is-station

[nocturne cape]

oh

you can ask @lost zodiac but i dont think theres any plan to update that doc

[rich thorn]

🥀

He even saved space for flower

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

...there's hope

[nocturne cape]

if you are willing to translate that one longer flower squad video im sure we can host that on the site

from bilibili

[rich thorn]

I know what vid

[nocturne cape]

make sure to ask for permission first

[rich thorn]

Max what I can do with that longass vid is use lula and make big wall of text

[sly harness]

Just post it every time someone asks

[gray pulsar]

so what are the dlc2 squads of choice

[rich thorn]

True

🫃

[rich thorn]

Tourist, tiangshi, new agent

[faint rampart]

wait you can read that language

[gray pulsar]

i figured tourist and tianshi were gonna make it

wtf is new agent

havent been following cn for a while

[rich thorn]

No, I can use screen capt program with deepl translator

[coral lynx]

How does the item Silence in IS affect the units that have unlimited duration skill?

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1483023372039356427/13OVP3E6BSBOCJ9ZXT3V.gif

[nocturne cape]

we refer to it as Proxy Squad before official TL

basically a mega doodle

[gray pulsar]

whats the chinese

actually imma just go prts

[grave vine]

d16 MoM krooster start with ending 4 I should be withdrawing 2 ingot for machination + flashing sword right?

[gray pulsar]

mega doodle...

[sly harness]

Every non combat node will have an extra random option from some pool. With some of them being incredibly strong

[gray pulsar]

damn

[rich thorn]

Imagine, exchange all tongbaos in box for flower/ risk one

[nocturne cape]

代理人分队

[sly harness]

Isn't this also just a normal option in just a Plan and not something specific to that squad?

[nocturne cape]

its not guaranteed

well its not guaranteed in proxy squad either but

[rich thorn]

Idk, but saw people mention this squad with it

[nocturne cape]

but yes it is a random effect you can roll into

either -5LP for a full coffer of risk or all your ingots for a full coffer of flowers

[sly harness]

Also I only recently learned that you can upgrade coins (?) what

[nocturne cape]

as in

upgrading the coin to a superior version

or enchanting it

[sly harness]

Kinda both are new discoveries for me

[cunning karma]

upgrade the 2000 def coin to another 2000 def coin

[sly harness]

For some reason I haven't heard much about those options earlier

[nocturne cape]

you didnt know you can upgrade the refresh coin?

😮

[sly harness]

No

[rich thorn]

Normal one?

[sly harness]

I thought about something else

[rich thorn]

Or any

[nocturne cape]

well

all they did in expansion 2 is adding an option in plan for you to enchant your tongbaos with some additional effects

you can enchant up to 3 times

[sly harness]

Like I think mangopies was saying something about getting 120 Ingots from +30 Ingots coins

[cunning karma]

You mean enchant it so that they return a enchanted version to you that triggers the +30 again?

[nocturne cape]

yes

[grave vine]

any suggestion?

[nocturne cape]

even better, you can reuse your refresh coins

they come back as a new coin

so you can refresh another bosky/shop/scout

but you can only do it once

you have one chance to enchant up to 3 coins

afterward the option's gone

[sly harness]

dlc2

[grave vine]

cube I died very hard yesterday to the emer water fire union

[nocturne cape]

🥹

rip

[empty gulch]

damn

dlc 2 when???

[grave vine]

I hope this run will be good

I have auto skill rejection + early mizuki

[sly harness]

In like 2 months

[grave vine]

I should be buying machination for the light recovery right? or d16+ works differently?

[empty gulch]

too long to wait

[gaunt bay]

I need her so bad 🥺

[past garden]

The left side on this one can be completley ignored right?

[rich thorn]

@sly harness free to toss in anybody who asks about good squads here

[gusty aurora]

yeah

the ying and yang lookin things will take care of themselves

[coral lynx]

Does this Silence item give unli duration atk % to the likes of Logos s1 and Pram alter s2?

[sly harness]

Yes, btw tech here for solo Raidian is wait 80 seconds to turn them all off and place Raidian

Also killing them gives you 4 Ingots and Duck can spawn on the left

[gaunt bay]

Its crazy how much easier silverash makes killing duck/shield guy

[sly harness]

Lets teach looping

[gusty aurora]

the left side is only a must take care of if you're doing ending 4 or you need money really bad

[sly harness]

1. -4 LPs isn't that problematic and you are almost always on 1 LP anyway
2. You always need money

[gusty aurora]

1- sometimes you don't want to lose even one
2- you're pretty much right

[rich thorn]

most asked questions in #is-station

1. what is 25%
2. who is / is the X operator good for IS X
3. what squad is strong in IS X
4. what is ling loop

[gusty aurora]

strange isn't it ?

can't we just pin up an awnser to it so there won't be much people who ask it ?

[prime mountain]

25% WHAT?????

[steel relic]

imagine

reading the pins before asking a question

[rich thorn]

yea

imagine, reading pins

🚬

[rich thorn]

[gusty aurora]

who the hell reads in EN aside from that one guy who says he is able to read

[rich thorn]

you know what

[prime mountain]

no I dont know what

what is what?

[rich thorn]

tf

you dont know what 25% is?

damn

[prime mountain]

(I know is joke)

[gusty aurora]

1/4

[rich thorn]

(im joking too)

[prime mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1095768147937730680/flMrNZzbSv.gif

[gusty aurora]

u did not have to do me like that

[rich thorn]

hey guys, what 25% means?

[gusty aurora]

split it by 4 i guess

[desert brook]

ive been using salt to obliterate the dog

[rich thorn]

but who you split?

[gusty aurora]

the numbers duh

[rich thorn]

what numbers?

[gusty aurora]

the things

[rich thorn]

?????

no way, what things?

[gusty aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

the things and numbers

probobly 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 and 0

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[prime mountain]

The stranger things????

[gusty aurora]

yes stranger things

what is wrong with my limbus company why is it taking so long to load

[gaunt bay]

Serves you right for talking about l*mbus here

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-ryoshu-rien-ryoshu-slash-ryoshu-sword-gif-14224767653674957530

[arctic panther]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865546887285178379/1314185669433888798/RDT_20241205_011339317178913370246310.gif

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141913662408359947/1441089969341992960/140392055381479015.gif

[stoic ingot]

Leader squad f1 robbery start or special squad start on d4 ed1?

[gaunt bay]

f1 shop rob is dead

[prime mountain]

What kiwi said faster than me because he's goated

[gaunt bay]

long live relicslop

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-limbus-ego-yearning-mircalla-don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-13941366080871444448

[gaunt bay]

why do you keep calling me a he

[prime mountain]

I honestly do not know

I might be high half the time

is this what your brain looks like on IS

[gaunt bay]

[rich thorn]

just stop playing is5 and 6

return to monki is4

[prime mountain]

Is 234 even hard anymore in is4 with the units we have

[gaunt bay]

no

LMAO

[stoic ingot]

y

[prime mountain]

trag just soloes the whole game 🥀

[gaunt bay]

its actually unlosable

did u see that one screenshot

[rich thorn]

wanted to say is3, but its ass

🚬

[gaunt bay]

literally unlosable 😂

[prime mountain]

THE HUNTING SQUAD META! IT WAS FORETOLD!

[gaunt bay]

eh has been meta since exu release

[rich thorn]

hey

its a banned squad in tournaments

ofk its meta

[stoic ingot]

👀👀👀👀👀👀

[gaunt bay]

"tournaments" as if people still play is4 tourneys 😭

someone else explain bruh im too tired

[rich thorn]

I mean, it was way long op

even before is5 release

[gaunt bay]

it wasnt banned in sgl2

🚬

speccas was certainly stronger until exu release

[stoic ingot]

holy shibal do I just take special squad trag then

[gaunt bay]

the inability of eternal hunting to consistently clear early floors was a massive weakness

[rich thorn]

sorry, missthinkied with scientific one

[gaunt bay]

scientific has always been slop

🥀

[prime mountain]

Thats just cause we dont want 4 hour runs

[rich thorn]

@arctic panther

[rich thorn]

1.5 days run

[gaunt bay]

probably took a break inbetween

[rich thorn]

I really hope cuz man did a breaks

[gaunt bay]

I certainly wouldnt want to play relicless 2op for a full run straight

[rich thorn]

not a shit what mango showed in is6

[gaunt bay]

😭

[rich thorn]

with 0 ops 0 relics

for like, 5 days each?

[gaunt bay]

yeah but is6 you can actually reasonably tank shit

is4 isnt the same

you leak you die

[arctic panther]

id dodge

[gaunt bay]

im feeling sloppy time to do a is4 run

gotta see em new units in action

[late pecan]

EM March of the Dead into Manmade Carnival. Bruh Arknights

[prime mountain]

nah but you win these wtf is this highroll

[late pecan]

[prime mountain]

14 relics but he has old fan and lakebed 😭

[late pecan]

Exu2 start with SpecCast has led me to this, first time doing it lol

[rich thorn]

exu2 is pretty comfortable start on e1

for scientific

🚬

[prime mountain]

This is not how its supposed to go...

oops all flowers

[rich thorn]

surely you will find calendar later

[sly harness]

e1 start when f2 Routeweave Net into EM Shady Frozen Sea

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

what

This can be good????

?????

is she goated

what the fuck I rolled it 3 times in a row

holy coupon value

[severe oasis]

kiwi its so funny and so sad at the same time

this gamemode needs d18 so badly

[rich thorn]

💀

[severe oasis]

is4 still the most fun IS for me but ive been playing it less and probably wont play it that much until it gets d18

[rich thorn]

man just wants his d18 sentinel

[severe oasis]

i do

[arctic panther]

i think its perfectly balanced considering the units we have available now

[severe oasis]

itll be peak trust me

[gaunt bay]

OMG ROSE

[rich thorn]

peak to explode

[gaunt bay]

meow!

[severe oasis]

no they need to make it possible to lose

[rich thorn]

[arctic panther]

but losing bad

[severe oasis]

winning all the time too boring

[rich thorn]

then take a pause

[severe oasis]

thats why i play is6 i suck at it and lose all the time

[rich thorn]

and play something else

🚬

[prime mountain]

Bro is channeling his chinese sts2 player!!!

[severe oasis]

get your kitty

[gaunt bay]

she wont come homeeeee

im at 173

[rich thorn]

someone wants d18

[gaunt bay]

[rich thorn]

on is4

and here is me, already tired from f4-5 exploding in is5

[severe oasis]

is7 release will come with is4 d18 🙏

[rich thorn]

😭

[rich thorn]

only after ra3

[severe oasis]

and is7 will also be peak and not relicslop 🙏

[arctic panther]

instead it will be lpslop

490 lp on a normal run

[rich thorn]

just stack tons of lp

[severe oasis]

i hope they keep the lp shop actually

[rich thorn]

and leak all

[arctic panther]

midbosses take more lp than furnacemiya

[prime mountain]

Keep it and just get rid of shields

and its good game design

[severe oasis]

truth

[prime mountain]

wtf are shields

[rich thorn]

they cant

big amiya insta kills you

[arctic panther]

and ending bosses straight up kill you if they leak!

[rich thorn]

on map3

[severe oasis]

they shouldve removed shields in is5

[rich thorn]

🚬

[severe oasis]

play leakless always

or explode

[arctic panther]

oh its not actually -999?

[severe oasis]

yeah apparently you just lose if she enters

[arctic panther]

oh

[rich thorn]

dude, thats unreal

with minimiya

[severe oasis]

yep no kings until u kill it

[prime mountain]

Ho'ol mod stonks going up!

[severe oasis]

TRUE

OMG

[rich thorn]

btw

maybe you noticed

both is5 and is6 not punish you for leaking

like is4 and 3

[severe oasis]

bring back punishment for skill issue

[prime mountain]

Gnosis mod classic

[rich thorn]

but is4 foldatars are peak

tongbaos are peak

[nocturne cape]

lamp of wishes is peak

[prime mountain]

Can we ban cube

[nocturne cape]

unfortunately you are not a mod

[fickle jungle]

withdraw 999 is better smh

[nocturne cape]

can try to apply next time

[severe oasis]

no cube

[rich thorn]

lamp of wishes was an error
and then is6 dlc2

with return of kings slop and hands

[trail spear]

whats the comp for exp 1 new ending is6

[faint rampart]

you mean relicles—

[rich thorn]

only know about trag s1 + cheetos

if relicless

[cunning karma]

Check the Raidian progression guide in pins

[gaunt bay]

Shields are fine

Theyre just too abundant

Make it like is4

Damn isnt it crazy how everything always goes back to “make it like is4”

Peak lifeform gamemode

[odd rose]

How do people get hundred of items in is5?

[gaunt bay]

Talons

[rich thorn]

because foldatars was peak

[odd rose]

So no ingot?

[prime mountain]

Shop is only high relic count if you get -50% discount relic, otherwise its more quality relic

[rich thorn]

still random, but can change nodes what you dont want

or buff existing ones

[odd rose]

Is it a good idea to use lamp to get king relics then change to talons?

Trying to do ed4 but failing hard

[prime mountain]

Its optimal if you can get it, late lost and found isnt entirely guaranteed

[prime mountain]

What comp are you running rn?

[odd rose]

Wdym by comp?

[prime mountain]

I'd advise against talons shop (I main talons shop)

[prime mountain]

Squad? Lamp? talons?

[odd rose]

I was running lamp with blueprint

Tried lamp ingot but i did way worse

[prime mountain]

Lamp blueprint is fine with talons on anything lower than d16

Above that your plan econ is fucked

[odd rose]

Im d10

But frenont with buff just ends me

[prime mountain]

how

[odd rose]

Especially coz of the boats

[prime mountain]

Which units do you have

Fremont gets soloed by trag 🥀

[odd rose]

I was using salter, pramalter, gg. Haruka and may (forgot who were the rest i got)

Oh yeah and narantuya

[prime mountain]

Ok so see the thing about is5 is you need units that scale well with relics

GG is not one of those, neither is naran (no aspd scaling on naran, gg is just mid)

Silverash alt and pram alt are both good

Neither quite really does anything against fremont but you can just, block him.

[odd rose]

I also tried nymph but a boat ended her

[prime mountain]

you can just not put your units in boat path

also crazy strategy...

[odd rose]

Then what's a good unit

[prime mountain]

For talons specifically: tragodia and rosmontis

The 2 goats

Then its relic dependant

[odd rose]

Have neither and I'm attempting supportless

[prime mountain]

Which guards do you have? Ulpi/hoe?

[odd rose]

Ulpi, leizialt, hoshi2, surtr (prob bad) and entelechia (definitely bad)

Oh and sakiko

[prime mountain]

Sakiko is great ed4 dps, draft her for sure

[quick steppe]

:handmixer:

[prime mountain]

Hoshi 2 isnt bad I dont think? Havent tried her much in is5

[odd rose]

Yeh she's my go to guard in is

[prime mountain]

talons player!

[odd rose]

Fremont imhas high res i think

[prime mountain]

he also deals arts damage no?

Just block him

he does nothing

just bait his first hit and then block

and hes fraudmont

[odd rose]

Oh so s2 gaming

[quick steppe]

do 245 :ya:

[prime mountain]

outside of is6, never

and its only for hitcount in is6

And maybe ed1 stalling

(ed1 is fraud we always do ed2 so idk)

[vagrant tiger]

Funnily enough I still haven’t done ED2 of IS6

[prime mountain]

Its quite hard but very fun

[silk crypt]

Whoever designed ItW enemies must be shot dead

[vagrant tiger]

I guess

https://www.krooster.com/u/real-beige-aak-33l4
might as well post my ops in case you wanna look

[odd rose]

Is6 ed 2 is hard?

At least on d10 eas probably easier than ed1 for me

[prime mountain]

Well comparatively to every other is6 ending yeah

but is6 as a whole is very easy

[rich thorn]

You just flower highroll

🚬

[cunning karma]

True

Best strat

[vagrant tiger]

Whatever that is

[rich thorn]

One of strongest squads before d18

[odd rose]

Maybe I'm still too new to be doing is

[prime mountain]

You cleared d10 so I'd say you're fine

Thats more than most people

[odd rose]

It's is5 new accounts can probably do that XD

[prime mountain]

I mean true...

[odd rose]

Is6 yeah that was harder

Not so easy to cheese

[rich thorn]

My alt acc can do that

If I'll even bother with doing story

[remote badger]

u have some sort of yapping rights at d15 tho!

[odd rose]

I'm trying to finish all is5 endings

[rich thorn]

Not true

[odd rose]

Only 4 (kicking my ass) and 5 left to go

[rich thorn]

We have too many op tongbaos

[odd rose]

Ok but that's rng

[rich thorn]

That's rogue like mode

[cunning karma]

not as consistent as kings

[rich thorn]

Ofk it's rng

[odd rose]

If it's rng it's not a cheese

Unlike lamp

[prime mountain]

Nah you can consistently get at least one OP one every run

[rich thorn]

You can just

Shadow squad

[prime mountain]

its rng but still way too easily accessible

[odd rose]

Oh yeah, but i don't think can get any newbie to beat yi

[rich thorn]

And do either shuttle or stir fry start

[prime mountain]

I guided my friend to do it with raidian exu

[odd rose]

If anything for newbies getting to the boss is harder than the boss ngl

[prime mountain]

on a like 1month old acc

so its doable!

[rich thorn]

And you can't deny

What raidian is a free unit

🚬

[odd rose]

Unless you have guidance newbies will struggle a lot to get her to e2

After getting raidian though

Gets WAY easier

[rich thorn]

You just take someone's trag, and later exu2

With special squad

Ez

[odd rose]

Especial squad doesn't give raidian till she's e2

[cunning karma]

There are guides that you can find to e2 Raidian on a new account, not as easy as IS5 but totally doable

[odd rose]

Usually newbies use a tragodia cheese

Which is doable

But a newbie won't have the skill or knowledge prob

Unless someone guides then directly it might be hard

That was me

Then i got hoshi 2 and yi became unable to move

[rich thorn]

You can do that to actually finish all 3 endings

Till d6 at least

[odd rose]

Again after raidian is e2 it gets way easier

Special squad does a lot

[remote badger]

have u ever heard of defsupp

[rich thorn]

No

We play gvg

[vagrant tiger]

Yeah I haven’t touched anything but special squad.
(Mainly cause I don’t think I have the ops to do IS6 without her)

[cunning karma]

I'd recommend the -30 strat it takes some time to learn what's happening in each turmoil node though, but you probably only need to learn 50% of that to consistently get >30hp

[odd rose]

I had to use other squads to get some masteries

It's hell

Especially before you get mod

[rich thorn]

Because mode wants you to have some operators

[odd rose]

Own raidian doesn't do nearly as much

[rich thorn]

Not empty handed

[vagrant tiger]

Seeing as I have neither mod nor masteries except S1M1 I’m not leaving special squad

[rich thorn]

And that's a permanent mode

[vagrant tiger]

I mean yeah, I knew that

[rich thorn]

But fear not

You can just flower squad pre d12

And destroy game

🥹

Via stacking tons of hp/relics

[vagrant tiger]

How does a bunch of coupons give you a bunch of LP and relics?

[rich thorn]

Because it's 0 coupons for toss for this squad

[cunning karma]

There's a Tongbao that gives you 2hp when tossed

[rich thorn]

Pre d12

Just need to toss flower tongbao during retoss

[cunning karma]

And another one that gives you a lot of ingot when tossed

[rich thorn]

You literally fill your box with bunch of flowers, lp and ignots on toss tongbao

And start pressing retoss button like crazy

[cunning karma]

Technically calendar also works but it sounds so fucking painful to aggregate resource with that

[rich thorn]

Still better that ling abuse

🚬

[gaunt bay]

meow

[rich thorn]

Calendar and turtle are more like a bonus

The real play is interdep and shuttle

[cunning karma]

🫃

[gaunt bay]

🫃

[rich thorn]

🫃

[cunning karma]

I need dlc2 to come right now so that I can skip coin toss animation

[odd rose]

To have her with mod you need to

am i messing up by doing is5 without tinman?

[prime mountain]

He's useful on talon runs but not mandatory by any means

[remote badger]

meow

[prime mountain]

Trag is the one who breaks the gamemode imo

[odd rose]

i've found pramalter also pretty good

370% dmg scales very well with atk buffs

[remote badger]

its true

[lost zodiac]

You should go ahead and translate, I hesitated to update my doc since I fundamentally misunderstood something and didn't want to post misinfo

[prime mountain]

Right but trag s3 with some sp buffs soloes every hard emergency stage

it doesnt matter how hard the enemy attacks

it doesnt matter how much hp they have

they are not moving

they are not attacking

[gaunt bay]

m3

[prime mountain]

Only if we think ed2 is real...

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-no-limit-to-the-glaze-flight-riding-ftc-glazed-donut-gif-13467296479651443764

[prime mountain]

Bro carried me to 245t3 he deserves it!!!!

[odd rose]

doesn't it still lose vs fast atk?

[prime mountain]

No

[rich thorn]

what you mean by something?

[prime mountain]

the cages scale with hp

mfw 10 hitcount cage

[rich thorn]

and I already done that (short ver from some of bilibili vids)

[gaunt bay]

elusive merc

exactly

ur pregnant

[prime mountain]

[gaunt bay]

[rich thorn]

as about sources @lost zodiac
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1af2wBCE8x/?spm_id_from=333.788.videopod.sections&vd_source=355a5a2ca0fe948659febe009febacae

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1axsRznE3p/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.-1&trackid=web_related_0.router-related-2479604-tdxs9.1776729911728.658

for kettling you add shuttle (and interdep luck on d12+)

and in the end you either kettle or finish with good number of relics (if not lucky with hp tongbao toss / exchanges)

[nocturne cape]

Hi mouse

Why is this guy mpreg reacting

[rich thorn]

from all of that I`m just not sure about how f6 ed4 loop works with unclounded instead of mindfulness

[nocturne cape]

Uh oh

[rich thorn]

because it ends too fast in low hp

[nocturne cape]

Theyve been typing for a hot minute

[lost zodiac]

Just Tongbao exchange logic in general, still didn't fully understand how Tongbao values were categorized

[rich thorn]

oh

sec

I got you

thats dlc2 tho

[lost zodiac]

Cuz there are a million exceptions

[rich thorn]

thats full table

and visual ver of that

[lost zodiac]

Yea it's the "possible result of exchange" one that I was unsure about, were we supposed to just memorize what converts into what (or use the is central Tongbao calculator)

[cunning karma]

Technically only 10 exceptions

[rich thorn]

basically yes, memorize or look at table

[nocturne cape]

People are so mean today they just mpreg everything they see

[rich thorn]

or calc

[nocturne cape]

Smh

[rich thorn]

its easier for me to look at pic when im playing on phone

[lost zodiac]

I thought I was in IS-central

[slate hull]

mpregnated strategies

[nocturne cape]

Damn mouse wants to become a maid

Respectable

[rich thorn]

yes, instead of ||foot/futa|| talk we mpreg anyone here now

[cunning karma]

Any feet pic of Sui?

[rich thorn]

only ray corn

[lost zodiac]

Ye nowadays I just look at this

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/overview/tongbao-exchange-calculator/

[rich thorn]

ye, thats same actually

basically, rule of thumb
almost all tongbaos can downgrade into 6 normal ones, if they are in the box, you cant downgrade

and normal ones cant be upgraded

[lost zodiac]

Wait, that's enlightening

I thought that was just to block bulwark downgrades, but it serves a bigger purpose overall

[rich thorn]

in upgrade I mean, exchanged for bigger rarity

[rich thorn]

that too actually

but in the run you can get things like stove or lei fa/duck

and they could be downgraded into normal ones too (you can see that in calc or that big image with all tongbaos)

so even without bulwark into cocoon abuse you sometimes want to have some normal flower tongbaos

[sinful sparrow]

U don’t?

😢

[rich thorn]

@sly harness look at this slop

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1mSzvBVEsT/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.-1&trackid=web_related_0.router-related-2479604-tdxs9.1776731132668.376

f2 29 coupons

nwm

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Rq6uBJEFe/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.8&trackid=web_related_0.router-related-2479604-fc7wt.1776731222919.281

thats even worse

on d18

[odd rose]

Tried talons

Got like 30 relics

Why

[prime mountain]

You're rerolling every node yeah? and going vertical?

[odd rose]

Ye

[prime mountain]

its kinda ass post expansion tbh you just dont get any plans and die

[odd rose]

Also went to possibility

[prime mountain]

lamp is so much more broken

[odd rose]

Got told fang gave more relics

But i got too little and died

[glad wasp]

in IS6, what do i need to refresh the item ? 🙏

[rich thorn]

Oh, and I forgot to mention, it's not only about bulwark/cocoon, but interdependent luck too. Because if you downgrade any other coin after that 6 ones, you will have very small risk coin pool (from 20 exchange results only 2 at dlc2 leads into risk coin), so it would be almost impossible to fuel up yourself with more coupons. So via having this 6 you will guarantee yourself a lot bigger pool and chance to result into risk coin and getting coupon via relic

thats pretty important for d12+ stuff

[rich thorn]

effect is about refreshing ignots / lp shop stocks, and you need coupons for that

[glad wasp]

alright, thanks

[gritty mason]

either pram2/sa2 good in is5?

[past garden]

Alright, ending 2 killed by summons at D6 down. Now to do the squad clears, shouldn't be too bad.

[rich thorn]

pram2 is mid, sa2 is good offpick guard, but agents are better because of chalice/lance

[sick mason]

Casters in general are so ehhh...

[rich thorn]

thats a pram2

she uses same hand as flingers

[sick mason]

But yeah honestly Pram alt just the most relevant caster in that gamemode

[rich thorn]

but the problem is her phalanx range and mark of epoch or what that necrosis shit calls

[sick mason]

Either u have to heal her constantly with wandering medic if u want to activate her S2

Or use S3

[rich thorn]

yep

[quick steppe]

pram2 is so goated

WE are all using pram

[rich thorn]

@gaunt bay

[sick mason]

Looks like I truly played IS5 that much

[inland elbow]

Rookie numbers

[sick mason]

Twice the amount of my nodes cleared in IS4

Huh in IS3 I only passed through 5.2k nodes

[quick steppe]

im only at like 10k in is5 and then like 2k collectively among all the other ones

[sick mason]

There's no personal stats in IS2 so I'm not sure

[inland elbow]

Wtf fraudchecked by stats

[quick steppe]

not seeing the vision

a real one would say that this is a budding prodigy

to be able to grasp so much so early

[woeful knot]

or just a fraud

[tender chasm]

will sending operator to scroll promote them too

?

[sick mason]

Yes

[tender chasm]

what if inside the special wolnderland

[sick mason]

My gosh it's the same as well

[tender chasm]

but that will not make them become candleguest right

[sick mason]

Who cares since ed4 doesn't care about candleguests

[tender chasm]

yeah, just squeezing more relic buff

[sinful sparrow]

https://b23.tv/FA7C30A

-50 technology

@inland elbow this is tianli ur goat

he proposed -50 technology for ed5 😢

[inland elbow]

based department

my goat can do no wrong

[sinful sparrow]

maybe ur a supporter of the -30 quilon tech

😢

[inland elbow]

if my goat tianli proposes it

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[glossy elk]

i finished right now on IS4 d8 with medic sniper squad ED1

laughted of having only left 9 HP seal

[cunning karma]

got 2000 ingots but couldn't find Wu-Shang shuttle, what a scam

[past garden]

Is this retroactive? I'm assuming not?

[cunning karma]

no

[oblique carbon]

is it advised to fight the is5 ed3 bosky on the second floor

[sinful basin]

is this stage a throw back to is3?

[cunning karma]

yeah, there's manmade carnival in the same encounter as well

[sinful basin]

pog

[brazen bane]

the stage name is "Totally Out of Control"

just in case you didnt catch it

[chrome tangle]

the stage is totally rad 🤟

[brazen bane]

it totally is Out of Control

[sinful basin]

lol

[lunar knoll]

probably not given f2 squad/relic strength, also it'll limit the amount of thoughts you can hold for the rest of the run even if you do win

[crystal niche]

can you beat it on the second floor?

[oblique carbon]

i did in fact beat it on second floor

[sinful basin]

which stage in face off give most reward again?

[crystal niche]

and no it's reccomended to get it on f4 or f5

[oblique carbon]

yeah that makes more sense

shoutout the undying cockroach

[crystal niche]

the other guy said it, it limits the amount of buff you can get for the rest of the run

[lunar knoll]

what sort of highroll team did you have damn

[cunning karma]

different rewards but usually you want the left one for two tongbao

[crystal niche]

i mean e2 walter and a healer and some bodys will do

[sinful basin]

the left one look like pain tho

[chrome tangle]

bargain bin lookin squad

[oblique carbon]

wait how many kings relics are there? 3 right

or 4

[crystal niche]

you have sakiko

chill

[brazen bane]

iirc the rule of thumb is go left side if you want more tongbao and right side if you want more recruit ticket

[crystal niche]

oh wait is that high ground

[sinful basin]

oi, you can insult me but you cant insult my squad

[brazen bane]

also if it's 2 animals on the right side thats obviously most ideal

[earnest shuttle]

"your squad looks bad"

[crystal niche]

maybe the guy wants the coins

[brazen bane]

no you dont

you want to brutalize two animals

[late pecan]

[crystal niche]

wow

[chrome tangle]

get your coins. fill ur purse

[brazen bane]

and steal their shit

[sinful basin]

animal cruelty is it then

[brazen bane]

(they deserve it)

[nocturne cape]

gotta love ed2

[chrome tangle]

did u find it

im feeling top of the board

[sinful basin]

can i silence those guy that spawn cup and dishes? i forgot

[brazen bane]

no

[nocturne cape]

taking your advice

will find out on the next floor

[crystal niche]

just do turmoil guessing this is f4

[nocturne cape]

f3

[brazen bane]

you have to take high hit count units to deal with them

[oblique carbon]

pram2, ethan, etc

[chrome tangle]

pram2 has hit count?

[nocturne cape]

yes

[brazen bane]

ice dot

[chrome tangle]

on which skill

[crystal niche]

s2

[nocturne cape]

s1 s2 s3

wdym

[crystal niche]

and s1 can be used

[oblique carbon]

it's her talent iirc

that spreads snow

[chrome tangle]

i havent looked at the operator

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1432368214758785206/praspin.gif

[crystal niche]

I'm guessing the guy wants to use her for ed2 left side but idk

[lunar knoll]

do skill activation relics like spinach, lightning rod, fist classics apply right away on ops that deploy with silveralt s2 stacks?

Or are the slashes only sourced to him?

[crystal niche]

not sourced

to anything

[crystal niche]

omg new pram gif

[sinful basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1481352262151438418/spicypram.gif

[lunar knoll]

oh disappointing, could've had interesting interactions

[chrome tangle]

wait if the snow falls for only every 5.5 secs and then goes away once a ground enemy touches it

how does that work

[crystal niche]

it doesn't go away

unless an enemy steps out of the tile

[chrome tangle]

so do you stall for tiles to stack

[crystal niche]

no?

why do u need to stall

in the first place she is never the first op u put down

[chrome tangle]

to keep them there even longer

[crystal niche]

what use is the ice tiles if you don't use them

[earnest shuttle]

the tile gonna disappear when enemies step on it, pram is not the only one you rely on

[crystal niche]

[chrome tangle]

idk

[oblique carbon]

is5 ed3 d4 what do yall think

[past garden]

Wow, I've never tanked the death splosions so easily AND absolutely DELETED teh boss, wtf is this run

I've also never no-leaked Ed1

[arctic panther]

its ed3 you'll be fine

most ed3s are piss easy anyway

[brazen bane]

many more to come

[brazen bane]

bullying Yi is the baseline expectation once you get used to IS6

[arctic panther]

welcome to highrolling

[past garden]

It's crazy how stuff snowballs sometimes, and other times it just... doesn't

[brazen bane]

Ascent goes crazy

[past garden]

I don't know what that is, but clearly ;P Everyone had bonkers stats

[crystal niche]

lumen hool and siege

[past garden]

All 3 were from coin free E2 recruits ;P

Vina actually murderized hte boss though, so that was funny

[nocturne cape]

its not

you liar

[brazen bane]

it's the name of the "get random free 6* recruit" tongbao

[crystal niche]

cooked

[chrome tangle]

Ok but

[crystal niche]

[chrome tangle]

Next time

Trust

[past garden]

Is scroll of scars Ed2?

[remote badger]

next food when

[crystal niche]

yes

[open marsh]

labubus

[chrome tangle]

Right naow

[arctic panther]

the one with the feet

[arctic panther]

where mod

[past garden]

Darn... I hate doing that one =/ But I guess I need to do it with a couple more squads for the last masteries

[brazen bane]

[past garden]

Wait, can you skip M2 if you do the M3 task?

[open marsh]

no trust yet she got offrated

[brazen bane]

you dont need trust for level 1 right

[cunning karma]

no

[brazen bane]

[past garden]

Damn

[crystal niche]

[arctic panther]

you'll be able to unlock m3 immediately after getting m2 if you do m3 first though

[crystal niche]

better to repeat ed2 3 times

than do 3 different squads

[past garden]

I guess at least now I don't have to worry about dpsing the foot too fast and trying to kill with summons, I can just blast away, especially as it seems likely I'll have enough spare ops to redeploy after 50%.

[remote badger]

u have 600s to kill

[past garden]

I mean hitting 50% too soon by dps too fast

[nocturne cape]

wushang into no megamus in 6 tosses into no healing from Tavern after 4 entries

this is not the day for IS

[crystal niche]

[nocturne cape]

correction, no megamus in 8 tosses

[crystal niche]

tianshi?

[nocturne cape]

yeah

this is easy win but still

my relic count

💀

[crystal niche]

[nocturne cape]

only 46 rn and i have to skip f5 shop cuz megamus ate my coupons

[remote badger]

lol

[crystal niche]

I didn't even see this yesterday, thanks

[nocturne cape]

Sleepge

i stg my 60 relics is doing similar damage to 30

[remote badger]

must've been stir fry

[nocturne cape]

no stir fry

no drum

no chalice

no sui flower

no bell

[crystal niche]

[remote badger]

low roll ish

smile

[old rain]

how to beat this 😢

[remote badger]

if wisadele

then just blast those enemies!

also bring healers

with good kits

[severe oasis]

-12

a win is a win!

[nocturne cape]

ofc its f6 shenchu because why not

might as well hit me with a beyond mount and sea at this point

[severe oasis]

easy stage tbh

[nocturne cape]

ok its EM inferno

ig

not the worst

[crystal niche]

in the end you beat it right

[sinful basin]

i didnt know only candle guess can enter ending 3

[old rain]

i notice there is a light stove on the top right, beside blue box, do you guys know how to activate it

[crystal niche]

kill the black little things

to make them red little things

[sinful basin]

how do i damage the boss in IS6 ED3?

oh nvm

[nocturne cape]

Lowest roll in a good while

Shuttle and stir fry at the end of f6

f4 wushang and f6 shen chu

[errant siren]

Yeah, you will start doing it very fast, when he will show his body.

[bright otter]

@nocturne cape are you still looking for luo? i have him m6 with mod

[nocturne cape]

Found a friend whos willing to swap, thank you tho

[languid patio]

Should I have an All Map Silencer(Lappdumbter) or Blue Box Freezer(Pramalter)

[bright otter]

Ok

[languid patio]

which worth the caster voucher out of these two options

[nocturne cape]

Roster gapped from not having luo

[languid patio]

For IS6

[nocturne cape]

Pram

[languid patio]

Ok

[woven pulsar]

supports don't count for the instant promote thing?

[late pecan]

Correct me if I am wrong, the blue medal is D10+? Or the light blue medal?

[errant siren]

D12+ is maxed grade.

[late pecan]

Oh this for maxed medal applies to all IS or just this one?

[errant siren]

All, except IS2 and IS3, since that feature isn't present at all.

[late pecan]

Thank you

[nocturne cape]

yes

[quick steppe]

is6 technology

also why not playing class squads is goated

[nocturne cape]

B…but consistency

[quick steppe]

tree squad is #inclusive and not potgated for the starter!

[late pecan]

consistency
(Looks at hope reduction in class squad)

The voucher rng on the other hand...

Mmm nvm I see

[sly harness]

Shops guarantee in-class vouchers and in IS6 you can get up to 4 pages per shop

[nocturne cape]

Especially now that youre not robbing on f1

The second shop can give you the consistency you need

[late pecan]

Dont u rob on F4 no?

[nocturne cape]

You can

but the timing for rob is pretty flexible

For us relic count nerds we only rob at the end of f6

[sly harness]

f3 is comfortable for consistency if possible but it limits your collectibles count highrolls

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

I used to rob on f3 every game

And i usually only end on 60 ish relics at most for 2+3

[late pecan]

Dang

[nocturne cape]

So yeah not an impressive amount of relics

But if you can win

Who cares

[sly harness]

But ye collectibles count doesn't matter if we talk about win rate

[late pecan]

win harder

[nocturne cape]

Thats the point basically

[late pecan]

Truly a strategy of all time

[nocturne cape]

Since winning became consistent you just try to have fun by having a bunch of relics every run

[sly harness]

Hit more than 150 or restart

[late pecan]

IS5 be like: relic count go brrrrr

[nocturne cape]

pretty sure IS6 in its current state already surpassed IS5 in avg relic count

[sly harness]

In IS5 it wasn't that crazy

[inland elbow]

Easily yes

[nocturne cape]

By a long shot too

[late pecan]

Oh yeah IS6 nowadays

[sly harness]

Like ~50 in Lmap and probably ~80 in Ingots

[nocturne cape]

You best run of ingot talons might come close to 100 but thats really ideal

[inland elbow]

50 in lamp is crazy

I think I averaged like 35

[late pecan]

Lamp is just speedrun strat no?

[nocturne cape]

No

[inland elbow]

Like 60 to 70 in talons

[nocturne cape]

Blueprint lamp is speedrun strat

[inland elbow]

Lamp is the best strategy for consistent wins

[late pecan]

Ohh I see, cuz of wish fulfilled nodes for Kings relics.

[sly harness]

let me check my old Lamp runs I may be misremembering something

[late pecan]

After that + hand, then relics u get on further Wish Fulfilled nodes become random?

[nocturne cape]

Not quite

[inland elbow]

You're going for hand + kings + chalice

[nocturne cape]

Theres coin operatred toy and chalice

And sarkaz kings if you have visage

[late pecan]

Oh yea Chalice so that just need a shop rob to get err, 120+ ingots to meet the requirement?

[nocturne cape]

150

You need to have 38 ingots before a perfect rob

[late pecan]

Oh I see

I assume hand + kings + chalice + toy can be guaranteed in Wish Fulfilled?

[sly harness]

Low roller (it was ~50 in my Lamp runs)

[late pecan]

With Lamp*

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

You should have them every run

[late pecan]

Sarkaz King relic tho

If u obtain all Kings relic, does that also become guaranteed

[nocturne cape]

No

As stated before you need to have visage

Visage of Crowned Fates

A relic

[late pecan]

Rip, Visage rng?

The one that sets ur max LP to 1

[nocturne cape]

Yes

Once you have that, sarkaz kings will start showing up in wish

[sly harness]

You won't have enough nodes to get the Sarkaz King's collectibles

[nocturne cape]

You need to be level 6 or higher when you obtained visage

[errant siren]

F

<@&586570970345635868>

[inland elbow]

Lmao

[nocturne cape]

Damn exu is posting mrbeast

I should check it out if

[late pecan]

Damn, it would be nice to guarantee Visage

[nocturne cape]

<@&586570970345635868> theyre spreading

[crystal niche]

bro again?

[nocturne cape]

Legit 2 of these scammers within 10 min

Unreal

[crystal niche]

goddamn

look at salt mines lol

[nocturne cape]

Thank you for your service mods

Xd

That looks so wrong without context

[scenic saffron]

Cube cube do u still need luo xiaohei :3

[nocturne cape]

I got it, thanks for asking

[scenic saffron]

Okk

[rocky frigate]

can i cheese is3 last knight with tragodia's cat?

just like the last trials of navigator

[crystal niche]

is last knight ed2

[rocky frigate]

yea

[errant siren]

Yes

You can

[rocky frigate]

nice thank you

i thought i really need to bring lumen just to unfroze my ops

also well well well, out of all operator i have

[sly harness]

Lumen
Just bring Lemuen to nuke him

[crystal niche]

that's great

[sly harness]

But ye Tragodia can perma him although he will need a bit of help for phase 2 (like Ela mine)

[paper notch]

lumen just the goat frfr

[rocky frigate]

this might look really wrong, but i dont have her yet💔

[crystal niche]

[rocky frigate]

yea after the trials of navigator, i thought i could beat him real ez when all i do is just cheesing him with tragodia bruh

my whole ops freezing to death

[sly harness]

Knight with the great 2026

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017950702552764476/1393194649858084944/QMG6PZM_2BSE3YW0R.gif

[crystal niche]

cat

[sly harness]

Here a modern relicless setup if you need some reference

https://youtu.be/eYCE1nTl2JY?is=8zbWZbarOjaCeadc

[rocky frigate]

nice

[paper notch]

who's the guy working on the thumbnails

[woven pulsar]

almost gave up when frostnova phase 2 wiped my whole team out

[vagrant tiger]

God damn it Sui
If only the foot stayed around for a couple more seconds I could have at least Gotten to the ED2 fight

[minor wave]

I'm trying to do Ending 3 on IS6, I've been reading up the guides and wiki but I still don't know what/where is the pathfinder node

[timid fox]

did u get the board thing in Doubt?

[minor wave]

Yeah I got it, I asked over at help and I got it

[minor wave]

Yeah hahahahaha that's it. I haven't moved after I got the prereq item since I'm afraid of messing up and ruining the run

[timid fox]

go to this pathfinder, and select special battle

[minor wave]

I will do that. Thanks!

[round dune]

For IS what is leizi alt skill m prio

[sly harness]

S2 > S3 > S1

[round dune]

Ty

[languid patio]

Am I sensing

people going to use both of the silverash siblings in IS6

[sly harness]

Yep they are both very good in IS6 (maybe because IS6 is very easy, but more seriously I am not sure about Prama in dlc2, haven't heard much about her)

[crystal niche]

doesn't she help in ed5 with gnosis?

[cursive verge]

Wow sash1 viable outside IS5 asw

[sly harness]

[vagrant tiger]

I mean, yeah, of course that’s gonna happen, both are amazing
Especially since Sash alt can do goofy shit with the auto use skill coin and S2 with enough SP gen

[vagrant tiger]

We had true silverslash, now we have blue silverslashes

[sly harness]

You can just spam it manually

[faint rampart]

dream of curio is debuff like someone would say

[cursive verge]

I think I can rest easier now knowing the amount of rma he gobbles up smh I woukd hqve to farm rma straight for 3 days for him and thats from event

[vagrant tiger]

I mean, yeah, but the skill auto use coin makes it funnier

[crystal niche]

is is4 rob f3 below ez?

[sly harness]

This is the second thing after Saki that is starting to look real in the dlc1 environment

[crystal niche]

?

[sly harness]

It is not hard but f4+ also isn't hard. A lot comes down to cannot rng

[crystal niche]

well i got the bosky with 2 shops on f2 and i have no ingots lol

so i might as well rob

[faint rampart]

no principled gameplay in this is6 sir👍

[crystal niche]

ok well that was an ez rob

[languid patio]

I slapped Wang finally

I slapped Wang until he said sorry for putting his black go pieces everywhere

[woven pulsar]

why tf do I only have 3 deployment 😭

[crystal niche]

epoch probably

[woven pulsar]

so cooked

[crystal niche]

iirc there's an epoch with -2 deploy limit

[brazen bane]

very fun and balanced

[crystal niche]

yeaaaa

[sly harness]

Surely with full Lamp Wis can solo

[crystal niche]

still you won right

[woven pulsar]

still doing it

[crystal niche]

is dominion

the black things

in is4

[brazen bane]

yes

black fart

[crystal niche]

how much -aspd