is-station

[cunning talon]

Oh damn

It’s different if you were going for ed4? I need to check it rq then

[west quarry]

yes

ed1 is also different

[cunning talon]

So that’s why the ed1-a

[west quarry]

yeys

alter

[cunning talon]

Thanks then
Might also try it out

[bronze vale]

Are you kidding me? I only have tragodia silverash and Chen alter😭

[quick steppe]

did we like

skip the f6 bosky

or

[inland elbow]

only 54 relics is crazy

[bronze vale]

Okay im dead man what the hell is that boss

[arctic panther]

free if you dont skip f6 bosky

[odd rose]

is this worth it?

[quick steppe]

no

[outer cliff]

Do u have it unlocked in the bestiary

[bronze vale]

Boi if i have exu2 that boss Will be a breeze(maybe)

[inland elbow]

take wavebreaker

not bedrock

wavebreak is super broken

makes vanguard yato 2s redeploy

[west quarry]

you need cc

for that boss

it has 90% dr if not cc'd

[bronze vale]

I have tragodia so that should be enough

I just need more damage

[muted jewel]

Is there a way to tell what was the previous run squad?

[past garden]

All the guides I'm seeing say casters suck in IS... whatever number Sui is, but... Pramanix seems good?

[muted jewel]

"all casters suck"
"Lappland the Fuck you"

[brazen bane]

[brazen bane]

Yes the guide was written before her

Pick her

https://tenor.com/view/pramanix-gif-17514296915217368826

[past garden]

I assume Schwing2.0 is good too? Or no?

[muted jewel]

How good is she against scroll of "YOU FUCK" stage

[past garden]

I realistically just want to finally bother to get Raidian unlocked... Otherwise I'd just play it and learn it at my leisure like usual. Really not sure I like that about this one.

[brazen bane]

Yes

It's enough to make Kjerag mafia a valid draft

[brazen bane]

Hool is obviously still better against ed4 specifically
But Prama2 is good enroute against basically anything

[muted jewel]

Mumu can make every operator use countergambit within 20 sec

[past garden]

Yeah, I picked Prama on a run (low difficulty, to be fair) and she seemed solid.

I didn't know her S1 was good for hitcount. I keep being nervous on those stupid hitcount stages with the little pottery spawn things. I seem to fake it well enough with Phantom alter, but still... Would be nice to have like Ethan S1 or I forget her name, the 6 star Ethan. If Pram can solve that problem too though with S1...

[brazen bane]

Ascalon

[steel relic]

no that's Ulpianus

[past garden]

If I'm not taking specialist squad for the reserve ops, who is the best guard pick besides Windscoot?

Humus?

[cunning karma]

Luo Xiaohei

[past garden]

I don't even know who that is...

[remote cradle]

Are the new units good at IS6?

D12

[nocturne cape]

yes

both are

[remote cradle]

Like exusiai alter good?

[nocturne cape]

id say they are good in different ways

[remote cradle]

Ok that means they are not good for me

[nocturne cape]

is this mika's guide

[faint rampart]

yeah

[nocturne cape]

S2 is better for exemplary service

🥹

[faint rampart]

maybe that needs correction idk
just had to bring up mika's guide incase they were following some different shady guide

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1483023372039356427/13OVP3E6BSBOCJ9ZXT3V.gif

[brazen bane]

Bruh

[past garden]

Wait, Pramanix can make it so enemies have to attack the blue box to get through? rofl

[remote badger]

the ice block stat r basically nothing

[past garden]

Makes sense, but still funny

[brazen bane]

Unless they can stun the blue box

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[sinful sparrow]

deadass?

in my defense i just had experience with pram s1 being bonkers for beyond mount and seas

[arctic panther]

this needs to be a gif

[gaunt bay]

how broken is pram

[cold fern]

what is the fastest way to know whether my current run has ling node or no

or should i just abandon the run when the first leisure is not ling?

[faint rampart]

[muted jewel]

I hate that I can get a consistent Scroll of scars run now thanks to having to use support exu alter

S2 is now M2

[arctic panther]

check all leisure nodes as soon as possible

[muted jewel]

One more fucking run
holy shit...

[arctic panther]

why do you hate that

[muted jewel]

BECAUSE ITS RNG BULLSHIT TO GET THE FUCKING ITEM FOR SCROLL OF SCARS

[arctic panther]

you just said it was consistent 😭

and you can actually see the ed2 node now

[muted jewel]

ONLY NOW

[muted jewel]

NO?

[arctic panther]

decision node

[muted jewel]

NOPE

BECAUSE ITS LABELED DIFFERENT DOSENT HELP

[arctic panther]

it used to just be an encounter

[arctic panther]

legend

[muted jewel]

YOU STILL NEED TO GAMBLE THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN DREAM REALM TO GET TO SAID DECISION NODE

[arctic panther]

whatever the fuck its called in bosky

[muted jewel]

Scroll of scars sucks fat dick and get brain damage whoever came up with M2 challenge

[faint rampart]

:lappphone:

[remote badger]

i can sense skill issues

[gaunt bay]

i can meow

[remote badger]

meow

[flint token]

fuck is the m2 challenge

[remote badger]

beta mod is fine

[flint token]

also lowk i think i might be doing ed2a wrong

[remote badger]

must've been the winds

(the requirements)

[brazen bane]

Just be consistent in clearing bosky combat

You will find Decision in every run

[flint token]

Holy fucking shit

i didnt expect the ed4 bosses to die so fast

Ju got mauled in fucking seconds

[inland elbow]

ed4 known jobber stage

[brazen bane]

Many such cases

[ember hemlock]

what does horizon invitation do in jonklermarkar
like which ending

[remote badger]

ed4

[ember hemlock]

yolo thanks

[steel relic]

Jonkler

[flint token]

Logos show up and tell you to eat sand

[brazen bane]

It's coarse and rough and gets everywhere

[stiff crest]

wao

[past garden]

Of all the good IS6 picks, I swear Wizadel has to be the worst one before E2.

[crystal niche]

nah there are worse before e2

like ray or lemuen

actually wisadel e2 can fuck you up with ed2

[past garden]

I don't even have Ray... One of the like... two 6 stars I don't have

[crystal niche]

and her s3 isn't all that impactful

[crystal niche]

what's the other one

[past garden]

Not even sure, would have to look at a full list 😛

[crystal niche]

[past garden]

Thare are so many ops in this game I can't even keep the names straight

[muted jewel]

Silver ash alter with auto use skill risk coin

WHAT THE FUCK IS A DP ECONOMYYYYYYYYYYYY

[brazen bane]

DP is there to give you 99 dp buffs

[muted jewel]

SILVERASH IS SCHWINGING THE DP COST AWAY

[remote badger]

just strip out the ones that aren't useful at all

[past garden]

Finally, Raidian E2. Probably gonna take a break for a while now. Was just sick of the red dot on the quest xp for her ;P

[muted jewel]

Finally got raidian skills to M2
Now i can M3 them because the M3 challenges are 10x easier

[desert brook]

do you spend more hope to grow this bamboo

[brazen bane]

not worth it

[desert brook]

is it like 20 hope to max it? lol

[crystal niche]

you aren't guarenteed to get the upgrade even if you spend 2 hope iirc

[desert brook]

that is crazy

[brazen bane]

allat just to still rely on piss tile is crazy

[sick mason]

Stir-fry is much better and easier to upgrade than that crap

[arctic sandal]

whats one niche operator thats surprisingly good for IS

im bored

[brazen bane]

a lot of ops with IS specialized modules are like that

Mizuki, Angelina

Cheeto to a certain extent

Gnosis

[vagrant tiger]

Imagine if you get enough SP gen to use it every second it’s available

[arctic sandal]

what does gnosis is module do again?

[vagrant tiger]

You’ve heard of true silverslash, now you have Blue Silverash slash

[brazen bane]

deals dot against cold/frozen units

deals scaling fragile against cold/frozen units

all Kjerag units inflict cold on skill use

[desert brook]

damn i should get gnosis IS module but i have 0 blocks

[arctic sandal]

oh wait i should try gnosis once i finish building SAalter

[brazen bane]

Swire alter

she scales with money

[arctic sandal]

wait WHAT?

[crystal niche]

[arctic sandal]

aw chuds i dont have swire alter tho and its lowkey impossible to use support units when its max difficulty for is6

[brazen bane]

its okay at least she isnt limited you will get her some day

[arctic sandal]

thats one off-banner that i'll be looking forward too ig

[tidal raptor]

How good is degenbrecher?

I got jumpscared with her in temp recruitment

[arctic sandal]

she's decently good but probably not a strong starting operator

i think u can pair her with the other kjerag operators for some synergy if your interested in that

[tidal raptor]

I have sash and pram2

What skill would be great?

[nocturne cape]

sash vanguard or

og

[arctic sandal]

i havent really built SAalter yet but pram alter S2 or S3 are both really good

[tidal raptor]

Og

[nocturne cape]

prio Pram's S2

the og silverash uses S3

[tidal raptor]

I already promoted her

[nocturne cape]

yes

still on S2

[remote badger]

s2

[tidal raptor]

Wait I meant which I best skill for degen

[remote badger]

3 on e2

[nocturne cape]

unless you're playing bosky or needs occasional helidrop

[remote badger]

2 pre e2

[tidal raptor]

Then I’m set!

[nocturne cape]

S3 doesnt necessarily mean its better

[tidal raptor]

I’ll use s3 as she came e2d

[remote badger]

or be like that

[nocturne cape]

although it can be powerful somtimes

[tidal raptor]

Thanks for your help tall!

Yall*

[crystal niche]

do yall reccomend getting the wang doubt early or no

get it on like f4?

[nocturne cape]

if youre going ed3 you should grab it at around f3 or f4

[crystal niche]

[frozen tangle]

Whats the fastest and easiest way to clear the new IS per guided tour?

[errant siren]

Raidian + any SixStar

Like Trag, Wis, ExuAlt

[sick mason]

Would this work when Pram alt's snow tiles hit enemies

[errant siren]

Should.

[crystal niche]

it works when they come in atleast

[remote badger]

per guided tour is a very hard question

[crystal niche]

idk if they come out and the snow tile dissapears it works, but the first instance of dmg when they come in works

[tidal raptor]

Im lost here. I got caerula memory and lost all my light and then got caerula arbor. Why is the boss fight high more?

[remote badger]

kill highmorb

then u will enter f6

which is ed4 in particular

[brazen bane]

Ending 3 and up will always be f6+

[errant siren]

Because End3 and End4 Final Bosses meet you in the Floor 6.

NOT 5TH.

You still have to beat standard boss first.

[brazen bane]

This is good because you get more relics

[crystal niche]

oh wait

f6 for wang ed has shop right?

[brazen bane]

As of dlc1 yes

[crystal niche]

i almost robbed on f4

[sick mason]

SA2 + lightning rod is absurd damn

S2 spam goes crazy

[tidal raptor]

Oh frick. Thanks for the help!

[tidal raptor]

Thanks for the help too!

[muted jewel]

Had that happen
Get sp regen items

[vagrant tiger]

Oh that must have been goofy as hell

[muted jewel]

Welcome back 2020 silverash

[vagrant tiger]

Silverash experience

[remote badger]

almost mistaked it as a scam

[cunning karma]

omg it's MRBEAST

[tidal raptor]

Is degenbrecher melting bosses something we glossed over?

She curbstomped highmore

[paper notch]

what difficulty is this?

sankta miksa curbstomps highmorb at lower difficulties but they need help at higher ones

[spring sluice]

hey guys whats this

[remote badger]

is station

[spring sluice]

sorry hold on my discord client broke

i was bout to send images

[tidal raptor]

Level 2

[spring sluice]

here

[paper notch]

yee she probably does enough damage to almost one shot

[remote badger]

should be fine

if skilled

[errant siren]

• Enfocre Battle
• Enforce an EMERGENCY Battle
• Leave with nothing

[brazen bane]

Run was blessed by Kjeragandr

[crystal niche]

[errant siren]

Map is ISW-SP "Calamitous Punishment".

[crystal niche]

you still play flower at d15

[brazen bane]

It's still good

Just find interdependent

[crystal niche]

ehem

[tidal raptor]

is is6 so complicated? like is3 is tic tac toe compared to this

[quick steppe]

old is simpler than new yes

[tidal raptor]

But it’s just 3 away

[crystal niche]

and it's like years apart

[sick mason]

Can't say how "complicated" it is

[quick steppe]

also d18 for is3 is still

possibly harder

[sick mason]

But its much friendlier in hope economy than previous IS-es beneath IS5

[quick steppe]

esp if you have restrictions for is6

[quiet nova]

gng i just got him in temp recruit

[quick steppe]

d18 is3 the real thinking man’s game

is what bait would say

probably

[sick mason]

Ofc it has to be IS3

[quick steppe]

cure and evolve him tbh

[crystal niche]

what's this debuff again

[sick mason]

Could've add RES too

[quick steppe]

half of everything

[sick mason]

So that he would be the most broken faction buffer

[quick steppe]

which is lowkey not the worst

[crystal niche]

bruh if res that would be too op

[quick steppe]

since trag utility is cc anyway

[sick mason]

I mean who's the most OP faction buffer atp

Shu (Sui siblings)? Gladiia with mod X (Abyssal hunters)?

[quick steppe]

shu probably

[crystal niche]

def shu prob

[quick steppe]

talent carried 3 bums to a cc finish

even if they got optimized out

[crystal niche]

with wang it's gonna be more op

[quick steppe]

one less bum

[brazen bane]

More like with Wang they have less bum

[quick steppe]

two goats an okay operator and then a 4th bum

[sick mason]

I always carried Chongyue, Ling, Shu and Yu nowadays

But Ling is the most unused one

[nocturne cape]

Yu Wang Shu Nian 0 bum trust

[crystal niche]

3 defenders while one nukes the whole map

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

[sick mason]

One is spamming fists

One is just relaxing while her dragons doing their job

[nocturne cape]

Nian can give the defenders HP just by being in the squad so thats nice too

[sinful sparrow]

shut the fuck up

[sick mason]

Wonder what Jun, Ji, Yi and Fang's kit would be

[brazen bane]

Ji new age merchant

[sick mason]

Or perhaps Ji could be... in the same subclass as Hadiya

[brazen bane]

Merchant 2

[quick steppe]

fang is some kind of medic 100%

[brazen bane]

Idk guard just doesn't fit his vibe though

[sick mason]

At least they give us time to produce DP and can strengthen whenever we want

[muted jewel]

SCHWING

[brazen bane]

Yi would be artificer

[sick mason]

Unlike merchant specialists that always consume 3 DP every 3 damn seconds (2 with mod X)

[brazen bane]

2

[quick steppe]

alchemist even

I mean if you look at weapon choice ji has the wu Shang shuttle

probably melee…

[brazen bane]

How tf is he gonna kill anyone with a shuttle

[sick mason]

I wonder will we ever get a sniper Sui sibling

[sick mason]

Wang kills people with Weiqi pieces

[sinful sparrow]

@low vortex hi dear can you clear this flood outta my screen 🥺

[nocturne cape]

He has been informed

[sinful sparrow]

wang doesn’t kill bro

he plays weiqi with them, and they just magically explode if they lose

🤫

[brazen bane]

Jun should be a Duelist defender

[sick mason]

Hell nah 💀

[brazen bane]

She will save the class from bumhood

Trust

[quick steppe]

her thing is the ruler I think

[nocturne cape]

True duelist style

[quick steppe]

the wei chien ruler or whatever

[crystal niche]

This game really wants me to live with these temps

went from no healing to the best healing

[sick mason]

Smh he lost to his older brother's evil version

[brazen bane]

Wang should have been a Strategist

He got robbed fr

[sick mason]

I wonder how would those weiqi pieces work as a strategist

[sinful sparrow]

attach a weiqi piece on operators in the deployment waiting zone, up to 3

upon being defeated, they deal 1200% of Wang’s ATK as Arts damage each

[brazen bane]

(ignores 32 RES)

[sinful sparrow]

true

[nocturne cape]

39*

[sick mason]

*Deal hybrid dmg

[nocturne cape]

Broken

We need true damage too

[cursive verge]

Hows zima2 and bellone faring in IS

[sick mason]

Imagine if Fang becomes an incantation medic

And just straight up deal true dmg with S3

[sinful sparrow]

heard bellone is just worse saki for 6

[nocturne cape]

Something something hes good from e1

IS5 vgg situational pick or smth

Zima2 is irrelevant

[cursive verge]

Thanks

[sinful sparrow]

omg 4th guard pick

in is5 gvg

@nocturne cape wdyt of ho’ol for 6

[nocturne cape]

Zima2 is just pure afk slop

Not even better than pram2

Underwhelming

[sinful sparrow]

i saw someone drafting her for ed5 but i dont actually wanna believe that its real

[cursive verge]

so her s3 doesnt save her

[low vortex]

Can we not spam please

Dont abuse caps / markdown either

[nocturne cape]

She seems ok

[muted jewel]

Ok but tell the guy to be nice

[nocturne cape]

I doubt shes anything mandatory tho

[sinful sparrow]

so we’re still gonna draft pram

🫃 good to know

[nocturne cape]

Situational ig

Pram wont do hool’s damage against boss

[sinful sparrow]

pram better en route!

or something

[nocturne cape]

Sure

[cursive verge]

I heard multiplicative modifiers are prefered over additive for IS is that right

[sinful sparrow]

for relic slop? maybe…

[nocturne cape]

Modifiers of what

[cursive verge]

Atk

[nocturne cape]

For what? Relic? Skill?

Be more specific

[cursive verge]

Relic scaling

Skills scaling with relics

[sinful sparrow]

he means

in IS, are atk_scale skills better than skills that buff ATK

Or something like that

[nocturne cape]

Are you talking about

Attacks deal 380% ATK as Arts damage

Vs

ATK +330%

?

[cursive verge]

The exact context was logos being bad since he has additive modifiers not multiplicaive and so he doesnt scale well with relics

[sinful sparrow]

so its just that

[nocturne cape]

Ok so yes

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

yea

[cursive verge]

[nocturne cape]

Because operators’ +ATK falls under the same multiplier with some relics

[sinful sparrow]

pram my goat
380% ATK per attack

and S3 is like big big damage

@low vortex what is pram s3’s total damage

[heavy pumice]

oh zima2 irrelevant for IS

[nocturne cape]

These are referred to as internal / conditional modifiers

[sinful sparrow]

😇

yeah zima2 looks kinda slop

[sick mason]

Ellow

[sinful sparrow]

afk slop tier

[heavy pumice]

is this any IS or spesific IS?

[cursive verge]

Is there a doc or something where I can read these up

[sinful sparrow]

i mean when have you ever seen gen content warrior being viable in IS

[nocturne cape]

Whereas “deal damage as” applies at the very end and doesnt overlap with anything

Theres an is central article on damage calc im pretty sure

Its buried somewhere tho

One sec

[low vortex]

I’m retired from the calculator

[nocturne cape]

https://is-central.github.io/general-knowledge/damage-calculations/

[sinful sparrow]

wtf

who do i contact now 😢

[heavy pumice]

but pram2 afk sloptier too!

[quick steppe]

super bloody wolf review

[low vortex]

Do it yourself coward

[cursive verge]

thanks a lot

[sinful sparrow]

nope

[quick steppe]

pram should be higher until like

70-80 res

[sinful sparrow]

ur 🟢 tier

😢

[low vortex]

[quick steppe]

and it might be even higher in practice

[nocturne cape]

My goat light is retired

Worst ending

[quick steppe]

because they only calculated with 3 snow tiles

[nocturne cape]

Math magician where

[low vortex]

No I just cba to do multiplication

[sinful sparrow]

no way super bloody wolf dragslayer’s idol

[quick steppe]

and passive freeze for -res

[low vortex]

Wake me up when interesting calcs

Leizi my beloved

[heavy pumice]

joke aside, i am looking for her s3 potential which is.... its like finding a needle in whole desert :icant:

[nocturne cape]

Ok tell me how to calculate leizi s3’s total damage

[quick steppe]

ideal conditions

[low vortex]

Uh you make variables

For your various scenarios

👍

[nocturne cape]

🤓

[low vortex]

💢

Leizi S2 is so peak

Space & time function

[heavy pumice]

oh yeah
how about ch3n performance in IS?

[nocturne cape]

I missed Light in his lezi pfp

[low vortex]

It was very cute icl

[nocturne cape]

Good in 5&6

[low vortex]

Too bad I’m on mobile I can’t quickly change back

[heavy pumice]

good as in top pick or?

[low vortex]

PC has cached recent pfps

[nocturne cape]

Meta relevance

Words on the street she’s the best gvg talons starter but i dont know much about that comp at all

[sinful sparrow]

i have been liking chen3 a lot

for 6 at least

[heavy pumice]

[sinful sparrow]

maybe you draft her and not saki
idk

[nocturne cape]

In 6 shes great imo

[heavy pumice]

ok ch3nknights is real :ya:

[nocturne cape]

You can draft her as your first guard

[sinful sparrow]

do you even have hope for a second one

[nocturne cape]

Not really

[sinful sparrow]

please dont say proxy

[nocturne cape]

Sometimes you do

Ok go play proxy

[heavy pumice]

i see
thinking to play melee only after i got ch3n for IS

[sinful sparrow]

💢

how to play proxy when i havent even won on tianshi

[heavy pumice]

how fun it is

[nocturne cape]

Melee only feels giga doable

[sinful sparrow]

hoshi smile

[nocturne cape]

Practically all the meta ops in expansion 2 are melees

[sinful sparrow]

what do people take if no yato as replacement 🤔

[nocturne cape]

Minus maybe wis and pram

[nocturne cape]

Just play the game normally

Yato is for when you lowroll

Just dont lowroll

[heavy pumice]

it still a rough idea
not clear enough who i will ban or something like that

[cunning karma]

those guys are shouting these all days and all the Saki fans are mad

[nocturne cape]

Saki was never the ideal vgg starter period

[quick steppe]

calculate depending on the frame data apparently

[sinful sparrow]

Ah yes, just highroll technology

🧑‍💻

[heavy pumice]

i like the idea play based on hand relics like firework or something

[quick steppe]

also don’t forget passive thunderbolts

[nocturne cape]

Dont lowroll doesnt necessarily imply highroll

Smile

[sinful sparrow]

:realmad:

[nocturne cape]

To be fair

No need to treat this like anything special

[sinful sparrow]

avg roll
looks inside
bell drum bloodspill law and order

[heavy pumice]

good thing i didnt pull on ave mujica

[sinful sparrow]

😢

[nocturne cape]

Dont force t3 if you low roll

Same thing as is5

[quick steppe]

but my isc medal 😢

[nocturne cape]

Its meant to be a challenge not something you jerk over

[sinful sparrow]

the concept of “lowroll” kinda got thrown out of the window for me

i would call a run like that a lowroll

since the stats is big

[nocturne cape]

A run like what

[sinful sparrow]

.

this

[nocturne cape]

If those are all you have then yeah

[sinful sparrow]

😨

[nocturne cape]

Mid-low

Youre not doing terrible

But you want more

Because your survival is still ass

So either roll the 4 hitcount coin or find enough sp to draft the new ursus medic

[quick steppe]

the 4 hit count shredded by ed3 relic

[nocturne cape]

Assuming 245

Smile

[heavy pumice]

in IS6 which are more impactful?
good relics or good coins?

[sinful sparrow]

you need both to win ed5

🤫

[nocturne cape]

Both

[quick steppe]

coins = more relics in dlc2 smile

[sinful sparrow]

wtf but isc is gonna shame me for doing 245 😢

uts like 235 in is5!!!!!!!!

[quick steppe]

elitist culture 😢

[nocturne cape]

Thats not true because ed3 is slop

[sinful sparrow]

true 😢

[nocturne cape]

D18 ed4 is non trivial

[heavy pumice]

wtf!
hmm

[nocturne cape]

Sure 235 is harder

But i dont think its at a point where you would be shamed upon for playing 245

Unlike is5

People glitch out unflinching masterplan anyway

Are they REALLY playing 235?

[cunning karma]

there are some chads who don't do that

[nocturne cape]

Are there really

[sinful sparrow]

whats glitching oht

Is it just waiting until bleed expires

[nocturne cape]

You stall for 999s

Unflinching masterplan will then expire

Slop ass strat

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

is this why the t3 vids are like an hour at chong

[nocturne cape]

This is 999s of vg Yato spamming

Actually so slop

[sinful sparrow]

💀

[sinful sparrow]

Wait

are you referring to the -SP one?

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[sinful sparrow]

cuz the bleed is cloud and pain-

bruh

[nocturne cape]

Why would they wait out the bleed

[sinful sparrow]

makes sense

[sick mason]

Fu-

No LeiFa coin either

[errant siren]

Drum

Drum

Drum

[sick mason]

Hey

[amber pawn]

saki spam

[remote badger]

this is so wilted rose

900/1000

on MOS test

[quick steppe]

this is so wilted rose

[sinful sparrow]

does it matter

you only need 700 to pass

i still havent taken that slop ass test

:sob

and i am graduating like in 2 months

[remote badger]

moswc

smile

[sick mason]

Seems like the game really wanted me to have bells

[paper notch]

highroller

[errant siren]

[sick mason]

But I can only have 2 stacks

Since now I'm in floor 6 and still has no LeiFa coin

[winter gate]

When Bells of Agreement says "candle holders promoted by combat" does it mean : "you have an E1 candle holder and you get a voucher for their class at the end of the stage and then promote them" or does it mean using the candle holder node to promote using a stage?

[sick mason]

There are 3 ways to gain bells stacks

[errant siren]

promote using a stage
is correct

Pussy ways does nothing.

[sinful sparrow]

• Pathfinder combat option
• Face-Off 2nd option
• Lei-Fa's Purge Tongbao

these are the 3 ways to gain that relic's stacks

[sick mason]

I'm on a roll indeed

[winter gate]

Thanks. Well not like one usually gets that relic at the beginning of the run and can thus use it to the fullest.

[sick mason]

Who knows you might get it in floor 1

[tidal dew]

Ok so right now I can remove Raidian, tank the boss for -30 and reput all my ops once the boss walk on the bluebox right ?

[winter gate]

Sure, just like any other relic. I tend to see it late game most of my runs

[errant siren]

Yep. You can do that.

[tidal dew]

Alright, moment of truth then

[errant siren]

Don't think it's necessary, but if you feel you will fuck it up otherwise

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1435331075768324106/pram.gif

[tidal dew]

I know myself, I WILL fuck it up

Alright, finally done with the first ever IS6 clear of the whole world

[echo peak]

How does the targeting on "Sui" work?

I assumed it has to follow some sort of priority right?

[errant siren]

Yes

1. Most crowded
2. If several ops/all isolated from each other - Most bottom
3. If several on same row - Most left

[echo peak]

The wiki doesn't haven't written it down so I came here for help

[echo peak]

Oh, that's

Really weird

I see

[crystal niche]

ok now just need to do wang on d10 and wtf -2 max life points

shit is designed to make early floors harder

[ivory snow]

Such a fun ride

[errant siren]

idk just don't leak lmao

[crystal niche]

nah i meant you can trade less in bosky

[sinful sparrow]

?

[crystal niche]

lesser early relics

[echo peak]

Oh, I missed that

[dense anchor]

finally done.

IS7 when?

[faint rampart]

^

[west quarry]

any idea on how to kill ten trillion sharpedges

with this fucked ass draft

hey i played well!

[paper notch]

i think it's time to pack it up

[faint rampart]

ive heard leizi s3 can deal with it somewhat, idk how cope

[west quarry]

leizi s3 hitcount is a fraud tbh

me when i get 0 caster vouchers the entire run:

[paper notch]

i mean you got sniper

could've gone for wisadel

[quick steppe]

greyy2 even

[crystal niche]

lemuen

[faint rampart]

what about hoshi2 s2

[west quarry]

im not taking that dogshit ass start

[paper notch]

start?

also do people run raidian s1 for this?

[earnest shuttle]

yes

[west quarry]

I don't own her

[paper notch]

oh rip

[west quarry]

also wis is not doing shit against ed2a sharpedges

[earnest shuttle]

raidian s1 stall 1 last enemies from phase 1 so that u can focus on killing the feet on last 50% hp

[paper notch]

oh ye makes sense

i saw that kill gate on tomimi

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-stare-pepe-sus-gif-6983445641596872640

[remote badger]

ofc 35 hitcount

[tender chasm]

uh i don't see any scout node in floor 5, am i failed to get IS6 ed4?

[west quarry]

isnt it 30

and theres like 10 sharpedges

[west quarry]

show me otherwise and i will ..still not use wis bcs i cant

[remote badger]

have u counted it's spawners yet

[west quarry]

the statuegiests?

or waht

idk what u mean

[tender chasm]

do you send operator at early floor for ED4?

[west quarry]

just one

[paper notch]

ye

floor 3

[west quarry]

then the rest you can do within f6 bosky

[paper notch]

floor 4 isnt guaranteed iirc

[west quarry]

i like doing it on f2* after f1 bosky

[paper notch]

so you send as early as you can

[west quarry]

none of the floors are

afaik

[tender chasm]

alright

[west quarry]

i hit the 1% today

[paper notch]

the earlier the better ye

[west quarry]

floor 34 no scout

[paper notch]

gg

[earnest shuttle]

floor 5 surely

[faint rampart]

is it because s2 doesn't have enough hitcount or something...

[west quarry]

ok so theres 8 sharpedges

[faint rampart]

maybe im overestimating her with is6 highrolls 😵‍💫

[west quarry]

each will usually spawn 3-4 spearhead

[remote badger]

lets count the ones without +aspd ones

[west quarry]

usually 4 because if you try to block them they will murder you

each spearhead has 30 hp

so 8x4x30 = 960 hits

[paper notch]

she's aoe tho

why are we counting the hits like this

[west quarry]

okay like

i havent actually used wis s2 there

why dont you try

[paper notch]

i did

yesterday

[west quarry]

without aspd?

[paper notch]

well

i had aspd

[west quarry]

[paper notch]

that's why im not pushing this point

not sure how well she does without aspd

[west quarry]

yes if we're highrolling i just might have highrolled a FUCKING CASTER VOUCHER

[paper notch]

yessir

just get luckier

ong

[west quarry]

never playing shadow squad ever again

🔥

[faint rampart]

potentially speccast player maybe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

[remote badger]

speccast

looks inside:

1 quintillion casters 2 spec

smile

[carmine token]

Just get

[paper notch]

yes this is the just get tech they've been talking about

[west quarry]

i played speccast off shadow and won btw

[faint rampart]

:dalao:

[west quarry]

it was just ed14

shit squad

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390756814532378634/1483023372039356427/13OVP3E6BSBOCJ9ZXT3V.gif

[crystal niche]

Wow

[brazen bane]

sir

your free win

please take it

[crystal niche]

this only gives me p6 lol and free hope

but I'll take it

also bells f1

[brazen bane]

what did I say

[crystal niche]

should i e2 raidian or exu2

[drifting island]

isnt raidian free to raise

oh inside is

nvm

[simple berry]

should i do encounter or L&F?

[timid fox]

encounter, L&F if u have smth to exchange relics

[earnest shuttle]

could have trade off the relic debuff

whatever this prob low diff

[cunning karma]

what the fuck I tried to rob Cannot when everyone was in the scroll

[crystal niche]

[faint rampart]

surely you have eot

[cunning karma]

[sick mason]

Why the fuck Ho'ol's IS module encouraged you to leak one time per battle

[errant siren]

Sh-sh-sh.

Read the whole module description.

There's more with leaking stuff.

[crystal niche]

NAIS

finally raidian mod done

[copper orchid]

All about trust the process

[carmine token]

ange crunch

ass is mode

[sly harness]

f6 shop rob be like (they were easy)

[ionic bridge]

Heya guys can someone send the beyond mount and sea gif here i can't find it

[split void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

Just save it like thiz

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303743230247960682/1304599050443821056/attachment.gif

[ionic bridge]

Thanks brother

[carmine token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194876316156174408/1320615354648760320/00fec94e716f00917b9f6d77414c584e398933914.gif

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603595771287437322/1437312860077162657/eef2f6a5b8d27c3db973dcb3c2b0eda511145481.gif

[shut turret]

Are the 2 new ops the best use of their respective vouchers in is now?

[sly harness]

Yes. Although SilverAsh may not always be Hope efficient. If you are not playing like a freez comp 5* Agent will still be sufficient

[shut turret]

Alright, ty!

[tribal pulsar]

Narantuya or Wisadel start for IS6

[faint rampart]

e2 or e1

[tribal pulsar]

Tactical Ranged Squad

So E2

[sly harness]

Wisadel is strong (although because of that no one plays here so I don't know how good actually her f2 Bosky matchups are - should be very good).

[tribal pulsar]

Camo is strong too

[crystal niche]

I remember either cube or bait making an ed4 guide

or the guide was about dlc1 i forgot

i can't seem to find it

[faint rampart]

baits hello hello in is6

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/#progression-milestone-x-ending-4
idk

[crystal niche]

oh wow i didn't read till that part lol

wait so you get the ed4 relic right after you send someone in using the scout right

[rich thorn]

yes

[paper notch]

spelling mistake?

[rich thorn]

yes

@inland elbow

[paper notch]

damn

[crystal niche]

so you can save the candles on f5 if you have the ed4 relic?

[rich thorn]

and relics working too

and tianshi bonus too

game loves to play with wording btw

[wind crescent]

any1 having is5 guide

[crystal niche]

icic

[rich thorn]

because that floor still counts as bosky, but instead of shinfei border named as jinxi border

[wind crescent]

after a couple of month (almost a year) i play arknight

im interested to is

[crystal niche]

altho i will prob use flower

[rich thorn]

pinned messages

[wind crescent]

bet bet

uh

i cant find one

[flint token]

dawg it's the first one

[wind crescent]

oh

[crystal niche]

[flint token]

son 🥀

[rich thorn]

🥀

[crystal niche]

selective vision

[wind crescent]

wallahi i don't understand how to use the web

well time to figure my self

[rich thorn]

damn, need to finish my run, and check one thing

cuz forgot again, does ops what send to scrolls migmite peak are auto promoted

[crystal niche]

wtf

the big beast takes up lp if an enemy TOUCHES it?

[rich thorn]

no way captain

literally said - blue box

[flint token]

did not read tomimi award

what'd you think would happen after blue box got disabled

also holy shit now that i have some practice in ed4 is comically easy

[paper notch]

it is comically easy rn ye

[rich thorn]

ed4 is pretty easy

if compare to ed3

cuz jinxi border

🚬

[flint token]

14 combats 🤑

[rich thorn]

7

how the hell you counted 14

[flint token]

er i just threw out a random number

14 relics then

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1481352262151438418/spicypram.gif

[faint rampart]

oh wow a sylvarion member

[wind crescent]

how do u know

[faint rampart]

why wouldn't i😇

[wind crescent]

...

now im sure sillyvarion member are all freaky

welp time to do my is5

[faint rampart]

😔

[sly harness]

Hihi, Biblically accurate tier list of Hours of Sui in dlc1 (||kind of a meme that shows how broken the current and even upcoming IS6 is and stuff||)

[crystal niche]

matterhorn s2 ye?

[faint rampart]

posting in other servers to start the hate chain of i hate talisman hours

[carmine token]

wow there is a secret 13th sui

[sly harness]

No, one has a clone

[shut turret]

Is this in the wonderland node the same as a pathfinder node(i.e. are the hope prices discounted)?

[carmine token]

why

[sly harness]

Two variants of Talisman Hour

With one of them being much less impactful than the other

[carmine token]

label which is which

[sly harness]

Guess

[sly harness]

Nope I clearly placed it among others to show that it isn't exceptionally bad

[carmine token]

nuh uh

[rich thorn]

thats for 1st hour hit?

[faint rampart]

thats the point (?)
reddit ragebait activity

[rich thorn]

because hell nah Ill restart when wu-shang hits me as 3rd one

[sly harness]

nah

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-stare-pepe-sus-gif-6983445641596872640

[sly harness]

you are not rolling 150+ collectibles, what is the point of playing a run like this

[rich thorn]

even after 100+ its default win

at least for now

[sly harness]

Yes but who cares about winning in the current IS6

[rich thorn]

and these people saying what they want d18 badges and clearing on d12 for em is bad

🥀

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

I care, for cortisol and dophamine boost

||even if Im fine with exploding on f4 em bullshit on is5||

we have 2 types of people here in IS6 for now
highrollers what complaining what they didnt 150+ relic runs
base d10 players with no ops

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/766702520810602496.png?size=48

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

its just someone that was complaining about is6 to lukas few days ago

felt like seeing their reaction

[rich thorn]

but thats still true

🚬

[golden raven]

any 4* ops that good for is? especially is6?

[cold fern]

what is this? what are hours for? I maxed my raidian without knowing this mechanic

[sly harness]

Debuffs

[cold fern]

ethan and purestream

[sly harness]

You get them on some floors

[sly harness]

For IS5:
https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/
For IS6:
https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/low-rarity-recommendations/

[faint rampart]

@/lukas post that tierlist in the g**ner server to start farming :run:

[sly harness]

[golden raven]

rosmontis good for is? i dont know where should i use my vouc if i get sniper voucher

[rich thorn]

My man is like (supp squad with cocoon ofk)
Gimme Interdependent Luck
Gimme Wu-Shang Shuttle
Dont hit me with Wu-Shang
Or I`ll explode and restart the run

[sly harness]

Very good in 5, niche in 3 in other not so much, can work in 6 but is far from being the best pick

[sly harness]

*I will be too lazy to win a run with not even 100 collectibles

No one is exploding

[rich thorn]

whats better do you think to lvlup for current IS, gnosis S2M3 or pram2 S3M3

[crisp scaffold]

Wisadel but Exu alt start is much better

[rich thorn]

cuz pram2 is -3sp +atk on m3, and gnosis -1sp +1s cold +atk

[sly harness]

ig Gnosis because it is his main skill

Unless you are going to take Prama as early Boksy carry then you will S3 masteries

[rich thorn]

[oblique carbon]

is there only one chance per run to get the ending2 item? i misclicked and didn't get it

[sly harness]

Yes.

[oblique carbon]

goddamn it

[sly harness]

Always get 30 Ingots before entering Decision node to guarantee it

[gaunt bay]

Ur fucking kidding me wheres my ed2

[rich thorn]

after turmoil ofk

xD

[cursive verge]

Better than the time my bosky needed me to go through 2 nodes outside of 5x5 and I had 1 candle left

[crystal niche]

ok so

someone tell me how to abuse wu shang shuttle

[sinful sparrow]

most basic is looping between tavern for heal and trade for relics

[gaunt bay]

is pram on s1 or 2 for exemplary service

[cursive verge]

S2 I think but let a pro confirm

[faint rampart]

^

[sly harness]

Farm Ingots and buy out as many shop pages as possible on f6

[west quarry]

lfg ed24 done finally

[crystal niche]

huh

[west quarry]

done with dlc1

[paper notch]

you dont even have to particularly abuse it. it's just good

[west quarry]

[crystal niche]

it works on normal shop?

[paper notch]

oh that's a different thing

[sly harness]

The free and infinite refresh does

[west quarry]

wu shang shuttling

the broken ass collectible that does what it doesnt even say it does

[crystal niche]

I mean the cannot shop

[west quarry]

[paper notch]

usually you'd have quite a few coupons lying around tho

[west quarry]

wu shang works on rogue trader

why?? who knows

[crystal niche]

icic

I remember big bob's certificate can be used other than being a relic

what can it do

[rich thorn]

second encounter where cannot asks you to give it back

[west quarry]

another combat

combats = good

take the combat!

[crystal niche]

[rich thorn]

nope

ass

pay him 50 ignots

[brazen bane]

imagine paying debt instead of murdering your creditor

[tall zephyr]

I have a question. Is the IS6 plan guaranteed to get ed2 relic requirement for 30 ingots.

[brazen bane]

Yea

Always pay 30

Don't gamba

[flint token]

yeah just get 30 buckaroos to shoo liuer away

btw gamba takes all your cash if you dont know

[tall zephyr]

And does it require more candles to avoid RNG for ED2?

[flint token]

i mean the more candles the better

[sly harness]

-20 imo is the optimal option

[gaunt bay]

ITS ANOTHER TURMOIL

[flint token]

though usually taking all boskies should let you find ed2 consistently

just path good ig

[gaunt bay]

its actually going to be the last node isnt it

[sly harness]

And taking all Boskies is optimal in terms of scaling

(in ed4 run you will want to save candles on f5)

[flint token]

waiter waiter 2 more bosky tongbaos please

also later shops sell bosky entry

[rich thorn]

classic

yeah

where to ping bait?

@inland elbow gonna suggest one thing for guide
sending into scrolls promotes operators, but not light a candle (important for some relic effects)
and I know, thats should be obv, but I see people sometimes asking about that anyways

[gaunt bay]

I GET

STIR FRY AFTER I CLEAR THE LAST TURMOIL

OKAY BROO

OKAY BRO

[rich thorn]

f5?

[gaunt bay]

bro

[errant siren]

[gaunt bay]

this run

i fucking cant

[rich thorn]

just ed4

ez stir fry stacks

also

BETTER THAN BELLS AT LAST F6 SHOP OK

[gaunt bay]

8 node decision

into last turmoil stir fry

[rich thorn]

EZ

[west quarry]

why what

just take the combat

[rich thorn]

because future investments

[west quarry]

does he even delete shop if u take that combat?

i thought he only leaves if u rob hi

m

[rich thorn]

nope

[west quarry]

wot

[rich thorn]

but he gives tongbao

[west quarry]

well whats the problem then

30 ingot for combat look good

[rich thorn]

you cant get it outside of 50 ignots option

[west quarry]

ya but u also get to keep big bog

b

[rich thorn]

and he saves bobs certificate with this option

[west quarry]

oh

wait

yea50

icic

[rich thorn]

its 40 actually

[west quarry]

sounds good w wu shang

wurf

[rich thorn]

cuz +10 on tongbao

so paying it is good too sometimes

[west quarry]

icic

[sly harness]

you get it for -20 too

[rich thorn]