would be 7 in a standard mag

8 if you have one already chambered

[proper valley]

Trust your process don't give up even if it's hard, your passion will create the mod as a way you want to expect it, I remember when I first create my mod it was very challenging but my enthusiasm motivated me.

[polar yacht]

I won't give up on this project any time soon

I just need to know how some things work, hammer editor and stuff

What's your mod by the way?

[proper valley]

Black Mesa Concealed information

[haughty cedar]

I second this.

Keep trying to achieve what you want through your desire to create something that you are proud of and enjoy making, even if it’s challenging

[polar yacht]

NO WAY

Dude i love your mod

[proper valley]

Glad you enjoy it, because there is more to come

[polar yacht]

Yeeaaah

Lets go

Well if you told me not to give up then I won't

[haughty cedar]

I just saw this lmao

Good work mate

[polar yacht]

I have no idea what to do now, they told me to post my progress on lambda generation to see if anyone is interested

[polar yacht]

New logo!

I was inspired by the mods that already exist

Todo list

• HEV 3
• Colt M1911a1 Replacement for glock
• Adjust the value of ammunition
• Get a team 👍

[polar yacht]

Thank you for letting me use the HEV 3 VOX! I really appreciate it.

[polar yacht]

https://streamable.com/ssmijj

in project pioneer ill try to use realistic shooting sounds

the vanilla ones are cool but i want a bit of realism

[haughty cedar]

Oh hell yeah

Nice

[polar yacht]

the hev vox i got permission to use in the mod

[haughty cedar]

Honestly it’d be cool to see this map published as a “tech demo” later down the line (when everything is a bit more set and refined…not saying it’s bad at all)

[polar yacht]

ill make a lil demo

the maps will require a lot, most of the campaign will take place only in xen

After Hecu Collective released the audio log, I reworked the dates a bit

[haughty cedar]

I see

[polar yacht]

the hev mark 1 was 85

[haughty cedar]

ohhh

wait

Damn

I would’ve figured it would’ve been much

Earlier

[polar yacht]

not only in xen but also in combine-style structures

It's because the synopsis is kind of old and poorly explained, but I'll make a doc later telling the story correctly.

[haughty cedar]

I’m curious

Did the tram system exist

By the

whichever date you choose again

[polar yacht]

Made some new stuff

And a YouTube channel

I also talked about the mod on lambda Generation

And a YouTube channel

https://youtube.com/@blackmesaprojectpioneer?si=RP5wD62tR9uI8vO8

[haughty cedar]

This is peak…..

[polar yacht]

Im posting some stuff in the community

[polar yacht]

custom weapon sounds mixed with vanilla, just like blue shift!

It's really cool to compare my progress

The old logo and the new one

[fallow wagon]

you should change the background to a video of the office building, where everyone is walking around and doing things

[polar yacht]

I need a mapper to do this, and I also need to know how to do it

[haughty cedar]

Sounds really good

Hyped to see it in action in the future

Also, did you already incorporate the HEV 3 view model?

[polar yacht]

I couldn't, I couldn't find anyone who could do it.

I even tried but I couldn't

[haughty cedar]

Ah

Must just have been the saturation

Looked like the MK 3

[polar yacht]

that was a custom texture i used for place holder

[haughty cedar]

Ah

[polar yacht]

tomorrow ill release the link for the BMPP discord server

[fallow wagon]

sweet

ill 100% join

[lucid condor]

[lucid condor]

Whrees the server

[polar yacht]

My bad guys

I couldn't complete it today

It's almost ready, just missing the roles, verification and emojis

[lucid condor]

Okay

[polar yacht]

@haughty cedar I'm getting help changing the view model arm!

[haughty cedar]

Let’s goooooo!

[polar yacht]

Sorry for The delay guys

The Project is currently frozen

[polar yacht]

I was recently cheated on and I'm feeling a bit down, so not much will come of it

[haughty cedar]

damn man…

I’m sorry to hear about that

Hope everything’s going alright

[glossy jay]

I'm sorry about that man, hopefully you'll find another person who is actually loyal to you. Stay strong bro ❤️

I love the work you've been putting into this project, I'll be looking forward to it once you decide to come back and complete it 🙏

[polar yacht]

thanks for the support guys

im back into making the mod too

im feeling better already

[polar yacht]

I paused the pioneer project for a while ok guys?

I'm now working on Black Mesa Opposing Force

But Project Pioneer is not canceled

[haughty cedar]

Nice man

Good luck on that project!

Looking forward to your return

[polar yacht]

I made some progress on that project already

I made the wrench

And the start of foxtrot uniform

[haughty cedar]

epic

[polar yacht]

@haughty cedar https://streamable.com/ywmc0x

test map i made

also the wrench and the desert eagle i changed some stuff on them

[haughty cedar]

Will the deagle have a more reflective texture?

[polar yacht]

the swing speed of the wrench is slower, the desert eagle holds 7 bullets and 36 reverse just like the og

[polar yacht]

oh it already have, the problem is the ilumination on the map

its unfinished

[haughty cedar]

ah

[haughty cedar]

i see

i was wondering if it was just the lighting

[polar yacht]

im so excited to make a trailer

i hope it gets attention

[haughty cedar]

it def will

dude

people have been BEGGING

for a OPFOR remake

thers no way it wont

[polar yacht]

we plan to make it a simple project

not too many guns

but we are planing to add just one new gun

yk that the assasins glock are a different weapon right?

and we can pick them up

so if we change the script

and the model

kaboom

new weapon

someone already did that

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3012406413&searchtext=m4

Ooh

It break assasins

Not a great idea

But i hate them anyway

Meh

[haughty cedar]

huh

interesting

i like y'all are keeping it simple though

too much change can def throw off the balance of the OG game

[polar yacht]

Yep

Just change hands

Sounds

The maps

And new story

To skip the bosses

[polar yacht]

@haughty cedar hey, what is this called?

[haughty cedar]

a railing

guard rail

[polar yacht]

thanks!

[polar yacht]

https://streamable.com/jdp91f

well

[thorn kiln]

fire

[haughty cedar]

Hey man just checking in to see how it’s going

[polar yacht]

Oh its going great!

[haughty cedar]

sweet

[polar yacht]

hey guys

so

i got kicked out of project gearbox team

so ill get back on making pioneer stuff

[haughty cedar]

What

What happened

[polar yacht]

basicly

i got the sfx dude

to help us

then i got him on the teams server

and said that he was gonna help us

i asked the sfx dude to introduce himself

and he did

saying that hes the sfx guy

then the director kicked me from the server

and said i was making decisions over his head without asking

but everything i was doing i was sharing with him

i got tons of videos of my work

that i was sharing with him

well

but it doesnt matter now

[haughty cedar]

damn

I’m sorry about that

[polar yacht]

No problem

I wanted to go back on working stuff for pioneer anyway

[polar yacht]

https://streamable.com/1413fm

[fallow wagon]

the man who sold the world??

[polar yacht]

hey guys so, ik its a bit quiet here and, its bc im still searching for help

well

[polar yacht]

sucessfuly imported citadel into black mesa

that means i can make combine structures just fine

[polar yacht]

Do you guys have any suggestions?

ALSO

caps

remaking combine outpost

Its inspired in a concept art i asked chat gpt to make

Im sorry for having to use AI guys

But i got no artist

[polar yacht]

also the hev is orange again cuz im remaking the branch

[lucid condor]

Okay

[polar yacht]

also im gonna add the AR2

or a A1 proto

[polar yacht]

@haughty cedar what do you think?

the ar should be the prototype 1

or ar2

as the new gun

[haughty cedar]

If

We go off is like

The AR-1 was developed sometime after the seven hour war

The SMG was made by H&K (the same guys who made the irl MP-5)

[polar yacht]

oh we wont replace the mp5

entire new gun i mean

[haughty cedar]

that’s what I mean

[polar yacht]

ooh

ok

[haughty cedar]

Imo it’s complete artistic freedom

Combine elements from the combine and Xen weaponry to make your own take on the main battle rifle of the combine

[polar yacht]

well

yeah

hmm

i think

a more futuristic gun

maybe

[haughty cedar]

aye

[polar yacht]

a rifle

something like that

im happy that we got a new gun

well

its a replacement of the assassin glock

theres no combine assassins so we can just replace their weapons

or

maybe

a irl rifle

m16

or a m4a1

[haughty cedar]

Hmm

[polar yacht]

well

i asked gpt for a concept

inspired by the OICW

OH YEAH

OICW

[haughty cedar]

Rip

[polar yacht]

well

he gave me this

i didnt like it very much

looks just like a normal rifle with a glowing thing

[haughty cedar]

I’m not gonna lie

Dumb the magazine

Use the energy thing

[polar yacht]

oh

good idea

[haughty cedar]

Make it like

Rechargeable over time

Like the hive hand

But much slower

Or it overheats

[polar yacht]

like ez2 pistol

[haughty cedar]

Ye

[polar yacht]

good idea

[haughty cedar]

Maybe have an alt fire

That uses like

50% of the energy

That fires a orb

Similar to the pulse rifle

So we can see where the previous technology with the AR-2 came from

It also would be good for paper familiarity

While staying unique

[polar yacht]

fire idea

[haughty cedar]

Maybe replace the stock with a more solid one

[polar yacht]

ill note it

[haughty cedar]

Or maybe remove the stock as a whole

[polar yacht]

wait

solid

?

wdym by solid

[haughty cedar]

yeah

I mean like

Like this

[polar yacht]

ooh

[haughty cedar]

Instead of it being that kind

(I don’t know what it’s called off hand)

[polar yacht]

yeah that kind of stock gpt made is ugly

[haughty cedar]

I feel like the rifle should be more meaty too

The barrel at least

Like rounded

[polar yacht]

ooh

yeah

[haughty cedar]

Sort of like the T-21 from Star Wars

[polar yacht]

lemme search that gun

wow thats a cool looking rifle

[haughty cedar]

it’s based off the Lewis Gun

a very very skinned Lewis Gun

[polar yacht]

the receiver is similiar to the mp5 or hk 54

[haughty cedar]

Actually

A HELLDIVERS 2 gun just popped into my mind

[polar yacht]

which one?

[haughty cedar]

Scorcher

[polar yacht]

well

i think its a bit too futuristic

[haughty cedar]

True

[polar yacht]

the new gun gotta be something like uhh

[haughty cedar]

I kinda dig the wider, rounded barrel though

[polar yacht]

the mp5 and ar2

yeah

bruh chat gpt is dumb af

[haughty cedar]

If you keep the general frame and grip

It resembles the MP-5

[polar yacht]

im asking him to remove the ammo thing and he keeps removing the blue barrel

[haughty cedar]

With the solid stock and the energy weapon + the alt fire it has the AR-2 vibe to it

[polar yacht]

yeah

oh but

how am i going to make the npcs hold the weapon?

the grunts are only able to hold the pistol

shotgun

and mp5

oh finally

[haughty cedar]

You could tweak the shotgun animation

And replace the base reload with

The AIR or SMG

well

if we do the cooldown tho

[polar yacht]

ill figure something out

well

ok

the guns name is gonna be

i think

CR-21

its a good name

gpt sometimes has good ideas

ooor maybe

[haughty cedar]

Combine Rifle 21

[polar yacht]

i add the ak 47

or akm

[polar yacht]

i think the combine dont call themselves the combine

[haughty cedar]

The big thing about the AK-47 is that this is the

[haughty cedar]

Universal Union

yeah

[polar yacht]

its more like a codename the citizens gave them

ooh

[haughty cedar]

The thing about the AK platform is that this is Cold War America

[polar yacht]

AR because Assault Rifle

[haughty cedar]

So

Soviet weaponry would be a bit

[polar yacht]

yeah

[haughty cedar]

hard to come by

[polar yacht]

lol

look at this

[haughty cedar]

Uhhh

Folding stock

Yeah

[polar yacht]

no its bc

[haughty cedar]

yeah…

[polar yacht]

i asked the front vision

[haughty cedar]

The scope looks like a camera

[polar yacht]

im gonna model the gun in a modeling game ik

yeah

[haughty cedar]

this is what my GPT

came up with

[polar yacht]

o

lol

that looks uh

well

its a gun

[haughty cedar]

indeed it is

it’s a gun alright

[thorn kiln]

if you want i can make a reference for something, i can quickbuild in gmod, im good at that

js lmk if you want an idea

[polar yacht]

That would be great!

[thorn kiln]

let me know what the scenery would be

[polar yacht]

Well, the first biome is a water one, like the ones we see before interloper, it would be like combine sewers, That we would have to cross through the water and access places that would not be accessible normally that would lead to the top of the base, and there would be destroyed places because the base is still in production, And there's a war going on

[thorn kiln]

can you draw it in ms paint, like a really shitty reference art to make a better reference art

[polar yacht]

k

[thorn kiln]

so like a dam, or a river flowing down

[polar yacht]

Modern art be like:

Yeo

Yep*

[thorn kiln]

1 or 2

[polar yacht]

I think 2

[thorn kiln]

alr

[polar yacht]

Like that half life 2 one

After the boss fight

Water hazard i think

[thorn kiln]

oh yeah

alr

[polar yacht]

Can you make uhh, something like the air exchange

From Hl2 beta

With those pipes

To walk on

Stairs

And a big tower

Like a big box

A Citadel but really smop

Smol*

[thorn kiln]

can i make it 2night later, i gotta do shit

[polar yacht]

np

[thorn kiln]

combine made river and cooling tower from csgo is best i could do

i would expand the river

and dry stuff around it

[polar yacht]

Ok thats cool

[thorn kiln]

its kinda shit because im more of the posing scenery side of gmod

[polar yacht]

No problem

I need someone with good ideas too

I have 0 ideas

The only one i had was the sewer thing

[thorn kiln]

i can kinda help

look for hl2 beta ref photos

[polar yacht]

That would be awesome

k

[thorn kiln]

can still help wit ideas

[polar yacht]

The main Idea was that

The combine mothership is dropping lots of combine ships in xens islands

And each one of the islands are different biomes

And breen needs to destroy all the bases on all the islands

To cut the connection to the mothership for it to lose the energy field

Then breen can get in the mothership

The first biome is gonna be the water one

The Forest

Yk?

Maybe another gonarch

[thorn kiln]

i have bm: s mounted to my gmod so i can actually pose some black mesa stuff as references if you want

[polar yacht]

That is awesome!!

You will really help me a lot with this project

[thorn kiln]

i have ZERO indications of a life dawg, here to help whenever anyone needs man

[polar yacht]

Thanks alot dude

Ok so

[thorn kiln]

np

[polar yacht]

I got some concepts

[thorn kiln]

mkay

[thorn kiln]

explain

[polar yacht]

Well

The sewer is gonna be like a underground base

With ALOT of water

And alot of combine (hecu grunts)

Hmm

Lemme ser

See*

Imagine like

Water hazard

Its an open sewer

With some flora

And stuff

And xen creatures

[thorn kiln]

forgot what that is

[polar yacht]

Plants

Crystals

Etc

[thorn kiln]

keep typing brb tho,

[thorn kiln]

alr

[polar yacht]

Hmm

Lemme ser

see*

[thorn kiln]

just plants in a sewer

[polar yacht]

Yep

Lemme make another piece of art

i made this real quick but ill add another thing to it

Here it is

Made 2 versions

I think the giant tower can be made with brushes right?

[polar yacht]

i tried making the xen infection thing but

im not good with displacements

[thorn kiln]

wip

want me to fully detail it or just base it as a ref art

[polar yacht]

just a ref

[thorn kiln]

alr

[polar yacht]

also did ya see the reference too?

[polar yacht]

this one

[thorn kiln]

yes

@polar yacht this good?

[polar yacht]

yo

Is awesome

Better than anything i would do with 5 hours of work

[thorn kiln]

you have potential dawg

you better at coding

which is harder than ts

[polar yacht]

Well

I guess so

[thorn kiln]

back w/o water

[thorn kiln]

whole thing w/o water and mat_fullbright 1 | w / test lights

[polar yacht]

Back

That looks so cool dude omg

[thorn kiln]

using skybox/sky_dawn01

if yuou need anymore ref art from gmod i got you

@polar yacht

[polar yacht]

im here

[thorn kiln]

alr

[polar yacht]

Ok

Thanks pal

[thorn kiln]

np

[polar yacht]

Oh and

Can you gimme the map file?

[thorn kiln]

this in gmod though

custom made

wit scenebuild

[polar yacht]

No problem

[thorn kiln]

no hammr

alr

gm_blackv3

[polar yacht]

k

[thorn kiln]

you should add a vent breaking and steam spewing out and an alarm nearby sounding

[polar yacht]

Good idea!

[thorn kiln]

did a shitty scary sewer photo

[polar yacht]

You have any suggestions for this map tho?

Its a combine outpost

The start of the sewer chapter to be more specific

[thorn kiln]

let mne think

add compine spires or buildings or extra lookout buildings ontop of the rock

make the dam oir wall into more of a futuristic combine texture if you can

add breakable rubble and ammo near the area

add rubble near the dam to show its damage

[thorn kiln]

make the lights bluer also

[polar yacht]

yep

noted

[thorn kiln]

are you gonna do some borealis shit or nah (i cuss alot so dont take it as rudeness)

[polar yacht]

hmm

thats a good idea

[thorn kiln]

i got an idea

[polar yacht]

hm

whats the idea?

[thorn kiln]

makin it rn

[polar yacht]

oke

[thorn kiln]

so, the idea is, you peer out of a window after escaping the combine near an arctic base or smth (or you get teleported on the borealis) and you see the borealis (or notice you;re on it)

[polar yacht]

yo

i got a banger idea

at the end of the mothership scene

we get teleported to borealis

to meet gman

[thorn kiln]

like ez2

[polar yacht]

Yeah

[thorn kiln]

man how the fuck did this zeppilin appear

[polar yacht]

I have no idea

[thorn kiln]

im bored as shit do you have any more things that need as a ref art

[polar yacht]

Well

Can you make uhh

The inside of the combine outpost?

Like

Before the sewers

[thorn kiln]

yeah

[polar yacht]

you can do it with your imagination

i got no concept or stuff like that

[thorn kiln]

i got nothin

brain empty rn

might do it tmrw

[polar yacht]

np

im studying rn

[thorn kiln]

im out of school

[polar yacht]

lucky

[fallow wagon]

you could try and do like a combine soldier who isnt fully into a suit, like a anti-citizen beta guy

because the seven hour war was so quick, i have a headcannon that the combine used their own technology to take human soldiers, and turn them into their own

like how we see in the last part of hl2

but a suuuuper basic and rushed version

cuz it would have needed to be fast

and the conversion speed would be slow

and the combine would have time to upgrade their tech to make it faster

[polar yacht]

maybe the combine robots from opposing force 2

Oh and

The war im talking about its not the 7 hour war

Is the xenian war

[thorn kiln]

combine in xen fighting xenian creatures and vortigaunts taking shelter

[polar yacht]

yeah

fighting the alien grunts

[thorn kiln]

yeah

[polar yacht]

Ok the first demo will be the sewer one

It will feature the chapter

** Contamination Flow **

[thorn kiln]

give me footage

what you developing it on?

[polar yacht]

I got no footage

Oh its in Black Mesa

I actually didn't quite understand the question but the mod is from Black Mesa

[thorn kiln]

yeah but

what map creating tool you using

[polar yacht]

hammer

[thorn kiln]

ah

how you port it to bm

[polar yacht]

port what?

[thorn kiln]

and my hammer dont work

[polar yacht]

oh

[thorn kiln]

please help me with it

[polar yacht]

black mesa hammer?

hammer++

?

[thorn kiln]

basic src hammer

[polar yacht]

wait my english is bugging

say it again

[thorn kiln]

basic source hammer, like the ones for gmod mods and hl2 mods

[polar yacht]

ooh

its on Black Mesa/bin

[thorn kiln]

mine dont work

help me

whenever i boot up hammer the map dont show, its a grey screen

[polar yacht]

can ya send me a screenshot?

[thorn kiln]

yes

[polar yacht]

that strange

you can search for the problem in a forum

but

lets try something

delete the bin folder

from black mesa

but

before that

[thorn kiln]

its basic hammr

[polar yacht]

Ik

[thorn kiln]

from source sdk

[polar yacht]

Oh

Then idk

My bad idk nothing about these config stuff

My peak of intelligence was building the hammer++ in Black Mesa

[thorn kiln]

this is black mesa basic src bms/bin/hammer

[polar yacht]

Hmm

Yeah

Trying deleting the bin folder from Black mesa

Do you know how to verify the integrity of files via Steam?

[thorn kiln]

yh

[polar yacht]

Ok

Then delete bin

And verify it

It will reset the config for hammer

[polar yacht]

@thorn kiln did it work?

[thorn kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/солдаты-неудачи-дебил-джек-трейлер-бен-стиллер-слабоумие-gif-5945777314258034739

ts me

[thorn kiln]

im bored, wanna watch me scenebuild?

[polar yacht]

nah im good

[thorn kiln]

pls dawg

im bored as shit

and i want someone 2 watch me build

[polar yacht]

k

[thorn kiln]

is that a yes

[polar yacht]

yep

[lucid condor]

OSHA

[polar yacht]

hey guys

so

im working on anothe thing rn

delta particles source

https://streamable.com/9i9yke

https://streamable.com/y7lc2l

[polar yacht]

it will be my first sdk 2013 mod

[thorn kiln]

i went camping and forgot to do the thing, i also made 2 albums when i got home, sorry for the wait but i can get to it when i get back from going north

[thorn kiln]

looks good

[polar yacht]

np

[polar yacht]

thanks!

[haughty cedar]

I’ve been absent quite a bit

How’s it going?

[polar yacht]

Project Pioneer was paused again

But im working now in Delta Particles Source

An entire new mod in sdk 2013

[willow lantern]

this looks like a great mod! i think for some of the species in xen that are wiped out later, you could have something like the shock roach or spore cannon, that is either a creature that Breen adapts into a weapon or a weapon that is obtained through killing something else.

also do you think Breen will be voiced or silent? if he is voiced you could add a lot of lines that make the player like him, similar to entropy: zero. If not, you could do similar things with scientists talking to him before he goes to xen, developing his personality through people comments from others. An example of this could be a scientist commenting on Breen's uniform, complementing it or saying it looks rushed. Either way, I think this will be a very good mod.

[willow lantern]

this is a pretty good idea, maybe show how it adapted to the forest area with greener skin and slightly smaller body, possibly something like a fast headcrab with a more agile build. depending on how dense the forest is, you could make the similarities between the gonarch and fast headcrabs more noticeable. I think it would be interesting to see how different creatures adapt to these different biomes, such as bullsquids in a more mountained area having stonger legs with sharper claws, maybe being able to latch onto walls with their mouths to climb cliffs to suprise any prey it may have detected.

[willow lantern]

if you need some, i might be able to help.

[willow lantern]

maybe only do this if you want it to take a really long time to make

[polar yacht]

I paused the production because it was a bit too ambitious for black mesa yk

[willow lantern]

the thing with these guns is, you need a reason for them to exist. it is shown in alyx that there were humanoid combine forces prior to the invasion of earth, but it is very likely that their weapons would not be compatible with humans. you could add these enemies to your game (it would require a lot of guessing about what they looked like, what they sounded like, etc.) then add the guns based on them, but you could also have a prototype weapon from black mesa in a section where breen somehow returns to earth for a short time (this might be impossible as it would be hard to implement into the story) or scientists on earth teleporting it to you accidentally. You definitely cannot have CP or other human combine forces in your game, but you could make something similar to an alien grunt but a synth, with large but still usable guns. Another cool gun could be a strider cannon mounted somewhere that you can use against a very large boss or just a dead strider that you can use the cannon of like in entropy zero

[willow lantern]

permanently or will you continue in the future?

[polar yacht]

After delta Particles collapse 4 i will try to continue it

[willow lantern]

ok, if you need help with it in the future, all i can do is provide ideas at the moment, as i have no clue how to make a game.

i do have a friend who has made games before and may be willing to help you if you continue again.

[polar yacht]

Oh thats cool!

Thanks

[willow lantern]

np

[polar yacht]

Your friend is like

A programmer?

A modeler

[willow lantern]

he used to make games, im not sure if he has recently, but he does have some skill

he has a yt channel tho

i think its GamrCheese

currently he is working on turning his most popular video, marqueese show, into a series and i can see some of his skills could be used in a video game

[polar yacht]

Lemme search it

Him? https://youtube.com/@gamrcheese?si=X3kCXUQ8FzDK_6ai

[willow lantern]

thats him

[polar yacht]

Oh thats cool

[willow lantern]

his vids arent the highest quality, but he is working on improving his skill. i could ask him if hes willing to help model if you ever continue

[polar yacht]

ok, if i continue ill contact him

Thanks for comenting here on the fórum!

And giving some ideas

Ill note it

I always note my ideas

[willow lantern]

np, ill send his discord name

[polar yacht]

k

[willow lantern]

ill send in dms cus he would prolly be mad if i shared it in a public server

[polar yacht]

oke

[sick pilot]

that is me

[willow lantern]

it is him

[haughty cedar]

oh dear

https://medal.tv/games/black-mesa/clips/kCLCHXLutMAn4KY9X?invite=cr-MSxHVzYsMjU2NzI4OTMz

serverblight bm

[thorn kiln]

oh shit

i am so sorry bro

i deadass forgot to do the concept

[polar yacht]

No problem bro

Project Pioneer is closed for now

Im working on Delta Particles Source

[thorn kiln]

aight

remind me to turn this in to freeman tmrw

[polar yacht]

Sup guys!

long time no see

delta particles source is currently making a lot of progress

and our current team agreed on reviving project pioneer after we finish delta particles source!

we are a team of 10 people currently

we got a profile at lambda gen

and a mod db page

https://community.lambdageneration.com/user/thedeltacollective

https://www.moddb.com/mods/delta-particles-source

[lucid condor]

Ima put this mod on my watchlist

because it looks interesting

[haughty cedar]

Let’s go!

[lucid condor]

Its gonna be