is-station

[gaunt bay]

wtf is watchman

[glossy elk]

i will continue use my Wis on IS6

[gaunt bay]

why is exualt skin its own slot lmao

its guaranteed

[glossy elk]

because yeah i am a braindead AK player

[gaunt bay]

should be free tile

[glossy elk]

and i try do ED2 on D9 fail at the floor 3 boss

because of the feet

[slate hull]

man, you must be speedrunning the butterfly so hard

[glossy elk]

i just want get the last medal to complete all IS sets

[oblique carbon]

how's sakiko in is5? probably very good right since she's attack speed + offensive recovery

[prime mountain]

Best quilon dps

you just put her down and she kills the guy

[steel relic]

[sly harness]

But she is only used for that

I mean her performance en route isn't that impactful

[lucid zealot]

can i use archetto s1 in IS becaues im lazy

or is s3 just better

[remote badger]

3

[lucid zealot]

oki thanks

[grave vine]

quick check is there a timing for feeding izumik if I am to play weedy push strat w/o ange?

[remote badger]

ask bait

[grave vine]

how bad is emer water fire union again if I don't have frd/silence and not a lot of lp?

[quick steppe]

ask bait

but probably

really bad

[inland elbow]

What are you using instead of ange

[inland elbow]

Sounds bad but depends on your draft and relics

[grave vine]

weird ass snip med squad with 3 stacks of flashing sword, scope, and some random +15/25% damage here and there.

https://tenor.com/view/mlk-mlk-day-mlk-jr-martin-luther-king-i-have-a-dream-gif-15090290344798849812

sadly no glory pack here

[silk crypt]

Stupid question. Does Sui's leg in IS6 trigger mines when spawning

Like. If I set up a bunch of Dorothy mines. Do they detonate or do they just disappear

[inland elbow]

If you had sa alt this would be quite a bit more juiced, but this looks pretty doable

Ines on s3 unless you have initial sp

Weedy on skill 2, place on bottom facing up to keep top left spiders stalled forever

Whisperain with flashing swords should do decently

[silk crypt]

I must know

[inland elbow]

My gut instinct would be to say they disappear, but there's only one way to find out

Glhf

[surreal vapor]

which pram2 skill for is6?

[sinful sparrow]

2 > 3 > 1

[prime mountain]

(relic dependant too)

Get sp on hit and just spam s1

-2 weight, +2sp on hit and just shift everyone!

[tired wyvern]

Lol

[wary prawn]

https://www.krooster.com/u/alive-honey-raven-24ca

am i strong enough to be doing is5 ed245 on diff 10? if not who do I need

[heavy pumice]

melee centric huh
should be doable (very imo)
just lack fast redeploy ops

gravel and agents would fill that

[wary prawn]

yea ive only been playing since hoshi dropped and the only limited ranged that dropped was pram 😭

should i start with yato soul escort even if i dont have kafka?

[heavy pumice]

dont force it when didnt have the important ops for soul escort

i think try with vgg route

[wary prawn]

i dont have hoederer or ulp, should i still start with sash?

[heavy pumice]

forgot if borrow e1 hoederer is a thing or nah

[wary prawn]

i can borrow at start of run yeah

[heavy pumice]

try it first

[wary prawn]

if i spark rosmontis is wisadel start + rosmontis/pram for a flinger comp good as well? im just worried since i dont have agents or kalsit

[heavy pumice]

you have mon3tr so no need kal

agents, puzzle good enough (he scale well with relic) if willing so far to build him which i didnt recc

[wary prawn]

👍

does sash2 fill a similar role to agent or no

[heavy pumice]

flinger comp uh....
i have no idea if no ros/wisadel still good

no, sash2 are different

[wary prawn]

i can get rosmontis from the shop since i can spark him, and borrow wis, just asking if pram ros wis would be good if i was missing kalsit and agents

[wary prawn]

👍

[grand wraith]

do i give up this run..

[severe oasis]

no, thats great. lots of fights to do!

[grand wraith]

but no trader so i have no collectibles

[severe oasis]

just win the fights youll get relics

[cunning karma]

you can get collectibles from fights

you don't have that much hp anyway and you can't guarantee that you recover hp from legends, why would you rely on trade to get all your relics

[grand wraith]

i should also mention this is my roster

[severe oasis]

more than enough for like literally 90% of turmoils

[cunning karma]

good enough for some turmoils (there are at least 3 that Raidian can solo relicless)

[sick mason]

Are u tryin to be a tank or something

She has more DEF than my Hoshitter

[silk crypt]

Question

[errant siren]

[silk crypt]

In Words Past Like Smoke (IS6 ED2)

Are there enemy wave triggers for boss at half HP?

Or are they just by time

[errant siren]

Yes

Second wave of enemies will appear if boss has 50% HP remaining.

[silk crypt]

And how much is until that second wave

I don't trust I can burst the boss down, so I'd like to know at what point I can retreat unnecessary lane holders in preparation

[errant siren]

Umm, about 17 enemies or so

Small pack.

Mostly center and left

Someone on right

[silk crypt]

I believe I have been lied to

[crystal niche]

does is 6 ed4 route f6 have a rogue trader?

[sick mason]

Yes

Dude

[crystal niche]

[silk crypt]

I had a tongbao that buffed enemy defense by like. Way Too Much%

I was barely able to damage the boss, timed out and died

[severe oasis]

six seven

[silk crypt]

Not to mention that, IS6 Boss2 does not, in fact, have HP-triggered enemy spawns

I was utterly lied to

[severe oasis]

ed2a does. ed2 doesnt

[silk crypt]

Well, I had the HP to spare.
What I couldn't spare, was time

[past garden]

Are there any good ed1 strats besides Trag+FRD stall? I can't seem to get that to work. I mean, I've still been winning, but I'm also only on D4 and it's ALWAYS messy and I can never keep the boss up top for more than their first death bomb wave of stupidity cycle

[severe oasis]

well ed2a doesnt have a boss hp triggered wave, it has a killgate which excludes the boss

[cursive verge]

Hoshi2 on s2 with haruka also works if you have them

[past garden]

I just managed a run with Hoshi2 tanking, and she somehow managed to pull it off despite the medic not being able to keep up with heals at all, but it was an unusually busted run from an item standpoint.

What's a Haruka?

[silk crypt]

Well, either way, I will go go sleep now. Scroll of Scars pisses me off.

[sick mason]

I'm gonna dry this shop

[silk crypt]

I gotta do Scroll of Scars two more times with different squads for Raidian M9...

[sick mason]

Plus I also have strange picky statue

[cunning karma]

if you have some spare damage dealers just kill yi while trying to keep him on the upper side, or you can use hoshi2 s2 to tank yi while doing decent damage, or just farm 40hp and leak Yi

[silk crypt]

Please. Allow me to make a meme

I'll be back in a bit

[past garden]

I also did have 52 hp, so I could have leaked haha, but... Still, I want to know what my options are for depending on how the recruit tags go

[severe oasis]

im going to dry ji

[past garden]

As sometimes the game says "fuck you" but if I know some other ways of winning I can maybe snap a W despite bad RNG

Oh, right, that's Haruka... How does Haruka keep HERSELF alive though? She doesn't have the range to heal Hoshi outside the death ghosts explosion range

[sick mason]

Skill 2?

[past garden]

She doesn't get asploded?

[sick mason]

But if u really want to mitigate so much dmg, S3 worked

60% sanctuary is just lowkey OP

[past garden]

Huh

[sick mason]

Bich you showed up one node before ed4 itself

[sick mason]

[silk crypt]

Still my only successful ED2

I hate scroll of Scars so much

[arctic panther]

now do it 4 more times

[silk crypt]

Why 4? I only need to do it 2 more times

For Raidian S2M2 and S3M2

Ah, endbook I guess?

[arctic panther]

ed2 is required for some proficiencies iirc

[silk crypt]

Nope. All proficiencies done

The last one was to stab Yi with Raidian

[arctic panther]

oh ok

now do it 2 more times

[crystal niche]

now do ed4 and meet BMaS

[silk crypt]

Which I decided to do on a run where I could've beaten ED2, but I got shit Consciousness RNG and didn't get candlestick until I only had one encounter to kill it. And it was left at 51%HP. And I stabbed Yi in frustration

[silk crypt]

I know not what a BMaS is, but I will have to do all endings for Raidian's modules

AnYHOO I've spent too long awake. I must away

[arctic panther]

you will find out soon enough

[crystal niche]

BMaS killed my last run altho it wasn't a high roll

[arctic panther]

highrolling wont save you that much in bmas

[crystal niche]

I truly waited until the cars were on the right with the right rotation

but even then i couldn't kill the small thingies

[arctic panther]

no hitcount?

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[crystal niche]

ethan and prama

I don't have ascalon or mizuki

most runs i've seen had them both

[cursive verge]

Alternatively use raidian s1

[past garden]

I was wondering if that might work... Haven't tried it yet tho

[floral plaza]

just went blind into the new f6 car map emergancy

[west quarry]

lfg

[floral plaza]

new run it is

[west quarry]

finally rare hour

[errant siren]

Chen-SCP

[west quarry]

imagine if it just gave all ur ops camo

smh

i should do ed3 with this

camo vs camo

thematic

[faint rampart]

https://youtu.be/MD5atqRDa6Q
might help idk

[tidal dew]

This is the 5th bro give me something else I beg

[cunning karma]

It happens

Very often actually

[tidal dew]

Yeah most of my runs I can't drop a single caster voucher

[faint rampart]

isnt that great

[tidal dew]

Well one of my strongest OP is pramalter

This run is fucked anyway let's just restart

[fresh cobalt]

What do I need to clear an IS run? Like what op is optimal for the stages

[cunning karma]

Can't really answer such a vague question

[cursive verge]

Fuck around, get fucked, return read guides from IS Central, go back and fuck around

[tidal dew]

Real Gs don't fuck

[oblique carbon]

what's a good beginner friendly strat for is5 before i get blueprint squad? do i just do support squad and get as far as i can

[paper notch]

lamp + wisadel

[cunning karma]

I think ingot squad would actually be better

It's a free refresh each floor

[oblique carbon]

so borrow a wis, get lamp from that one node and then see how far i can go, noted

[paper notch]

you get king set and try to beat ed1

[oblique carbon]

oh also what makes hoederer "illegally good"? i get that he has heal on offensive recovery but like is that it

[errant siren]

On IS5, with help of relics, he can constantly procc S1 and heal upon that and thus not die that easily.

He will be mid elsewhere.

[oblique carbon]

oh yeah i was referring specifically to is5, since the pinned guide said to always draft him

[errant siren]

Honorable mention from me will be CrocWife stunner role in RA2.

[oblique carbon]

are atk speed relics that common in is5 that he'll always be strong?

[paper notch]

lamp guaranteed +500 aspd

sooo

[cunning karma]

It's guaranteed with lamp

[errant siren]

You can ensure their drop with lamp.

[oblique carbon]

god damn 500??

[tidal dew]

"Loose half of your Originum Ingot but gain 2 candles"

[oblique carbon]

nvm yeah i see why now

[tidal dew]

It was 2 for me, 3 was if I wanted to risk a higher price

What's the point of recruiting an operator that you already upgraded with orange square

[errant siren]

Light Candle

[cunning karma]

Light Candle

[errant siren]

Meaning you can use him in Wonderland battles.

[tidal dew]

I see thanks, if I couldn't light it it wouldn't be shown here right

[errant siren]

I mean, it's free.

[tidal dew]

Yeah but i chose Raidian instead

[errant siren]

So he will always appear as option.

[tidal dew]

Is there a node I could dump all my hope for good benefits ?

[hearty plaza]

Shu leisure node

[tidal dew]

I dumped it in tavern

[hearty plaza]

That works too

[tidal dew]

Alright 1 more clear for Raidian E2

[oblique carbon]

so if i need to have 1 life point to get that +500 atk spd relic with lamp, do i just cross multiple nodes with too much toil to artificially lose life points

[inland elbow]

Yes, you naturally hit 1 lp by just playing the game

[oblique carbon]

noted

gonna try ed1 for the first time what are my chances

[faint rampart]

100%

[oblique carbon]

sweet

[analog rampart]

Can I just say that I freaking hate this hsu-hui debuff

[oblique carbon]

oh yeah wow this lamp + king thing is strong asf

[inland elbow]

Stop hand mixing but yeah it's trivial

[oblique carbon]

wdym

[inland elbow]

Certain 6* ops have hands

And you want to avoid them

Wisadel and flingers have the best hand

[oblique carbon]

are these like relics? or

[inland elbow]

Yes

[oblique carbon]

i see

[inland elbow]

Lamp gives you hands first

Then kings

[earnest shuttle]

Can I use this to early dp printing as agent hmmm

[inland elbow]

So if you draft ops with hands you're trolling yourself out of kings

[inland elbow]

Yes

[oblique carbon]

so then i guess i was lucky with gettings kings right at the very end?

[earnest shuttle]

nice

[inland elbow]

It's not luck, it's based purely on what operators you took

[oblique carbon]

ok so wdym by trolling myself out of kings

[oblique carbon]

aren't there kings relics here?

[crystal niche]

sooo how do i increase candle in jinxi border

[inland elbow]

Yeah you refreshed more wish fulfilled than you normally do

[crystal niche]

other than buffs before entering jinxi border

[inland elbow]

Think of it this way, 5 ops with different hands = 5 hands to go through before kings

[oblique carbon]

ahh i see okay okay

there's a list of who has hands right

[inland elbow]

Yes

Can just look a the wiki to see the archetypes that have hands

[crystal niche]

[inland elbow]

You'll be taking hand of rumble and no other hand ideally

[oblique carbon]

oh it's whole archetypes, not specific units

[inland elbow]

Yes

[oblique carbon]

does that mean if i wanna draft hoederer i have to do it after getting my kings?

[inland elbow]

Hoe has no hand

[oblique carbon]

oh i see okay

[inland elbow]

Someone like bagpipe has a hand

So does lappland or goldenglow if you drafted them

[oblique carbon]

so i messed up by drafting click and getting the free bagpipe

[inland elbow]

Only 6* trigger it

[oblique carbon]

ah

wait but why do i have the mech accord caster hand then

[inland elbow]

Probably a random drop from somewhere

[oblique carbon]

hahaha that can happen too?

noted

[inland elbow]

It shouldn't be from lamp if you didn't get a 6* undulation hand operator

[oblique carbon]

also shileds was saying that kings gives +500 atkspd, was that a typo

i see the +50, i do not see the extra 0

[sinful sparrow]

hi Bait how to get wu-shang every run

[crystal niche]

it is 50

[inland elbow]

They're talking about chalice and coin operated toy

[crystal niche]

and max aspd is + 500

[inland elbow]

If you're playing optimally, you can trigger the condition to get them

[crystal niche]

since base is 100 and max is 600

[inland elbow]

Which is to get 150 ingots for chalice

80 for coin

[crystal niche]

is there a guarenteed way

[oblique carbon]

so how true is this statement

[inland elbow]

This is important in high difficulties where to do ending 4 you need to get chalice pretty much

[sinful sparrow]

there isn’t
i am just joking around

and this mf Bait is getting 135 relics

grrrr

[crystal niche]

[heavy pumice]

you forgor commandment or whatever its called

[sinful sparrow]

where do these mfs even get this much ingots :madge:

[inland elbow]

+500 is a bit of an exaggeration, it's a consistent +400

[sinful sparrow]

Bait did you score four diffs with 300 gourds in F6 bosky

on that 135 relic run

[oblique carbon]

+400 just off the kings set alone?

[sinful sparrow]

kings set is 50

[inland elbow]

Nah, I taverned for lp and bought out bosky shop over and over

[inland elbow]

Read here

[oblique carbon]

yeah so how do i scrounge for the other +350

[sinful sparrow]

Chalice at 150 ingots is 210 ASPD, and COT at 150 ingots is another 90

Lamp guarantees chalice at 150 ingots

[halcyon flame]

aint no way this guys still awake

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[oblique carbon]

oh was this for me? mb i didn't realize

[sinful sparrow]

y ur not asleep

[halcyon flame]

is6 done ruined my guy

[sinful sparrow]

pls go sleep its bad for ur health to stay up this late

[halcyon flame]

i was working on my paper

and now im playing is3

[sinful sparrow]

as ur wife i cant let u do that 🥀

[halcyon flame]

great transition

[sinful sparrow]

unironically my brain dies at 2am onwards

so i just bedge

awake and i would eat shit on bosky f2 with raidian hoshi istg

[halcyon flame]

the play is that i just dump haphazardly when tired and refine it when im not

actually that might explain why my is runs end up with me on f4 with no ops

too lazy to do a tedious stage the night before into being 1 combat off leveling

[sinful sparrow]

u might be stupid

😢

my ass currently is just grinding slop IS2 d15 medal

[crystal niche]

wait if i put my op through the doubt in jinxi border, in the fight they will be e2 right

just like the scout?

@errant siren

[errant siren]

Yes

But no candle tho.

[crystal niche]

[errant siren]

Just E2.

[crystal niche]

well they will be in the end fight promoted

[woeful knot]

great help me figure out the mantra bomb !

so i can be freed

[halcyon flame]

send me a fully compiled list of your notes formatted in chicago manual style and i will

[woeful knot]

dawg ill kill bait before that

[sinful sparrow]

Bait is playing is6 instead of slaving away in relicless is3?

damn the situation is dire 😢

maybe wu cang is ass

[woeful knot]

not even playing relicless

[crystal niche]

what does legend do in jinxi border? is it still the same stuff or are there new stuff

[sinful sparrow]

Same shit

[woeful knot]

its for the vid contest

[crystal niche]

[woeful knot]

he wants to enter

im taking the sa plush

[crystal niche]

the candle option in tavern for ingot can be done twice right

one 30, second 20?

[halcyon flame]

Vid contest?

[woeful knot]

u know the one yostar hosts

showcase sa and pram

[halcyon flame]

oh

whats the other prize

[woeful knot]

im taking that too!

giftcards pretty sure

still malding tho help me !

[halcyon flame]

so wheres my cut 😭

i have a research proposal due this week icl

[woeful knot]

yeah dw its fine

we kill bait instead

[halcyon flame]

i am in agreeance

[terse bough]

can pramalt solo hold left side on dragon paw boss is6?

[earnest shuttle]

if you have enough sp regen to spam s1 then yeah

[terse bough]

alr

s2 + ethan enough if im lazy?

[earnest shuttle]

[sinful sparrow]

idt its enough

hoshi2 s2 with pram s1 is great though

[oblique carbon]

who's a better free pick in is5? raidian or pram2?

actually nvm they're not free im saving my hope

is it possible to refresh the trader node at the end of floor 1 in is5? or is it just gonna be another trader

[errant siren]

Yes, but why you want to do that?

[oblique carbon]

just curious really

[errant siren]

But yeah, you can get rid of his shop any time.

Sure.

[oblique carbon]

guess i just got lucky and refreshed a trade into a trade twice then

[errant siren]

Unless you're using Ingot squad, which on first reroll shop is 100% drop.

[vagrant tiger]

ED2 of IS6 is still kicking my ass(that and getting shit luck as to not even get to floor five)

[royal holly]

Holy moly, I am shaking. I finally did the IS5 Amiya Hard Ending

[faint rampart]

congrats

https://tenor.com/view/susge-stare-pepe-sus-gif-6983445641596872640

[royal holly]

I am so tired, I've been trying to clear this for like months.

Or has it been a year? When was the ending released?

[rich thorn]

congtats, now do it on high diff

[cursive verge]

Raidian is non-existent in IS5
Think the same goes for pram2 tho ig she could get the usable tag

[faint rampart]

🖐️

[rich thorn]

pram2 is fine, but not main pick

because she is in flinger hand

[fresh cobalt]

Guys how do I beat the stage with dusk in is6

[crystal niche]

just... beat it?

dusk doesn't do anything herself

no special gimmick

[faint rampart]

【【四人无藏·紧急青山不语】这是无藏最高的“山”-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/o41ihEk

[fresh cobalt]

So that was just a skill issue moment for me

[faint rampart]

can watch the relicless clear if that helps

considering the stage is done by exu2 hoshi2 trag raidian.... pretty normal squad for is6

[bronze bone]

What Raidian IS Module do you guys use now ?

[ember hemlock]

idk why sakichan was 0 dp cost but I'm not complaining

[ember hemlock]

idk what situation you'd want raidian herself to be buffed over her summons
low deployment count?

[royal holly]

No... Please no.....

[crystal niche]

hmmmm

[rich thorn]

[crystal niche]

I'm having trouble picking people to send to the ed4 boss

when i want to rob shop

[ember hemlock]

what is that

[errant siren]

Upon killing Sui Leg

[rich thorn]

ed2 relic

[errant siren]

It changes the effect

To "Random op will have 0 DP when battle starts, changes the Ending"

[ember hemlock]

[rich thorn]

fun thing, with it and some relics combo you can make exu2 0dp 0rdp

and clear full stage

with 1 op

[ember hemlock]

imagine exialt cracked up on 0dp 0rdp with 500 aspd on skill from ingot relic and -40% sp cost auto activation tongbao

[rich thorn]

souds like yato2 on steroids with range

[ember hemlock]

[sly harness]

One Shadow Squad starts with a Wu-Shang Shuttle

[rich thorn]

and another with stir fry and always promote 5* on recruit

[sinful sparrow]

u need to explode

🫃

[sly harness]

It also restores 2 LPs after each battle

[rich thorn]

how broken

just find unclouded

[remote badger]

how 🫃

[bronze bone]

Which one is the best ?

Yin ?

[rich thorn]

yin in general

stove or rule for tianshi

stove gives you bonus 2 tongbao based options in retrieve nodes
flask gives same as raidian effect on legend restore lp node
rule gives bonus option in tavern node, what costs 0 resources, but has a fixed lineup, and can be used one more time for additional candle

[cunning siren]

hi chat amiya doesnt have a second phase does she

i thought I'm done here, and like i couldnt deploy any ops anyway

[rich thorn]

you dead

[cunning siren]

yeah i died

i did kill amiya though

[rich thorn]

on map 3 she have mechanic, what she slowly starts filling map with tiles

someone said you can reset that by pushing her, but idk how it works actually

for me thats basically a dps race, kill or be killed

[cunning siren]

[rich thorn]

from is central guide

[cunning siren]

is this egg level 3 specific shenanigans

[rich thorn]

nah

[cunning siren]

oh you have to burst her down 2 times?

[rich thorn]

trld, stall her too much - she uses tile ban

shift her - she resets tile ban

[rich thorn]

yep

[cunning siren]

oh okay that makes sense

[rich thorn]

thats t1 egg thing too

t3 is what egg says, and 1 additional red bar boss

[cunning siren]

okay noted

[rich thorn]

0 changes in amimi by herself

[sly harness]

Incorrect

It is not about shifting or pushing

You just need to "phase her" (change her phase; finish her first HP bar) after she starts using the skill. This restarts her SP

[rich thorn]

hm, where then I saw the line - push her with gravel deploy

anyways, noted

@sly harness ironically, I cant understand unclouded loop too

but its something with special bosky f6

[crystal niche]

so what's the plan for fighting ed4 is6

[sly harness]

Scale and win

[crystal niche]

do i just kill the little guy then kill the big guy?

[rich thorn]

yes

either cc or block him

after 50% he is block 4

[crystal niche]

i have matterhorn it's fine

[rich thorn]

after that or some time big cow looses invisibility

[crystal niche]

i'm just thinking if he will die or not

[rich thorn]

so its just dps check

[crystal niche]

the little guy doesn't do much dmg?

[rich thorn]

he deals pretty good portion of dmg

but its not true one

[crystal niche]

i have haruka?

[rich thorn]

should be fine

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

but when he dies he does stage dmg

[crystal niche]

what

oh like patriot?

the guys from the right side are nothing right?

don't tell me there are feramuts

[rich thorn]

yes

they are

here

[crystal niche]

right side?

[rich thorn]

both

[crystal niche]

wtf

[rich thorn]

left is from statuegists

right natural spawn

[crystal niche]

HUH

THOSE STATUES SPAWNS FERAMUTS?

[rich thorn]

yep

and cow spawns statues too

[crystal niche]

how tf am i supposed to block the little guy on the left side

[rich thorn]

[crystal niche]

if there are feranmuts there

[rich thorn]

they are not spawned instantly

its like

uh

[crystal niche]

do they not move?

[rich thorn]

after token does 3 or 4 cirlces about rightmost platforms and moves closer to cow?

[sly harness]

Actually how relicless does that?

Maybe you just kill them

[crystal niche]

wtf is token

[rich thorn]

or trag s3

[crystal niche]

the little boss?

[rich thorn]

cuz pseudomuts cant kill cages

but blocked by them while flying

[rich thorn]

yes

idk how you would call it

cuz cow is a cow

[crystal niche]

i just call them little boss and big boss

[crystal niche]

[earnest shuttle]

token ?

[rich thorn]

idk, tentacle thing is worse name for him

[crystal niche]

wait we can kill the statues on the left right

[sly harness]

Yep just kill them

[rich thorn]

yes

hm

and trag s1

[crystal niche]

whats the thing like the cow do that reduces aspd

i remember someone talking about that

[rich thorn]

wow

trag + cheetos strat

[crystal niche]

teleports to the next checkpoint. Friendly units facing the opposite direction of Hou's movement have -50% ASPD for 30s while enemies moving in the same direction gain +200% Movespeed for 30s

wtf is this

[rich thorn]

?

[earnest shuttle]

debuff

[crystal niche]

what does facing the opposite direction of hous movement mean

[rich thorn]

cow moves up and down

[crystal niche]

he can only go up and down right

[earnest shuttle]

yeah in a circle

[crystal niche]

but what if my ops are facing left or right

[rich thorn]

thats ju

not hou

[crystal niche]

?

[rich thorn]

nothing happens to them

[crystal niche]

wait the little boss will go to the left right?

[earnest shuttle]

so its kinda like the magnet ball from rhine lab
(for enemies)

[crystal niche]

why is he just circling the right

[earnest shuttle]

yea after a few circle it will go to the left

[sly harness]

I believe knowing those mechanisms is completely meaningless. At least for now

[crystal niche]

why

[rich thorn]

because you just nuke token

[sly harness]

And then the boss

[earnest shuttle]

eventually someone gonna ask, why is this happening to me

[sly harness]

With 1 Saki skill

[earnest shuttle]

[sly harness]

Like the only important thing is having a counter to the small guy DR

[crystal niche]

well true but saki is kinda my only dps lol that i brought

[rich thorn]

but hey, could die 1-2 first time

on cow

[sly harness]

It isn't a problem

[rich thorn]

while low rolling

or 0 knowledge about how token works

[crystal niche]

oh wow yayyy

the cow died

[earnest shuttle]

[crystal niche]

-1 lp

not bad

[rich thorn]

have more chances to die on mount and sea

🚬

[sly harness]

I died only ones because I had only 1 LP and I wasn't ready to lane hold the dragons

[crystal niche]

true i died on that last run

[rich thorn]

still didnt saw EM ver

🥹

[crystal niche]

does bloodshed effect bosses

no right

[sly harness]

Ofc it does

[rich thorn]

stooopid tongbao

remove pls

[crystal niche]

WHAT

oh wow

that's why the boss felt so

squishy

That's actually insane

[rich thorn]

good match is good too

but not broken like bloodshed

🚬

[crystal niche]

what's that

[oblique carbon]

is it possible to get the 'after the story ends' encounter after the first floor?

[crystal niche]

the effect

i meant

[crystal niche]

oh that

[rich thorn]

but ye

bloodshed is stupid op

[crystal niche]

there are many relics tho that buff atk

so it isn't as op as bloodshed

[rich thorn]

with harder difficulty, the worse advantage of it

[rich thorn]

just play tourists

5 tongbao tossed

🚬

[crystal niche]

well i play flower

infinite tosses

[rich thorn]

d15

[crystal niche]

uhhh

d10 player

[rich thorn]

damn, not even d12

for completion marks

[crystal niche]

just because i've unlocked d15 with yi

doesn't mean i'm doing it with other bosses

[sly harness]

You can get it on floors 1-4

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

anyways

even d14 is pretty easy

[oblique carbon]

okay so i'm not cooked just yet

[sly harness]

But why is it important?

[crystal niche]

sure if i'm fighting yi

[sly harness]

It is usually considered a bad node

[rich thorn]

d15 just ramps a lil bit with +1 hope and burn on talismans

[crystal niche]

burn on talismans almost killed my run so

[oblique carbon]

just doing blueprint squad to grind the battle pass

[sly harness]

7 Hope for 6* is a base amount

[rich thorn]

its not a fucking is3

[crystal niche]

i'm a bit afraid of that

[rich thorn]

🚬

[rich thorn]

🫃

[crystal niche]

well in is3 i haven't even gone to d10

[rich thorn]

yeye, and 3 plans for vertical travel is a base thing in is5

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

[crystal niche]

also out of nothingness is ed4 right

[rich thorn]

yes

[crystal niche]

soo uhh

why haven't i unlocked the second module

I mean i will never use it but like

why is it not unlocked

[rich thorn]

check what it wants from you

[crystal niche]

mod 1 just wants me to clear ed4 on d2 or above

they only need raidian on lvl 2 and 3

so i should have mod lvl 1 unlocked

[rich thorn]

can you send screenshot?

[oblique carbon]

how's raidian in is5

[rich thorn]

not used

[oblique carbon]

aw man

[rich thorn]

you maybe can take her on low diff with that relic what makes summons eat 0 deploy slots

but she is not so impressive as in is6 because mastery difference

[sly harness]

Raidian is good in IS6 because she has an entire skill tree that buffs her there

In other ISes she is a summoner without any module even (her modules are IS6 specific too)

[crystal niche]

i realised that when i got out the run didn't go to the end yet lol

i got it

[outer cliff]

Raidian module x pls

[rich thorn]

no

we need more is modules for limited ops

so people would justify sparking old limiteds like W

[sly harness]

IS modules for welfares

Make Vigil meta

(I mean he already kinda is usable in dlc2)

[naive creek]

(IS4) Heyo, can I get Treescar Helm (making me fight the fuckass running boss) while having the Boundless Gift (teleporting boss) at the same time??
Would it be like getting the knight and then the following jellyfish in is3

[rich thorn]

yes, you can get both

[naive creek]

is there like an extra reward or something in the final count

[rich thorn]

just need to path into boundless gift before f5

cuz it cant spawn that node

[steel relic]

No

[rich thorn]

you can even jump into ed4

[steel relic]

You get like 10 extra score or whatever one relic of worth

[rich thorn]

from ed3

[naive creek]

yeah i got ed4 first LOL

[rich thorn]

but its risky

[oblique carbon]

just did a blueprint squad run and somehow got to the ending fight without a single recruited operator

is this supposed to happen

[errant siren]

Extra pain if you're masochistic enough.

[rich thorn]

nah, I mean, you can kill all 3 bosses

in a single run

[errant siren]

Yes if you competely skipped all the battles.

[naive creek]

probs not worth the score

[rich thorn]

but you need to get encounter node on f6 before crazyliseon

while having that 1 ignot relic

its just, challenge for yourself

[oblique carbon]

this might be the most unfun cheese strat in any rougelite i've ever played

[errant siren]

[oblique carbon]

i'm going back to ingot + lamp

[rich thorn]

same as d18 245 t3 wis ban

🫃

[crystal niche]

that's...

even more broken but not braindead

[rich thorn]

ignot + lamp is real, but ass

you just, not refreshing too much

[oblique carbon]

it's not really that i want difficulty in my run

[cobalt loom]

which 4 stars were chinese again?

[rich thorn]

yan?

[oblique carbon]

but the fact that this can happen at all just pmo

[cobalt loom]

count as yanese for the purpose of those nodes that need them

[rich thorn]

nuh uh, I was faster

[cursive verge]

My network

[rich thorn]

skill issue

[crystal niche]

what's the real use of phantom, is it him himself or the shadow

[rich thorn]

on him

stacking atk with clone redeploys

[crystal niche]

eveythime clone redeploys he gains atk

but what if he was redeployed? is that atk stacking still with him?

[naive creek]

whos the best guard pick for is4? (assume that i have all ops)

[steel relic]

Degenbrecher

[naive creek]

[steel relic]

It resets

Atk stacking is from s2 not the shadow

And he loses all stacks when redeploying

[crystal niche]

isn't his job to be a FRD dmg dealer

[steel relic]

Sometimes it’s funny to let him sit there with 20k atk and smite anything that gets near

[gaunt bay]

Degen is old news bro

[steel relic]

Is4 is old news

[gaunt bay]

Ur better off drafting zuo or mly

At least they do something unique

[crystal niche]

so his actual job in IS is to be an executioner at one point of the map?

[steel relic]

His job is whatever you want it’s a free country

[gaunt bay]

Well he does more beyond that

But that in particular is a very strong usecase for him especially in low relic count context

[crystal niche]

wait he reduces his own redeploy time when attacking?

so if he attacks enough he could have 0 downtime?

[sly harness]

Yes

[frail hearth]

guys, any tips for is 6?

i haven't do it yet

[cursive verge]

Guide in pins

[remote badger]

pins please

[sly harness]

The tldr would be clear d2 and then learn how to use Raidian (until you max your Raidian play with "Special Squad")

[remote badger]

if ur acc is well

developed

u can go for stuffs like d15+

for fun :)

[cursive verge]

• on dlc2 drop

[twilit heath]

Could someone tell me how to farm IS5 rewards quickly

Someone had told me

How to

[remote badger]

blueprint

if u want to be braindead just wis

else

pins

also pins for certain explanations on stuffs

[frail hearth]

cannot find it..

[remote badger]

wuh

[sly harness]

From the "Fated Encounters" that is very likely to spawn on f1 pick "Lamp of Wishes" and then refresh every fight into noncombat node

Skipping every fight allows you to clear a run in 10-15 minutes for ~1200 points

[crystal niche]

and then they remember that all their units are e1 cause they didn't do any fights

[cursive verge]

Missing arrows

[twilit heath]

@remote badger the general guide from here ?

[crystal niche]

missing animation that makes the adhd people look

[sly harness]

You have scout nodes and shops...

Also with the power of Lamp you just clear ed1 with e1 units

[crystal niche]

if they know ed1 gimmick sure, but some peeps with only 3 ops will be shocked after phase 1

[cursive verge]

Imagine someone refreshes scout node cuz unaware

[sly harness]

They will die and learn, surely

[remote umbra]

Does Yu s2 is able to group Wang balls in IS6 ED3?
I imagine it either:
-doesnt group them
-groups them all in 1 spot and kills the operators
-groups them in 1 spot and yu defeats the balls

[remote badger]

no

those balls r summons

[torn mica]

That is why you take the guaranteed scout node on floor 2 to E2 your strongest dps, usually Wis'adel. If you take the ingot squad you can just promote from shop provided you have hope on you. Either from lvling due to Face Off nodes in Bosky or taking a few fights on purpose.

[crystal niche]

that's.... not really a thing i needed to hear but sure

I don't even use bp or ingot, I use the extra hope and ingots

[compact gull]

Hell yeah

[craggy shadow]

is silverash alter good enough to be first recruit carry in IS

[remote badger]

no ig

vgless gaming still possible

[void root]

10 stacks of drum 🫃

Sash2 just nanji every 3s

[faint rampart]

wtf lowroll😢

[void root]

[rich thorn]

true

low roll for flower squad on d10

[sonic sable]

Sengourchkadhtxhh s1 or s2 mastery?

[craggy shadow]

I think I uhh

I like uhmmm

I like IS4

[faint rampart]

then start sgl3

[earnest shuttle]

s2

s1 if you are planning to use her in IS, which is not recommended at all

[crystal niche]

wow a talisman latched onto the blue box

[cursive verge]

Frozen blue box?

[gaunt bay]

True

[rich thorn]

make some new joke pls

🥹

[craggy shadow]

well it's not a joke

so

[rich thorn]

but its repeated at min 5 times

better say
so
uh
I hate is3
is3 sucks

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

and you summon john highroller in chat

[steel relic]

Furrilo would agree with you though

[craggy shadow]

I hate IS3

[rich thorn]

based

[remote umbra]

This Diff10 ED3 attempt went as badly as it could.
At the end of floor4 i enter the garden with 15 steps for the 1st time to search for the boardgame.
Realize i messed up by not spending a Light voucher on a 4star making it 4/5 candle holders.
On the shop before ED1 boss i finally get my 1st healer voucher + free promotion trinket

[errant siren]

scream in mongolian if you love IS4

https://tenor.com/view/stargate-mongolian-gun-party-gif-22557574

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1371424666148667392/R21TDRW726S6IIO9C5.gif

[nova vigil]

someone told me in is6, two operation nodes is better than one operation one emergency ops

is that true

[rich thorn]

ugh

you mean 2 normal battles >>> 1 normal 1 EM?

[rich thorn]

if yes, thats not true, em usually better than normal cuz bonus relic

[lusty mesa]

[nova vigil]

i see

[woeful knot]

two vanguards is not a good combo

[lusty mesa]

its a upgraded ticket still i gotta pick someone

nvm this wasnt qn worthy

[paper lantern]

any advice on how to beat Izumik IS3 Ending 4?

[grand wraith]

which skill should raidian be on for this

[rich thorn]

depends, ines + sa2 are fine combo

[remote umbra]

Here mostly s3.
You could also get away with using s2 if you had stronger ranged dps (wisadel/lapper, exu2).
Its just the yinyang ghosts are going to explode your summons a lot

[rich thorn]

dp generation + cost lowering

tons of cc

bagpipe fine too cuz sp bonus

if you gonna think about using sa2 s3

[grand wraith]

i may have ended my run by pathing here, its a red node

[rich thorn]

maybe

[remote umbra]

Then its even worse

[rich thorn]

but thats because no tanks to stall dragon

[lusty mesa]

i forgot abt ines oops

[grand wraith]

i can compensate by deploying a lot of units tho, i havr the collectible for raidian summons to not take up deployment space

[rich thorn]

s3 would still better choice for her

[cursive verge]

Whoever told you that is a noob, its what they do to avoid EMs lol

[rich thorn]

but idk about sa2 s2 here

with that pick

all ops are pretty dp cost low

maybe s3 would be better for fragile?

[remote badger]

1 em 1 nm > 2 nm

[grand wraith]

i can play s3..?

[nova vigil]

the internet lied to me.

[remote badger]

the benefits r well known

[remote badger]

at least not here

[grand wraith]

i have pram alter as well but she is e1

[remote badger]

however there are certain exceptions

[rich thorn]

swap her for ethan

this stage have bomb ghosts, so dont think he is a good idea here

[grand wraith]

hm alright

[remote badger]

if:
ur about to die and the em is kinda hard

[rich thorn]

pram on the other hand get bonuses from sa2 2nd talent

[remote badger]

or ur ops r not powerfull or unskilled

[grand wraith]

e1 pram alter or e1 typhon

[rich thorn]

pram

but you could explode anyways

best solution for me at least hoshi2 on s2

and support her with raidian s3/other dps

[grand wraith]

can i just explode them with sakichan

i kinda forgot how this stage worked

[rich thorn]

https://tomimi.dev/en/stages/ISW-NO_Green_Hills_Speak_Not

[cursive verge]

Doesnt raidian kinda solo this map

[remote badger]

low diff

[cursive verge]

[remote badger]

kind of

[cursive verge]

I saw someone do it on d12

[grand wraith]

its red node and i dont have proficiencies

its d2

[cursive verge]

Surely this is below d10

[remote badger]

i can see the faint gray icon

[cursive verge]

Uh

[remote badger]

below squad icon

[cursive verge]

Yeah probably not happening then

[rich thorn]

jokes aside, if no knowledge about map = easy explode

even on low diff

[rich thorn]

[remote badger]

clueless

[grand wraith]

can i just explode it with sakichan and break its shield

[remote badger]

its low diff

here comes the word whatever

[sly harness]

This is the IS6 highroll (more than 5/6 Turmoils)

[nova vigil]

I call this the 007 strategy

No money, no hope it's super realistic

[gaunt bay]

meow

[remote badger]

meow

[remote badger]

looks like a question mark

[remote umbra]

Tbh i never got the hang of Radiant S3. Always used S2.

[rich thorn]

s1 is good too

tanky summons, block3 for cars in turmoils

[remote badger]

basically

all of them r useable

[grand wraith]

how much lp do i lose if the dragon leaks

[remote badger]

(raidian skills)

[remote badger]

2

[rich thorn]

5?

[grand wraith]

well i guess im about to find out

[rich thorn]

anyways, not gonna die from him

[remote badger]

tomini said 2

[grand wraith]

nvm saki fever saved me

[remote umbra]

1st time i did this stage i thought Ling was an enemy and tried to put a dps to the right of her. (It imediately died bcs the dragon spawned)

[grand wraith]

[faint rampart]

dusk

[steel relic]

[crystal niche]

ling?

[cunning karma]

[crystal niche]

[remote umbra]

Idk, i only got Yu from the dragons and never did other Shu events

[arctic panther]

shu events??? 😭

[silk crypt]

IS STATION. I REQUIRE ASSISTANCE

I am going to do ED2

This could be the end of my torture.

[crystal niche]

why do you have eyja alter and monst3r

[rich thorn]

and no exu2

[silk crypt]

Complete lack of Specialist vouchers

[crystal niche]

bro is playing casterknights

[silk crypt]

Excess of medic vouchers

[rich thorn]

but you got ascalon e2

😭

[silk crypt]

What, is she not important for multi-hitting invitation to wine enemies?

[crystal niche]

not really

ethan or any other hitcount would work

[rich thorn]

bro could easily do -17 lp strat

[crystal niche]

or do that

[arctic panther]

exu is (almost) always the first draft with spec vouchers

[crystal niche]

also is that tianshi squad

[rich thorn]

no

thats sui regulator

[crystal niche]

oh that one

[faint rampart]

is this eben-hool ed2 clear

[crystal niche]

very questionable drafts

[silk crypt]

I still need to DPS the fuckin leg

[crystal niche]

and exu2 would've done that

[faint rampart]

+helidrop eyja 2026

[crystal niche]

[silk crypt]

I WAS SWIMMING IN CASTER VOUCHERS SORGY

[silk crypt]

Not my fault I'm not given specialist tokens

[faint rampart]

its okay
+99 likes for having eben on team

[silk crypt]

Actually picked her up in the last 2 nodes that gave me, you guessed it, 2 caster vouchers

[arctic panther]

then wheres your pram

[crystal niche]

I don't think

[faint rampart]

🤢

[silk crypt]

The pulls weren't kind to me

[crystal niche]

yea

[earnest shuttle]

beating ed2 on a budget

[crystal niche]

but another question is

25 relics?

[earnest shuttle]

d10

:willemdafoe:

[crystal niche]

did bro not do the bosky

[silk crypt]

what bosky

wh

[faint rampart]

sui consciousness something

[crystal niche]

suis conciousness

[silk crypt]

"I hope I get either of these absurdly strong units on this limited banner! I'm on a budget and can't spare many pulls"
The 6* Arknights graces me with:

[silk crypt]

I did a bunch of fights there yes

Didn't Full Clear it though

[faint rampart]

can eben s2 Ghosts bait the foot

[crystal niche]

are they summons that are targetable?

[earnest shuttle]

sui's remnant of consciousness

[faint rampart]

idk

[crystal niche]

sooo did u beat it

[silk crypt]

ED2? Not yet

I left my phone charging while I discuss with you what I should bring for the squad

I think squad limit is at 8 or 9

[crystal niche]

ok then who is ur main dmg dealer for foot

[silk crypt]

Instead, I get bullied for having caster tokens instead of specialist

[faint rampart]

damn chongyue is there too

[silk crypt]

Probably a mix of Everyone? Chongyue has jacked attack thanks to relics, Hoshi2 does good damage

But otherwise I have no Dedicated Nuker

[crystal niche]

who deals with the right and left

[faint rampart]

wher your leizi2 entel saki

[silk crypt]

I usually leave Ascalon to handle left side, I don't know if she'll be able to, after last time I tried she failed to kill the ITW enemies

[gaunt bay]

head hurty :c

[remote badger]

wha

is it a headache

[gaunt bay]

yea

[silk crypt]

I often put summons in front of the incursion point on right side, to summon the leg there and nuke it

[gaunt bay]

starving and headahc

bleh

[remote badger]

in middle lane

please

[crystal niche]

if you put leg on right, how will u deal with the middle

[silk crypt]

IDK! It worked the first time

[crystal niche]

was the first time d10?

[earnest shuttle]

it worked on low diff if thats what u meant

[silk crypt]

I don't know how, but it worked that time

[crystal niche]

except at that time you had both ray and walter

[silk crypt]

Don't even know how many things change at d10