This is what not playing is5 for too long does
#is-station
prime mountain
sly harness
I would say that the issue was 2 low DPH ops against 2k def
rich thorn
you know whats weird, you tossed on boats today, I tossed on boats today
sly harness
rich thorn
prime mountain
Yeah its a classic talons run with somehow 0 attack buffs
rich thorn
and forgetting to pick good ops
sly harness
Logos
prime mountain
Outside of like guard stuff but I only have mwynar e1...
rich thorn
sly harness
sly harness
Or Młynar
rich thorn
or saki
sly harness
Lets give it a try 
faint rampart
🥀
rich thorn
🥀
prime mountain
Why is f4 rob looking tempting
sly harness
-999
prime mountain
I only have 158 ingots left 🥀
Like I got few relics but with sprouts and soul binding stone? idk my attack looking good
Ok how do you clear this though
its def doable run is good but how
sly harness
My e2 Ros
prime mountain
Ok how do you clear this though
Lukas pls help
prime mountain
Its clearable though but I just dont know the strat
paper notch
welfare only needs a very specific draft for frequent dispute
sly harness
e2 Ros
prime mountain
Relics shown above if you scroll a bit
with -40% sp cost trag can cook something right?
Also +50aspd and +def from bosky effects
paper notch
i might have a better chance with welfares than this draft
sly harness
Ye Targ should stall with S3
Bit idk what exactly about the top
Generally you want to open the top
Then stalk, Młynar in the back as DPS
prime mountain
Generally you want to open the top
Not sure its optimal here? Cause trag up top would just stall the demo guys a ton
paper notch
mantra + trag assuming you have the hand should be able to easily hold top im assuming
prime mountain
mantra + trag assuming you have the hand should be able to easily hold top im as...
This is not lamp
hands arent real
paper notch
wtf
paper notch
omg talons
sly harness
If you want some more professional advice try asking in Central 
I am not that knowledgeable
paper notch
i've lost in this stage more times than i'd like to admit. can only really pass this with a very specific draft
prime mountain
Exu s3 to redeploy mwynar prob?
Actually idk cause freeze on deploy
Ok we ball worse case scenario we learn
paper notch
do you have an opener for this?
prime mountain
yeah plenty of initial sp
paper notch
i meant cuz you need to free up the rocks up top
prime mountain
Im thinking not to actually but might be scuffed
Surely this can tank the shadowblades for long enough to let exu kill?
paper notch
they are very damaging. blocking them is very scuffed from my experience
muted skiff
prime mountain
Not clearing rocks was a good choice, exu just killed the enemies on right side
and mantra took care of final hard wave of enemies
paper notch
pure oyster
For the bosky combat stage “ware-user” with the anti dp jerks, which vanguards are usable? Any agent?
prime mountain
For the bosky combat stage “ware-user” with the anti dp jerks, which vanguards a...
Leizi pot2
pure oyster
Wha?
prime mountain
She has exactly enough dp to open
You get like 3 frames or something
To open at 11dp
pure oyster
Jeez
paper notch
raidian with -5 dp cost summons works
crownslayer works
otherwise +99 dp tongbao works
else i dont go into the stage
prime mountain
Show your team might be able to cook
pure oyster
Unlikely
pure oyster
Nope
prime mountain
also wait is this same screenshot as earlier? which floor is this?
pure oyster
I’m not currently in bosky though, I have vouchers to spend which is why I was asking
prime mountain
Oh well which are they
pure oyster
Skill level 7, no mod obviously
prime mountain
Yeah she works, 11dp means you need to be very precise with your timing though
If you're playing on mobile good luck, easy on pc
prime mountain
Oh great, very free then
Put her on s3 and just have her attack the middle enemy then raidian s2(?) I think to kill the dp stealing ones
S2 prob also works
pure oyster
S3 not an option for me
prime mountain
Why wouldnt it be
pure oyster
Not e2
prime mountain
Not enough hope for it? you had 2 vouchers yeah?
pure oyster
She’s not e2 in my account
manic flint
rq
does ntr stun hit air
prime mountain
Oh bruh
manic flint
rip 15 ingots 😭
manic flint
You have cliff and jess that can lmao
i forgot to switch cliff skill 😭
sly harness
not only rip 15 but also eat -15
sly harness
Put her on s3 and just have her attack the middle enemy then raidian s2(?) I thi...
S2 is the skill for that stage
S3 is some d18 + ed4 debuff cope
prime mountain
Its always funny seing the portal take an extra minute to get here
sly harness
You'll understand this when you see how slowly Cannot moves if you don't attack him
prime mountain
@sly harness When you say after he turned the corner you mean his animation when he starts to look down?
prime mountain
<@557662105378226207> When you say after he turned the corner you mean his anima...
After this slash?
rich thorn
<@557662105378226207> When you say after he turned the corner you mean his anima...
check tomimi, you will see path
sec
prime mountain
check tomimi, you will see path
No im talking about specific trag s3 timing to have him block the balls
I know where he goes
prime mountain
Yeah but that costs dp
The point is for trag to completely solo the boss
then kill everything > p2 becomes easy
sly harness
yes when he starts moving down
prime mountain
Ok this looks good
pure oyster
Do you get different rewards for these different options? Left most is obviously trivial so I would usually choose that one
prime mountain
Do you get different rewards for these different options? Left most is obviously...
Yes but left is actually easier and better
it gives you a choice of 2 tongbaos twice
sly harness
prime mountain
Why does 2v2 give more exp lmao
prime mountain
Oh didnt know that, good info
pure oyster
Ugh I failed again didn’t I
Why ines 13?! I must have not been paying attention to something
pure oyster
Yup dp never went above 10. Not only have I never passed this stage but I’ve never even deployed an op
prime mountain
Yup dp never went above 10. Not only have I never passed this stage but I’ve nev...
It goes to 11 but you missed it, its VERY small window
pure oyster
pure oyster
😭
rich thorn
cant stop highrolling huh
static dragon
probably still too early to take visage considering you can get max life point again from command level up
prime mountain
Ya just get chalice here its really good
Anything else I need before blowing up to quilon?
quick steppe
probably fine
gaunt bay
Meowrillo
sly harness
any better stall for map 1?
quick steppe
trag s3 tbh
prime mountain
any better stall for map 1?
No ethan :/
quick steppe
trag carries map 1
prime mountain
Starved on specialists
quick steppe
simply explode quilon faster
gaunt bay
Anything else I need before blowing up to quilon?
WTF mantraslop…
prime mountain
simply explode quilon faster
t3 egg yep simply burst trough insane amounts of dr faster
quick steppe
not highrolling enough
gaunt bay
What’s the reasoning behind trag s1 over s3
quick steppe
bind
prime mountain
What’s the reasoning behind trag s1 over s3
To quilon stall, s3 blocks him
If block well
oops flower blow up
prime mountain
yeah no ethan
quick steppe
should have grabbed qb for bind with one of the guard vouchers
open finch
I thought you just take s3 anyway cuz it's the better skill for literally everything else
prime mountain
Only one frd for amiya too if I dont get spec voucher from this its gonna be scuffed
prime mountain
I thought you just take s3 anyway cuz it's the better skill for literally everyt...
His s1 cleared the ed4 boat faceoff!
M9 unit!
gaunt bay
You have 2 agent
prime mountain
(I dont have him m9)
gaunt bay
It’ll be fine surely
midnight summit
To quilon stall, s3 blocks him
Sounds as a cope
prime mountain
You have 2 agent
Yeah surely just spam 3 units all the time
open finch
We don't look how Wang clears that goober stage f5 relicless
prime mountain
with -3dp tought!
open finch
My goat
pure oyster
Guess I won’t be doing end2 again
prime mountain
Question is just if sakiko and mon3tr have the dps for p2
sly harness
His s1 cleared the ed4 boat faceoff!
his S1 is used in RA CC 🚬
open finch
How broken
open finch
Give me Victoria/Siracusa sakiko or give me death
Stronghold broke me
Damazti squad has also done irreversible damage to my playstyle
If someone yoinks it I just don't know how to play anymore
prime mountain
Wait actually? Cheeto sakiko s1 with pasta > s3? surely not?
prime mountain
Yeah no we just s3
open finch
I rmb ppl saying sakiko s1 is the true endgame of stronghold!
prime mountain
Where do I place trag so he doesnt blow up while stalling p1?
Forward deploy hoshi?
quick steppe
s3 or s1
prime mountain
S1
quick steppe
idk you on your own for that one
neverbeforeseen tech
otherwise he comfortably holds left side basically alone + stalls quilon
prime mountain
Envies be looking threatening but this seems fine?
quick steppe
dont let the envies kill your operators
open finch
Damn how broken is just don't let tech
quick steppe
is central certified tip
open finch
I need to lurk is central more
midnight summit
I rmb ppl saying sakiko s1 is the true endgame of stronghold!
Noway
sly harness
open finch
I can't quite tell whether the server is based or not
prime mountain
Chat I may have blown up to the envies
sly harness
rich thorn
Chat I may have blown up to the envies
quick steppe
looks like someone let the envy kill their operators
prime mountain
You know its bad when they one shot mon3tr 🥀
Ok well I'm making progress, we beat ed2 with t3 egg now
The next run will have to wait (dont say it)
sly harness
i may miss Amiya encounter
sly harness
prime mountain
Wtf is an encounter 🔥
sly harness
gaunt bay
john
rich thorn
true
tiny cosmos
Anything weird gonna pop up if I rob cannot on f6 IS6?
rich thorn
nope
tiny cosmos
Aight
midnight summit
Chat I may have blown up to the envies
Trag s3 brrrr
prime mountain
<:LappDumb:596474463118163968>
Stop stealing these from me...
rich thorn
finally, exploded on tere 🥹
quick steppe
lance on f2 is some insane pathing ngl
35 collectibles by f5 is also probably a failing grade
proven dagger
Chat I may have blown up to the envies
MANTRAGORA SAVE ME
quick steppe
especially for tree squad
arctic panther
MANTRAGORA SAVE ME
mandragora for ch18 trust
quick steppe
solve hope problems by not overlamping 😔
rich thorn
ik ik
quick steppe
you can get the bottom of f5 with just mystery and lance tragodia
arctic panther
but what the fuck i do when im overtolling
eat your thoughts
quick steppe
roll into chronicles earlier 🙄
arctic panther
with 9 plans on f4
eat the plans
quick steppe
take more fights to dig for more toll
rich thorn
and anyway
tossed run, coz 3 encounters no amiya egg
ngl, failed like 3 runs today just because this one
on EM var
rich thorn
tragodia humus probably duos this
yeah
about that
i didnt promoted either humus or quartz
quick steppe
go do that
or just borrow one
earnest ridge
Do I just refresh? Or try for a hoshi carry run?
prime mountain
No idea if hoshi is good in is4 ngl
earnest ridge
I assumed they were the highest dps tank, but I don't know much about anything
quick steppe
d0 anything will work tbh id just go for it
earnest ridge
I have none of the skill tree and only Sakiko as limited 6*, so this place still eats my face
Even on d0
quick steppe
hm
that might be a bit harder than
earnest ridge
Also IS4 feels way way more RNG then IS5 or IS6. Sometimes I just get a map that says oh you don't have a sniper that can stun well I guess you lose
tiny cosmos
Tavern right
Just any nodes to just fully avoid? Should I even waste candles on combats?
I’ve been kinda winging it but this run isn’t as high role as I’d like
paper notch
tavern combats and doubts are good
tavern make more candle
combats make you stronger
doubts to send more ops to ed4
only send as many as you actually need
tiny cosmos
Yeah no I mean is there any node that’s worth looking out for like plans or legends or just ignore them
arctic panther
Yeah no I mean is there any node that’s worth looking out for like plans or lege...
those dont exist in jinxi iirc
tiny cosmos
I really don’t want to but I guess I can kill 10lp for some more candles
rich thorn
Mantragodia soon
tidal crest
MANTRAGORA SAVE ME
late pecan
Progress lmao
tiny cosmos
#salt-mines message nvm over thought it 
late pecan
Damn
agile hill
does anyone know what is coming with the new gamemode from cn
apparently there is a coop and a single player mode
and i heard people saying coop is harder
prime mountain
Guys, I may have found the worst take on reddit so far
rich thorn
flint token
why r u on reddit anyway
prime mountain
why r u on reddit anyway
Where else can I laugh at such dogshit takes
Everyone here is sane 🥀
prime mountain
Yeah
prime mountain
Oh absolutely hated it in fact
quick steppe
like it doesn't become giga trivial until your radian is leveled but that can be tough
prime mountain
I think its the talisman mechanic being really hard to deal with and the progression being not as straightforward
if you ignore the mechanics (WHICH FUCKING EVERYONE DOES because they're bad players) its impossible
remote badger
ppl r just lazy
flint token
redditors when the game doesnt give lamp on the first encounter
remote badger
and dont want to use their brains
prime mountain
redditors when the game doesnt give lamp on the first encounter
You overestimate them
They dont even know how lamp works
flint token
damn
prime mountain
I've seen people post omg king relics from wish fulfilled!!!!
flint token
these fuckers wont survive is3
remote badger
r/arknights have a discord ?
flint token
and that’s after the 5 billions counters that released after its conclusion
remote badger
mmm
flint token
yeah but there’s another one and iirc it’s age restricted
prime mountain
bruh what
flint token
but maybe it’s from another sister subreddit idk
rich thorn
IS3: dice rng bad
ironically, dice rng is not the worst thing
flint token
dont really care enough
rich thorn
prime mountain
Wait there is a reddit specific discord wtf why
prime mountain
Rogue is fine?
flint token
wait no there’s actually a seperate r/arknights disc
prime mountain
i need boats
Oh
quick steppe
should have planned better 🙄
prime mountain
gg good luck on rhine!
quick steppe
f4 boats on principle
prime mountain
f4 boats on principle
f4 boats > explode to f5 EM with extra stats
yep good toughts
quick steppe
well its easier to win a run with more hp than it is to win a run where you...can't do ed4
prime mountain
Isnt there always a faceoff on f5 (almost)?
quick steppe
well it tries to generate 1 of every node but it's not 100%
and being path locked on the floor that generates everything is usually missing out on value
flint token
also doing boat on f5 just irks me for some unknown reasons
quick steppe
Guys, I may have found the worst take on reddit so far
legendary post
so much to read
prime mountain
I cant tell if half of these are bots icl
mfw 2 encounters no ed5
I remember why is5 sucks now
midnight summit
Guys, I may have found the worst take on reddit so far
Wtf
Deserves an expel from this channel
prime mountain
are they wrong tho
What is "strategise with this information" supposed to even mean
how is that good
how is learning the stages bad?
quick steppe
you have to strategize and etc. but also you just need to know a bunch of stages and how to do it cold
prime mountain
Yeah how is that bad though
prime mountain
Learning how to play a video game?????????
quick steppe
reminder that global doesn't have bilibili
quick steppe
or that culture in general tbh
prime mountain
The culture of putting in effort?
rich thorn
from start
prime mountain
idk the reddit post is telling me people REALLY hate IS
no just is6
quick steppe
maybe its just a vocal minority
prime mountain
they LOVED d0 is5 blueprint lamp highroll runs
prime mountain
Apparently not!
Cant clear without raidian
cant level up raidian without clearing!
checkmate bad gamemode!
prime mountain
That requires reading!
quick steppe
im seeing like the new players that are baffled(which is fair)
because yes IS box check mode yada yada
prime mountain
sorry, even d9
d9 is hard apparently
I wonder if just changing the naming scheme would make it seem less hard than it is
rich thorn
because yes IS box check mode yada yada
good thing is, its permanent
so dont need to rush
prime mountain
good thing is, its permanent
Oh no you dont get it
They MUST clear EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW
rich thorn
🚬
late pecan
checkmate bad gamemode!
Skeel issue fr
tiny cosmos
Guys, I may have found the worst take on reddit so far
That guy just hates using his brain 
quick steppe
but also its like
the general attitude of the comments is just assuming most people hate IS and think its rng based???
prime mountain
the general attitude of the comments is just assuming most people hate IS and th...
Rng based
look inside
rich thorn
roguelike
rich thorn
sorry
rich thorn
look inside
lamp
late pecan
Skeel issue tbh
prime mountain
I think they dont understand statistics and probabilities
and how to manipulate
I mean right thats math
quick steppe
nah its just like people be saying things like "oh it's locked behing the worst mode in arknights" and just assuming that people are like "yup thats IS. definetly IS."
prime mountain
math is complex and hard and boring
prime mountain
is6 is such a lie, 3/4 of risk tongbaos are masked flower ones
Yeah
Im baffled by people seing bloodshed and not thinking its good like
-45% hp
Do the math
Thats 1/2 the time it takes to kill every enemy
quick steppe
2.5 great silences
prime mountain
Scales on top of regular relics
quick steppe
or actually 2.25 great silences
prime mountain
2.5 great silences
2 copies of one of the best dps relics in the game
for free
every run
like guys
quick steppe
law and ritual is probably the only SS tier risk coin where you can geniunely get boned by -2 deployment
otherwise 💀
rich thorn
Im baffled by people seing bloodshed and not thinking its good like
or dream of curio, like who cares if its autoskills
prime mountain
or dream of curio, like who cares if its autoskills
Its even better than dream!
rich thorn
if its -40% sp
prime mountain
IT SCALES WITH DREAM!
late pecan
Even better is the fact that they think their units will die first before killing the enemies with Bloodshed Risk coin, like "just place better"
rich thorn
Even better is the fact that they think their units will die first before killin...
even then exu2 shield
rich thorn
prime mountain
what is -25% hp gonna do
Oh wait no sorry wishadel dies to talismans
because s2 isnt real in their head
late pecan
Literally zero downside
prime mountain
I forgot...
rich thorn
Oh wait no sorry wishadel dies to talismans
thats d15
late pecan
Just kill the enemies
quick steppe
masteries locked behind high difficulty 😢
prime mountain
masteries locked behind high difficulty 😢
high difficulty
Look inside
d9 clearably with borrowed raidian and just tavern shield stacking
late pecan
masteries locked behind high difficulty 😢
D10 is a high difficulty I guess? (For module)
Whats the highest difficulty for skill masteries on Raidian s3m3
tiny cosmos
Wisadel places down her summons, talismans attach to summons, d15 burns her and disables her abilities, she then focuses on killing the talisman for a min
late pecan
D7?
prime mountain
>high difficulty
>Look inside
>d9 clearably with borrowed raidian and just taver...
I would know, I sherpa'd one of my friends trough it!
rich thorn
D10 is a high difficulty I guess? (For module)
Whats the highest difficulty for...
6?
and module a locked behind d10 (mod3)
rich thorn
need to check
late pecan
need to check
Cant even check when already unlocked lmfao
arctic panther
>high difficulty
>Look inside
>d9 clearably with borrowed raidian and just taver...
dont even need to borrow
just special squad
rich thorn
not d6
late pecan
D10 is a high difficulty I guess? (For module)
Whats the highest difficulty for...
@rich thorn so I was right lol
rich thorn
ye
agile hill
I think they dont understand statistics and probabilities
to be fair, i think if you think you math let you play IS better by a lot, i think you are just falling for quantification bias.
late pecan
Amazing
prime mountain
to be fair, i think if you think you math let you play IS better by a lot, i thi...
Big words dont make you smart
agile hill
huh, no words were big there
prime mountain
Knowing how to calc tongbaos definitely helps you be good at the game
Knowing the chances of rolling in 1, 2 or 3 attempts and deciding wether or not its worth is absolutely an advantage
rich thorn
lets look positive, after slopping on d15 is6 dlc1 good chunk of people returned to is5 d18
late pecan
He's just memeing on them cuz it's very obvious when it comes to knowing the benefits on Risk coins from their drawbacks.
prime mountain
lets look positive, after slopping on d15 is6 dlc1 good chunk of people returned...
How is that positive..........
prime mountain
He's just memeing on them cuz it's very obvious when it comes to knowing the be...
You mean drag?
rich thorn
How is that positive..........
skill improving
late pecan
You mean drag?
I mean memeing on Reddit
rich thorn
prime mountain
skill improving
Ok true
prime mountain
Yep clearly downside
prime mountain
Yeah man and its bugged, doesnt even let you travel on the node you get it smh
rich thorn
60+ max hope
late pecan
Me when I want vertical travel on the next two nodes after current node.
rich thorn
agile hill
Knowing the chances of rolling in 1, 2 or 3 attempts and deciding wether or not ...
ok, whats your algorithm of determining whether they are worth
prime mountain
ok, whats your algorithm of determining whether they are worth
Lemme pull a slay the spire "it depends" here
late pecan
agile hill
qualitative math?
prime mountain
Always try to do a few things:
Keep enough coupons for vertical pathing to get bosky + pathfind
Is the expected reward from rolling the coins I want worth more than the coupons I would spend? (Like +coupon on statuegeist kill in a bosky)
late pecan
Tangbaos
rich thorn
tangtangbao
prime mountain
Do I need to roll the tongbaos to win ed2 and therefore its worth spending my entire coupon stock even for a VERY slim chance
late pecan
Just look at what benefits u get compared to the downsides you might recieve
prime mountain
Just look at what benefits u get compared to the downsides you might recieve
We were talking about the % chance of rolling specific coins
prime mountain
Like say you have 2 risk coins you want to roll, how many coupons would it take to roll atleast one, or both at the same time
late pecan
We were talking about the % chance of rolling specific coins
Oh, then its just playing with what resources you have.
rich thorn
prob easiest example, good tongbao, but if you flop at some moment, and no vanguards your cooked
quick steppe
is that ever a risk tbh
prime mountain
Oh, then its just playing with what resources you have.
Yeah its called calculating gains and losses
late pecan
Simply solved with Agent Surfer Canta Ines
prime mountain
that is math
rich thorn
is that ever a risk tbh
50/50
quick steppe
it could say 0 dp regen and still be good tbh
rich thorn
prime mountain
is that ever a risk tbh
It fucked up my ed2 run once
0 dp couldnt redeploy on final boss dps phase
quick steppe
and it does just say 0 dp regen post dlc2 because one of the egg effects is -50% dp regen im p sure
late pecan
I never had an issue with Falling Word yet
quick steppe
but there's this little known tech called "not using it for long fights"
prime mountain
but there's this little known tech called "not using it for long fights"
What if you miscalc'd and roll it while trying to get bloodshed 🥀
late pecan
(Cuz Agent is such a funny class, with its redeployment time)
prime mountain
Would never happen!
prime mountain
its ok we have dlc2 to save us with the locking in tongbao
This sounds counter to the entire purpose of risk reward of tongbaos
Like why are they doing this
prime mountain
Yeah what is the downside supposed to be here
prime mountain
no but you see i can't decide the direction <:SoraWow:649634512493346840>
but they would be dead
?
quick steppe
no its literally just no downside
rich thorn
quick steppe
and get 50% dp back
agile hill
Always try to do a few things:
Keep enough coupons for vertical pathing to get b...
i mean the issue with this is due to snowball effect, the "expected value" may not be the same as you think, simple math may not model it to a good accuracy.
prime mountain
Yeah like what
late pecan
LMAOOO
quick steppe
compared to 0% from dying
prime mountain
i mean the issue with this is due to snowball effect, the "expected value" may n...
Im not expecting good accuracy
Im expecting averages
There will be outliers
knowing how to calculate this and account for it is still a skill
late pecan
Thats even better than I expected lol
rich thorn
yep
agile hill
Im expecting averages
i mean the average may not even be accurately calculated. thats why i said "expected value".
quick steppe
its in the highest rarity pool for a reason
late pecan
Fraudmont
prime mountain
i mean the average may not even be accurately calculated. thats why i said "expe...
Yeah and whats your point? we know how probabilities work. Sometimes you roll good, sometimes you roll bad
thats all part of the math
Knowing wether to even toss or not is skill expression
late pecan
Knowing wether to even toss or not is skill expression
I just let it toss itself
rich thorn
i mean the average may not even be accurately calculated. thats why i said "expe...
for examlpe, your dd`s are liberators, and you have 1 or 2 -sp regen tongbaos in cofffer
do you want to toss and brick yourself?
late pecan
Until I get bad ones that I dont need or want, I simply retoss
agile hill
Yeah and whats your point? we know how probabilities work. Sometimes you roll go...
my point is whether a math model is accurate or useful is hard
prime mountain
my point is whether a math model is accurate or useful is hard
Hard is a measure of skill
late pecan
You get free retoss on first time each floor anyways
rich thorn
You get free retoss on first time each floor anyways
you can flower squad anyways
till d12
🚬
late pecan
you can flower squad anyways
True, I just do TacFort or Special Squad. I like Sui Regulator for voucher spam
prime mountain
And can you stop calling it a "model" its just a basic prediction tree, very basic statistics
rich thorn
till your eyes bleed
prime mountain
Until I finallly decide not to use her...
Just pivot to entel leizi its just as easy
sinful sparrow
stop cooking cockrilo
prime mountain
flower squad literally was made for low diff slops
Nah it requires you to know how to abuse plan node, thats hard!
sinful sparrow
its true
rich thorn
Nah it requires you to know how to abuse plan node, thats hard!
true....
late pecan
Just pivot to entel leizi its just as easy
Wahhh
sinful sparrow
abusing Plan is a skill on its own
prime mountain
Did you see the chinese coin trade image!!!!! it has chinese text!!!! looks complicated!
late pecan
abuse
rich thorn
abusing Plan is a skill on its own
actually, dont even need even that, just go into face-off and fish for tongbaos
sinful sparrow
nope there are tiers
rich thorn
prime mountain
cockrilo is giving false info as usual
No im just memeing you missed the convo from earlier where we clowned on bad reddit players
Anyway going to sleep so I can keep malding is5 later tomorrow to get stupid f1 without 3 fights and 0 plans 
quick steppe
once you get going with interdependent its the high difficulty strategy of trading 1 tongbao over and over again in plan 
paper notch
And can you stop calling it a "model" its just a basic prediction tree, very bas...
you're telling me your AI model cant predict what tongbaos are gonna be tossed by what it's seen before
prime mountain
you're telling me your AI model cant predict what tongbaos are gonna be tossed b...
Is my brain AI
oh my god
rich thorn
No im just memeing you missed the convo from earlier where we clowned on bad red...
they hate is6 because raidiant progression and planning
we hate because too much op stuff and easy highroll
we are not the same
sinful sparrow
blud is gonna piss blood in dlc2
slate hull
tongbao toss is so funny because you get one frame of them before the new floor animation and the actual toss animations starts playing
gray pulsar
im too lazy to back read whats this about math and IS
rich thorn
blud is gonna piss blood in dlc2
still unironically fun how ass creativity on dlc2 tho
same old relics
same debuffs
no piss tiles tongbaos
quick steppe
its so fire
quick steppe
billions must 150 collectible runs
rich thorn
where debuffs
billions must pacify hours of sui
petal 2.0
low vortex
i read some things of all time here
agile hill
Difficult yes but doable
i wouldn't say doable to be objective, like can you give a textbook rigor proof to show why your model is correct for determining statistically "best" choices(I guess maybe that shows on average, it yield you most coupon, but maybe not winrate). also the best "expected value" choice for the thing you are optimizing for may not yield you the best expected win rate for the wins you care for.
sinful sparrow
hi light wheres my robux
low vortex
you know me, big and greedy
rich thorn
now they banning slutbots
sinful sparrow
ur actually a summer ant
quick steppe
billions must farm collectibles
sinful sparrow
mfw the mode is just farming 600 collectibles and a final boss at the end
everything else is summer ant
or you’re statchecked to ed2
lovely
slate hull
born to roll, forced to plan
paper notch
sounds like you dont like roguelike gameplay :clueless:
paper notch
:despair:
sinful sparrow
i was looking at Shuo’s Hp
and then suddenly Qui’lon looks like a summer ant
Funny how that works
late pecan
What's the stats for IS2 Big Sad Lock at highest diff?
rich thorn
i was looking at Shuo’s Hp
and then suddenly Qui’lon looks like a summer ant
chong is not that fat ye?
woeful knot
What's the stats for IS2 Big Sad Lock at highest diff?
tomimi.dev and select two crownd
woeful knot
i was looking at Shuo’s Hp
and then suddenly Qui’lon looks like a summer ant
thats what u get for playing slop
u enjoy too much slop 😢
quick steppe
but then you have to add manuscripts and crown
quick steppe
maybe even two crowns
late pecan
but then you have to add manuscripts and crown <:SkadiDaijoubu:83926919996479899...
Sorry what do they do again?
Its been ages since I played IS2
D15 BSL
360000 HP
quick steppe
late pecan
Oh dear Quilon at D18
rich thorn
btw
late pecan
quilonwho?
The powercreep is truly amazing
rich thorn
still 0 ele res
late pecan
so i didnt get proficiencies
Wtf
late pecan
still 0 ele res
Peak
late pecan
i hate ed2
U can do it no probs
Its how I maxed mine
I used IS guide as my cheat sheet to figure out how
gray pulsar
wonder if i should just always play with a raidian/exu2 ban since im going for the isc medals
late pecan
Isc?
stiff crest
ph fuck s3m2 lemuen should be don
gray pulsar
is central
late pecan
wonder if i should just always play with a raidian/exu2 ban since im going for t...
I mean, if u can do it, u can. I am not up to that level so I am still IS normie by that standard
gray pulsar
im just too lazy to learn all of the raidian solo/duos
late pecan
im just too lazy to learn all of the raidian solo/duos
I also abuse Raidian too much thru Special Squad and TacFort
stiff crest
yeppers
gray pulsar
if shes getting banned anyways might as well just remove her early on
rich thorn
and something something 100% dmg reduction if not blocked
late pecan
This game is just asking for "how well can you powercreep and scale with your ops and relics here"
gray pulsar
not saying chongyue isnt harder because he 100% is but quilons hp pool doesnt really reflect where the difficulty of his fight is coming from
quick steppe
the fight difficulty coming from the mob spawn!
2025 recap as a level
stiff crest
@late pecan 🙁
rich thorn
not saying chongyue isnt harder because he 100% is but quilons hp pool doesnt re...
usually envy and flowers explode before boss
🥀
stiff crest
i dont like is6 with how raidian make it yep but i jsut want to clear shit without getting fuck
gray pulsar
remove his cheerleader squad and quilon kinda just topples over like in ed5
stiff crest
hopefully i get ed2
sinful sparrow
nope u told me to go to hospital
rich thorn
bruh, mentioning finnish hospital
woeful knot
does he know
sinful sparrow
does he know
pls senz
finnish hospital
thanks
😇
ur playing too much is3
slop 😢
quick steppe
slop 😢
woeful knot
u mean peak
if u help me finish the 6 op starve and 5 op wfu then ill finnish hospital
😇
or even worse play is6
late pecan
<@289267273309618176> 🙁
Crazy
stiff crest
panda dalao
hardy totem
Took longer to clear difficulty 2 than I would have liked, but got her e2 now
stiff crest
do my s2m2 and s3m2
pure oyster
For fighting the foot on cliff of geists where would you try to get the foot to stomp?
The squad this time
If I do this will the foot hurt exu?
Also what happens to the cars if they get stomped
hardy totem
I think it does? I had the foot stomping me recently and it roughly stomps like this
It's quite big
quick steppe
its a 3x3, no matter what exu wont get stomped
she just has to survive the shockwaves after
hardy totem
Oh, it's 3x3
pure oyster
Is it better to try to deploy ops to damage it before it comes down or after
tiny cosmos
Just kill the foot in the bonsky 
tiny cosmos
Nah it’s known cheese method bc you can let someone leak in the bonsky and it doesn’t count toward your lp so you can focus on the foot there without worry
Also can rinse and repeat a combat node you find to be good to kill him in
It’s my go to cheese for the prereq
hardy totem
Ah, the foot is for one of the endings. I have been doing is6 without guides so far
tiny cosmos
It def is a “oh shit” moment the first time you see it going in blind
I thought it was just a cannon shot at first 🥀
pure oyster
I think I’m gonna gamble on flipping my coins for bal-to move mountains
arctic panther
she just has to survive the shockwaves after
its not the ed2 map it wont do the slaps
pure oyster
I think I’m gonna gamble on flipping my coins for bal-to move mountains
This should get it down to 0 def pretty quickly?
grim portal
my first feet battle without knowing its prerequisite for ed2, is in ed1 boss fight
pure oyster
Ouch
tiny cosmos
my first feet battle without knowing its prerequisite for ed2, is in ed1 boss fi...
Nah you were just doing a challenge run
brazen bane
true
grim portal
yeah but now guide helps me 
hardy totem
Getting stomped be foot certainly makes ending 1 boss more difficult
brazen bane
imagine if the feet can kill Yi
tiny cosmos
youre drafting multiple casters....I think i know where your problem is lol
grim portal
i still got the screenshot of it because im panic at that time
pure oyster
I’m not sure but I def got it really close to 50%
grim portal
at that time, im going blind on IS just to grind lvl 90 raidian
pure oyster
Looks like it was only close. Should have no issue in the next battle
Departing inspection is another easy stage to finish it
Wait maybe I did beat it. I don’t see the bar at the top?
pure oyster
No foot ? Because no bar at top?
cunning karma
Wait maybe I did beat it. I don’t see the bar at the top?
You can always check your collectibles
pure oyster
What’s it called? I looked but I guess I missed it
Never mind it showed up!
Sneaky foot
cunning karma
Don't remember the name, it's an ink bar After you beat the feet it turns into something beneficial
arctic panther
<:ExuHeart:673512491304747018>
you win now
grim portal
how about trying to do 1 ground and 1 ranged for boss battle
pure oyster
Unless I don’t screw up terribly on the boss I think I have a good chance
grim portal
whats you squands looks like rn?
grim portal
im not sure if raidian's summon count as a unit, imagine s2 fully become a gatling gun
pure oyster
I’m gonna take a break and dye my hair. Probably will finish this run tomorrow
lunar knoll
yeah summons count as units
scarlet hemlock
Redirected here from help chat
Tryna get hoshialt’s e2 mats from is6 what specifically do i have to do to get them?
arctic panther
play is
after winning/losing a run you get points which go towards your reward track thingy idk what to call it
this thing
when you get enough points from playing is you get a level in it
each level gives you a reward
arctic panther
yes and you can get them from grinding the rewards
severe oasis
yeah only is6 has them
cunning karma
Redirected here from help chat
Tryna get hoshialt’s e2 mats from is6 what specif...
I think a new account should start with:
Borrow Tragodia first. Simply throwing cats around can help you pass a lot of stages and learn about the maps. Then you'll have an e1 Raidian with a high enough level. Then you need to learn how to clear the "turmoil" nodes with Trag/exu2 + e1 Raidian. After that things become pretty easy, you would have so many ingots that you can buy shields from "tavern" with to simply let you ignore the ending 1 boss (or you get the op relics so that 3/4 stars can do the job as 6 star damage dealers :p)
crystal niche
(i think <:LappDumb:596474463118163968>)
grim portal
does other IS have like a special ops bonus? like raidian on IS6 getting discount on Hopes and summon bonus
arctic panther
does other IS have like a special ops bonus? like raidian on IS6 getting discoun...
not to the extremes of raidian though
grim portal
iirc its more like only unlocking modules?
quick steppe
no the ops just have a passive that only works in that specific IS
most of them suck except for tin man who has 9/17 toll limit and costs less hope
scarlet hemlock
I think a new account should start with:
Borrow Tragodia first. Simply throwing ...
Would like this plus a borrowed exualt be enough?
Or can i just bruteforce
cunning karma
E1 Hoshi2 can maybe do something, but other than that you'll probably mainly be using 3/4 star + borrowed 6 anyway
There's "hope" that you need to consume in IS when recruiting a 5/6 star, so a weak 5/6 that's not fully trained won't really help much
severe oasis
thats the number of enemies that will leak btw you actually need to have atleast 18
pure oyster
with 18 hp, should i attempt left side (ed2)?
severe oasis
if you go in with just 17 and try to leak left youll die
grim portal
with 18 hp, should i attempt left side (ed2)?
not exact 18 please
severe oasis
with 18 hp, should i attempt left side (ed2)?
if you're certain you wont leak anything else you can do it, its not exactly hard to hold middle/right
grim portal
you wont know if at least one leak on mid or right
faint rampart
with 18 hp, should i attempt left side (ed2)?
do you have the OPs who can deal with it
severe oasis
what hitcount options do you have
do you have ambushers
leizialt s3? entelechia?
flingers?
pure oyster
at least +140 ASPD, highmore
faint rampart
🥹
pure oyster
um, lets see
severe oasis
i doubt highmore would do much on left
pure oyster
The squad this time
this team
grim portal
people says it better just leak it
severe oasis
absolutely 0 hitcount yeah i would leak left
pure oyster
i still have time to get more hp or shields maybe, i’m unsure
grim portal
get shield as much as you can