is-station

[sly harness]

If you are not averaging 80+ collectibles in dlc1

[foggy oriole]

that much?

how do you even route to get that much

[sly harness]

Yep that is IS6 for you

[foggy oriole]

no genuinely

[faint rampart]

waiting for bro to pull out the bait vid

[foggy oriole]

how do you even route to get that much consistently

because I enter f6 with like 40 relics

[sly harness]

• The better doubts conditions (2 collectibles)
• Bosky Shops and farming LPs
• Killing animals
• Farming ingots
• prioritizing pathfinder fights
• proper pathing
• not robbing before f6
• coins menagment (Plan trades)
• knowing and fishing for economy coins and collectibles

[foggy oriole]

ed4 f6 rob is really uncomfortable for me

I'd rather not lol

[sly harness]

40 when entering f6 doesn't sound the worst but in ban less conditions it should look more like 50-70

[sly harness]

If you scale enough it is easy

Like Prama solo with white shoes or Raidian solo or just some random 4* clears it

[foggy oriole]

unless I'm going for score I don't see why I need to take the risk of potentially exploding to cannot when I know I can spam candle and get everything to clear ed4

it's like

[severe oasis]

pram solo? where do you place her

[sly harness]

White shoes

[foggy oriole]

I either:

don't rob cannot and win, or
rob cannot and potentially win harder, or die to cannot

[severe oasis]

i know

where

[foggy oriole]

I assume just in front of blue box

right?

but what about the stun cannons

[severe oasis]

yeah thats what im thinking

[foggy oriole]

ok now that I'm properly pissed off at this game

I'll just go play the horse girl roguelike

[foggy oriole]

do they just pop out and die?

[sly harness]

You may want to bring some +1 to break Talisman if she gets one before she gets her skill

[severe oasis]

i see

she really doesnt die?

[sly harness]

Although this is a strat i was using with 150+ collectibles

Her snow DoT dealt a few thousand damage

[severe oasis]

lmao

[sly harness]

And about that, this was my average ed4 draft. Why waste resources on candles when you can get more collectibles (it was for some Tournament tasks but still more than enough to clear d15 ed4)

[severe oasis]

why eunectes

[sly harness]

Tournament stuff

You can swap Eunectes and Heidi for Matterhorn and Purestream

[severe oasis]

oh wait were you using her and heidi for the 1 block challenge

[sly harness]

Yep

And grave isn't needed too normal

[severe oasis]

whats may for there

[sly harness]

She is enough for landholdings and kills Dragons when they are flying

[gaunt bay]

rose cat

meow

[gaunt bay]

Yeah but why her in particular

[sly harness]

The 0/1 base block operator blocking of the small boss

You can do it easily with some collectibles for block count. But the Eunectes thing was some relicless solutions

[gaunt bay]

Eunectech

[sweet moth]

how do we feel about old fan in is2?

[cursive verge]

Show drafts

[patent harness]

whose worth drafting in is6

[cursive verge]

Hoshi2 and naran feom here
But if your roster is new and has limited ops you make do with what you have

For is6, pinned guide suggests trag borrpw start, since he can duo yii with gravel

[woeful scaffold]

dumb question
how to ed2 with boats but no vg

[patent harness]

my gravel is e1 lv1

[cursive verge]

Borrow a gravel asw ig

You can borrow more than 1 in IS iirc

[remote badger]

suffer

[patent harness]

i think the option disappeared after i borrowed trag

[rough thorn]

how hard it is for ed2 boss on is3 without the relic which decrease his deff by 80%

[cursive verge]

[remote badger]

stalling gameplay

[rough thorn]

dude got 4k deff, and my luck with encounter is ass , so i think im cooked

[rough thorn]

his p2 cant be blocked

[remote badger]

did i mean blocking

[rough thorn]

and how you gonna stall him? slow him down , i only got orchid

oh wait , acctualy i got pramtler on e1

[patent harness]

i can get gravel to e1 lv45 !

[cursive verge]

Should be enough

Hopefulky shes sl7 too

[patent harness]

i hope

[patent harness]

i can get her to sl7

[sly harness]

Depending on the draft and Collectibles, I was once able to cope with it with Sniper/Medic

Firstly Gravel was dying so I wasn't gaining DP but later when Theresis was further Gravel was able to tank the balls and retreating her allowed me to be DP positive (also I leaked 2 balls to get more DP). Finally I had enough DP to afford Kal stall next to the blue box and destroy the important Theresis shadows

[patent harness]

nvm apparently i can i think

who should i borrow after trag then

[rich thorn]

Tragodia and weedy+ange exists

Tragodia is a bad op, literally can answer 70% of the game

[sly harness]

There are a lot more stall starts some of them work mainly on lower difficulties. But those two are probably the easiest

[cursive verge]

No need to anymore

[rich thorn]

And yeah

Fraud knight is not freeze immune

[patent harness]

5 ops is probably better than 4

[rich thorn]

So should be stall/kill with gnosis+sa2 and bunch of redeploy ops

Or even og sa on top

Cuz sa2 gives freeze immune

[sly harness]

Also generally this - DEF collectible has a negative value. It debuffs your Knight and he will easily die. Instead you should always draft some (perma) stall solutions for the Knight

[remote badger]

escorting this fraud with that is a pain

genuinely

[gaunt bay]

mreeow

[remote badger]

mreow

[gaunt bay]

how do i get motivation to play ak

[rich thorn]

Stronghold ends soon

[tribal pulsar]

Depends

[rich thorn]

Next in ~2 month

[tribal pulsar]

Oh yea, Stronghold is ending soon

[gaunt bay]

oh i already did stronghold

[remote badger]

sleep-

[tribal pulsar]

All medals?

[remote badger]

https://tenor.com/view/rals-bruhgette-koopa-gfl-girls-frontline-gif-21184875

[tribal pulsar]

Then I guess read the stories you haven't finished/started

[rich thorn]

Oh yes

Read ak story

[tribal pulsar]

Or grind more IS idk

[sly harness]

Some old stuff about IS3 ed2 by #mymaster

Locks:

Lee can completely afk lock it (with caveats like you need enough dp generation and certain aspd bonuses break the lock)

Cement with stainless s3 turrets can tank it

Metastatic/wavebreaker regular yato can infinitely stall it

Glory pack ebenholtz

Gnosis with freeze extension

Mr nothing (You don't need erato but you do need to micro and cancel his s2 to extend his attack animation for the first 50% hp)

Dorothy

Degenbrecher s2 with sp generation

Crazy how far we got since then, now a single cat does that

Currently we also have Nymph or Ros pillars spam

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[rich thorn]

True

[faint rampart]

ebenholz
approved

[rich thorn]

If only yu was good pick

Could be tp with him and exu2

[tribal pulsar]

Go go gadget global damage

[sly harness]

Yu S3 doesn't work with Wang balls right?

[rich thorn]

It should

Cuz it's arts dmg

[sly harness]

And in theory they are sourced

[gaunt bay]

my goat Lee

[cursive verge]

Hg has confirmed its sourced to wang

And its intentional

[rich thorn]

So, yu s3 works?

For burn spam

[cursive verge]

Looksblike it

[faint rampart]

900 aspd gg lapptop yu

https://tenor.com/view/drooling-emoji-meme-fire-awesome-sauce-woah-gif-14300919575076860590

[rough thorn]

my stall prob mizuki pulling him endlessly on p1 , and the rest left her for pram to deal with , but my pram is e1

[sly harness]

So it was foreshadowed all this time, the slop arts, global burn spam we had until now was only the beginning

[rough thorn]

also just realized now he levitate during p2 , there goes my wis being useless

[quick remnant]

Does picking yaksha fight disable store?

[steel relic]

he doesn't fly

[sly harness]

He is still ground but just unblockable

[sly harness]

No

[charred lake]

is enforcer used for izumik stall

with slowing like ascalon

cuz my ahh getting beat in early is3

[rough thorn]

oh my wis can hit him then , hmm i might thinkin doing s1 stunlock since i got cheeto , and those attk speed relics

[sly harness]

Nah

Use S3

She will get freezed after every hit

With S3 you will at least deal damage

[rough thorn]

how many dmg wis could hit him with 4k deff ?

also i got this slipper relics where i could deploy range unit on low ground tiles

[sly harness]

Looks like 0 relicless

[rough thorn]

[carmine token]

0/minimum without buffs

[sly harness]

In the first phase there are those enemies that will destroy your melee stuff

Retching Broodmother

[rough thorn]

well got that relic which boost phy dmg tsken by enemy for 35%

[sly harness]

It doesn't help if you can't pierce through DEF

[rough thorn]

god dammit i hate rng stuff

[faint rampart]

[sly harness]

~~ unprepared draft ~~

[charred lake]

[crystal niche]

[charred lake]

ill just try weedy start again

[crystal niche]

so what's best way to kill knight

[sly harness]

Lemuen

Then Kal

[faint rampart]

🐈‍⬛ ⌛ ⏳ ⌛ ⏳ ⏳

[rough thorn]

oh well i hope my mizuki can drag him out tirelessly

ill just let wis deal with the mobs

[crystal niche]

just nuke his ass?

[sly harness]

With Angelina or some other Weigh/Pull force modifiers he would

[sly harness]

After securing a perma stall with like Trag

[crystal niche]

does nymph work

[sly harness]

You can also jus Trag solo DPS, it will take 30 minutes or more

[rough thorn]

oh right he weight 5 , god damn overweight mofo

[sly harness]

Yes, needs some SP or slow like Ela mine for perma but is fine

Although not as comfortable as Trag

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

Especially in p2 you can run into issues with other enemies in her range

[patent harness]

is this worth taking

[charred lake]

5s frozen ehhhh

[sly harness]

It is mostly fine

[crystal niche]

if you have any empty slots sure

[sly harness]

Cooks your agents a bit

But the downside overall isn't too bad

[open girder]

Only 11 left now

[gaunt bay]

Do you use s2 or s3 for that

Does it work relicless

[patent harness]

is this worth taking

[sly harness]

S3, you still need to stall but she should be the best DPS against him. Those are relicless + Ela mine numbers

(with base DEF)

[gaunt bay]

Why not s2 btw

[sly harness]

Firstly you can't Ela mine all the time.... Second I have no idea, isn't S3 the only real Lem skill?

@someIS3nerd, please explain

[gaunt bay]

I wonder who said is3 nerd is

[steel relic]

certainly no one real

[charred lake]

gee i wonder

would it be btr to replace weedy with enforcer and ascalon for izumik stall so that i cam exupai start?

[open girder]

It's getting surreally hard to get the last 10 collectibles. Hard rng funfest. it's fine, it's ok

[woeful scaffold]

I actually managed to do it

Was a 245 run

A18

[crystal niche]

[woeful scaffold]

Managed to do ED2 leakless and then the game just decides that I lose

[charred lake]

is is fun

[sly harness]

[crystal niche]

[woeful scaffold]

Quilon oddities 💀

I'm done bruh

Fck 245

[crystal niche]

yesss

[woeful scaffold]

Just when I thought things where going so damn well

[crystal niche]

fuck 245'

[charred lake]

chat i need to know if e2ing ascalon and e1 enforcer is worth

[sly harness]

where your Grand Wish

[crystal niche]

let the hated flow!!

[crystal niche]

e2 asc sure

[sly harness]

you are weedy less?

[woeful scaffold]

Didnt manage to get 1

The game threw me 3 witch craft

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

juat get more damage

Saki would surely solve map2

[crystal niche]

if only that were true

[rough thorn]

pram is the mvp here , that was clutch bro almost got out of her range

[crystal niche]

I am mon3tr less

[charred lake]

yes

[crystal niche]

[charred lake]

i borrow weedy

early is pain

[sly harness]

she really is in theory one of the best map2 DPS

[sly harness]

Lee?

[charred lake]

yes i do

have

[rough thorn]

actually freeze immune talent from sas2 is the true mvp here

[charred lake]

balls

[sly harness]

try lee stall maybe
https://youtu.be/DZmFvRfq0Ec?si=p0ydqKs7MREfNDN7

[crystal niche]

yea even better with mon3tr

[sly harness]

play like we used to play pre M3

[gaunt bay]

This is the part where you draft my goat Krooster

[sly harness]

Eyja2 and Silence (no Eyja is copeabel too)

[crystal niche]

[short anchor]

1st IS run after her event

[broken imp]

chongyue/irene?

[gaunt bay]

Saiki:

[broken imp]

s1? or s3?

[gaunt bay]

3

[crystal niche]

[cunning siren]

How to get to ed2 in is6?

[crystal niche]

get decision

get butterfly

get foot to 50%

then fight foot

[cunning siren]

Decision is the node in the wanderland right

[crystal niche]

[crystal niche]

yes

[cunning siren]

Is ed2 a replacement for floor5 or a floor6

[crystal niche]

ed2 is always f5

[cunning siren]

Right

What is the requirement to get butterfly again

[crystal niche]

30 ingots

[cunning siren]

Was it like have 50 ingots?

Oh ok

And you lose half of it right

[crystal niche]

also if u don't get foot to 50% in a battle before prophecy

then u don't get ed2

[cunning siren]

Ok

[sly harness]

there are two options

• pay 30 Ingots
• gamble
  never pick the second one

[crystal niche]

you...

bad influence

never say the second option

[patent harness]

is this worth for narantuya

[broken imp]

oh ....

budda ....

[earnest shuttle]

then pick the 3rd option when carrying yin shih flask
gamble for lower price

[broken imp]

i killed 1 ... from that map

[final gale]

funny map

[buoyant beacon]

Bruh

Cat

[charred lake]

dogvidia is smth i sont rember seeing in reddit and other stuff

microslop yea

lmao

[charred talon]

I have come here

To flex my luck

On is

[faint rampart]

uh so wheres luck

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

I guess it is about having Hool in account although she is not built

[woeful scaffold]

Ngl I thought jump boating is gonna be difficult but turns out it's kinda easy lol

[buoyant beacon]

2 combat or 1 em and 1 encounter?

[faint rampart]

[earnest shuttle]

em

[sly harness]

Which IS

[buoyant beacon]

#4, I lied too it isn't 1 encounter it's 1 not-combat

[sly harness]

Okay IS4 🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[buoyant beacon]

Em then

[remote badger]

this is dogshit

(yes literally)

would've much better if on pram2

[faint rampart]

*hool

[buoyant beacon]

Lmao, I was in #4 for a week now and she exclusively come out for random caster, twice

Maybe she know I never gonna pick her ass up otherwise

Not bcos she suck fyi, I just hate meta

[buoyant beacon]

Nvm it WAS Encounter

[charred talon]

Idk

Since she

Yk

[remote badger]

lappalt isn't real

must've been hallucinating

[charred talon]

Do you need i show one time

I got ulpianus

For free

Yes, at that time I didn't have him

[remote badger]

hes pretty bad

if u dont have any sp relics

[faint rampart]

ulpipeepo in IS

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[buoyant beacon]

He is exclusively on S2?

[remote badger]

3 ig

[buoyant beacon]

I think his S3 is kinda fine idk

[charred talon]

Bro he help me to clutch

💔

He block boss at that time

Thank god

I also got tromotis

Shit

I forgot her name

Let me find the pic

[buoyant beacon]

Horselonggis?

Osmosis?

Or it's gonna turn out to be trag lmao

[broken imp]

robbing in is6 give not very little ingots ?

[charred talon]

Ros

[buoyant beacon]

Yeah Rosmontis lmao

[charred talon]

Yea got uer

But lost

💔

And i have tradingo soo yk

[buoyant beacon]

No mod α behavior smh

[charred talon]

Yea didn't got her e2

[buoyant beacon]

Her mod α just say you win bro

Very worth 3 mod block

Hehe (nah don't believe stranger)

[charred talon]

E

Ik ik

[buoyant beacon]

It's really good tho

[charred talon]

Her mod is good

But sadly I didn't e2 her

At that time

So i lost

Is understandable

[buoyant beacon]

What difficulty we are talking about here? And which IS?

Got me curious lmao

[charred talon]

Free lappland

[charred talon]

That time is like

3-4 i think

[buoyant beacon]

Ic

[sly harness]

[buoyant beacon]

Yo

Nearl3

[faint rampart]

better luck next time

[charred talon]

Fym by that

[faint rampart]

she suxks

[charred talon]

Idk

She helped me a lot

[buoyant beacon]

Oh cmon she got schizo cats on steriod

[charred talon]

Wat

[buoyant beacon]

Oh we are talking about Lapp2 not Vina

Oh cmon she got schizo dogs on meth

[charred talon]

💔

That run quite suck those

No medic

All i have is the kill to heal

E

[buoyant beacon]

I have to do it, sorry

[buoyant beacon]

More reason why Nearl1 is goated

[broken imp]

how much ingot can you get from robbing shop in is6?

[rich thorn]

fun thing

[buoyant beacon]

Why tho? I think she got enough damage to be up there
Bad skill cycle? Dogwater on E1?

[rich thorn]

you can pre-charge s2 devices cuz they are hp regen

[sly harness]

like 12

[broken imp]

so no where near half of is5

[buoyant beacon]

You got ingot robbing Cannot?

[rich thorn]

it will be a stupid run

[sly harness]

f1-f3 rob can give 6
f4-f6 can give 13

[rich thorn]

with nasti

[buoyant beacon]

When do you rob him in each IS? I think I kinda wanna see shop in F5 in #4 and #6

I think I heard someone say you immidiately rob #5 on F1 from somewhere

[rich thorn]

thats old strat

pre dlc1

[faint rampart]

are you gonna babysit that bum in ed2
for ed3 dont tell me shes a balls killer or something

[buoyant beacon]

That's pretty old lmao

[sly harness]

IS2 - you can't
IS3 - f6
IS4 - f6/f7
IS5 - Lamp f4, nonlamp f6
IS6 - you can f2-f5 for tempo but usually you should f6

[buoyant beacon]

Eh I just dunno man never used her, like at all

[faint rampart]

and compare your caster experience when using hool, nymph, ange, pr*m2🤮

[buoyant beacon]

Nymph is there man 😌

[faint rampart]

goated caster

[buoyant beacon]

Fr fr

[buoyant beacon]

As expect then
Man I robbed him on F5 twice and the stage is so ass I never do it again lmao
Skill issue smh

[rich thorn]

@sly harness is it even mentioned somewhere, what devices not using deployment slots?

[sly harness]

but they usually don't take them

[rich thorn]

then what is tragodia cat?

[sly harness]

but it doesn't take deployment slots

[rich thorn]

classic coding

ulpi mark? summon

trag cat? summon

trag cages? summons

devices? nah, different story

[sly harness]

Wait, what do you mean by taking Deployment Slots? I'm not sure if I understand correctly. You mean Deployment Limit (only Summoners and some exceptions like Kal or Phantom takes them).

[rich thorn]

yes

[earnest shuttle]

does roadblock device count as a summon when deployed ?

[rich thorn]

device not

platform im trying

this thing for sure not buffs platform

BUT

!

it stacks with sp regen buff from nasti

[faint rampart]

reminds me

fuck knight

[paper notch]

i mean everything you said is alr explained by the wording of the relic lowkey tho

[sly harness]

So...

[rich thorn]

it was a cope what platform gets sp

[earnest shuttle]

LOL ?!

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/l-loser-pepe-pepe-the-frog-funny-gif-17819896437701153134

[paper notch]

holy

[earnest shuttle]

New "Just use pram" gif just dropped

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-just-use-weedy-weedy-gif-26448477

[rich thorn]

[sly harness]

There was some strat about pushing enemies to the hole behind the box but apparently it doesn't work with Prama

[faint rampart]

same thought

[earnest shuttle]

i think the hitbox is too big

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603595771287437322/1437312860077162657/eef2f6a5b8d27c3db973dcb3c2b0eda511145481.gif

pram2 is a bad operator

[paper notch]

try blockshifting first to off-center enemies

[rich thorn]

[paper notch]

maybe that works?

[sly harness]

[buoyant beacon]

Ikr he's so hot 😩
||Can't even be true his whole thing is he freeze your ass||

[sly harness]

Next time

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431805645924991109/1507744914023387287/caption.gif

[rich thorn]

just freeze his own ass

make him chill

[remote badger]

i heard that limbus players suffer from him

[buoyant beacon]

Mr. Lee humbling the สุดสาคร wannabe

[buoyant beacon]

I heard Limbus player just suffer

[rich thorn]

no, thats hoyosloppers

[buoyant beacon]

Joke aside tho, suffer from alter gacha is super ass

[sly harness]

IS3 drafts... Also I have an idea for usecase for Vina, baiting ed1 boss attacks in p2

(I have 26 Hope left)

[rich thorn]

now just add gnosis

[buoyant beacon]

Legit usage, immidiate S tier

[rich thorn]

because you already have trag and ange

weedy wer

[buoyant beacon]

Wee-deez-nuts

[earnest shuttle]

there is this stage in is2 that has 5 Guerrilla Herald
I tried to lure them through the bluebox and just get in anyway

[rich thorn]

so they just entered blue box and slapped docta ass?

[buoyant beacon]

Dokutah canonically whole bakery confirmed?

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/donquixote-don-quixote-limbuscompany-limbus-company-preggers-dance-gif-17083226633589275011

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/carmen-project-moon-distort-lobotomy-corporation-gif-3698852749371056132

[rich thorn]

where do you think all enemies what entering blue box dissapear?

[buoyant beacon]

[faint rampart]

@/lukas can we get a jellyfish version where she pushes 30 jfish into blue box 🥹

[buoyant beacon]

Bakery so big it become a maze

[rich thorn]

surely gonna loose the run for a meme

[faint rampart]

for the content bro

[flint token]

Gotta wait for the next sgl

next sgl we go back to is3 frfr

[faint rampart]

300 enemies
300 lp
1 skill ifyky

[rich thorn]

it will be with pram2 ban

and exu2

[patent harness]

is this worth taking

[rich thorn]

not worst tongbao

could be updated in plan too

[patent harness]

is that a yes

[rich thorn]

yes

but needs ofk hit count

if exu2, nobrain pick anyways

[patent harness]

dont have exu2, borrowing trag

[paper notch]

this tongbao has felt like more trouble than it's worth to me

[sly harness]

you can get Megamus from it

[patent harness]

the only 6* im drafting are hoshi2 and naran

[sly harness]

but you will need to upgrade it twice

so it cost more LP than usual

[patent harness]

is this worth!

[earnest shuttle]

pick top option

[flint token]

I usually take it

[sly harness]

not really on f1, better save your ingots to buy something guaranteed in f1 shop

[flint token]

honestly middle option isnt bad but it might cuck your shop

Ofc you can just highroll and be given an ingot relic

[sly harness]

I have more 6* than my squad size

[flint token]

Shu drafter in big IS3

[sly harness]

ed3 healing cope, i want to push the boss

[faint rampart]

teach🧎‍♂️

[cunning karma]

That makes it even worse because you need 2 exchange to swap this shit out

[patent harness]

should i buy these two? ill draft hoshialt later

[flint token]

Mainly try to get your lp down to 1 so you can pass through some doubt nodes
artist shadow is good tho

Advancement is low prio but if your vanguards aint that good you can take it

[patent harness]

i have 0 vanguards to draft

[flint token]

No agent?

[patent harness]

like the free ops?

[flint token]

Preferably the 5 stars agents

[patent harness]

what

what are you talking about

[flint token]

Lukas i dont know how to solve this help

[sly harness]

NM wfu is this Simple (Angelina wasn't used and Lem wasn't very important)

[flint token]

Im assuming the strat here is to pull pompeii down early with trag and burst it down quickly while ccing with cat and sash?

[sly harness]

No

The strat is to stall Pompeii on top until you kill everything else

[flint token]

Oh you said NM not EM

[sly harness]

Tbh I have no idea how to approach EM relicless

[earnest shuttle]

before or after wang banner ?

[patent harness]

which should i take....

[sly harness]

Currently

[earnest shuttle]

I remember bait send the relicless solution in ISC

5 ops or smth

[flint token]

I prefer ros embrace

[remote badger]

embrace

[sly harness]

Wang Chen3

[earnest shuttle]

yea that one

[sly harness]

Tbh Chen3 is the important part

[flint token]

:roshype:

[sly harness]

She can just nuke the top Pompeii and without him this stage is easy

[flint token]

Wait chen3?

Oh the layout actually lines up well

[foggy oriole]

fuck I got trolled by beyond mounts again

the car took too much chip damage

and boom

[patent harness]

do i also prioritize going for the wander into wonderland node on floor 3?

for the bosky shield farm thing

[flint token]

mount and sea still jumping everyone the old fashioned way

[flint token]

Bosky is highest priority

unless you need to do ending stuffs

[patent harness]

okay

[foggy oriole]

is4 mounts and seas is alright I think

ines check

[flint token]

Salter can solve it decently

Though ines is still comfier

[buoyant beacon]

https://x.com/ji_just_ji/status/1662328480535810048?s=46

Ji (@ji_just_ji)

160 minutes...?

X · May 27, 2023, 5:22 AM

New competitive category alert

[patent harness]

<@&586570970345635868>

[flint token]

Oh my fucking god

[foggy oriole]

I think I've had that happen and then all I had to do was relog

and the cooldown was gone

idk why it happens though

[sly harness]

Yep some kind of bug

[buoyant beacon]

Game code was prob smoking Skadi's sweat again

[foggy oriole]

of all the fluids you could have picked you picked sweat

[buoyant beacon]

That's a common degenerate joke idk I never touched whamen

[flint token]

I was gonna said crazy sentence but then i remembered this is #saygex-station and actual demons used to dwell here

[buoyant beacon]

Whoa, damn

In official Arknights Discord??

[faint rampart]

i miss fibrinosenz

[foggy oriole]

is fib not here anymore

[faint rampart]

may he be happy wherever he is

[foggy oriole]

like, I recognise that I also haven't become active here in like 2 years

[faint rampart]

😔

[foggy oriole]

last I was this active was grinding out d15 senti

[buoyant beacon]

You guys remember this dude?

No I mean I don't know anyone here

It's just crazy to pop up 2 years later and people still talk to you like nothing happened

[remote badger]

<@&586570970345635868> omg free robux!!!!

[buoyant beacon]

Mod eep?

[remote badger]

his ass sometimes pop up

[buoyant beacon]

Time to finally get free robux man

[foggy oriole]

people still talk to each other like strangers on the internet talk to each other, nothing's changed lol

[remote badger]

senz still pop up at some time in the day

[foggy oriole]

is kermit still alive

[remote badger]

hes is

as always

[faint rampart]

wearing new skins everyday

[buoyant beacon]

Based tbh

[remote badger]

buuuuuuut diffierent name each day

[foggy oriole]

I would be concerned if kermit somehow quit

[remote badger]

he wont

[patent harness]

yay or nay

[buoyant beacon]

Concerned he will get a j*b?

[remote badger]

put your run on a bet then think

[patent harness]

k

[remote badger]

he alr

[foggy oriole]

always gamble trust
definitely won't roll -10 for an entire minute straight

(I have had that happen, not fun)

[buoyant beacon]

That's a joke

All of us have a job obviously

[foggy oriole]

I have a job

[remote badger]

lukas the unemployed

[foggy oriole]

job title: endministrator

😭

[remote badger]

im undefined

[buoyant beacon]

I am certified knights towel

I lick them clean after a duel

[foggy oriole]

[buoyant beacon]

...is that too freaky? Dammit I shouldn't do a joke lmfao

[remote badger]

the certain stuff im doing rn is AI training

making the AI pilled with IS contents

[foggy oriole]

for beyond mounts usually do you kill waves separately because when wrangling all 3 waves at once I usually end up accidentally breaking the car with chip damage

[remote badger]

just do not decompress left

[rich thorn]

usually you just kill cars when they are full

on the left ye

they can do 2 cycles before entering central blue boxes

[foggy oriole]

wdym on the left

[rich thorn]

sorry, right

[foggy oriole]

I thought you're supposed to kill cars center or right

yeah

killing car on left is asking for -50 bro

[rich thorn]

nah

its either -4 or -20

or 16

[sly harness]

Like this

https://youtu.be/MD5atqRDa6Q?is=2bLcuSvkHjUH-d37

[rich thorn]

for a car

[rich thorn]

em harder btw

[crystal niche]

this ain

em right

I'm strugglin on em bro

[rich thorn]

at normal at least you can place someone at left

[sly harness]

You can spawn camp the middle red boxes with Raidian S2

[sly harness]

The same thing

[rich thorn]

at em they gonna be killed with red dogs throwers

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

The only difference is that for EM you place a defender to bait hits from range enemies when you break the cars

[rich thorn]

but after that, its almost same

[foggy oriole]

thank god I never had to do em

[sly harness]

https://youtu.be/SWAjwu8nJQQ?is=Ew2yaKsRKAzWPmhB

[rich thorn]

why

[sly harness]

Here EM

[rich thorn]

its fun

[crystal niche]

constant change

[foggy oriole]

I always have some kind of node reset tongbao just so I can skip f6 em

because I hate all of them

also holy shit surfer usage

[rich thorn]

other 3 maps are way easier

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

even on EM

[sly harness]

Surfer is meta since IS5

[rich thorn]

and cantable

[ripe summit]

Guys. If you invest Originium on the trade on whichever IS. is it RNG that you bust?

[foggy oriole]

you see

[remote badger]

rng

[foggy oriole]

this is what I get for not playing IS for like 2 years

I didn't even know surfer draft is a thing

[rich thorn]

its a thing because we are at aspd environment

[ripe summit]

Thank goodness I know it 2 weeks playing IS

[flint token]

Surfer is also easier to get maximum value out of than canta

[rich thorn]

so agents on s1 can print dp way better than flagbearers

[flint token]

cuz canta loses out on some dp when blocking

[rich thorn]

and ofk ines exists

on s2 or s3

[foggy oriole]

ever since coming back I've been using sneg

[rich thorn]

she is bad for that

[ripe summit]

not the best pick but there are worse so

[rich thorn]

same as why other agents - puzzle and chilchuck are not used

not scaling with aspd for fast dp printer

🥀

they welp, actually scale

[ripe summit]

200 ASPD from ingots while using Surfer. Infinite DP

[rich thorn]

but its 0.5 bucks vs 10 bucks

[remote badger]

the most recent usecase is like ccb3 lol

[rich thorn]

cuz dp regen debuff ye?

[sly harness]

The Chilchuck in IS5 ed5 relicless attempts

[rich thorn]

cant remember if there was sp debuff

[sly harness]

Puzzle is used in RA

[rich thorn]

we talked about IS btw

[sly harness]

[ripe summit]

Why is there no RA channel tho?

[rich thorn]

better say me, hows new IS modules

[paper notch]

what if i puzzle in is5

[rich thorn]

it exists

just check in channels and roles

[sly harness]

#reclamation-algorithm-hub

[remote badger]

https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/1270808130195816478

[sly harness]

[foggy oriole]

can somebody tell me why surfer over alternatives though
all agents scale well with aspd, I just need to know why surfer scales better

[paper notch]

they gave global range to typhon s2 and made spalter into a ground silence2

[remote badger]

the ancients fell into their slumbers

[ripe summit]

Not on my channel list. Thanks guys. I added it

[paper notch]

if that doesnt sound particularly apealling, it's because it isnt

[rich thorn]

iknow what they do, i mean pick rate and perfomance

[paper notch]

mmmmmmmm

[ripe summit]

sorry. I accidentally left the replied

[crystal niche]

is typhon ANY more relevant

[rich thorn]

so i can just use my piss certs to fund wang pulls

or buy typhoon

[ripe summit]

on IS4 maybe

[desert brook]

it costs less early on?

[crystal niche]

never fund the homeless man smh that's ur #1 mistake

I thought u were better than this kamael

[sly harness]

Surfer and Canta are almost similar but Surfer DP gen with her Talent is more frontal where Canta can catch up over time (assuming they are hitting something through the entire skill duration)

[rich thorn]

but that fat tail man have portable nuclear bombs

[foggy oriole]

canta s1 right

[rich thorn]

[crystal niche]

🥹

just

[foggy oriole]

and I assume surfer also s1

[crystal niche]

forget his existence

[sly harness]

Both S1

[ripe summit]

I dunno bout that

[rich thorn]

no

[foggy oriole]

ye ok

[rich thorn]

I pulled nasti

so i need at least pull on banner

[crystal niche]

how much

[rich thorn]

for chen3 toilet flush

[rich thorn]

13

🤣

[crystal niche]

bru

ori over there cryin

[ripe summit]

bruh

[sly harness]

Surfer S2 also scales well with ASPD and can be used in a situation like the IS5 Bosky relic with freez on deployment

[crystal niche]

holy interdependent, wu shang, lei fa on f2

[ripe summit]

If I skip Wang and Chen3. Any future operator worth expecting? or are we just empty?

[rich thorn]

was bored at last run, but it was f3 middle with lei fa and bells

🫃

[sly harness]

Don't skip Wang

[crystal niche]

I don't have bells currently smh

[rich thorn]

nothing till either kal2 or collab so far

[sly harness]

The next limited banner has some potential too

[rich thorn]

and next banner is chen3 too

she is good

[ripe summit]

Not getting with my measly 20 pulls is the best advice given to me

[rich thorn]

save

and 1-7 farm

[paper notch]

you can get around 100 pulls from now to wang

[ripe summit]

a what farm???

[paper notch]

and you get around 24 from wang itself

[sly harness]

But Wang is the new strongest banner in the game

[rich thorn]

rocks farm

[ripe summit]

Stop the cap

[rich thorn]

what turns into pulls

[paper notch]

124 pulls is still a good chance at getting wang

[rich thorn]

its like, bonus 150-200 each day

[paper notch]

in 2 months that's the amount you can get ye

[rich thorn]

originium

[paper notch]

using gold cert on pulls obviously

but yeah

[ripe summit]

what is this rock farm?? You mean base trading rock?

[rich thorn]

yeah

you basically

use all sanity on 1-7

[ripe summit]

are people really doing that?

[rich thorn]

yes

[paper notch]

either someone who isnt building many new units or someone desperate

[rich thorn]

its like, most cost efficient way to get some pulls

[paper notch]

sooo

[buoyant beacon]

Oh for fuck's sake

[paper notch]

pretty sure it's more cost efficient to level 3* to e1 lvl 55 than to orundum farm

[rich thorn]

or you already finished all what you want

[buoyant beacon]

That was a good run wth

[rich thorn]

so welp, waste sp

[ripe summit]

been getting my good run vanish in an instant

[buoyant beacon]

I was in this shit for 4 years now, I had it too

[rich thorn]

im low on resources, but in same time already finished m9 trag

[buoyant beacon]

Not gonna make me not mad on this one lmao

[rich thorn]

just for d18 is5

and literally no goals, if not only mid or shitty operator modules

[buoyant beacon]

I survived? HOW

W code

No spaghetti just peak coding

[crystal niche]

holy interdependent, wu shang, lei fa, stove on f2

[faint rampart]

expecting 300 relics winscreen

[crystal niche]

uh I'm not doin anythin special

I'm just trynna get my invesment to 999

[faint rampart]

👨‍🍼

[crystal niche]

and my highest count is below 200

bro expecting 300 from me

[cursive verge]

Min 300 or delete account

[crystal niche]

[cursive verge]

Nasti
Titi
Thorns2
Tfn

2 months left before wang

Hmm

[crystal niche]

tfn??

[paper notch]

the one where you fight different bosses

and it pans to different parts of the map

you get some buffs as well

Trials for Navigator

[cursive verge]

Whats rhe f2p monthly pull calc without intel certs

[paper notch]

thought this one is pretty cool

[cursive verge]

[strong kestrel]

Wowowowow first time doing blueprint + lamp of wishes + 1hp is5 run. This is bonkers af

[cursive verge]

We will be waiting for your d18 clear screen

[buoyant beacon]

God damn they don't have to scream they're gay at me like that lmfao

Not picking Exu2 will hurt me 😔

[faint rampart]

you want it

[remote badger]

unnesscary messes

i just saw

[buoyant beacon]

I don't pick her here cos she's probably too much for #4

I mean I hate meta but if I'm on D15 I'm not gonna be that bitchy lmao

[broken imp]

how to deal with this map without a starting DP reliec?

[buoyant beacon]

How much do you get naturally here?

I think around 15-ish?

[crystal niche]

10

prob to 13

but def not up to 15

[buoyant beacon]

I mean 13 is fine, I can think of someone I can drop on 13

10 tho

[sly harness]

You can deploy operators that cost up to 11 DP relicless

So Liberators (with p2) for example

And they can kill the DP snipers allowing you to either follow up with other units or just leave and come back to finish the fight on your second attempt without the most annoying enemy

[broken imp]

leizi e1 enough?

wait how

she does not hit thru wall no?

[sly harness]

https://youtu.be/qoXsggbiAUA?is=Slee0IsfzIOwhnUO

[buoyant beacon]

Lmfao

Leizi on her way to make walls actually a problem

[sly harness]

Texas simulates p2 there

With p6 it is even easier because you can instantly deploy her... But p6

[broken imp]

p2 what

you mean pot?

[sly harness]

Yes

p2w game

[buoyant beacon]

Fr pot sound really ass

But people are using it and welp

It's public opinion ig

[crystal niche]

😭

pay to win smh

pots for relicless smh

[sly harness]

The ed2 collectible can help a lot because with it you can have someone cost 0 DP (you can for example take only 1 unit into the stage to force the 0 DP cost on them)

But for that you will need to find the Decision node early

Raidian with 0 DP cost summons also works

Or the woodwheel collectible that gives starting DP should have high priority if you see it anywhere

[buoyant beacon]

It's really scary how often Raidian's summon cost 0 in my normie run

[rich thorn]

thats just not so common summon relics

🥀

[sly harness]

Common if you get all collectibles from the pool in your runs

[rich thorn]

but what if

we run class squad without cocoon shit

[sly harness]

You can do cocoon shit in class squads

[rich thorn]

thats why I said without it

[sly harness]

~~Skill issue ~~

[rich thorn]

skill issue is if run failed when you already have stacked stir fry/bells/drums

[calm silo]

Hi, any tips abt how to deal with second phase theresis in IS#5?

[rich thorn]

[sly harness]

True damage

[rich thorn]

have monsta recruited

or kal

[sly harness]

Amiya caster works too

[buoyant beacon]

That's why it scared me lmfao

[calm silo]

I dont have both monsta and kal

[rich thorn]

its its ass on d18?

[calm silo]

But maybe amiya is a good idea

[sly harness]

No

[rich thorn]

gonna see too many boats

[desert brook]

i opened with cantabile and a little atk spd (less than 50 i think)

was enough to place other ops

[sly harness]

Chalice + Kings like 2/3 cycles him (with Karma)

[calm silo]

Medic amiya skill 2 not enough i suppose?

[remote badger]

for what

[rich thorn]

cycle???? but s2 is 1 time use

[sly harness]

Caster

[rich thorn]

oh

[sly harness]

Amiya Caster S3

[rich thorn]

it exists

[buoyant beacon]

Smh

[sly harness]

And is very useful in IS5

[buoyant beacon]

Really?

Damn how did ya all optimize that shit

[calm silo]

Can i just pull theresis from theresa to get resists down? And who can do that

[sly harness]

Early Catastrophies Epoch solution and used in boss stages as DPS

[rich thorn]

and you can change her class during runs

🥹

[sly harness]

Mizuki S3

[broken imp]

blazeter good in 6?

[sly harness]

No

[rich thorn]

no

she is bad in any content

[earnest shuttle]

VEC 2

[crystal niche]

[buoyant beacon]

I mean I pick her all the time, but I don't optimize shit I activate S3 and she spent the entire skill on 50 dogs

[sly harness]

You can also use Shu (if you have her skill 3 up and she marks him right before phase transition she will teleport him back)

[rich thorn]

or eh

gladiia

for a lil bit moving his ass

[desert brook]

crazy tech

[calm silo]

I guess it will be simplier to just use amiya caster

[sly harness]

Or Bring Angelina and do it in one pull

[buoyant beacon]

Ange W

[calm silo]

Because i dont have anyone of the ops u talking

[sly harness]

Amiya works very well, you can also cope with stuff like Vina but idk

[broken imp]

huh where these guys get invinsible from

[sly harness]

EM condition

[calm silo]

I thought vina dont have any good uses, should i raise her for that?

[earnest shuttle]

not really

[crystal niche]

just use sashter

[sly harness]

Nah Amiya is better

[remote badger]

vina is a cope before m3

[earnest shuttle]

Shes good when shes free in your run

[remote badger]

gvg stuffs

[broken imp]

yea sure let me get him out of nowhere

[sly harness]

Just block

[calm silo]

Also i suppose i must raise this welfare guy if i want to play IS 5 comfortly?

[crystal niche]

[broken imp]

cant block

[calm silo]

For the mental toil

[broken imp]

got freezed

and got stunned from attacking

[buoyant beacon]

Bruh, his name is Tin Man and you will respect him 😡

[calm silo]

I respect him, i just forgot his name, sorry 😭

[buoyant beacon]

I don't think he's crazy in optimized run, but as a normie I cried when he doesn't show up before 4th floor

[sly harness]

Only relevant if you play a lot and Lampless, not that important if you play with Lamp

[calm silo]

Tbh toil limit seems too small so i thought that he must have for this

[broken imp]

what debuff did i get that make me get stunned when i attack enemy?

[earnest shuttle]

Hour of Sui

[buoyant beacon]

People dgaf about toll limit in optimized run afaik

[earnest shuttle]

forgot the name

Mao Lü

[calm silo]

It hurts when u carrying stuff for pledge of babel and a lot of lingerers or other things

[buoyant beacon]

Bruh you all remember the debuff name??

[earnest shuttle]

no I just use a technique called open google and search

[sly harness]

I only remember Wu-Shang because it is the worst

[topaz gazelle]

What is usually the use case difference between choosing luo xiaohei or wildscoot alongside Radian and Pure stream, or does it not matter

[buoyant beacon]

I do remember only the Wu-Shang name too wth

[calm silo]

What is it doing?

[broken imp]

hour of sui is the positive one no?

[earnest shuttle]

uhh no

theres like 1 positive one

and its useless most of the time

[desert brook]

theyre all called hour of sui

[sly harness]

Always Windscoot

[broken imp]

first time meeting this one

so annoying

[sly harness]

Luo is used for example with Trag because you want some block

[calm silo]

Oh i had this but it doesnt trigger even once

[topaz gazelle]

What do you use windscoot for? I haven't used him before so I'm not very knowledgeable. Is it just early game damage?

[crystal niche]

yan

[earnest shuttle]

Ch'en hour is pretty good imo

[buoyant beacon]

Yup, exactly the part where they dgaf I'm talking about
They're so unbothered they abuse HP loss to enable King Relics and HG have to update MORE penalty on overweight
And I'm not sure about this part but if I'm right they still don't really care and do the same shit anyway lmfao

[topaz gazelle]

Luo xiaohei is also Yan tho

[earnest shuttle]

Ur ops is black and thats it

[sly harness]

And damage + clears Statuegeist

There is an f1 playlist

All f1 EM stages on d18 Raidian + Windscoot + Sussurro (takes all Statuegeist, everything leakless)

[buoyant beacon]

Damn, all chest too

Kudos to them maker man, worth 20 of my respect

[earnest shuttle]

sussuro and not purestream ?
because her healing is what made this leakless ?

[sly harness]

Sussurro is d18/very optimized pick (usually Purestream is fine too)

[earnest shuttle]

oh okay

[wet zealot]

How cooked am I for IS6 ed2 if I have 11LP ? 😭

[sly harness]

There are some matchups (F2 Pathfinder fight for example) where Purestream isn't enough

[earnest shuttle]

cant leak left side

[desert brook]

depends on draft

[calm silo]

Im not going for hp loss just because of king relics, but when u getting some things like "Rarity +2 after the floor", that cost 5, its already more than my toil limit for second floor

[remote badger]

hp loss is fine

gtfo the comfort zone now

[desert brook]

prolly want wis s2 so she can deal with left side

[wet zealot]

I'm thinking Hoshi S2, Mon3tr and Wis rn

[earnest shuttle]

is this d15 ?

[wet zealot]

d10