is-station

[earnest shuttle]

I tried mon3tr start recently and the she beat kaz fall easily, but die at dense jungle

[sly harness]

Can't you like "boat jump" flower

[earnest shuttle]

you can but top path need a ranged operator to kill them

[sly harness]

like M3 with skill 3 and feed the flower on U tile

although you would need to calculate the skill cycle

[slate hull]

and don't forget to replace the rock after skill ends

I messed up a stupid number of times because of it when I started using m3

[sly harness]

Just pause the game every few frames and think

Very principled

[earnest shuttle]

[earnest shuttle]

this is doable on nm and 1st version of em
but the 2nd em gonna need a highground dps

(nvm both 2nd version are placed like this)

[devout veldt]

for radians second module mission do you need her in the final fight in ed4 or just to get her at some point in the run?

[earnest shuttle]

u just need to beat ed4
no need to have her in there, although it wouldnt hurt to bring her

[sly harness]

What are you even drafting with her? And what squad are you playing

[faint rampart]

it triggers with civs or i actually just leaked

[sly harness]

[errant siren]

That's funny.

[faint rampart]

i wasnt paying attention to the run :sadge:

[rich thorn]

[slate hull]

oh snap, operator hindsight dropped

[rich thorn]

(first one is obv, but relicless record is fun)

oh yes, its because nasti used for s2 sp refill

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

[rich thorn]

[faint rampart]

thanks for making me look up what catherine does

[rich thorn]

fatedless actually could use that too

if no trag hand for sp or other sp regen buffs

[rich thorn]

next will be rose salt discovery

[sly harness]

(I hope this doesn't ping him)

[rich thorn]

it shouldnt

[faint rampart]

why is lukas showing up as potentially spam mess—

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

dont say me lukas

what i should s2m3 nasti

😭

[sly harness]

Of course you should

Her main skill

[rich thorn]

damn

im gonna do that

and put her as supp op

[sly harness]

I guess then even S1 can be more useful then S3 in IS

Who needs some goober range tile

[rich thorn]

hey, goober tile sometimes good

in is6 at least

when tile got that juicy sp regen relic buff

or idk, relics like burdenbeast

what working near blue box

nasti problem what she is a fucking supporter

where tragodia and raidian exists

[faint rampart]

class squads are making me feel like a degenerate in is4🚪

[rich thorn]

try scientific

get cringe from not getting scout cuz low vision f2

or die from total greed on verticals

during eating sweet collaps8

[faint rampart]

its the f3 draft compared to eh

[faint rampart]

if only there was a plan node where i can get my scout fold😔

[rich thorn]

and you know

need to get before f4 happens

🥹

😭

[faint rampart]

oh thanks for reminding me

Almost killed my run

[paper notch]

naaaaaaa why does he unironically have the regular army record on here bro

😭

[rich thorn]

like already said, she fills sp for tragodia

so he uses s3 more often

[paper notch]

i know what she does brother

why is that a thing even worth mentioning

[rich thorn]

dont ask me, ask relicless players

[sly harness]

Trag Hand without Trag Hand

[rich thorn]

we know, its just why even mentioning relicless as something worth mentioning

thats shileds question

[paper notch]

it's more, why is this appearance of nasti worth mentioning

like if she was already drafted in is5 i could maybe understand

maybe she is?

surely

it's like showing the pros for raidian is6 beta mod and listing fengshui solo

[inland elbow]

it's a pretty notable record mainly because the map is infamous

[sly harness]

Why not. Relicless IS is as interesting as any niche

[inland elbow]

that would be its only pro

[rich thorn]

isnt elusive worse?

as more worth to mention

[paper notch]

man

[inland elbow]

yeah elusive is pretty infamous too

it's why exu hoshi combo got omega shilled

[crimson grove]

.

[rich thorn]

unironically, the more I think, the more I realize what mine hate toward IS3 is mainly because hope, some light bullshit and encounter tied endings, not maps or bosses themself 🥀

[sly harness]

What about Hope

[rich thorn]

Im fine with not relicslop, fine with maps and rng on metastasis, but not hope cost on 3*

[sly harness]

Bro but 3* are mostly useless anyway

[rich thorn]

sorry, I dont like when mode blocks me from kroos picking

[sly harness]

And sacrificing 1 Hope for like Spot that does something isn't bad

[rich thorn]

🥹

and not utilized enlightment system, but we talked about it, meh buffs

calls are ok

[rich thorn]

somehow im ok with +1 on 5 and 6*

but not fukin 3*

[gaunt bay]

Yeah cuz its a percentage wise thing

Going from 6 to 7 is a 16% increase

0 to 1 is like infinitely more

[rich thorn]

(also, people squad as meta is not so healthy)

totally understandable, but not healthy

[carmine token]

✅

[carmine token]

1 hope is too much, too many times there is time when im 1 hope short,playing other ises

[faint rampart]

couldn't freeze my way thru rip

[sly harness]

IS4 🥀

[rich thorn]

surely, you will return

when d18 come

[faint rampart]

1 run for the reed skin

back to the mines now

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wait-waiting-cat-wait-waiting-cat-waiting-gif-9780709586447195996

[sly harness]

You mean the ocean?

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/seaborn-arknights-stultivera-navis-the-golden-age-the-golden-age-will-return-again-gif-6757408708569916684

[carmine token]

my goat is still got trust...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134535015888330846/1479563592972894229/alyrj2.gif

[sly harness]

This soundtrack is so good

[desert brook]

the golden age will return again

[music]

[faint rampart]

some random pvp shi—
yes ofc is3

[rich thorn]

no

you should go into stronghold

and play peak gamemode

🚬

[faint rampart]

altho no SA2 will hurt my experience 😔
hes my frd dream

[faint rampart]

who?

[rich thorn]

take friends one

[faint rampart]

sa2 start

[rich thorn]

yes

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[rich thorn]

if mantra start exists

why not sa2 start

into exu2 draft

[faint rampart]

considering im encounter maxing so not much of fights which would explode his ass

[sly harness]

I need to finish it too

[desert brook]

are these stage variants random?

[sly harness]

2 variants 50/50

[desert brook]

i see

[ornate wave]

Are there 5★s that'd be useful in comfy clearing is2-is5

[faint rampart]

https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/

~~if you just want rewards then not really worth it ~~

[sly harness]

https://is-central.github.io/is3-mizuki/operator-overview/

https://is-central.github.io/is4-expeditioners/operator-overview/

[ornate wave]

I guess I'll 4★it if the 5★s are expensive

[rich thorn]

also, they a lil bit old

cuz we all know what exu2 is best starting draft

[ornate wave]

I don't have exu2

[rich thorn]

take friends one

she good as e1 anyways

[ornate wave]

Just lemuen Haruka hoshialt pramalt and saalt

[ornate wave]

Ill do that yea

[desert brook]

does she do anything

[woven wagon]

Not unless you’ve been getting 0 medic vouchers

[sly harness]

Isn't she like Yan?

[desert brook]

true.........

im playing is2

[faint rampart]

@/cynik pls enlighten

[desert brook]

how do you solve this map

same with EM version

i just got out of EM and leaked 10

hold up

nvm this sp cost is garbage

[sly harness]

Kill enemies before they kill you

Like a defender + medic should tank hits 1 at a time

Or use some cc (like even Orchid) to slow them down

[desert brook]

on EM everyone got oneshot but uhh, probably because i have brokenblade

[faint rampart]

-tsun zoo

[sly harness]

When playing with Archetto she was usually killing them before they were able to reach the blue box and M3 was tanking them

[desert brook]

yeah because m3 has 7k hp

man my draft is turboshit

idk what i was thinking

[sly harness]

Trag would cook this stage

[slate hull]

if fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight

[desert brook]

i got ursus chachek

its over

yeah idk how to play this mode without cheeto comp bruh

sentenced to d7 for farming

[sly harness]

Idk Cheeto most likely isn't optimal anyway

Goober op

Just draft Exu2, Trag

[rich thorn]

tragodia release was a mistake

game will never be the same

[sly harness]

[desert brook]

yeah but its the only comp im confortable using

i dont have trag and i rarely use exu

[sly harness]

So why not play it (like in my very limited time in d15 IS2 I played basically only Cheeto comp because I found it fun)

[rich thorn]

also, as we see, trag was a peak of broken in terms of mechanics and power

after that HG fell off

🚬

[sly harness]

But we have Chen3 and Wang

[rich thorn]

thats not the same

wang is just

slap tons of dmg and res ignore

[desert brook]

because i tried to go out of my comfort zone and use other ops (catastrophic mistake)

[sly harness]

Have you seen the relicless EM wfu

Chen3 is insane

[rich thorn]

and say fuck it again on subclass trait

chen3 is fun, but sorry, you cant call her broken in terms of mechanics

of fucking cat lure and cages

[long tundra]

<@&586570970345635868>

[iron orchid]

guh

[severe oasis]

OMG mr beast

[sly harness]

I can pull up the RA cc spreadsheet

[rich thorn]

like fokin relics what working on cages

WITH buffing their hp

[sly harness]

They still have a time limit

[faint rampart]

and so kamael shall restrict himself to using ops upto trag only for future non relic slop ISes

[long tundra]

(In #strategy too.)

[rich thorn]

lie

im not playing banlist

im too lazy for that

[faint rampart]

🥀

[slate hull]

I'm still waiting for an operator who can build a hole on the map, that is going to be the next big meta

[rich thorn]

thats the other people choice, to limit themself and get fun in that way

[faint rampart]

burying kjerag sisters in that hole

[rich thorn]

bbbut that make weedy and ange even more meta

in IS

but hey

possible

we got nasti with high ground platform

why not op what can dig a hole

[slate hull]

maybe not an actual hole, but a damage over time trap in the form of a hole, it would be fun

[long tundra]

-# Or turn a high-ground tile into a low-ground tile.

[rich thorn]

thats not so useful

[slate hull]

you could break enemy pathing so hard with that

[rich thorn]

you cant

same as why nasti tile not breaks pathing

[sly harness]

I need a 6* skyranger who will be completely insane

[desert brook]

leizi2 but high ground

[rich thorn]

hole tho....

ye, stupid idea

[sly harness]

Leizi but can deal damage while in the air

[long tundra]

Create better paths to existing holes.

[rich thorn]

just place hole before blue box

and go nap

[fading wind]

If i rob cannot does the amount invested stays the same even if i withdrawal a good amount

[rich thorn]

we both know, its not possible with high into low

cuz path is already coded

[desert brook]

flying enemy jumpscare

[long tundra]

I mean with pushers/pullers.

[rich thorn]

eh, they usually already could be deployed on any ground

and we already have bugs like with mizuki

[desert brook]

yeah but enemies get blocked by high tiles

so if you can turn high tile into low tile then you can push enemies through new paths

[rich thorn]

true, my bad

[long tundra]

Not what I mean.

More that you remove walls so that pushers/pullers can shift enemies through areas they couldn't before. Not that it would be very useful in most cases but could be funny.

[long tundra]

Yeah.

[rich thorn]

buuuut

yu s2 exists

[long tundra]

True.

[rich thorn]

just have not separated line

[desert brook]

if hg does make this op i hope they can break as many tiles as they want, so you can demolish maps for fun

[rich thorn]

high into low is even worse niche than low into high

[desert brook]

i could see it as an event mechanic tho

[long tundra]

If it was a separate event would be pretty fun, yeah.

[rich thorn]

no, i want to dig a hole

so i can put even more is bosses into square hole

like amiya or chongue

[desert brook]

dig a hole
sui stomps
dies

[long tundra]

(Imagine though if Nasti's tile was anything like the outpost combinations from Rebuilding Mandate.)

[sly harness]

https://youtu.be/yTHijQ6NhJg?is=T4v8rk0V3_LSO86c

[rich thorn]

[sly harness]

This isn't a correct way to approach this very fun stage

[desert brook]

i gotta try doing this map the correct way sometime, i usually nuke the statues too early

[rich thorn]

comment him

[untold hearth]

Managed to get to floor 5 for the first time before dying

[rich thorn]

i just must say

why the hell supah was mentioned 2 times

[faint rampart]

gay gay homosex—

[late island]

type shit

[desert brook]

shit

[severe oasis]

omg mr beast

[inland elbow]

<@&586570970345635868> robux

[gaunt bay]

Mr breast

[gaunt bay]

Meow

[long tundra]

Just to make sure I'm not seeing things, does Hand of Buckler activate on the DoT from Gnosis' IS Module?

[flint token]

Yes which is why he’s so strong

[long tundra]

[quick steppe]

WE are all playing tacfort gnosis its true

[gaunt bay]

🫃

[steel relic]

frauds

[remote badger]

mmmm

[raw jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099414735193129030/1436236987592871936/IMG_6136.gif

[gaunt bay]

Eow

[remote badger]

mreow

[lethal valve]

hello, is there any place to check on what gets released on expansion 2?

[brazen bane]

CN wiki

[open girder]

4 collectibles left 🔥

[kind ruin]

can i get the 2nd amiya encounter on this one ?

[lethal valve]

deadge

[hallow vale]

Does surfer need full pot for d18 t3 egg amiya?

[quick steppe]

it would be nice

[remote badger]

would've been nice

[hallow vale]

Aight

[errant siren]

Yes, but it's not guaranteed

Yet you still have chance for End5.

[ember hemlock]

never taking emergency unlit sparks again wtf was that

[brazen bane]

[remote badger]

its pretty normal

if ur fine with leaking

[brazen bane]

normal hit count check / reveal check stage

[ember hemlock]

nahh bro the enemies were moving at like 5x speed
and no I did not have the risk tongbao that increases enemy movement speed

those mfs were RUNNING for the blue box

and they were all super tanky

raidian s3 with 5 drones could barely kill a single talisman guy before he got to the blue box

[buoyant beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrv-raiden-punching-armstrong-gif-24576818

[ember hemlock]

LITERALLY BRO

even the little dog guys took like 3-5 hits

[severe perch]

if i borrow someone's raidian in is6, it'll uses borrowed proficiency or my raidian?

i borrowed someone's maxed raidian and the fishies still uses deployment unit

[errant siren]

No, it will take yours instead.

[errant siren]

[severe perch]

[ember hemlock]

"let me solo them"

[desert brook]

i love this map

just deploy dps and watch them wreck shit

[ember hemlock]

do I recruit mutsumi or ascalon

[buoyant beacon]

Thornstar

[ember hemlock]

he's e0 lv1

ok mutsumi it is

[flint token]

Do you not have anything better

[kind ruin]

lets go!

[faint rampart]

congrats

[ember hemlock]

I have uhh
uhh
weedy and umiri
otherwise robin and almond

wow epic finish

[open girder]

4 collectibles left and I'm starting to question my sanity

[faint rampart]

ure playing is2
should've questioned it way earlier

[open girder]

Tbf I'm having a lot of fun, it's just that getting those insanely low chance collectibles is kinda cruel

[rough thorn]

finally got izumik , that thing is a menace

[ember hemlock]

temp irene recruit

[earnest shuttle]

Hummus and deepcolor
anyway this is just a joke draft obviously mon3tr isnt a good start, I tried this only because I dont have mon3tr

[severe perch]

cannot can only be rob once per run?

[earnest shuttle]

yes

after that he just disappear from any shop node u go in

[severe perch]

oki

[buoyant beacon]

What's the point of getting ingot if you can just rob him every shop or every floor lmao

[errant siren]

Chalice buff

[faint rampart]

1 extra fight every floor

https://tenor.com/view/drooling-emoji-meme-fire-awesome-sauce-woah-gif-14300919575076860590

[brazen bane]

Robbing Ji when

[ember hemlock]

wauw

wait what is this

[flint token]

Easy boss they says

(There’s a billion killgate in that stage just stall one and kill boss first before dealing with anything else

[severe perch]

how tf talisman didnt lose u a LP but makes u lose at face off

[errant siren]

End2 Alter.

[ember hemlock]

yeah no it was not happening

no clue how you're supposed to stall anything with the roster I had lmao

[faint rampart]

hitcount

[desert brook]

how many spear guys are in this map btw

[errant siren]

tomimi.dev

[ember hemlock]

bro said hitcount like I had hitcount that isn't hoshi alt s2 and raidian s2

[desert brook]

thx

[faint rampart]

raidian should be on s1 for stall...

[ember hemlock]

stalling what

[faint rampart]

.

[ember hemlock]

yeah stall what

one what

[cursive verge]

I heard we got zinogre feet vids

[ember hemlock]

in this economy?

[cursive verge]

Sth sth monhun collab 2 teaser

[faint rampart]

【【异格2结局】少核少藏攻略 电弧1技能这么强？-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/FU0CcQa

[ember hemlock]

so "killgate" refers to an enemy that triggers another wave/phase and not a location where you're supposed to kill enemies

and you want to stall one of the little shitnuggets to stop the next wave from triggering

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/833668694131212299.png?size=48

[ember hemlock]

when I read that message I thought they just meant to slaughter everything as fast as you can because they're all funneled through the back or middle

then stall for a bit while killing boss

anyway never doing that again

[desert brook]

huh

youre supposed to stall the waves and beat up sui so the next wave is easier?

[ember hemlock]

yea apparently

that way you stop getting stepped on and stomped with the gigantic splash radius

[desert brook]

doing anything on the right side of the map is really annoying with the foot around cuz theres barely any space to put ground ops if you need high ground ones

might try a stall

[ember hemlock]

yea
I was baiting left bottom due to foot targeting but the stomps would still hit that tile

[desert brook]

tho theres only 8 spear enemies so it might not be hard just to :resource:

[ember hemlock]

ya could probably just leak em
atp I know any stage someone calls easy is a guaranteed fail for me
and any stage someone calls hard is easier than I think it is

[zealous bluff]

heeelp

[ember hemlock]

just pick the one that's gonna be most useful to your run
flask gives u 2 hope so it's pretty good usually
plus it reveals a bunch of nodes in bosky

[zealous bluff]

Oh okay

[ember hemlock]

lol real

[desert brook]

trolled

[cursive verge]

For a sec I thought irene's IS mod is out upon seeing irene draft

[foggy oriole]

anyone got a video of shu teleport strats in senti

I completely forgot how to do this damn stage

[split void]

If you have 1 flower 6 balance 3 risk. Risk coin rate is slightly higher than balance
7 balance 3 risk is the brake point where you should chose balance

[sonic sable]

https://youtu.be/ECnDyld8ckE?si=DKGFdpYQzFaQujhk

@inland elbow bait shoutout

[cursive verge]

The era of bait

'Moshi moshi bait1728 desuwa' is about to get real

[ember hemlock]

it said unlockable after promotion
like it showed the IS mod

[vestal relic]

This 2 is the goat

[solar falcon]

how much pull strength do you need to separate the pink kings in IS5 ED2, assuming no weightless or -weight relics?

[cursive verge]

Sl7 feater is enough is enough if yoh place her on the +force tile

Whatevwr push strength that turns out to be is your answer

[rich thorn]

• looks inside
• only 2 out of 5 are pretty active

[ember hemlock]

hitcount who

[rich thorn]

my man forgot pard

🥀

@sly harness pretty sus what like in a day 2 arktubers released mount and sea video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNhiDamAGc4

[faint rampart]

being in the same list as them...

might be cooked

[rich thorn]

so, placing sciel and storn (IS posters) in same line with Kyo (CN general poster) and supah (now its more like lets just talk about arknights global) is 👌 , but somehow pard is not

[faint rampart]

yeah

[minor agate]

are 3 stars just not viable in IS4?

[faint rampart]

i would still watch all the people here but not that guy 🫡

[faint rampart]

wha

[hearty plaza]

you have to draft them

[minor agate]

No I mean are they too squishy/weak

[hearty plaza]

They are fine for early floors

[rich thorn]

they exists, but you like dont have other choices at 0 hope

[hearty plaza]

After f3 it's pretty sus

[minor agate]

dang, that's gonna take some adjusting

[rich thorn]

and healers still working

also, they could be used as SA2 s2 bodies

[hearty plaza]

At some point i will just draft robots instead

[rich thorn]

robots are good for is3

but dang, not work well for redeploy spam

[zealous bluff]

it was 1/8/1 💔💔💔

[split void]

That Sometime happened

[sly harness]

Ye in IS3 if you play SA alter prioritize drafting reserve ops and 2* (unless you really badly need the 1* to cure stuff)

And Confess is still a good drag

[rich thorn]

and then just highroll

[minor agate]

that relic is wild

[solar falcon]

wish that was what that hand did in IS5

IS5 version of that hand is awful

[buoyant beacon]

Hope +1 on D6 behavior man smh
I know, have been there lmao

[patent harness]

67

[strong kestrel]

Haruka is CRACKED in is, jeez! Dont even need to promote her

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1502975841259225088/lv_0_20260510172746.gif

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

Kroos damage matters

[earnest shuttle]

I turned off exu skill too early

[sly harness]

Still you should survive this with like - 2-4

[earnest shuttle]

the rest is just fumble

[gaunt bay]

yeah, about what I expected from that pfp

[sly harness]

On this EM without smoothing extra you should ignore the Chests

The same goes for EM Symbiosis

These matchups are very close with just the base starting squad

[faint rampart]

what if survivor cont—

https://tenor.com/view/nileseyy-niles-peace-out-disappear-meme-disappearing-guy-checking-out-gif-25558985

icant

[grizzled nexus]

Hmmm... Wonder which one is better?

[cursive verge]

Show vigil some love

[foggy oriole]

what's the d15 opener usually

if you're picking guard medic supporter, then it's raidian and purestream and then.. what?

utage?

[errant siren]

Wildscoot, if context is IS6.

[foggy oriole]

huh

[errant siren]

Because he's Yan.

As par you can take Luo Xiao

For same reasons.

[foggy oriole]

oooooh

what why tf does xiaohei count as yan

😭

[errant siren]

Idk lmao

But he does

[brazen bane]

he literally comes from a chinese animation series

[foggy oriole]

yes but

china isn't yan

[grizzled nexus]

But he arrived then live with Lee Detective Agency in Lungmen. So, well there you go.

[foggy oriole]

also wdym by par

[errant siren]

Alternatively

[foggy oriole]

for xiaohei I assume you use the aoe range change skill right

[brazen bane]

you guys actually use him?

[foggy oriole]

I mean

I don't

but if I am to use him

gotta keep my options open you know

the last time I meaningfuly used xiaohei was to plonk him in the middle of 1-7

[final gale]

if u can't decide, use both

although s2 is the way to go mostly

s1 is when im lazy do i just toggle his skill to do his... thing

[grizzled nexus]

Luo Xiaohei is quite a good starter. I have him at E2 and M3 S2. The only place he is got beaten up in F1 is Emergency 'To The Market', 'Veteran Actor', and Bear Encounter.

Though there is indeed a better 4* starter. But I choose him cause of his Yan affiliation for Doubt Node.
I mean Windscoot is okay guard, but he have 0 block some of the time that make it a bit hard and need timing mastery in some stage.

[foggy oriole]

I feel like windscoot is stronger if you know what you're doing

but either way you should probably be relying on other ops

[cursive verge]

Raidian is your main carry eith that start yes

[foggy oriole]

I still need to get used to the fact that he can't hit air like mlynar and leizi lmao

also with surfer

if I have initial sp for instant s2

it's better to s2 right

bro what kind of fuck ass layout is this
where is my shop???

is shop guaranteed to be in the surrounding 8 tiles

[gaunt bay]

why not

??

[sly harness]

Windscoot is the optimal choice. They take all Statuegeists and clear everything relicless and leakless (aside form EM Bear stage)

[minor kraken]

[sly harness]

No

[sly harness]

1. You have 3x3 or 3x2 block count because you start with Raidian so the 0 block isn't relevant
2. There is a playlist for them

[cursive verge]

Why do ppl find 0 block a problem

[rich thorn]

better than +1/+2 block on ambushers

[foggy oriole]

how do you even cycle stuff for the ed2 d14 modifier

the increased redeploy is so ass

[sly harness]

Raidian summons

Or you can retreat stuff right before the boss attack to avoid the redeployment penalty

When his SP bar becomes empty you have like a fram or few to do so without switching the boss target

It is easy to do even on mobile because you can retreat stuff when the game is paused

[floral plaza]

the biggest issue i found about ed2 at high D is the global damage from slapping the ground

i actually forgot about the redeploy shit mid way in the run

[foggy oriole]

that too

[carmine plover]

is lutonada worth e2 as a low hope lane holder?

[foggy oriole]

too expensive

[paper notch]

not generally worth running

[carmine plover]

so are there any good 4 stars lane holder? apart from jaye

[sly harness]

Hummus is good on f1-f2

[carmine plover]

ty

[faint rampart]

available for 6&5 too

lukas didn't send it in single message:reallyMad:

[carmine plover]

ty

[paper notch]

not in a quickly digestible format

smh

[faint rampart]

21 lp no megamus

i can feel dlc2 struggle maybe

[rich thorn]

dlc2 have good coins too

and you anyway not gonna spend that much coupons at d18

[faint rampart]

📝

fishing for specific coins tho...

[grizzled nexus]

+4 DP from Acute Ssu-Nung Hour.
+3 From Blademace relic.
+3 DP from Sui's Flower Relic.
+5 DP from Bal-Heavy Armor tongbao.
+3 DP (Melee Operators only) from Plucked Flower relic.

Hmmm... we can increase operators DP cost by +15 to +18 if the stars are aligned

[rich thorn]

your biggest problem will be fishing for bosky coin instead

for better ed5 pathing

[faint rampart]

its rare tier iirc(?)

[rich thorn]

yes, but did you saw pool of it?

[sly harness]

But in dlc2 you can abuse the vertical travel coin with all the Coupons from Megamus

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/pepelaugh-tea-sipping-sip-hatecult-gif-21051294

[rich thorn]

you can do that now too

just

find coins

[sly harness]

Easier to get then Cocoon

[rich thorn]

idk

[faint rampart]

only spending my ingots on coins vouchers and candles atp

[rich thorn]

+12 in rare
+12 in super rare

[faint rampart]

😔

[rich thorn]

and one can just say you

nuh uh

cant trade me anymore

[faint rampart]

schizoed my sentence 😵‍💫

[remote badger]

[faint rampart]

messing up risk toss when 4/10 on tourist
*11

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-gif-16827497663049161731

[crimson grove]

The Historical Reconstruction stat benefits in IS5, are they additive to bonuses gained from collectibles or multiplicative (act like the ops' base stats)?

[hollow parcel]

ugh i fucking hate Wang's special stage

[errant siren]

Multiplicative.

So buffs original ops stats.

[crimson grove]

Appreciate it

[remote badger]

clueless

[sly harness]

Depends

[hollow parcel]

nvm i passed it

[sly harness]

This isn't correct

[crimson grove]

Then correct it

[sly harness]

But the interlan/external (or also called unconditional/conditional) shit is hard to generally explain

You need to remember which is which in some cases it will be obvious in other not so much

And I don't think there is any list of collectibles/other stats buffs that would clearly put them into those two groups

[remote badger]

yostar wordings ✨

[crimson grove]

IC

[errant siren]

[sly harness]

I mean the used

multiplicative (act like the ops' base stats)
And you said
Multiplicative.
So idk I felt that it wasn't correct
...

Also this shit is so ass to explain

(maybe someone is bored enough to write a detailed explanation of this and tag all the stas buff/debuff effects with those categories)

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

got cocoon but no ed2

[sly harness]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

No ed2

[faint rampart]

And psure no combats left

[sly harness]

Not optimal pathing

[faint rampart]

😢

wasted coupons in rerolling shop for bosky coin

also wasted candles for recruitment and missed all bosky animals

🏳️ dead run

[patent harness]

is it worth to gamble in leisure nodes at all

[crystal niche]

gamba

and prob lose the run

[sly harness]

If we are talking about IS6 mainly near the end of the run if you have a lot of resources and nothing better to do with them

[crystal niche]

are there any gamebreaking new coins

dlc2

[remote badger]

no

if u smh fall into ling's

gl

[raw jewel]

zuo le's

he gives you 100 atk but lose 1 lifepoint via a certain condition

idk but it could stack up to 1000 atk

[crystal niche]

[foggy oriole]

when wangsadel I'm bored

I need his balls

[crystal niche]

just go to cn

[foggy oriole]

wait hold on

[raw jewel]

his banner alr gone by

[foggy oriole]

does wang balls count towards the op count for the sui foot

[raw jewel]

no

it's trap

just like dorothy's

[foggy oriole]

ah ok thank god

lol

[crystal niche]

but trap can be buffed by summon relics?

[raw jewel]

uh

no?

[crystal niche]

wha

[raw jewel]

idk if the traps use its own attack stat to deal damage to enemies

or base off the operator's atk stat

[foggy oriole]

I can't wait to d15 wang vs wang

😭

[crystal niche]

dalao!

[raw jewel]

if it's base off operators atk

yeah no summon collectibles won't affect them

except for

those that reduces dp cost of "summons"

[sly harness]

They can be buffed but it does nothing because they use ops stats

Like if you click on them you will see buffed stats (e.g. on Trag cat) but it doesn't matter because the damage dealt by it is based on operators ATK

[foggy oriole]

wait you mean that the trap stats actually change but the stats don't do anything

[sly harness]

Yes

[foggy oriole]

peak spaghetti coding

[faint rampart]

why cant we get SAslashes on summons

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[foggy oriole]

local man wants overpowered 4-arm lady to be even more overpowered

[brazen bane]

Summons have no human rights

[foggy oriole]

forget summons bro, in this game even humans only have human rights when it's convenient

<@&586570970345635868>

crypto scam again

[faint rampart]

walmart bag

[dry tusk]

what IS is the most boring to you gus

[hearty plaza]

Is2

[sly harness]

IS2, no actually IS4

[earnest shuttle]

someone finally said it

[ripe summit]

is2 is the normal flavor text edition

[buoyant beacon]

I don't even wanna start D15 #2 QoL is so ass

Do we get vertical step at all there?

Unless they MASSIVE update it the answer should be no, but we got dif slider so idk

[raw jewel]

Is2 no DMG upscale slop

[patent harness]

mods taking the free mr beast money for themselves smh

such corrupt

[crystal niche]

[raw jewel]

That's why they still work as a mod even tho the payment is ass

[hollow parcel]

oh oops wrong chat

[remote badger]

[buoyant beacon]

Wait u got paid?

[patent harness]

no i didnt

im unemployed

[open girder]

Only 4 left now

[hollow parcel]

left 4 dead

[gaunt bay]

Meow

[remote badger]

meow

[ripe summit]

How have you not gotten SP boosting

[buoyant beacon]

I think the last one I missed was Therapy Tape there lmao

[sly harness]

Me and my 10k nodes in IS3 without Pathfinder Fins

[buoyant beacon]

Cringe

[crystal niche]

[inland elbow]

Not a dice squad enjoyer smh

[sly harness]

Doesn't sound like a good idea in the current d18 environment

[inland elbow]

It's op trust

[sly harness]

And this point why not just mom

[remote badger]

stinky squad

[inland elbow]

Because mom does nothing bruh

Dice squad actually does a lot

[open girder]

idk, I'm almost calling YoStar and asking for explanations

[faint rampart]

everyone slanders mom😔

[strong kestrel]

Anyone use Nasti yet? Im curious if she breaks enough maps to be worth it as a 3rd or 4th supporter pick

[sly harness]

Her main usecase for now will probably be S2 and SP charging stuff like Tragodia S3. Rather completely niche stuff

[normal creek]

wanna ask, which module do i use on raidian?

[sly harness]

Alfa is much better. Beta is almost completely useless

[crystal niche]

eat fih

[remote badger]

niche pick actually

since everything is fine even without +1 ranged title

[sly harness]

We need to spread awareness that S2 is the real skill

[faint rampart]

we need to spread awareness about supp voucher prio

[sly harness]

also this has some decent r*gebait potential

[faint rampart]

bro trying to replace mei on reddit or smth

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-first-firstkp-firstkanaphan-kanaphan-gif-11509710829918739467

[crystal niche]

"wait isn't that the widely known skill"

[remote badger]

take it

[crystal niche]

[remote badger]

ascend

evolve

[open girder]

I wish we could sell or do something with the vouchers that we don't want to use

Feels like such a waste

[crystal niche]

a mere

ingot

[open girder]

Half an ingot would already be enough

[sly harness]

They are not completely useless in IS3, you use extra bodies to lower the chances of getting a debuff on your carries

Truly the best IS

[remote badger]

yato1 the best "fast redeploy"

[open girder]

Gravel + SA2

[open girder]

Like you helidrop someone to take the debuff and swap your main after?

[sly harness]

Btw to the few people who play IS3 with e1 Exu2 start.

1. There are some f2 EMs that are not solvable with just e1 Exu2 (e2 works fine). Should I add to the playlist some clears of them with the second 6* e1/e2 and e1 Exu2 or just e2 Exu2 clears.
2. What ops do you usually draft as your second/third 6* and which of the popular draft you don't use early. Need it as a reference to what I should use in the f3/f4 clears (for now I was mostly using Wis and SA).

[quick steppe]

all three is3 people responding to this

[sly harness]

1/2 of your operators can get a sami-permanent debuff when you enter a new floor, if your pool of recruited characters is bigger the chance of it landing on your main carry is lower.

[sly harness]

I am counting on all three of them for some feedback

[earnest shuttle]

1. I think u could add some details in th3 description like personal thought on the stage and perhaps the short explationation of what should be taken care of when starting the stage
2. I just go with wis/sa2/trag/hoshi2 if I find their voucher

[sly harness]

I won't draft Hoshi, not principled enough

[quick steppe]

gnosis

[earnest shuttle]

yea not a good draft tbh, I only bring her since other voucher get useless when I got the core ops and no robots

[open girder]

Ok, out of sheer curiosity, what degree of debuff are we talking about? Like an ok "-10% atk" or something really really bad

[quick steppe]

it’s pretty bad ngl

ranges from pretty chill(lose hp if not full) to pretty devastating(all stats halved)

and at d17 they mix two together

[open girder]

Is this a penalty for failing something?

[sly harness]

There are 4 main debuffs, in each run you will get one of the pool and then your ops will be inflicted with it through the run

[earnest shuttle]

lose hp if not full is like 2nd worst after stat halved imo
the frozen and self activate skill is okay

[sly harness]

Freez is worse than the HP

[severe oasis]

freeze is awful

[earnest shuttle]

I guess in urgent case frozen is worse

[faint rampart]

wtfart

[sly harness]

Yes but also you will be more likely to get them when going for alternative endings

[faint rampart]

shafting us new players with new ops😔

[open girder]

Well, I still have 4 collectibles to get before I jump into IS3. This could take 2 days or 2 weeks, who knows

[sly harness]

[crystal niche]

is6 scout or emergency? it's f2 and the scout won't go into bosky. the scout has normal fight and encounter while emerg has 2 encounters

[sly harness]

Scout is 2 Coupons

But Bosky is the priority

[faint rampart]

is it ed4 run or
cuz f3 scout is kinda cringe path

[crystal niche]

uh I'm just tryin out tianshi tbh

[faint rampart]

~~so by default i assume you're an ed1 spammer and atp it doesn't matter ~~

[crystal niche]

holy

9 balance coins

1 risk

and I got fuckin coin geist

[faint rampart]

lucky mf

[crystal niche]

LIKE WHY

[severe oasis]

remove coin geists

[crystal niche]

TF U MEAN LUCKY

😭

[faint rampart]

bro i failed my risk toss twice today on tourist

with 4 risk coins

no flask or fireworks

[crystal niche]

[earnest shuttle]

why gamble in is6 when u can gamble in worse version of it

[faint rampart]

i gotta treat myself with something after playing is4

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

IS3 . You can grind the f4-f5 encounters for the encounters spreadsheet

[faint rampart]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HJF70h8bkAA1EhP.webp

[open girder]

4 full runs and nothing...pls rngesus, bless me in this time of need

[azure dagger]

What are some priority recruits against IS3 ed2? Last knight has been a pain in the ass in A11

[long tundra]

I find Lemuen quite good against Last Knight (her S2 at M3 prevents her from being Frozen due to the charge time), also Kjerag operators if you have SilverAsh the Reignfrost.

[buoyant beacon]

What if we can dust 2 ops to get voucher of that class

[sly harness]

Tragodia and perma stall the guy

Generally you should think about finding a perma stall solutions for him

[remote badger]

stallers

[sly harness]

The damage comes second

[long tundra]

(Leizi S1 can also prevent him from destroying debris for a while.)

But yeah, Paralysis is more reliable.

[earnest shuttle]

should I take this

[buoyant beacon]

Can you just slow and Yu teleport loop his ass?

[long tundra]

Probably good for Exusiai, Frozen is a pain with her. SilverAsh won't need it.

[earnest shuttle]

yea but d18

[long tundra]

D18 even more so.

[sly harness]

Evolving stuff is better

It gives stas buff

[earnest shuttle]

cure for u official or just take money

[woeful knot]

dont take it, u need the hp

[earnest shuttle]

I have 0 light so it doesnt matter

[woeful knot]

u still need hp

[earnest shuttle]

High risk high rewards

[sly harness]

LP to shield stack

[long tundra]

Actually, does Fosterer Genotype prevent the operator from being Frozen if it can take effect immediately?

[earnest shuttle]

alright

[woeful knot]

tragodia nymph
slowers like ela asca

yato if you have metastatic on her

[woeful knot]

no he sucks

[sly harness]

If you evolve the operator it will get instantly unfrozen

[buoyant beacon]

Like yeah he suck ass but can you do it tho? Do Yu even teleport drones

[cursive verge]

One of the three here

1. Adding footnotes (pimmed comment) for this should suffice, as long as the general idea to clear the stage is interpreteble enough from the clear
2. Mlynar/Hoshi2 and thats kinda it I suppose I can add sa2 and pram2 asw, then again I have been slacking on is3 dont even have d5 unlocked hell idek how to play is3 optimally yet

[long tundra]

Only works on ground enemies.

[buoyant beacon]

Imagine turning yourself into a drone man

[sly harness]

Knight is ground even in p2

[azure dagger]

Really?

[crystal niche]

how to evolve

[sly harness]

Play on d16

[sly harness]

Yes he is just unblockable

[buoyant beacon]

Wha- huh?

Ohhh

Really? Did he just got my ass the whole time

But he's flying

Motherfucker

[long tundra]

Power of VFX.

[woeful knot]

yu still cant

just bring actual reasonable stallers

[sly harness]

Shu

[buoyant beacon]

Mostima

[remote badger]

hes unblockable smh

smh

[woeful knot]

the shu ce tech lost to time

[sly harness]

Some old stuff about IS3 ed2 by #mymaster

Locks:

Lee can completely afk lock it (with caveats like you need enough dp generation and certain aspd bonuses break the lock)

Cement with stainless s3 turrets can tank it

Metastatic/wavebreaker regular yato can infinitely stall it

Glory pack ebenholtz

Gnosis with freeze extension

Mr nothing (You don't need erato but you do need to micro and cancel his s2 to extend his attack animation for the first 50% hp)

Dorothy

Degenbrecher s2 with sp generation

[azure dagger]

Hmmm, I do have Trag but my other stall options are kinda limited, just Astegenne alter and Mizuki I Think? Thou Mizuki probably would get frozen like crazy

[buoyant beacon]

Oh cmon no need for red x 😭😩

[remote badger]

trag ur go

[sly harness]

Trag can solo stall him

[buoyant beacon]

Heh, of course

[woeful knot]

send him the FUK knight clear

[open finch]

Mr nothing s2 attack cancel with mod2

Those were simpler (shittier) times

[buoyant beacon]

rock you do high dif IS too? I tho u were tourist like me man

[woeful knot]

dont share the 3op we need the views

[open finch]

Broo I rmb that 5op

Vid had like 3 pixels

Actually dogshit quality

[remote badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1471901390891647079/1502733469908865035/togif.gif

omg kermy

[open finch]

[woeful knot]

:joyplush:

[azure dagger]

Fair enough, Trag is broken lol

[woeful knot]

istg no one watched that shit bro

[open finch]

I mean

Nobody watches relicless anyway

9op is5 2a with boat was done and literal crickets

[buoyant beacon]

Too complex monkey no understand

I get it tbh

[woeful knot]

is5 relicless known to be real and serious

😭 i didnt even hear anyone talk about it

[sly harness]

But IS3 is like a 4 year old content

[remote badger]

is4 relicless is peak

[sly harness]

Wang, Wang, Wang

[cursive verge]

What a wanger

[woeful knot]

and i dont wanna play is6 relicless

its a losing battle

[sly harness]

[woeful knot]

is4 everything is taken
is5 cannot be any more fake

[sly harness]

I wanna watch IS6 relicless

[open finch]

Instead of Ela wisadel everything now we have ch3n wang trag everything

Nothing has fking changed

gg bro

[cursive verge]

Is7 will be the change
Trust

[remote badger]

sleep time

[sly harness]

We will see in 5 months

[remote badger]

too much relicslop

[sly harness]

Or maybe 8

Idk, post dlc2

[open finch]

Have a pleasant, dry dream

Or whatever skadi says

[remote badger]

https://tenor.com/view/rals-bruhgette-koopa-gfl-girls-frontline-gif-21184875

[open finch]

I had a canon event happen today

[remote badger]

wat is dat

[open finch]

Spotify discover weekly recced an absolute banger so I check the artist

It's the same one that did somniomancer

So I'm like ya fair enough of course it's a banger

[remote badger]

crywolf

is it

[open finch]

Then I search up the song and it was used in an endfield trailer

Now I understand why Spotify recced it

[open finch]

Ya

[remote badger]

spotify is so slop 🥀

asking for money for every fucking reasons

[open finch]

Trueing

[remote badger]

infact almost anything is asking for money for every fucking reason to keep using

🥀

like big stuffs

[buoyant beacon]

mp.3 player with purchased music files anyone?

[open finch]

For the longest time I used an iPod nano for workouts

It was peak

[buoyant beacon]

Ikr

[crystal niche]

yo wtfart

this game just crashed

no blue screen or nothin

[buoyant beacon]

Bruh

[crystal niche]

mid fuckin fight too

[buoyant beacon]

Of course

What u doin there

[crystal niche]

wdym what was I doin

just normal things

[buoyant beacon]

U know, just to add the salt to the wound

[buoyant beacon]

I mean what were u doin there, #6 relicless or smth?

[crystal niche]

not relicless

just normal

[buoyant beacon]

I mean it hurt anywhere but

Yeah, damn

[crystal niche]

MY CANDLE

GIVE IT BACKKKK

[faint rampart]

be the change you want to see or something

is central calls you the best IS6 player
ik you can do it🫡

[sly harness]

I can be an en router at bast

• brain too small to plan clears
• I don't pause enough to execute clears

[long tundra]

Same for me, months without crashes and suddenly twice in a short period both during an IS run.

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

@/senz pass your knowledge to this child

[sly harness]

But i would need to play on pc for that

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[woeful knot]

erm

i have to get to d15 first

or d18 idk what dlc is is6 on rn

[faint rampart]

lock lukas in your room and soon your is6 will be d20 trust

[remote badger]

[rich thorn]

we dont need is6 d20

we need is4 d18

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

with guaranteed alter bosses

[crystal niche]

get an ed5 first

then 2345

[rich thorn]

nah, they not gonna add more endings

like, is2 and is3 didnt get em

[faint rampart]

more clears for wang trag sash gnosus to farm

[rich thorn]

the thing is

if d20 or d21 come

it will be even bigger stat bloat

[faint rampart]

oh no my spot is 5 hope

[rich thorn]

there was alot of complains already about d18 at is5

and flinger hand being best way to deal with em

imagine that in is6

cow will be 19m hp

fucker will be 50m at d21

[faint rampart]

i wasnt around so😴 complainers will be complainers wcyd

[rich thorn]

it wasnt here

it was more in cn side

with wis and hand

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/rinavrs-kittygirled-monkey-gif-25254723

just enjoy man idk

[rich thorn]

[faint rampart]

if it gets too slop you can always transition to vulpoknights cc

🚪

[rich thorn]

too late

tragodia exists

and wang will be next

[crystal niche]

just don't let them exist

don't the twinks

and homeless man

[earnest shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

(first time getting this far with mom squad)

[remote badger]

wfu

[kindred bronze]

punishment for playing mom

[sly harness]

A skill check (just perma freez the angry slug with SA)

[open girder]

Are all maps unique for each IS or do we have maps that appear on multiple ones?

[sly harness]

Usually all are unique (there is for example an exception in IS6 where one encounter can give you a map from older ISes)

[azure dagger]

Did it with Trag, SAlt and support unit Lemuen, the casters almost made me choke tho, they do so much damage holy

[remote badger]

pretty normal-

[sly harness]

Yep usually when you deal with first phase enemies and are perma stalling the knight alone you should rearrange your setup to prepare for the wave that will come with the second phase (especially for the casters)

[earnest shuttle]

[desert brook]

punished for playing mom

[earnest shuttle]

pompeii range is disgusting

[faint rampart]