how do you lose that boss actually
#is-station
long tundra
I had Portrait of Breogan and didn't know what she did.
floral plaza
damn i would like this in f5
gaunt bay
No those are stinklines
long tundra
I had Portrait of Breogan and didn't know what she did.
(Went in mostly blind because I forgot what she did in Trials for Navigator.)
floral plaza
i like how in story knight still win the fight after you do the ending then isharmla come and he go 1v1
:icant:
flint token
wait i thought we winning was just him getting bored then left
floral plaza
pretty sure he hit mizuki then look at ocean see ishar and yolo
slender sphinx
I'm taking on IS6 ED2 finally, what are the rules to the dragon foot location spawn within a map? I know how to get the ED2 activated and about the butterfly relic, I'm talking about how the foot chooses to spawn within maps.
My guess is that it's about the foot spawning on the spot where the highest concentration of operators is found in the stage, and it doesn't spawn with just one operator? Or it spawns when you deploy the operator with the highest attack or DP cost in your squad? I noticed the foot relocates if you undeploy some operators as well.
severe oasis
I'm taking on IS6 ED2 finally, what are the rules to the dragon foot location sp...
it targets highest density of operators in a 3x3 area. if all operators are equal density (e.g if no operator on the map has another operator in their surrounding 8 tiles), itll target closest to bottom of the map > closest to left of the map
well not just operators, summons count too
basically if u just have all operators equal space apart from eachother and then put someone in the bottom left, itll always target them
late pecan
Exu2 and Raidian solves ED2 alone 
(but having a medic helps just in case). Wisadel s3 unironically trolls you in that ED2
slate hull
it still has to target a specific operator, it can't target empty tiles, so the 3x3 explanation is a bit inaccurate
severe oasis
i dont see how i implied otherwise
late pecan
it still has to target a specific operator, it can't target empty tiles, so the ...
Well, if there's nothing on the map, how's the boss gonna target anyone in 3x3?
slender sphinx
it targets highest density of operators in a 3x3 area. if all operators are equa...
oooooooh, I see. I deployed my Myrtle and waited, and waited, and nothing showed up for several seconds. Then the foot signaled the drop once I placed two ops together, so I had the idea that it was crowd number related. Thank you for the info. 
remote badger
i dont see how i implied otherwise
meow
severe oasis
meow
late pecan
oooooooh, I see. I deployed my Myrtle and waited, and waited, and nothing showed...
You have Raidian for ED2, it's easy to bait the boss. The only problem is needing enough LP to intentionally leak multiple funny flaming spear guy that splits into bajillion pieces upon death, which spawns on the left side of the map.
slender sphinx
basically if u just have all operators equal space apart from eachother and then...
If a new section of the map becomes more crowded than the spot the foot initially chose, does the foot choose the new more crowded spot as a new location?
severe oasis
dont need to leak left side if you have a lot of hitcount
severe oasis
If a new section of the map becomes more crowded than the spot the foot initiall...
yeah, it can swap as much as it wants until the timer is up
late pecan
dont need to leak left side if you have a lot of hitcount
That is also true but there's the foot to deal with.
Unless....
slender sphinx
yeah, it can swap as much as it wants until the timer is up
that's messed up lol
severe oasis
do you have both raidian and exu2?
late pecan
Hmm, how does Ethan or Ascalon do by themselves for solo-ing the left side and baiting the boss in the middle with Exu2 and Raidian summon?
severe oasis
Hmm, how does Ethan or Ascalon do by themselves for solo-ing the left side and b...
neither of them can solo it
maybe ascalon can with lots of relics
slender sphinx
You have Raidian for ED2, it's easy to bait the boss. The only problem is needin...
I'm going in blind to whatever the boss is, I only remembered the foot from the spoiler footage when the IS6 expansion was announced lol
late pecan
neither of them can solo it
Welp, better to leak than to place ops for hitcount and messing with the foot's targeting?
severe oasis
they shouldnt bait it if they arent on the bottom tile
late pecan
I'll have to figure out the placements later
severe oasis
pram2 s1 can solo it
late pecan
Pram2 s2 or s1?
late pecan
Oooh, I only have Pra2 s2m3 and s3m3
severe oasis
you dont need masteries
late pecan
Oh wow, that's nice. I might consider drafting her
severe oasis
shes the best caster pick anyway
slender sphinx
do you have both raidian and exu2?
yeah, I do, I've only encountered the foot twice, I wanted to know how the foot worked so that I could choose spawn location. I will see try proper playthroughs and see how I tackle it, thank you
severe oasis
yeah, I do, I've only encountered the foot twice, I wanted to know how the foot ...
this setup can essentially duo the entire stage, using exu's skill for the shield whenever the boss spawns
summon in middle baits boss
late pecan
this setup can essentially duo the entire stage, using exu's skill for the shiel...
This one is from the IS guide I assume
severe oasis
either leak the left if you have 18 or more LP, or try your best to deal with it
severe oasis
This one is from the IS guide I assume
no i just went to prts.map and put it together in 5 sec
late pecan
How do you get that map editor? Where u can place ops on specific stage
severe oasis
but its a common placement
late pecan
Oh nice thank you
severe oasis
desert brook
this setup can essentially duo the entire stage, using exu's skill for the shiel...
-17 🔥
severe oasis
if you get pram2 and like 1 other hitcount op for when shes fucking dead, it wont be -17!
desert brook
nice that leaking is a decent strat in is6 because stacking shield is so easy
i love my beyond mount and sea -10
late pecan
if you get pram2 and like 1 other hitcount op for when shes fucking dead, it won...
Oh I forgot about cycling hitcount ops
severe oasis
i love my beyond mount and sea -10
only -10?
desert brook
yeah
severe oasis
desert brook
when you kill the initial enemies + statues and cars then only 10 enemies will run into blue box
makes the stage really easy when you have more than 10 lp
severe oasis
to let the cars pick up EVERY enemy, you dont wanna kill the initial ones, right?
for leakless
deft breach
Is there a pathfinder node in floor 6 for wang ending?
desert brook
yeah afaik
which is annoying because you do so much damage you hit the initial cars on the right and they just combust
so its easier for me to just not worry about it
severe oasis
thats fair
late pecan
i love my beyond mount and sea -10
desert brook
if you get pram2 and like 1 other hitcount op for when shes fucking dead, it won...
btw do ppl use pram s2 or s3 for ed2
late pecan
it's s1
severe oasis
s1 for normal ed2
desert brook
wait really
severe oasis
and i think s2 for alternate but idt she even matters much there
desert brook
ive been using her rlly wrong theb
severe oasis
i can see s2 working with help though anyway
but since shes going to die no matter what eventually, and theres a charge up time
you'd rather just use s1
desert brook
i gotta try s1 next time
severe oasis
i think beyond mount and sea is like the only other stage besides ed2 that pram s1 is good in
arctic panther
wait really
dont sleep on s1 
severe oasis
then ofc it cooks hard in is3
slate hull
s1 is like a mini avalanche, it is pretty neat
severe oasis
i think that was definitely the design intention
arctic panther
i think beyond mount and sea is like the only other stage besides ed2 that pram ...
will probably be goated in the upcoming yan cc assuming the statuegeists are there
severe oasis
its so similar to the event mechanic lmao
desert brook
nah, -8 <:DocSmile:1213036172524126240>
end of times tech (idk if is6 has this relic)
arctic panther
if only it did true damage if it pushed enemies into the wall 
arctic panther
end of times tech (idk if is6 has this relic)
it does
severe oasis
i gotta try s1 next time
also itll always push enemies in the direction pram is facing, unlike most push skills. so stuff behind her will get "pulled" towards her
pretty good skill
long tundra
then ofc it cooks hard in is3
I should have tried it against Izumik, hmm.
long tundra
No Push Force increase.
arctic panther
even though s1 masteries suck
masteries let you helidrop with s1
severe oasis
I should have tried it against Izumik, hmm.
she essentially just solo stalls the left side lmao
both top and bottom left lane
at the same time
iirc she needs SOME sp boost to truly solo stall, but i could be wrong
can also just use a ela mine
long tundra
Whenever Hand of Flowing Water appears in the shop I get sad I can't use it on her.
Though, I'm surprised that Light of Wisdom and Learning are as strong as they are.
arctic panther
This would be so awesome if i had pram2
pram2 start 
arctic panther
it always works cause prams just goated like that 
desert brook
should i do pram s1 or s3 mastery first
long tundra
S3, S1 Masteries aren't really that significant.
desert brook
oh yeah her s1 masteries are really bad wtf
arctic panther
should i do pram s1 or s3 mastery first
s3
arctic panther
oh yeah her s1 masteries are really bad wtf
m9 her anyway. 
glacial socket
i keep getting this type of squads just to not end up getting the decision node, any tips on getting the decision node?
desert brook
this run is going
glacial socket
this run is going
getting tragodia?
desert brook
i keep getting this type of squads just to not end up getting the decision node,...
do nodes that path to the most nodes so you can explore the entire bosky
desert brook
getting tragodia?
i dont have trag
my only useful supporters are ange and raidian i think
glacial socket
do nodes that path to the most nodes so you can explore the entire bosky
type of shit i get
desert brook
thats fucked up
glacial socket
i can't clear the doubt node im unlucky with coin toss then i need ot have less than 15 currency
verbal shadow
glacial socket
yeah the decision is that one node top left after the turmoil
i already finished the run
and its not a decision ndoe
when i do get the decision node, i just end up messing up my setup on the sui boss
desert brook
surely playing tianshi will work
glacial socket
surely
inland elbow
agile spruce
just did a run and didn't get a single medic voucher 
I got no supports that can heal too so was double hecked
gaunt bay
Meow!
verbal shadow
meow
arctic panther
this run is going
pram start is real 
cursive verge
just did a run and didn't get a single medic voucher <:dead:1260151581677191199>
Do you skip battles a lot
desert brook
e2 candleguest pram on f1
agile spruce
Do you skip battles a lot
nah, I only skipped like a quarter of them
and that's bc of better options than battles were there
cursive verge
Do you skip turmoils
agile spruce
I got like 4 guard, 1 def, a few casters, 2-3 special, 2 supports, 2 vangaurds, 2 ranged
agile spruce
Do you skip turmoils
the bosky battles? only if I know I can't do them in one try. In that run I did 2 though
agile spruce
my only candleguests were wisadel and ulpianus
desert brook
are you not conserving vouchers or something 
agile spruce
I am 
I had 4/4 conserved on boss battle
desert brook
I am <:kek:1260318030496268389> I had 4/4 conserved on boss battle
wait so are you like, using the conserved vouchers at all
agile spruce
by the time I find pathfinder, I either don't have enough hope, don't have the right vouchers, or both
cursive verge
So you skipped pathfinders too
agile spruce
ye my luck is just that bad
cursive verge
Why are you conserving vouchers you have no use for
agile spruce
well I had a use for them but no resources
and the defender was so I could get discount defender
since I had none
cursive verge
How does 'dont have right voucher' happen then
agile spruce
had like 2 guard, 1 def conserved, kept using the guard got a ranged and used it for wis
desert brook
gummy is 0 hope tho
agile spruce
iirc I got another guard then a support and conserved them, so had 1 def, 1 guard, 1 supprt in the bank
cursive verge
Do you have a ss of your drafts
agile spruce
nah I ended the run a while ago
cursive verge
I have a feeling you wasted hope on some bsd drafts
agile spruce
squad was raidian, entel something (vamp), ulpianus, wisadel, silverash alt, cuora, amiya, blaze alt, spectre, projekt red
desert brook
past f1
maybe im weird, i abuse conserved vouchers a lot up to f3, and i keep conserving vouchers for new draft if i dont have enough hope
cursive verge
I have a feeling you wasted hope on some bsd drafts
I am a prophet (well thid wasnt hard)
agile spruce
which ones were bad
oh wait
spectre wasn't alt
I picked her up in the end for boss stalling
cursive verge
maybe im weird, i abuse conserved vouchers a lot up to f3, and i keep conserving...
Past f1 you go for special fight/lighting throygh face-off but thats beside the point here
Even with the common method of conserving past f1 this shouldnt have happened
agile spruce
did a turmoil on wonder node before boss, didn't get medic but got a guard
desert brook
squad was raidian, entel something (vamp), ulpianus, wisadel, silverash alt, cuo...
wait hold up, you didnt have a defender so you conserved a def voucher but you have cuora?
agile spruce
wait hold up, you didnt have a defender so you conserved a def voucher but you h...
cuora was d1 pick, then I sent her to the scroll
amiya was also in scroll, just those two
desert brook
oh yeah
agile spruce
I was going to bank of shu or hoshi alt for some extra survivability, but it just never aligned properly
desert brook
i mean you could still draft gummy 0 hope
agile spruce
nah, should've clarified defender + survival. Defending alone was fine with ulpi and sa alt
preferably defender + heals
cursive verge
squad was raidian, entel something (vamp), ulpianus, wisadel, silverash alt, cuo...
Raidian was good
Ente too
Wisadel too
Ulpianus uh okay ig
Sa2 is uhhh depends on how you ised him
I doubt your amiya is raised so I will count her bad
Blaze alt was a waste of hope and vouchers
Same for specter and p red
desert brook
Past f1 you go for special fight/lighting throygh face-off but thats beside the ...
i see, probably gonna try the candleguest fights more
agile spruce
Raidian was good
Ente too
Wisadel too
Ulpianus uh okay ig
Sa2 is uhhh depends on...
amiya was guard, d1 pick bc limited hope/options.
SA2 was on skill 2 spamming frost for the slow/freeze then paired with ulpi and projekt red for heli damage
occasionally ente too but she mainly didn't get redeployed
wis, amiya, and cuora were my starting pics
cursive verge
Dont draft p red for heli damage
Just stick with ulpianus if you have to play that way
Actually
agile spruce
what about the redeploy timer
cursive verge
Do you even know how to use sa2 s2 with ulpianus
cursive verge
Chat how to play is5
There should be a guide in pins here
agile spruce
pretty sure I do. use the skill twice so ulpi will launch the burst twice, plop ulpi down on s3, anchor drop and frost burst
even better is the 2 skill charges can also hit enemies before ulpi goes to the field
cursive verge
Do you time it well
subtle moss
Ive read the guide someone send me and im pretty sure its from help premium but i still dont understand the premise of lamp
cursive verge
Like iirc you get 3-4 seconds and need to pause deploy or some shit to pull it off
desert brook
yoy get 1.1s i think
agile spruce
define timing well 
everything dies when I do it so I'd assume ye
desert brook
and ulpi skill charges in 1s
subtle moss
And i watched some run and they deliberately drop to 1hp to get king relic from lamp?
desert brook
so you have 100ms window to hit the skill
cursive verge
Ysah 3-4s seemed a bit too much
desert brook
also if you get an initial sp relic it bricks ulpi sa2 apparently
because if you use ulpi skill too fast he doesnt do the sa2 swings
agile spruce
oh you mean to have the frost launch on ulpi's anchor drop position?
desert brook
cursive verge
define timing well <:SusSip:944387867642298468> everything dies when I do it so ...
Do you see the schwings when ulpi redploys himself with the anchor
agile spruce
nah, I usually do schwings first then ulpi anchor
cursive verge
agile spruce
bc of all the turns the schwings would've missed otherwise
or just hit 1/4th the target
cursive verge
So you cannot time it well
cursive verge
And i watched some run and they deliberately drop to 1hp to get king relic from ...
Yup
With lamp you can get some realy good relics if you trigger their conditions
agile spruce
what's a good 5 star caster
cursive verge
You can play without that encounter too
agile spruce
preferably for starting picks
subtle moss
I guess ill play first
cursive verge
what's a good 5 star caster
Amiya but is she raised
Also you usually domt draft 5 stars
cursive verge
Its either free drafts or 6 stars most of the time
agile spruce
Amiya but is she raised
ye, if I choose amiya I normally use a friend's raised
cursive verge
Acrually
cursive verge
Amiya's selling point is being able to help with turmoils raidian cant solo
So if you arent going that route amiya is probably useless
cursive verge
so I should be doing 1 6 star, and 4 stars or free 5 star?
Usually its either 4 stars or spend hope for 6 stars yes
agile spruce
ye too soon for that rn
agile spruce
I'll have to try that on boss then. Combo 1 took care all the mobs I came across
agile spruce
ye
desert brook
yeah the timing matters a lot more for stronger enemies
and also high diff cuz every enemy becomes a stronger enemy
cursive verge
This was back from when I was a noob, as you xan see except canta its either 6 stars or free stuff
desert brook
what's a good starting pick for 4 star caster and how do I even determine this
i think click or indigo
cursive verge
This is after I became a bit better
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12pVkUnLRQuaeOjwXf3M9adzjYsuQ9iPz/view?usp=drivesdk
subtle moss
Yea theres no reason to pick 5 star except canta/surfer and/or ptilo
desert brook
from what i was told since i asked a while ago
subtle moss
Amiya too ig
cursive verge
You dont draft ptilo unless you really know what you are dping
And yeah click/indigio for free casters
agile spruce
cursive verge
I spend hope om caster only if its pram2/I have surplus hope amd drafted almost everyone I need and want a yam op so leizi1
subtle moss
Offensive medic feels like a bum in is6 due to talisman
I dont like both version of kal
desert brook
cleared with only 3 e2 6*, truly we live in a raidian society
subtle moss
Such is raidian
cursive verge
Iirc I had excess hope
subtle moss
subtle moss
I once reject the thoughts of raidian
And the gamemode is somewhat unplayable
When i was still learning too
agile spruce
does skill level matter for click or indigo?
cursive verge
I mean sl7 is cheap
And if you are drafting them might as well put them to use whenever possible
desert brook
Like 23 or so
i love this gamemode, i walk into nian node and i come out with a lifetime supply of hope
desert brook
yeah becausw its funny
cursive verge
I always lose so I dont
desert brook
maybe im lucky but nian node seems really potent
cursive verge
And I find ling node eww so thats a skip always
desert brook
And I find ling node eww so thats a skip always
damn bro doesnt like gambling
cursive verge
desert brook
apparently i didnt get a screenshot, i think i did a d15 ed2 where i just gambled all my money and coupons
and had to do the fight with shitty coins and exu s1 because i forgot ti change it
desert brook
i just cycled random bullshit
muted tiger
I should try to do a Raidian-less D15 run.
desert brook
wait i have a screenshot of the stage clear just not the full clear i think
cursive verge
ic
desert brook
my draft and relics were good enough to complete it ig
but the coin toss was dogshit
cursive verge
Chetto hoshi2 s2 tech wsow
cursive verge
Iirc sui foot has a good amlunt of res sp hoshi2 is bad against him
Just what relics did bro have
desert brook
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984148336099598348/1502470563426336808/im...
wait i didnt even have e2 cheeto
???
yeah i dont remember shit about this run
i know i got uppi on f5 and i was gambling for another guard voucher because ulpi sa2 would be funny and i lost the gamble
real pendant
dadadada
agile spruce
just got 3 guard vouchers in a row <:dead:1260151581677191199>
make that 4
who the heck do I choose
buoyant beacon
Wha- what trigger stage change on #4 ed1 boss???
I didn't do shit and the stage layout change wth
floral plaza
alter d1 is kinda no joke i hope you drafted good squad
less ice but ice is tanky
and enemies changed to more bullshit ones
real pendant
next IS
the boss low hp but will reflect your damage
buoyant beacon
alter d1 is kinda no joke i hope you drafted good squad
I literally died 10 second in the game because I didn't see they swap the damn blue box too and the first leak was like 5 nose hair away from enemies
buoyant beacon
Suck to be all you Wis'ǎdel user lmfa- oh wait Rosmontis just died fuuuuuck
floral plaza
I literally died 10 second in the game because I didn't see they swap the damn b...
ya the opener is tough espically with the music guys
flint token
10 billions ice spiders
Thank gods trag kinda solves the boss
but the bomb drones spam is so ass
agile spruce
breh, no medic voucher again
I had to refresh trade node once so it'd sell it, so at least i got one this time
buoyant beacon
Pick sniper squad up and got 2 total sniper voucher until F5
God I'm glad newer IS made the squad perk much easier to use
cursive verge
breh, no medic voucher again
do you go for vertical pathings
buoyant beacon
Now I remember why I always pick the Ingot squad back then
agile spruce
do you go for vertical pathings
ye
on that one I went out of my way to do battles too
luckily I got the recuit hr op from safe house and nabbed a monster
cursive verge
its not impossible to not get a voucher for a class in a run but the odds are low if you have been doing what we confirmed outside of turmoils
2 wasted hope and vouchers on lapp1 and honey but oh weel you won
agile spruce
iirc lap was free
subtle moss
Wheeel
cursive verge
voucher waste then
subtle moss
If free there ahould be a red icon baove
subtle moss
Oh d5
agile spruce
my exact reaction
subtle moss
Later on it will be windscoot and purestream anyway
agile spruce
ye they were just kept piling and i didn't know what to do
subtle moss
cursive verge
I would personally oprefer even an e0 yan op for doubts
agile spruce
but according to the ending screen I fought 11 normal battles, 2 boss, and 1 elite
only did 1 turmoil
subtle moss
Study the turmoils
cursive verge
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1K68AzmE27/
its a playlist to clear turmoils with just raidian and amiya
agile spruce
oh sweet
cursive verge
raidian with hoshi2/wis can also do it but I dont have a playlist for them
narrow cosmos
How good is Gnosis in IS? He's gotten a module but I haven't bought it yet
severe oasis
How good is Gnosis in IS? He's gotten a module but I haven't bought it yet
in is6 hes pretty good, especially with silveralt and/or pramalt
im not entirely sure about other themes but i dont think hes remarkable in them
narrow cosmos
Is he likely to remain good in is 7?
severe oasis
we know literally nothing about is7 so
hard to answer
who knows whatll be meta there
narrow cosmos
How's he in the other IS then?
severe oasis
like i said i dont think hes remarkable/a priority draft
but im not 100% sure either
because i only use him in is6
errant siren
How's he in the other IS then?
Tried him in IS3, pretty good up to Izumik.
minor agate
How does the stage work for Musical Disaster in IS4? I don't think I was around when the mechanics were introduced and lost twice already because of that stage.
severe oasis
How does the stage work for Musical Disaster in IS4? I don't think I was around ...
operators that arent connected to the laser have very slow sp gen
the laser will bounce in the direction operators are facing when it hits them
so you wanna chain them
otherwise no sp for you
errant siren
How does the stage work for Musical Disaster in IS4? I don't think I was around ...
Everyone has -50% SP Regen by default. To regain Skill Bar charge faster, you ops need to be inside of white beam. The more ops inside it, the greater will be SP Regen. You can put your ops into the lane and DIRECTION where are looking will change the beam path.
But be careful, certain enemies works differently with that beam. Some are becomes weaken upon them, some will shoot weaker to your ops inside beam, but some just straightforward benefit from your ops being in that beam and can easily kill your ops.
severe oasis
i mean lowkey ansel can usually outheal that stage for me
i usually have multiple dps though so eh
minor agate
Thanks for the info in detail. I tried looking up the mechanic and got even more confused
nocturne hare
Is this the node where i get that thing that makes all leisure nodes visible?
split void
Um no ?
Leisure node for a relic
Read them
Literally say Retrieve, Legend Tarven node there
earnest shuttle
why couldnt this be talon
cursive verge
Nope
subtle moss
she has hands
cursive verge
Available pnly in is2 amd is3 damn
sly harness
Hand available before class even was real
cursive verge
Hoshi2 foreshadow trust
sly harness
And now IS6 has a book that gives similar (even better) effects to all defenders (powercreep in IS is scary)
cursive verge
minor agate
I've been having trouble cracking through the beginning difficulty level of IS4. Is this normal?
errant siren
I've been having trouble cracking through the beginning difficulty level of IS4....
Yes
Roguelike has hands and they can still kill you even on Easy diffs.
You just learn your mistakes and bring better ops to fight shit.
minor agate
oof, welp time for some growing pains with IS4
brazen bane
those sheeps are demonic and they werent even made for IS4
earnest shuttle
you have alerted the horde
sly harness
I had a funny situation with those sheep in the IS6 f2 stage. Raidian S2 summons are stalling like 6 of them next to the blue box and the summons have less than 50% HP and then comes the boar
brazen bane
gaunt bay
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Hand_of_Spikes
is2 doesnt matter :realmad:
sly harness
Quite strong
cursive verge
cursive verge
Littles less than 3 off skill ng I think
earnest shuttle
I hate it when I reroll my only cursed curio only to find a flashing sword/wss next battle
sly harness
I hate it when I reroll my only cursed curio only to find a flashing sword/wss n...
ed4 gives you up to 2 and you can't reroll them 
So I was playing this stage and noticed that SA wasn't taking damage from the boss
paper notch
85 res 
paper notch
no diff
sly harness
If I don't die I will pick determination too
topaz gazelle
So I have a question for is6. I heard that the best n12 strat is to only save the floor 1 tickets, and then use all other tickets as normal, and recruitment alter as just an emergency combat
What I don't get tho, is that so very very often (like half of the tickets), I just won't have the hope for a six star. Do I just use it on a four star? That feels like a big waste compared to saving
errant siren
So I have a question for is6. I heard that the best n12 strat is to only save th...
The problem is you rarely enter Pathfinder for Hope discount Recruitment.
faint rampart
if bros playing is3 then whos gonna test mizookers on the is6 stage😔
topaz gazelle
Why would you not enter it for hope discount? Otherwise most of my vouchers are wasted on 4 stars that doesn't feel impactful later on
errant siren
Why would you not enter it for hope discount? Otherwise most of my vouchers are ...
Because missing Bosky and more battles for more benefit.
topaz gazelle
Most of the time bosky is on the same path as the pathfinder, tho I agree with missing combat. So what do I do with the vouchers when I have less than 6 hope if it's not an upgrade?
sly harness
~~if bros playing is3 then whos gonna test mizookers on the is6 stage~~😔
You can
I am counting on you
errant siren
Most of the time bosky is on the same path as the pathfinder, tho I agree with m...
Waste on 4☆, then 3☆.
brazen bane
Why would you not enter it for hope discount? Otherwise most of my vouchers are ...
hope discount is a crutch for learning
once you get used to the mode you can fight in the pathfinder instead and get more power that way while optimizing the squad to pick more useful unit so that you dont need as much hope as before
faint rampart
You can <:RosThumbsUp:1002223944738287626>
🥹
topaz gazelle
So the one combat that pathfinder provides is more useful than potentially filling up the squad with meta units? Or is there more hope sources from early floors that I'm missing?
brazen bane
you dont need to rely on pathfinder recruit to "fill your squad with meta units"
sly harness
So I have a question for is6. I heard that the best n12 strat is to only save th...
This is an example of a draft without conserving vouchers. Still more than enough to easily win
brazen bane
there are more options
like shop, like spending ticket on bosky entry
and face off to candle
sly harness
Raidian + 6 1* carries early Bosky and f1-f3
You will usually get 2nd and even 3th 6* on f3
A lot of early Hope comes from doing as many early Turmoils as possible on f2/f3
open girder
I'm almost done with the IS2 100% (20 reward levels and 11 collectibles left)
I'm getting kinda hyped for IS3 now
topaz gazelle
Fair enough then. I trust that you guys are probably right, I just don't feel very convinced that having the rewards from a pathfinder combat is more value than recruiting 2-3 more op 6 stars like Wang, even if they don't synergise with the relics well
faint rampart
【【震坎】收隐藏鼠鼠，水月神了-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/LCuhk0Y
@/lukas
topaz gazelle
But even if you do, you will still objectively be at less 6 stars than if you took the hope reduction, and I feel like there is enough super meta ops that a 6 star recruitment is always useful
cursive verge
Even at d15 theres minimal hope pressure and thats with 6 stars costing 7 hope to recruit
sly harness
the thing is that if you are good at scaling 2-4 6* ops easily clear everthing even on d15
cursive verge
topaz gazelle
Yea that's what I don't really get. Why would you play with 2-4 6* and really good relics, when you can play with say, 8-10 6* and decent relics
I feel like surely the latter is easier
cursive verge
One needs less 6 stars to win a run, other you can still fuck up
Quality>Quantity
cursive verge
Not to mention scaling with relics is important to keep up with higher difficulties (admitted you can stick to the old method of conserving vouchers even at d15)
Iirc my first d15 ed1 run had like 16 relics
sly harness
【【震坎】收隐藏鼠鼠，水月神了-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/LCuhk0Y
@/lukas
2 cycles or ASPD
cursive verge
Endinf 1
faint rampart
2 cycles or ASPD
😔
cursive verge
Of is6
sly harness
2 cycles or ASPD
you can show this is Central
next dew
Ouh
faint rampart
its not relicless so~
next dew
yii is next years limited (trust me I'm a prophet)
Will we get midnight alter? 
cursive verge
Low-key the easiest boss I've experienced, I've struggled with Phantom more
Real lucian more annoying
next dew
Real lucian more annoying
Ye
Low-key, if an operator dies in Yii's fight, there's no consequences
He takes his sweet time
cursive verge
yii is next years limited (trust me I'm a prophet)
Hw will save mystic caster reputatoon
crystal niche
Will we get midnight alter? <:Wgoof:1495405027722924184>
maybe steward alter first
next dew
The real threats are the peons
Especially the ones with the guys that turn into floating trinkets
I hate those enemies so much
crystal niche
Hw will save mystic caster reputatoon
oh god
crystal niche
the twink is gonna be saved by another twink?
next dew
Twinksepction
cursive verge
Yea that's what I don't really get. Why would you play with 2-4 6* and really go...
Oh yeah hope is good to exchange for more lp/relics in tavern too
next dew
I played IS6 for my friend, her account is level 17 and she has nothing
crystal niche
Oh yeah hope is good to exchange for more lp/relics in tavern too
hope for relics 
cursive verge
I do it
next dew
But I did for her until level 65
cursive verge
next dew
For the six star masteries
sly harness
its not relicless so~
you still want to test it yourself 
next dew
Because am so nice
cursive verge
Aftwr I get my core drafys ofc
cursive verge
Aftwr I get my core drafys ofc
I mean anything beyond that is wasted
cursive verge
3 hope vs 8 ingots bro
Also what if that visit doesnt give relic for ingots
Cant be wasting candles
Also de0ends on othwr options
But yes its a choice
crystal niche
Also what if that visit doesnt give relic for ingots
Cant be wasting candles
if not then prob ingots to lp
crystal niche
Lp to ingots
cursive verge
I am sure some madman will take that
crystal niche
I mean if u have infinite candles there's an infinite exchange
cursive verge
Wei chen ruler:
faint rampart
you still want to test it yourself <:ExeNaruhodo:838716844076564480>
release someone else who can suck like Mizuki
cursive verge
New monhun unit trust
crystal niche
New monhun unit trust
all this monhun talk
can't I just rest with wang ball spam
faint rampart
can't I just rest with wang ball spam
wang cant suck rats bro
cursive verge
Unless you bave titi
faint rampart
-1 relic
cursive verge
Titi got a relevant usecase before potential woman nasti
crystal niche
well there was alot of units in the clear including yato alt which might be the most important
t3 is something else
bro just brings the whole family in
cursive verge
Yeah gatk2 good for ed5
next dew
What's a good relic to look for in IS6?
next dew
next dew
Titi got a relevant usecase before potential woman nasti
Titi or Reed
crystal niche
bells
next dew
I wanna get TiTi
crystal niche
next dew
But I also want chen Alter Alter
crystal niche
bells has been so fun once I got the hang of pathfinder fights
next dew
I couldn't care about Wang
cursive verge
- wu shang shuttle
- bells of agreement
- drum of expedition
- familty stir fry
- some relic tbat buffs candleguests firther
next dew
- wu shang shuttle
- bells of agreement
- drum of expedition
- familty stir fry
...
Am saving this
next dew
Nyehheed
cursive verge
Civs
crystal niche
woah
next dew
Cooked
crystal niche
what is that
errant siren
That's End1 Alter
crystal niche
icic
cursive verge
Oh
carmine plover
how hard is is5 compared to is2 or is3 if I just play on lower difficulty for the rewards?
crystal niche
still seems ez af
sly harness
very easy to cheese
cursive verge
Ia5 is cheesable
next dew
Depends on the run, no? If your lucky and whatever
sly harness
wait for IS6 cheese
trail needle
i baited the 3 ball attack and chain and she still died
sly harness
all rewards in 1 run
crystal niche
all rewards in 1 run <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
cursive verge
upper apex
@trail needle https://youtu.be/L7546dgeaqI
cursive verge
Ppl clearing d18 with blueprint wisadel woth drafts like these
trail needle
i think i may cooked
cursive verge
<@892926525698080859> https://youtu.be/L7546dgeaqI
We dont recommend ewwkoggen here
trail needle
whats the play here chat
errant siren
@trail needle
On center there will be a lot of Sarkaz Binding Casters and Sleeping Multicasters. Try to takedown them ASAP. As well as Flying Gargoyles on very top.
All of them goes to right bluebox.
Top redboxes are Sarkaz Binding Casters coming to tunnel and then exiting to left bluebox.
Left Redbox are IS5 Supreme Mages with Kinder-Surprise inside.
trail needle
right
crystal niche
vif
upper apex
Wtf is boli vif
crystal niche
sly harness
whats the play here chat
Wisadel S3 boom boom
crystal niche
Wisadel S3 boom boom
let's gooooo
errant siren
Boss will do circles around center and will reappear after tunnel on top left.
Then leak into right bluebox.
crystal niche
nuclear warfare
trail needle
Wisadel S3 boom boom
thats not gonna work
sly harness
literally even relicless does it (it use NG to survive casters but under normal conditions Wis should just kill before they can break her summons)
sly harness
where damage
errant siren
No Kings?
trail needle
no king
trail needle
is she surviving this hit?
errant siren
I guess no
trail needle
nvm the next one gets her cuz she has no aspd
errant siren
Have fun.
trail needle
now what
sly harness
it was S2 boom boom
trail needle
this is a funny sight
sly harness
the Trag S3
trail needle
ALRIGHT WISADEL ROUND 2
sly harness
with Hand a perma stall angle
sly harness
still you can get his Hand and doing so is high prio
trail needle
oh woah
PLS
@errant siren HELP ME
😭
what goes after this
does nothing spawn?
until fremont die?
errant siren
does nothing spawn?
Top casters.
upper apex
@trail needle ur cooked
trail needle
shush
i got it
oh god
this is a fucking scary sight
@errant siren DALAO PLS TELL ME WHERE THE BOATS GO
crystal niche
<@355960476783607808> DALAO PLS TELL ME WHERE THE BOATS GO
omae wa mou, shindeiru
errant siren
<@355960476783607808> DALAO PLS TELL ME WHERE THE BOATS GO
Oh idk, I didn't summoned them in my run.
trail needle
FUUUUU
trail needle
https://tomimi.dev/en/stages/ISW-DF_Cognitive_Correction#enemy_2090_skzjbc
its not showing a video
trail needle
FA
steel crest
2 sneaked
trail needle
oh
trail needle
yeah
crystal niche
gnussy
trail needle
fremont is coming for blue door
sly harness
sly harness
Let me test this tree thing at least once because after collecting the 100 samples for the ending rng thing in 2 days I am ABIT tired with IS3
crystal niche
Let me test this tree thing at least once because after collecting the 100 sampl...
oh ur doing tree squad
I once tried that and got overloaded
sly harness
i got a god run on first try but i died (i haven't played this IS in like 2 months and i don't know how to play without e2 Ros)
faint rampart
crystal niche
sly harness
(there is so much counting though, I missed the fact that my Tin Man will be e2, I could have 4 more)
i died
i am so washed
back to IS3
crystal niche
storm yoke
sly harness
So simple without a fraud Knight
sly harness
Now I can steal borrow the relicless strat
earnest shuttle
brazen bane
she can't fly if she's frozen?
earnest shuttle
idk
brazen bane
brazen bane
※ The landing motion when activating the skill and the takeoff motion when the skill ends are both considered normal attacks, and during these motions the user is not regarded as being in a flying state. The landing motion is included in the skill’s total duration.
so thats why the disarm guy can make her stop flying
earnest shuttle
:talismanya:
crystal niche
so thats why the disarm guy can make her stop flying
brazen bane
can she be frozen
yea she can get hit while using s1
earnest shuttle
@sly harness most of the run you posted doesnt have echos that benefit the run right ?
I got Call of we many and it cheese f1 with just exu and kroos
sly harness
this clear is almost afk even without the call on NM
earnest shuttle
true this wasnt EM 
sly harness
but ye i am usually recording without calls that helps
earnest shuttle
sly harness
true this wasnt EM <:Sheew:596474493522804746>
so when collecting the endings data i cleared this stage with my 3 op setup 12 times, 8 times it worked and 4 i leaked one enemy (generally with an extra unit it should be leakless)
rich thorn
so when collecting the endings data i cleared this stage with my 3 op setup 12 t...
what was worst stage?
OOC or water & fire?
sly harness
worst in what sense?
rich thorn
it total, most leaked
sly harness
(while collecting data I finished the runs on f3)
How else could I have collected 100 samples in 2 days?
remote badger
How else could I have collected 100 samples in 2 days?
1 run per 20 mins
what r u
unemployed
?
sly harness
here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/177B0yn8CCfjVZNwh2p8mx6Z1VWS7AMiEhxqh6yH3IoU/edit?usp=sharing
sly harness
unemployed
yes this is my superpower
sly harness
how long u been unemployed wtf
I'm studying
sly harness
Knights and other bodies surely can hold bottom
flint token
who has been a candleguest since f2
sly harness
you have a lot of them
faint rampart
I'm studying
sly harness
I'm studying
Although it is part-time and theoretically I could go to work, but because my situation does not require it, it somehow happened that I do not work
faint rampart
:reallyMad: lucky guy maybe
cursive verge
-# same situation as me but I am full-time student damn
sly harness
btw i wanted to ask but got distracted, Kroos skin where 
tacit hollow
free passenjesus
cursive verge
Is that you kermit
Yep theres no tsundere kermit username in this server
Must be you
rich thorn
twink acc
cursive verge
Usernames can be edited and they stay the same across servers
And I see no kermit
I mean I could be wrong but
buoyant beacon
Discord lag fuck my comment, can't even make fun of this bullshit man 🙄
gaunt bay
Usernames can be edited and they stay the same across servers
Yeah it just doesnt show when u search lol
Here hes Rock Solid
earnest shuttle
btw i wanted to ask but got distracted, Kroos skin where <:KalStare:888785530479...
I used the skin voucher on cantabile
also Im not that old to get pajama skin yet
gaunt bay
Kermimimimimi
limpid thunder
Its exu alt can beat quilon?
remote badger
Its exu alt can beat quilon?
no
what r u thinking
40 bullets over about 3m hp mf with dr
so expect like
no
remote badger
true
limpid thunder
Only she got promoted, damn
gaunt bay
If this is talons exu is super broken
limpid thunder
I'm confused about what to pick...
sly harness
she isn't terrible but definitely not the go to pick
gaunt bay
2000% damage
sly harness
NM TT with 3th different duo (technically 4th but e1 Trag clear was a bit off)
remote badger
NM TT with 3th different duo (technically 4th but e1 Trag clear was a bit off)
did knight lived
open finch
How broken
I wonder if 2op possible for emergency
Cuz Wis could full solo normal back in d15
sly harness
there was a Wis cycle for drons?
remote badger
How broken
limpid thunder
Its exu alt can beat quilon?
Oh, nvm
I have 31 lp
open finch
They slow if you don't activate em
remote badger
icant
limpid thunder
It's better to take him home than to fight him
severe perch
how is this possible logically?
https://youtu.be/9wXUHT4giis?si=RjfkyYby-E_a0WiU
sly harness
loop
remote badger
how is this possible logically?
https://youtu.be/9wXUHT4giis?si=RjfkyYby-E_a0WiU
looping
open finch
Sciel 🥀
severe perch
elaborate ples
remote badger
yes its looping
sly harness
guide in pinned
sly harness
ye f1 are chill
open finch
we should sleep
Plural, question mark?
sly harness
Time to EM looking forward looking back
woeful knot
there was a Wis cycle for drons?
there is
even now i still use said cycle
she cant do em now tho
has to eat quite a few ammo
sly harness
EM
crystal niche
sly harness
Just like this (for EM you will need more damage or freez)
sly harness
1 f4 EM per run and I get this 
remote badger
lol
solar tree
Just like this <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997> (for EM you will need more da...
2 dp wisadel....
sly harness
SA
glacial socket
gotta love it when i forgot to change my raidian to S2 for the sui boss
earnest shuttle
And this was super simple
now imagine this same map except they placed a thorn chest on the bottom
2 tile away from silver ash
it happened in my previous run
flint token
gotta love it when i forgot to change my raidian to S2 for the sui boss
22 relics bro is POOR
glacial socket
22 relics bro is POOR
unlucky with relics
could've beaten sui if my dumbass switched raidian to s2
flint token
bro this isnt just unlucky you straight up severely undergreeded
slim helm
good news: my is6 d6 run is now at sui and set up just right, i forgor you can get raidian e2 lv 90 mod3 right away with specialty squad and wowzers
glacial socket
i usually get 30+ relics in a run but got unlucky on the run
flint token
The average in is6 is like 40 so uhh
slim helm
i just need to, do the fight, of which im not, familar with, this would be my third encouter 
flint token
Assuming casual run no ultra greed or ed4
slim helm
https://giphy.com/gifs/just-do-it-shia-UqZ4imFIoljlr5O2sM
it's more of "am i doing this right and not f*king it up" sort of situation
flint token
Me when i enter emer elusive merc them immediately explodes
slim helm
real
flint token
invis nuclear bomb
crystal niche
Me when i enter emer elusive merc them immediately explodes
flint token
ggwp
crystal niche
steel relic
Shrimple as
flint token
fyi i could actually pull for him but i spent 200 pulls already and i kinda dont have sunkcost fallacy built into my brain
steel relic
slim helm
with the following, doable with 44lp?
crystal niche
with the following, doable with 44lp?
ye
cursive verge
stage?
crystal niche
just leak left side
slim helm
ed2 d6 is6
cursive verge
anything should be doable
flint token
bro actually picked up coin geists 🥹
cursive verge
wow exu2 s3 mastered but s2 sl7
crystal niche
with the following, doable with 44lp?
why is exu2 modless and s2 not m3ed
cursive verge
gimme your exu2 you dont treat her well
crystal niche
😭
cursive verge
anyways
steel relic
Why is Ange m0 
cursive verge
its d6
crystal niche
gimme your exu2 you dont treat her well
same bro gimme that
slim helm
why is exu2 modless and s2 not m3ed
because i went for crownslayer memes with her s3, but ill m3 her s2 knowing all of this
crystal niche
because i went for crownslayer memes with her s3, but ill m3 her s2 knowing all ...
MOD?
cursive verge
sl7 s2 should shred that anyways
sly harness
now imagine this same map except they placed a thorn chest on the bottom
2 tile...
SA on Spot tile facing right and you cope
flint token
abominable account ngl 🥹
crystal niche
abominable account ngl 🥹
flint token
just leak everything on the left and focus fire feet ig
slim helm
righto
cursive verge
ange could handle left I think
final gale
oh its d6 feet boss
cursive verge
but like why bother with 44 lp
flint token
Too much effort for no reason
final gale
i would focus more effort not getting shitted by stomping random dragon due to poor ops placement
slim helm
i would focus more effort not getting shitted by stomping random dragon due to p...
this
slim helm
i do, i do, it's just, third time
crystal niche
Help i forgot
3-3
sonic sable
Okk
flint token
Check pin duh
crystal niche
well 3-3 is prob best since almost everything is an apparation
sonic sable
Ok taking 4 2
arctic panther
i usually like 4-1 more 
faint rampart
crystal niche
isnt 4-1 the 50% hp and attack for candleguests <:LappDumb:596474463118163968>
no it's atk and def
arctic panther
no it's atk and def
close enough
cursive verge
say guys
sufferings flourishing at ed2
d15
against emergency stimulant, coin toy and full kings set
whos gonna win'
place your bets
earnest shuttle
ed2
remote badger
ed2
crystal niche
ed2
arctic panther
me
cursive verge
smh one-sided
slim helm
i need more experience in that fight, i forcked up and foolishly ignored the statuegeist.
paper notch
stamp collection talk 4-2 better 90% of the time imo
slim helm
i thought it wouldnt be a problem
(it was a problem)
and the, +99 dp tongbao + coin giest combo prooobaly not helping me much, it did make raidian 0 tho which was sweet but.
alas, ill figure this out, if i can get there that quickly, i can do it again and do it right 
earnest shuttle
turns out this is the key path, idk what about the blank arrow ones
sly harness
@earnest shuttle i will upload this one
earnest shuttle
sly harness
Easy clear