is-station

[buoyant beacon]

Booo 030

HP loss hurt why would you do it

[earnest shuttle]

u can craft shield

[buoyant beacon]

I mean yeah for bazillion relics, but Booo

What penalty u get on overweight they added again?

[woven wagon]

Rescued the reserve op caster

[wet zealot]

Is SilverAsh Alter worth the draft ?

[rich thorn]

yes

[wet zealot]

I've been mostly following the Is central IS6 document and the doc hasn't been updated since then for meta drafts

And new units to add to this ?

[rich thorn]

pram2 is good at something

[woven wagon]

True

[rich thorn]

sa2 prob too, cuz he is close to ines

[buoyant beacon]

I wonder who even made that tier list

[wet zealot]

Idk it's just there 😭

[earnest shuttle]

+3dp
at d18 +3dp -20%atk -20%sp regen rate

[buoyant beacon]

Damn that's a lot

[earnest shuttle]

sash2

[remote badger]

why penance is there

[buoyant beacon]

Not enough to get ya all of the backbreaking strat anyway tho so, welp

[gaunt bay]

Penis is good

[remote badger]

wah

[woven wagon]

I must be blind because I don’t see her

[gaunt bay]

The kal rating is more concerning

[buoyant beacon]

Took me a good minute to find her too lmfao

Guess I'm partial blind

[gaunt bay]

Logos too kinda but w/e

[woven wagon]

Oh found her

[remote badger]

meanwhile me looking into ef's cc1 risks

[buoyant beacon]

Car'seat on her way to cosplay Ansel:

[broken imp]

free gnosis or e2 radiant?

idk if he still good

[buoyant beacon]

No Gnosis because bulli him goed

[crystal niche]

free gnussy is good but e2 raidian just carries so much

[gaunt bay]

Depends

Do you have bosky carry already

[buoyant beacon]

Assuming you mean Raidian and not Nearl the Radiant Knight

[gaunt bay]

Its radian its a supp voucher

[buoyant beacon]

Yeah UwU

[crystal niche]

imagine

[buoyant beacon]

Not me picking my wife on D15 and die at all

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

Cube but more than a tier list it is just a characters recommendation for the climb from d0 to d10

[wet zealot]

Little update, I managed to handle left side

But the boss survived with literally 1 HP and dealt 50 HP to me

😭

I missed the DPS check like an idiot 😭

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

D18 is truly combo of skill and operators check

[sly harness]

Every max diff. Although still if you have knowledge you can pass the operators check if you highroll enough

[cursive verge]

Simply be hakari

[pseudo burrow]

infinite gamble

[rich thorn]

At least is6 gives that opportunity

[crystal niche]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-jackpot-hSUgoG5fw0vmK4Jlu8

[rich thorn]

With tourists squad

[crystal niche]

smh some is can't be highrolled

[earnest shuttle]

but smaller relics pools so its not hard to randomly obtain at least 1 boss killer relic

[rich thorn]

And then you just gets either +hp or 3 free promos as f3 boss relic

[broken imp]

......

my reliec betrayed me

[crystal niche]

is it the dp relic

[broken imp]

if you mean the relic that deal damage based on dp cost

then yes

[crystal niche]

[desert brook]

lmao

me when im playing is3 sleeping seaborn stage and i deploy an op and it procs the aoe explosion on random enemy relic and i fucking die

[crystal niche]

[slate hull]

I remember getting absolutely destroyed on this stage because of the ice cube relic

[desert brook]

how do you kill the rat on this stage

[radiant burrow]

https://i.imgur.com/W1YxxxY.png

https://i.imgur.com/camc3fG.png

how do dream of curio and snack basket interact

[paper notch]

maybe mizuki + angelina?

[radiant burrow]

does it count everything as an auto skill

[desert brook]

oh yeah, if you pull the rat into a hole then it counts as a kill?

[paper notch]

i mean they would have died no?

[slate hull]

rat is dead, so rat is kill

[desert brook]

i see

[cursive verge]

Going by the wording, auto-skills keep their +100% sp recovery boost, so you would be spamming auto skills a lot I suppise

[sly harness]

Just get more damage. He has like 500k effective HP. Surely Saki can kill

[desert brook]

500k is a lot unless i wait to do this stage later

[sly harness]

*750k on f2

[cursive verge]

Lukas can you verify what I said

[desert brook]

ueaj i dont think saki can to 750k relicless

[sly harness]

It is IS6 just stack drums

Or get the -45% HP coin.

[desert brook]

yeah just get drum on f1

[desert brook]

true........

big fan

[sly harness]

As far as I know infinity basket (never probably checked it but that is why I heard multiple times)

[sly harness]

I had this coin there some time ago to with like x123

[desert brook]

yeah

do you guys just like play IS all day every day or smth

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

ye, something like this

[subtle moss]

when i was young yes

[desert brook]

crazy

[earnest shuttle]

where all the years go

[sly harness]

Now I have this one

[slate hull]

prts wiki has a note that translates to "The condition for losing the buff is activating a manually triggered skill, regardless of whether the skill was activated manually by the player", I am not sure infinite basket with curio is a thing

[sly harness]

Also like kinda weird, they don't seem that common

[desert brook]

i mean you can just try it surely, since you can see if dp regen is twice as fast or not

[rich thorn]

fell off, no bloodshed

[sly harness]

2 floors in a row without EM

[earnest shuttle]

this affecting is3 guide greatly

[sly harness]

[patent harness]

which one would be better? only defenders are the 3 star reserve guy and hoshi2

[sly harness]

the defender book for Hoshi will be very strong

[patent harness]

wdym defender book

[sly harness]

Iron Guard - Invasion

[patent harness]

okay

[patent harness]

what does the glowing thing beside gravel mean

[rich thorn]

she will be promoted, not recruited

but since you dont have e2 gravel on acc, she not gonna be changed

[errant siren]

If you have E2 on the normal game, she will be promoted to E2-Level where you did stopped.

Normally, the first time you recruit ops, they're initially restricted to E1-MaxLv (or Lv where did you stopped, like in that case).

If you waste voucher on Gravel now, nothing useful will happen.

Since you don't have E2 on her.

Use on someone else.

[rich thorn]

first time you choose operator, you recruit it, and its limited to E1 state (for 6* it means skill lvl7, no skill3, no modules, lvl80 max)
2nd time you choose that same operator, that mark glows, and your operator became same state as it is on account

so, e2, unlocks skill3, and shares same skill mastery and mod lvl as it is in account

ofk, if that done to that operator

[patent harness]

i dont have any other specialist built i was just seeing if i can get lucky with the temp recruitment thing

[errant siren]

Just use on Reserve Vanguard then.

They have decent stats and you can buy them unlimited.

[patent harness]

i already abandoned it whoops

[errant siren]

[long tundra]

4*s are 0 Hope so could have just gotten one of those.

[errant siren]

Next time if you don't have proper ops, just buy Reserves.

[rich thorn]

expecially in is3

cuz they can eat metastasis

[errant siren]

They may not be good as normal 3☆, but as cannon fodder will do nicely.

[patent harness]

what does this do

what are the rewards

i mean

[long tundra]

Me when I gain Evolutionary Genome but the only operator with a Rejection is a Reserve operator.

[rich thorn]

special encounter, place operator on lotus and let them not die

give 1 random relic, same exp as normal battle, and voucher too

and they become candleguests

usually better choice for advanced players

because you know what you pick, and have more benefits for later

and you need a healer for that

like sussuro

[rich thorn]

dont like this map at all

[sly harness]

EM two ops + bodies

not the worst

[rich thorn]

who said worst

just dont like

there are way worse maps

[sly harness]

[patent harness]

why arent either of us dealing damage

[rich thorn]

cuz crock have passive

dmg res if its not from blocked target

and you just para him

[errant siren]

The Blockage cannot attack him
The CrocChamp cannot attack him either

Someone must die

Retreat Trag

[rich thorn]

ge gonna kill him with some time

cuz fucking ele dmg

[errant siren]

And kill the Croc in Melee combat.

[quick steppe]

the croc is in a 1v1 to the death

[rich thorn]

[patent harness]

cat lured out the croc

[quick steppe]

no one else can interfere

[rich thorn]

dont need to retreat

[patent harness]

w cat ❤️‍🩹

[errant siren]

Oh, I forgot Lure can free blocker. W Cat indeed.

[smoky tiger]

How the heck do you clear this stage?! I dont have enough dp to deploy a single operator with that 3 dp stealer

[rich thorn]

yep cancer

without dp agent

or low dp ops

[errant siren]

Insta Vanguard drop, 99 DP coin

OR DIE.

[sly harness]

You can deploy operators that cost up to 11 DP relicless
So Liberators (with p2) for example
And they can kill the DP snipers allowing you to either follow up with other units or just leave and come back to finish the fight on your second attempt without the most annoying enemy
The ed2 collectible can help a lot because with it you can have someone cost 0 DP (you can for example take only 1 unit into the stage to force the 0 DP cost on them)
But for that you will need to find the Decision node early
Raidian with 0 DP cost summons also works
Or the woodwheel collectible that gives starting DP should have high priority if you see it anywhere

[patent harness]

does she do anything

[cursive verge]

Ehhhhhh

[patent harness]

ok

[cursive verge]

Which floor

Shes a good starter choice

[patent harness]

floor 4

[cursive verge]

[patent harness]

what

[faint rampart]

ending 2

[rich thorn]

leg

[faint rampart]

0 dp

[cursive verge]

Feet time

[patent harness]

this is so ass

[cursive verge]

...thats pretty easy

[patent harness]

i dont have exualter

[cursive verge]

Borrow

Wait

[rich thorn]

too late for borrow

[cursive verge]

Why are you looking up ed3 requirements in ed2 run

[cursive verge]

Time to skillfully manifest temp exu2

[patent harness]

that was ending 2 reqs and this is a ending 1 run

[cursive verge]

[patent harness]

i just wanted to see what the reqs were since i got the encounter already /

[cursive verge]

Oh wait thats for raidian proficiency

Thats not an ed2 requirement

[patent harness]

the exu2 part tho

[cursive verge]

I mean

[patent harness]

zz

[cursive verge]

If you were follpwing the guide

Why didnt you borrow her

[patent harness]

i was borrowing trag

[cursive verge]

Trag is for ed1

Now glhf

[patent harness]

and this is a ed1 run

❤️

[cursive verge]

Then why did you twke ed2 relic

[patent harness]

i didnt take it

i just took the random relic instead

[rich thorn]

you can just shrimple not choose ed2

at f5

[cursive verge]

Oh thats jist the option

[rich thorn]

but kill leg

[patent harness]

what do you mean kill leg

[cursive verge]

Ed1 with ed2 debuff

[rich thorn]

the thing what will bother you at normal maps

[cursive verge]

Wait

Its not even a debuff

Just bait and forge

[rich thorn]

till you deal 50% of its hp

[patent harness]

i didnt take the ink thing

[rich thorn]

you can deal with it, but not choose option at node before f5 boss

[vital wedge]

:(

got fucked up by the rhine guardians stage earlier and most of my lives because of that, any tips for that one?

[rich thorn]

/pins

[harsh otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[faint rampart]

🥄 🧑‍🍼

[forest orchid]

How helpful is Silverash alter + Gnosis Is modded to wang?

[patent harness]

thank you hoshialt

[sly harness]

the relicless of Rhine Guardians probably won't be helpful

[slate hull]

why Ange skill level 1?

[sly harness]

no idea and she is borrowed btw (e1 Angelina start)

[slate hull]

yeah, it is really interesting, is it something to do with level 1 having shorter duration

all levels have the same 25 cost, but level 1 has a 10s duration vs the 25s of m3

[sly harness]

ye, you're probably right

the cycle is significantly different

[gaunt bay]

skull

skilllevelgated

[slate hull]

I kind of hope they eventually add a feature to change skill levels freely

[sly harness]

[crimson grove]

What exactly do both these mean in IS5?

[rich thorn]

Some relics will get updated effects depending on difficulty

[south token]

Finally my fully built abyssal hunters started to pay off all the resources they took from me by force

Just fricking finally

[sly harness]

Cycling those two is enough to clear EM Sanguinarch's Legacy even with only some goober melee bodies

[sly harness]

Tech of the day 🧑‍💻

[gaunt bay]

Lukas tech support

[red horizon]

First-ish actually serious IS run since I wanna get into it, starting by IS5. Support squad, cheap old wis/gummy/click. mon3 draft floor1
Is this a good start

[sly harness]

Bait told me about it literally yesterday

[gaunt bay]

Bait tech support

[red horizon]

IS newbie here, so like it is floor 1 but in this scenario I use plans to go down and get emergency op for free ye?

[sly harness]

First go right for the encounter, if Combat has Spine of Epoch taking vertical for it won't be bad otherwise it is skippable

List of stages with Spines

[red horizon]

I see.. so you mostly just take vertical pathing like these when there’s spine of epoch??

Interesting

They give good rewards ye?

[sly harness]

In IS5 yes, Spines have priority there

Above d16 you won't take vertical like this on f1 because the will cost 3 Plans and you will need to be more optimal with their usage

Generally 2 combats (prioritize the ones with Spines) and encounter (to get "Fated Encounter" and pick Lamp) would be the optimal f1

[rich thorn]

But what if we gamba f1 for Rhodes gate

[sly harness]

[red horizon]

I see, ty
And how should I go about refreshes?

I don’t know how I should spend them, even if I know I definitely should spend them

[sly harness]

Anyone knows whether there is any beginner guide for IS5?

Maybe check this

[rich thorn]

/pins

[harsh otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[red horizon]

Tysm all ^^

[rich thorn]

Actually, all basic stuff covered in either ingame tutorial pictures or pins

[red horizon]

The emergency combat ended up just being Hasty Escape. It works, right?

Do I vert travel then

[rich thorn]

Sorry, we can't see your map

And carry your run

[sly harness]

No Spines/Plans there. Like you can if you want, but better save them for f2

[rich thorn]

You either not even spend plans f1, or upgrade shop

Oh ye, if you starting IS5 you need to upgrade shop, save house and uh, yellow one nodes with plans

They have 3 permanent upgrades and last one, what lasts only 1 run

[red horizon]

I posted it earlier, sorry. You joined the conversation a bit later

[sly harness]

isn't it 5 permanent and 6th temp

[rich thorn]

So far, till high difficulty, main priority is upgrade nodes, donate ignots in shop, upgrade skill tree and learn maps (spires spawn and how enemies move)

[rich thorn]

Can't remember, that shit is too old to remember

🥀

Oh yes, if you here to just farm mode and forget about it, can stop at d10 for max bonus modifier

[red horizon]

Oh ttrue

Should I dump ingots into donation for now unless something very valuable

[rich thorn]

Yes

Dump preferably for now at least

[late pecan]

Just spam ingots donate in shop

Its a 'long term' investment

Cuz if u do it now, u get permanent buffs faster than later

[open girder]

I kinda wish there was no random investment limit

[sly harness]

I had 20 in the end but I forgot to take a screenshot

[late pecan]

I remember when is5 got broke with ingot spam on the release of custom seeds

[sly harness]

Ye this system is ass. Fortunately in IS5 you can cheese it and let's say that IS6 takes some steps to make investing easier

[late pecan]

Spam the same seed, speedrun f1, put 40 ingots down guaranteed every playthrough

[late pecan]

The +4 ingots when u finish the ending?

[sly harness]

It is 15 now iirc

And used to be 5 in dlc0

[late pecan]

Ohh wow, that does help a lot actually

I like that QoL change

[rich thorn]

That's why I still can't finish is2-is4 donation

....

😭

[open girder]

For IS2 100% I just have left

• 7 collectibles to acquire
• 2 collectibles to unlock
• 92 ingots to invest

[rich thorn]

But IS3 is ass in that

Who's idea was to make each withdrawal cost 1 key

[quick steppe]

bait loves it

something something resource gated withdrawal is good

something something -999 ruins is5 difficulty

[open girder]

If at least the number of ingots was fixed, like you can only invest 10 per run or something, would make this more reasonable

[sly harness]

it is so nice though

you will never run out of it

and the ratio i 1 to 1

this system is much better than what we have in other ISes

[rich thorn]

But it's not 1 to 1

It clearly says, first one is 1, next is 2, and 3, 4

[sly harness]

1 ingot you invest is 1 ingot you withdraw

in IS3

[quick steppe]

in is3 its 1 to 1 ye

[sly harness]

you can get up to 8 Ingots with 1 key

[rich thorn]

My bad

Still.ass

[faint rampart]

hater

[sly harness]

Is she good, guys?

[desert brook]

what does she even do 🔥

[woeful knot]

this mf doesnt even know how is3 shop works 😭

fyi its the better iteration of shop withdraws

[desert brook]

that's actually really good

[sly harness]

Idk (her e2 art kinda cool)

[desert brook]

the only IS i have shop withdrawal unlocked on is is6 i think

lmao

[rich thorn]

Yes

[long tundra]

I've never done shop withdrawal so I wouldn't know.

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[sly harness]

give me a sec i will get my amount of ingots invested in IS5

[rich thorn]

But is5 is laziest ver 😭

Just shop squad, refresh, invest, leave

Repeat till 999

[sly harness]

fu.... i need to kill my run for that

[rich thorn]

You already did like 100 IS3 run kills

On f3 ? Or f4

[woeful knot]

lukas work for fuk! we need an enrouter

[sly harness]

Hi I won't en route with Hoederer

What else do you want

[woeful knot]

wtf how do u know the comp

[sly harness]

I have seen Bait complaining about it multiplies time I don't know the entire comp

[sly harness]

So, ye, I was a Lamp player btw so. Those who play non Lamp comps a lot probably have like 5 times that much

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[rich thorn]

True

Shop talons player especially

[long tundra]

Do the greyed out nodes mean something, or is it a visual bug?

[sly harness]

You need to have less light to access them

[long tundra]

Oh huh, interesting. Thanks!

[rain bloom]

almost there. I guess i will use this on wang

[red horizon]

Leizi2 or Sakiko for is5…

[desert brook]

what the fuck

[rich thorn]

Both are good, but leizi2 is yan

And s3 good vs leg

While saki is just s3 dps

[slate hull]

that is a 5, not a 6

[sly harness]

2 Hope

[long tundra]

[rich thorn]

Ur not gonna believe, but I still choose leizi2 over saki

Cuz liberator

And s1/s2 usage cases

[long tundra]

Leizi supremacy.

[rich thorn]

Just find spaghetti

And smash all enemies with s1 ass land

[long tundra]

Especially with Portable Supply Station.

[rich thorn]

Or kings relic

[slate hull]

I too am a Leizi2 enjoyer, Saki is more of a pick for when you have a really baller run

[rich thorn]

Good help in frequent dispute

Wait no

[desert brook]

inflation jumpscare

[rich thorn]

Wait, yes,.dispute

Can wait till one hammerbro destroy rocks, and just kill others with leizi2 s2

[long tundra]

One of IS2s various means of torture.

[rich thorn]

My favorite is either red haze stage or f3 red haze boss

[red horizon]

first is5 run officially done. ed1 accomplished! So fremont wasn’t any hard after all

[inland elbow]

Gz

[woeful knot]

congrats, one of many i hope

[red horizon]

Still a little shaken by how dpsing phase 1 with mon3 s3 was enough to get rid of the annoying redeploy but ye

hopefully the first of many, many runs, successful and unsuccessful

[rich thorn]

And then rolling ancestors come and give a surprise

[red horizon]

[desert brook]

rolling ancestors changes ending stage?

i thought it was f3 boss

[red horizon]

I’d say it’s not good, but for my first run, could be worse

[rich thorn]

Ye, lamp somehow totally ignored

[desert brook]

oh yeah, it only changes f5, im schizo

[rich thorn]

Ngl, ed2a is ass

For proper lamp usage, you lower your hp to 1 and keep it there

So you can grab powerful kings relics

[desert brook]

damn i wanna try ed2 alt it looks rlly cool

[rich thorn]

In basic

In more advance, better read pins

[red horizon]

It started out… okay? Ish. I did get the wis-a-hand. After that, I ended up not figuring out how to get other important stuff guess i just didn’t know. Next time, I’ll do better.

[rich thorn]

Yea, just a start

[desert brook]

yeah its hard to guess exactly how lamp works, you kinda need to search it up or have someone tell you

[rich thorn]

But need to read about lamp if you picking it

[red horizon]

There definitely are better paths and options but then again I also wanna prio using alll my plans to upgrade shop, safehouse and false to truth

[rich thorn]

There is a guide in pins

[red horizon]

Most of them at least

[rich thorn]

Safehouse are usually low priority

[desert brook]

getting all the permanent upgrades only takes a few runs i think

[red horizon]

I guess so, but I do think that sort of upgrade is important to get asap so I don’t have to deal with it later

[rich thorn]

It's usually bosky > EM battle > normal battle > face off

[red horizon]

Better solve it all now than not having it when I eventually fall into the node in a run I’m set to do something more ambitious

[rich thorn]

Like, you want more exp and relics

So you take more battles

IF not counting alternative endings

[rich thorn]

Biggest ambition is D18 triple ending

[red horizon]

(For now, “ambitious” does mean an alternative, more difficult ending or high difficulty)

(It’s not like I have bosky unlocked. You need the weird post-run currency for that)

[rich thorn]

But main priority would be

Full skill tree

[red horizon]

Indeed

[desert brook]

is bosky locked in the tech tree

thats really funny

[rich thorn]

And upgrades for shop and false or truth

[red horizon]

It is 😭

[rich thorn]

Same as scout

And lost and found

[red horizon]

I’m heading straight to blueprint squad tho

[rich thorn]

It's easy squad, yes, but eh

[red horizon]

What’s the overall prio? I do have the scout node upgrade already

[rich thorn]

You gonna skip too many battles if not experienced

[rich thorn]

Lost and found, it needs for both ending 3 and 4

[red horizon]

Makes it easier early on I guess. Also lamp

[rich thorn]

Yes indeed

But please please, read lamp explanation

Or it becomes just +10 ignots relic

[red horizon]

I do guess that you mostly only wanna refresh on stages like elusive merc yeah?

[red horizon]

I have

I’ve read through all is5-related pins in this channel

[rich thorn]

You either refresh encounters or battle what you dont want to enter

Or lost and found

[red horizon]

Mhm

[rich thorn]

Also

To lower hp, you could stay at yellow mental toil

Instead of leaking

[red horizon]

Uhhh, I’ve also saw “robbing shop” mentioned a few times, how does that work—

[red horizon]

iiinteresting

Ty

[rich thorn]

Too early for you, before it you need to invest ignots

[rich thorn]

That's main strat usually

[red horizon]

Ahh you do need to invest. Thought so

[rich thorn]

You lower hp to 1 with lamp

Then grab hand, and then kings lance for +50 aspd when you have 1 lp

And slowly get others kings relics for more buffs

[red horizon]

Do you usually wanna not get a lot of loadbearing then? For easier fractured mind

[rich thorn]

Shop rob is for ignots,and when you have X of them, your lamp will give aspd relic based on ignots amount

[rich thorn]

You can just adjust mental toil with removing them

Or adding ofk

[red horizon]

I see, I see

Thank you a lot

[bronze vale]

I didnt expect this

[red horizon]

Should I do fremont again since I’m still unlocking important things?

[rich thorn]

For now you can do ending 1, 2 and 5

3 and 4 locked behind lost and found node

[red horizon]

Guess I take this as a yes shrug

omfg i did not just get the slugkaz encounter instead of lamp/talons/doodle one in floor 1

[rich thorn]

Yeah, fated encounter is not guaranteed

But pretty common

[desert brook]

:fated:

[rich thorn]

Its name is literally Fated Encounter

[red horizon]

Guess so. Restarted run, else there were no other encounters for me

[rich thorn]

F2 can give it too tho

F3 is too late

Or you can play fatedless

[red horizon]

Already done

[prime mountain]

But we make our own fate!

Screw you game!

[rich thorn]

• takes talons and do stabby stab

[red horizon]

This game just separately offered me vouchers to promote each one of the three ops I started with shady

[arctic panther]

• takes doodle and s

[red horizon]

By the way what’s the usual ingotconomy

Of is5

[rich thorn]

Depends on Fate relic and squad

If lamp, it's for players here, take ending 4 relic, get 32 ignots, rob shop, take apsd.relic

[red horizon]

I see…

[rich thorn]

If it's talons shop squad, your gamba on shop relics, and withdrawal ignots

Alot of them

Some can literally empty their bank in 1 run

[red horizon]

[rich thorn]

The thing is, ending 4 first relic from lost and found

It eats all your ignots, and toss exp debuff at your face

[red horizon]

.

ouch

is it the qui-something i hear about

[rich thorn]

Yes, quillon

[desert brook]

i pathed to a scout and then realized i dont have the ed4 relic

[rich thorn]

But it's face -off

Not scout

[desert brook]

is6*

[rich thorn]

Damn

At least say what theme

[desert brook]

i forgot

brain is not worky

[rich thorn]

Same

[desert brook]

i drafted hoshi and im just sitting here in the scout node contemplating my life choices

[rich thorn]

Just send a goober

[red horizon]

How’s trag draft in is5? Got a supporter voucher

[rich thorn]

Gut

One of best actually

[red horizon]

Nice

[rich thorn]

And he uses all 3 skills

In different situations

[red horizon]

omw to that londinium artillery stage now

[rich thorn]

Which one

[red horizon]

(/joke, nah

[rich thorn]

Cuz there is 2 with cannon

[red horizon]

The one that’s hell on earth

[rich thorn]

[desert brook]

should i buy ed4 relic and gamble for scout coin or should i just do ed3

[rich thorn]

It's a weird question

[desert brook]

[rich thorn]

If you wanted ed4, it's probably ded, f4 scout spawn possible but not so common

[red horizon]

king’s crown on a combine thought node

[rich thorn]

Still need more kings relics for it

[desert brook]

the scout i fucked up on was f4 tahts why i need scout coin now

f5 now

[red horizon]

It’s a start

[rich thorn]

Ye, then dead for sure

Could try face off

And cope

[desert brook]

buhhhh

[red horizon]

Do I get pledge of babel

[desert brook]

i will just do ed3 probably

[open girder]

8 collectibles left
7 super rare, 2 of those are drop exclusive
It's fine, I'm fine, happy thoughts

[rich thorn]

Don't ask that, that's your choice

For endings

[red horizon]

Oh, optional?

[rich thorn]

That's ending 2 relic

[red horizon]

Completely optional, good

I’ll skip it for now, then

What’s the value of different midbosses

Better rewards?

[rich thorn]

In is5, plans what you can get

That's all

Just different bosses, so you not get bored to punch same dude

[open girder]

I'm so freaking hyped for IS3
If the rest are remotely as fun as IS2 I'm gonna have a blast

[red horizon]

isn’t IS2 one of the more ehh ones?

or so i’ve heard

[rich thorn]

Is2 is oldest and don't have alot of qol, so if you liked it, you gonna like others

[red horizon]

IS3 will likely already feel a lot better for sure, even if I find that one to be personally really annoying sometimes

[long tundra]

Compared to IS2 it's very nice though.

[arctic panther]

first person to say this sentence ever

[long tundra]

I had a good time.

[red horizon]

Would it be more plans than laqeramaline spine

[rich thorn]

Till you come to shit like hope tax on all

[long tundra]

People-Oriented Squad.

[rich thorn]

No

She gives 3, other usually 2 or even one

[long tundra]

I went with Research Squad all the way for IS2, so it's nice to have a straight upgrade for it in IS3.

[rich thorn]

Can't remember, Goliath can spawn 1 or it always 2

[rich thorn]

Class squads are better in is2 tho

With auto promote

[long tundra]

I didn't really have many Operators of each class when I did it, plus my starter was Lemuen and I didn't have any other Snipers that were really worth it.

[rich thorn]

And in IS3 after fukin d6 you will go either MoM, class or suck ballz

On f1

[long tundra]

People-Oriented got me to D18 quite well.

[open girder]

Idk, I mean, I tested IS6 just a bit and jumped into IS2 and I'm going for 100%. I have zero clue how the others are

[rich thorn]

Oh yes

People

Forgot it's correct name

[long tundra]

All the buffs it gets feels kinda crazy, especially with the Hope tax yeah.

Genuinely swimming in Hope compared to IS2.

[rich thorn]

Speccast fine too

Defsup is mid

Defenders are dead is3

But supports are good

[red horizon]

Finally king’s lance

[long tundra]

Hoshiguma the Breacher works quite well I find, but she's mostly only a Defender in name yeah.

[hollow gazelle]

you could go old meta with horn

[sly harness]

Sniper/medic is workable in IS3

[red horizon]

Will duck lord on faceoff run away from battle real quick

[rich thorn]

Vgg is probably worst between all 4

Sorry, but too many things doesn't like low ground ops here

[sly harness]

Fine on d15

[red horizon]

Specialists are quite good in is3 seen as there are quite a few solves including shifting enemies around

[sly harness]

Not enough damage for d18

[long tundra]

(Outside of like monthly squads and stuff I don't really like Class-specific squads to be honest, my lineup doesn't match up so well for them.)

[red horizon]

^^^

[sly harness]

A lot of value in class squad already comes with the e2 start

[charred lake]

pramalt solves left izumik stall so i only need blocker for the 3rd lane?

top

labe

[desert brook]

this is always going to be funny to me

[rich thorn]

Yes

[charred lake]

while lee deals with right lane

[paper notch]

huge

[rich thorn]

Not fun as - pay 8 ignots for 10 ignots relic

[sly harness]

Afk for 10 seconds next to the red box, then behaves as normal duck

[rich thorn]

At least tongbao could be tossed and you get your -10

[desert brook]

also true

[paper notch]

this reminds me of

[rich thorn]

Wu shang hour, my hated

[paper notch]

[rich thorn]

Another win for tragodia s1

Can bind animals

[inland elbow]

mf larps playing is3 but doesn't even know the squad names bruh

[rich thorn]

Because I'm not bothering with remembering each name in each fucking mode

Same as vgg or gvg

[sly harness]

Long term use Lee on top ig. You don't need to permanently stall right, this wave is only an issue two times

• in the frontal part of the stage when Izumik stays next to it for ~60 seconds
• when he is finishing his circle (then you will have only like 3-6 jellies to take care of)
  Other than that you can leave it open

[sly harness]

Won't perma without ASPD

[rich thorn]

Smh, triggered by not correct squad name

[inland elbow]

I was more annoyed by the mom squad rec ngl

[charred lake]

i only saw top jell merging with izumik once

[rich thorn]

At least it's easily fixed with either lance or inspirer

Or cheetos

[inland elbow]

maybe trag was a mistake

[rich thorn]

Was?

It is

[charred lake]

[rich thorn]

If pram2 is a mistake for general player

Trag is a mistake for advanced stuff

[charred lake]

then wang is gon be a giga mistake for the game

[desert brook]

car

[sly harness]

60 ASPD should be the requirement with M3

[paper notch]

good car

[rich thorn]

Character with W name just hit a second tower

[charred lake]

car

[charred lake]

man

[rich thorn]

First one was wisadel ofk

[charred lake]

yes

[rich thorn]

S1m3?

Or sl7

[sly harness]

S1M3

[rich thorn]

[red horizon]

tough choices

[sly harness]

SL7 something like 114 ASPD

[red horizon]

Does april have any usage at all? Curious

[inland elbow]

nah, it's like 35 aspd or something dumb

the in game description lies to you

it's 0.5 seconds longer than it should be

[sly harness]

[inland elbow]

ros comps

[muted skiff]

[desert brook]

turned out she was useful

[inland elbow]

sir there's two statugeists still alive

gotta go get them

[rich thorn]

Can't guarantee, cuz I forgot clearly, but it was Perma with deathmatch

[desert brook]

yea thats what im doin

[rich thorn]

100 aspd

[sly harness]

I hate this game

[rich thorn]

🥀

[sly harness]

So if it is 3.5 seconds long SL7 should need like 83 ASPD

[rich thorn]

And with s1m3 you just slap lance

And enjoy

[desert brook]

maybe we all need a brick in our lives

[sly harness]

I hope you fished for Megamus

[desert brook]

i did

[rich thorn]

Or just get a fucking 📸

[desert brook]

didnt get it

[odd rose]

horrible sui

actually awful

[sly harness]

What... So many fights

[muted skiff]

floor 1 bosky

probly

[rich thorn]

Too many shops

[sly harness]

Surely not all of them are Confusions and To Forget Oneself which should be left for later

[rich thorn]

[sly harness]

Already 5 Candles in

[muted skiff]

tianshi +1

[sly harness]

Also active Hour of Sui

[muted skiff]

true

[sly harness]

Actually it is 6 candles in

[odd rose]

it's f2

it's awful

[sly harness]

So fight

[odd rose]

i'm not ready at all

[paper notch]

no one e2 here?

[sly harness]

e1 Raidian?

[red horizon]

What’s the general consensus on what to send to scout nodes

For IS5

lamp

[sly harness]

6* ops

Carries

[odd rose]

only achetto

[red horizon]

low diff, newbie, starting to get into it

[odd rose]

yeh

[paper notch]

oh yeah no point entering this stage then

[sly harness]

Saki fault

[odd rose]

bruh

so close

[paper notch]

gooder outcome than expected

[odd rose]

yeh

achetto makes saki s1 useable

[muted skiff]

how much dmg does ufo do 10k ?

scary

[odd rose]

idk but it 1 shots

[desert brook]

yeah it has a gorbillion atk

idk why they did that

[sly harness]

It has special stats. Very high atk but no HP

(Archetto is a fraud because she can't pierce the DEF)

[odd rose]

maybe run saved

[sly harness]

Shuttle

Kettles go go

[muted skiff]

saki can kill the ufo early on this tile no ?

e1 , nvm

[odd rose]

XD

[paper notch]

you mean drone?

ufo spawns above no?

[muted skiff]

it will go down

[sly harness]

UFO will hit it

[muted skiff]

no

not on this tile

[muted skiff]

yea

[sly harness]

It isn't safe

[muted skiff]

no

bruh try it

i start the stage with mlynar on this tile every time

if i have him e2

[muted skiff]

try it !

hoshi s3

mlynar s3

saki s3

they will open the stage for you

[inland elbow]

there's no way that's safe 💀

guess I'll try it the next time I play

[muted skiff]

you will thank me later

[arctic panther]

-# on d0 maybe

[muted skiff]

[sly harness]

4800 atk still

Also Raidian S3 solos this stage, nothing to open there

[arctic panther]

you can giga highroll through that

[long tundra]

I hate that Fatty isn't an Elite...

[muted skiff]

elite gain more stats from lot of things , isnt that a good news ?

[long tundra]

I run Lemuen.

[muted skiff]

[sly harness]

Like those tiles aren't safe

[desert brook]

toll for roads is useless on f6 right

[sly harness]

You can get cocoon from it

[desert brook]

you know whats funny

[sly harness]

ed3 f6 can get some verticals, ed4 not

[desert brook]

i actually traded in cocoon, i got toll for roads from it

[sly harness]

[red horizon]

A few plans spent, but I completed the king (lance, crown, armor, legacy) and got coin operated toy in… 1 floor. Quite nice. Combat or two as well.

[desert brook]

icic

[open girder]

5 runs and not a single of the collectibles or EOp that I need...this is gonna be hard as hell

[desert brook]

yeah

ok so keeping toll was a good idea

[red horizon]

Just found the nymph+amiya encounter. New player here. It’s already floor 5. Worth it or nah?

I don’t remember how you do it so may be a stupid question

[desert brook]

wait i ran out of coupons

minor blunder

[red horizon]

is is5 ed5 on very low diff hard

[desert brook]

i feel like youll probably always lose ed5 on the first try tbh

cuz its clamplicated

[red horizon]

Since its my second run should I just ignore it and bully fremont

[inland elbow]

It's not hard but it has quite a few mechanics

Which don't care whether you're on low difficulty or high

[red horizon]

Such as…?

I’m a little scared

[desert brook]

like

it's clamplicated

so it's always hard if you dont know what youre doing

[mint gull]

What are the face off rewards for the 3 encounters in is6?

[flint token]

Leftmost is two tongbao and one voucher
Rightmost is two vouchers and 1 tongbao
idk about the middle

[muted skiff]

let me try these 2

[mint gull]

Wait u sure right is 2 voucher?

[flint token]

yeah?

At least that’s how i remember it

[mint gull]

I don't think they're safe? Iirc I got blown up when I deployed there, but lmk if im wrong cus that would be a game changer lol

[flint token]

they arent

[muted skiff]

sui shadow , lets go !

[muted skiff]

time to find out

[red horizon]

Will I lose the run if I lose that stage

[desert brook]

if you lose the ending stage? yes

oh my god this mode is so ass

i start is2 run
victoria crown
f1 survivalist
leak 10
f2 blind + survivalist

[hollow gazelle]

Is2 in a nutshell

[mint gull]

Just to make sure, right is defo 2 vouchers? I REALLY need even a single voucher rn

[inland elbow]

right is 2

[mint gull]

...

[odd rose]

nice

[inland elbow]

there's two vouchers what's the problem

[desert brook]

maybe wrong vouchers

[mint gull]

FECK! What do you call those pink slips! Thats what I needed!

[desert brook]

coupons

[inland elbow]

coupons

bro

[desert brook]

lmao

[mint gull]

😭

So it was the middle that gives coupons, darn it...

This is still a winning run, but goddammit, its the most feel bad win I had in a while. Everything that could go wrong, went wrong. Sigh...

So cooked bro 😭

[kindred iron]

Rate my is3 speedrun

[muted skiff]

chuzenji

whats next ? CE ？

[flint token]

Bro took a while

[rough thorn]

diff 4 be looking like diff 10 is6

[short anchor]

Ju went down in 20 seconds, those stackable relics are nuts (d12)

[remote badger]

d10 looks like d4

[crystal niche]

Is it possible to get whack a mus statuegist with raidian start

[cursive verge]

Yes

Ih

Ig

Who are uour other drafts

You would have yo stall with raidian s2

[desert brook]

s2 should kill it in a couple cycles no? or does it not reach

[crystal niche]

Uh

[cursive verge]

Summons dont attack enemies behind them

[crystal niche]

Ethan and sneg

[desert brook]

[cursive verge]

I forgot deploynent tile locations near the statuegeists

[crystal niche]

It's mostly range tiles

[cursive verge]

Raidian herself

[crystal niche]

[desert brook]

pretty sure only a single summon + raidian can hit it

and i think the summon can only hit on skill

[cursive verge]

Exploit this to stall while rsidian dishes out dmg to the geist

[open girder]

This is pure delight

[cursive verge]

Sp thats what you are into

[gaunt bay]

i hope they kill her before she has enough sp to activate s3

[buoyant beacon]

Back in the day you don't even hope anyone can do it without relic

Hoshi have 8 SP gap and pretty much is a helidrop is just, man

[buoyant beacon]

Should they turn the rest of blade Sarkaz to hammer junkie?

Is it going to be better or worse? I think it's a lot harder that way

[ivory hemlock]

have ppl tried doing nuzlocke esque rules

[open girder]

I can imagine
How long ago is IS2 from?

[remote badger]

ages ago

[crystal niche]

[gaunt bay]

the kinda issue with that is that the hope curve isnt generous enough for that and that there exists difficult enough content where clearing it with any consistency at all is a challenge in itself

[ivory hemlock]

wym hope curve

[buoyant beacon]

I think TL;DR is imagine you spend 7 hope to draft Shu then she immidiately die to bs and now you are net -7 for no reason

[ivory hemlock]

I concur.

[vagrant tiger]

https://www.krooster.com/u/real-beige-aak-33l4
planning on trying ED3 of IS6 (without borrowing) think these ops could do it?

[ivory hemlock]

if you drop difficulty maybe its not as bad though

[crystal niche]

sure u can

[buoyant beacon]

You can put Nuzlocke on Pokemon because the base game is piss easy, and I AM Pokemon player I have right to say so

Maybe if they give 3x more voucher maybe Nuzlocke make sense

[vagrant tiger]

Really?

[ivory hemlock]

i was also thinking of the second part of the nuzlocke rules where you can only draft one op per floor lol

[crystal niche]

just highroll enough

[open girder]

The last few collectibles that I need must be absurdly rare...
I'm starting to question my irl sanity

[buoyant beacon]

Bruh 🗿
Exclusively on D0 probably that could be fun lmfao

[ivory hemlock]

Curious.

[vagrant tiger]

Ah.

[faint rampart]

you have hoshi2 saki sa2 for pfinder fight
after that the ed3 boss is just whatever, dont forget to get heals and its all good

[crystal niche]

[buoyant beacon]

||@/mosiemon12 gotta share my fav moth song https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqYUbNR-c0&list=RD7jy8bGlSZaM&index=2||

Do we have any good randomizer?

No, does anyone play ts on randomizer?

I mean def not on D15 but it sound pt fun

[crystal niche]

wtf

my ethan has 2 block lmao

[buoyant beacon]

#4 with that 2 block relic?

[crystal niche]

is6

idk how lol

[vagrant tiger]

Huh.
I kinda expected to be told something along the lines of Tragodia or Wis or Exu alter but actually having the ops that would make a fight possible, gotta say it feels weird.

[crystal niche]

nah hoshi2 is already very good

ur mind is already brainrotted by top 3

[buoyant beacon]

I don't even know anything else that give 2 block lmao, I don't even think any other IS have more than 1 relic that give more block

[ivory hemlock]

doesnt one of the kings relics give more block

[vagrant tiger]

I don’t even use any of them, I just assumed.

[buoyant beacon]

What did you feed him

[quick steppe]

top gun squad is5

genuinely some good fun

[buoyant beacon]

Maya mentioned

I legit never touch anything that's not +20 ingot squad before #4 lmfao

[crystal niche]

idk

[open girder]

Relics?

[crystal niche]

but he can block now

[buoyant beacon]

I don't think he WANT to block tho 💀

[crystal niche]

nah actually it's not bad

[vagrant tiger]

Coin flipping time for dodges

[crystal niche]

[buoyant beacon]

Nice of you can manage it tbh, good for you

Unlike some dumbass drop Ascalon on melee elite and die here

[open girder]

Are relics something similar to IS2 collectibles?

[quick steppe]

yes the name is just diff

idk where the name relics even came from

[buoyant beacon]

I think it's literally the same thing? Like literally the same in the sense that sometime they call collectibles relics in #2

[crystal niche]

[crystal niche]

people here

just don't wanna say collectible

[buoyant beacon]

Way too long man totally agree

Not sure why not call it item tho, maybe too normie or smth?

[open girder]

Could it be the original Chinese name or something?

[ivory hemlock]

you can abbreviate them as cols

[buoyant beacon]

Coals, that's what I get on Christmas

[open girder]

Or even a legacy name from IS1

[ivory hemlock]

or maybe thats too hard to know the original meaning

[quick steppe]

cn is 藏品 which fits collectible better than relic tbh

[ivory hemlock]

how about cocts

[quick steppe]

relic is def easier to say tho

relicless also sounds better than collectibleless

[buoyant beacon]

Oh hell no the three brick kanji jumpscare

[quick steppe]

Chinese is funny
火炎焱燚

[ivory hemlock]

Relic: 2 Syllables (Cringe)
Coc: 1 Syllable (Easy)

[open girder]

Can I assume that "artifact" is the same deal?

[vagrant tiger]

Such begins attempt one of ED3

[buoyant beacon]

Narantuye alert

[crystal niche]

[buoyant beacon]

Goated

[quick steppe]

Sts tells us artifact is 人工制品

man made product

(I know wrong context shhhh)

[open girder]

I vaguely recognize this as the "fire" kanji from Japanese. Wasn't aware there was some overlaps

[quick steppe]

kanji and mandarin have enough overlap that you can guess the general meaning of one if you know the other

which is nice

[vagrant tiger]

What? It’s my usual start

[cunning karma]

That's how I play yugioh

[quick steppe]

literally true

catch me reading the vibes of ocg cards

[cunning karma]

There are some common hiragana patterns that you need to memorize and then the remaining parts are just kanji

[faint rampart]

exu good as always
wis idk, big aoe and somehow helps in pfinder fight
not that they're needed

[quick steppe]

reading cards when they have proper formatting 😊

[cursive verge]

Yugioh players

[crystal niche]

wow new run

[cursive verge]

Me pokemon player

Well was