is-station

[quick steppe]

atp basically confirmed infinite tbh

[midnight summit]

2 offrec relics and stirfry

[quick steppe]

go enjoy your unlimited resources

[rich thorn]

ye, but i still need to setup box

and not flop before that

[quick steppe]

something like this maybe

weiqi and steel and soil can be changed I think

[crude leaf]

what the..

how the.. am I missing something?

I havent even beaten is6 yet

[sick mason]

I never have that many flower coins in a coffer damn

[rich thorn]

thats called rigging and exchange mechanic abuse

🥹

damn

game just wants something

[midnight summit]

3 leisures

Ling?

Ling?

[sonic sable]

Is it even possible to tank the ed4 boss at d15? Bro almost one shotted my matterhorn

[midnight summit]

[sonic sable]

[midnight summit]

I mean if you don't lowroll hp or def relics-

[rich thorn]

prob dont need ling

cuz flower

[midnight summit]

Would be better with ling

[sly harness]

Pov you just entered ed4 Bosky

[sonic sable]

Idk my matterhorn had like 7k hp

[sly harness]

Casual +130% ATK and +500 ASPD

[sonic sable]

Still could not tank

[midnight summit]

Better healer then

Haru urara ka

[sonic sable]

Also the fights in that bosky r cancerous

Like wtf

[rich thorn]

wow

[midnight summit]

I don't believe it can be THAT cancerous

[rich thorn]

stir fry at first bosky shop

op

[midnight summit]

[sly harness]

they are so peak

[midnight summit]

Wtf mimics hello

[rich thorn]

also funny

[grave vine]

quick question, for IS3 d15, how good is regional commission vs scout node if my rejection is metastatic aberration (50% all stats)?

[sly harness]

commissions are very unreliable, you can get like use 3 key or 6 dices and never get the resources for that

also the best reward from them is 12 Shields

[paper notch]

dont they have one for like 6 hope?

[grave vine]

does the reward options contain stuff like collectables?

[paper notch]

wiki says 3 hope and a elite HR voucher

not exactly 6

[sly harness]

Random collectible has less value than 12 shields because it can be useless and shields are very important in stages like em ooc or em wfu

[grave vine]

regional commission only appears once right?

so is wonderland?

[rich thorn]

for this EM shit, raidian s3 and place on lane where talismans not spawning?

[sly harness]

wonderland yes not sure about commissions

S2

[paper notch]

s2 and spam them

[rich thorn]

[crude leaf]

lost to izumik

damn

[paper notch]

is6 prefers raidian s2 in general. there's only few exceptions to that tbh

[grave vine]

if I am playing sniper medic squad in IS3 with wis open and aberration rejection, having the cure is better for me right? compared to say scout node an infected ines?

[sly harness]

point 3 up to kill the Porcupines (then retreat them)
1 for Statuegeist
1/2 for sheep and add another one from behind to kill these rocks
1/3 in lane to kill the boars

[crude leaf]

just use ines s1?

[sly harness]

time the skill with the boars mainly

[crude leaf]

oh wait

anyways I have skill issue

I cant figure out how to avoid izumik shitty explosion

[midnight summit]

"A few" kinda understatement

[rich thorn]

god damn

where is mango

[paper notch]

the main exceptions you are forced into using s3

[rich thorn]

[paper notch]

like you literally cant use s2

[midnight summit]

S1 stallnights

[sly harness]

I would say that the ratio is 5/55/40 (I've never calculated)

[grave vine]

any opinion?

[midnight summit]

More like 6/64/30 to me

[prime mountain]

Looks more like a 7/72/21 to me idk

[paper notch]

yeee

[grave vine]

the 6/64

[midnight summit]

S1 is really useful

[grave vine]

even better we have a 7/72/21 now

[sly harness]

there are also some stages (mainly those outside of bosky) where S2 and S3 work equally well

[midnight summit]

Ye bosky prio is s3

[paper notch]

equally well but s2 is less brain usage

like less chance to fail

[halcyon flame]

The sudden urge to play Archetto m3 bosky stages has struck me suddenly

[sly harness]

[grave vine]

like, you guys can actually pinpoint down to the nearest 1%?

[midnight summit]

Thats the point of using it wtf

[paper notch]

there's a couple stages outside bosky where i have used s3 before then switched to s2 later just because it's more consistent even tho both work

[sly harness]

the best class squad comp currently ig (rest got banned for being to strong)

[paper notch]

😭

[sly harness]

i did my first 23 post dlc1 with it

quite nice

[midnight summit]

Pretty hard tho. I need to check every individual stage to say that

[halcyon flame]

Wcyd snp is poverty tier compared to the other class options

At least dlc2 m3 and reedic become even better picks

[sick mason]

This toss feels funny

[halcyon flame]

Return to IS4/IS5 form

[paper notch]

is it cuz they are better for the ed5 boss?

[halcyon flame]

Shouldve tossed 30% atk and rdp time

Reedic also has good mu into ed2

[nimble sequoia]

The more I read the IS guide, the more I feel that my roster is not ready for it

[halcyon flame]

IS3 and 4 are very roster dependent

IS6 you can borrow every op you need

Aka exu

[sick mason]

Well maybe coz IS is almost an endgame mode

IS5 is where you go crazy with relic farms

[halcyon flame]

Fake endgame nowadays because of relic overdose

[quick steppe]

real endgame

[halcyon flame]

Shut up tree man

🪓

[quick steppe]

[sick mason]

Choppa

[halcyon flame]

Gonna RA tree cutter you

[outer cliff]

The true endgame is riic base gains

[halcyon flame]

True endgame is building all ur ops

Yes level 90 vigil is very necessary to my roster

[nimble sequoia]

I want to do a casual clear of IS2 (at level 0)
I don't know how many 6 star do I need tho
Cuz the last time I died at floor 3

[outer cliff]

0

[halcyon flame]

Borrow Wisadele and your good

And read boss mechanic

Aka his dodge one

[outer cliff]

Your going to crash and burn a lot til u figure the mechanics out

[halcyon flame]

If your interested in seeing stages before entering them though

Head over to tomimi.dev

[midnight summit]

S1 - 1.25, 0, 0, 0, 0
S2 - 4.5, 4.75, 4, 7, 2.5, 2.5
S3 - 0.5, 1.25, 2, 0, 4.5, 1.5
Bosses:
S1 - 0, 0.83
S2 - 4, 3.83
S3 - 2, 1.33
Encounter+shop rob fights:
S1 - 0.25, 1
S2 - 9, 1
S3 - 2.75
Pathfinder:
S1 - 0.5
S2 - 3
S3 - 1.5
Bosky:
S1 - 2.2
S2 - 14.4
S3 - 10.4

THERE IS A FUCKING BEAR ON F5?!?

[paper notch]

is this by floor?

[midnight summit]

Yea

[paper notch]

what are you using s3 so much on in f5??

[midnight summit]

I like s3 since i have melee ops mostly

[errant siren]

On Expansion 2

BUT YES

https://tenor.com/view/bear-breakcore-camera-face-mouth-open-gif-27070534

[idle raptor]

Ok i've reach ending 2 but how do you deal with the mobs from right side?

[halcyon flame]

Muted Past, Unlit Sparks, Green Hills

[idle raptor]

could anything solos the lane

[halcyon flame]

I forgot all the other ones ngl

[errant siren]

It's easy since they doesn't reborn to small one.

Use Ranged ops

[paper notch]

yes

3 stages

not 4.5

[halcyon flame]

Hold

[midnight summit]

Ngl every single one f5 i counted as 50/50 between s2 and s3

[paper notch]

muted past is s2 tho?

[idle raptor]

I got overwhelmed silly by it man

[errant siren]

[halcyon flame]

Oh wait I use S3 on them all

[errant siren]

Git gud.

[idle raptor]

Im looking at the github and it didnt realy exxplains it ig

[cedar ivy]

Welp

[paper notch]

😭

[halcyon flame]

Except for sometimes departing inspection

If I don’t have bodies to open I take s2

[cedar ivy]

Ed2->ed4 diff12 cleared

What an experience

330k hp spawners

[halcyon flame]

Pls understand I never don’t have bodies to throw because I draft ros

I bring s2 sometimes to unironically manipulate Necrass summons lol

[paper notch]

🥹

[idle raptor]

the Statuegeist in ed2 need to be cleared asap?

[sly harness]

no

just trash mobs

[cedar ivy]

The statuegeist is just free agent dp

[paper notch]

it spawns the talismans that fly throughout the map

[sly harness]

wait normal ed2

kill it fast

[paper notch]

it's annoying as hell ye

[sly harness]

i thought about ed2a

[idle raptor]

a?

[paper notch]

alternate version

[idle raptor]

ohh

[paper notch]

the one you get when doing ed4 relic

[rich thorn]

garden trip is high cost one ye?

[paper notch]

there's a tongbao calculator in the pins here

[rich thorn]

its dlc0

[idle raptor]

damm so i need god rng for vanguard permit

[rich thorn]

not updated

[paper notch]

oh wtf

[rich thorn]

anyways, prob high cost one

[idle raptor]

kinda dumb question, since i might have missed reading it, why are some newly deployed operators came attached wih a tailsman? is this a Statuegeist issue or a relic issue

[rich thorn]

hour effect

[idle raptor]

F

[rich thorn]

1-2-3 classes gets slapped with talismans in the face

[idle raptor]

What's the meaning of the numbers?

[rich thorn]

number of classes

[carmine token]

number of classes

[rich thorn]

lvl3 do that for 3 random classes

[idle raptor]

Man, maybe thats how my run was joever

[grave vine]

f

my entire roster get aberrationed and died to random bombings

[idle raptor]

Wait so hour effects are random?

[rich thorn]

i really have 0 ideas how to setup this now

[halcyon flame]

Defenders can never get hit with that talisman hour

Every other class can

[rich thorn]

is there dlc1 ver of calc?

[sly harness]

medics get them on lower difficulty or somthing? on d15 they can't get it

[rich thorn]

cuz im sure both right bal are low rarity

[grave vine]

double check on IS3 vertical pathing, we use key to side path right?

[midnight summit]

Now doing bosky

[halcyon flame]

Oh them too

Oops

[steel relic]

Isn’t it guard-spec-caster and sniper-supporter-vg or something

I know it’s actually just two set groups

[sly harness]

ed4 runs even without looping are so...

[steel relic]

No one can tell me middle is the better place to tank Yi btw

Actual sleeper boss

[ornate hare]

What do I pick

[rich thorn]

corpus usually better, but welp, he turns into piece of glass and harder to safely deliver his ass to f5

[sly harness]

not really, just take resources

[steel relic]

Corpus is not usually better

[sly harness]

for the boss you want a perma stall anyway

[rich thorn]

🥀

[ornate hare]

Does corpus have anything to do with his ending

[rich thorn]

welp, it debuffs him in both boss battle and normal battles

[ornate hare]

Oh

That'd be good if I would get a medic recruit (I didn't get any for the past 3 runs)

[rich thorn]

goober gonna die from fucking ballthrowers

you cant heal him

[steel relic]

Gonna die to dogs bruh

[rich thorn]

btw, can ange regen him?

[steel relic]

Yes

[ornate hare]

Passives

[sly harness]

Just draft Skadi or CE

[ornate hare]

I was thinking about perf

[sly harness]

[ornate hare]

Ion got skalt so Im getting ce then

[rich thorn]

just ignore corpus

and pick trag

[ornate hare]

I don't have trag

[sly harness]

relics slop 🥀

[rich thorn]

nymph?

[ornate hare]

Not built

[rich thorn]

damn

eh

[ornate hare]

Cus she stole my Trag pull

[rich thorn]

uh

[ornate hare]

I'm still salty

[rich thorn]

can yu or mizuki sukk him?

[ornate hare]

Yu is e2 lv1, don't have miz

[rich thorn]

cuz phase 2 is flying

[steel relic]

Yu can and then will get two tapped

Phase 2 is not flying

[ornate hare]

Isn't it low hover

[rich thorn]

but isnt he ignores stones?

[ornate hare]

Can you knock him down with stun

[steel relic]

It’s just unblockable

[sly harness]

Nymph will be fine SL7

[ornate hare]

Or is he stun immune

[rich thorn]

oh

so still can be yeet by yu s2

[ornate hare]

OK I'll see how my run goes

[sly harness]

If it is low difficulty you can just tank it ig

[rich thorn]

and after that exu2 s3

[frozen perch]

my bad i totally missed the notes what changed in IS6 , i hear something new happened or released?

[ornate hare]

I'll do the run tmr

[ornate hare]

I'm on diff 5

[rich thorn]

yep, new squads, 3 skill tree nodes, new tongbaos, ending 4

(dont forget to win run to unlock)

[frozen perch]

ah ok ty ❤️

is there any noteworthy squad?

[rich thorn]

flower

[sly harness]

3k phys damage or around 5400 to frozen units... Cuora will tank

[frozen perch]

i feel like when pram2 releases this will be so nice

[sly harness]

It is 7k d18

[ornate hare]

Maxed?

[rich thorn]

meh

main star of this show is gnossy module

with SA2 synergy

[sly harness]

Just SA S2 with fast redplyment units

[frozen perch]

gnossy? is that an operator?

[rich thorn]

gnosis

[midnight summit]

6/64/30

LIKE WTF

IDEALLY 6/64/30

[frozen perch]

ah i dont think i have him

[midnight summit]

[rich thorn]

f5 bosky spawn is random?

or there is always 1 node

[burnt lantern]

He is that good with IS mod?

[midnight summit]

LMFAO

[frozen perch]

for IS is gummy worth E2?

i have all 4 stars at E1 rn

except perfumer for some reason lol

oh and ethan

[sly harness]

What is this?

[rich thorn]

ofk

80% max fragile

[burnt lantern]

Mod3? I want to prefarm

[paper notch]

how much he uses certain skills per floor

[rich thorn]

and any kjerr op freeze enemies for 4s

[rich thorn]

thats IS mod

dont need to

[paper notch]

oh and he apprently expanded it

[burnt lantern]

Oh right.. IS mod is cheap

[rich thorn]

2-4 weeks to wait methink

[burnt lantern]

Now i need to browse kjerag op

[sly harness]

Just draft SA alter

And Steward ig

[burnt lantern]

Weird, gnosis is not considered kjerag

[sly harness]

Was Steward counted there?

I remember that people were using him for some reason

[burnt lantern]

I was looking at this page

[rich thorn]

yes, but idk

[midnight summit]

I was counting raidian skills usage from myself

[rich thorn]

why it says hidden

[midnight summit]

Gave 6/64/30 intuitively and it is 6/64/30

[rich thorn]

steward is

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-sus-gif-2558655191726498734

[errant siren]

Because it's not main one, but he counts upon that.

Yeah
This is SilverAlter event.

[rich thorn]

bad tool

doesnt counts hidden

🚬

[steel relic]

Gnosis is Karlan Trade instead of Kjerag

The wiki only accounts for main faction, not sub factions

Though the event updates Kjerag and Karlan Trade to just be the same thing anyway so the sub faction thing only matters for Steward

[rich thorn]

i mean this thing

https://puppiizsunniiz.github.io/AN-EN-Tags/index.html

[lost flicker]

awesome temporary recruit

thank you is

[earnest ridge]

Hope you're ready to POP OFF

[wide rover]

What node lets me gamble originium shards

[lost flicker]

huge 2 dp profits coming my way

[tired wyvern]

70 more levels left before I'm done with IS3 😭

[lost flicker]

Slowly but surely 🙏

The background you get from it is peak so it's worth it

[tired wyvern]

-# eternal pain and suffering

[tired wyvern]

Yea exactly

The music is also so good

[lost flicker]

IT IS

It made suffering Nervous Impairment worth it

[tired wyvern]

I did 40 levels in one day, played for so many hours straight yesterday

[lost flicker]

Are you ok

That's hellish

[tired wyvern]

IS3 is cancer
-# the faster I'm done the faster it gets over ahh shit

Like 15 runs or sm

[tired wyvern]

[lost flicker]

Hey at least it's not IS2

Sorry gut reaction

[tired wyvern]

I'm done with 5,4 and close to doin with 3.
Before I do 6, I have to complete 2.

Looking at your user name I feel like my life is gonna get worse

[tired wyvern]

-# nah it's alr. I'm scared of IS3 like u are of IS2

[lost flicker]

Dab me up

I'm half way done with 5

Saving 4 for last

Because I can't read

[tired wyvern]

dap

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

4 is the most fun after u learn the mechanics IMO

[lost flicker]

Evil fordatal or whatever they're called

And fast af enemies

Then dinosaurs???

[midnight summit]

Is3 is peak

[midnight summit]

Peak

[tired wyvern]

Yea but it's kinda annoying with the DEGENS lmao

[lost flicker]

Dinosaur jumpscare

[tired wyvern]

💀

[tired wyvern]

Easy kills dw

[lost flicker]

Oh ok I trust you

[tired wyvern]

Which difficulty u play on

[midnight summit]

I have degen sooo i just nuke them too

[lost flicker]

Oh right I did all of IS3 without ever using a wandering medic

[tired wyvern]

Hmmm 🤣

[tired wyvern]

I don't even have one 💀

[lost flicker]

Just got to whatever let me max out the leveling up rates and farmed the uhhh third ending

[tired wyvern]

For some reason ines works best for me

[midnight summit]

I never used them(except 1 anni training with NI)

[tired wyvern]

Yea same for me, then you can trust me.
If u played higher if be like nah not trust me lmao

[slim hull]

Man lacked dps to clear ed2 for the foot

What op should i borrow

[halcyon flame]

Exu alt

[midnight summit]

Uxe2

[tired wyvern]

[midnight summit]

Wtf uxe

[tired wyvern]

Uxe, the 3rd alter?!?

[lost flicker]

Have you tried using vigil for the foot

It won't work

But it's funny seeing him get killed

[midnight summit]

Sure

My lvl 1 vigil will appreciate this

[lost flicker]

You're welcome

My genius knows no bounds

[tired wyvern]

[sly harness]

Vigil was tested as a dlc2 pick to stall ed5 boss

[midnight summit]

Bruh

Everything niche is good in dlc2 atp

[lost flicker]

HUGE

MY VIGIL IS GONNA DO DAMAGE NOW

He didn't do any damage

[carmine token]

supriseed he didnt ‼️

get him raidian console

[lost flicker]

If only I got him in IS6 to truly test his damage smh

[carmine token]

s2 stall tech is real

[sharp harbor]

Whenever I do ending 2 IS6 rng hates me

Good relics but oh my goodness! The remaining run gave me only vanguard and defender recruitment tags

[lost flicker]

Lowkey this is why I haven't done any other ending in is6 lmao

Every time I wanna do it, rng hell

[sharp harbor]

Then, good recuitment tix gave but not so good relics

[midnight summit]

Just highroll

[midnight summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1273778725552390254.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[sharp harbor]

I have only cleared end2 once, please gimme good rng

Not a single sniper and specialist tix

Rng is the biggest enemy

I can't leak left side, barely getting 17+ hp in runs

[carmine token]

just get 😭😭😭

[midnight summit]

Give me more guard/def vouchers and my life is yours

[sharp harbor]

My good defender are hoshi2 and gummy only

[midnight summit]

Yes

[sharp harbor]

And the rest of run decided to keep on giving me defender voucher

[midnight summit]

Block

[lost flicker]

ok surely I can make vigil useful now

just have him lane hold instead of his wolves

[worldly laurel]

Asmr gaming

[lost flicker]

blessing to my ears

thank you

[sly harness]

What rng hell?

IS6 is almost as consistent as low end IS5

[rich thorn]

idk

[earnest ridge]

How do I kill this derp if I cannot attack them?

[rich thorn]

somehow crying thieve token turned into matrial

CONTISTENT

[quick steppe]

he just walks away after a bit

[sly harness]

He just buffs stuff

Like in IS3/IS4

Just ignore him

[midnight summit]

Cuz you literally cannot attack him

Ykyk cannot

[outer cliff]

Hes a stage hazard

[crude leaf]

is5 or is6

which is more fun

[gusty siren]

Tell him he’s broke and he’ll leave

[sly harness]

Low end IS6 is more fun. But when it comes to high end IS5 is significantly better

[crude leaf]

how good is kralter

I havent built her at all

[outer cliff]

who

[crude leaf]

I feel like im missing some hype

kroos alt

I havent built her or grayy alt

reading the is5 guide

ethan? ha, I never built him.

same with indigo

are they really that good?

[outer cliff]

Ethan has extremely strong stalling abilities for cheap

[outer cliff]

also he does true aoe and poisons enemies for hitcount

[lost flicker]

I really like krooster because there's just random stages that throw flying enemies at you (like the jetpack guys) and kroos just knocks them down with her stun chance

Ive used her in IS2, 3, and now 5

[crude leaf]

I see, what about someone like ash? or is just her hope cost is more efficient

[silver agate]

Platiwife

[lost flicker]

Idek know who that is so uhhhh

Kroos brrrrrr

[crude leaf]

I see

I got a guard voucher tho

well I guess it doesnt matter

im still low difficulty

[rich thorn]

@quick steppe

🥀

cocoon only appeared on f5 bosky, and failed to jump into shop

[earnest ridge]

Can someone help me understand why these crocs are taking zero dmg?

[crude leaf]

they are like duelists

if they are blocked

[rich thorn]

because they are blocked

[crude leaf]

then they have increased damage resistance

[earnest ridge]

Soooo. I can't remove these blocks.

Am I just stuck?

[crude leaf]

imagine no typhon 💔

nah im just kidding

what is a bizaarre fragment though?

is this one?

[errant siren]

Remember that you go into Bosky, you get a specific relic

[outer cliff]

Expensive and less consistent

[crude leaf]

I dont know

[errant siren]

Like all units suffers -ATK or sum?

[crude leaf]

I havent touched is so this is about my first time

[sly harness]

Only really used in IS5

[rich thorn]

also

[crude leaf]

also my first day in this channel lmao

[rich thorn]

fucking 1 time toss tokens

[errant siren]

Bruh

[crude leaf]

despite being in this server for like 3 years

[rich thorn]

slopped my coinbox like 4 times

[crude leaf]

anyways wsp

[rich thorn]

and there was no tongbao for trade

[errant siren]

Then don't think too much.

[rich thorn]

[crude leaf]

im still early stages but might as well get into the flow

is aak good? since stun util right?

[errant siren]

No.

[crude leaf]

is5 guide really likes to emphasize stun util

[errant siren]

You wanna stun op? KroosAlter right here.

[earnest ridge]

I pulled them through the blocks with Trag's cat! vicotrrrry

[crude leaf]

should I use my plans early

to take as many stages

as possible?

[sly harness]

Either retreat Trag or place the cat on Ethan tile

[crude leaf]

you know, to level up faster

[errant siren]

Probably.

[earnest ridge]

yeah I put cat on ethan's tile

[errant siren]

Also save them for leveling nodes

Such as Cannot Shop, Safe Haven, False to truth.

[crude leaf]

ok last question for now, which one is usually good for sniper/medic squads?

[outer cliff]

Specialist is the most contested voucher

[crude leaf]

I dont have wis

[errant siren]

Always Lamp.

[crude leaf]

always?

[sly harness]

Leveling nodes beyond permanent upgrades is 99% times fake

[errant siren]

ALWAYS.

[sly harness]

For easy wins yes

[outer cliff]

Sniper tends to have few competition

[errant siren]

You want top King's right here.

[crude leaf]

dude...

I should have refreshed 😭 wdym 2 sniper vouchers but no hope

[errant siren]

[crude leaf]

and the 5* is fucking provence

[sly harness]

Aren't Greyy and Kroos free

[crude leaf]

😭

[sly harness]

May is good too

[crude leaf]

I havent built them

[errant siren]

3 Hope.

[sly harness]

But Sniper/Medic

[errant siren]

1

[sly harness]

3 Hope on high diffs (I think)

[crude leaf]

im low diff rn

[errant siren]

Oh rly

[crude leaf]

since I havent touched is

I actually never touched RA

[sly harness]

In IS5 class squad is -2 Hope

[crude leaf]

except that one time

anyways with lamp

should I refresh nodes I dont like a lot?

[errant siren]

The secret is

You should make Thought backpack go Yellow

Which force you to lose BaseHP

Which once again

The player has exact 1 HP part.

[crude leaf]

OH

[errant siren]

What they do, you ask?

[crude leaf]

so

have 1 hp and every wish fulfilled

is basically free?

[errant siren]

Yes

You pick Kings

[crude leaf]

damn bro, okay bye life.

[errant siren]

And became the strongest thing on the planet

Because everyone dies from few shots

And you shoot like a minigun.

https://tenor.com/view/cobra-war-thunder-helicopter-vietnam-vulcan-gif-26817519

That's how you win every IS5 run.

Eaaaaasily.

[crude leaf]

so its a glass cannon build

[errant siren]

And that's what makes Lamp so special.

[arctic panther]

you still have objective shield

[errant siren]

BaseShields doesn't ruin this buff, yet they count upon your health during battles.

[crude leaf]

is it different from is3 where

9+ hp = 1 shield

per round

[errant siren]

So you can still let enemies enter bluebox.

Unfortunately, Kings sucks in previous ISes.

[crude leaf]

I see

I wonder why

[errant siren]

Since they punish you for bad performance.

[sly harness]

You combine Inspirers in False to Truth to get shields

[crude leaf]

oh I was just making a lore reference

since is5 is about sarkaz and thats the whole babel shit

[tiny cosmos]

Real talk tho there’s no way that heli is hitting anything trying to compensate for all the push back force from having a mini gun mounted on one wing firing (I know nothing about helicopters btw )

[crude leaf]

when should I refresh nodes for wish fulfilled though?

[lost flicker]

Wait does IS having hidden medals

Cause I got a medal after this run despite having all of them

ohhh I trimmed the medal nvm

[silk hull]

guys this stage is curse i disconnect twice at the same stage

[lost flicker]

I forgot trimmed medals exist

[silk hull]

and i cant reconnect back

[lost flicker]

cooked run

[silk hull]

twice

[sly harness]

Next time you see it skilful dodge it with end of times

[silk hull]

am i the only one with this issue ?

or its known?

[gusty siren]

That’s one thing that pisses me off about IS like why is my run automatically ended if I have bad connection or game crash

[midnight summit]

Wifi issues

[silk hull]

[crude leaf]

huh.. 2 cats vs 1 cat

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1434332916430672033/Pramanix_is_Here.gif

[crude leaf]

that was

weird

I had to fight kal'tsit twice

[lost flicker]

You mean in that face off?

[crude leaf]

yeah

and then

boss

right after

[lost flicker]

Ah ok

[narrow cosmos]

How does ending 4 of Sui work? I assume you buy the debuff item In the Trade node, but what's the fight itself like?

[crude leaf]

So I fought kal twice.. with kal.

[calm path]

Get the item, go to a Scout after

The fight is basically 2 giant stat sticks

[narrow cosmos]

No bullshit mechanics?

[calm path]

Kinda a nothing burger

[crude leaf]

When do I rob mr nothing?

[narrow cosmos]

Like ending 2 murdering the whole map, Or ending 3 only letting you bring half the team?

[calm path]

It has a similar gimmick to IS5 ED4 where you need to plan ahead a select few ops you wanna bring into the fight, cause that's you're gonna get

So even fewer than ED4

[narrow cosmos]

Also, Are the 2 stat sticks ludicrously high on Def and/or Res

[calm path]

HP and Damage res

For 2 of them respectively

[narrow cosmos]

Ah that's ok. Raw damage spam & some True damage respectively

[arctic panther]

why would you rob mr nothing

[earnest shuttle]

iirc the recent dlc changed the f1 rob strat

[halcyon flame]

f3 rob now

[steel relic]

never beating the allegations

[outer cliff]

What in the dlc made it change

[rich thorn]

guarantee relics in shop

[outer cliff]

huh?

[sharp harbor]

Felt good having a good rng in runs

Cleared IS6 ending 2 twice now

Need 3 so I can proceed with S1-3M3

[crude leaf]

Too

Too many thoughts

Is this how adhd feels

[lost flicker]

AHHHHHHHH MY RUN

[crude leaf]

[lost flicker]

yes exactly

immense mental toil

[prime mountain]

This is why we dont use gpg

embrace mumuplayer

[lost flicker]

mumuplayer wouldnt even let me install it lmao

idk why

[prime mountain]

Lmao what

[crude leaf]

LOL

[prime mountain]

Thats the first I hear of that

[lost flicker]

Yeah I couldnt find anything about it

Game just wouldn't install

I tried the other emulator as well but it stuttered more than gpg

So

who knows

[crude leaf]

Um

[prime mountain]

Wdym game? arknights wouldnt install?

[crude leaf]

150 atk or 200% max hp

[prime mountain]

bro finds out how lamp works: more at 11

[crude leaf]

ok but which one

I see 2 king's wtv

[lost flicker]

all of them

scroll down

[crude leaf]

OH RIGHT

[prime mountain]

You're pre level 6

[crude leaf]

I HAVE LIKE 10 PLANS

[prime mountain]

vessel would do nothing

You will gain 1 max life point soon

[lost flicker]

oh true

[crude leaf]

Im already at 1 max life

I got it early

[ashen cradle]

Best between the three?

[prime mountain]

You will gain one more max life points on your next level up

[quick steppe]

flask

[prime mountain]

cant avoid it

[crude leaf]

So like

[lost flicker]

Yeah after installing on mumu, the install wouldn't work properly and it just gave up

[crude leaf]

Yeah, right? Yeahhh

[prime mountain]

If it just closed the game while downloading, just open it again

it did that for me a few times

[crude leaf]

All ov it?

[prime mountain]

Like just keep opening it, download a bit, it crashes, re-open it

works eventually

[ashen cradle]

.

[lost flicker]

I will give it another go when I'm not feeling lazy

[prime mountain]

Flask if you havent revealed much already

opens up bosky a ton and helps to get alt endings

[lost flicker]

oh wait my run just died anyway, might as well give it a shot

[outer cliff]

Two hope and revealing tiles is always nice

[crude leaf]

Whats a must have specialist

For is5

[lost flicker]

Ethan

Fast redeploys are also really nice for ending 3

[crude leaf]

Er I havent built ethan

[crude leaf]

Ig im just spamming ed 1

For the

[lost flicker]

do it 🤩

[prime mountain]

Do it now, he's also pretty good in is6

[crude leaf]

Point thingy thing

[outer cliff]

Dread it. Run from it. Ethan is the answer all the same.

[crude leaf]

What floor do you guys usually

Rob mr nothing

[lost flicker]

Just borrow an ethan

It's free anyway in is5

[crude leaf]

Ethan

[crude leaf]

Oh im mid run

I got specialist

[lost flicker]

Ah

[crude leaf]

Got like 16 hope

[lost flicker]

Just take a fast redeploy then lol

[crude leaf]

...ascalon :)?

[lost flicker]

Ascalaon is also really nice

[crude leaf]

Damn

[lost flicker]

YEAHHHH

[crude leaf]

Ok cool

Ass cologne

[lost flicker]

Uh ascalon S1 will mow down either side for final boss

[crude leaf]

Ed 1?

[lost flicker]

I can put my almost maxed out ethan on my friends if you need one

[crude leaf]

I have like

Most of the important specialists

[lost flicker]

oh damn you're stacked

[crude leaf]

I still never touched is

Cause of big skill issue

RA? No progress at all

SSS? Damn whats that?

[lost flicker]

my 3 month old account lacking in so many good units lmao

[outer cliff]

SSS is so easy now tho

[crude leaf]

I have units but not like

IS units

[outer cliff]

they nerfed it a few times

[lost flicker]

Ok the final boss takes more damage when he doesn't have his orbs out, so having someone to bait the orbs for your dps is really nice

[prime mountain]

Yeah its legit too easy its actually insanely boring now

[lost flicker]

Ascalon can do that with her 65 dodge

Texas and Kirin won't be useful in ed1 because boss locks off your redeploys until he dies

[outer cliff]

RA is understandable, the game goes out of its way to be uninformative and hide things

[crude leaf]

Is this cooked? I built shit I liked but indigo? Grayy alt? Kroos alt? Hell naw

Not even may is built

💀

[faint rampart]

i see modless mly

[lost flicker]

no 4* life because you never did IS is really funny

[outer cliff]

No mod ulp

[steel relic]

Highmore s2 better be m3

[crude leaf]

We dont talk about it

[crude leaf]

YOU BET

[steel relic]

unfathomably based

[prime mountain]

bro just said he doesnt play sss

this is the result

[faint rampart]

🥀

[lost flicker]

ok actually

what is sss

[outer cliff]

Stationary security something

[prime mountain]

Shitty gamemode that gives module blocks and stuff

[outer cliff]

It gives LMD so i dont complain too much

[lost flicker]

holy shit mode I dont remember seeing

damn

nah I aint doing that

I've got 400 sticks and 70 blocks

Which may not be a lot

[craggy shadow]

i think i like IS4

[lost flicker]

but I have no LMD anyway

[outer cliff]

Only reason i do it is missions

$$$$

im so damn broke all the time

[lost flicker]

lmd is a myth made up by the ursus government

[rich thorn]

[lost flicker]

yooo

-44

this screenshot is peak

[rich thorn]

imagine that

while 800 ignots and iron stove

cuz its not fucking rolled

[narrow cosmos]

Attack speed go brrrr

[crude leaf]

E2 leizhi or

Kroos and grayy

[lost flicker]

oh ok ggs

[rich thorn]

oooooo

so thats why f6 easier

can buy 2 candle for 30 ignots in tavern

PERPETUAL MACHINE START

[lost flicker]

I haven't gotten that set up to work once

Too unlucky on the cocoon coin flips :(

[rich thorn]

hey

how you can see

i didnt pulled it till f6

f5 was a mess with -44

and no sui leg

🥀

[lost flicker]

OH I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU WERE THE SAME PERSON

lmao

I respect it coming together at f6 lmao

[rich thorn]

im ashamed what i failed to grab sui leg

)

[faint rampart]

assuming caster leizi, why e2 her

if its guard then sure

[outer cliff]

Im too dumb to understand the is6 infinite even with a guide and understanding the theory

[lost flicker]

gambling

I think

doesn't need to be anything else frfr

[outer cliff]

Tangbao collecting step confuses me

[rich thorn]

i can explain

ask

cuz i was dumb and searching and asking other people

[outer cliff]

Like i understand u wanna swap on the plan node to try to get specific ones

But how do u afford the LP or acquire tang bao of the same tier to attempt that

[sly harness]

What if we just don't loop

[outer cliff]

I want to finish filling relic bestiary

[rich thorn]

all should try that at least once

that dopamine

[rich thorn]

for lp you add this one

and retoss

and if you dont sacc cocoon, you setup yourself into this 6

because in trading circle you dont want to downgrade your tongbaos

if this 6 are in your coffin, you block downgrading path

[lost flicker]

I think I'm actually more confused about it now than I was before

[rich thorn]

after that, you reroll at plan till sacc bulwark into cocoon

[faint rampart]

just forget about it

[faint rampart]

dont loop😇 👍

[outer cliff]

Trading tangbaos isnt entirely random, there’s a drop table

[rich thorn]

but i still have 0 ideas how the fuck duck coin turned into matrial

like what the fuck

[nocturne cape]

I wrote an exchange simulator during dlc0:

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/overview/tongbao-exchange-calculator/

Ill update it soon

[rich thorn]

oh yes, it can

[outer cliff]

Waiting for update 3:

[rich thorn]

somehow

12 into 4

looks like another reason not to go into bulwark ver of coffin

[nocturne cape]

I think the main thing to note for dlc1 is the bosky refresh tongbao and the shop refresh tongbao

Both are downgrades from 12 to 8

Thats about it honestly

But yeah ill prob look to update it within the week

[gleaming jewel]

how much of a pain is "full" (with "Reality of The End") is5 ending 5 on lower difficulties. still major pain or meaningfully easier? the list of enemies in the last stage alone makes me kinda hesitant to even try

[rich thorn]

@nocturne cape so, in that scheme, duck is at same place as stove?

[nocturne cape]

Progression guide also needs work

Yes

[rich thorn]

damn

not even shop tongbao tier

[nocturne cape]

Theyre the same tier and can be traded into the other

[rich thorn]

on lower easier

just because you can wipe annoying casters faster

tactics are same tho

[woven wagon]

So how does is6 ed4 boss work? I kinda brute forced the stage so I had no idea what the intended solution was

[rich thorn]

🙏

[woven wagon]

Leaked the boss and everything

[nocturne cape]

The stage is quite simple, 2 bosses, the smaller boss will loop in circles on the right side and eventually make his way to the left side

[lost flicker]

who in the world

[nocturne cape]

You need a block 4 to stop it

[lost flicker]

Can I just wisadel this guy lmao

[nocturne cape]

As long as it is moving it has 90% dr

Alternatively you can use trag

[woven wagon]

That explains why I couldn’t kill it

Should have brought gladiia s3 for bind

[rich thorn]

what about info of scout spawn?

cuz what i saw here, f4 is really random and f5 not exists

[nocturne cape]

Not sure if someone actually collected enough data for scouts

Usually you take it on F3

The earlier the better

But f2 f3 f4 are all reasonable

[arctic panther]

that one guy from reedalter event

[ashen cradle]

Encounter or Wish Fulfilled for IS6 Floor 1?

[prime mountain]

Encounter and just pray for another fight surely

[rich thorn]

yyep

done

now can finish the run and play normally

[prime mountain]

Hi this is your inner ear kawaii neko telling you to pwease finish your investment 😿

[rich thorn]

Sorry neko, we are already robbing

ok, who is the bull?

xD

[quick steppe]

for future reference its easier and more efficient to set up with just bulwark

and trade amongst the 8 rarity

(we need a new name because the way in costs `12 but is in this rarity)

bulwark/long road/study/testee/prevention

[rich thorn]

yeah, but still need to fish for cocoon first

🥀

[quick steppe]

oh ya do that

but should be easy

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-choso-choso-crying-jujutsu-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-choso-gif-13355607885186897493

[quick steppe]

if you block the downgrade ones there's actually not a lot of super rare tongbao

so once you get your first it's smooth sailing from there

doable in about 20 lp

[rich thorn]

man

i literally -44

on yi

there still alot of rng

[lost flicker]

What a run holy moly

[rich thorn]

like getting 6 downgraded tongbaos

[lost flicker]

I have a little bit of attack boost I guess. Some HP too

[rich thorn]

or downgrading what you already got

expecially martial and trades flowers

what either failed bulwark/stove

or natural random

and the fact what it could be performed f4-f6

supp squad prob easier, but takes alot of resets for ling node fishing

[rugged blaze]

What is a 'Decision' node (in Sui consciousness)?
I haven't played since the update and don't recognize it, is it new?

[rich thorn]

ending 2 relic

[rugged blaze]

Oh, they changed it from encounter? Alright thanks 👍

[rich thorn]

now it has visual difference instead of same as legend node

yes

[topaz gazelle]

What's gonna be faster for speedrunning d12 ed4 for is5? Stacking hp or going for kill?

When I speedrun the first 3 endings most of the time I was limited by vouchers, so idk if D12 ed4 is doable with low op counts

[prime mountain]

Its doable sure but you need to know what you're doing

[topaz gazelle]

I wanted to try speedrun with shield stack, but I learnt that to shield stack you need to do quite a lot of combat

[eternal wadi]

what ops count as yanese 😭

do those born in yan count?

honestly idk who those im talking about

[rich thorn]

not only

cuz exu2 counts as yan too

[eternal wadi]

i think she counts cuz penguin logistics

[glossy parcel]

RCTA typa shit

[eternal wadi]

does lavalt count cuz the alter based in yan and sui storyline

blaze2 and krooster too

[eternal wadi]

wow i got no caster

[rich thorn]

imagine fail the run cuz google play games desided to close itself on f5 boss and say - update your nvidia drivers for more stable work

[arctic panther]

imagine playing on mobile and not having to deal with crashes

[rich thorn]

imagine playing on pc and having 0 crashes

🥹

[arctic panther]

physically impossible

(before official pc port)

[rich thorn]

yes, i can only imagine that

[eternal wadi]

do they still not have pc client??

[arctic panther]

(hopefully)

[arctic panther]

cn does

[rich thorn]

cn has, and we already have prepared steam link

not active ofk

even weirder, but you can bind from website

[eternal wadi]

how to use ros in is

i dont really see a point in her is mod

[quick steppe]

you could play snipermed in is5( 🥱 )

or shop ingots in is5 ( 🥱 )

[eternal wadi]

why make her count as caster and spam pillars thingy

[quick steppe]

stall to break spines

farm with hand of rumble

[faint rampart]

https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/sniper-med-rosmontis/

[gray gull]

Bc those pillar are tanky af

[eternal wadi]

do i need to send more ops through scout node for ed4?

idk how many candles needed in the f6 bosky

[quick steppe]

no you get 12 doubts

+1 from the scout is a squad of 13