#is-station
clear isle
steel relic
I can’t believe offskill inactive talent Ashlock couldn’t get the kill
proven dagger
we love epochal gaps
ok wow em was harder than I thought
i fucked up the opening and a lot of shit leaked
proven dagger
i just watched gummy beat an artillery truck to death
steel relic
paper notch
do it a second time with all the hands 
arctic panther
I can’t believe offskill inactive talent Ashlock couldn’t get the kill
ashlock downscale 
remote badger
how many hands are there
8
plus some more book from certain hands
or 9? i dont remember much
proven dagger
i see i see
hmm
btw with lamp
how do yall consistiently get a shitton of relics without f6?
is it just robbing + bosky?
proven dagger
i see i see
remote badger
and skillfully manage what to get from lamp
proven dagger
wdym
proven dagger
oh yeah
paper notch
also like general things to do when running lamp like dont pick units you wont be using their hands dont pick up hands you dont need that can result in you getting shit books
not all relics are good relics
like that one fuckass one that eats your inspirers
remote badger
top gun gaming 
paper notch
eats rise and fall to give you +5 aspd or some shit
paper notch
top gun gaming <:DocSmile:1213036172524126240>
:handmixer:
proven dagger
yeah ive been managing my lamp picks then
i try not to mix hands
its been easy
most of the time the relic picks are obvious
proven dagger
top gun gaming <:DocSmile:1213036172524126240>
what does this squad do again
remote badger
proven dagger
playing IS5 with 5*s only has been easier than using 6*s for me
😭
i should attempt ed2
but i dont have s3m3
on amiyi
paper notch
playing IS5 with 5*s only has been easier than using 6\*s for me
it happens sometimes for me where is6 is easier welfare only than it is on my main cuz i troll a little too much with my decisions
inland elbow
Gee I wonder which welfare makes is6 easy
desert brook
never stop gambling
paper notch
Gee I wonder which welfare makes is6 easy
i genuinely do hope that mechanist is worse in his own IS
slate hull
yeah, there needs to be a middle ground, Raidian in is6 vs Raidian everywhere else is like that unlocking the boss as a playable character meme
desert brook
fuckkkkk i picked candle option and then lost the next gamble
i have 4 dollars now
huh
toll for roads cant bring you under 1 ingot
lmao
nvm wtf, it rolled twice and i was stuck on 1 ingot, and then i rolled it a third time and it made me 0 ingots
ough
vestal pumice
I'm at the foot for the first time. I have gavial in the back so she's a must?
desert brook
probably gonna want hoshi on s3 cuz youll want the burst damage
inland elbow
why was exu on s1 💀
desert brook
she was defaulted to s1 for some reason??????
and i didnt notice before i went in 💀
inland elbow
I'm at the foot for the first time. I have gavial in the back so she's a must?
looks fine, I'd probably put wis on s2 and hoshi on s3
vestal pumice
probably gonna want hoshi on s3 cuz youll want the burst damage
Ok. Will she die from getting hit by the foot or just deploy her once the foot lands
inland elbow
keep exu and radian on the field and use raidian summons to bait the foot
exu barrier to keep them both alive
desert brook
if the foot lands on her she'll always die
but she will survive the 3 stomps after the foot lands
vestal pumice
Wis s2 no m3
desert brook
if the foot lands on her she'll always die
youre gonna want bait for teh foot, probably a raidian summon
desert brook
& also look up the foot targeting rules real quick if you want, cuz it has very unique targeting
inland elbow
Wis s2 no m3
should probably fix that, but I'd still use s2
unless you have like 0 relics
vestal pumice
should probably fix that, but I'd still use s2
yea heard s2 is great in is5
desert brook
yea as long as you have good atk relics definitely go for s2
vestal pumice
well I did a lot of battles in the garden so I got buffs from it
desert brook
has much better scaling than s3
paper notch
i've been drafting wis in is6 just for the hitcount 😭
paper notch
what are the tongbaos looking like?
vestal pumice
inland elbow
in general ethan won't be able to solo hold left
so you want multiple hc solutions to helidrop and use
paper notch
low difficulty?
desert brook
surely 6 stacks of stir fry is enough atk for wis s2
paper notch
looks pretty good
desert brook
she just needs to be strong enough to kill the spear guys
vestal pumice
I have 20 hp
paper notch
you dont have to leak ofc
desert brook
20 hp is cutting it pretty close i wouldnt leak unless i had to
vestal pumice
low difficulty?
difficulty 5
desert brook
type of shit that gives me anxiety
vestal pumice
I only done one ending which is the normal one 
will the targeting work for the foot if two summons are next to each other?
vestal pumice
1 hp left due to the adds gg
brazen bane
what does this one do
+1 candle on pick up
woeful scaffold
Let's say there's 2 combat nodes, 1 of them has a plan and the other doesnt, but the combat node that doesnt have a plan leads to an emer combat node, would u still take the no plan combat for emer?
woeful scaffold
the scammer realy said bro
They're becoming intelligent 
desert brook
+1 candle on pick up
o
desert brook
Let's say there's 2 combat nodes, 1 of them has a plan and the other doesnt, but...
yeah
1 plan vs entire em
and em might have several plans
inland elbow
Let's say there's 2 combat nodes, 1 of them has a plan and the other doesnt, but...
Is this on f1?
woeful scaffold
Is this on f1?
Oui
inland elbow
You'd want to calculate the plan ev in general
But I'd pick the path with the guaranteed plan
The em will have a 50% chance of being a plan combat
inland elbow
Yeah path calcing gets complicated later on
F1 is the easiest and still hard to do sometimes
woeful scaffold
Ye like I have bad neighbor and hasty escape
Hast escape has 2 paths, 1 leads to unknown emer and the other is just another combat, while neighbor just leads to encounter
inland elbow
Can you post a picture
woeful scaffold
inland elbow
Oh interesting
Changes things
I think I calced a similar problem let me check my doc
woeful scaffold
Kinda scared that I'll whiff on the last node lol
desert brook
well hasty escape leads to 2 fights, so surely that increases the chances of a subsequent fight having a plan above 50%
inland elbow
Yeah similar question done here
Yours is different enough that it doesn't map 1-1 though
inland elbow
Kinda scared that I'll whiff on the last node lol
I mean if you whiff you just reset tbh
Anyways my gut instinct is to do hasty escape here
Suppose we go top, the next combat has a 1/4 chance of being plan giving us a plan ev of 1.25
desert brook
how is this value calculated lmao
inland elbow
Bottom path has two 50% chances of being a plan combat, one of which is an em which has an inherent value of 0.51 plans
It comes from a thought experiment to solve a decision in pathing
It's not a hard set value
Just the value I use when calcing ev
desert brook
if em is 0.5 plan then em + plan is 1.5 plan
since its 50/50 to have a plan or not then its average value is 1 plan
but em > combat
doesn't that make the em always better?
desert brook
cuz better loot
inland elbow
The 0.51 value isn't saying this is how many plans it gives, it's saying this is the inherent value of an em over a reg combat
Aka the better exp, inspirer pool and relic
desert brook
oh the 0.51 is calculated from the loot
inland elbow
I'm trying to remember the scenario where 0.51 came up rn
desert brook
then whats the plan value of a reg combat
inland elbow
Inherent value of a planless combat here is assumed to be 0
Oh now I remember the scenario where this mattered
desert brook
like if you get 0.51 plans worth of loot from an em AND the em has a plan then it would be 1.51 plans of loot?
inland elbow
Yes
inland elbow
Oh now I remember the scenario where this mattered
Suppose you did a no plan combat as the first node, then a em is revealed and the other path is encounter combat
But the em is planless
In this case I made the value judgment that going for the guaranteed em is better than going for the potential plan combat
But the plan combat would have 0.5 plan ev
So the em must be higher than that
Thus 0.51
desert brook
yeah, so you're "guaranteed" 0.51 plans and theres a 50% chance it gives you another plan, so the average value of the EM is 1.01 plans
the two paths are: 1 plan combat, 1 unknown combat; 1 no plan combat, 1 unknown em
ok, so the first path is guaranteed to be 1 plan value, and the second combat can have a plan but it's less than 50% because the guaranteed plan already took the map
the second path is average 1.01 plans because the first node is 0 and the em is average 1.01, but there's also a fallback combat node which has a higher than 50% chance to have a plan because the first combat already took a planless map
does is this how it works
inland elbow
Yes, but the second path would be more complicated to calc then just saying the reg combat is a fallback option
desert brook
yeah
inland elbow
You'd want to iterate through the scenarios (em has plan, reg combat has plan, em has no plan, reg combat has no plan)
desert brook
time to see what all the f1 maps are
inland elbow
And then average the ev from that
There are 5 maps, 2 have plans
Top path is 1.25
desert brook
oh wait, the em can't be the same map as the reg combat?
inland elbow
I'm not sure, but I've never seen it happen
But like from what I know of spawning logic, it should be possible for both to be the same
Afaik the only rule for combat spawning is that newly revealed combats cannot be the same as the one you previously did
inland elbow
Afaik the only rule for combat spawning is that newly revealed combats cannot be...
And that refreshing wipes the memory of last done combat
desert brook
top path is 1 (guaranteed) + 1 * (1/4) (plan map chance) = 1.25 plan value
bottom path is
assuming em can be same map: 0 (guaranteed) + 1 * (2/5) (em plan map chance) + 0.51 (em guaranteed) + 1 * (2/4) (fallback plan map chance) = 1.41
assuming em can't be the same map: 1 * (2/4) (em plan map chance) + 1.01 (the rest) = 1.51
so here the bottom path is always better on average
without the fallback combat the top path would be better because its 0.91 or 1.01 vs 1.25
inland elbow
Em is 2/4
inland elbow
The fallback map can't be directly added because you can't capitalize on both at the same time
Better way to do it is to calc ev of each scenario
inland elbow
Scenario 1: em plan, reg combat plan
Scenario 2: em plan, reg none
Scenario 3: em no plan, reg plan
Scenario 4: no plan for both
Then you do a weighted average to get the ev
In this case all scenarios are equally likely so it's just summing and dividing by 4
desert brook
assuming em can't be the same map,
em plan reg plan 1.51
em plan reg none 1.01
em no plan reg plan 1.0
none 0.51
so the bottom path is always worse? lol
inland elbow
Em plan is 1.51 for both scenarios
inland elbow
So 1.13 plan ev
So top is on average better
Though bottom still has an argument because while the average is worse, there is a decent chance of coming out ahead
desert brook
Em plan is 1.51 for both scenarios
oh yeah, because yuo will take the em over teh reg
wow i have like double digit iq
inland elbow
Nah first time I worked through this stuff it took me way longer
desert brook
see but you know when the numbers are wrong, i just put numbers together and called it a day
and will probably never realize theyre wrong
inland elbow
Now imagine doing this calc on f3 and f4
When boskies are thrown in
And you have way more pathing agency
desert brook
better to make a script to calculate it i think, but verticals are also random so if you take those into account then it might be too hard
why tf is testee a low tier coin
no way this is on the same level as On toss, Operators deployed on rightmost Vagary Tiles +100% DEF
inland elbow
I did think about writing a program to do monte carlo sims
But like bro
Truly the nichest of niche
desert brook
me when i use a bot to calculate the optimal is5 path (im ultrasweating)
woeful scaffold
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RPUmtlPq-5eAL3-fDIaI0prP5-7Z2YiF0PundeUmMY0/...
So F1 can have like 4 different combat nodes afaik, ice age, hasty, neighbor and inspection, if I did haste first it'll make the chances of other combats yielding plans higher due to how combat nodes spawns and statistics?
inland elbow
So F1 can have like 4 different combat nodes afaik, ice age, hasty, neighbor and...
You forgot vermin
5 total
A newly revealed combat cannot be the same as the one you last did
So if you did hasty, the revealed combats cannot be hasty
desert brook
nuclear bomb
lost flicker
fuck
ionic kestrel
...
lost flicker
oh my goodness it blew me up
sick mason
No
ionic kestrel
just kill
sick mason
And this thing is attacking based on hitcount btw
sick mason
The more u hit it = more arts fart
lost flicker
my favorite
desert brook
something malicious is brewing
remote badger
see the tunnels
lost flicker
mhm
remote badger
theres a statuegeist
remote badger
yeh
proven dagger
liars
remote badger
🫃
proven dagger
lamp is a lie
arctic panther
liars
we #is-station residents would never lie 😇
desert brook
Do enemies go down this route at all?
pretty sure the jetpackers go there
proven dagger
fat
split void
Will this appear again if I don't buy it ?
proven dagger
YOU CANT CONVERT CLASSES IF YOURE DOING MASTERIES
split void
YOU CANT CONVERT CLASSES IF YOURE DOING MASTERIES
Let me translate : " the game want you to rest"
tidal raptor
Ima be honest
inland elbow
lmao pce bozo
tidal raptor
How in all that is good and holy am I supposed to beat sands of time
inland elbow
read the guide
tidal raptor
Furthermore how am I supposed to be beat it on d10
inland elbow
the squad size one is easy to get by just getting the ed2 item
health and attack is easy since you can buy index first page and rob second page
inland elbow
try reading the guide, it should answer most questions
tidal raptor
health and attack is easy since you can buy index first page and rob second page
It’s that at the very end i get the debuff relics from the prophecy
tidal raptor
health and attack is easy since you can buy index first page and rob second page
Pages meaning?
inland elbow
I'm telling you how to avoid them bruh
from the shop
first page of shop, buy the index
refresh
rob
that's 2 index
and you need 3 to not get the cursed item
inland elbow
the squad size one can be avoided by getting the ed2 item
you don't need to do ed2
you just enter a lost and found and pick the option that gives you 4 collapse
and then combine the foldortals to get the item
real mason
are there any decent 4 star guard voucher drafts for IS6 or is it not really worth thinking about?
keep getting them as drops from command level up
sick mason
Windscoot and Luo Xiaohei
Start with either of them would be good in fact (guard supporter medic start)
real mason
got it, I usually start Vanguard Supporter Specialist but I'll try Guard Supporter Medic on next run
proven dagger
FAT
desert brook
is that why you drafted her lmao
inland elbow
even if you don't block them
desert brook
they do? i usually see them barely make it over
tropic adder
winning IS5 with low lv squad + 3 support unit 
proven dagger
fun fact, the jetpack guys will now fall into the hole natrually
wait why
i noticed it earlier
but I thought I just got lucky
inland elbow
they changed the game engine code when preloading nasti update
proven dagger
LOL
desert brook
???? LMAO
proven dagger
i noticed they like
barely catch the edge of the hole
and die
in my earlier run
severe oasis
just use ange
odd rose
just use ange
?
severe oasis
she kill the boss :D
odd rose
how does that help make the ending exist
odd rose
she kill the boss :D
can't kill a boss that doesn't exist
severe oasis
you're so right im sorry im such a fucking loser piece of shit
slim hull
How does rhoder gate work in is5
Like the operator gets sent to scout node and comes back next node?
severe oasis
when stage ends, the last operator you deployed gets sent to a scout node
slim hull
Or next floorv
severe oasis
they come bcak next floor
slim hull
Oh
severe oasis
its just like a normal scout node
slim hull
Is that not like bad
severe oasis
no its great, they get promoted and you get a plan
odd rose
no like seriusly
severe oasis
you also get a bunch of fodder reserve ops to sacrifice for it if you have nobody to promote
slim hull
But youll be lacking in stage clearing if you are limited
severe oasis
you also get a bunch of fodder reserve ops to sacrifice for it if you have nobod...
which still gives you a plan when they come back
odd rose
this shit isn't real
severe oasis
this shit isn't real
what diff r u on
sly harness
But youll be lacking in stage clearing if you are limited
Early in the run you need like 1 6* to clear stages and you take like 2 combats f1, and 2+ in f2
After that you will have like 5 e2 ops
slim hull
Also does it get sent if already e2
sly harness
With some random 4* in it but this will be enough for f3
severe oasis
Also does it get sent if already e2
yeah if they were last deployed
sly harness
Also does it get sent if already e2
Yes so you need to be careful
odd rose
what diff r u on
7
severe oasis
its objectively a good thing but you can easily forget about it and just lose your main dps
sly harness
Also it is always the last deployed doesn't matter whether the unit stays on the field or not
nocturne cape
What happens on D10?
severe oasis
d10 effect is that it increases the chance of alternate ending events
sly harness
But you can easily draft stuff like this if you get it early in the run
nocturne cape
Thats a thing?
severe oasis
yup
nocturne cape
Crazy
odd rose
oh yeah ending rng so dogshit until d10
what does d10 does?
slim hull
I c i shall try it
severe oasis
odd rose
the higher the dif the more dogshit is2 feels
odd rose
WHY D10
nocturne cape
Thats crazy
severe oasis
because they HATE YOU
nocturne cape
I actually didnt know this
severe oasis
who even plays is2 🙄
sly harness
Although you can relatively often get ed2 and ed3
severe oasis
i get ed2 basically every run even below d10
odd rose
I'm a fairly new player
arctic panther
who even plays is2 🙄
new players
gaunt bay
because they HATE YOU
Meow
sly harness
only ed4 remaining
Encounter max on f2 and f3 if you don't get it restart
sly harness
Relicless boss solutions
nocturne cape
And sakiko
gaunt bay
Whats the meta strat for IS2
The red button in the top left corner
severe oasis
literally everything works its is2
nocturne cape
Ok but surely we’re assuming D15 so
severe oasis
thats not real
sly harness
Not on d15 in boss stages
severe oasis
nobody plays that
inland elbow
host a tournament and I'll grind it out maybe
sly harness
severe oasis
you will be the ONLY person who joins
inland elbow
monthly headhunting pack or I'm not getting out of bed I'm ngl
severe oasis
ill join if the 4-10th place prizes is a monthly card
sly harness
nocturne cape
Erm
severe oasis
i havent even unlocked is2 d15 yet
sly harness
Maybe try winning 
severe oasis
nope
proven dagger
feeling f5 rob
odd rose
AT LEAST PHANTOM IS EASY ENOUGH
nocturne cape
So that brings us to about 6,70 bucks
arctic panther
So that brings us to about 6,70 bucks
severe oasis
AT LEAST PHANTOM IS EASY ENOUGH
you used himself against him
desert brook
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1481244110663847987/VI...
i need to try this
odd rose
whyyyy
sly harness
Hallucinations are not bad
desert brook
isnt there a hallucination where you lose quadruple hp or is it only gain
9 isnt that bad, you get a decent roster before f4
severe oasis
is2 d15 was such a stupid update
odd rose
every single difficulty is stupid
severe oasis
cant believe thats what they worked on instead of is4 d18
odd rose
what is is4 d18?
severe oasis
is4 only has up to d15 unlike 3, 5 and 6
which all have up to 18
well 6 is 15 rn but in dlc2 its 18
odd rose
this suffering is for her she's worth it she's worth it she's worth it
inland elbow
least biased mf
severe oasis
nope quilon is cinema fight
odd rose
sly harness
this suffering is for her she's worth it she's worth it she's worth it
Surely it will be your only cope for IS6 ed5 damage reflect gimmick
odd rose
Surely it will be your only cope for IS6 ed5 damage reflect gimmick
wait really?
i didn't know what i just think she cute
proven dagger
f5 rob
severe oasis
shes cute and like super broken like very broken im telling the truth
sly harness
odd rose
my only answer for is6 ed5 is hoshi alter
sly harness
In the times of IS4 release she was good
odd rose
and maybe mon3tr cope self heals
severe oasis
i too am yatoless
nocturne cape
yes
odd rose
i could also cope mumu clones dps
nocturne cape
very
odd rose
gaunt bay
naruhodo
severe oasis
i feel like its cope theres no way she genuinely does enough dmg to kill them
odd rose
i feel like its cope theres no way she genuinely does enough dmg to kill them
mumu? yeah no way
reed idk
severe oasis
no not mumu 😭
gaunt bay
grok is this true
odd rose
ok but mumu cute
i sparked her already so yeah
proven dagger
praying for chalice
severe oasis
yep
sly harness
Surely mumu bind will be relevant some day again
nocturne cape
im building pepe and passenger on CN
severe oasis
5star IS mods would lowkey go hard
nocturne cape
surely we're not doomed
nocturne cape
give highmore an IS mod that makes her better than tragodia
nah
i feel like they've been limiting the power level of IS mods
most of the recent ones were sleeper
crystal niche
give highmore an IS mod that makes her better than tragodia
every time her skill activates she binds all enemys on the map and moves towards her
nocturne cape
plus 5* dont get IS module
crystal niche
severe oasis
ok but they should
odd rose
i feel like they've been limiting the power level of IS mods
sounds lame
severe oasis
shalem IS mod
odd rose
"what if they are too broken" - company that released wang in normal gameplay
sly harness
every time her skill activates she binds all enemys on the map and moves towards...
Looks like a 5* kit, a contradictory effect
proven dagger
holy fuck
odd rose
Yes yes and increase average collectibles count to 300
so just is5
sly harness
We should go back to 1 Hope 3* though
crystal niche
Yes yes and increase average collectibles count to 300
hey if there's 1000 relics sure
gaunt bay
what does texas even do
you can say the same about mumu 💀
gaunt bay
ok but texas cute too
odd rose
We should go back to 1 Hope 3* though
gaunt bay
yup
gaunt bay
so is texas
crystal niche
odd rose
so is texas
no
severe oasis
so like when is reed getting burn delta
odd rose
i do not find cardboard cute
remote badger
the struggle in limbussy is real
odd rose
so like when is reed getting burn delta
also makes her do 110% dmg to enemies with cinder
sly harness
Is her S2 DPS like very high already
severe oasis
its like 6k or smth
odd rose
Is her S2 DPS like very high already <:RosThink:826566635313299466>
yeah but it's meele
severe oasis
oookay man
remote badger
i still wonder how tfw do ppls even be able to stack foresight to 3 digits
proven dagger
what's foresight?
severe oasis
i won't have any new meta IS units till i spark exu2 on kalter banner
spark rosmo instead
odd rose
spark rosmo instead
next year
proven dagger
so shes better
have you ever had a cat
severe oasis
no :(
severe oasis
my parents wouldnt let me get one as a kid
odd rose
ikr, that's why they're peak
sly harness
i won't have any new meta IS units till i spark exu2 on kalter banner
Wang?
proven dagger
same tho
proven dagger
ok imma go violate fremont
odd rose
still the good cats > the ak dogs
proven dagger
imma record it
odd rose
rosmo, GG, morpheous
odd rose
look at rockrock
zzzz
severe oasis
shes so pretty
severe oasis
and shes a cat
severe oasis
you're right shes the #1 cat
odd rose
this is the queen of the kitten
severe oasis
but rockrock is awesome too
tropic adder
I can't see the cat it's loading for me 🥺
crystal niche
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1451746846006444095/1473149635928260719/t...
eat cat
severe oasis
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1451746846006444095/1473149635928260719/t...
on her way to fail to ragebait sakiko
odd rose
eat cat
you can't eat morpheous
she will keep walking on your stomache and make it hurt
crystal niche
odd rose
man i can't weait for is6 to end
severe oasis
can is7 release in en tomorow
odd rose
is6 is kinda boring visually and lore wise
crystal niche
it's the worst visually for me
severe oasis
music kinda mid aside from ed4 phase 2
odd rose
3> 5 > 4> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>6
odd rose
is5 is the best music wise
the amiya boss fight solos
severe oasis
actually its close tbh
severe oasis
is3 is like
tropic adder
Do diff1 trait applies to later diff if I play higher diff? 
gaunt bay
bro drank the bait propaganda
gaunt bay
unfortunate
odd rose
All IS too?
yes
severe oasis
is4 would be the best gameplay wise if every unit released after september 2025 didnt make it piss easy
if you just ban them all its the best!
low vortex
is7 will be is4 but peaker trust
severe oasis
maybe
gaunt bay
can we just have is4 d18
odd rose
is6 is like, kinda eh (got better with expansion) but i do like a lot of the gimmicks
odd rose
like the voucher system is the best
proven dagger
IS6 is cool
low vortex
crystal niche
is7 will be is4 but peaker trust
proven dagger
i like IS6 music a lot actually
odd rose
meh
low vortex
unfortunately i think relic slop has the highest retention on lower end players
frail cloud
Lets just call mechanist’s IS when it releases IS6 part 2
odd rose
is6 music is there ig
severe oasis
unfortunately i think relic slop has the highest retention on lower end players
i do not GIVE A FUCK!! it needs to END
crystal niche
is4 ed5 when
proven dagger
but it's on a nothingburger boss
crystal niche
low vortex
relic slop is also more inline with traditional rouge like games afaik
odd rose
unfortunately i think relic slop has the highest retention on lower end players
yes, love is5
severe oasis
go back to is4 balancing
low vortex
is it because its the easiest
odd rose
5> 6>3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
low vortex
severe oasis
you can tell a lot about someone if their fav IS is is5
odd rose
is it because its the easiest
nah, because i have fun
brazen bane
Valid reason
proven dagger
it itches my tickle
low vortex
i like IS5 for the squad diversity and that you can play without lamp
odd rose
talons is fun too
low vortex
IS6 voucher diversity is scuffed from what ive heard
severe oasis
is5 is like, ONLY fun without lamp
low vortex
also sescort my beloved
odd rose
IS6 voucher diversity is scuffed from what ive heard
so me getting 20 specialist vouchers was actually an scam?
low vortex
how to get more game out of more game
odd rose
severe oasis
ive never played it bc i have no yato
low vortex
thats not what i meant
low vortex
ive never played it bc i have no yato
you borrow a p6 yato bro
you can't use any yato
severe oasis
e1 start works?
odd rose
my issue with is6 is that i find it extremely exhausting
low vortex
e1 start works?
you kind of need to memorize f1 map clears
odd rose
and i can't explain why
low vortex
its pretty schizo but its beautiful
severe oasis
actually wtf am i even saying ofc its e1 start its soul escort
low vortex
sescort is hope bottle neck
proven dagger
what if we escorted our souls together on the same boat
low vortex
but its fine yato sweeps
proven dagger
😳
cursive verge
Doesnt it need p6 kafka too
crystal niche
Doesnt it need p6 kafka too
severe oasis
i would need to watch soul escort gameplay to learn how to do it prob
low vortex
you can even play without hoederer
cursive verge
low vortex
wanna watch me fail after not playing it for months?
severe oasis
im going to sleep
severe oasis
bye loser!!!
odd rose
i'm really reliant on getting my strong units to clear
severe oasis
the boss is the least of your concerns really
sly harness
IS6 ed4 is really simple
gaunt bay
relic slop is also more inline with traditional rouge like games afaik
i mean generally they dont have nearly the degree of buffs that is5/exp1+ is6 have no?
odd rose
IS6 ed4 is really simple
maybe i should try it but i'd actuall struggly on yi LOL
sly harness
Raidian + some other 6* carry + any random bodies are enough for the entire run even on d15
severe oasis
maybe i should try it but i'd actuall struggly on yi LOL
ill handhold trust
remote badger
kiwi do u have a angle grinder
gaunt bay
idt relic amount in is4 was too low either
low vortex
i think they try to solve the issue of not enough interesting relics by adding buff slop
gaunt bay
its jsut avg relic quality is shit
low vortex
a lot of rogue like game collectibles can get really wacky
odd rose
make relics funny
low vortex
but its kind of hard to do that with the number of operators we have
odd rose
not just more stats
gaunt bay
a lot of rogue like game collectibles can get really wacky
dunno tongbaos are pretty silly
severe oasis
ok i like tongbaos tho i just dont like the 100+ relics guaranteed
low vortex
tong baos are neat
gaunt bay
is6 dlc0 probably has the ideal for relic/power balancing
low vortex
think all of is6 is mid i don't want to play it
remote badger
relicless is7 coping
odd rose
"x stat up on 1 tile" = empty bao
remote badger
hopefully we can
heavy pumice
when IS7?
odd rose
is6 dlc0 probably has the ideal for relic/power balancing
ngl i didn't like is6 before the expansion
severe oasis
i like the qol dlcs added but the balancing def isnt it
gaunt bay
ngl i didn't like is6 before the expansion
i think is6 stage design overall is piss
severe oasis
that too
severe oasis
is it a hot take that i actually like raidian tho
gaunt bay
the reason is4 stands out to me is cuz the stages to start off with were very interesting
gaunt bay
is it a hot take that i actually like raidian tho
🥀
low vortex
i like is5 because of pulling out hair trying to decide pathing and toil management with sescort shenanigans
remote badger
legitimately ed2 no alt is piss
odd rose
is it a hot take that i actually like raidian tho
i love raidian, i just hate the raidian slop map design
heavy pumice
IS6 bosses have alt version?
gaunt bay
maybe id be fine with radian if she didnt have unique encounter interactions or overall run buffs just for drafting her
i think shes fine power wise if she costed a reasonable amount of hope too
severe oasis
thats fair
remote badger
lazily ref it
severe oasis
tbh
proven dagger
IS6 bosses have alt version?
they have alt stages AND alt versions
odd rose
they have alt stages AND alt versions
never seen those
remote badger
f3 have alt bosses
gaunt bay
like atleast shes nowhere near required
well noone is required in any IS
but i think radian makes the biggest difference of any operator in any IS
odd rose
i'd only done 3 bosses on f3 out of the like 6 there are lol
remote badger
fishermen is so piss
gaunt bay
aside from maybe wis in is5
but weve established that fligner comp wis in is5 is shit gameplay
so if were stooping to her level
odd rose
i made myself not be able to get a wis on is5
gaunt bay
then its bad by default!
odd rose
to make it more funny
proven dagger
man I should've gone for ed2
remote badger
i decided to stop using wis all the time
heavy pumice
i see
good thing i despise raidian (all suporter summoner in general) :ya:
remote badger
shrimply shes just making me braindead
gaunt bay
one of my personal bgigest issues with is6 is how important f2 bosky is and how shit trying to beat bosky stages is on f2
heavy pumice
i will wait dlc2 IS6 and see how this is all about
odd rose
bosky?
proven dagger
i see
good thing i despise raidian (all suporter summoner in general) :ya:
i like Mayer in is6
remote badger
rolling into gatekeeped map
crystal niche
one of my personal bgigest issues with is6 is how important f2 bosky is and how ...
I completely agree
remote badger
definitely one of the best shit i ever met
gaunt bay
theres also a ton of completely arbitrary restrictions and shit
arctic panther
sui's remnant conciousness
wander into wonderland
gaunt bay
like fym ur face off is bricked by ranged/melee
remote badger
billions doubts gating billions of nodes behind
proven dagger
new faceoff sucks yeah
gaunt bay
holy fuck theres just so many ways the game fucks you over in ways that are like
whats the point
wheres the skill expression
????
proven dagger
do u guys actually draft yan
gaunt bay
yes
split void
Quick question this toll is useless in Ed4 F6 right ?
proven dagger
wheres the skill expression
well the yan skill expression is your annihilation time commitment 👴
odd rose
sui's remnant conciousness
oh
gaunt bay
i mean a significant portion of the meta is yan anyways
exu2 hoshi2
kinda broken
halfway there already
theres leizi too but she falls off dlc2
proven dagger
i don't draft yan at all
gaunt bay
slap a purestream on ig
remote badger
Quick question this toll is useless in Ed4 F6 right ?
essentially toil for road is useless
proven dagger
i ban exu and hoshi anyway
split void
essentially toil for road is useless
proven dagger
i don't have them
proven dagger
🤫
remote badger
i have no yato2
proven dagger
exu is a yan larper let's be real
gaunt bay
chinese work visa
proven dagger
jieyun supremacy
remote badger
Damn my clear on bad neighbors was off by 5 seconds
wuh
heavy pumice
ohh its all about yan that covering half of the need to beat is6
proven dagger
😴
heavy pumice
think ignore IS6 is the true angle :ya:
low vortex
wuh
if you do it perfectly you can even have yato kill a chest on badneighbors
with like a few frames to spare
😇
remote badger
low vortex
holy shit portal barely does not one shot Yato on f1 emergency
F1 witchcraft flute into catastrophes
IS5 loves me
no this is high roll slop
remote badger
low vortex
game loved me too much and might have killed me with a eureka
woeful scaffold
What are the chances of whiffing fated encounter 5 times in a row...
sly harness
Like 4%
split void
I want to find Dream cursio Stove and Law ritual but seem impossible
So gotta settle with 2 of them
ashen sundial
ulpianus is replaceable with sakiko in suh2a right?
also does e1 level 40 puzzle work as a copium second agent for suh2a
inland elbow
sakiko is a worse starter than sa but can sub for him
she does not replace ulp in the least
ulps whole thing is that he carries en route
sakiko's en route is balls
earnest shuttle
is law and ritual viable in ed5 is6 if not include many deployment limit relics ?
ashen sundial
sakiko's en route is balls
split void
ashen sundial
is suh2a without ulpianus doable or no
ashen sundial
split void
I want to find Dream cursio Stove and Law ritual but seem impossible
Idk ed5 but 0 sec redeploy spec is crazy
split void
is law and ritual viable in ed5 is6 if not include many deployment limit relics ...
Just don't think ed5 could be too hard for team like this
sly harness
is law and ritual viable in ed5 is6 if not include many deployment limit relics ...
It is very important and some of the strats just won't work without it
It makes a lot of sense when the meta revolves around Yato alter and Hoshi who just die after the skill
earnest shuttle
huh, ive been sleeping on law and ritual bc of the less deployment limit
sly harness
Also if you are averaging 100+ collectibles getting deployment slots is easier
It can be a big pain en route, especially in Pathfinder combats
But the effect is great in Bosky and in boss fights (mainly ed2 and ed5)
tropic adder
For IS5, is it intentional that my operator only loses HP once after deployment during "suffering" epoch? Or am I missing something?
inland elbow
wdym
low vortex
yes its one time instance of damage on deploy
tropic adder
yes its one time instance of damage on deploy
What does it mean by trigger once before unit leave (too lazy to crop 😭)
low vortex
^ basically
theres some very specific things in this game that interact with operators that self redeploy
one to remember for IS5 is Rhoder's Gate
tropic adder
I thought it supposed to make my operator loses HP by 25% constantly
tropic adder
how about higher diff?
low vortex
it goes up to -70% HP on high diff
tropic adder
it goes up to -70% HP on high diff
But it only reduces once right?
low vortex
yes
it seems like a non issue on lower difficulties
at higher end it can make starting some stages awful
especially if you have to kill the ED5 objective
gaunt bay
Guldul Silence Freeze Bosky Sufferings Ghost Fractured Pledge of Babel
😇
oops unopenable stages
late island
just draft SA
Sa the goat
Why ever draft mlynar/leizi when you can have sa
rustic spade
there is only one SA and its not a guard
valid zenith
does temp special squad raidian get all the tree bonuses from raising your own raidian?
solar tree
how are you supposed to do turmoils with most good 6*s banned?
do you just like not or
brazen bane
Who got banned?
ripe summit
Guys. Does different endings in IS have different EXP multiplier?
sly harness
how are you supposed to do turmoils with most good 6*s banned?
Probably delay to f3, get more then 2 6* maybe even shop rob f3 before entering
sly harness
Guys its red coin its worth it to get in a new IS?
Most of the Risk coins are great and downsides are negligible
There are only few that are just not worth picking in most cases
split void
how are you supposed to do turmoils with most good 6*s banned?
They know the stage. So they do it when they feel like they can
sly harness
Guys. Does different endings in IS have different EXP multiplier?
Like for the battle pass? No. Although some endings add extra floors and it gives more points
fast wasp
is this a prerequisite item for an ending?
sly harness
is this a prerequisite item for an ending?
Yes, for ending 4
fast wasp
aight
zinc compass
Would you guys say all IS are enjoyable?
ashen sundial
oh yeah what skills to m3 for ulpianus, SA and hoederer if im doing suh2a for is5
ashen sundial
Would you guys say all IS are enjoyable?
is2 boring as shit the others are fun
rich thorn
is3 : just exists
sly harness
ripe summit
Would you guys say all IS are enjoyable?
IS3 is not in chat
faint rampart
so many haters😴
sly harness
IS3 is a great low collectibles environment where draft and skill matters a lot
(without key operators it may be suck)
ripe summit
IS3 is a great low collectibles environment where draft and skill matters a lot ...
IS3 is gambling 1/6 you are scammed
sly harness
IS3 is gambling 1/6 you are scammed
faint rampart
fuckass highrollers when they cant just bruteforce with high relics
sly harness
I think you mean IS4 and alter endings rng
I love playing 1.5 hours for nothing because I don't get an alter at the end of the run
ripe summit
fuckass highrollers when they cant just bruteforce with high relics<:RosThink:82...
Not entirely true. But can't obtain a 6* unit until floor 2 is way too far
faint rampart
wha
inland elbow
Huh
rustic spade
I love playing 1.5 hours for nothing because I don't get an alter at the end of ...
Proceeds to spend 10h resetting for an e2 to miss ed4 and get knight killed by gopnik
inland elbow
Skill issue
remote badger
ew
faint rampart
~~Or mom~~
🧎♂️
faint rampart
:dalao:
rustic spade
Skill issue
Skill issue is to not get f1 witchcraft and CE
sly harness
oh yeah what skills to m3 for ulpianus, SA and hoederer if im doing suh2a for is...
Ulpianus: S2 and S3, mod3
SA: M9 mod3
Hoe: S1 and S2, mod3
remote badger
reset run
ashen sundial
Ulpianus: S2 and S3, mod3
SA: M9 mod3
Hoe: S1 and S2, mod3
I see
ashen sundial
What situations are their skills used in again
sly harness
zinc compass
When's the best time to start doing runs on IS, when I have a more extensive roster? My account is like 25 days old rn
remote badger
hoe s1 whenever u have massive aspd
rustic spade
Ur account is probably fine for low dif
rich thorn
hoe s1 whenever u have massive aspd
remote badger
pretty fine for is5 d18 wis core gaming
ashen sundial
I see
rustic spade
You can borrow all the starting ops
And then dont have to rely too much on low rarity cause you get tons of hope
sly harness
What situations are their skills used in again
Ulpianus: mainly S3 I think the poison haze stage uses S2
Hoe: S1 - tanks bosses, S2 - perma stun the lane
SA: S3 - main skill, takes spines ect, S1 - shop rob top, S3 some of the f3 stages
ashen sundial
Ulpianus: mainly S3 I think the poison haze stage uses S2
Hoe: S1 - tanks bosses...
I see, what abt hoe and sa s2?
ashen sundial
alr
sly harness
You need masteries to drop him in necrosis and get the skill up (e.g. Regular Army)
ashen sundial
and sa s2?
earnest shuttle
u dont use that much
ashen sundial
should I still m3 it in that case or nah
earnest shuttle
nah