is-station

[craggy shadow]

:3

wrong msg

i mean

I like IS4

[rich thorn]

did you

did you typed what you like IS3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077416739798782001/1504529254115971072/RDT_20260514_2001501891370585034312312.gif

[night mauve]

So, when should I rob the trader?

[errant siren]

Ideally you want for later floors where you will 100% not encounter his shop anymore.

So in Floor 6 usually.

[cursive verge]

Which IS

[sly harness]

IS5 with Lamo should aim for f4 rob

[night mauve]

… was doing Sui, beat him up for the whistle on F2, then never saw a single trader again until the end.

[sly harness]

IS6 can rob on f3 if you feel like it (need early power and shop is good)

[night mauve]

Is that supposed to be common or not?

[sly harness]

IS6 has guaranteed shops on f6 with one of the skill tree upgrades

[night mauve]

Went for the ending where you needed to kill Sui, copied the normal ending picks… and then blasted through the level with about 250 ingots and heavy ingot scaling anyway.

[crystal niche]

in taotie veranda

if I examine the other coin

can I still pick the one before

[slate hull]

the encounter? pretty sure you can't

[crystal niche]

yes

[rotund copper]

I just fucking recruited her now 6 hopes went to waste

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1362239652987404519/B2GPRDBU2SDVATW2F15.gif

Youre on thin ice pal

[sly harness]

she still works as 10 Hope stun bomb if you prmote her

[glacial socket]

what floor should i usually need to make sure i get the butterfly node

[remote badger]

🧊

[hearty crypt]

Why is this floor 2 map 🥀

[rotund copper]

The promote lwk bugged for some reason

I just lost 2 hopes to promote her and somehow it didn't work

[remote badger]

wher mod

[sly harness]

You can get it even on f5 and still go for ed2 if you have enough damage to burst Sui in 1 Turmoil

But getting it by the end of f4 Boksy would be usually good

Although you should pick it as early as possible, getting it on f2 to get more value from 0 DP unit through the run can be very good

[sly harness]

You had to do something wrong. Can you show this Texas?

[rotund copper]

the run ended

got raped by emergency out of control

They had fucking mobs run at speed of light straight to blue box

[remote badger]

ofc

[muted skiff]

ok they preloaded nasti

no need to hold top lane anymore

good to know

[remote badger]

so

so

useless

[muted skiff]

it saves you 1 or 2 deploy slot

[empty gulch]

wdym?

[muted skiff]

nasti ss have a weird floating/fell mechanic , they reworked something

[main bison]

free Asalon's a good pick, no?

[errant siren]

Where we can see the difference?

[gaunt bay]

Is6?

[main bison]

yes

[gaunt bay]

Ig

But spec ticket very competitive

There are sometimes u might just want exu more

[main bison]

I have Ethan too and Exu 2

[gaunt bay]

Go for it yea

[muted skiff]

wdym

[errant siren]

"nasti ss have a weird floating/fell mechanic , they reworked something"
you putted screenshot of IS5 map

Where we can see the difference?

[cunning karma]

This

[muted skiff]

enemy no longer can walk on hole edge

[errant siren]

Oh

Tf

Ummmm

It should be a bug

[muted skiff]

bug ? maybe , they reworked the whole thing

[errant siren]

If you they just kill themselves on top, that would devalue whole purpose of defending top side

[muted skiff]

i think the new guy write a new code for nasti ss and makes 黑桥 IS stage design looks like a joke

[errant siren]

And map suddenly becomes piss easy (it already was until now)

[tulip hemlock]

Lancet 2 unironically saving my runs ngl

[earnest shuttle]

lukas would be proud

[faint rampart]

damn clanker

[full thorn]

how do you genuinely play is5

[cursive verge]

Definie 'genuinely'

Like are you asking how to play or how to play outside of wisadel blueprint abuse

[full thorn]

like the basics and everything

[cursive verge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/157NX4DMfw9Md9woUqZb9rxIoz9XDB0Vioq2I9f5akao/edit?usp=sharing

[full thorn]

thanks bro

[rotund copper]

Just loaded up is6 and the first node has mimic chest next to the blue box

[cursive verge]

[tulip hemlock]

Tequila came home

[cursive verge]

Wrong channel I think

[tulip hemlock]

What's this channel about?

[cursive verge]

Integrated strategies

[tulip hemlock]

Ah

[faint rampart]

just say Teq is broken in IS and it'll be relevant frfr

[errant siren]

[cursive verge]

Surely 5☆knights players draft him

[crystal niche]

[real pendant]

i am still not touching the new IS

mama dairian will angry

[tulip hemlock]

Should I use off topic then? Cuz there's too many people in general

[faint rampart]

can always use station as off topic if you're good player an elitist

[cunning karma]

[cursive verge]

We do be going off-topic here and there yeah

[remote badger]

if before 5/5/25

[errant siren]

Just beat Izumik on D15 and you're free to talk.

[sly harness]

d18

[remote badger]

lemme

introduce you to the list

[crystal niche]

uh d10?

[errant siren]

15

[faint rampart]

+doesnt have to be a highroll run
need to beat consistently frfr

[errant siren]

[cursive verge]

No feed too

[crystal niche]

[cunning karma]

I don't know how to play IS that gives <60 relics 😭

[remote badger]

as long as u clear 2+ endings in a run on maxdiff then ur good to go

[errant siren]

No, I'll shut up that way, uwaaaaah

[sly harness]

[remote badger]

just wiggle smh smh

[tulip hemlock]

can I stay at least out of pity

[faint rampart]

damn vro you got a better acc than me

[remote badger]

cant see shits

[cursive verge]

They alresdy bought ethan, good sign

[sly harness]

see you in 2 years

[cursive verge]

Wonder if I should start #help ing here for this giy

[gaunt bay]

Meow :3

[remote badger]

meow

[cursive verge]

Are you following roadless camelot in #help pins

[faint rampart]

ew wtf helping in station

[remote badger]

still less worse than handholding in vc

[gaunt bay]

I am in so much pain

[remote badger]

[cursive verge]

Do you wajt me to share tales of ppl saying wang is micro-intensive instead

[crystal niche]

shhhh

clicking button more than just for skill

so much effort

[cursive verge]

Everyone dioled after I sent rhat

[rotund copper]

Auto deploy pramanix

[sly harness]

I guess he kinda can be. if you're playing a relicless em ooc or Sentinel, you have to be incredibly accurate with every deployment

where in the case of most units it cames down to skill timing here you are constantly doing something

[faint rampart]

they called him arts wis
why do i have to press so much grrrrr

[sly harness]

(but I guess that conversation was not about playing at this level)

[tulip hemlock]

Ew help channels

[faint rampart]

you might be goated my guy

[signal niche]

i just completely melt is5 ending 3 on my second try

[sly harness]

he is like that, he melts (do we have any d15/d18 4* solo gif for that boss?)

[tulip hemlock]

Robin too btw

[signal niche]

the power narantuya + white shoes

[tropic adder]

She can truly integrate our strategies

[signal niche]

the first time i face him i didnt know, and he leaked, i tanked it tho

[faint rampart]

wasnt there some jackie solo on yt
time to~

[sly harness]

Silvergun should have Conviction solo

[signal niche]

conviction oneshot is bosses

thats is a challenge you will never see done

[sly harness]

if the bosses are frauds

[cursive verge]

Technically tbis is one too

[tulip hemlock]

My playstyle is ragebait

[signal niche]

and with that is clear, ive reach my goal of lvl125 for mudrock skin

now i can move on to is6

[cursive verge]

Where 5 star e2 max ticket

[cursive verge]

Indeed it was about banner recommebdation

[tulip hemlock]

Take a look

Hehe

[sly harness]

max your Yato

[cursive verge]

half-assed baiter wtf

[tulip hemlock]

Amiya is amiya

[faint rampart]

amiya is guardmiya castermiya medicmiya

[cursive verge]

Triple personality disorder

[cunning karma]

You're in IS channel so let's try to beat IS6 for e2 Raidian

Actually very helpful for noob account

[cursive verge]

[arctic panther]

noob trap

[cursive verge]

If its too much to handle, we can log in and play for you

[tropic adder]

Me who struggles in is6

Hell can't even win on lowest diff once

[sly harness]

IS2 looking like shit encounter

[tropic adder]

That's IS2?

[arctic panther]

is3

[tropic adder]

Y'all reacting like my raidian is already E2 (she isn't yet) 😭

[faint rampart]

people win without raidian
you can do it bro

[tropic adder]

I'm that sucks bro

[cunning karma]

I got e2 Raidian in my 2nd week

[tropic adder]

[sly harness]

people win without units at all
this probably is harder than winning normal

[faint rampart]

consider checking the website in pins
and maybe some playlists if you wanna

[tropic adder]

Tbh i died mostly in random stages than the final boss itself so yeah

[faint rampart]

hello im stuck on d10 and trying to beat with ling loop, can you teach me how

[tropic adder]

I already used the pin guides

[faint rampart]

uhhh
draft&play better (comes with experience or something idk)

[cunning karma]

I was following some guides at first that told me to avoid bosky fights and find tavern, but it was almost an impossible mission then I realized that I just need to restart for correct vouchers and actually take the bosky fights

Things became a lot easier since then

[tulip hemlock]

Btw who should I get next? From welfare

[arctic panther]

@paper notch enlighten this one

[tulip hemlock]

context this what I have

[faint rampart]

#strategy message

might be oldge

[tulip hemlock]

Hell nah

It's is station or nothing now

[earnest shuttle]

get ceylon

[faint rampart]

someone gotta forward the whole ass wall now

[earnest shuttle]

isnt this more of a #help thing

[tulip hemlock]

Ah it's a message

[earnest shuttle]

they have whole suggestion for newbie in the pins

[faint rampart]

:nodders:

[earnest shuttle]

:ggnod:

[cursive verge]

Kroos the keen glint
From invitatiin to wine

[tulip hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-qianyu-chen-arknights-endfield-arknights-point-gif-2697620687880843963

[earnest shuttle]

They already have krooster

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702487212259934208/968131412882501693/1650890169880.gif

[cursive verge]

Ceylon/bryophyta for base yeah

[empty gulch]

flamatain

[faint rampart]

flurtr

[tulip hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/well-behaved-bottoms-rarely-make-history-narita-top-road-umamusume-gif-7066423930593611746

[arctic panther]

read the list

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/lemuen-arknights-well-behaved-bottoms-gif-13914481860444350217

[tulip hemlock]

what if I am one :(

[faint rampart]

🫡

[earnest shuttle]

Beat is3 d18 ed4 and you will be history

[arctic panther]

with no feed relicless all bans blindfolded deafened limbless no tongue no nose no breathing and you also have to do it while actually fighting izumik in real life

[earnest shuttle]

[tulip hemlock]

Well I'm kinda doing that rn

[cursive verge]

And eat jellyfish before doing that

[earnest shuttle]

good timing, lukas is making a guide for almost every stage in is3 rn

[tulip hemlock]

No I was talking to Rose

https://tenor.com/view/well-behaved-bottoms-rarely-make-history-narita-top-road-umamusume-gif-7066423930593611746

[arctic panther]

you're on your way to becoming the next dalao

[paper notch]

yo was good

[tulip hemlock]

who

[earnest shuttle]

pro playa

[cursive verge]

Hows skybox and cairn

[paper notch]

been working on a google sheets instead https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x9iN2HwX8J_aWingLakCBJd4b8VX6xwP4RWSbiyLtiE/edit?usp=sharing

[tulip hemlock]

bro knows his shit

[paper notch]

same idea but more info and better reasoning i think

[cursive verge]

Top gun squad guide waow

[paper notch]

skybox is pretty good imo. good cycle decent damage. dph is aight as well so ye. i've compared him to tequilla a bit but he has positives and trade-offs. cairn looks good but i havent personally tested her. i think NI with the way she procs it seems good to me at least

[cursive verge]

Ic

[brittle violet]

hey guys, how do you do ED 3?

on is6

[arctic panther]

get 5 candlebearers and select the top option in the special doubt node

[cursive verge]

Pinned guide has a section gor ed3 asw

[brittle violet]

oh wait no I dont know how to fight the special doubt

[brittle violet]

ah ic

[cursive verge]

Uh

Liberstor guard stonks

[brittle violet]

what

[remote badger]

its easy

once u know how to

[arctic panther]

leizialt/mlynar sweep

[sly harness]

Hoshi and Ambushers are good too

Ente

[arctic panther]

either of them destroy the balls

[sly harness]

Yato2

[cursive verge]

Wisadel asw

[earnest shuttle]

Please fast foward to december
I need yato2 in is7

[brittle violet]

aint got wisadel

but I have mlynar and yalter

[crystal niche]

"guard get's talisman on deployement"

[earnest shuttle]

leizialt invincible

[remote badger]

much better

[earnest shuttle]

the talis just disappear

[remote badger]

i see a fucking gold bar

[sly harness]

Młynar damage reflact will break it before his skill is up

[remote badger]

she eats them like her breakfast

[cursive verge]

My mlynwr gets rid of his talismans himself

Liberators are liberated from talismans yeah

[arctic panther]

thats why they're liberators

[brittle violet]

this one is ed 4?

[empty gulch]

yes it is

a new option will appear in scout

[arctic panther]

only scroll one operator

and have it be someone fodder that you dont need for most of the run

you can scroll everyone else on floor 6

[sly harness]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-milton-jojo-kicking-fight-gif-16647809

Type shit

[cursive verge]

[tulip hemlock]

ripmgsghbabnataietihthkkk🥀

[brittle violet]

do we have a list of yan operators

[brittle violet]

hahaha I HAVE SO LITTLE OF THEM

THIS IS NOT FUNNY

[cursive verge]

Surely you have the 4 syars at the very least

[brittle violet]

I didnt raise them

[cursive verge]

Personally if there's a doubt node asking n number of yan ops as its highest rewarding criteria, I even draft unraised yan ops

That said you shojld raise your purestream

[brittle violet]

alr alr

cause I got like 3

[sly harness]

ye e0 4* or even cope with e0 5* is fine for that

[cursive verge]

Time to buy leizi1 skin for this

Nvm f2p nightmare ahead

I should save my lrimes

[arctic panther]

do that

e1 lv60 is fine

[cursive verge]

You can also raise windscoot too

I jist said ourestrewm before since you can draft her for use in is5 asw

[rotund copper]

ourestrewm

[arctic panther]

ourestrewm

[crystal niche]

that's not even a typo anymore gng

🥀

[cursive verge]

O and w are close to p and a respectively

[crystal niche]

ourestrewm

[remote badger]

fat finger

clearly

[arctic panther]

purestream if she had a storke

[brittle violet]

apparently

I dont have purestream

[cursive verge]

[remote badger]

chenleak

[sly harness]

use Recruitment more

[cursive verge]

Medic+support guarantees purestream iirc

Healing+support too I think

[sly harness]

you can get a 5* too...

[cursive verge]

My typis are contagious

[sly harness]

[cursive verge]

[arctic panther]

support guarantees her i think

[queen basin]

are all leisure nodes in bosky the same?

(if i dont get ling in one then the other will also not be ling?)

[desert brook]

no

[queen basin]

yippee

tyyyy

[sly harness]

but they are random

[desert brook]

they are all different iirc, and they dont change each visit so it shows up whats in the node after first visit "spend hope to grow plants with shu" or w/e

[sly harness]

you can get all the same

[desert brook]

ive heard ling node is rare, so i suppose the other nodes like shu and nian are more common
but ive never gotten a bosky with multiple of the same leisure before

[sly harness]

i get the same one twice quite often

although generally I rarely check them all properly

[desert brook]

[tulip hemlock]

why only 3 stars?

[rough thorn]

bro whe tf is1 is so unnecessary harder than the is6 , like wth is this , bruh im struggling on d4 , like what do you mean enemies+30% attk at early , my 3* ops not gon survive that

[buoyant beacon]

God damn how much did they buff enemies in Nameless Heroes bro what the fucking hell is that

[gaunt bay]

Poor

[buoyant beacon]

You mean IS2?

[rough thorn]

the phantom one

[buoyant beacon]

Yup that's 2

1 is the lost media atm

[rough thorn]

yeah i only know that in the portal

but still what de heck is this

[buoyant beacon]

That one alr suck really hard since day 1 at hard mode imo lmao, the debuff was so bad

[gaunt bay]

D4

[buoyant beacon]

When did they update difficulty slider on that thing?

[gaunt bay]

[gaunt bay]

Its been like 6 months already for en

[buoyant beacon]

Bcos man anything before IS5 was made for macochist people lmao

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

with the 2025+ units IS2 isn't hard (bosses can be a bit probleamtic if your draft is ass)

[gaunt bay]

Its d4 they should melt to a warm breeze

[rough thorn]

im at d4 and bruh im leaking at f1

[buoyant beacon]

It's pt new huh
I guess they heard #2 was a cake walk and say aye bet

[gaunt bay]

I mean its still not that hard

[rough thorn]

like as soon as i get a decent unit its a breeze yeah, but the early start is so ridiculous

[plucky root]

Playing ingot and found 2 sniper voucher entire run (in f5 bizarre fragment after fail boat face off)

[sly harness]

use class squads and start with e2 6*

[buoyant beacon]

Now do anyone know this? I got fake out and god DAMMIT REEEEEE

THEY COST 2 LP EACH TOO FOR SOME GOD FORSAKEN REASON

[plucky root]

Imagine seeing your tanker getting 3 shot from a global aoe range unit

[rough thorn]

i just started on it like last night , only got 4 squads unlocked

[remote badger]

keep fucking around and find out

too soon

[crystal niche]

[gaunt bay]

“If you would please consult the graphs”

[plucky root]

Including the sarkaz women?

[buoyant beacon]

Like bro I can do it but by the time I know the stat buff is like 30x I alr fucked man

Gosh I hate #4

[remote badger]

https://tenor.com/view/dushevnaya-gfl2-girls-frontline-2-exilium-fixing-gif-9496128403114549387

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134535015888330846/1479563592972894229/alyrj2.gif

[buoyant beacon]

Every goddamn thing there was engineered to kill your first run and never do shit ever again like

Ugh

[sly harness]

d15 f3

[plucky root]

Anyone volunteer?

[plucky root]

100k hp??

[buoyant beacon]

They even get damage reduction I can't 😭😂

[remote badger]

pretty healthy stats on d15

[sly harness]

everthing has dr (difficulty thing)

[buoyant beacon]

I got it on D12 F5 btw, maybe kinda the same thing

[buoyant beacon]

ohhhh

[plucky root]

I never have a chance to even damage them bro

[buoyant beacon]

Now everyone know I never read shit lmao

[remote badger]

u stall

[sly harness]

https://tomimi.dev/en/stages/ISW-SP_Nameless_Hero

[plucky root]

The last time i try, my e1 cuora cant even stand for a second

[buoyant beacon]

Not much better, thanks tho

I tho it's like fixed number like 30x stat or smth, did they get assigned the custom stat or smth?

[gaunt bay]

Generally people dont take nameless hero fight without specific units

Also dont draft 4/5 stars carelessly in is4

[sly harness]

this x floor base modifiet

[remote badger]

bet on 3*s

[quick steppe]

it's just 6 units(clueless)

[south lodge]

Can i survive tour 2 yi with these guys with like 8 life points and 20 shields

[buoyant beacon]

I can't say for D15, but if I get there with full knowledge I am pretty sure I can beat it first try, everything beside camou caster was at 20% hp man 😔

[gaunt bay]

Youll be fine gng

[sly harness]

Ines

[south lodge]

Hopefully yi would just drop dead early

[gaunt bay]

Trag stall:

[buoyant beacon]

Yi-smelling-cat-to-death.mp4

[south lodge]

That's what i did on my early runs but somehow i keep messing up after getting tour 2

[buoyant beacon]

I love how Yi is weak to Just Surtr It, at least on paper

[gaunt bay]

Surt doesnt do nearly enough damage

Surtr in the big 26

Nice try

[buoyant beacon]

But she can stall him in the middle for 10 second!

[remote badger]

30 mins

[buoyant beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-evolving-just-backwards-gif-21647112

Why do you love #4? any #4 fan here?

Pt sure I heard some Youtuber said #4 is the best on their list somewhere

[remote badger]

me

[gaunt bay]

I love is4

Rah

[buoyant beacon]

Why?

[sly harness]

they are slop and like slop

[south lodge]

OK FINALLY

[gaunt bay]

Lukas is known slop

[south lodge]

Finished tour 2

[gaunt bay]

Bro likes is3 i think his opinion is irrelevant

[buoyant beacon]

Yayyy

[south lodge]

E2 RADIAN BABY

[remote badger]

perfectly balanced IS

[buoyant beacon]

Did he smoke cat to death?

[sly harness]

also it is kinda good for niche knights and a lot of en content space play niche knights

[south lodge]

God i love sakiko

[buoyant beacon]

Oh, yeah #5 was "dogwater easy" on this standard, then that make sense

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[gaunt bay]

Its the most mechanical of the ISes

[sly harness]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[south lodge]

@arctic panther why are you here

[arctic panther]

i've been here

[south lodge]

Every gacha i play i always see you

[buoyant beacon]

Ohh yeah love that node mechanic too

[gaunt bay]

Lowkey is3 post d18 kinda got some of its appeal in that aspect erased by the statbloat

[buoyant beacon]

Never use it tho I just doomsaving it 😔

[gaunt bay]

U just get half ur options erased

[faint rampart]

wow rose is gacha addict📝

[arctic panther]

i am everywhere

[sly harness]

IS5 and IS6 are kinda interesting. At a basic level, they’re easy, but if you play on high-end(max difficulty + forced hardest ending), they become very hard and mechanically deep.

[buoyant beacon]

I have never go over D15 lmao, how much worse is D18?

[gaunt bay]

Id also say is4 is the least reliant on gimmicks and you can kinda see this in how general draft doesnt really have any particularly egregious or gimmicky picks

[sly harness]

although they are quite diffrent from stuff like IS3, a pathing and collectibles fishing is the most important part while solving stages usually isn't as demanding (there are usulay just a handful of stages that are problematic, mainly boss fights)

[gaunt bay]

I have never seen an is5 or is6 clear where the moment to moment decisions and executions mattered as much as back in sgl2 era is4

[buoyant beacon]

Damn, I can feel competitive aura from that comment and I'm scared bruh

I can see that though

[gaunt bay]

Wtf is competitive aura

[remote badger]

the humble excel sheet of doom and despair

[buoyant beacon]

Please

[gaunt bay]

Is4 is obviously much more trivialized by newer units but i think it was the peak of IS gameplay back then

:ya:

Cuz is2/3 got updates later on with difficulty increases

But is4 doesnt have d18 yet

Unfortunate

[gaunt bay]

I think this is the mindset split no?

Difference between playing IS for the roguelike decision making aspect and playing IS for the excellent RTS/TD gameplay facilitated by the roguelike mechanics

[sly harness]

Yeah, from IS4 to IS5 there was a change that significantly influenced what the current IS modes (5 and 6) look like

[gaunt bay]

I dislike how in newer IS content scaling is the end all be all as long as you have a strong core team, whereas in older IS the emphasis was on the team building and operator roles first and then on specific roles and purposes for certain tasks

[sly harness]

But that sounds much more like something that existed in IS3. By IS4, team building wasn’t as interesting anymore, because there you always tried to force the same Degen-centered comp

[earnest shuttle]

is3 and below is pure rougelike experience

[gaunt bay]

?

[sly harness]

what do you mean by "pure rougelike experience"

[gaunt bay]

I think degen is the only caveat here no

You can say the same thing about modern is3 where weedy ange is effectively bar for entry

[proven dagger]

its time

[sly harness]

Degen Ela Shu NG Warf Ines or die

[gaunt bay]

Hardly

Maybe ela

Warf shu ng were not necessary picks in the slightest

[sly harness]

(i am talking about forcing 2+3 and hoping for Sentinel)

[gaunt bay]

Yes

They werent necessary

If you had any bit of max hp you could play eyjalt for example

Warf wasnt that common a pick as youd think

Heidi was more popular

[proven dagger]

i enjoyed in IS4 how i felt like every stage matchup meant something and learning the maps was really fun and felt necessary

[gaunt bay]

Ines was extremely strong but good players could make do without

[gaunt bay]

Ya

[earnest shuttle]

rng are more chaotic than other is imo
you get screwed up by rejection and light loss
cant get around debuff until like d16 and its still pretty challenging, there werent a way to highroll like other higher IS either, requires more thinking and strat

[sly harness]

@faint rampart do you have the sgl2 doc on hand?

[rustic spade]

Is this not the case for is5/6?

[gaunt bay]

I find it less so no?

Popular comps are strength first, solution second

[proven dagger]

IS5 and IS6 is a lot less if you aren't banning ops

theres so many units nowadays that trivialize or compress roles

[faint rampart]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10s_33uIX0Hs16cHw8iQhUaWjNyIQIDx-4UVpuaaagTk/edit?gid=2118474095#gid=2118474095
this?

[gaunt bay]

Maybe Ak meta just got worse over time

[cursive verge]

ebem amd schwarz waow

[rustic spade]

How exactly would you differentiate those 2? Because at least the way i try to approach drafting is a mix of both, you draft a core draft for ending solutions but in a way/order that maintains you strong enough to survive enroute, but is also not limited to that specific draft (in non lamp squads) so you can replace some solutions with others

[crystal niche]

[rustic spade]

For is6 i guess its kinda hard to evaluate right now cause its dlc1 slop but from what ive heard dlc2 is a lot more interesting

[proven dagger]

anyone got a spotify playlist for ed2 gaming?

[remote badger]

what the fuc

[sly harness]

Find some metal gear/dmc music that will fit

or dark souls

[remote badger]

limbussy music

[rustic spade]

Circus music will never fail

[proven dagger]

i wanna aura farm on sui

hmm

[remote badger]

or just the boss theme itself

[gaunt bay]

Well i mean yeah thats kinda the point, for is5 for example your common draft is just too flexible.
Think old SUH2A or Flinger comp, the fact of the matter is that your team is effectively boiled into a small handful of operators that are used for everything and then 2 or so supporting units that have an oversized impact on gameplay

The sheer power provided by relics allows units to fill roles they shouldnt be filling

[proven dagger]

ooooh metal gear would be fun

[earnest shuttle]

Duran Duran - Invinsible

[remote badger]

red sun

[sly harness]

but isn't this like IS4 with the core + some extra. but there you have like 5 difrrent playable cores and not only 1

and then you also have lampless which makes things a lot different

[proven dagger]

survivor contract dont fail me now

https://tenor.com/view/pray-crying-black-guy-pleading-plead-gif-15911108386383402751

[gaunt bay]

I dont think the number of playable cores available matters as much as the availability of changes to said core

[proven dagger]

HOLY PHANTOM

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-tragodia-gif-12804139519007238966

[gaunt bay]

In every major core comp in is5 you are effectively locked into your team and you almost always know what you will draft as soon as you pick your squad

[rough thorn]

is2 can go to hell for i care , wtf

[gaunt bay]

At least in terms of 6*

You at most add 1 six star or so with how limiting petal is anyways

[proven dagger]

im crying

[gaunt bay]

I say this cuz half the people who play at endgame level basically lock themselves into mastering a specific core anyways

[remote badger]

its pretty real

[gaunt bay]

The concept of tempo draft is pretty much dead in 5/6 for example

[sly harness]

it isn't dead in IS6

[gaunt bay]

Its for a different purpose

[sly harness]

for f2 Bosky you need to chose +1 6* from what you get in vochers on f1

[rustic spade]

Im not sure if im understanding the drawback you see on this, for flinger/gvg lamp squads its like that yeah, you dont draft that many ops and have ros carrying through most stages but i think part of that is that stages dont require that much to be solved, in non lamp squads your draft is a lot more flexible and you lean towards the vouchers you get, you will also find yourself having to use different solutions for the endings and wont always have all your operators gigabuffed by triple kings and chalice

[gaunt bay]

So tldr lamp is slop

[rustic spade]

Yes

[gaunt bay]

Wow who could’ve predicted this

[sly harness]

lamp is different

[gaunt bay]

[rustic spade]

Become a fatedless tree enjoyer today

🌲 🌲 🌲

[remote badger]

stop playing is5

[earnest shuttle]

cant I play talon with tree squad

[remote badger]

problem solved-

[gaunt bay]

Regardless you do lose the whole enjoyability of learning matchups that is3/is4 had from high relic count inherently

[sly harness]

i enjoyed learning f2 Bosky in IS6 dlc0 a lot

[rustic spade]

Thats the thing, you are always learning here because of the variability in your draft/relics

[inland elbow]

idk this always read as cope to me, talons drafts are just as set as lamp if you're playing to win

like sure you can go teehee and pick something troll

but if you look at cn streamers playing talons, they're using the same talons comp every time

tianli always goes cheeto saki wis m3 for example

[remote badger]

overfitted

ig

[arctic panther]

omg something i can actually draft

[gaunt bay]

Yet no reasonable way to apply what youve learned because of too many differing scenarios

[inland elbow]

I think is5 has its merits like figuring out optimal paths and ev calculations

[rustic spade]

You are never guaranteeing your sniper/medic vouchers in f1 shop as class squads would do, or trag that you would want in non lamp so you are forced into having a different core for f2-4 and play around that to finish your draft, which yeah you can then try to force into something very specific, but you also have the option to diverge a little from it into other viable picks

[inland elbow]

and knowing exactly the minimum you need to pass specific checks like quilon dps and surviving ed5

but I wouldn't say drafts are interesting

[remote badger]

meow
sleepy

[gaunt bay]

Meow

[remote badger]

eep

[gaunt bay]

Go rest!

[remote badger]

https://tenor.com/view/rals-bruhgette-koopa-gfl-girls-frontline-gif-21184875

[inland elbow]

isn't this because you're not playing the best talons comp, ingots squad

which does functionally allow you to get the exact vouchers you want

[gaunt bay]

Damn everyone joins argument to shill their favorite team

😭

[sly harness]

Isn’t it more engaging, though? Even if you know the matchup, you still need to adapt according to your collectibles, etc., whereas in places like IS4, if you know the matchup and it works relicless, you just recreate it and win.

[rustic spade]

Probably, the shops increases the voucher consistency a lot

[proven dagger]

first time in f6 since uh

pre dlc1

[inland elbow]

gl gl

[gaunt bay]

No, because collapses actually mattered in is4

[inland elbow]

but yeah I can see that if you're playing a comp with no inherent plan econ like collection and no voucher forcing via shop like ingots

then voucher rng becomes a significant factor

[proven dagger]

ty

ight guys who should i draft

im feeling prammie?

[gaunt bay]

They are not nearly as persistent or powerful as is4

Theres also like

[proven dagger]

imm in pathfinder rn so i can insta e2

[gaunt bay]

No impact on your draft

[inland elbow]

but also, this do be a self made problem

[gaunt bay]

Or as effective counterplay really

[proven dagger]

im feeling prammie since I don't have any good DOT

[gaunt bay]

Well theres no counterplay whatsoever in is5 outside of drafting resistant units from the getgo

[earnest shuttle]

get pram

[inland elbow]

the skillful drafting 2 flags to counter baro

[arctic panther]

yes

[gaunt bay]

But in 4 you can alter your draft based on collapsals

[arctic panther]

yes yes

[proven dagger]

IS THERE NO F6 BOSKY?!

[arctic panther]

yesyeyeyeysyes

[gaunt bay]

Ya

All in all

Your draft does actually change due to collapses

In 5 u kinda just pray u dont have a bad one on important stage

And then u just pop prosperity on boss

[proven dagger]

I JUST got drum btw

i have 10 coupons

[inland elbow]

if that's the case you must've loved d15 is3 which made you change your draft dramatically depending on your rejection

[proven dagger]

er

[gaunt bay]

I did!

[proven dagger]

should i spam reroll?

[gaunt bay]

D15 is3 was great

Cannot say the same about 18

[inland elbow]

hg delete fosterer genotype plz bro 🙏

[proven dagger]

please tell me garrison is easy

[inland elbow]

pretty easy

[proven dagger]

i have never done this stage before

it has r6 enemies i can tell

[rustic spade]

There will always be one theortical best squad on every IS but i think a big part of what makes is5 fun is how many squads and drafts are viable and you can always start a run under the constraints the squad puts in your playstyle and go from there

[sly harness]

easiest f6 combat

[faint rampart]

susge with the cynik drafts

[arctic panther]

easiest out of the f6 stages imo

[inland elbow]

yeah, that's neat I guess

[proven dagger]

oh you wanna see my squad?

[gaunt bay]

Well is is a great mode for that reason but again, others do it better

[inland elbow]

though I don't neccesarily care that much for it

[proven dagger]

my drafts are relatively normal this time around

[gaunt bay]

Again i go back to this point

[inland elbow]

in my mind, it's up to the game to change up my drafts and make it optimal to do so

in order to maximize win rate

[gaunt bay]

I second that

[arctic panther]

m9 your pram.

[gaunt bay]

I mean sure theres more variety on paper but it doesnt necessarily make for better gameplay

[inland elbow]

like to take a less contentious example for a moment

[rustic spade]

Yeah i guess its just different mindsets, playing for winrate and playing for more variance

[inland elbow]

in stronghold protocol there are comps that are absolutely stronger than others

like SPA, kjerag and victoria are way stronger than sargon

[sly harness]

Prama S3M3?

[proven dagger]

where should i worry about in garrison/

[inland elbow]

but despite this, you should learn every comp

[gaunt bay]

Sargon is so feast or famine

[rustic spade]

SPA forces bans which IS doesnt

[inland elbow]

because the game will ban//softban comps per round

because of this, certain strats become optimal even though in a vacuum they would never be picked

[inland elbow]

but some IS functionally do, while later ones don't

[gaunt bay]

I think the benefit in is is that its not a hardban it just weakens them enough to make them suboptimal and theres an additional layer of skill in determining when that is

[proven dagger]

garrison time

hope yall aint lying about it being easy

[earnest shuttle]

it is

[arctic panther]

right and top lane i guess

[proven dagger]

i see i see

oh this is easy

damn ok

THEYRE BLOWING UP MY SHIT

OH MY GOD I FORGOT ABOUT THAT MECHANIC

[earnest shuttle]

[rustic spade]

We also cant forget that lamp players completely disregard runs where they dont get lamp and force f3 buff, if you did this in SPA too you could always reset until the comp you are trying to force isnt banned

[inland elbow]

wcyd

die (alternative playstyles are good but lamp sucks) alive

I do wonder how different the is5 meta would be if fated encounter resets weren't a thing

for one, I think gvg would be even worse

[rustic spade]

Its just comparing them in equal grounds

You can treat no guaranteed f3 buff and fated encounter as "bans" to the viability of the squad

[proven dagger]

ok i think im good

[rustic spade]

Where you could still gamble on getting them but will lower your winrate while other squads viable without them, or that could still benefit from them would perform better

[gaunt bay]

You could but its such an clear win/lose and the lose is so detrimental to certain teams in a way that theres not as much counterplay you can do

[slate hull]

you can't say I'm good before it is over

[inland elbow]

hey, tianli plays snipermed talons and has a respectable winrate doing 245t3

[gaunt bay]

[inland elbow]

that's why he's a freak the goat

[proven dagger]

i forgor

no healing

uh oh

[gaunt bay]

Youll be uh

Yeah idk

🥹

[inland elbow]

probably fine

[proven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-i'd-win-gif-7220010602787901432

[inland elbow]

but you'll have to actually play weiqi with him

instead of just placing down 4 operators and afking

[proven dagger]

you can afk this?

also these are my tongs

im tempted to roll more for drum but +60% is pretty nice

[crystal niche]

bro wanna redeploy really badly

[slate hull]

might not be bad considering the whole no healing thing

[proven dagger]

im gonna take a shower before i do this stage

[slate hull]

but iirc the vag tiles are only the ranged ones

[crystal niche]

[proven dagger]

i have 9 lp

[crystal niche]

bro cleansing himself of his sins before he goes in

[proven dagger]

the invis guys scare me but im counting on phantom to delete them

dude im gonna be playing this stage like fucking chapter 5 faust 🥀

wait does he always have global range?

[sly harness]

So I will still experiment with it here I had +30% atk

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

no 67 posting for 30 runs

[earnest shuttle]

whats the drafts for EM Territorial Tendencies

[sly harness]

with Knight?

[earnest shuttle]

pompeii pretty much has "global range"

[sly harness]

[earnest shuttle]

uhm perhaps yeah

im okay with either

[sly harness]

Trag (most likely S3)... make sure no -SP
Wis S3
SA2 will help too

you need to setup on the redbox for him

[inland elbow]

Sa2 is a big help with trag yeah

Just gotta lock it down

[gaunt bay]

How broken….

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

(setting up on right is the hardest part)

[earnest shuttle]

yea bc of the bomb drones

[proven dagger]

i think putting prammie at bottom lane in sui strategist might actually save her

[sly harness]

slugs too (you need to insta kill them)

[proven dagger]

what is emptied

[sly harness]

balls/map boundry on all 4 tiles next to the unit

[proven dagger]

oh

if i have no one on the field does he drop balls in phase 2 transition?

[sly harness]

only 4 i think

[crystal niche]

balls^2 = lockdown

[proven dagger]

o

oh my god maybe picking lapp alter really was the better option huh

guess who got contract

thank god i picked up the sp on damage relic

how its going rn

@halcyon flame @cold fjord @open finch real tech, using the relic that heals ops when an enemy dies around them to instakill balls so i can sustain ela by placing ops in range

LETS GO

PHANTOM GAMINGG

[gaunt bay]

El technologia

[proven dagger]

EL TECHNOLOGYYY

[arctic panther]

pram gaming

[proven dagger]

awww my recording didn't pick up the music

the death synced with the drop

phantom doubters in shambles 🙊

also i pretty much brute forced and stalled wang cuz im goated

never doubt degen

[open girder]

On IS2 I did endings 1 and 4 I guess (if this is the right place to check). Can I have a hint on how to get 2 and 3 please? Not the direct answer, just an idea. I'm at d11 if it matters

[arctic panther]

pray you get lucky

[rich thorn]

all are encounters related

and ed3 could be easily fucked up right after f3 boss

[open girder]

So is it like an rng encounter event? Oh damn...I've been to so many encounters already, never seen anything especial like that

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

[faint rampart]

bros playing is3 :poggies:

[sly harness]

@twilit mantle

[rich thorn]

wait

[sly harness]

She killed them in 1 skill

[rich thorn]

thats stupid

sa2 counters 15 sec freeze rejection

[arctic panther]

ange upscale

[rich thorn]

[arctic panther]

better than exu

[rich thorn]

AND I FUCKING TOOK MLY 2ND TIME WITHOUT S3 IN BATTLE

[arctic panther]

hows that s2 working out for you

[sly harness]

Iirc she can counter it too with starting SP

S2 weird interaction

[arctic panther]

she can counter the -aspd?

[sly harness]

Like from cold or what?

[arctic panther]

from exu s2

[rich thorn]

yep, thx game

instead of +10 ignots

[sly harness]

nah i mean iirc she wont get frozen if you activate her skill on deployment

[floral plaza]

remind me when i got foolish in Is2 and it replaced my boss relic

with random tier 1 book

[rich thorn]

🥹

[errant siren]

Cool.

I want this.

[rich thorn]

damn, at what point from choosing safer battle I`ve become FUCK IT, WE BALLS and jumps into EM

[slate hull]

that is the IS equivalent of taking off the training wheels

but then again there is that 1% of stages where you really don't want the em version

[flint token]

the ominous emerc

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-stare-pepe-sus-gif-6983445641596872640

[rich thorn]

hehe
EM elusive merc
not hehe

[odd rose]

first chetto run

she's so fun

wasn't that good ngl

[faint rampart]

what doesn't kill you makes you stronger :nodders:

[rich thorn]

surely, f4 bosky not gonna fuck up me again

with no izumik 2nd encounter into ending

[odd rose]

what chars are worth leveling for chetto gaming?

[sly harness]

Mon3tr, May, Sneg

[odd rose]

sneg?

not puzzle?

[sly harness]

puzzle isn't free in IS5 and IS6

Sneg is

[odd rose]

so puzzle not worth the cost i see

anyone else?

[sly harness]

Saki

[odd rose]

already leveled

is there any need to e2 sneg?

or should i leave her e1 sl7

[sly harness]

if you want to really use her having e2 to easier scale her HP for surviving in e.g. IS5 ed5 will be good

[proven dagger]

clarity done

need more hp and shield

[odd rose]

that map is horrible

OMG

THE MEMORIES

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162997883029692426/1433289273401938022/Sequence_01.gif

[sly harness]

just draft melee

[proven dagger]

weird ass bosky

[arctic panther]

are you going to Retrieve or not

[proven dagger]

i sure want to

i killed foot and did clarit

its one of those weird runs

i dont have drum

bell has 0 stacks

i have stir fry though

but otherwise it's a dry run

its just a shitshow lmao

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-arknights-lahabrea-ff14-final-fantasy-xiv-gif-26400684

i dont think im gonna make it through this ed2 fight but we'll see

[arctic panther]

wtf is that

[gaunt bay]

Meow

[proven dagger]

i dont think im winning LOL

YATO GOT SMUSHED

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1371942291849351259/1468641481140076574/sakikofkyou.gif

why are we here

just to suffer

i have no idea how i cleared clarity

i wanna clear ed23 with 10 ops at most

i wanna take my drafts out back and shoot them in the back 5 times and rule it a suicide

tempo? roles? we don't do that here

[worn falcon]

Any tips for IS6 ending 3? What operators do I need? Lots of medics?

[slate hull]

healing defender to block wang and a medic with big range like purestream (who also gets you yan points) and you should be good

personally I like wis for ed3 because she is good at exploding balls, but you can draft whoever as long as they can clear waves of mobs

[rich thorn]

haruka is premium option

and ye

[worn falcon]

Yan points important?

[rich thorn]

need someone like mlynar or hoshi2 for pathfinder battle

[arctic panther]

for some doubt nodes yes

[slate hull]

oh yeah, the pathfinder battle is more annoying than the actual ending

I have done it with leizi2 a few times, but it is not a good time without dp and/or sp relics

[worn falcon]

Does Raidian work on this ending?

[arctic panther]

raidian works everywhere in is6

you're actively hindering yourself if you're not drafting her

[worn falcon]

True.

[proven dagger]

without DP and SP relics on Clarity it's sorta CC check i find

[proven dagger]

pozy revival

oh wait thats kroos

[gaunt bay]

Damn how broken is exu

[sly harness]

The matchup into EM has crit rng

[worn falcon]

Is there a list of who counts as a Yan operator?

[gaunt bay]

There is

Cba to find it though

:joyplush:

[proven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[upper anchor]

Texas counts as yan?

[carmine token]

just ignore penguin logisics

[proven dagger]

pengin logistics is yan ye

lung lung lung larphur

[carmine token]

cuz they are an lungmen comapny whcih part of yan ig

[quaint garden]

2 DP Passenger 🔥

[proven dagger]

2

[carmine token]

https://tenor.com/view/aoi-todo-todo-jjk-larp-tears-gif-2623583927808654264

[worn falcon]

Actually how many Yan do you need to clear Doubt nodes? It's been awhile...

[sly harness]

2 for 1 collectible or 4 for 2

[carmine token]

2/4

[cursive verge]

I thnk I have come across a doubt conditjon needing 6

[vital helm]

Ong this was butt clenching for me entire time

[slate hull]

you might be thinking of hope or something else, 6 yan operators would be wild

[vital helm]

[sly harness]

the is 6 candleguests option in 1 of the Legend nodes

[tulip hemlock]

ts starting to look like something

[sly harness]

(the circle under him)

[vital helm]

Which ending boss is hard in is6 btw ?

[sly harness]

ed2 then ed3 (mainly the debuffs)

[main bison]

ed4, Ascalon or Ethan?

deciding who to send, IS6 of course

[sly harness]

like you are in f6 Bosky?

[main bison]

I'm F4 right now

[vital helm]

U saying 2 me ?

[main bison]

but I finally hit the Scout

[sly harness]

you will want Ascalon en route

[sly harness]

yes ed2 is the hardest... but Exu2 trivialize it anyway

[vital helm]

Dang

[main bison]

who would you send then Lukas?

[sly harness]

Myrtle

or Amiya or reserve op

[main bison]

left any good?

I sent Myrtle

[arctic panther]

free candles for f6 bosky

[quick steppe]

incredible in general

migrate known good foldertal

[main bison]

uh, I just Destroyed Yi

like it wasn't even a contest...

[upper anchor]

He doesn't do much himself

[main bison]

uh

[quick steppe]

-108

[main bison]

I usually struggle with him, especially in Alternate, but he legit folded

[arctic panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603595771287437322/1437312860077162657/eef2f6a5b8d27c3db973dcb3c2b0eda511145481.gif

[sly harness]

Ascalon solves it

[main bison]

no it doesn't

I didn't know the map and everything leaked on the left side

I had nothing that could stop that entire left side

[sly harness]

https://youtu.be/MD5atqRDa6Q?si=fmDenQCkanAE2Pw4

[vital helm]

I want what the map designer is having because ts looks like spawn of satan

[desert brook]

map designer that punishes you for spawnkill

i think its a cool map

[vital helm]

Btw should I have started from is 1 then go in chronological order ?

[rich thorn]

and closing/nuking statuegists

[arctic panther]

you need to go back in time to start from is1

[desert brook]

tbf if you nuke statuegeists then its -10

not too bad

better than -108

[vital helm]

If I start now is it a waste ?

[arctic panther]

though yeah you should play as much of is2 as possible before moving on to other is themes because you'll never want to go back to is2 after playing the others

[arctic panther]

is1 was a temporary event

the list starts from is2

[vital helm]

Ah alright

[arctic panther]

phantom and crimson solitaire

[main bison]

I destroyed the busses from the left side on the right side, but now that makes sense

[gaunt bay]

Yan work visa :ya:

[main bison]

this was helpful, thanks

I could have easily done this had I known what to do

more learning

that said, maxed out for the month, so I'll probably forget it all next month when I try

[upper anchor]

1.2k att Gummy

[open girder]

✅ or ❌
Is this Flower one of the things necessary for Endings 2 and 3?

[brittle violet]

first time doing this and its on emergency cause stupid me refreshed it, whats the priority to defend here?

[sly harness]

One thing I like a lot about IS3 is that in most cases I can freely take temp ops

[rich thorn]

damn

gnosis as temp

[brittle violet]

I kinda got a bad run (ish)

[open girder]

If IS3 and the others are half as fun as IS2 I'm already hyped for them all

[rich thorn]

IS3 is not fun at all

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

🫃

[deft breach]

Temps stay if I hold the voucher in IS6 right?

[rich thorn]

no

same as fireworks, they will be not the same

[deft breach]

Damn

[open girder]

I love No Data, my fav type of boss

[open girder]

My team is somewhat fine but the unknown can be scary (All I Ask of You)

I suppose this is Ending 2 or 3

[sly harness]

the was for they guy who is enjoying IS2

[open girder]

I'm loving it

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

sorry, but I cant ping both you and reply my own message, and not make it not weird

[open girder]

From the others I only tried IS6, stopped around d9, wasn't really enjoying it that much (might change opinions later)

[long tundra]

I definitely love rolling double 1s in a Wish Fulfilled node.

My Rusted Iron Hammer...

[open girder]

IS2 has been crazy fun since the very start

[rich thorn]

play is4

its peak

is3 is torture simulator

[sly harness]

[sly harness]

we are not in 2024, time to move on

[rich thorn]

and not touch is3

🥀

[long tundra]

I just need to do the last two Difficulties and I'm (mostly) free.

[sly harness]

52 more

[open girder]

Holy frick!! This is so cool!! 🔥

[rich thorn]

true maso

dalao

[rich thorn]

someone gonna die here

[quick steppe]

hit count final boss vs bsl 😭 😭

[rich thorn]

ngl, only chance is to nuke with hoshi2

[sly harness]

there is a relicless Saki burst

[brittle violet]

Help me I honestly dont want to fuck up my first run on ed3, any tips?

[quick steppe]

huhuhu next to logos ☕

[rich thorn]

trag on s1

[quick steppe]

lowkey get purestream next time

but just deploy everything and you should be fine

[rich thorn]

mizuki on s2

[quick steppe]

wang is not a hard boss

[rich thorn]

oh wait

thats a wang