is-station

[desert brook]

probably most important thing is to not deploy everyone before you can block the boss tho cuz of the poison mist

[frail hearth]

how to do ed 3 on is 3

[inland elbow]

Low difficulty (d15 and under) or high?

At low difficulty place down exu alt, place down warf

Kill

She will spawn golden tiles periodically, deploy an op on them to stop her from gaining sp

At high difficulty, permanently stall her on the right side with tragodia ela

[proven dagger]

degen is here

[proven dagger]

what does ela do for that strat?

[remote badger]

whre skin

[proven dagger]

i dont like her skin

[inland elbow]

Ela mine

[proven dagger]

slow?

[woeful knot]

trag isnt a perma stall

ela helps with cat downtime

also ela good for rest of the map

[desert brook]

bruh

[proven dagger]

how much hp does sui foot have on d15, not the boss, the stage jumpscare one

[proven dagger]

i see i see, makes sense

[cursive verge]

Tomimi.dev should have the info

[proven dagger]

i dont see the foot in there

yeah its not in any of the stages

[remote badger]

wuh

just enable it

[proven dagger]

oh

didn't know i could do that

ty

[sly harness]

Even without clicking this it always is there

You just need to score down because like special animals it isn't listed on top of the side

[proven dagger]

oh i see

ty

[errant siren]

Kill him ASAP.

That's all.

Block him to stop his fart upon whole map thing.

But notice that he will beat the blocker very hard and fast.

So you buy like 3 seconds.

[frail hearth]

what happen if i pick middle one

[steel relic]

[proven dagger]

prammie and cliff gotten

[remote badger]

[proven dagger]

funny stage

@open finch first time doing this on d15

im gonna shred it

its going pretty well!

[open finch]

i havent played above d3

cant really comment

[inland elbow]

Combat

[proven dagger]

2.36m hp mf

fuck

[remote badger]

isn't it- wtf

[crystal niche]

Why is the smoke blue

[proven dagger]

so close

[proven dagger]

huh

[rich thorn]

Did you won?

[remote badger]

why theres 2 sui mark

[rich thorn]

[proven dagger]

i retreated crownslayer as soon as the bar turned red, he switched targets

[remote badger]

[rich thorn]

Ye, you need to retreat when ! Mark turns form yellow to red

Not the bar

[proven dagger]

oh

[rich thorn]

⚠️

[rich thorn]

Into

[crystal niche]

Oh wow

Is that the timing for retreat?

[rich thorn]

Yeah, visual indicator

[earnest shuttle]

:ggnod:

[rich thorn]

Its same as londinium cannon

[earnest shuttle]

actually the cannon struck way faster

[proven dagger]

yeah its been a while since ive played with bar mechanics so i geniunely forgot i was supposed to watch the warning icon not the bar

cannon is faster yeah

its almost instant 💀

[rich thorn]

We can only just wait next qol

[earnest shuttle]

That one stage with civillian and londinium cannon in IS5

[rich thorn]

With PC client

[rich thorn]

And one with teresis standing and watching

EM ver

[remote badger]

but when yostar will release it

[rich thorn]

surely at least with wang

[proven dagger]

@halcyon flame @cold fjord @open finch my first d15 ed2 🧑‍💻 . I got VG skill spam relics for SA lmao

[rich thorn]

With steam link

[proven dagger]

phantom solo start as always

[rich thorn]

And I stop top up with fucking google play

[earnest shuttle]

I heard some ppl just go back to emulator cus the official ones have bigger cursor and no fast action button ? (not sure about the 2nd one)

[rich thorn]

Maybe cursor lol

[crystal niche]

Which emulator

[rich thorn]

But there are hotkeys

They are just fixed

[earnest shuttle]

mumu, LD, googleplay,..

[rich thorn]

People just want to lag at spearheads

[crystal niche]

Google play counts as an emulator?

[rich thorn]

Yes

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

[remote badger]

[crystal niche]

[proven dagger]

we're rich

[remote badger]

ya

[rich thorn]

Not too long

[proven dagger]

🤫

[crystal niche]

Let them have this

Don't ruin it

[proven dagger]

im sooo broke on mats

i need to make t4 devices for rose salt

i got a m3 ticket for her

[earnest shuttle]

im outta catalyst chip and IS bp is almost over

[slate hull]

I accidentally hit max when buying them and 8k red certs went bye bye

so I still have a massive pile of them

[sly harness]

I use the SP bar as an indicator, once it becomes empty you have like a frame or two to retreat your operators

It works fine even on mobile

You can also deploy operators under Sui without them being retreated in this time widow

Although for that you would need pause deploying so doing it on mobile is significantly more problematic

[odd rose]

is it worth to rob shop?

[tired wyvern]

I mean, ur on the last floor anyways, nothing stopping u unless ur not confident about winning the stage

[real pendant]

[real pendant]

go

[solar falcon]

does this last indefinitely?

[real pendant]

is there any list about operators getting module upgrades for IS

[rich thorn]

yes, hp recovery is not limited

[odd rose]

never done it

[rich thorn]

but atk is one time thing (1 atk per 1 summon eated)

[solar falcon]

seems kind of...not great then?

[rich thorn]

yes, mod b is ass

summons mod a alot better

just dont forget, if you already have mod a while mod b unlocked, it makes mod b as default

💀

3 people here was already screwed by that

[solar falcon]

[sly harness]

More like 10

[rich thorn]

Maybe, but I know 3 including myself

[solar tree]

assuming the extra hope cost isn't a problem would manticore be a better draft than ethan?

or is ethan still better?

[slate hull]

what does manticore do that ethan can't

[solar tree]

woman

:ya:

also more stats

cuz 5*

[slate hull]

it depends on the situation, in is6 when you get ethan you get him because it is a free solution for hitcount stages + the bind is nice to have sometimes

you don't really get him because you expect him to kill stuff

ethan is free and does some things well, mizuki is expensive and does a lot of things well, but the middle ground here is kind of in an awkward place

[cursive verge]

Ethan is used for thjngs where stats dont matter as well so manticore isnt replacing eyhan by that stat logic

[sly harness]

You take Ethan for perma bind on skill/with aspd

[waxen flower]

Hi guys where am I 😭??

[cursive verge]

[sly harness]

"if you roll every bind and dodge rng Ethan will be able to solo every stage in the game (as long as enemies are not bind immune)" ~ a very stupid quote

[cursive verge]

Its okay

[solar tree]

hi I randomly got the collectible for this floor am I about to get my ass beat or no?

[sly harness]

Not with a squad like this

[cursive verge]

Its d0 surely they will manage

[cursive verge]

Ulpi on s2 ykw leave it, you prefer hoshi2 s2 lver s3 as well

[solar tree]

I mean I use s3 too

[prime depot]

What does this mean by "promoted via combat"?

[solar tree]

but like s2 is just better for blind stages so 🤷

[sly harness]

Turn an operator into Candguestes via combat

• pathfinder fights
• second option in face-offs
• Lei Fa risk coin

[solar tree]

[solar tree]

is mizuki actually used in IS btw

[cursive verge]

Very

Specialist is the most competitive for a reason

[solar falcon]

can you get progress towards raidian's unlocks with a temp recruit or support raidian?

[sly harness]

Mizuki is useable, he isn't exactly meta but works decent

[faint rampart]

i smell slander

[manic flint]

where and how do i get to steady stream

[faint rampart]

fat bear encounter

[manic flint]

that one on floor 1?

[faint rampart]

yeah^

[manic flint]

dang i see

[tired wyvern]

Oh, then ig just watch a guide for a floor 6 rob or just skip the rob and finish the cuz u don't want to loose all that progress

[solar falcon]

do yan operators have to be candleguests to count for the Doubt nodes?

[sly harness]

No

[odd rose]

I managed to rob and win

[tired wyvern]

Ayy grats 🎉

[odd rose]

Ed3 done

Only 4, to go ig

[sly harness]

@solar tree and anyone interested in a live breakdown of IS6 run you can check the livestream availability here #1494174768943992923 message

[solar tree]

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

asmr

[bronze pine]

guys pls help how to beat this level?

[floral plaza]

the 2 melee tiles near red box are safe

[faint rampart]

can phantom s2 trigger sash2 slash...i guess not

[floral plaza]

he does

[faint rampart]

oh wow

[floral plaza]

oh wait you mean the weird alpha effect?

sa is based on deployment

tho you can fast play the summon for 20 stacks asap pretty sure

[bronze pine]

i really hate is for not telling you what every single new enemy do until you loses and have to do it all over again

[floral plaza]

tbf out side of the pokeballs all the enemies are old in that map

now wang is another story

[bronze pine]

my first move was placing silver ash inside those balls and lost the game

[faint rampart]

i mean him and has clone
the slash aoe seems pretty good for clearing balls and fodder enemies

[bronze pine]

like how am i supposed to know it

it isnt clear at all

[floral plaza]

if you deploy him and clone that should be 400% bonus attack with double slash

might be enough

[faint rampart]

assuming this is their first time...prolly low diff i hope

[bronze pine]

its ascension 10

[floral plaza]

idk if his sa is even s2

[faint rampart]

surely

[bronze pine]

whoever made this module req is evil

[ivory snow]

Skill issue

[floral plaza]

tbf that module is for IS nerds

and IS nerds like those quests

[faint rampart]

d10 is the farming diff so...not so evil

[floral plaza]

D15 is the farming diffeculty wdym

[ivory snow]

This.

[faint rampart]

too high standards, we're in en

[floral plaza]

will until d18 happen of course

[ivory snow]

I remember unlocking raidens modules in d12

[floral plaza]

tbh i was just unlocking them while climbing

[ivory snow]

Took me 3 months.

[faint rampart]

also im not so sure about ela in is6
unless thats your only option
might wanna go with someone more useful

[ivory snow]

I was unlocking them as i climb diffs

But man. It was a hard choice.

[faint rampart]

arene beehunter instead of wscoot luo

🤔

[floral plaza]

tbf specalist ticket is like 5 limiteds/collabs and a kernal op

[ivory snow]

The diff increase in this is is no joke

[faint rampart]

exu2
ascalon
swire2 if you ban exu2?

[floral plaza]

tbh pretty based if her raised bee hunter

[glad wasp]

any way to avoid is5 boss to shuffle around my units ?

[rough chasm]

WHAT DID I DO WHY IS THIS THING HERE

[steel relic]

you picked up a relic that said body of Sui would raid you in battle

that is body of Sui

raiding you in battle

[errant siren]

Butterfly Encounter and your grief to take Relic with 30 Ingot cost.

Now bear with End2 Sui Leg.

[rough chasm]

oh my god

😭

[rough chasm]

why would i want this

AT ALL

[steel relic]

it's ending related

[flint token]

Also the inkstick it drops is pretty nice

[cunning karma]

for your foot fetish

[solar tree]

what did I come back to

[solar tree]

time to leak 30 and lose run

:ya:

[sly harness]

Has anyone been watching the stream?

[jagged heath]

Are typhon's and spalter's modules any good

How do they compare to other IS mods

[inland elbow]

typhon looks bad, spalter looks niche

[jagged heath]

It's over

[faint rampart]

i quit after the disappointing hello hello

[sly harness]

[odd rose]

can someone pls explain to me what's the value or archetto on IS?

[sly harness]

SP battery

[odd rose]

i get what she does but i don't fully get how powerful it is

[rapid pulsar]

Gives steroids to offensive recovery skills

[rapid pulsar]

Imagine monster s3

[faint rampart]

not that powerful and universal as yt makes it out to be

[rapid pulsar]

Very good skill but it requires a bunch of sp

With archetto she can trigger it much faster

But yeah it’s overhyped

[odd rose]

maybe it's because is5 has rotten my brain i just perma haver her s3 for example

so idk where she would give sp there

[sly harness]

You can't guarantee the starting SP

[odd rose]

funny enough none of the videos i've seen sell it as game breaking

[odd rose]

oh yeah

im interested coz i also have sakiko

and she is all offensive recovery

[faint rampart]

well then you know its not actually that powerful :run:

saki m3 the main candidates....uhhh not so sure how they perform in 3-4

[odd rose]

in 3 i use sakiko a lot but i also haven't played much to give conclusions

[sly harness]

Degen + Archetto IS3 surely

[odd rose]

4 haven't touch much at all

[sly harness]

Sakiko in IS3

[odd rose]

it does damage!

idk if that's good enough

but it's a correct factual statement

honestly just considering archeto from shop coz
1- she cute
2- my other option is viviana and we know how mid viviana is
3- sounds fun

i started to just start enjoying IS lately

[inland elbow]

if it seems fun then why not

cheeto isn't a bad op

just not drafted in meta comps

[odd rose]

here a question

do you need meta comps?

[inland elbow]

meta comps increase your winrate

[sly harness]

Iirc there are a lot of good upcoming shop operators (okay maybe they are not that strong)

[inland elbow]

up to you if that matters

[inland elbow]

wtf

this isn't a guide vid!

[odd rose]

ngl i either have them already or would skip them anyways, the ones i care about come out at the end of the year (ascalon and logos)

[odd rose]

i mean i feel that's pretty obvious, but that doesn't mean they're needed which is why i ask

like you could say meta is a requirement for smth like max risk CC

and that's just ture

[inland elbow]

I guess

[odd rose]

idk if that's true for high dif is though

[inland elbow]

though even in max risk cc, you have a lot of leeway

as long as you don't try for the lowest op

high diff IS the main problem is that meta ops fill in niches that other ops can't

or simply do them way better

but like, you could always get lucky and get a broken collectible

so it's hard to say an operator is mandatory

just that you'll feel like defenestrating yourself playing max diff without some ops

[faint rampart]

so its a guide exclusive thingy 😔
~~time to wait for izumik guide ~~

[odd rose]

like who?

legit just asking to learn not stating anything

[inland elbow]

example of this would be degenbrecher back in 2024 when is4 dlc came out

the hardest stage in the game was release which was called sentinel

[odd rose]

oh i've seen the shit

[inland elbow]

and degenbrecher was better than the second best option by like 3 fold

[odd rose]

looks hard

i can see why degen would be good

[inland elbow]

you could win without degenbrecher, but you'd need a way luckier run

in general sweaty nerds at high diff view winning as a winrate

because anyone can win once, but winning consistently is what proves you're good

and is pretty fun

[odd rose]

yeh

cur meta would be like

mon3tr, lemon, wis, tragodia and exu2?

those are the ones i see a lot

[inland elbow]

It depends on the is

M3 is only big in is5

Exu2 is big in all IS

Trag is big in 3, 4 and in talons in 5

Wis is big in all of them except 4 where it's weird

Lemuen is mainly relevant in 3 and 4

It's like cc where the demands of the IS heavily influence what ops are good

[odd rose]

makes sense

what's the is6 meta?

[cursive verge]

raidian for sure

Theres exu2 and hoshi2 asw

For rest wait for bait

Actually I am not so sure about hoshi2 being 'meta'

[inland elbow]

Yeah you radian hoshi exu alt wis

And then do whatever for the rest

In dlc2 things change

But rn just take those 4 and win tbh

[cursive verge]

Whats meta in dlc2

[inland elbow]

Similar but you need yato alt + more ops to help deal with the enemies

And wis becomes less important

[cursive verge]

[sly harness]

Generally the core is quite similar but the remaining picks no longer are "pick whatever", you need to prepare your draft for ed5

Vigil will be meta

[cursive verge]

[crystal niche]

Similar but more?

[sly harness]

The RA CC type of stall

[crystal niche]

[faint rampart]

wher saki chan

[cursive verge]

In school

[sly harness]

I would like to say dead

[cursive verge]

Uncnar dead asw or can I cope with him

[inland elbow]

He's not drafted yeah

Bro was drafted day 1 but people got better

[cursive verge]

Time to cope

[inland elbow]

Then chen3 put the nail in every other guards coffin

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-sus-suspicious-susgeemote-emotesusge-gif-12862771718631627642

[coral hornet]

i feel like im missing out on is 4 and 5 as i didnt even bother to finish one run, lvl 60 in is2 and about 20 in is 3 and 6

which one of them would be more fun

[inland elbow]

I think they all have their merits, maybe start from the older ones and go up though

[coral hornet]

i really like 2 and 6 but idk im just a casual

[inland elbow]

Since it'd stop you from having unwarranted expectations about how older IS should be based on future editions

[coral hornet]

i usually just come back for anni event or cny but this time i feel like i should do more

and i even think that i didnt even do ending 3 and 4 of is2 even though im lvl 60 candles

just playing to play cause i like is2

between 4 and 5 which is least insufferable then

[faint rampart]

if you like big numbers screenshots then go with is5
can always play is4 once d18 is here😇

[inland elbow]

Is5 is like the easiest IS if you're not going for ending 4

[coral hornet]

alright ill try it then this time with better units than last time for sure

[odd rose]

offf

i don't have any is6 meta unit them

except raidian ofc

these are basically my best units for is6

and him but i just got him

[cunning karma]

just don't play ed5t3 without Yato2

[floral plaza]

[faint rampart]

can just borrow exu2 and you're good for 23

[floral plaza]

[rough chasm]

exactly what happened

[odd rose]

that's the t3?

[rough chasm]

can some 1 hop on vc help me do IS

[sly harness]

But Saki can DPS the ed2

[odd rose]

sakiko can dps god

don't ask her for utility though, all she can do is hurt people

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1402599107972960256/IMG_1077.gif

can i say lemuen can also dps

[sly harness]

With ed3 debuff she won't have SP

And even though Saki just dies to Sui too she has more stats so babysitting her is easier

And she has some immortality in her kit

[cunning karma]

The most difficult variant of ed5, where you need to kill some stupid shit that reflects 20% asap or you'll die to insane waves of mobs

[faint rampart]

reasonable i guess 🫠

[odd rose]

use both

[odd rose]

ohhh

yeah i prob wont

so like

i like hard content

but if it becomes just a lottery where i need the meta and if i don't i lose unless extremely lucky i just won't do it

kinda why i hated IS till i got many units leveled

because before i was malding i kept getting specialist and caster tickets when i had no especialists or casters

[cunning karma]

Omg it's Mr beast

[odd rose]

i see that scam like once per week

[rich thorn]

<@&586570970345635868>

Omg robux

[faint rampart]

maybe a good idea if its just a lowroll run and i dont need wis

[rich thorn]

5-6 times only in this discord

[low vortex]

[rich thorn]

The know something idk

[odd rose]

btw how does closure look for IS

i keep people swearing in lowlights name she's amazing in IS

[rich thorn]

That's glazing

[odd rose]

ik but i'm curious

the closure copers are insane

[rich thorn]

10 hope for dp only not worth imo

[odd rose]

they say s3 is amazing dmg

[rich thorn]

And low utility

[odd rose]

250% atk!!! scales AMAZIGN with relics

[rich thorn]

SA2 and ines better for that hope price

[odd rose]

yeah i guessed so

just wanted to confirm

[cunning karma]

Her damage is fine but she doesn't have the utilities like SA2

[odd rose]

if i wanted dmg i wouldn't got for a vanguard in the first place

[rich thorn]

True

[odd rose]

just wanted to confirm my doubts about the constant closure cope

[rich thorn]

I can name main closure coper

Pard

[faint rampart]

woah woah slander

[rich thorn]

Because I saw like 3 videos with closure face

[odd rose]

was jsut watching a video of his

[cunning karma]

Bloodywolf claimed that she might be the best vg in CC though

[sly harness]

On the one hand there are a lot of clicks baiting with her current on the other to see meaningful results we need to wait a month or two

[odd rose]

potential vanguard

007

0 feats

0 utility

[odd rose]

7 possible uses in a cc that hasn't happen

[rich thorn]

Storm doing that closure glaze too

[odd rose]

and it's funny

[faint rampart]

p*rd only has 1 tho🥀

[sly harness]

And there is IS7 too, the first months won't be especially important probably but we don't know anything about it yet

[rich thorn]

Misinformed, it was storn

Same shit

[odd rose]

wasn't pard closure showcase just a typhoon showcase in desguise?

[sly harness]

Btw whose quote is this?

[arctic panther]

qout

[odd rose]

supah i think?

[faint rampart]

okay to hate but cant drag bro's name in every slander smh

[rich thorn]

Supah prob

[odd rose]

yeah it's supah's

[rich thorn]

Cuz letters looks like that one what he loves to use

[odd rose]

yeah it's his stream thumbnail

[rich thorn]

Don't forget, storn is the man who was overglazed saki harem ambusher

With quotes "better than ascalon"

[odd rose]

it's similar to ascalon s1 purely in dmg but it requires you to use sakiko's worst skill

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

Surely we using asca for dmg

[sly harness]

Sakiko has other skills than S3?

[cunning karma]

It's an environment where Saileach could matter, and Closure can actually kill dogs

[rich thorn]

Yes

[odd rose]

s2 is her best skill for most maps in the game

[rich thorn]

I m9 her

🫃

[crystal niche]

🥀

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

kamael in his hater arc too wtf

[odd rose]

sakiko s2 is for the easy maps you go asleep doing so you put her there and she solo's the stage

[cunning karma]

Saki S1 + Umiri S1 really good afk slop

[crystal niche]

Let him hate

[odd rose]

and afk strats

[faint rampart]

bait lukas stream really affected people in some negative way frfr

[sly harness]

Can she solve Beyond Mount and Sea?

[crystal niche]

Which stream

[odd rose]

it's not bad in any way but i would rather just use sakiko s2 +ethan

[sly harness]

If yes she may be good

Better than Ascalon even because less Hope

[cunning karma]

Why choose the worse option smh

[rough chasm]

can some 1 hop on vc help me do IS

im nob

[cunning karma]

Don't even want to m3 Saki S2

[odd rose]

s2 is my most used skill

[rich thorn]

No

[faint rampart]

read the IS central guide, might be helpful

[rich thorn]

Because fear on s2 is fraud

🥀

[odd rose]

anywways i got my answer

[sly harness]

It will be posted on IS Central channel soon™

[odd rose]

closure copers are coping hard

[rich thorn]

Ethan better for that

Lmao

[cunning karma]

Mujica can actually solve beyond mount and sea frfr

Nyamu good

[crystal niche]

[faint rampart]

investing views in baits channel better tho

[rough chasm]

erm

i dont wnana read

[sly harness]

I think on mobile devices there is an option to use AI to read the website content for you

🧑‍💻

[crystal niche]

That's prob an extension

[odd rose]

ave mujica good, i use mutsumi as sacrifice for is6 ed2 paw

[sly harness]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/

[odd rose]

https://tenor.com/view/mutsumi-wakaba-mortis-ave-mujica-mutsumi-spin-mortis-spin-gif-4671606853899616323

[sly harness]

I have something like this and I haven't installed anything for that

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

[sly harness]

Uncanny

[rough chasm]

ermm

[odd rose]

can i stab the AI voices

[rough chasm]

worsd goes thru my head

pls speak to me or i brain mush

[rich thorn]

Supah at least have his own style and good memes

[rich thorn]

"place joke about archetto as mujika member in IS here"

[sly harness]

I think someone may hate theorycrafting a bit

[rich thorn]

[faint rampart]

🤧

[cunning karma]

Saki+Umiri had a 2-op H7-4 record, it's actually good damage but then there comes Wang who solo it

[rich thorn]

Remove wang pls, too op

[faint rampart]

he gotta help me complete events faster :reallyMad:

[sly harness]

Wang doesn't sound too good

You need to click a lot

Useless unit

[rich thorn]

Who cares, with that massive res ignore

[odd rose]

there's no joke, u just right

[cunning karma]

Very true

[odd rose]

i like supah's videos

[sly harness]

I can just place prama with S2

[faint rampart]

too poor to have afk units
2 wis tier sounds good for random bullshit

[odd rose]

even if he says something factually mathematically wrong

i don't care

i don't get why people get furious when a youtuber says something wrong with no impact on anyone's life

[rich thorn]

I swear, I'm gonna fucking handmix in IS5

[cunning karma]

Just draft casters

[odd rose]

ugh

i gotta do ed5 in is5

last time i got trolled by encounter nodes

[grizzled nexus]

Do Talisman HP/Hit Count is a constant thing or they varied at any stage. And can Talisman HP be affected by the -% HP tongbao/relic effect?

[sly harness]

They are not affected by floor base scaling but other stuff affects them

[cunning karma]

bloodshed works

[sly harness]

There may be some exceptions but you should be able to see all of that on tomimi

[rough chasm]

hop on vc help me do IS right neow bud

[fierce jay]

yeah youtuber that has no restraint

says whatever he wants

[odd rose]

he's a good entretainer

the way he says stuff is entretaining

[robust rivet]

love this game

[inland elbow]

Hell yeah

[inland elbow]

I don't watch his content and don't care about him much at all, but his opinions have a large influence on a lot of people

People on reddit and discord are super guilty of watching their favorite aktuber and saying whatever they say

Personally I think if you have a platform, you should take some accountability about the stuff you put out in the world

Instead of just saying it's for entertainment or that you're trolling

[odd rose]

honestly taking any one youtuber as factual is just wrong

you gotta get multiple points of view and get your own understanding

[inland elbow]

Tell that to other people not me

And you can say that, but I don't think supah puts much research into his takes

So putting the responsibility on the listener when the creator doesn't even try is kinda weird

For what it's worth, I only get to find out his takes when people talk about them in regards to IS

So I only get to hear about his bad takes

But like, I remember hearing that the guy said Angelina with IS module wasn't good in IS

And that haruka was better

And like lmao

Apparently he then doubled down when corrected and made a community post about it calling IS nerds toxic

[sly harness]

It’s hard to expect satisfying takes about IS if the IS he most likely has in mind is completely different from the IS you know

[crystal niche]

[carmine token]

U should take someone opinion but not make it ur whole point

do reasearch

Low tier is is completily diff from high tier is

or even mid tier like d10-14

[remote badger]

wuh

[odd rose]

Oh yeah he is very reactive to critism

[odd rose]

To some degree both sre at fault

Like especificaly this closure situation

Supah said she looks fine and above avarage, just not top of the meta

And everyone just heard "she is trash"

And got mad at him

"supah said closure is mid/trash"

[slate hull]

wait, what is the source of the drama? is closure really good and people are mad she was rated too low?

[sly harness]

gacha people are weird

(Simply present a strictly mathematically accurate overview; surely nothing could go wrong there)

[west quarry]

i doubt people dislike supah because he says mathematically wrong stuff

other people do that all the time

[remote badger]

bait pls summarize

i just wale up

[west quarry]

people dislike supah because he's a bait channel

and also the gummy incident

[odd rose]

Oh i get that, but a lot of people actually just hate him because he said something wrong

[west quarry]

his channel formula is ragebait > collect views > make fun of people taking the ragebait

[west quarry]

of course

and i think thats completely valid when you know he's actually capable of saying somehting half right but chooses to ragebait or mislead newbies

its not like hes just misinformed or glueless

[odd rose]

I've seen a lot of the lime he just genuinely is just wrong

And believes that

[west quarry]

his abrasive social media presence doesnt help either

[odd rose]

I mean i can get why people hate him, i just don't really care

[west quarry]

or rather it does help him because his goal is this

ragebait gets views

[west quarry]

well i mean

now you get him

cause backreading you said you didn't

[remote badger]

so it is

[west quarry]

sometimes people can get mad over inconsequential things purely because hes an asshole

that's just how it is

[remote badger]

just ragebaiting

[odd rose]

What I don't understand is the closure situation

[west quarry]

what closure situation

[sly harness]

Idk for me it is just the case of a specific delivery, if you don't like his blunt and unapologetic style just ignore him

[west quarry]

also idk why people forgot about supah gummy incident that's my main main main issue with him

as for info theres literally 0 reason to watch him when dragongjy exists

[sly harness]

a what?

[odd rose]

Supah saying closure is not meta just a good unit, storm saying she's absolutely broken and insane, then people just amseeing that as "supah said closure bad"

[west quarry]

i agree with that actually

supah is not a meta unit

why did i say that

closure* is not a meta unit

lol

[odd rose]

Yeah i think so too

[west quarry]

s2 has the theoretical highest """"dp gen"""" in the game but the range restriction is

total damage is fine for a vg but damage quality is

[odd rose]

Also the slot requirements

[west quarry]

like

[odd rose]

That's the thing

[west quarry]

its only 3x3 range

[odd rose]

Noone saying she's bad

[west quarry]

and u cant even place the drone globally

like

???

[west quarry]

can't talk about it here

[odd rose]

People just hating on people that say she's not meta

[west quarry]

kalt2 isnt meta either

that's my initial assessment using them

just like how exu s2 isn't "meta"

[odd rose]

Idk about that, she's prob better than closure at least

And by idk about that i mean it literally

Idk

[west quarry]

they're almost ... n--i

😱

[odd rose]

You mean s3?

[west quarry]

oh

right

yeah

its in the morning my brain doesnt work rn

itll have its uses for sure

[odd rose]

Dw

People just took supah calling the unit good but not meta as an insult to their mother and everyone that days that is a supah simp and a storm hater

And like why?

[west quarry]

because peopledont like him

simple as that lol

when your entire online presence is curated to be ragebait people will assume you are infact ragebaiting

not surprising

[odd rose]

Supah here is just the biggest example of the cope getting out of hand but even i a nobody have gotten pissed off people

[sly harness]

Is discussion the CN meta now is even important for global now?

Can't we just wait to see whether something is just a potential man/woman or a real 🧑‍💻. We have 5 months or foresight just for that

[odd rose]

Yeah can't deny that

[west quarry]

people are impatient

im just giving my initial thoughts

[odd rose]

It's fun

It's fun to see what new chars do

How via le they are

[west quarry]

i think theyr efun

[odd rose]

Even some agenda posting

It's fun

[sly harness]

And all I see is drama and overreacting

Fun

[west quarry]

ultimately i kinda dont give a shit about meta naymore

[odd rose]

But when people take it serious it becomes a pain

[remote badger]

sleep

[odd rose]

[remote badger]

this drama is probably worth for me to sleep

[odd rose]

Oh yeah for sure

It's worthless

[west quarry]

its slop drama but its just like

regular supah things

people dislike him

sometimes for good reason sometimes for irrational ones

[odd rose]

This time is irrational

[cunning karma]

You need to know CN meta to spend $30 on hool and be prepared for IS6 DLC2

[odd rose]

Too bad i spend them on GG

[viral quail]

My take is if i pull Closure she's the second coming of Myrtle and if i get shafted she's a clip farming fraud

[west quarry]

"second coming of myrtle"

the myrtle glaze neds to be stopped

[odd rose]

Here people hate myrtle

[west quarry]

she is literally the worst flagbearer

[odd rose]

But i literally used her till i got silver ash

Because she was comfy

[west quarry]

yeah and people use thorns still

and ulpianus in is6

let them , idk man

[viral quail]

all flags are fraudulent anyways

[odd rose]

I mean why not afk strat, the least we have to play the gmvideogame the better

[viral quail]

ngl 7th Anni banner's really good for my account

I got all the units Kal and Closure synergizes with

[odd rose]

I also don't have Elysium

[viral quail]

_ _
I'd save up a pity for it but Wang is Wang

[odd rose]

That's also why

[viral quail]

[odd rose]

[viral quail]

speaking of vanguards its crazy how i still don't have Surfer nor Canta

[sly harness]

Ye but you see this was already tested in practice. On paper the Hool module seemed bad too

[odd rose]

5*s are never guarsnteed unless you get them with certs

[west quarry]

well i mean we already tested closure and kal

to some extent

[sly harness]

[west quarry]

they do as well as youd expect in is

[odd rose]

What's crazy is that people feel insulted when they hear a char ain't meta

[west quarry]

who cares

pull mantra

[odd rose]

Like dude just pull your favs this game easy anyways

[west quarry]

play mantragodia

[sly harness]

Do we have a win streak of IS6 d18 235t3 with them

[west quarry]

not that i know of

[viral quail]

I wish Kalter's S1 was an actual good medic skill

ik her whole thing is the 'harmacist' meme but i would'd liked the option

[west quarry]

i dont think theyd be high level drafts but im not a high level player

[viral quail]

[west quarry]

so

leave it to those people to try them out first

[west quarry]

s3 is pure healing

its serviceable

[odd rose]

Did you know kalter s2 can waste bullets on allies

[west quarry]

i dun like s2

it wants to scale off aspd but its fucking ammo based

like weve already been through medics and ammo

[glossy elk]

i doing a run on Normal dif on IS6 for ED2 and 2 of defenders vouncher one i get a temp Yu and the other a temp Shu WTF is happening ?

[west quarry]

it didnt work out so well last time idk why they do it again

[west quarry]

you can get temp wisadel and trag

[odd rose]

I did the calc an in a vacum if you buff kalter with mon3tr s2 you get her to match m3 s3 dps

This doesn't really mean much coz it's in a vacum

[west quarry]

wow

[odd rose]

But i found it funny

[west quarry]

i get to simulate m3 s3

by using m3

[glossy elk]

i did get a long time a Temp Wis but why now i get 2 Sui sibilings when i go do ED2 on normal

[west quarry]

incredible bro

and then the ammo runs out

[odd rose]

I mean taking in count downtime

[west quarry]

ig yeah in a vacuum

but m3 has less downtime in practice with scaling

[glossy elk]

i only doing this run on normal on ED2 for get Wang items

[odd rose]

M3 s3 has pros and cons but just objectively wins in dmg

[west quarry]

yeah

not to mention aspd scaling

[odd rose]

here the calc

ignore mon3tr^2

someone asked me to

[west quarry]

[odd rose]

mon3tr s3 with mon3tr s2

anyways this was my conclusion

though this is still in a vacum

in reality both has pros and cons that make my newbie ass not get a real conclusion

kalter has way bigger range, hits air, true aoe and can turn off the skill, also take off

mo3tr does more dmg and it's a better support

also scales better with aspd

[slate hull]

damn, guess we gotta wait for kalter is mod

I'm not actually being serious, it is just a funny thing to say about an op who has only been out for a few days

[cunning karma]

[odd rose]

Nah u right

Buff her

Break her

Make her drop wangs

[cunning karma]

Kal can fly, and her S3 is like exu2 S3, why just compare the true damage with m3 and say "Kal is bad let's wait for IS mod"

[faint rampart]

this op doesn't have taunt like mly
must be bad

[west quarry]

not saying shes bad

but we both know exu isnt meta in is for her s3

not the main reason at least

im excited for people to cook up s3 though

[cunning karma]

that's her only use in IS6 ed5

[west quarry]

enroute exists too 😔

hool is great in ed5 but ass enroute

[odd rose]

The thing about her s3 is that it will give her uses even after her dmg falls off

Doesn't mean it's the meta skill though

[west quarry]

regarding s3

who knows

i didnt use it enough

[odd rose]

S3 is very meta in low op.clears in story ig?

[viral quail]

I need Kalter just so i can do the ExuHoshi infinite loop

[sly harness]

No. Because Raidian, Ling, Wang solo this stuff

Raidian S3 is used in relicless IS though

[odd rose]

No, I don't see the first 2 in a lot of the modern clears, wang idk

[sly harness]

The new chapter was mostly solo cleared by Wang

The thing about Exu S3 is that it redeploys only melee units and there are like 2 or 3 units worth that

Okay looks like Wang is solo clearing almost every modern EX and S stage

[odd rose]

The H stages aren't even out

But again

Wang idk

Didn't look much into him

He disgusts me

[viral quail]

mfw i deploy 5 Texalters for 2dp on a 2 seconds cooldown

[odd rose]

you see

that's not fun

just global fuck you dmg

for the sake of global fuck you dmg

is unfun

[flint token]

ok uhh

do i pick leifa or tactile

[west quarry]

depends

do u need more bosky carries

do you have bells

do you have ingots

[flint token]

Oh right i think i got bells

[west quarry]

or just take lei fa since you can plan it

yeah take it

[sly harness]

"Can give you cocoon" tier coin

[slate hull]

all roads lead to cocoon

but some are faster than others

[desert brook]

wowie

[flint token]

Fuckkk liuer just had to appear before the shop node

sorry but im not gonna buy your lump for 60 ingots

[gritty mason]

is pram2 s3 worth mastery? i find myself using it sometimes in IS

[tropic adder]

Y'all think I can win IS6 ending 1 with this?

[cunning karma]

[desert brook]

she hits pram and falls down

[crystal niche]

Soooo

Did u win?

[tropic adder]

I haventt played it yet

I'm waiting for break time, so I don't randomly leavesa and lost progress

[oblique carbon]

how are you gonna hold sui in the top side

[arctic panther]

freeze probably

[oblique carbon]

there is no way e1level50 gummy can tank sui + his suicide bomber jellyfish things

[glossy elk]

managed beat ED2 on normal and unlocked Wang Items ,so for what i understand i need have 5 candle operators ,find the board flip them get a item and fight a special battle on the pathfinder and completed to do ED3?

[oblique carbon]

actually scratch allat, where is bro's raidian

[arctic panther]

its probably d0 or smth

[tropic adder]

I don't

[oblique carbon]

so how are you gonna hold the left lane then

since they're gonna get nuked eventually

[tropic adder]

(I lost)

[real mason]

sight-seeing scroll in IS6 doesn't count towards Raidian proficiencies, right?

[desert brook]

probably not

doesn't give her any exp either afaik

[real mason]

alright thank you

[wind valley]

:3 ?

[frail hearth]

how to do end 2 in is 4

[errant siren]

Uooooooogh, Sanksussy 😭

Yeah, top option triggers the battle

It's... fair

[flint token]

Combat is combat

free as shit anyway

fortuna on her way to miss an entire magdump

[errant siren]

1. Lost and Found, pick +4 Collapse option.
2. Use 2 Gray runes on any battle you want to and enter new brand Prophecy you have just created.
3. Pick +3 Hope Treescar Helm.
4. On Prophecy before F5 Final Boss, the bottom button will be available to choose. Click it to trigger End2.

[wind valley]

Mane

After finishing is6

I miss the pathfinder nodes :(

Everything costs so much in is5

[frail hearth]

okayy, how about ed 3 in is 3??

[errant siren]

1. Scout > Additional Enemies relic.
2. On new floor, Prophecy may spawn on most bottom side of the map, with Emergency Ops battle in the front. You must reach it.
3. Pick +3 Collapse Flower Relic.

[quick steppe]

(in is3)

[frail hearth]

wait, is it not is 3?

[crystal niche]

That's is4 the guy above explain ed

[errant siren]

Bruh

[crystal niche]

[errant siren]

1. Mizuki and Doctor Encounter, pick -5 Light every battle Bishops Research.
2. Find Encounter with Mayan's Calendar. Scroll down and pick "Search the garden" for "eldrish" relic.

3. (OPTIONAL) You may take Encounter with Abysmal Hunters statue underwater, it gives 2 global buffs permanently.

[frail hearth]

thank you very much my comrade🔥📳

[flint token]

*additional note about 3: dont actually try to go for this encounter it’s still rare as shit, better to build power through combat

Also depend on the difficulty you play in it might be unwise to stack light gain relics to counteract the light drain as you want to be in the dimmed state for better pathing

[frail hearth]

okayyy

[earnest shuttle]

(I dont know how to play flower squad )

[arctic panther]

(me neither )

[cunning karma]

I went for the orienteering again, of course it's swire

at least not an ulpi dupe

[karmic iron]

guided tour 13 done really love this tongbao (-40% sp and skill activate auto)

not having chance to spend those lp in sui’s realm last floor only focus on turmoil stages (get even more rewards)

[cunning karma]

afk slop tongbao

SA2 S2 + Dream Curio is actually really funny

[grizzled nexus]

• if paired with that relic that gave +0.4 SP regeneration after skill activation.

[karmic iron]

IKR

[karmic iron]

yeah, iirc there was +0.2 and +0.5 for all, i only got +0.4 for caster that run hehe

[karmic iron]

my top1 tongbao coz u can p much just afk hehehehe

aside from that, perhaps tongbao -65% redploy time but -2 deployment limit

[grizzled nexus]

and that one that gives -35% SP for Vanguard skills.

[karmic iron]

lol yeah, got that as well

collectible

[remote cradle]

Wtf did IS6 receive an expansion? First time seeing this guy? What do I get for killing it?

[arctic panther]

it got an expansion like 2 months ago

[remote cradle]

Eh? But I never seen this mob before

It's even more rare compared to the duck, bear, wolf and rat

[grizzled nexus]

Way rarer and harder than them. It will nuke + stun any ops in 3.5 tiles around it after it gets hit 15 times. The stun is 15 seconds too.

You need to have Nukers and Stun/Frozen/Silence to cheese it. Or maybe also Elemental Damage dealer like Tragodia's S2 Cat (Necrosis/Burn/Nervous Impairment)

The reward for defeating it is like usual. Free +1 relic.

[atomic pelican]

Lame

At least rarer ones?

[errant siren]

It's just bonus enemy like Duck and his gang.

Free random relic if killed.

[karmic iron]

ever met this dragie thrice and all at floor 1 and 2 so couldnt kill it sadly

random encounter indeed

and harder than the gang

[atomic pelican]

I met it once at floor 1, I didn’t even had op who could attack flying

[karmic iron]

[karmic iron]

quite pain to deal with in earlier floor 💀

[brazen bane]

It's easy if you can ground it with cc

[tropic adder]

She is still at E1 tho, is she still usable there

[earnest shuttle]

shes the main carry for is6

[tropic adder]

The thing is, I don't know how to use her , can you guide me how to

[oblique carbon]

even at e1 she does a hell of a job to stall sui at the top of the map

[oblique carbon]

put s2 turrets down, use skill if something needs to die fast or if you run out of drones, and for your case if you have no one else to stall, s1 works too

s3 also has its uses but not as generalist as s2

[tropic adder]

alr thank you

[earnest shuttle]

I think theres guide in the pins
if I explain everything now it would be wall of texts
just know that her main skill is s2, which is a long range summon that perform well both in attacking and defending

[tropic adder]

thanks

[surreal dew]

approx how many runs is it to get to level 65 in IS 5 or 6 for that operator skill training thing

ive done 5-6 semi successful runs and got to about level 10 and im just wondering if it scales the higher you go

[earnest shuttle]

rougly 10 runs if you managed to beat the boss

[surreal dew]

oh really

[tropic adder]

10 successful runs??

[surreal dew]

damn ive only managed to kill it once but got rly close like 4 times

[earnest shuttle]

yep because you get like 5 or 6 bp level when you beat the boss and complete your run

[surreal dew]

can i do basically the same run over and over

10 times

cuz i know what my comp was to beat it

[earnest shuttle]

yea

[surreal dew]

worrrrd

ty

[faint rampart]

wait your name is d18 now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

congrats

[surreal dew]

whats d18

[earnest shuttle]

oh yeah diff 18

[earnest shuttle]

difficulty 18
it goes from 0 to 15/18 depends on each IS mode

[surreal dew]

ohh ic

[earnest shuttle]

the higher the diff the more bp exp you get
but most of them capped at diff 7/10 so you wouldnt have to fight the hardest one

[surreal dew]

kk noted

also

im around the same level in both is 5 and 6

what do you suggest i do

cuz they both have that skill pack

[faint rampart]

5 is faster with 15 mins per run

[earnest shuttle]

I would say IS5 is easier to rush bp due to lamp

[surreal dew]

mmm k

ty

[earnest shuttle]

[surreal dew]

time to griiind

[tropic adder]

Is E1 purestream enough for IS6?

[stiff crest]

is6 expansion is so fun

[paper notch]

wtf raidian in is5

[tired wyvern]

I took civilight by mistake, but turns out haruka isn't needed at all.

[errant siren]

Yeah, Lemuen the Phantom's ass off and now the stage is zzzzz.

[brazen bane]

dodge this you casual

[tired wyvern]

Phantom tried to run away so many times, i used cat to get bro back in lemuen range until lemeun finsihed marking him 😭

[simple rover]

finally... good god

hhhoooo very cool art

[brazen bane]

strongest bromance on Terra

[simple rover]

3 more to go

[errant siren]

Where trim on IS4

Get back and do D10.

[simple rover]

hah? i dont get it...

[errant siren]

You lack trimmed medal for difficulty

Like the one from Mizuki

[simple rover]

hooo can u show me what it looks like?

[remote badger]

shinier