is-station

[nocturne cape]

sakiko

[quick steppe]

sakiko

[remote badger]

ente

[severe oasis]

i grab the goat saki chan

[sly harness]

sakiko

[prime mountain]

Sakiko boring zzz

press skill everything dies

[sly harness]

[remote badger]

i do use saki too

[solar tree]

isn't that a good thing

?

[sly harness]

I wonder. Is sakiko useful if you can't scale high?

[severe oasis]

i think her only being used in 5/6 answers it

[sly harness]

She seems very relics dependent so if you know what to do you will usually get good value from her but relicless she probably will be ass

[sly harness]

I think people don't know how to scale well in IS6 (although maybe they get enough anyways)

[quick steppe]

i mean if we keep going in the relicgem direction

sakiko stock only goes higher

[severe oasis]

i dont rly know how to get 100 relics consistently but shes fine for me

[quick steppe]

also good in stronghold protocol

[gaunt bay]

I use saiki mly

Im ready for dlc2

😇

[quick steppe]

but also ho ol stock will rise

[earnest shuttle]

I heard sakiko + umiri is better than ascalon + another operators, so would that make her effective for relicless run ?

[quick steppe]

they fixed another ho ol bug and her stock went up again

[severe oasis]

im unironically gonna build her i think but unfortunately shes like 4th on the list rn

[inland elbow]

The collectible sucks and you shouldn't take it

[nocturne cape]

if anything this makes her effective for afk runs

[solar tree]

maybe weird question but how are you actually supposed to path in these? feels like I almost never get value out of the boskies

[rocky frigate]

yea the knight kept dying bcuz of that 💔

[severe oasis]

brother

[inland elbow]

She has 0 relicless records lmao, I'm not counting a frickint d15 record

[quick steppe]

ho ol has a relicless record 😊

[severe oasis]

which stage

[quick steppe]

rules of modern warfare

[severe oasis]

incredible

[sly harness]

Okay I wasn't actually talking about relicsless but more about the casual ~35 relics runs

[prime mountain]

Does hool relicless leakless count getting one leak because of her mod

[sly harness]

Yes this is relicless in IS6

[quick steppe]

wait this is a good q

can you count it as leakless if you leak the 1 ho ol shield

[severe oasis]

lukas how many relics do u get avg in dlc1

[inland elbow]

This is like me saying lamp relics is relicless in is5

[gaunt bay]

I will build hool after i GET and build pram

[inland elbow]

Tbh I'd be inclined to say yeah sure

Idk what cn consensus is though

[sly harness]

So when I was grinding badges (24 runs with all squads usually no bans) 65-110, usually around 80

Now I am mainly relics maxing so usually 100+

[severe oasis]

do u post runs or stream or nah

[sly harness]

They don't allow Swire with Ingots

[inland elbow]

Lukas why aren't you registered for the tournament smh

Swire with ingots is a weird one

It's not not allowed

[sly harness]

I am building new operators

[inland elbow]

But it's kinda considered a poopoo last resort

[sly harness]

Will register in the next week or something like that

[inland elbow]

Like people tried it for gardener and big sad lock

[gaunt bay]

That sounds fair

I mean the spirit of relicless is just to find consistent solutions

So i think by that metric it depends on what floor it is

And the IS

I think by that metric Lamp relics is5 is more reasonable than 13 six star operator clear

[sly harness]

Nope, I will post the ISC tournament runs maybe I will stream something in ISC vc but last time I tried it my game was quite laggy

[gaunt bay]

The latter technically follows relicless rules but the former is more inline with the spirit of it

[nocturne cape]

Dont think they know what this means

Average

[gaunt bay]

💀

[inland elbow]

Yeah in the end I think relicless has become its own category despite the original intent being basically consistently replicable lowroll stage clears

[severe oasis]

do you think they know anything at all

[nocturne cape]

i need to visit my therapist tomorrow at this rate

[sly harness]

Now that I think about it Titi will be fun in this game mode

[faint rampart]

🐳 🧑‍✈️

[inland elbow]

But I do think only lamp relic clears would be neat

[gaunt bay]

:ya:

[nocturne cape]

yep f3 full lamp relic clear

[arctic panther]

aak 2

[past garden]

Is Exu S3 good for any maps/strats? in IS6?

[severe oasis]

if i join isc tournament should i join d15 or d10

[nocturne cape]

or better

a sniper medic f5 stage with full lamp relics plus hoe

[past garden]

I haven't used her S3 much but it seems like it has potential

[sly harness]

I can't e2 SA
My Prama is mod2
Hoshi mod1

[gaunt bay]

Would be interesting to know what the real dharma sermon necessary op count would be

[nocturne cape]

wtf brokee

[inland elbow]

S3 gets used quite a bit

[sly harness]

But only if you really know what you are doing

(or with - redeplyment time, you can spam her thingy)

Perma Hoshi S3

[gaunt bay]

I saw that one relicless clear of elusive merc with exu hoshi2 sa2

Very interesting

[faint rampart]

gotta find you a cn whel acc

endless potential

[severe oasis]

the elusive merc when i make her no longer elusive

[sly harness]

But a CN account would probably lag a lot with shitty internet

[nocturne cape]

its alright

[crystal niche]

wth

[nocturne cape]

as long as you dont play icebreaker

[crystal niche]

was it em?

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

now you're just demanding for a sugardadi 🤧

[sly harness]

Current Elusive normal is Wang + Ela

[severe oasis]

once i lost elusive merc with triple flinger and chalice

[crystal niche]

ela 🥀

[quick steppe]

dont be hating

ela so goated

[crystal niche]

who's hating

[nocturne cape]

how broken are traps

[crystal niche]

[quick steppe]

trapmasterknights clear too

[severe oasis]

ela is genuinely the goat specialist actually timeless unit

[sly harness]

Specialist truly a special class

[inland elbow]

specially favored

[gaunt bay]

Im pretty sure it was emer

[severe oasis]

specialists when their specialty is dropping 50 billion nuclear bombs on the enemy

[gaunt bay]

damn

[inland elbow]

nah wang ela is elusive normal

[past garden]

I mean between Ela and Exu2

[inland elbow]

hoshi salt exu is elusive em

[gaunt bay]

Yea

[sly harness]

I will repeat myself most likely but I want to see d18 relicless IS6

I mean it will probably come down to only f4 and f5 stages but still

[severe oasis]

oh yeah whats relicless izumik record does wang lower it

[solar tree]

is raidan s2 or s3 used for this boss?

[sly harness]

S2

[inland elbow]

4 ops

[sly harness]

Place her next to him and the fishes on him

Place her as fast as possible and activate a skill before she gets a Talisman

[errant siren]

S2 would be good to lanehold, but they cannot target the boss.

[solar tree]

[gaunt bay]

Izumik known gardener tier stage

[sly harness]

If you have DP or SP debuff this won't work

[inland elbow]

it was like trag cliffheart ela weedy

[severe oasis]

oh wang doesnt do anything huh

[inland elbow]

I think it came out before wang, wang is good on izumik but ela kinda nasty on the sticks

[inland elbow]

gardener is a 3 op now I think lmao

but yeah is3 d18 records are always deceptively low op because of how the stages are designed I think

[severe oasis]

is sent 5

[inland elbow]

turns out big stats don't matter as much when cc is so powerful

I think sent is 5 yeah

but the record kinda became sloppy imo

I stopped keeping track of is4 records for the most part

obsolete in 6 months trust

[severe oasis]

d18 will release soon!

[nocturne cape]

i think theyll announce it during anni strem

sure

ly

[past garden]

Ugh, the worst part about going for ed2 is that it isn't guaranteed T_T

[prime mountain]

It basically is

if you path properly

[sly harness]

It is

[faint rampart]

worst part abt ed1 is you can lose

[past garden]

Haven't seen it =/

[sly harness]

You can't

[sly harness]

2 more nodes to check

[faint rampart]

oka skilled elitist :reallyMad:

[prime mountain]

0 turmoil cleared this has to be early yeah?

you're fine

[sly harness]

You are only ~13 Candles in you should have more left

[rich thorn]

So, ugh, chat, need help. I dont think I can do ed2a with this, any advice?

[past garden]

No, I just went into V. Normally I full clear those, but I spent a few candles shield stacking in the tavern and a couple on failing some turmoils I thought I could win

[sly harness]

Find ed2 first

[prime mountain]

So skill issue first cause you wasted candles! not the game's fault

[sly harness]

Then you can stack shields or whatever

But Turmoils usually have the highest priority

[nocturne cape]

done with this hellscape known as icebreaker game

i am free

[sly harness]

[gaunt bay]

Wall of turmoil

[faint rampart]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/#ending-2-explained

[sly harness]

Now you can start writing the guide for stronghold

[quick steppe]

^^^

[nocturne cape]

uhh

[sly harness]

[quick steppe]

better get to it

[nocturne cape]

ig its a fine time to start a rough draft

[rich thorn]

cant even use all limited ops

🥀

[nocturne cape]

we're a week away ya?

[quick steppe]

I think so

[nocturne cape]

its on the 28th iirc

[quick steppe]

operator recommendations very important

so people use the selector correctly

[faint rampart]

😢 bad vanguard spotted

[nocturne cape]

no mangopie we're not recommending people to dump their selector on stronghold

[quick steppe]

😢

[sly harness]

Yes they should go on the IS meta units

[nocturne cape]

but they can use it on passenger and eunectes for RA sureeeely

[quick steppe]

🤝

recommending passenger

[sly harness]

Eunectes is fine

Passenger does nothing in ra cc

[nocturne cape]

RA tho

ive heard that his upcoming ra mod is pretty nice

[rich thorn]

pepe too

[sly harness]

Is this guy from the future?

[nocturne cape]

wdym

he gets a RA mod on wang banner

[rich thorn]

with irene IS mod

[severe oasis]

waiting on reed burn delta and vulpis Y

[gaunt bay]

What is this slop 😭

[severe oasis]

limitedknights

[rich thorn]

damn

[gaunt bay]

Theres mon3tr

[rich thorn]

not all relics

[rich thorn]

not limited

[severe oasis]

fraudknights

[rich thorn]

trust me bro

she is somewhere here

[sly harness]

Oh nevermind I missread something and I thought you were talking about new RA mode (like in RA3) and as far as I know we don't know anything specific about it yet

[quick steppe]

how the scroll is gonna be looking

[past garden]

Lol, I found the ed2 as the literal last node... Hopefully I can kill the foot in the like 2-3 combats I have left. Should be fine. you DO have to reduce it to 50% before the final boss to get ed2 right?

[quick steppe]

ya

[nocturne cape]

not enough ops

[past garden]

Will it appear in dream lnd?

[quick steppe]

I stopped because I left the shop by accident

[sly harness]

Just make setting up to kill it your main goal when opening the stages. With good units you can easily kill it in 1 or 2 stages

[rich thorn]

I can get all, but thats lazy

[sly harness]

In Turmoils, in Bosky? Yes

[rich thorn]

poor leg

[past garden]

I don't think I'm gonna make it, urgh

[rich thorn]

it did 1 stomp

😭

[past garden]

I've never seen this stage before, this is BULLSHIT wtf?!

[sly harness]

Ingots

For free

[analog echo]

Is there a chance that the butterfly doesn't spawn?

[sly harness]

[analog echo]

Or am I blind

[prime mountain]

Its a decision node

its right there

You are blind

[sly harness]

Or they are using wiki

[analog echo]

Oh, lmao

[gaunt bay]

Wiki is bad ril

[analog echo]

I thought it was listed as legend

[sly harness]

or some other outdated source

[analog echo]

[sly harness]

2 months ago it was

Then we got the QoL

[analog echo]

Shows how frequently I play IS6

[gaunt bay]

Play more shrimply

[sly harness]

[cunning karma]

just Raidian S1 block one of those guys, and then you got plenty of time for the money

[sly harness]

stall

[rich thorn]

omg

@sly harness

😭

[prime mountain]

leakless or end run

!

[cunning karma]

I see the coin

[rich thorn]

gnosis with pram2 will nuke all

on the map

trust

[cunning karma]

some random relics will probably kill them all smh

[rich thorn]

ye, dp one

[past garden]

Which Leizi skill would be best to help on Ed2? S3 for the bouncy nuke?

[sly harness]

Fun

[past garden]

or Ente skill? I guess I could start trying to learn her too ;P

[rich thorn]

s3 should hit multiple leg parts?

[past garden]

On Leizi or Ente?

[sly harness]

S3 for hit count and better cycling with the boss

[rich thorn]

on leizi2

[sly harness]

Ente S3 for boss killing and right lane

S2 for hit count

Hit count is needed if you want to clear the left lane

[past garden]

I might need to... I only have like 25 health

[sly harness]

17 is the left lane

You can just leak

[past garden]

Ah, easy enough

I do like how much easier Ed2 is than Ed1 haha, kinda funny. Well, at least the boss stage. It's annoying to trigger it

[rich thorn]

idk, ed1 is pretty easy

from hardest to easiest its like
ed2>ed1a>ed2a>ed1

[past garden]

Yeah, I suppose it's not too bad with Trag stall... But it's harder outside of that kind of strat

[tender chasm]

Ty sir, i got the stir fry

[rich thorn]

if we not talking about -17 strat

[solar tree]

is this decent at all?

[boreal shore]

leizi s3 so her lightning hit every bit of the leg

[prime mountain]

I am so fucked

+30% apparition atk 💀

This was such a horrible run icl

But even purestream with 2500 def didnt live

like what

[sly harness]

You have like 0 redeplyment time you surely can live...

[prime mountain]

Oh yes spam redeploy WHO

[sly harness]

Hoshi S3 to survive stops

[prime mountain]

I have 0 damage

Like

My only atk buffs are survivor contract (it landed on purestream) and 60% hoshi atk

[crystal niche]

wow look at that myrtle lol

death animation

[solar tree]

@prime mountain wat do you tinks?

[sly harness]

I need to see those collectibles wtf

[prime mountain]

45 relics btw

[sly harness]

It sounds like forcing relicless

[prime mountain]

It was so ass

Oh yeah sorry I had blademace

😭

Good greed run but just could not survive to anything

[sly harness]

https://youtu.be/JYBoqJPoJ10?is=mOrmpIeyPVKTvxNr

Here is what 0 damage looks like

[prime mountain]

Yeah but you had swire

(I drafted like ass icl)

[crystal niche]

is 20-30 relic average on is4 and below good

[prime mountain]

But blademace + instrument + 600 def coin and my units still dying was huh

what the fuck

[sly harness]

Ye but you could perma stall

[prime mountain]

I couldnt even kill the basic mobs 💀

My team was ass

[rich thorn]

looks like a good idea to jump ed2a unprepared with 1 lp

🚬

[quick steppe]

nah the is5 relic count mogs this

[prime mountain]

I didnt even make it there man...

How would I even clear the hitcount enemies

[rich thorn]

trag s2

raidian s2

gnosis s2

[prime mountain]

I had

none of those except raidian s2

she doesnt solo them

As I said the draft was horrible

[rich thorn]

pram2 s1

[gaunt bay]

Did u exploed

[rich thorn]

yes he did

[prime mountain]

This is the first run post dlc I exploded, actually insane run

[sly harness]

Leizi

[steel relic]

Where is Myrtle’s taiko no tatsujin outfit

[prime mountain]

Ah thats why I blew up

damn

no myrtle skin 🥀

[sly harness]

Greyy, Hool

[prime mountain]

Temp hool

[past garden]

Alright, S2M3 on Raid, let's go

[prime mountain]

greyy desperation pick for hitcount right before boss

Also I havent seen regain lp encounter in the last like 4 runs

[rich thorn]

oh yes, wis s2

[prime mountain]

this is so cursed

[rich thorn]

works too

[sly harness]

I think Hool + Hoshi to melt the boss

Trust

[past garden]

Now just need to do another Ed2 with Tianshi Bureau and it'll be onto the next milestone.

[sly harness]

Cancel Hoshi to survive

And the blowpipes stall

[prime mountain]

I expected my team to live like wtf

5k hp 1300 def raidian

still dies

[rich thorn]

yep

stomps are pretty heavy

🫃

[sly harness]

On skill 1?

[prime mountain]

S2 cause I wanted to use it to stall, didnt expect it would hurt that bad tought I would be fine defensively

[rich thorn]

s2 is bad for stall here

[sly harness]

Just calc it

[prime mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141913662408359947/1441089969341992960/140392055381479015.gif

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347205621811777760/1402499166764273704/op_16184737_17531722655127511055853970004743.gif

<@&586570970345635868>

omg robux

in all chats

[steel relic]

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141913662408359947/1441089969341992960/140392055381479015.gif

[gaunt bay]

So much robux

[crystal niche]

who tf is this

[gaunt bay]

?? Wtf

Furrilo 100% winrate dalao?

[prime mountain]

Well sample size is like

7 maybe 8 runs

ed4 is so easy 🥀

[gaunt bay]

Do u count restarts

What squad do you even play

[prime mountain]

Nah but I havent even done that many, most were just like "I started this run yesterday and forgot wtf my idea was"

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/la-manchaland-don-quixote-don-quixote-lcb-la-manchaland-limbus-company-gif-5416266550369442472

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141913662408359947/1446024048156082308/15FVRFMF7M7HR0QCCJ.gif

[prime mountain]

Support squad we highroll in here

[gaunt bay]

Damn

Furrilo dalao

I fell off im afraid

[cunning karma]

dalao

[crystal niche]

yall just making me more confused

[gaunt bay]

As if i was ever on

[crystal niche]

[gaunt bay]

But

I fell giga off

[prime mountain]

Quick, spam more memes

Stagger this guy

[crystal niche]

[gaunt bay]

https://tenor.com/view/jaime384-gif-3720188123894271924

[crystal niche]

ok well i know that

but who tf was before

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-ryoshu-rien-ryoshu-slash-ryoshu-sword-gif-14224767653674957530

[gaunt bay]

https://tenor.com/view/lei-heng-limbus-unbreakable-gif-18161648564677173178

[rich thorn]

who cares, headcliff finally used his hair coupons

[gaunt bay]

Okay enough slopposting in my beloved isstation

[faint rampart]

wtf hivemind

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[rich thorn]

its not yours, its our #is-station

[quick steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238896972899946507/1385721521145774232/caption.gif

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-canto-8-lei-heng-jia-qiu-gif-5171538333246456534

[gaunt bay]

The blue namers boutta gank ur ass

[solar tree]

would you take this

[prime mountain]

Yeah she's really solid

get sp on hit, win.

[rich thorn]

yes, good op

[desert brook]

how do u guys finish is runs under 1 hour mine are always like 1.5-2h and i feel slow af

[prime mountain]

Simply better...

But really a lot of decisions become automatic with time

[gaunt bay]

Ya

U just know stuff

[desert brook]

i see

[gaunt bay]

Furrilo do u wanna icebreakers with me later

[faint rampart]

ed4 run isnt even under 1...unless you're just lowrolling i guess

[queen mauve]

What skill should I mastery on primanix alter considering that I’m solely using her for IS6?

[gaunt bay]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGLKZwqaEAAKEKh.gif

[desert brook]

it doesnt feel like im spending much time making decisions but maybe its just all adding up

[prime mountain]

When's later? Imma be busy for the next like 2 hours in a bit

[gaunt bay]

Me too

I mean in like

6 hours

Or so

[prime mountain]

Oh ya for sure

[sly harness]

In IS6? I don't, my are 2-3h long

[sly harness]

S2 and S3. S1 is used too but masteries don't help with SP so you can skip them

[prime mountain]

why this stage so balls to raidian solo

The yellow drone just couldnt fucking die

[sly harness]

[past garden]

Wow, that is some ASS pathing, wtf

[sly harness]

Isn't the variant with bait easy?

[gaunt bay]

Or ur r*dian drafter

[prime mountain]

There's still some timing involved which I always manage to fuck up somehow

[crystal niche]

hoshi? I'm guessing she's e1 but she could bait no?

[sly harness]

To expensive

[prime mountain]

I somehow messed up bait timing and raidian got targeted instead of one of her drones

[sly harness]

You need 40 DP for device

[crystal niche]

oh yea me forgor

[gaunt bay]

I keep forgetting the device exists cuz its so expensive

[prime mountain]

wait is it even doable with +4p hour

[gaunt bay]

(I am exu slopper pls understand)

[sly harness]

is the timeing really problematic?

[prime mountain]

Somehow it was yeah

Like I had a drone down and raidian still got targeted

[sly harness]

should be

[sly harness]

Did you pause deployed them?

[prime mountain]

Should I?

[sly harness]

no

[prime mountain]

I meant it went amiya > she gets bomb > raidian > drone > other drone

the other drone didnt get down in time

[paper notch]

you cant pause deploy on same frame

cuz raidian gets targetted regardless

is it easier to do this on CN cuz you kinda just place shit while it's paused and the last one deployed gets targetted?

[rich thorn]

oh yes, they have update on that

[queen mauve]

like for clearing the hit count mobs? I only have resources to upgrade one skill

[sly harness]

For stuff like ed1, Mount and Sea and even Feng Shui you will use S1

So you don't need to masteries on it

S2 can also be an option for hit count if you can set it up (but still in places like ed2 and Mount and Sea, S1 will be better)

[queen mauve]

ohhh okie thanks

[sly harness]

I think this still isn't fixed

Like there is an interaction that if you place stuff in the same "enemy target search cycle" (it is like 3 frames long), the first deployed unit in the given cycle will be attacked

And idk whether there were some changes to that

[paper notch]

PC client on bilibili server

idk if either of those change how it works

but ye

on EN rn i have to frame skip a tiny bit after raidian is deployed then place summon

[prime mountain]

Summons get deployed first regardless no? what would matter is the follow up attack

[paper notch]

from my quick testing, i had to frame skip 2 times after raidian is deployed so that summon is targeted first

otherwise raidian took agro

[sly harness]

It looks like it was changed

Can some do this on en

Just for science

[sly harness]

Ye you need to go to another cycle

And iirc cycle statrst with empty bar of DP

[split void]

Is this trait and talent like
Just happen once every battle ?

[sly harness]

So you need to wait for it to change 3 times to reach the next cycle

(3 farmers)

Btw that is why the Raidian solo of Breakthrough A places her 2 changes (2 frames) of DP bar after new DP and her summon 1 change (1 frame) later

I can't wait to pause deploy on mobile

[steel relic]

It sounds like the trait is every enemy and the talent is once per battle

[nocturne cape]

omg shileds is playing icebreaker solo mode

[paper notch]

icebreaker solo the way god intended

[errant siren]

omg that is so broken.

[paper notch]

it's just a bit weird having somewhat fundemental game mechanics be different on the 2 severs

[sly harness]

Together with the introduction of in-game pause deploy they changed (tbh fixed) it most likely

[split void]

The trait wording is confusing or I just bad at eng Idk
But "the 1st time each"

[outer cliff]

Isnt it reaches the tile and not enters the blue box

i assumed the specific wording was to stop ppl from doing shift shenanigans to repeatedly move the enemy off and onto the edge of the blue box or something

[split void]

Well. I just want to understand how exactly they work here

Maybe drafting her could be fun. Now we have some caster relic

[outer cliff]

prammy says hi

[split void]

Been using her here and there. Tbh . the +2 sp on hit I don't think it is good on her

[earnest shuttle]

Is there a specific number of doubt and turmoils nodes in f6 bosky ?

[earnest shuttle]

hmm 12 doubts, thanks

and the encounter are completely random ?
cus I havent seen the stamp encounter at all so I was hoping to grab one in f6

[languid patio]

Proof that I slapped Wang almost 10-11 hours ago

[split void]

The last time I bring 5 candles from F5 to go all in bosky s6. Then open all scouts node and let all the op there
Then I realize I didn't have enough squad size

[earnest shuttle]

[languid patio]

The SA Siblings really carried tbh

[earnest shuttle]

I triggered both ed2 and 4 relic in f5 so I didnt bring any extra candles from f5 bosky

[split void]

Yeah. Maybe there is no need

Bring them or not should depend on what you have. What can you get at F5 bosky,

[cunning karma]

CN can now deploy on pause so hg changed something about it

[split void]

my 1st ed4 clear I thought I screw up cause not bring F5 candles but turn out pretty well

[cunning karma]

but CN people said that in auto the enemy still hit the one you deploy first, and the reason seems to be that auto proxy deploy your ops in reverse order when you deploy on pause

[past garden]

How do I use the coin to refresh a node?

[steel relic]

You hit the refresh button

It’s in the same place as is5

[past garden]

I already left but I couldn't see it anywhere

[lost flicker]

hello is gang

I just realized I've never seen this stage so uhhhh where are enemies headed

[sly harness]

You can get the Stamp Collector, they are random but from the standard Bosky pool of encounters

[sly harness]

From left to right

The ones from corners will circle in the middle

You can check the exact pathing on tomimi

[slate hull]

there is a guy who does a spin move that can wipe your entire squad, that is the only scary part of this map

[sly harness]

You can get anything important from f5 Bosky? Like you clear the important stuff usually on f3

[past garden]

Tavern stacking?

[sly harness]

In my last run I even conserved f4 Candles for the total of extra 10

[sly harness]

Why? Where will you need them?

[past garden]

Why not?

[sly harness]

I mean I guess LPs to tread them in shop if you already have Wu-Shang are nice

[sly harness]

Because candles in ed4 Bosky are expensive and you can save resources for an f6 Shop

Like this

[sly harness]

He doesn't deal that much damage. Wall breakers are more problematic because they actually have damage. Or the 3 block guys in the last wave

[sly harness]

You can't use it in the Bosky btw. Only in the normal map

[past garden]

I know

That's hwere I was

[cunning karma]

which coin

the scout/bosky/shop coin can only be used once

also some nodes cannot be refreshed such as pathfinder

[sly harness]

And Wish Fulfiled at the end of f2 (not sure about other)

[past garden]

How come Ente's S2 sometimes seems to target summons and other times not?

Are both of Raidian's mods IS6 specific?

Hmmm, guess I don't care as much about those then. M9 is good enough for now, I can be lazy about getting mods ;P

Almost more want the Module pack at the end than more Raidian progression...

Oh crap, IS5 too, I apparently played that one not at all also, yeesh

That's a lot of data blocks... But also a LOT of time

[arctic panther]

and one of them is detrimental to raidian 90% of the time

[past garden]

Hah, seems like poor design

What are key picks when going for ending 3? The guide mentions self-sufficient lane holders that can hit air? Who even qualifies for that anymore? Sakiko isn't self sufficient. Thorns is kinda wimpy these days, Ulp/etc can't hit air, the liberators have too much downtime... What do?

[inland elbow]

liberators are fine

hoshi is great

[fickle jungle]

Thorns in is....

[gaunt bay]

Thorns :icant:

So piss

[slate hull]

yeah, you don't really bring afk ops in here

[gaunt bay]

Bro struggles to gen content stats these days

[slate hull]

this man takes so long to get s3 going and then doesn't even do that much damage anyway

[past garden]

Hoshi can hit air?

[inland elbow]

alter yes

[past garden]

Huh

[sly harness]

With her real skill that is

[past garden]

Which is... S2? ;P

[sly harness]

S2 is a hit count solution

[gaunt bay]

Bro thinks s2 is her real skill

[past garden]

Can her S2 end up with uptime issues as a hitcount solution if it just happens to be mistimed, sinc eyou have no control over that?

[sly harness]

Kinda

But you will take it anyway for stages like Feng Shui or Exemplary Service if you don't have anything better

[past garden]

Yeah, fair enough

[sly harness]

It is far from being an ultimate solution to that bit usually copable

[past garden]

I've coped on Trag before as a hitcount solution, so...

[sly harness]

(not really in Beyond Mount and Sea, will need uptime help for normal ed2 left and most likely will be lacking in ed2a)

[low vortex]

If you're playing low diff the bar is very low and Hoshi2 S2 looks like an overall better skill for the unitiated because of relatively high up time

S3 is way stronger but does need some stage knowledge

[sly harness]

Kinda true... But for Bosky that can be the most problematic part you will use S3 all the time

[past garden]

Is S1 ever useful?

[prime mountain]

There's very niche reflect dmg uses outside of IS but none that I know of in it

[sly harness]

Who would want some reflect damage if you have S3 with 200k total damage

[past garden]

How do you do the variant of this with the dude that just binds everyone forever?

I mean, when you only have like, 2 or 3 candle ops, later on I've done it no problem, but early it seems impossible

[prime mountain]

The only strat I know is entel s2 + leizi

Cause leizi just wont get shot

entel s2 clears then you can leizi and sweep

[past garden]

Ick... Good to know

That's a lot of guard vouchers... I sometimes don't see that many haha

[prime mountain]

Holy ingots

[cunning karma]

If you have exu or some other good ranged damage you can just block that guy with Raidian S1 first, and after you clear other stuff just let that guy walk to the right and kill it

[sly harness]

Raidian S1 stall him and break the middle tower

[past garden]

Wait, wtf, why did SA2's S3 swap the cost of someone besides Hoshi, who was the further right? That... seems weird.

[cunning karma]

guard/caster/sniper has higher priority

[past garden]

Ooooohhh, right duh

[nocturne cape]

Hoshi alt s3 on the upper middle tile

[low vortex]

hi cube

[nocturne cape]

She will kill everyone except for the guy shooting binds

Just retreat hoshi and then put a raidian s2 fish pointing down afterward

Ggez

No timing that you need to know about because hoshi will not die

Hi light

[prime mountain]

This is what skipping every fight on f5 looks like 😭

I may have miscalculated

We get the special ed1 + foot + alt!

[rich thorn]

damn, not ed2 with bloodshed/bulwark/curio

[prime mountain]

Wouldve been so free...

[rich thorn]

yes

so free

not even die from stomps

[past garden]

I love how going into the dream realm returns scouts

[rich thorn]

ok, time to finish this shi

daaamn

2 fps

[sly harness]

Wrong skill

Prama S1 stage

[rich thorn]

with 500 relics who cares

statuegists was dead after 1st deploy

[sly harness]

But being principled....

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

Building bad habits!!!

[rich thorn]

so uh

what to explore?

[past garden]

Turmoils, obv

[prime mountain]

to get the relics he doesnt yet have!

finish the collection

Also maybe legend nodes

[past garden]

Are there any good defender grabs after Hoshi2 if it keeps throwing vouchers at you for them?

[prime mountain]

Shu isnt terrible

if you have infinite hope

[grizzled nexus]

Pramanix frozen blue box can only block 3 enemies. What happen if the birthed enemies goes there?

[prime mountain]

he leaks

oh no -100 of his 300 life points...

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603595771287437322/1437312860077162657/eef2f6a5b8d27c3db973dcb3c2b0eda511145481.gif

[rich thorn]

its almost finished btw

dont have stamps

and four season brush and plate

🚬

[ember hemlock]

omg hadiya e2 free trial

[terse bough]

i can't do this if everyone already a candle guest right

[rich thorn]

nah, you still can

its just, not make them candleguests

[terse bough]

does it count for the relic

[ember hemlock]

there's just no point

[rich thorn]

doesnt counts

[terse bough]

jk

kk

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

man just won

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

now just need to +150 relics

[sly harness]

Btw I pick Scout here

For Coupons

[rich thorn]

wtf

[sly harness]

I don't need ASPD

But I need coupons

[rich thorn]

cuz last one was jadestone

[cunning karma]

scout coin is good

Just find stove later 🫃

imagine if this is flower squad

[rich thorn]

damn, 4diff without mimics

[sly harness]

(also the Bal coin)

[rich thorn]

damn highroller

[analog echo]

What damage type does the sui foot do?

Is it true?

[sly harness]

Phys

[prime mountain]

Lukas you want this?

[sly harness]

Looks okay. But still needs Wu-Shang Shuttle and Cocoon to mean anything

[prime mountain]

I have cocoon but no shuttle yet

😭

shuttle aint real

[west quarry]

isnt that enough to manually refresh shops anyway

if you already have a few hundred ingots

[analog echo]

Let's say I have only one shot at getting the foot to 50% before reaching the end of F5

[cunning karma]

iirc you can only refresh for like 3 or 4 times without shuttle

[analog echo]

Normal mode; what the play here?

I'm a complete noob with ED2 mechs

[terse bough]

how much life u need to ignore left side on dragons paw boss again

[analog echo]

someone said 17 earlier

[rich thorn]

🫃

looks like we do it again

[terse bough]

i should be fine then

[rich thorn]

yes your fine

[sly harness]

28 into f3

Nice roll

[analog echo]

do summons count for the foot targetting?

[prime mountain]

yesn't

Its complicated, raidian ones do

[analog echo]

That's all I needed to hear lol

[prime mountain]

Stuff like beanstalk crabs count for the unit amount but cant be targeted alone

[analog echo]

I know wis'adel's do

learnt the hard way

[rich thorn]

ye

wis needs to retread em

[prime mountain]

They do only because wishadel is near them I think? cause same rules as beanstalk crabs

[rich thorn]

if you want to use her vs foot

[past garden]

The guide says the first doubts you find should have some master planner option for ed3 but I don't see that?

On any of the 4 I've revealed?

[prime mountain]

You def just missed it

[rich thorn]

just enter all avaible and see

can leave em without using candle anyways

[prime mountain]

You're looking for this

[sly harness]

Where my Plan

[sly harness]

Nah...

[past garden]

Oh, I have that one, but there's no master planner option? I can flip the board, abide by the rules, or keep going for gambits

[prime mountain]

Top option > top again

These 2

[past garden]

Ohhh, I need more candleguests then ;P

[abstract willow]

I read Windscoot is a reccommended 4* guard for IS but I can't stand liberators. I'm weighing Arene vs Cutter and wondering which will have more/better uses.

[quick steppe]

they aren't chinese

literally unusable

[rich thorn]

hummus

[quick steppe]

just stick with windscoot and luoxiaohei

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

You dont even use them

they just sit there and be chinese

[analog echo]

I definitely made it harder than need be

[sly harness]

Windscoot needs e1 max for f1 with e1 Raidian

[analog echo]

stupid DP down tongbao with no vanguard

[gaunt bay]

Hi meowwilo

[prime mountain]

Hi kiwi!!!!! wanna icebreak 2gether ❤️

[rich thorn]

nah, fine, not even -17

[analog echo]

turns out pram is pretty good at defending that left side

[gaunt bay]

In a bit!!!

[rich thorn]

exu2 could be plased a lil bit higher

[analog echo]

up until she got retreated at 50%

[gaunt bay]

Furrilo how do i use pram on ed2 left

[prime mountain]

Prob s3 and just pray stuff dies 👍

[gaunt bay]

Wtf unhelpful

[rich thorn]

nah

s1 should be better

cuz spearheads shift

[prime mountain]

True also an option

But you would need someone else to kill them unless you have some good sp relics

[gaunt bay]

How do i get good at is6

[prime mountain]

Listen to what Lukas says 👍 worked for me!

[rich thorn]

just roll higher

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1493570306185367706/doctor_pramanix_and_pramanix_the_prerita_blue_archive_drawn_by_seseren__8a18e0dd24e834151e5c43ff41fc2dbb.gif

[gaunt bay]

Why isnt she coming home

I need her

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1481352262151438418/spicypram.gif

[rich thorn]

idk

I want 1 pot for her

for - dp cost

🥹

[gaunt bay]

Idc about pots bruh gimme the pram

[rich thorn]

💳

(not joking, I swiped for hoshi2)

[rich thorn]

Did you finished all stories for OP, farmed 1-7?

[gaunt bay]

I havent done OP Pulls yet

I will last day

If i have to

[sly harness]

Now I can clear confusion

[cunning karma]

how much HP does 10 rolls cost for non-flower

[past garden]

Can Tragodia make enemies fall into pits? I don't have a puller/pusher but this combat will give more rewards for pit kills

Oh nope, damn

[cunning karma]

Time to replicate this https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HuhrzjE9T/

<@&586570970345635868>

[carmine token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1307657791305027654/1478996047513653308/skadi_270p.gif

well i havent see porn bots here

its just mista bist

[cunning karma]

True, I'm tired of seeing a random dumbass taking photos of their screen

[gaunt bay]

Theyre all mr breast

Surely everyone knows about the scam by now

Who tf is falling for it

No way its profitable

[sly harness]

I still skipped it

[gaunt bay]

@prime mountain meow

Ice?

[sly harness]

Also I am like 5 collectibles behind

Because I missed 1 animal and couldn't take EM Duck and Yi

[prime mountain]

Ya check your dms

[cunning karma]

Another one

[gaunt bay]

Is it time to call a mod

[gaunt bay]

You cursed us you mf

[cunning karma]

They were here 10 mins ago

[sly harness]

Should be like 70

[past garden]

Man, what are other good strats to the special pathfinder Ed3 stage when the game refuses to give you ANY FUCKING GUARD RECRUITS

I won just by sheer force of having more health than I leaked haha

[west quarry]

Hoshi2 draft

[past garden]

I used Hoshi2, she didn't clear enough stuff to let me drop any ranged ops

[west quarry]

its a melee check stage

[past garden]

Well, I had Leizi but she was E1 so she did like nothing

[west quarry]

what floor are you taking clarity

[past garden]

I did the fight in IV Leizi is E2 NOW (got a guard recruit AFTER that fight), not shown here are all the supporter and medic and sniper and caster tokens I tossed because the game said fuck you no melee

[west quarry]

how do you not have e2 leizi

before f4

u clearly got a guard voucher to promote humus

[past garden]

I only saw ONE guard recruit, that's how. And saw no other avenue of upgrade. The only scout node I saw was before I got Leizi

[west quarry]

...?

[past garden]

Humus was a freebie from the shop, it was a "promote no hope" not a recruit

[west quarry]

1 guard voucher

from f1

to f4

[past garden]

Yes

[west quarry]

are you taking bosky combats?

[past garden]

Yes

[ember hemlock]

probably had low hope when he got it and no convenient pathfinder/bosky entrance node if conserved

[west quarry]

idk i barely conserve now

[ember hemlock]

yeah but you're like a d15 schizo player idk what y'all do

[past garden]

Hmmm, for some reason my Hoshi is immortal against the ed1 boss with no medic... Not sure what's going on there. Probably some combo of relics?

She does have 7.4k hp, 862 def, and 70 res I spose

Oh right, and dodge chance from a coin too I think

[west quarry]

are u still not sure whats going on

i have 53 relics at f5 boss and none of them are good

[past garden]

I mean... Usually Hoshi2 dies even with help, looking at my relics, I'm still not 100% sure why she had no issues, except for the high res, but i'm not even entirely sure how she got the high res

[sly harness]

Shop rob solution

94k DPH

[west quarry]

wut d hel

[past garden]

Wait, the guide says that the hp drain relic can kill your ops, but my Raidian isn't being retreated?

[west quarry]

wdym?

wdym not being retreated

is she being healed or what

[past garden]

Nope she's just chilling there at 80 hp

[west quarry]

the hp drain is over

its for 60 seconds

[severe oasis]

she probably had enough hp to just outlast the hp drain. its not perma

[west quarry]

she ewas probably healed by ps

[past garden]

Ohhhhh

[west quarry]

lukas im avging 50 relic pre f6 now

without shop

r u proud

[sly harness]

64 before f5 boss but I missed some stuff

[west quarry]

f2 pathfinder combat changed my life ! !

[severe oasis]

my avg per run is like 70-80 💀

[west quarry]

what squad

[sly harness]

I mean doesn't look bad

[severe oasis]

im a defsupp slopper

[sly harness]

Like this is around the average you will get without collectibles maxing

[west quarry]

i just got wushang

in f6 bosky

umazing

checks ingots mmmm 27

[severe oasis]

70-80?

[sly harness]

Ye

[severe oasis]

ic

[west quarry]

What

70-80 pre f6?

? ?

[severe oasis]

no the entire run

[sly harness]

No

[west quarry]

Oh

Ed4?

[low vortex]

eastern intelligence tells me 120+ consistently is possible with relic maxing

[severe oasis]

yeah ed4

[west quarry]

yeah

[severe oasis]

im gonna go back to doing 23 soon tho

[west quarry]

ill go back to 23 when i have units to be able to ban raidian exu

[severe oasis]

im waiting on my silveralt to be built!

[low vortex]

rose wake me up when EN IS5 tourney

[past garden]

Well, I cleared ending 3 first try, that wasn't so bad. Too bad it was only D8 tho haha

[severe oasis]

never happening sorry

[west quarry]

why didnt u do d10

[low vortex]

i sleep

[sly harness]

Sounds about right. Going above this will require Wu-Shang Shuttle and this is the rng part

[past garden]

Because I haven't unlocked D10 yet

I just now unlocked D9 ;P

[sly harness]

(or you just play Shadow Squad and restart it until you get it)

[past garden]

I also had 29 relics... I dunno what you're doing to have like 50-80 o_O

[severe oasis]

what exactly does relic maxing entail

what do u do differently

[west quarry]

cocoon

and buying out shops

[severe oasis]

ok thats what i thought tbh

[west quarry]

and also wu-shang shuttle

[sly harness]

• f6 shop
• knowing how to abuse coins
• all the small stuff en route
• ignoring stuff like Ingots for Chalice

[past garden]

What is cacoon and how do you get it? Can you force it or is it just luck?

[sly harness]

Support Squad

[west quarry]

its part luck part knowledge check

[sly harness]

Or knowledge of Plan node

[severe oasis]

i should start doing f6 shop because i lowkey just do it whenever i see it after f2

[west quarry]

unless u play support in that case u start with it

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/overview/tongbao-exchange-calculator/

[past garden]

Ok thanks, I hate it

[sly harness]

economy... the core of IS6

Maybe not that important right now but post dlc2 you will die without knowing it

[tender chasm]

How many layout there on shop robbing map

[sly harness]

2

[tender chasm]

Is6

[west quarry]

well not that they are doing 235

[sly harness]

f1-f3 and f4+

In average IS it looks like this

[tender chasm]

Because I'm totally surprised when map is different

[sly harness]

I think even d0 ed5 will be quite stas checky

[west quarry]

but failing outright without cocoon abuse?

damn

thats wild

[sly harness]

No but I am not talking about Cocoon

Just generally about scaling

(also d0 stats are fraud)

d12 worries can suffer a bit

[west quarry]

what abt d15

18*

but no egg

t1 or whatever its called

[sly harness]

you will need to scale

[west quarry]

so like 80 relics not enough

[sly harness]

d18 alone is a hard part with high base scaling

[west quarry]

red numbers

[quick steppe]

lovely relicgem

[west quarry]

not even tbh

7 stack stir fry, 6 stack drums, 2 stack bells

couldve been way better

[nocturne cape]

bro purposely left out sui flower

[west quarry]

oh

true

i forgot i got sui flower

well no i mean its not like i couldve gotten more sui flower stacks

[quick steppe]

delicious relicgem

[west quarry]

except if i made ines a candleguest

ig

[quick steppe]

many are asking why im kneeling in front of my screen

[sly harness]

Btw another thing about collectibles maxing, lower the amount of ops you bring to ed4

[west quarry]

cause u get collectibles from doubt?

i suppose so

[sly harness]

You waste a lot of candles (so other resources) for that and you can spend them in shops for collectibles and leave some squad for f6 shop rob

[inland elbow]

6 ops

[west quarry]

end of times

[inland elbow]

Do it with 4

[quick steppe]

genius!

[west quarry]

idt you need to cut into doubt for trade nodes tho

[sly harness]

I am playing the stupid feed all dragons, leak less, leave the Statuegeist open and alive and Block the boss with an 0/1 block count stuff

[west quarry]

since u can't even refill LP

well you can once depending on the legend

but that's iffy

[sly harness]

Like I usually will try to only buy Candles with Shields

And to clear everything within that

Spending 30 Ingots ones isn't that bad

And if you don't have Cocoon or the +2 Max HP per toss coin you can also use Coupons

But this would be the limit

Going further feels wasteful

And you can usually find all important nodes while clearing no more then 5 Doubts

[frozen perch]

question for IS6 when im using hoshi2 to block and kill boss right at entrance with haruka healing, is hoshi2 S2 more damage or S3 both M3 with mod3

[nocturne cape]

just use S2 for extra bit of survival

[odd rose]

i don't like this boss

[inland elbow]

Sakikos fault

[nocturne cape]

Hes just hating

[inland elbow]

Someone can be a hater and be right

[quick steppe]

or they could be wrong 😊

truly it's the blueprint squad fault

[inland elbow]

I don't think I'm wrong here though

[quick steppe]

as we know tree squad would have rolled it

👀

[inland elbow]

I'm the most correct person I know

Fr though, probably try learning how to do a lamp strat

[nocturne cape]

This is handmixing so yeah

[gaunt bay]

I dont think saiki is the problem in this comp

🥹

[nocturne cape]

Harukas fault

These idol girls

Smh

[remote badger]

the distinct smell of handmixer

[gaunt bay]

meow

[remote badger]

meow

[quick steppe]

truly we need to stop the entertainment industry