is-station

[sly harness]

S2 - versatility, global ish range, hits air when unit has takeoff, hit count
S3 - bursting tanky enemies, extra tile of range

It will cost key

[cursive verge]

[sly harness]

You are missremembering

[glacial socket]

this also applies with raidian S2 and S3 right?

[earnest shuttle]

then I got lucky ig
didnt cost any key

[sly harness]

(I guess because 0 light)

[earnest shuttle]

Oh cool

[sly harness]

It normally costs keys

[earnest shuttle]

also the knight died

[sly harness]

I didn't know it may be free

[sly harness]

Where

Gunes and order

[earnest shuttle]

at the stage where theres a laterano priest

[sly harness]

[earnest shuttle]

yep

I baited with roadblock but too late so knight took like 2 hit

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

decisions

[earnest shuttle]

wait does this mean i still have to fight him ?

[cursive verge]

apparently someone on yt has been recommending kestrel for IS

[remote badger]

who

[cursive verge]

nvm the guy who said this misremembered

twas RA not IS

[paper notch]

doesnt make it less bad 🙏

[sly harness]

I recommend Kestrel too

Her skin is very cool

[paper notch]

her skin so peak

[sly harness]

Guess another skin that I will buy just for the home screen (like Tsukinogi)

[faint rampart]

took me serious amount of time to remember who kestrel is

[cursive verge]

leizi2

[faint rampart]

another day of exploding on hollow visage

[sly harness]

Nice floor

[slate hull]

foggers

[crystal niche]

I see

[faint rampart]

should've stalled him on right 😵‍💫 one error and hes gone

[crystal niche]

I don't get toll for roads

do I not need to use coupons when I travel vertical?

what is the coins use

[slate hull]

you can move vertically anywhere

still need coupons

[crystal niche]

when in coffer right?

not tossed

[slate hull]

I think so, it is -5 ingots if you toss it

[crystal niche]

?

[earnest shuttle]

where did I go wrong this time, beside the exu2 placement

[sharp tree]

Which is would be the most fun after i complete is 2

[steel relic]

4

[slate hull]

I only had this coin 1-2 times, I think it locks you into regular paths if you beat the stage you are on right now

but I am working with a very limited set of memories

[faint rampart]

3 and then 6

[crystal niche]

[slate hull]

otherwise it would be too powerful for a coin you don't even have to toss, straight up explore every node on the floor as long as you have enough coupons powerful

[sly harness]

1. Not taking Yato
2. I will give it a closer look a bit later

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

2. Ignore Trag just Exu there
3. SA bottom (he should survive)
4. The rejections aren't bad, ignore them (don't get SA sick) and don't bring robots (you want bodies spamable with SA2)
5. Exu2 S3 to redeploy SA if he dies
6. For the second wave of throwers wait out the DR Wis would one cycle then place trag top ig
7. Lem nuke was a good idea but you would need more SA2 slashes

[earnest shuttle]

I see, thanks
for the second wave, is there a timer or a certain count of enemies for them to be out ?

[sly harness]

Not sure what you are exactly asking about, check tomimi

[earnest shuttle]

[crystal niche]

is cocoons max 100 per toss

[sly harness]

99

[crystal niche]

this is gonna be a long night

well ig I'm also stacking mindfullness so it's fine

[paper notch]

anti highroll mechanic

wow

[earnest shuttle]

75 seconds
or simply just right after the first wave of thrower start moving, the 2nd wave spawn

[sly harness]

d15 ooc solutio

[desert brook]

schwarz try not to be useless dogshit challenge (i thought she would be able to kill at least one enemy)

[crystal niche]

WHAT

this can happen?

[desert brook]

yeah

[solar tree]

the real question is why they kept that in

1 billion more rng to my rng based integrated strategies mode

:ya:

[desert brook]

to make it so you have to spend hope to get it guaranteed

:XD:

[sly harness]

not an rng but bad decision, you can just pay 2 Hope

[errant siren]

I thought that's for Brand Sea.

[errant siren]

just give her a Heavyshooter hand

[desert brook]

thats the one that executes enemies under 30% hp right?

well the enemy wasnt even under 30%

[errant siren]

Yep

[ashen sundial]

can haruka replace eyja2 for gvg suh2a is5

if i manage to get a supporter voucher without silence or pstream

[quick steppe]

unlikely

hand

is stinky

if anything quercus

[rich thorn]

and not enuff range for lotus healing

🥀

[sly harness]

and no elemental healing

Mon3tr can be used there though (but it will definitely change some matchups)

[carmine plover]

does playing on higher difficulty on is3 increase the ecosequence lv reward?

somehow I'm playing in difficulty 6 and still got the same amount of lv (3) as difficulty 0

[sly harness]

d7+ gives the highest multiplier x1.5

[inland elbow]

Mulberry was the og eyjaless cope

[crystal niche]

any relicless is6 ed2a solutions that doesn't include yato alt?

[inland elbow]

Ed2a? That doesn't use yato alt normally

[crystal niche]

then what does it use

[inland elbow]

Exu alt, radian, hitcount solution

https://b23.tv/NbCxIu8

[crystal niche]

is the best thing to camp on right side

or attack left as well

[inland elbow]

You abuse the killgate to kill the boss

[crystal niche]

wow 5 op clear

[sly harness]

this isn't relicless

[crystal niche]

shhh we don't look at the drums

[sly harness]

relicless is like Exu, Lem, Raidian, Ascalon and one more

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WKUnBSEuT/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

Ela

[crystal niche]

does it really need a bosskiller like lem

[sly harness]

the red number is a time out countdown

[crystal niche]

wtf lemuen is

an essential part

[sly harness]

and all needs to be p6 most likely

classic relicless

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

(i am not sure how bad it is, but the blue box setup sucks a bit with Knight because Exu doesn't get enough healing and dies)

[muted tiger]

I'm just going to unban Wis'adel until I get a 245 run off at all in the first place.

Improvement can come, when I frankly have a better baseline of skill to work with and can do 245 at all with consistently.

[cursive verge]

Le me slacking on 245 until I am done finisbibg my gvg ops

[jolly wasp]

Imma kms

[sly harness]

holy draft

[muted tiger]

Proceeds to fail to get Talons or Lamp in first encounter.

[cursive verge]

Wow vigna

[jolly wasp]

She was useful

But I couldn't beat the stage

[cursive verge]

What did she do

In your run

[jolly wasp]

At the right needed someone with high atk to stall 5 mfs with Mon3tr
And she did the job

[muted tiger]

I'm currently specializing Gummy S1.

[cursive verge]

And what did raidian do

[arctic panther]

take up deployment slots

(and hope)

[earnest shuttle]

moral support

[arctic panther]

[rough thorn]

using raidian on non is6

[slate hull]

I really wish Raidian had some kind of mod that made her useable, make the summon limit 4, make them cost 12 and have them take up 0.5 of a deployment slot

some kind of middle ground between the absolute insanity of is6 perks and the rest of the game

[arctic panther]

this is what mod b should've been

[rough thorn]

more like i wish raidian only got 1 mod for her is and the other for general things , but no here 2 mods for her is , dayum must be good as a front picture of is6

[muted tiger]

On second thought. This isn't actually teaching me much besides Wis'adel really broken.

[gusty siren]

I accidentally got to ed 4 on IS6 during the free Shu mission and I got fucked because the floating asshole had more health than I anticipated

[muted tiger]

You mean you don't just get to floor 5 and dip?

[gusty siren]

It was snowballing pretty good so kept going

[slate hull]

you got to floor 5, might as well beat up some stuff before dipping

[cursive verge]

I dip rifht when I finish the mission even mid-combat

[sly harness]

he has 90% damage taken reduction while he is moving

or are you talking about the dragons

[muted tiger]

Wtf. I'm weird!

[slate hull]

well no, pretty sure most people here are saying they'd rather finish this as quickly as possible

[gusty siren]

The floaty dude who accompanies the large goat thing

But that would make sense

[sly harness]

ye 90% dr

[gusty siren]

I’ve never gotten to this ending before lmao I just got here by pressing buttons

[sly harness]

although on d0 only 3 millions effective HP

[gusty siren]

Starting to feel like I should stop playing d9 for a minute and learn how to actually do shit before ramping it back up again

[muted tiger]

The good news this run is that I managed to get to floor 4, rob Cannot, and I feel significantly more op than I was in the many many previous runs of fails.

[sly harness]

you can develop bad habits playing on low difficulties

[gusty siren]

Because free Shu mission felt like a nice walk compared to the usual visceral shafting I get on d9+ runs

Fair

[sly harness]

if you want to learn high diffs, play high diffs

[gusty siren]

I do but they’re straight up cbt sessions to me

[muted tiger]

The bad news is that I robbed Cannot, didn't get into a Lost and Found, and now I'm going to pick up the E4 relic sooner or later (hopefully) with absolutely zero access to the Ingot ASPD relics, and will probably die horribly in about a floor from now.

[crystal niche]

Yo is jinxi border tavern second option of 30 ingots for 2 candles only once?

[sly harness]

infinite

[crystal niche]

FUCK YEAH

[gusty siren]

Tavern eats one of your candles though

[crystal niche]

Infinite 1 candle

[muted tiger]

Yeap, this run's almost definitely a fail.

[crystal niche]

[gusty siren]

I’m gonna steal their wine if they keep eating my one candle

I want all my candles

This is why I hate taxes

[muted tiger]

Sin - absolutely failing to get the E4 relic before I got to floor 5.

[gusty siren]

Pain

[sly harness]

wait are you playing Lamp or Talons/fatedless?

[muted tiger]

I'll play it through and do E5 at least.

[muted tiger]

This is a Lamp run.

[sly harness]

Lamp should always take Petal on f3

lnf is "guarnteed" there

[muted tiger]

Anyways, since I'm making it to E5 at this point, sponsor me Mon3tr potentials.

[arctic panther]

doodle:

[muted tiger]

anyways, onto banning Wis'adel for myself.

The fact that it took me barely any attempts to make it to E5 with a Wis'adel start means that Wis'adel is too big a massive crutch for me.

Proceeded to die horribly 5 seconds later.

[cursive verge]

moment

[rustic spade]

What are you looking to get from banning wisadel?

[muted tiger]

Having smaller amounts of skill issue.

[rich thorn]

ban trag and exu2 then too

[rustic spade]

Im not sure how banning wisadel would solve that

[muted tiger]

I think I needed more defensive relics?

[rich thorn]

for foot prob yes?

but if we talk about is5, nope

worst what could happen is -70% hp and minimiya at same time

[sly harness]

in IS5 you want +100% HP for ed4 and ed5 other than that you are mostly fine even with base HP

[rustic spade]

is this usually how it goes for lamp? like lets say for example you already secured enough hp for ed4 and 5, if given the choice between something like aegis/bridge/vessel, would you refuse it for slightly more damage?

[quick steppe]

damage check is p brutal
i think lamp might not tbh since you have 100% chalice and 3k

but like

you want more room for error

(also tree squad 2 + 2 pool forever)
talons might have more of an interesting question since you might need the damage to not get statchecked but you also have to fill in a survival hole from talons +20%

[faint rampart]

love his control

[rustic spade]

hmm i guess damage is a bad comparison, probably a better way to rephrase it would be if you would rather play on the edge with what you need and commit into getting that over trying to look for ways in which certain relics might allow you to do things differently, like brute force something by having tons of hp while lacking damage but committing to playing around it since there is no guarantee of getting what you need for the conventional strategy

[sly harness]

Hard questions , I am not that good at IS5. Certainly they are cases when picked extra HP will be useful but it would be hard to generalize this stuff

[rich thorn]

• not that good

[sly harness]

Lamp has a list of specific steps and set anticipated power levels at give points. If everything goes accordingly you don't need extra stuff

If something goes wrong you adapt

[sly harness]

f1 Rhoder's Gate

[rich thorn]

damn, should be in banlist

[sly harness]

Tbf beside insane draft the power level of the run wasn't outstanding

It was matching like Lamp baseline

• above average Młynar

alos i had 7 investment so no -999

One day I will go back to IS5 and try to become better at Lampless

[rustic spade]

🌲 🌲 🌲

[faint rampart]

🌲 🌲 🌲

[rich thorn]

🌲 🌲 🌲

[sly harness]

So I got this clear again this time while precision following the timing of Exu skill.

• cancel the first skill 3 DP after placing Kroos
• cancel the second skill right after killing the second dog
  I will need more testing with this precise timing (also those units must be maxed)

The small optimization I can think of can be delaying the second Exu skill if the fish won't be able to hit Yato

[inland elbow]

I'd probably go for more hp to increase leeway from mistakes, because ros comp doesn't lack in damage

but like, gvg has to go for more damage because base lamp isn't enough

soul escort is in a weird spot too since yato alt really likes more max hp

[inland elbow]

I mean, if you know you have exactly what you need to win then you don't need to go for higher variance stuff right

like for example in my snipermed 245t3 runs, I often run into the decision of whether I want to take tinman

since the extra toil is really nice for carting around lingerers so that I can fish for hp relics

but the only reason I need to do this is because 245t3 requires more than +100% max hp so I need to fish

in 245t1 there's no need for this so I never take tinman

[plucky root]

Do i play, submit run somewhere and get the role?

[inland elbow]

yeah is central

different discord server

[plucky root]

Oh

Everywhere i go

I see halca face

[sly harness]

What is bro doing?

And here a triple Territorial Tendencies

[sly harness]

Where are my e2

[inland elbow]

4 e2 ur gaming

[sly harness]

and 5.5 e1

[inland elbow]

tbf trag and sa are at 80% power at e1

so like

ur not losing out on much

plus you have the relicless solves for almost every stage

[sly harness]

there are cases where this e2 is very helpful

[sly harness]

I should pick determination, without it it would be much better

Batter as in relicless

Anyone interested in the recording of this? Should I upload this?

Normal wfu

-1

Collectibles

[faint rampart]

lukas ytuber arc when

[desert brook]

cool

[deft breach]

Is there anything special about the four seasons brush and four corners paint relics?

[desert brook]

you can give them to dusk in dusk node i think

[deft breach]

Her leisure variant?

[desert brook]

yeah

[sly harness]

It is a Legend

Dusk doesn't have a leisure

[desert brook]

oh yeah

that makes sense

[deft breach]

Huh, don't think I've seen it yet

[slate hull]

it is insanely rare, I never managed to get both the encounter and dusk legend in one run

it is a good thing I am not too concerned with 100% the collection

[gaunt bay]

meow

[remote badger]

meow

[gaunt bay]

haiii :3

[remote badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1471901390891647079/1502733469908865035/togif.gif

[desert brook]

do i just lose

[chrome tangle]

no

play around it

[desert brook]

this feels so ass

i didnt even get an EM on f1

[cursive verge]

Welcome to IS2

[dreamy rampart]

About the ending 4 on is6 how do i able to scroll all my main team for the final fight if there's only 1 scout node appeared throughout floor 3-5

Also does it mean i can't use my scroll team for the rest of floor 3-5?

[arctic panther]

f6 lets you scroll multiple ops

only scrolling 1 op in the scout node is the best option actually

[arctic panther]

the doubt nodes in the special bosky let you

[cursive verge]

This reminds me I shoul stop slacking on ed4

[dreamy rampart]

so i should scroll someone one op that i barely use or fodder

?

[brittle grove]

Rare exp debuff command, next IS have it bigger surely

[desert brook]

-100% exp relic

[dreamy rampart]

Which one is better overall

[cursive verge]

Yin-shish flask in general
I think wei-chien rule could be good if you are relic farming but I am not sure about that, besides you aren't relic farming

[real pendant]

why is-3 boss so tanky with 90 art res

[errant siren]

Use Phys against him

Not sloopy GoldenGlow.

Or LappyAlter.

[earnest shuttle]

in case my exu is not maxed i guess I could use the dice

[desert brook]

i havent drafted gg in years

i think back when i did draft her she was one of my only raised casters

oh yeah

the last time i drafted her was when she was a good solution to ed2 knight lmao

[real pendant]

yee
i mostly use my Virtousa for delete them

[inland elbow]

she was never a good solution to ed2 knight bruh

[desert brook]

on low diff yes

i dont think i had anyone else back then

i have a feeling i had mlynar but i didnt use him for some reason

not sure what people use for knight nowadays

[earnest shuttle]

lemuen

[cursive verge]

High diff likes weedy and ange I think

And yeah lemuen

[desert brook]

to push knight?

[cursive verge]

I need lemuen 🥀 and her skin

[earnest shuttle]

ahh no, weedy for ed4

[desert brook]

oh

yeah that makes sense

[earnest shuttle]

but shes still important nonetheless

[crystal niche]

do u even have her dawg

[cursive verge]

Apparenrly she pushes knight all the way in ed2 asw

That said I am parroting off isc guidee here

[desert brook]

s3 i guess?

[earnest shuttle]

yep

[cursive verge]

Exactly why I need her

[desert brook]

i see

[crystal niche]

[cursive verge]

Surelt I can skillfully off-rate her

(Just dont be like dorothy banner where I got 2 irene before dorothy)

[crystal niche]

offrate hoeass*

[desert brook]

that sounds really funny but i feel like knight is too fat to move more than a tile

[crystal niche]

[desert brook]

maybe it uses push book?

[cursive verge]

Hence ange

[earnest shuttle]

or u can draft tragodia to cheese him if u dont have either ange nor weedy like me

[cursive verge]

Theres also this, I could be wrong

[desert brook]

how is push distances calculated

[earnest shuttle]

(I have weedy now but not raised yet)

[cursive verge]

(I need to m9 mod6 her, shes only s3m3 modx1 rn)

[desert brook]

mfw i forget trag exists because i dont have him

[earnest shuttle]

[desert brook]

does her s1 have use in is3?

[cursive verge]

Idk any particular usecase but nobody corrected me in isc when I said I was going to m9 her

[desert brook]

[cursive verge]

Oh well I will watch that weedy playlist later

[desert brook]

i have a pretty built weedy but i didnt know she was good for is3 when i played it years ago

[muted tiger]

New run, step one - run proceeds to fail to get two plans start of first encounter talon/lamp.

[cursive verge]

I certed hoe

(Offrate hool is fine too, wheres rbp with his hool curses)

[desert brook]

which weedy mods does she need

[cursive verge]

I was told both

[desert brook]

24 module block

surely this is enough for most uses?

[cursive verge]

Surely

[muted tiger]

Aaannnddd I almost got Kaz Falled again.

[real pendant]

don't accept her invite

[simple rover]

wish me luck

[crystal niche]

oh that stir fry last relic hurts

[remote badger]

no
we should accept

combat is life

[simple rover]

yo Wang is easy yo...

[crystal niche]

I mean

when was he ever hard

stir fry last relic still hurts

cuz u get no stacks

[simple rover]

first try baby

https://tenor.com/view/w-wisadel-wiš'adel-arknights-darthilles-gif-17308451293588725777

[crystal niche]

Do I see ntr in teh middle

[simple rover]

og nearl

[crystal niche]

[simple rover]

hhhooo the art looks cool

[faint rampart]

wang is cool

[simple rover]

im kinda unluck on this run... so i need someone to heal wisadel and make sure she wont be surrounded by flaws

but hey... who needs lucky when u can W it...

omg thank god... for a second i though i only complete the first one

[grim swan]

I'm satisfied

[crystal niche]

speccast

[errant siren]

But she's cute.

[crystal niche]

she's sweet but a psycho

altho ig that's ur type

[errant siren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/742745205857583164/1115425434717405286/33c4c159722b230b8d8f39b9243225f72805167.gif

I wish we can play them eventually

[crystal niche]

we can play my unc pony first

[remote badger]

what psycho
i only see combats

[cursive verge]

Those truly strong never shy away from fights

[thin wraith]

Is hoederer good for IS gameplay

I'm also thinking I should get him so I could combo him with silverash alter

[remote badger]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Hoederer. I try to play Kal'tsit. My Hoederer deals more damage. I try to play Ray. My Hoederer deals more damage. I try to play Wisadel. My Hoederer deals more damage. I want to play Sniper/Med. The best team has Hoederer. I want to play Def/Supp, Guard/Vanguard. They both want Hoederer.

He grabs me by the throat. I buy him a laptop. I cook for him. I boot up u-officials stream. He isn't satisfied. I pull Qiubai. "I don't need this much cc" He tells me. "Give me more aspd." He grabs Ulpianus and forces him to throw himself at a Sarkaz Devourer. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Chalice."

I can't get Chalice, I don't have enough ingots. He grabs my investment savings. It's empty. "Guess this is the end." He grabs Ines. He says "Ines, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, next attack restores 25% hp application. What a cruel world.

type shit in is5

[thin wraith]

[remote badger]

hes ass in IS that aren't is5

[thin wraith]

What skill should I mastery

[remote badger]

1

[thin wraith]

[cursive verge]

1 and 2, and uh apprwntly 3 has some super turbo omega gamma beta alpha lamda niche usage

[thin wraith]

Well ig I'll mastery 1 and 2

Since s2 is good with SA alter

[cursive verge]

Yeah honestly you can skip 3

[glacial socket]

how do you get sui as your boss again?

[earnest shuttle]

sui feet ?

[glacial socket]

yes

forgot how to trigger it so sui becomes the boss

[remote badger]

find a decision node in bosky

have 30 ingots

[crystal niche]

gamba

[remote badger]

then in next combats afterwards it stab the feet to 50% hp

[chrome tangle]

where aspd pot

😔

[errant siren]

Only viable in IS5

Due to ASPD+ATK buff

Which with S1 heal he denies to die fast.

Outside of IS5, ultimately sucks ass in any turn

[real pendant]

blud didn't hesitate

owo

[sly harness]

And with S2 he perm stuns 🧑‍💻

[south lodge]

Finally finished tour 0

[remote badger]

now do d1 to 10

[south lodge]

Time to suffer tour 1

[south lodge]

All for mommy radian

[remote badger]

theres nothing to suffer

[south lodge]

I am stupid

[remote badger]

just stall yi better

[south lodge]

I got negative iq

It took me awhile how to stall yi

[remote badger]

no handholding

im not doing it

[south lodge]

Good

I like it when i get a headache

[severe oasis]

can i hold your hand?

[remote badger]

u can

[dreamy rampart]

why the layout for ed1 is6 boss changed?

[severe oasis]

are you doing ending 4?

[remote badger]

ur doing ed4

[crystal niche]

is the free toss coin given again on a floor after getting out of bosky

[sly harness]

Floor + Boskies on the given floor are counted as one

Also what free toss

[gaunt bay]

meow

[crystal niche]

oh are there no free toss on d15?

well

not my problem

d10 rules!

[gaunt bay]

meow

[remote badger]

meow

[sly harness]

d12 increase the price on retossing and shop refreshing by 1

[crystal niche]

oh wow so the free retoss goes to 1

[gaunt bay]

how was your day

[remote badger]

factory

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1471901390891647079/1502733469908865035/togif.gif

plus limbus

[hearty crypt]

Quite a distant question but how do you supposed to beat the Chongyue boss in the future expansion without borrowing the power of 10000000 kettles from Ling

[cursive verge]

You learn how to fark relics without ling

[crystal niche]

know the mechanics, get dps, win

[crystal niche]

and highroll

[cursive verge]

Iirc best economy squad in dlc2 is tianshi at high diff

[crystal niche]

doesn't tianshi have a doubt buff

in dlc2

[cursive verge]

Also a candle buff

Ibforgot

But yeah tianshi poggers

[crystal niche]

candle buff is already here

[cursive verge]

Another buff

Or was it an upgrade

Idr

But yeah its buffed

[crystal niche]

[hearty crypt]

Noted, dont play is6 like this be4 (I just pick support squad and got a maxed out Raidan for ease of use)

[cursive verge]

That should work out for d10

[south lodge]

Uhhh should i take this?

[hearty crypt]

If you want end2 then yes

[cursive verge]

Do you wsnt to play ed2

[south lodge]

If not

Avoid it?

[crystal niche]

if not get 1 relic

[sly harness]

Even currently averaging above 100 collectibles isn't hard
Dlc2 will add even more economy related stuff so hitting 100+ collectibles while fishing the good stuff will be what you will need to do

[crystal niche]

[cursive verge]

Btw in your iscmt run I saw you didnt save f1 candles for f2 wonderland was it a misclick or intended

[hearty crypt]

Well is there a friendly guide to do it with skill issue mind like me 🥀 (I dont even understand sỏm terms)

[sly harness]

I assume you won't play one d18?

On low diffs he should be fairly easy even if you play suboptimally

[sly harness]

I had quite a bit of ingots and entering Bosky is a free opportunity to throw cocoon

[cursive verge]

ic

[sly harness]

Also iirc I had e2 Candle Raidian

[cursive verge]

Indeed

[sly harness]

She can already clear something in Bosky

Like Difficult Beginning

[cursive verge]

What other economy squads are good in dlc2

[hearty crypt]

Well I will play d10 max for maxing out rewards

[sly harness]

Tianshi Bureau Squad and Proxy are the big things

[cursive verge]

Is proxy a new adition or am I forgetting a squad

[sly harness]

You can for example play Flowers squad, feel cofer with Flowers and retoss it infinity

[cursive verge]

What lukas said, playing normally works

[hearty crypt]

I dont even know if im playi.g normally lmao, iust spam battle as much as poss then idk

[cursive verge]

Thats pretty normal

[hearty crypt]

Get the 3 flower relic stuff?

[sly harness]

Yes. "omega doodle", every noncombat node will have extra random options. Ranging from just some resources to enter Boksy with some candles and every node because visible

[cursive verge]

Thats

Quite the effect

[crystal niche]

yo should I always pick mindfullness or sometimes i pick the other one?

[sly harness]

Flower Squad effect gives you 1 Coupons if you toss Flower Coin. Get more flower coins and you will be able to retoss infinity because retoss cost only 1 Coupon on d10

[hearty crypt]

And what shall I get with that 🤔 (sry I really dont know)

[sly harness]

For example Flower‐Mindfulness always you to stack infinite LPs

(I am not sure about all the dlc2 coins so there will be something useful too most likely)

You can also stack Risk‐Study infinity

On toss, all allies +200 DEF, but are Frozen for 5s on deployment. Extra +100 DEF on each successive toss.

[crystal niche]

oh fuck

dragon baby

what is his stun radius

[sly harness]

Personally I don't see the situation where the other one is better (there is probably some)

[hearty crypt]

Can those stacked too?

[crystal niche]

does dragon baby still have the glitch

where it doesn't give relic

[sly harness]

On EN probably

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

But tbh I am not sure what affects it

Because sometimes he gives something and sometimes he doesn't

[crystal niche]

wtf

map wide stun???

[sly harness]

His skill?

Only 3 tiles range or something like this

[crystal niche]

oh ok

it seemed map wide lol

[sly harness]

On tomimi you can see his range

3 tiles is a lot

[sharp harbor]

What is May main skill in IS?

[errant siren]

S1

S2 also exists, but when you need to stun some shit and usually not in IS5.

But in IS5 you would prio S1 only most of the time.

[sharp harbor]

[sly harness]

But there is shit to stun in IS5, the chests, Motorized Squad, Frequent Disputes

[gaunt bay]

may stocks if frequent disputes didnt exist

[south lodge]

Yipeee tour 1 finally finished

[carmine token]

📉

[final gale]

good day guys

can i get a good bili bili video of is6 run going ed4? thanks

[cursive verge]

I hab yt vids

Of dakaos

(Aka IS Central players)

[final gale]

can i get links or references??? 🥹

[cursive verge]

https://youtu.be/rFLJxwM_Qoo

Tbh idk if this was mistake-free, I just know he's less likely to makd mistakes

[sly harness]

[carmine token]

we need to one for all ises

[sly harness]

We need one that includes all ISes

[cursive verge]

If you are in IS central, you can find more
There was a tournament where ppl had to fark relics while going for ed4 and they had to submit runs

[craggy shadow]

is4 d18

[earnest shuttle]

thats a myth

[cursive verge]

I am using those runs as my resources to learn how to farm relics and play eith economy squads in general

Is4 d18 is when the world becomes upside down

[carmine token]

when?? Im so :realmad: with how bad typoon is mod was

[gaunt bay]

queen behavior

[sly harness]

But surely you can use it successfully in current IS4

[final gale]

ahh yeh thats a thing yeh.... would visit then tnx

[carmine token]

insane spider killer for ed2 🗣️

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588877582631060/1495429629576614170/13OVP3E6BSBOCJ9ZXT3V.gif

[errant siren]

I was afraid to send that thanks to this Mizuki art.

[earnest shuttle]

no balls

[craggy shadow]

should i delete that

[graceful oasis]

Is there a difficulty requirement to defeat end2 in is5? Also any tips for end2? I don't have gg/lapalter and ascalon

[cursive verge]

Gg/lappalter bad

[earnest shuttle]

true dmg dealer

[cursive verge]

Follow pinned guide here for help

[graceful oasis]

Thanks

[crystal niche]

why does shu have less res than leizi2

[errant siren]

HG knows.

[random leaf]

How do I play this, I can't use my prebuilt ops, and as someone who only plays the story and event

[remote badger]

/pins

[harsh otter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1224969644683825202/1497131900920401970/PINS.png?ex=69ec683c&is=69eb16bc&hm=8427d81160d163439b3ce5f19de8dcbd7cae27b492367a190366bf9c432752ca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[cursive verge]

Iirc theres a 'getting started with is' doc in pins

[ripe summit]

You get in. Try as far as you can. Slowly build upgrades. Have fun

[random leaf]

Lol thanks didn't help at all I'll just skip this

[ripe summit]

It is fun. But we're just doing the normal intro

As fun as RA

[rotund copper]

They fucking switched my silverash skill to s1 when I promote him and game raped me

[signal niche]

Is there a quick strat to clear is5

[remote badger]

u asked for it no regrets
wis+lamp+blueprint

turn everything into wish

only works for ed1

[signal niche]

ed1?

[remote badger]

works for every diff

[signal niche]

is there anything else i should know for this strat?

[remote badger]

have an e2 wis in roster or borrow

have blueprint unlocked

[graceful oasis]

What's the easiest ending to beat in is5 after end1?

[errant siren]

End3 (PatrickAlter)

[graceful oasis]

Thanks

[rich thorn]

you actually use your prebuild ops, but cant start at full power, you firstly get them with recruitment vouchers at e1, and next time you make them e2 with one of main resources - hope

to get hope, you want to do more battles, what give you exp for command lvl, each lvlup gives you hope to get more operators

basically, do more battles, get more operators (you cant get all, need to think what you actually want, and different IS and bosses favors more toward some operators, example Rosmontis op in is5, but not so good in is3)

after that, better check pinned messages, after you get basic idea of playing that mode, and run toward alternative bosses and high difficulty

and yes, at start gonna fail runs, thats normal

• you need to upgrade skill tree, to get more benefits like unlocking new squads, more stats or more staff at start

also, its fine to ask help like - how to do f4-f5 hard stages, like frequent dispute/elusive merc/regular army from IS5

but not good to aks - hop on voice chat, and handhold me

[sly harness]

Missinfo. IS3 is the second best IS for Ros

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/carmen-project-moon-distort-lobotomy-corporation-gif-3698852749371056132

[sly harness]

Like this

[rich thorn]

she is a fucking flinger ok

grrrr

only wis bypass that with s3

and dont dare to talk about contrail and ros s3

[sly harness]

It isn't real but pillars spams it

Maybe not optimal on d18 but still great on d15

[rich thorn]

• OP asks how to play IS
• yeah, rosm pillar spam not optimal for d18 but still great on d15

[slate hull]

might not be the best guide, but it captures the vibe pretty well

[gaunt bay]

ros is okay i guess

[woeful knot]

ros is optimal for snp is3

i was gonna say something but is it even worth it

ros is good in d18, shes one of the core picks in an snp comp, just doesnt do well into ooc

thats about it

[dreamy rampart]

Does End of Times relic work if i'm on the final floor of ending 4 in is6? If i rob Cannot and try to fail

[sly harness]

[sly harness]

Yes it will work in the shop rob

[errant siren]

Will work at shop, but WON'T in any Final Boss battle (ISW-DF battlecode).

[dreamy rampart]

Anything i should know about ending 4 boss in is6?

iirc the big one is invulnerable throughout the stage, dk what he does

[gaunt bay]

you'll be fine

[sly harness]

So many M9

[dreamy rampart]

famous last words

[rich thorn]

yeah, trag prob on s1 or s3

because cant see other ways for u to stall token boss

or gnosis on s1/s3, s1 better if you have good aspd (token have alot lower freeze duration, s3 extends it till skill end)

[cursive verge]

Whale account

[dreamy rampart]

What about blocking the rightmost boss, gummy enough? Or should i switch to s1 radian

[sly harness]

4 block count

[rich thorn]

before 50% yes, but need heal up

[cursive verge]

Archetto and trag s1

[rich thorn]

after no, lukas said, need 4 block

[dreamy rampart]

So i have to deal with 90% dmg reduction?

[rich thorn]

yeah, i can see 3 ways

s1 trag + cheetos

s3 trag

s1 or s3 gnosis, depending on your aspd

[dreamy rampart]

is it dealing with the rightmost boss?

[rich thorn]

yeah

cow is literally dps check

token is gimmick

[dreamy rampart]

trag might get sniped if i deployed him on the right side

if there's ranged enemies

[rich thorn]

nope

all ranged is left red box spawn

only cannons are actually ranged, but they initial spawn

can deal with them before trag deploy

and dont place too close to token too, he deals dmg around him

[dreamy rampart]

Ok finally did it.

idk how i leaked when i was guarding the bottom left box the whole time

[cursive verge]

Big boss is the blue box

Theres no blue box in tbis stage

[crystal niche]

koo when he misinfos

[cursive verge]

Okay but does that actually count

[crystal niche]

yea cuz after the cow dies it goes back

[cursive verge]

I should stop slacking on ed4

[rich thorn]

ed4 pretty easy for now

just gimmicky

dunno how ass it will be on d18 with both ed5 relics tho

and 19m cow

[cursive verge]

I am just uninterested been playing other IS

[rich thorn]

and token what 1shot your ops

[crystal niche]

what are the effects

[rich thorn]

[earnest shuttle]

petal return

[rich thorn]

hp def buff 50%

and atk down 60%

[crystal niche]

[crystal niche]

also wtf bout this

[rich thorn]

half of bells btw

and thats on f6

chongue stage will add another 50% atk debuff on top

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

ed4 is5 petal thing

[cursive verge]

Basically scale or die

[rich thorn]

but worse

2.0

eats your hope

[crystal niche]

no i know

I meant

[rich thorn]

and 50% ignots debuff

[crystal niche]

do we lose all ingots

[rich thorn]

yes

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

you lose all hope and ignots on take

and 50% debuff on exp and ignots

[crystal niche]

wtf

50% ingots?

this is worse than petal

[rich thorn]

yes

yes

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

so at that 4 diff stage

[earnest shuttle]

just highroll 🫃

[rich thorn]

instead of 128 max you get only 64

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

and you sacc bosky for ending 5 always

[crystal niche]

does this effect cocoon

[rich thorn]

and sacc pathfinder for t3

[rich thorn]

prob

cocoon strat is dead anyways

[crystal niche]

[cursive verge]

I did heqr support squad is dead in dlc2

[rich thorn]

on d18

[cursive verge]

So is flower

[rich thorn]

yes its dead

any squad what relies on coin retoss is dead on d18

[earnest shuttle]

coupons taxes

[rich thorn]

or better say

not that much abusable

[radiant burrow]

largely unimportant i realize

https://i.imgur.com/lJDeSD0.png

but in which order do tongbaos apply

[rich thorn]

you either tianshi/tourists/proxy(agent)

or suffer

[graceful oasis]

How do people get stacked buffs in is5?

[radiant burrow]

i was on 34 gold before this toss, so soil to metal would have to apply first for me to get to 47 that i'm at rn. but, visually, cocoon worth was thrown before soil to metal

[earnest shuttle]

all tossed ones will apply effect instantly
or do u mean smth else I dont quite get ur question

[rich thorn]

what happen first

[radiant burrow]

how do you mean instantly

[rich thorn]

ball for +4 ignots and then cocoon

[earnest shuttle]

hmmm

[rich thorn]

or cocoon and then bal for +4

diff is 1 ignot

[radiant burrow]

it was +4 and then cocoon

[cursive verge]

They want to know which tongbao took effect first between cocoom and soil to metal

[radiant burrow]

i thought they applied left to right but it applies right to left

down to up, not up to down

cool stuff

https://i.imgur.com/EKcVAI9.png

[rich thorn]

what buffs ?

[graceful oasis]

Like how they get a lot of atk, aspd, def, etc

[rich thorn]

oh

some relics

[cursive verge]

You see

[rich thorn]

like golden chalice or coin operated toy

[cursive verge]

Theres a f1 emcounter

Near guaranteed

[rich thorn]

both gives aspd depending on ignots

[cursive verge]

Which lets you choose between talons lamp and doodle

[crystal niche]

how tf does lei fa work

[cursive verge]

Easiest way to get buffs is picking lamp

[earnest shuttle]

do many EM stages, go into bosky, buy from shop
for specific stuff like aspd u could play lamp to get chalice in wish fulfilled node

[rich thorn]

place op in tile

[crystal niche]

in ANY piss tile?

[rich thorn]

if its not dead, op turns into candlelguest

no

[cursive verge]

Nah

I think you can see wjich one

[rich thorn]

its marked with visual effect

like lightnings

[crystal niche]

uh

I see nothing

[rich thorn]

it tossed?

[crystal niche]

ofc

[rich thorn]

then it should be on field

its at bosky?

[crystal niche]

yes

[rich thorn]

not working there

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

only at normal stages

[crystal niche]

so have to be normal fights

[rich thorn]

ye

it prob says

[crystal niche]

nop atleast not ingame or the coin desc

[rich thorn]

nwm

yes

you cant use it in bosky, cuz you can use only candleguests there

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

The order doesn't matter I think (maybe even it is set by some index - not sure)

The order in which they take effect is also set (for example all node refresh coins have set order)

[glacial socket]

dude, i locked tf in just for me not knowing you have to get the butterfly first to get the item that triggers the sui boss 😭

[crystal niche]

[radiant burrow]

oh i see. so +4 ingots is hardcoded to go before cocoon?

ty

[sly harness]

About the IS3 playlist I may slow down a bit with it because I want to record some data for the endings rng.

Are there any clears missing that you would particularly like to see?

[sly harness]

Yep

[earnest shuttle]

I would like to see the sarkaz lady encounter battle

wait no, the duck lord

duck lord with 4 or 5 hammer dudes

[sly harness]

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

I have problems with them too

Iirc the Duck stage is Exu + Ela relicless

[crystal niche]

ela

[sly harness]

Wang can solo

[earnest shuttle]

[crystal niche]

p6?

[sly harness]

The one in video is p6

[crystal niche]

did they make use of the extra ball?

[sly harness]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1G2wizyEZe/

[final gale]

ahahhaa lmao its rly fun to enter blind in is

deym imagine this roster isnt supposed to lose at ed4

[faint rampart]

didnt highroll enough

[final gale]

now im wondering

i was told the goal in f7 is to get all through the nodes in wonderland

is that actually viable??? with that squad that give one candle more, only managed to get 8 as starting

[cursive verge]

Did you save candles from f5

[final gale]

and ig i get more by exchanging in plan node with 30 ingots

[final gale]

ahh yeh this must be one mistake I've do

[earnest shuttle]

if u have the bosky tongbao u could reroll and save candle from there as well

[final gale]

coz ngl i never thought we gonna have another bosky in f7 until i actually step on it

[final gale]

ive actually used this after entering f7 boksy

[earnest shuttle]

[final gale]

i am actually surprised to see the 1st boksy that i managed to sweep, rather than the f7 version

which give me the impression u can only do the f7 wonderland once

after that... thats that

[faint rampart]

sweep the first bosky by f3~~-4~~

[final gale]

and im just also surprised how tanky ed4 boss is

[gleaming cedar]

best pick for stamp collection encounter?

[sly harness]

If you get the encounter in Bosky 4->2
Outside of Bosky 3->3

[gleaming cedar]

does wang boss fight at bosky

[sly harness]

No

But you only can use Candleguests in it

[main bison]

how?

already lost to it twice now

no one can live long enough to kill the drone in the middle

[sly harness]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1K68AzmE27/?p=5

Or is it the ed4 variant

[main bison]

I'm doing ed4?

well, trying to anyway

well that didn't work

Raidian got nuked right after I lost Haruka in the middle

yeah, no, that didn't work for me at all

the drones just flew towards the box

[sly harness]

There is 1 save range tile

Bottom left

You can use wisadle but retreat her summons instantly

[main bison]

yeah, this is not working at all

Wisadel doesn't survive long enough to get her still off

[cunning karma]

[main bison]

dude, I don't WTF's going on

[cunning karma]

Wisadel doesn't work in this stage

[main bison]

I don't have any Risk coins up

but I've lost at least 3 times now

this will be the 4th

[sly harness]

She does

[main bison]

and yeah, I've lost

that was pathetic

I forget, is it F4 or F5 where you save candles for ed4?

[errant siren]

[main bison]

that explains somet things...

[errant siren]

F5

[main bison]

I haven't done this in so long that I've forgotten stuff

because when I would try this trash in the past I got so frustrated that I quit

because it wasn't worth it

[sly harness]

Bait the small bombs first and this tille is safe from UFOs

[main bison]

it's not working

I don't have any HP on my operators so no one survives even 1 hit

[cunning karma]

he's not in F6

[steel relic]

They don’t need to survive they just need to get rid of the bombs

[sly harness]

Wait I am.... Getting confused

It was normal Bosky

Doing two things at once

[steel relic]

<@&586570970345635868>

[sly harness]

This is the setup for normal Bosky but if you fuck up it won't work because the drin with the device and ASPD dron doesn't respawn if you kill them once

[main bison]

nope

[main bison]

this is normal Bosky

I'm just not having the best time/skill

honestly, it's BS like this that makes me want to quit AK after 6 years

I just can't do it

[cunning karma]

you shouldn't try to tank the bomb, just wait for DP first and put someone to bait the bomb, put your DPS, and then put another guy to bait. If you use Wis as your dps you'll need to retreat the revenants immediately after skill so that they don't get targeted by the ursus drone

[main bison]

I don't have the DP to do that

it doesn't matter how long I wait

[cunning karma]

wait for DP first

wtf

[main bison]

yeah, everyone costs +5 DP

so the drones go for the box

sorry, +4DP

what went from a meh ok run is turning into frustration and chaos for me

[cunning karma]

you have like 100 seconds until they move

[main bison]

I don't have the DP, I do not know what else to tell you

I can't pause trick to remove operators

I'm about to lose vs Yi

[lunar moat]

I for sure didnt know Holo could lift undercover enemies and civilians

[main bison]

news to me too

[faint rampart]

noway

[sly harness]

If something kills you it is Dream of Curio fault

[main bison]

It's alternate Ed1

And even if it's normal Yi, I still struggle

D12

I've literally forgotten everything about IS6

[desert brook]

yeah because youre not using raidian s1 smh

[main bison]

I'm not using anything right now

But I do use her S1 for Yi

[errant siren]

Raidian exists
"about to lose vs Yi"

Boi, you don't need anything else.

[main bison]

No?

I'm at lunch, you help me when I get back then, I screw stuff up in this game ALL of the time

[rough thorn]

so for snipermed in is6, which starting squad better for it? also i borrowed ros since i dont hv her

[sly harness]

If you want to play Sniper medic you play the class sniper medic class squad

[rare glacier]

genius

[rough thorn]

emm yeah in is6 there are 2 squad fit those 2 class, like tactical ranged squad or high ground breaching squad

[sly harness]

No no the breaching squads are fake

[cursive verge]

Say top gun squad (sakiko band) can beat d18 ed5 in is6 right

[sly harness]

Don't touch them they stink

[rough thorn]

also i dont think a support unit get the benefit from tactical ranged squad? like they wont get promoted immediately upon recruitment

[sly harness]

Yes and it is good. The promotion gets saved for the first unit you recruit in the run

[cursive verge]

Asking cuz a 1 month old account claims to have beaten d18 is6 with saki band

Don ask me where they got saki from if they started a month ago

[sly harness]

So use it in pathfinder to instantly get Candled e2

[cursive verge]

Oh well they caj beqt ed1 surely

[sly harness]

I mean it is IS6 you can beat it without operators

[cursive verge]

Wow pacifist run possible in is6 as well?

[rough thorn]

i meant i borrowed ros so , i need sniper vouch for that to e2 her

[cursive verge]

Fake snipermed

[sly harness]

Yes very likely to appear in shop

[rough thorn]

[sly harness]

Just save coupons for a refresh

[rough thorn]

ig ill do that , aight thz guys

[sly harness]

Conserv 2 in-class vouchers for f2 Pathfinder

1. Sniper to for e2 Ros
2. Sniper or Medic get a second carry who will be instantly promoted while recruited

[rough thorn]

are there like a good 5* caster for is?

[sly harness]

Amiya

For IS6 specifically you can cope Nightmare for ed2 left

[rough thorn]

oh right forgot about her , also i could use her as a temp medic as well

[cursive verge]

Nightmare

[sly harness]

Santalla scales well too

[cursive verge]

Is santalla used in kjerag comps?

[rough thorn]

ok wait , if i use medic miya , but i recruit her with a caster vouch, does she still could proc ros talent?

[sly harness]

Don't think so (but going all in into Kjerag isn't really anyway)

[sly harness]

You can switch her class mid run

[rough thorn]

oh you could that?

[cursive verge]

As long as theres no ongoing skill specialistion for her you caj switch class

[cursive verge]

Exit rub->operator page->switch

Yes cant do it inside IS

[sly harness]

[earnest shuttle]

They should add that feature

[cursive verge]

I thibk someone brought it up in #1211614253354852362 few weeks ago

[sly harness]

If she is a temp or borrowed op you can't change her class too

[rough thorn]

aight gonna go for it fr now , wish me luck fellow divers

[slim helm]

im struggling to set up a +6 is6 end.2 run, what kind of ops should i be recruiting in the forethought of this, outside of raidian?

[earnest shuttle]

exu2, ascalon/pram2 for left side

[sly harness]

[rough thorn]

or just leak it

[sly harness]

Exu alter

[sly harness]

[main bison]

I thought you just leak for Ed2?

[earnest shuttle]

but it worked

[sly harness]

I don't like leaking left

It is boring

[slim helm]

s2? s3? does it matter?

[earnest shuttle]

s2

[sly harness]

S2