is-station

[prime mountain]

When you dont, YOU ALSO LOSE

[outer cliff]

so?

[main bison]

or I just get so frustrated I just want to quit

well, time is valuable for me

[prime mountain]

Use the mechanics given to you...

[rich thorn]

soon they will force man to go 245 d18 IS5

🥹

[outer cliff]

If you do nothing you still lose, so u might as well fuck around

[main bison]

and I don't have hours to lose learning every single minute of every single day

[main bison]

which is why I quit doing IS

[prime mountain]

Stop making excuses for yourself

I see you here all the time

[main bison]

well, help me then

[prime mountain]

I

AM

DOING

[main bison]

I don't even know what I'm looking at

[prime mountain]

THAT

[main bison]

and I appreciate that

I really do

[prime mountain]

I need a water break one moment

[main bison]

but when I don't even know the why behind the decisions, they're just kind of hollow

[prime mountain]

Thats what I'm trying to explain to you

[main bison]

that's fair, I understand the frustration

[gaunt bay]

Bro

[outer cliff]

If you do random things, literally anything, u might pick up stuff that gives you stats

[main bison]

and I'm slowly learning

[gaunt bay]

He literally said it

💀

[outer cliff]

if you stand there and do nothing your stats do not go up and you die

[arctic panther]

and if you dont get stats or said thing actively harms you, take note of that

[main bison]

if I place units in the wrong places and lose all my HP I die

so really doesn't matter

and most of the time I lose before I even know why

[outer cliff]

Even just flailing around like a monkey on a typewritter is better than standing there and letting the game stab u with a knife

[main bison]

well, when it feels like the game's ambushed me and I don't even know where the knife's coming from, it doesn't help

I don't blame the game

I just get braindead when I play

[rich thorn]

welp, thats a roguelike

mode

[main bison]

yeah, I'm aware

[rich thorn]

anything could go wrong

[main bison]

I've done every IS, every ending, every squad etc

but this one is taking me longer to figure out

and it's a lot to do with RL stuff, I don't have a ton of free time

[prime mountain]

The main things I see you struggle with is you dont take risks and dont get paid for it

[rich thorn]

the hardes thing here is prob tongbao trade

[prime mountain]

You need to understand the coins yes

[rich thorn]

and even then you can check tables

[main bison]

I had a free afternoon today, thinking I'd get this done in a few hours, but here we are 5 hours later and I'm still in F4

[prime mountain]

Coins are how you win is6

[main bison]

I get the coins

there's a lot of them I just don't want to deal with

so that's why I generally avoid the risk ones

[prime mountain]

Do something: do a run where you grab all the risk coins you see

just to learn

[rich thorn]

easiest one

[prime mountain]

What do they help with, what do they hurt with

[main bison]

WTF is that?

[prime mountain]

Advanced info you dont need to know yet

[main bison]

that looks like atoms or some crap

[rich thorn]

visual presentation of plan node tongbao trade

[prime mountain]

Kamael pls slow down he doesnt understand the basics yet

[main bison]

nevermind the lack of english

[rich thorn]

but he finished other is`es

[main bison]

like I know the basics, all of the rules etc

[arctic panther]

and take tourist squad, to allow you to get more coins

[main bison]

but I have no idea how to do anything with all of that information

great, I know the english alphabet, but I can't even spell my name, or even speak

that's what it's like

[prime mountain]

Ok here's the thing: Consider the upside vs downside of the coins

take bloodshed for example

-25% hp? kinda sucks for you

[gaunt bay]

Mei’s first law of integrated strategies

[prime mountain]

-45% hp for the enemies? REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY sucks for them

[main bison]

yeah, usually does suck

[prime mountain]

Its arguably the strongest coin in the game

[main bison]

ok, to stay focused on this run (because I have some IRL stuff that needs done)

what do I do now?

buy those coupons?

[gaunt bay]

Isn’t there a dcl2 coin with +1k base atk

[prime mountain]

Yeah there is

[gaunt bay]

That one’s way stronger

[prime mountain]

Your options are buy coupons and not refresh, spend them on f5 pathing

Or refresh and gamble for good relics

[rich thorn]

this one is ofk untradable from coffin?

[main bison]

I thought I was saving the candles F5 Bosky?

oh wait, you said pathing

[main bison]

this is what I was going to do originally

[prime mountain]

Yes to get pathfind + bosky on f5

Cause you got some vouchers saved

[main bison]

nothing too worthwhile though

but sure

so which is it, or is that my decision?

[prime mountain]

I'd like to know what you would do then I'll say what I would do

[main bison]

because I was planning on gambling on the refresh

take risks you said, right?

[prime mountain]

Risks do pay off sometimes yes

[main bison]

that's what I was going to do

I don't even like the fast my HP is that low

but we've already gone there

[prime mountain]

You got 8 coupons and not many coins to reroll for, so thats still 2 vertical paths on f6 I would just refresh and check what else is in shop tbh but either option would be fine

[rich thorn]

i would check first if there is good safe house with verticals

[main bison]

nothing looks appealing here to me

I'm at F4 Bosky (at the end)

[rich thorn]

so it could be 10 coupons into one more vertical

[prime mountain]

He cant, this is inside f4 bosky

[rich thorn]

oh, we talk bout bosky, not floor itself

[prime mountain]

Guiding light is like fine, you have no snipers so precision is useless

[main bison]

I also have to leave soon

[prime mountain]

[main bison]

this is really that good?

[prime mountain]

Pls come back I really wanna make you good player

[main bison]

well, I'll be back

I'm deploying tomorrow (military) and have to get some stuff done before I leave

[prime mountain]

You can place hoshi or leizi or something first and just get +50% attack and status resist

[main bison]

and it's time gated

[rich thorn]

teach me how to not flop on f4 at is5

ofk d18

[prime mountain]

🫡 hope everything goes well

[rich thorn]

🥹

[prime mountain]

huh f4 specifically its 50/50 just dont roll the shit maps 😭

I dont play is5

[main bison]

wife and kids went on vacation this morning, so it's just been me at home with the dogs most of the day

[rich thorn]

bruh

[main bison]

ok, Light it is

[rich thorn]

gl

[main bison]

time to get out of this shop

thanks, it's not my first deployment, and this one's stateside

so nothing too crazy

[rich thorn]

what about, normal frequent dispute into em

[main bison]

alright, left the shop

[rich thorn]

with lamp

[main bison]

F5 has started

[rich thorn]

(i tried, i slopped)

[main bison]

guess I can go top right into the Bosky

[gaunt bay]

Furrilo Will u make me a good player

🥺

[prime mountain]

This is why we wanted at least 6 candles, perfect.

[main bison]

been a minute since I've done this one

[prime mountain]

You're already good!!!

[gaunt bay]

Nop I’m slop

😢

[rich thorn]

show us your is5 and 6 stats screen

im sure ur better than me

[main bison]

ok, I either need to get going on this node, or get going for now

for some reason Raidian S3 comes to mind

but apparently the last time I decided to do a stage on my own, I failed miserably

[rich thorn]

ngl, if ur not confident with power but fine with picks i would choose shop instead of pathfinder

for more relics

[prime mountain]

I was gonna say just take both?

he has coupons for it

[main bison]

you saying take Pathfinder, then go down twice?

[rich thorn]

for both he needs 6 no? if triple fight

[main bison]

shop then Bosky?

[prime mountain]

He has 6?

...

[prime mountain]

Yeah shop could have decent value even at extra price

[main bison]

backside btw

[prime mountain]

Top > pathfind > op > trader > wonderland

[rich thorn]

sorry, 9 for 3 fights all pathfidner shop and bosky

[main bison]

also, I used to rob F1, so maybe that's why I'm struggling too Expansion 1

you don't do that anymore apparently

[prime mountain]

Yeah its def different curve

[main bison]

ok, so that first stage?

[prime mountain]

I always just do entel on left side, no idea how to raidian exu it

[main bison]

also, I was thinking top (Mangshan Town)

[rich thorn]

@prime mountain smthing like that

[main bison]

I don't have Entel

she's one of the few ops I don't have

[rich thorn]

or just right into EM and boss

after bosky

[main bison]

there's that too

[rich thorn]

🥀

never do that again

[main bison]

ok, if we can't decide something now (and that includes how to clear Mangshan), then I have to go (but will be back later)

I've gotta go somewhere that closes soon

[main bison]

yeah, not anymore, sadly I lost F1 shop the last time I tried

[rich thorn]

rob either f3 or f5

[main bison]

and that's why I play it safer

[prime mountain]

Yeah just come back later and take your time

[main bison]

when I can't even get to F3 boss

[rich thorn]

because next shop has whistle

[main bison]

that's the BS part

this sounds the same as the original BGM music?

yeah, even when I change them they don't restart

[rich thorn]

bugged for some people

[main bison]

I see

[rich thorn]

mine works fine

btw

@main bison did you got 3 nodes ?

[main bison]

ok, be back later on to finish

[rich thorn]

from this update skill tree

[main bison]

my tree is maxed

[rich thorn]

👍

[sly harness]

Rob f3

f3 rob is easy

You will die f4+

[main bison]

I don't even know how

anyway, be back later on

[rich thorn]

prob hardest rob for now

is6 f4+

[arctic panther]

wait only for some people??

[arctic panther]

yeah theres no music set to it

[rich thorn]

idk dude, mine is ok

sec ill try to record

huh

it was fine

rip then

[old fern]

Hi!! Not sure if this is the right channel, but does anyone have tips for beating Yi? I’m able to clear up to the final floor pretty consistently, but the flying paper bombs are always an issue. Tysm in advance!!

[prime mountain]

Common strats are Raidian s1 and just keeping him top lane while replacing summons often

Or something like Kal'tsit or Hoshi alt

[rich thorn]

so, even this could happen

[prime mountain]

Lmao cursed chest spawn

strikes again!!!

[rich thorn]

first time see 2 statuegests

[prime mountain]

Its EM variant

[rich thorn]

free moni anyway

or jebait yi with tragodia cat + gravel

[old fern]

Ahh I see. I’ve never recruited Kal or Hoshi alter in IS6; I’ll try out one of the things you mentioned next run! Ty!

[rich thorn]

why game wants me to take trag

[prime mountain]

Nah this is insta bloodshed pick

my goat

[midnight summit]

Hoshi alter or trag + gravel best stalls

[prime mountain]

Kal is more of a flex pick, hoshi alt is very consistent

Great at bosky stages too

[rich thorn]

but i already got bracelet

0 cd cat bomb

[prime mountain]

Ok but bloodshed

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

!

Consider

[rich thorn]

ofk bloodshed and die from foot skill issue

[prime mountain]

Bloodshed is actually ideal into ed2, cutting down both left side pressure and foot dps by a TON

[old fern]

Ohh I see. Everytime I usually go for Shu for healing. I’ll definitely try out the Hoshi pick next run ^^

[prime mountain]

Depends on your comp tbh, I take shu a lot too for guard vanguard where damage isnt a problem

Mostly going into ed2

[gleaming jewel]

is is5 genuinely harder than is6 or am i just dogshit without raidian there to carry me

[old fern]

Ah got it. By chance do you have any recommendations for good operators for IS5? I took a break from IS (after 4), and I only recently started getting back into the game mode.

[prime mountain]

Nah is5 way harder imo

[rich thorn]

yes, is5 is harder

[prime mountain]

is5 is VERY comp heavy, check this https://docs.google.com/document/d/157NX4DMfw9Md9woUqZb9rxIoz9XDB0Vioq2I9f5akao/edit?tab=t.0 out it has all the info you need

[carmine token]

its way harder if u dont pick flinger lamp

[old fern]

Ooh alright ty! Ill take a read (:

[rich thorn]

ffffffucking doubt

🥀

[carmine token]

[prime mountain]

Now immediately roll all CC relics

for 20s fear

👍

[rich thorn]

surely they not gonna run in blue box

[gleaming jewel]

so wait is higher diff/bigger challenges even playable without flinger BS?

[prime mountain]

Yeah it is

There's plenty of alternatives

Just not nearly as strong and consistent

[gleaming jewel]

the doc you linked makes it sound like i'm strapping myself to a chair by leg by not playing lamp lol

though i did find that greyy solves a lot of maps

[carmine token]

lamp is just so powerful bruh

4kings+ chalice every run

[gleaming jewel]

special shoutout to Ice Age, i have no idea how to beat that shit without greyy

[prime mountain]

You are!

Welcome to is5

Forced to play lamp

[gleaming jewel]

and still no idea how to beat the challenge mode of Ice Age

(tips?)

[outer cliff]

lamp

[carmine token]

born to play talons SUH

[rich thorn]

just talons shop squad

[carmine token]

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

I tried

I really did

its so ass

1/3 chance of your run being dead on start because you didnt roll discounted shops or rare relics upgrade 😭

[rich thorn]

on what diff

[prime mountain]

I only play d18 ofc

[carmine token]

cuz u are, ur self torturing urself if dont pick it

[sly harness]

Discount is fake

Rare is the big one

[prime mountain]

discount at least has some value

[midnight summit]

Omg the goated relic that saved me 2 runs on f3

[prime mountain]

3 ingots per shop is nothing

[midnight summit]

[sly harness]

But idk haven't played Talon's much

Like 3 or 4 full runs

[prime mountain]

one of which was a giga highroll with that one encounter relic

forgor the name

[sly harness]

(iirc all without an upgraded shop)

Yep

Something Gate

[prime mountain]

Rhoder's gate!

[sly harness]

Idk how to spell that

Tbf just skip shop upgrade and be better

Or -999 tech

Fortunately refarming investment is easy in IS5

[rich thorn]

if only it was the same in prev is...

[sly harness]

Fortunately the IS3 system is nice

IS2 one though

[midnight summit]

We dont talk about is2

[sly harness]

What

[midnight summit]

How are you even in negatives if your balance is higher

[outer cliff]

What

How did u even do that

[rich thorn]

you know what, mask is ass

on yu

s2 cant do shit

[sly harness]

Guys, cat spam is over, now we spam Hoshi S3

[rich thorn]

💀

[gaunt bay]

nice going hg

[sly harness]

draw also turns the operator into a Cadguest

Dog

btw

[main bison]

ok, I'm back

lets finish this run so I can pack my bags

[sly harness]

I am still on f3

[rich thorn]

smol bosky

[main bison]

ok, someone wanna help me?

@prime mountain I'm back!

[sly harness]

Completed on f3

[sly harness]

Normal or EM?

[main bison]

this one's normal

[sly harness]

So two lanes are kinda banned by talisman

Don't deploy anything on Statuegeist lanes before you turn them off

Killing them is unrealistic unless you rolled incredibly high

[prime mountain]

I think this is like, exu2 right side? Use trag cat to stall everyone on left alongside mizuki or something

[sly harness]

The floor in this stage is very dangerous because of the enemies with global range they spawn on the right

[sly harness]

Sounds good

Exu will burst the stuff on the right and everything else on left

[tidal raptor]

My surtr didn’t even dent the tide hunt knight bruh

Is it a leveling issue or she just can’t

[sly harness]

Freez

[prime mountain]

Despite surtr being hot, she gets frozen 🙁

[tidal raptor]

But this was when the knight was charging

[sly harness]

Still freez

Even more freez iirc

[prime mountain]

Longer freeze!

[tidal raptor]

What can I do about it

[main bison]

ok, so right box lane is Exu, left side is everyone else?

[tidal raptor]

So that’s the issue

I put W at left side

[prime mountain]

Pretty much, keep the talisman lanes cleared and thats about it

[main bison]

ok

[sly harness]

Lemuen

[main bison]

how do I even reach those?

[sly harness]

Or find a way to permanently stall him

[main bison]

face Exu to the right so she can hit both of them?

[sly harness]

Like I said killing them is not realistic

[main bison]

but I lose HP, no?

[sly harness]

Unless you rolled super high

[main bison]

not really

[sly harness]

Or have like Logos

[prime mountain]

Yeah I think you just take the hp loss

its fine

[tidal raptor]

Kk.

[sly harness]

They have like 360 000 effective HP

[rich thorn]

im usually explode em with raidian or wis

but need dmg for that

[sly harness]

On EM 720 000

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-tragodia-phantom-gif-9706919748411660492

he's right there

use him

[arctic panther]

stall for all eternity

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270181534441406464/1439414045047525637/Phantom-Arknights-Arknights--9153891.gif

[main bison]

Exu got both

then I redeployed her

[sly harness]

Actually Amiya Medic can be an option (still requires a higher roll)

But unironically Logos should be the best solution for them

[rich thorn]

cran op

can nuke statuegists and take her back

[main bison]

save this so I have Hope to E2 Hoshi, or just go ahead and get her E2?

[rich thorn]

you can just spam s1 summons on yi

[main bison]

the floor layout

and here I just use S2 for her always

[rich thorn]

ur on mangshang ye?

[main bison]

I just did it, yes

guess I could save it and do the pathfinder, duh

problem solves itself

[rich thorn]

yeah

[main bison]

most of the time I forget where I'm at

[rich thorn]

then down to shop and into bosky

[main bison]

had I not saved the earlier...

[rich thorn]

and check if shop has good relics

[main bison]

Amiya?

or no?

[rich thorn]

thats a last pathfinder

so methink yes

[main bison]

this one's always been a bit hit or miss for me

[rich thorn]

at least its not EM

[main bison]

sure

there's only 1 emergency on this floor

[rich thorn]

maybe dalaos here suggest how they do this shit

[main bison]

I want to say I stack everyone lower right

but I lack Wisadel this run, so there's that

actually, no Sniper drafts at all

[rich thorn]

because im just

and checking what relics are, if bad then raidian s2, if good then s3 spam

trag usually upper right 4th deploy and killing beasts

and para dusk dragon

im sure there is better solution

[rich thorn]

nice, shoes

[pure oyster]

Ugh my vanguard is too expensive

[sly harness]

If relicless Raidian S1

[main bison]

hate that stage

same as above though?

and was that trag in the upper right?

[pure oyster]

Yea it sucks

[rich thorn]

i never do this shit if no agents or low sp raidian

🥀

[sly harness]

Your vanguard is not an vanguard

This can't print dp

[pure oyster]

i thought i'd try dropping fang2 on the ammo supply enemy

never got the chance though

[prime mountain]

13 dp vanguard 🥀 what is this

[sly harness]

Just kill Sui open it with solo Exu and finish it with Raidian or just Raidian solo if you have 0 DP summons

[rich thorn]

no start dp relic/vanguards - ded

[prime mountain]

Nope p3 leizi opens!!!

[sly harness]

He is super tanky

[pure oyster]

oh

[sly harness]

p2

[rich thorn]

dalaos

[pure oyster]

ok well i had no chance

[rich thorn]

help Ender with dusk stage

[sly harness]

Just kill Sui

Then DP won't be an issue

[pure oyster]

is fire poking stick worth 3/4th of my ingots (i have 30 ingots)

[sly harness]

Imo yes, always

The 0 DP is very strong

[pure oyster]

what does it have to do with DP?

[main bison]

patiently waiting

[sly harness]

Nevermind

Wait

[prime mountain]

I think hoshi + haruka can just stall dragon for a while, leizi s2 in middle and raidian summons and stuff to just kill everything

[sly harness]

I got confused

Doing 2 things at once

Yyyy

Depends how much it would be

[pure oyster]

no worries, fire poking stick is "attacks on apparition enemies deals an additional 50% arts damage"

[rich thorn]

no hoshi

[sly harness]

It is most there to cook the hit count

Everything will become a double hit with it

[pure oyster]

oh

[sly harness]

The actual DPS increase probably isn't insane

[pure oyster]

it seems like it'd make much of Yi battle very easy (a lot of those enemies are apparitions right?)

[slate hull]

the list of everything that is an apparition is massive

it is like easily 80% of the enemies in is6

[pure oyster]

oh nice, i took it

it was 22 ingots

[main bison]

that was easy

[main bison]

worked

neither?

also Specialist

I suspect I'll have to E2 Hoshi in F7 Bosky

[pure oyster]

risk-myriad aspects seems kinda neat with leizi2

[prime mountain]

Myriad aspects is funny but not quite good and its way too late to get value out of megamus but PLEASE GET RID OF THE COIN YOU HAVE TOSSED RN

Read what it does

Like just grab any of those 2 coins just to get rid of the one you have active

[rich thorn]

take megamus instead of useless tongbao

because you have interdep

+1 coupon

[prime mountain]

Worse than useless even

[main bison]

I could take none?

[prime mountain]

no

You take here

[main bison]

but I'm on the Specialist draft right now

[prime mountain]

Wathev doesnt matter just dont spend hope

You got the core already

[main bison]

then Megamus?

[prime mountain]

Yeah

2 reasons: it gives you a coupon and you get rid of the coin you currently have tossed

[main bison]

yeah

[prime mountain]

which is giving you -life points while being tossed

[main bison]

I saw that

ok, so Trader?

[rich thorn]

yep

then bosky

[prime mountain]

What would you take here

[rich thorn]

hm, flute is + hope

[main bison]

Flute

[rich thorn]

and carrier is + dp

[main bison]

but I can't refresh

Conch is nice

[prime mountain]

There's another obvious instant pick here

[main bison]

Quickbeast

[prime mountain]

Yep

[rich thorn]

||yanese||

[prime mountain]

He has exu ig its isnt the worst thing

[rich thorn]

[main bison]

Yanese was another that I saw

Flute would ensure I have hope for E2 Hoshi

[rich thorn]

ye, if not exu draft its useless

[prime mountain]

Also you see glorious kazimierz

[main bison]

not sure how important that is

[prime mountain]

You see why the 55% dodge coin

[main bison]

yes, but who can dodge?

[prime mountain]

would be good

That risk coin from earlier

[main bison]

but it's not up

[prime mountain]

You might re-toss after bosky

[rich thorn]

you will enter bosky

[prime mountain]

and still have a coupon to try it

[main bison]

right

[prime mountain]

And will get more coupons from interdependant

[main bison]

so get it?

[prime mountain]

You have plenty of money you can grab most of these

[rich thorn]

flute for sure i think

[prime mountain]

Flute for sure, extra hope is neat

[rich thorn]

carrier is welp, extra dp on start

and you can either yanese or use moni in tavern

[main bison]

it doesn't seem awful

[rich thorn]

in bosky

[prime mountain]

I think you can skip sedan, got surfer and myrtle yeah?

[main bison]

yes

[prime mountain]

prob fine

[main bison]

both Candleguests

think I counted 9

[rich thorn]

you already fine for yi

even if facetank

[main bison]

Conch for HP?

[rich thorn]

because haruka here

[main bison]

I was worried about Hoshi tanking

and it's ending 4

so alter ed1

[prime mountain]

I would grab snack basket here for some easier bosky fights later on f6

Cause you're doing ed4 right?

[main bison]

yeah

but basket, really?

[rich thorn]

wait, then ye

bosky save candle, not use them

[main bison]

correct

saving here

[prime mountain]

Yeah that was the plan

[rich thorn]

and save some ignots for bonus candle

[main bison]

isn't it like 30?

or is it more than that?

[prime mountain]

Its at least 30 yes

[rich thorn]

you can enter it more times

[prime mountain]

First one gives more

[worn plank]

yo is sakiko good in is 6?

[main bison]

I thought it was one time?

or am I thinking of something else

[rich thorn]

just generic dps

[rich thorn]

nope, you can enter

but if i remember, first gives 3 candle, next is only 2

[prime mountain]

That is correct

[prime mountain]

The ingot one can be repeated, others cant

but it gives only 2 on repeats

[rich thorn]

actually good when you have both +hp and cocoon coins

[pure oyster]

I can’t believe I ever thought this stage was hard (this feels like cheating)

[rich thorn]

normal is ok, EM is just annoying

cuz stealth

[pure oyster]

ah yea i've done that one

i think i leaked 1 or 2 that time

[rich thorn]

i dont like manmade

i dont like manmade

fuck it

[gleaming jewel]

power of knowledge

[rich thorn]

BUT I STILL PREFER IT OVER OUT OF CONTROL

[main bison]

ok, so move on then?

nothing else to buy here?

[rich thorn]

yep

[prime mountain]

Yeah you still wanna keep some ingots for f6

[main bison]

emergency

I feel like this one can get dicey if I can't clear the right side remotely

[rich thorn]

can use raidian for that

[main bison]

guys in the back

S3 or S2?

for Raidian

[rich thorn]

s3

[main bison]

wish me luck then

[rich thorn]

just bait all in 1 place with trag, place 2-3 summons and

nuke em

[main bison]

I usually have Exu and Raidian on the left side

[prime mountain]

Exu left sure but raidian summons targeting right is best

[main bison]

I've used Amiya in the middle to get right before too

[prime mountain]

with trag to just group them all

[main bison]

ok, I'll give that a shot

[rich thorn]

mizuki and hoshi center

to stop cars if you dont finish them in time

gl

[prime mountain]

Watch for the talismans btw, if you can use exu to kill the statuegeist do it

[main bison]

got that Hoshi recruitment too

[pure oyster]

EM Shanhaizhong Scramble was more annoying than i expected. i wasn't expecting the lizard guys to pop out of the statuegeist

[main bison]

that left one doesn't look so good

[arctic panther]

i thought the statuegeists spawned cars?

[main bison]

right isn't much though

the statue was on the top/middle

[prime mountain]

Yeah never take left unless you have interdependant and can get rid of it asap

which would be right now

because you're not gonna toss it for boss and you get a coin from the boss

So its free coupon

[main bison]

so get it?

[prime mountain]

Yeah and remember to get rid of it post f5 boss

[rich thorn]

yeah, just in fucking time to get shuttle

[prime mountain]

Hey it could go hard on f6 bosky!!!

Get full hp refresh legend and just get cooking

[main bison]

ok, so boss time

can I stall with Hoshi/Haruka like normal?

I know the map's laid out differently, and last time I did this I only leaked 3

[prime mountain]

Should be able to

You know the ed1 alt enemies yeah?

[main bison]

no

I always just focused on Yi

[rich thorn]

eh, i would rather facetank that shit

[main bison]

and never really minded much else

[rich thorn]

with haru

[main bison]

only possible downside is if those stupid aura guys spawn

oh, they don't on alt

[prime mountain]

Still bring raidian s1 in case hoshi dies and you need emergency stall

[rich thorn]

there is invis enemies

[main bison]

yeah, got Trag too

[main bison]

no Ines

[prime mountain]

Raidian s1 top left with exu to spawncamp everything should work

[main bison]

so what's the play? last time I did this, I put Hoshi on bottom box

[prime mountain]

Hoshi on top stalling boss with haruka right side to heal

[main bison]

guess I need to pull up the map

but game doesn't show it

oh now it does

[main bison]

it didn't before

[rich thorn]

use tomimi for that

[main bison]

I hadn't cleared the prophecy node yet

ok, so Haruka on the box between the black and white on the right side, and Hoshi middle right?

and spawn camp the top left?

what about the bottom left/right side?

[pure oyster]

oh dear... is that a variant to ed1?

[main bison]

yes

happens when you do ed4

[pure oyster]

ah

[main bison]

maybe Tragodia on the top right?

[prime mountain]

No he would die from the Yi summons

[main bison]

ya know, I could just stream this?

[prime mountain]

Just put mizuki on blue box

[rich thorn]

if good hp

can just do that

[prime mountain]

Yeah actually pls show relics

[main bison]

oh, I thought we were doing Haru up top?

[rich thorn]

its just no bait strat

facetanking

[main bison]

that looks like death to me

so how's that facetanking?

[rich thorn]

dude

you have mask

[prime mountain]

Yeah hoshi is not dying

[rich thorn]

your only problem will be only ghosts

[main bison]

but everyone else would be

from Yi spawns

[prime mountain]

Ghosts converge on middle bottom so stall up top

for ed1 alt

its kinda weird

[main bison]

I'm sorry what?

so follow what's above?

[prime mountain]

Keep the strat of just stall up top

[main bison]

with Hoshi/Haruka?

[prime mountain]

yeah

[rich thorn]

stall will be uh

or hoshi on g8?

@prime mountain

[prime mountain]

No just put her on h7

[rich thorn]

isnt it

[prime mountain]

keep her far from haruka so you dont blow up to the summons

[rich thorn]

undeployable tile

[prime mountain]

Oh fuck its ed1 alt

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I forgor

[rich thorn]

bruh

🤣

[prime mountain]

Lemme check map

[prime mountain]

Yeah you could stall right next to stairs with a trag cat bait but idk how you set that up

[main bison]

??

use Miziki for those mentioned above

or even Ethan for that matter

[rich thorn]

only problem could be

[prime mountain]

I do think you want mizuki bottom left to make sure you dont randomly leak

[rich thorn]

some ghosts go diagonal

[prime mountain]

And that setup above dies to the casters on left side, they would just get stuck perma shooting raidian or trag

You really want exu facing up top on left side

[rich thorn]

and hoshi deploy only after you lure yi there

to block him

[iron orchid]

wow free Yan op

[main bison]

ok

can I get away with Mizuki S1, or keep him on S2?

[rich thorn]

s2 better

because you can jump into spearheads var

or dogz var

[prime mountain]

You always want s2

[rich thorn]

also, dont forget to see when yi starts ghost spam

[prime mountain]

sometimes s3

[main bison]

that didn't work

lost Haruka

and Yi went down there with a quickness

[rich thorn]

prob was slow to get her skill

[prime mountain]

This is why we dont draft haruka

[main bison]

she literally never used it

[prime mountain]

she has one job

still fails at it

[rich thorn]

wtf

no trag deploy

[main bison]

didn't get a chance to

[pure oyster]

that looks hard

[rich thorn]

still have chance to finish it

cuz raidian not dead

[prime mountain]

Put leizi in middle

to clear casters

[main bison]

a lot of things are happening right now

[carmine token]

does nothing until skill, fraud op

[main bison]

Hoshi's basically kind of useless

[carmine token]

[prime mountain]

Why is gravel there, remove her put mizuki

[rich thorn]

@prime mountain thats why exu face up is ass

[prime mountain]

???

What is she supposed to do in middle

[rich thorn]

up is trash

[carmine token]

ed1a is just ed1 map but shorter 😭😭😭

[rich thorn]

cover both lanes ofk

[prime mountain]

He has mizuki for bottom

Prob wanna pivot to stall on the bottom left for yi on phase 2 if possible

[rich thorn]

lest start from what he tried to stall with hoshi on H9 while trag wasnt deployed

because yi never goes there without s2 cat bait, so you need to lure him here

[main bison]

oh no

the dragons are gonna leak

no one could take them out from that side

[main bison]

since when?

FML

that run's over

I didn'tknow what to do with the dragons

those ones on the right

8 1/2hrs wasted

[prime mountain]

Oh you rolled dragons 🥀

[prime mountain]

Dont consider it a waste you learned a lot

[main bison]

after Yi went the wrong way, I just stalled until I could face tank him

he wasn't the worst of my worries, it was those dragons

[prime mountain]

Also may I suggest a squad other than the raidian one

[main bison]

I still do not know how to deal with them

I mean you could, but it probably wouldn't do much good

[prime mountain]

Do you have the new risk coin one unlocked? that starts with the 40% sp thing?

[main bison]

the end goal is to do ed4 on every squad

uh, I dunno

[prime mountain]

Its like get 20 risk coins in any run which you dont take them so maybe not actually

[main bison]

this one?

[main bison]

I have not unlocked that squad, no

though I thought that was total 20 risk coins

well, done with that for a few days

maybe I'll try again once it resets for the month

if I have time that is

[rich thorn]

prob could place trag in place of exu and cover down path with exu

and that wave is random

[pure oyster]

bring more life point and leak the dragons

[prime mountain]

Try doing a run as I said where you just take every risk coin you see

good or bad

just to see how it plays out

[rich thorn]

stage is ass for 1 reason

diagonal kamikaze spirits

[lament berry]

Is it better to E2 Raidian at the start with Special Squad or is recruiting Trag better? Only at d6

[rich thorn]

depends, if ed2 raidian better, if ed1 trag

[lament berry]

Ah OK, I've gotta do the ed1 mission so I'll go for Trag thanks

[rich thorn]

ye, and then promote raidian first for turmoils

[main bison]

good to know, and I failed on the start by not holding Hoshi where I wanted her

unless Yi doesn't go to that tile?

[rich thorn]

like i said

you need to bait him with cat there

[main bison]

will he go to H9 on spawn?

oh, I see what you meant by that now

[rich thorn]

before dropping hoshi on that tile to block him

haru could survive, but you either time her s2 when he use ghosts to not die from them

or block ghosts on hoshi and haru lane with raidian summons

or like we talked before, just facetank at bluebox with haru and hoshi without baiting

and block with raidian summons ghosts to take less dmg

[vagrant tiger]

I don’t if it’s Just because I don’t use borrowed units, but I really don’t enjoy IS

[sinful sparrow]

okay...? that's weird to say out of the blue

[vagrant tiger]

A bit, yeah

Just felt like saying it

That and I Tried to play IS3 a bit, farthest I got was the floor 3 boss

[remote badger]

just fuck around and find out, for a while

[vagrant tiger]

I did, played for about an hour and a half

Or is that not long enough at all

[remote badger]

not

[vagrant tiger]

Got it

To note, the only time I have beaten an IS was 6, but I was handheld through the entire run, so I don’t really count it

[quick steppe]

i mean at the core IS is just a pretty box heavy mode
you can play without borrowed units you just have to have the whole draft in your box

[vagrant tiger]

https://www.krooster.com/u/real-beige-aak-33l4

Here’s what I have

[pure oyster]

Easiest yi fight of my life

[gaunt bay]

when is yi ever not easy

[pure oyster]

I’m still climbing the difficulty ladder (this was d7)

I’m still trying to figure out which raidian skill makes sense in which cases but it seems like S2 is the most generally useful one unless I specifically want to deploy them on ranged tiles or need to hit aerial enemies

[old geyser]

yeah, I find s3 more useful in main game content but s2 is the better one for most IS6 stages.

s3 is good when you want your full firepower covering multiple lanes simultaneously

[remote badger]

basically

[arctic panther]

when you're e0 lv1 sl1 only

[remote badger]

all of her skills r useable

in is6

but depends on what stage is it

[pure oyster]

True but I feel like s2 is default for me

Unless I have a reason to use s1 or s3

[old geyser]

shoutout to s1 on The Four Difficulties

[remote badger]

hoshialt copeable

[old geyser]

and sometimes Strange Tales

[arctic panther]

unless its spiked chest varient

[old geyser]

spiked chest variant is the funniest map in the game

[gaunt bay]

its generally her strongest yea

[pure oyster]

I noticed that the wiki doesn’t have the new is6 maps yet 😔

[remote badger]

tomimi.dev?

they alr have the new maps way before

[pure oyster]

Oh thanks

I’m still somewhat new to Arknights. Don’t know all the sites

[split void]

Just did end2 Can I have end4 guide?
Just how to get there. I watched eckogen vid but don't totally get it

[fickle jungle]

the first shop you see in bosky, it will always sell unsealed case. Buy it
then look for a scout node and path into it
the scout will have an extra option
choose an op to scout (use a random one because you will not see the scouted op until you fight ed4 boss stage)

on f6 there will be a special bosky that let you scout more op to fight ed4 so it is advisable to start saving candles on f5

[split void]

Okay okay. So not like i have to use entire different team for Ed 4

That is good to hear

[low whale]

Oh my god bro this is the worst collectible ever

[crystal niche]

You don't want them feet bro

[grim portal]

I'm in IS6 diff 11, i want to do the ending 3, on my final node before the boss in floor 5, i got this options, which one do i need to choose? And does the special battle option tricky to do?

[quick steppe]

take the unflinching masterplan option

its a bit of a roster check

as long as you have big aoe ground units itll be fine

[sinful sparrow]

Clarity is a cute fight

[grim portal]

This is my first ending 3 run, so i want to rush complete it at least, since im not that lucky on most of high difficulty runs

[sinful sparrow]

would it make you feel better if i say d11 is low diff

[grim portal]

This is high enough for me

[old geyser]

if you're challenging ending 3 at all you're already doing better than 85% of players

[brittle grove]

Ed3? Really?

[faint rampart]

😔 players...or rather resource farmers/d12 medal creatures

[old geyser]

https://i.gyazo.com/0be600f55bf5383b57f34fdc4c21091e.png

actually thats probably a major underestimate because these stats dont include players who can't clear d0, which is apparently a lot of them

[brittle grove]

Yea this tell nothing

[woeful anchor]

yeah the avg player sux

wcyd

[lost flicker]

Good Lord IS is such a funny game mode

The boss didn't even make it to him, he died to my sacrifice units on the left

[remote badger]

it literally means nothing

[brittle grove]

200 200 based

[cold fern]

why my raidian summon sometime takes deployment limit and sometimes ignore it? (I have the proficiency that should always ignore deploy limit)

[old geyser]

the proficiency doesnt take full effect until later floors

[cold fern]

and what floor is later floor? f3 f4 or f5?

[paper notch]

floor 4 is where you start getting 0 deployment slot summons

[cold fern]

aight thank you

[old geyser]

F1: -9 DP cost
F2: can deploy 5 at a time
F3: +35 ASPD
F4: doesnt take up deploy limit

[sly harness]

This is very satisfying, the dragon breaking all Statuegeists for you

[split void]

How do you set this up

I let out some dragon but kinda

[sly harness]

You need to stall one of the masters a bit

And don't destroy too many Statuegeist early

They have 60k HP base, dragon deals 8k damage

[old geyser]

I always just blast them down with Raidian s2

[sly harness]

The hard part in this setup is killing the bear fast

[remote badger]

bear just literally delete the roadblocks near blue box

[sly harness]

Letting him break one is fine but after that the stage becomes too open

[grim portal]

that stage is like wisadel everything or retreating because of bad lineup

[sly harness]

Not really

Although it is something that you should usually just take on f4

[grim portal]

yes way for me, especially with under 3 HP after going to bosky to trade HP for relic

[sly harness]

HP? But you don't lose Life Points in turmoila

[grim portal]

the shop nodes

[remote badger]

thats the obvious

[grim portal]

yeah i gamba my run with HP

[remote badger]

-# ed4 relic

[sly harness]

I mean who needs LPs

Just use them to get damage and don't leak

[faint rampart]

if you were to ban ops in IS4
would it be the same top 3 exu wis trag?🤔

[gaunt bay]

meow

[remote badger]

meow

[remote badger]

nah i'd use the sgl2 ruleset

[faint rampart]

📝 will have to check what that is

[sly harness]

ig you can check this

https://arknightspvp.miraheze.org/wiki/Skywalking_Global_League_2#Ban_List

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/976478719499718757.webp?size=48&name=Binoculars

thanks

[chrome tangle]

sending earthquakes

to ellets

[faint rampart]

~1 week break from school and shits, youre so kind😇

[arctic panther]

aw man, now i want my own earthquake

[faint rampart]

send ur location in dms, ill surely forward it to birb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894037371740377108.png?size=48

[sinful sparrow]

play sgl2 ruleset

with only operators availble during that time

[midnight summit]

Sounds rough

Still possible but rough

[faint rampart]

🫡

[sharp pike]

Dif 9 next

[faint rampart]

congrats

[woeful anchor]

hear me out
exu trag ange

ange > wis for 2/2a 3a
wis > ange for 4/4a only

3 isnt real

😇

though i think mayb wish is better ther

[white stratus]

First time with 0 knowledge
almost explode because of this one

[sly harness]

Not exploding to this on your first try is surprising

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099414735193129030/1436236987592871936/IMG_6136.gif

[brittle grove]

Dude has focus sash

[gaunt bay]

Wis kinda whatever in is4

[faint rampart]

i guess
shes mentioned, dunno about modless Ange performance (assuming not the best)

[gaunt bay]

Generic damage/laneholder

[faint rampart]

is she not the top sniper pick

[gaunt bay]

Kinda but that doesn’t really say a lot

Actually lemuen might be more worth

Or Ray

I personally really don’t like playing lemuen since she does absolutely jack shit en route

[sly harness]

Who still solves most of the en route relicless

Sniper voucher also is quite dead in IS4

[faint rampart]

damn bruh wtf🥀

[gaunt bay]

Lem Ray are fantastic in 4

[sly harness]

Ray is washed ig Lem is a pick

[gaunt bay]

En route gets goobed by exu ange mizuki nowadays

I think wis is too expensive dp cost wise to do shit

🥀

[sly harness]

Also idk I wonder how real this is. In ed2 I can see that Angelina can help with the boss but other than that.... ig her skill cycle is better suited for lane holding

I don't know the timing of these stages well enough

Give me a good d18 then I will consider learning them

[outer cliff]

angelina + mizuki is a fun pairing

[gaunt bay]

Like I honestly think dp cost is a huge factor in is4

If I don’t have flag and ines I just cba to spend 24 dp on a fucker

It actually does make a difference on winning or not

[sly harness]

Perma lock of up to 5 targets

[outer cliff]

Passively doing 120% atk/s sitting there is cool

[vale cradle]

I'm gonna kill sui

[sly harness]

Saki the Sui killer 🥀

[midnight summit]

Why in monthly squad

[midnight summit]

Actually

Is it possible to burst both phases on d0 with saki

Like hyperbuffing and highrolling

[sly harness]

You can do it on d15

Like IS6 isn't real now

I was using Hoshi altar to kill Sui solo (in ed2a), the boss has 50 RES for context

[chrome tangle]

oh we have alters in IS6 now?

[faint rampart]

yea with ed4

[sly harness]

Yes but ed1 is as slop as always and ed2a is easier then normal ed2

[carmine token]

ed1 alter is just shorter ed1

[chrome tangle]

goated

[sly harness]

It isn't shorter

[carmine token]

map wise

[sly harness]

[vale cradle]

can exu2 and hoshi alter duo sui

[sly harness]

Exu2 can solo